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:: My original comment wasn't too clear, but I was more referring to mutually-stabilizing ark "methuselahs" that you get by starting two of them really far away but aimed towards each other so that they will collide and stabilize after something like a million generations (as long as you want, really). Though they can start with very few cells and last for arbitrarily-long, their bounding box is of course ridiculously huge and they're not particularly interesting, so people generally ignore them when talking about methuselahs. [[User:Nathaniel|Nathaniel]] 10:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | :: My original comment wasn't too clear, but I was more referring to mutually-stabilizing ark "methuselahs" that you get by starting two of them really far away but aimed towards each other so that they will collide and stabilize after something like a million generations (as long as you want, really). Though they can start with very few cells and last for arbitrarily-long, their bounding box is of course ridiculously huge and they're not particularly interesting, so people generally ignore them when talking about methuselahs. [[User:Nathaniel|Nathaniel]] 10:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Two RLE's of extremely long lived methuselahs I found in Golly. | |||
# ark1 -- 16 cells, stabilizes at 736692 gens, found by Nick Gotts. | |||
x = 32, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 | |||
27bo$28bo$29bo$28bo$27bo$29b3o20$oo$bbo$bbo$3b4o! | |||
# ark2 -- 19 cells, stabilizes at 8120878 gens, found by Nick Gotts. | |||
x = 53, y = 44, rule = B3/S23 | |||
50b3o28$12bo$12bo$13boo$15bo$15bo$15bo$15bo6$oo$bbo$bbo$3b4o! | |||
Going to bed soon. | |||
-wwei23 12:10AM 9/19 2015 | |||
==Higg== | ==Higg== | ||
I've reverted the edit about the [[higg]] methuselah, because it isn't notable. It surely isn't newly discovered as computer searches have enumerated all patterns with less than 20 or so cells within small (<= 6x6 or so) bounding boxes. [[User:Nathaniel|Nathaniel]] 04:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | I've reverted the edit about the [[higg]] methuselah, because it isn't notable. It surely isn't newly discovered as computer searches have enumerated all patterns with less than 20 or so cells within small (<= 6x6 or so) bounding boxes. [[User:Nathaniel|Nathaniel]] 04:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 04:11, 19 September 2015
Arks
I should add a note somewhere about arks and why they often aren't considered methuselahs even though they take a LONG time to stabilize. I'll do that after I add the ark article. Nathaniel 16:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't know if this is known, but arks are puffers, and puffers are not considered methuselahs, since they don't stabilize in the normal sense. FractalFusion 06:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- My original comment wasn't too clear, but I was more referring to mutually-stabilizing ark "methuselahs" that you get by starting two of them really far away but aimed towards each other so that they will collide and stabilize after something like a million generations (as long as you want, really). Though they can start with very few cells and last for arbitrarily-long, their bounding box is of course ridiculously huge and they're not particularly interesting, so people generally ignore them when talking about methuselahs. Nathaniel 10:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Two RLE's of extremely long lived methuselahs I found in Golly.
- ark1 -- 16 cells, stabilizes at 736692 gens, found by Nick Gotts.
x = 32, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 27bo$28bo$29bo$28bo$27bo$29b3o20$oo$bbo$bbo$3b4o!
- ark2 -- 19 cells, stabilizes at 8120878 gens, found by Nick Gotts.
x = 53, y = 44, rule = B3/S23 50b3o28$12bo$12bo$13boo$15bo$15bo$15bo$15bo6$oo$bbo$bbo$3b4o!
Going to bed soon. -wwei23 12:10AM 9/19 2015
Higg
I've reverted the edit about the higg methuselah, because it isn't notable. It surely isn't newly discovered as computer searches have enumerated all patterns with less than 20 or so cells within small (<= 6x6 or so) bounding boxes. Nathaniel 04:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)