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For the old user talk, please see User talk:Old Entity Valkyrie 2

Entity Valkyrie is back on the LifeWiki! For the Terms and Conditions under which this change was made, please see this forum posting. Dvgrn (talk) 21:32, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

"Conflict" pages

I've also made several "Conflict" pages dedicated to some editing conflicts I've made in the past. I currently have three: Bx222 eater removal conflict, Rich's P16 conflict, and Dependent conduit conflict.

These conflict pages contain only an RLE describing what the conflict was. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


Do you know why LifeViewer now shows the GUI buttons? Can the default be without the GUI? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Entity Valkyrie 2 (talkcontribs) 9:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Probably just a bug. Odds are good that it will be patched in the next build.
Next time around, if you report this kind of change in behavior directly to Chris Rowett at the main Pattern Viewer thread, he might see it sooner than if you start a whole new thread for one bug report. Also, don't forget the four tildes to sign your questions. Without an identifier, that line could just as well be someone else writing to ask you that question. Dvgrn (talk) 14:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
EDIT: This has been fixed. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 20:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


Excuse me, can you add the P5 pipsquirter information ontothe pipsquirter page? Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 04:53, 11 November 2019 (UTC) Excuse me, can you also specify what 28P7.4 is? It is mentioned in the site pre-pulsar shuttle 28. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 08:10, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, can you please change the page User:Entity Valkyrie 2/Rule:StateInvestigator to a true Rule: page? This is so that I can LifeView this rule on User:Entity Valkyrie 2/StateInvestigator. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

For the page Spark, can you change the definition of "fountain" to "no cells one row behind" and add "superfountain" to mean "no cells two rows behind"? I noticed this because the fountain itself has cells 2 rows behind. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 10:12, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


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Request for red link removal

Hi there, I noticed that there are a few red links in your pages, for instance the "LOM" (which should be LoM) and "heisenburps" (heisenburps) in User:Entity Valkyrie 2/Period-165 MWSS gun. Would you like to permit me to edit your pages, cleaning them up so that they point to the correct site? GUYTU6J (talk) 10:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

That page is abandoned, but you can fix up red links in all pages that are not in either the EV1 section or in the StateInvestigator section.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Entity Valkyrie 2 (talkcontribs)

Thanks, now the red links like "34p14 shuttle" (the P is uppercase), "GoldTiger997" (the t is lowercase) and "Callahan's G-to-H" (no 's) have been removed. GUYTU6J (talk) 09:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Sudden burst of main-namespace editing in the last week

Hello! I've temporarily unchecked the trusted flag for your account, because you seem to have suddenly gone back to your old habit of making dozens of edits all over the LifeWiki very quickly. You haven't talked to anyone about getting permission to edit outside of your User space, have you? Seems like that should have been a requirement before you embark on any new big editing projects.

Your first venture outside your User space was the Bandersnatch article. You did a really good job on that -- there was nothing that needed fixing there at all, which is probably more than I can say about the average article that I create. My only worry was that you still didn't seem to understand or remember the general rule that discoverers don't document their own discoveries. Someone else would have created that article if you hadn't, with no need to worry about you breaking that important rule.

I just did a quick review and found a typo or two in your new edits, and a couple of edits that don't seem to be improvements (but I could be wrong).

I'll look through all your recent edits and post a full list here of everything I had to repair. The length of that list is part of what will determine whether it seems safe to turn the trusted flag back on again for you. I'll check with other moderators first, though, so this process is going to take a while. You still seem to be more likely than any other active LifeWiki editor to damage existing articles in ways that most other editors don't agree with.

For example, one of your edits (to Bx222) re-creates a change to the article that was reverted by Ian07. Regardless of who was right or wrong, you should pretty much never do things like that without having a full discussion with the other editor first. A series of reverts and re-edits is called an "edit war", and they're really really worth avoiding at all costs.

So... for now I'm avoiding edit wars by unchecking your trusted flag, but if you have other ideas that you think would work better, please let me know -- by private message on the forums, let's say. Thanks! Dvgrn (talk) 12:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, the promise to stick with User namespace edits for now has been renewed, so the trusted flag is back on. Here are my notes from cleanup work so far:
Please refer to me as Entity Valkyrie on the wiki, and Entity Valkyrie 2 on the forums.
Honestly this is just too much to expect people to remember -- it's confusing, and ultimately seems like a big waste of everyone's time. Even your own user page isn't consistent about this.
I think it still isn't at all clear to anyone why you couldn't just have kept your original "Entity Valkyrie" ID, and stopped worrying so much about this artificial and apparently pointless "Entity Valkyrie" / "Entity Valkyrie 2" distinction.
1) Highway robber:
A parenthetical expression was added to the article, but the closing parenthesis was left out.
I reverted the changes to the RLE. Two eaters were removed from the pattern, allowing three outputs instead of one. It's not clear why that's an improvement. The extra two output gliders can't be used easily for most purposes, because they're 17 lanes or less away from other glider lanes, and you need 18 lanes to split apart two parallel glider streams using Snarks. So in practice, people copying out the RLE will probably want to put those eaters back, or at least know where they would normally go. Removing them reduces the amount of information available, so it amounts to damage to the article. Now that they're back in the pattern, it's really easy for anyone to delete them if they actually want the extra gliders.
Also, several extra gliders were added to the RLE. The extra gliders weren't described in the article text, and they don't add any useful information to the pattern -- none of them are on the minimum-clearance lane for the highway robber, or any other significant lane. Here again, people copying the highway-robber pattern for use in a larger construction would always have to delete these gliders -- so why put them into the reference pattern in the first place? They could go in an extra embedded LifeViewer pattern in the text somewhere, but it's better to have just one standard version in the infobox.
2) Bx222: I reverted these edits. Definitely not a good idea to make this edit without discussion, since a previous edit along these exact same lines had already been reverted. Discussion could happen on an article's talk page, but for this kind of change -- something that could be a policy change that applies to lots and lots of LifeWiki articles -- a better place would be a new topic on the Tiki Bar. It's definitely okay to start this kind of discussion or ask questions there.
Removing the eater5 variant loses important information. The Bx222 can only be connected easily to later conduits, e.g., Fx77, if you know exactly where to place an eater5 variant. Standard eater5s wouldn't fit very well.
So here again, if someone is copying this pattern for use in a circuit, it's very easy for them to delete the eater5 variant in the rare situations where it isn't wanted. It isn't at all easy to draw in a working variant eater5 or welded 7x9 eater, once you've removed it to theoretically "make the conduit Spartan". The Bx222 is *not* functionally Spartan, because there are hardly any good ways to connect to it when the eater5 variant is missing. (Are there any known Spartan continuations at all?)
It might make some sense to add an embedded LifeViewer showing the different variants, but it makes no sense at all to simply destroy the information about the eater5, without leaving any easy clues in the article about how to get it back.
3) H-to-G0:
You added a third entry in the top row, and this sentence:
A integral with tub in the diagram means that this still life can be removed for an extra glider.
It should be "An integral with tub", but that's a silly trivial detail, not really a problem at all. Another detail you didn't notice is that when you added the third H-to-G0, there was a "two" in the previous sentence that should have been changed to "three". It would be nice if you could plan and review carefully enough so that you notice when your changes to a pattern mean that the description has to change. But again, everybody makes mistakes like this all the time, and other editors fix them, and nobody thinks all that much about it.
The addition of the integral-with-tail markers is actually the only troublesome change. This is a total judgment call on my part, but I went ahead and removed the integral-with-tub markers.
They would be kind of a good idea in some contexts, but in the H-to-G0 pattern and article they ultimately just add clutter and make the H-to-G0 topic harder to understand. There are three problems with the integral-with-tail markers:
* They highlight a detail that's ultimately irrelevant to the function of the H-to-G0,
* they require extra editing by people copying out the pattern to use an H-to-G0, and
* they're not used anywhere else on the LifeWiki, so to make things consistent we'd have to commit to a huge amount of editing of other conduit pages, for no clear benefit. If you're looking for extra glider outputs, it's just plain not that difficult to run the pattern and see which eaters are suppressing gliders. But usually when you want an H-to-G0, you want it because it's a H-to-G0, not because it's an H-to-G0-with-a-random-extra-glider-going-some-other-way.
... That's as far as I've gotten for now. Long way to go yet, but hopefully this is a start at explaining my point of view on these recent edits. Questions and comments are welcome. Dvgrn (talk) 11:57, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Can't the bandersnatch be used to separate the gliders in the highway robber? Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 12:32, 15 June 2020 (UTC)