User talk:Old Entity Valkyrie 2

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It's good to have a nice clean user talk page for EV2. If the old user page is ever needed for reference, it ended up at User_talk:Entity_Valkyrie_1. Welcome back, and good luck! Dvgrn (talk) 16:26, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Output orientation T

I'm still confused about what the "Turned" option for conduits is actually supposed to mean. I skimmed over this tiki bar discussion from last year, but I still don't understand why for example PT38P doesn't use the more specific "L" instead of "T". Ian07 (talk) 02:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I think I understand this now; it doesn't really matter which way it's turned because with symmetric inputs you can just flip the conduit, and according to Kazyan on Discord this is in fact well-established terminology. Ian07 (talk) 02:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
"L" doesn't make anything more specific, since you can flip the conduit without changing either the location or the orientation of the first pi, and it all of a sudden becomes "PR38P" instead of "PL38P". The T is only used for input Pi or other symmetrical input.
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RLE: here Plaintext: here

The two conduits on the left are two Tanner's p46s, just mirror images. However, this is what happens if we try to name the conduits without the usage of T:

  • The first oscillator consists of a PL38P and PR8P
  • The second oscillator consists of a PR38P and PL8P

Two names had been given to the same conduit (marked in bold and italic respectively), and there is no need, so T is the standard. Entity Valkyrie 2 (talk) 06:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)



Template:Conduit bug

There is a bug in Template:Conduit. The recovery box is not stable in Fx77 and probably lots of other pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Entity Valkyrie 2 (talkcontribs)

Unexplained removal of objects in RLEs

I noticed that in these two edits: [1] [2] you removed some objects from the respective RLEs which as far as I can tell are useful for the article (e.g. the twit eater in Bx222). I know this has probably already been asked of you several times, but please get in the habit of using the edit summary more often when you make potentially controversial changes like this, to explain your justification for removing these things. Especially in the case of editing RLEs, where it's hard to tell what's actually changed just by looking at it, so you need to open both the previous and current versions in Golly to find out. Ian07 (talk) 15:11, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

P.S. I finally found the stray < symbol in the conduit infobox template. However, I tried to fix the conduit info not appearing for edge shooters (Fx119 inserter) but failed to do so. Ian07 (talk) 15:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
The "torus" edit was to fix a bug that the pattern is 2 steps away from the top, and directly sticking to the bottom. I fixed this by changing the size of that pattern from 100x100 to 98x98. The problem was hard to notice.

Bx222 edit issue

I based off the "eater removal" off F171, where an eater was removed over 1 year ago with the logic "the eater is not mandatory". Which of the two following is correct?

1. The eater should be left out the infobox, and the text should say when an eater is needed. 2. The eater should be in the infobox, and the text should say when an eater can be left out.