User talk:Old Entity Valkyrie 2

It's good to have a nice clean user talk page for EV2. If the old user page is ever needed for reference, it ended up at User_talk:Entity_Valkyrie_1. Welcome back, and good luck! Dvgrn (talk) 16:26, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Output orientation T

I'm still confused about what the "Turned" option for conduits is actually supposed to mean. I skimmed over this tiki bar discussion from last year, but I still don't understand why for example PT38P doesn't use the more specific "L" instead of "T". Ian07 (talk) 02:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I think I understand this now; it doesn't really matter which way it's turned because with symmetric inputs you can just flip the conduit, and according to Kazyan on Discord this is in fact well-established terminology. Ian07 (talk) 02:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

"L" doesn't make anything more specific, since you can flip the conduit without changing either the location or the orientation of the first pi, and it all of a sudden becomes "PR38P" instead of "PL38P". The T is only used for input Pi or other symmetrical input.

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The two conduits on the left are two Tanner's P46s, just mirror images. However, this is what happens if we try to name the conduits without the usage of T:

• The first oscillator consists of a PL38P and PR8P
• The second oscillator consists of a PR38P and PL8P

Two names had been given to the same conduit (marked in bold and italic respectively), and there is no need, so T is the standard. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 06:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Tempalte:Conduit bug

There is a bug in Template:Conduit. The recovery box is not stable in Fx77 and probably lots of other pages.