Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » November 24th, 2019, 2:16 pm

Known?

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o3bo3b2o$obob2o2bobo$bo7bo2$4b3o2$3bo3bo$3bo3bo2$3bo3bo$2bob3obo$2bo
5bo$b2obobob2o$3bob2o2bo$3bo3bo$2b2o3b2o!

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x = 19, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18bo$16b2o$17b2o$obo$b2o$bo6$3b2o3bo3b2o$3bobob2o2bobo$4bo7bo2$7b3o2$
6bo3bo$6bo3bo2$6bo3bo$5bob3obo$5bo5bo$4b2obobob2o$6bob2o2bo$6bo3bo$5b
2o3b2o!
My favourite oscillator of all time

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
7bo2$3b2o5b2o$b2o4bo4b2o$5b2ob2o$bobo7bobo$bo2bobobobo2bo$5obobob5o$o
4bo3bo4bo$b3obobobob3o$3bob2obo2bo$8bobo$8b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm

The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by A for awesome » November 24th, 2019, 3:40 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
Amazing! No corollary hasslers that I can find this time, although there were some close-ish calls, like these two:

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x = 67, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
16b2o33b2o$16bo34bo$17bo34bo$14b4o31b4o$5b2o7bo25b2o7bo$5bo11b3o20bo
11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o13b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o7bo4b2obo2bo9bo2bob2o7b
o4b2obo2bo$2obo8b3o3b2o2bob2o9b2obo8b3o3b2o2bob2o$3bo8bo4b2o3bo15bo8bo
4b2o3bo$3b2o7bo5bo2b2o15b2o7bo5bo2b2o$13bo3bo30bo3bo$14b3o32b3o2$9b2o
4b3o26b2o4bo$9b2o33b2o3bobo$13bo5bo29bobo$13bo5bo30bo$13bo5bo2$15b3o
33bo$50bobo$50bobo3b2o$51bo4b2o2$50b3o$49bo3bo$44b2o2bo5bo7b2o$44bo3b
2o4bo8bo$41b2obo2b2o3b3o8bob2o$41bo2bob2o4bo7b2obo2bo$43b2obo2bo11bob
2o$47b3o11bo$52bo7b2o$49b4o$49bo$50bo$49b2o!
The other possibility is supporting a single engine with p23 glider streams:

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x = 66, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
3b2o25bo$2bobo25b2o$3bo24bob3o11b2o$32b2o10b2o$11b3o17b2o$2o8bo4bo15bo
$2o7bo5bo$10bo20bo$11b2o18b2o$22bobo7b2o27b2o$11b2o10b2o3bob3o28bobo$
10bo12bo6b2o30bo$2o7bo5bo14bo$2o8bo4bo35bo$11b3o26b2o8b2o12b2o$40b2o7b
2o13b2o$3bo46b2o2b2o$2bobo$3b2o2$34bo15b2o2b2o$35b2o12b2o13b2o$23b2o9b
2o14b2o12b2o$6b2o15bobo25bo$6b2o17bo$23b3o36bo$41bo19bobo$39bobo19b2o$
40b2o$23b3o$6b2o17bo7b2o$6b2o15bobo7b2o3b2o$23b2o13b2o$45bo$45bo$39b2o
$32b2o3b2o2bo8b2o$32bo4bo2b3o8bo$29b2obo4bo4bo8bob2o$29bo2bob2o2b5o5b
2obo2bo$31b2obo5b2o4bo2bob2o$34bo11b3o$34b2o7bo$43b4o$46bo$45bo$45b2o!
Gustone wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 2:16 pm
Known?

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o3bo3b2o$obob2o2bobo$bo7bo2$4b3o2$3bo3bo$3bo3bo2$3bo3bo$2bob3obo$2bo
5bo$b2obobob2o$3bob2o2bo$3bo3bo$2b2o3b2o!
It's in jslife with a different stator — osc/o0008.lif, third row, first from the left. It can, however, be reduced:

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o2b2o3b2o$obob2o2bobo$bo7bo$5bo$5bo$4b3o3$5b2o$2b2ob3o$bobo$bo4b4o$2b
o$3bo$3o$o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by mniemiec » November 24th, 2019, 4:56 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23: ...
Amazing!

The 11 cycle idle time between the two beehive flips can be split in six different ways, giving populations 123 (0+11), 124 (1+10), 122 (2+9 as shown), 124 (3+8), 126 (4+7), and 124 (5+6). Combined with cis and trans versions, this gives 12 basic isomers.

It also looks like it ought to be possible to synthesize. Synthesizing one half of the stator is easy. Synthesizing the second will be a bit more of a challenge, and I suspect the biggest problem will be in inserting the two B heptominos into the assembled stator. Both of these should be slightly easier for the trans versions.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Jormungant » November 24th, 2019, 5:28 pm

Heavy maintenance oscillator:

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x = 303, y = 93, rule = LifeHistory
6$122.4B3.B.9B.B20.2A$122.4B.13B2ABA.B16.A.A$121.2A12B3A2B2A2BA2B16.A
B66.2A20.B.9B.B3.4B$121.2A13B2A6BA2B2.B.9B2.2B66.A.A16.B.17B.4B$122.B
.13B3A3B2A3B2A2BABA11B64.AB16.11B2A2BA4B2A2B2A$11.2A20.B.5BA3B.B3.4B
71.14BA3BA4B3ABA3BA9B2A64.2B2.9B.B2.11BAB2A6B2AB2A$10.A.A16.B.8B2A7B.
4B72.B19.B2A6BA10B2A62.A4BA3BA21BA6BABAB.B$10.BA16.10B3ABA9B2A70.14BA
3BA4BAB5A10B.B62.A10BA20B3A4B2A2B$11.2B2.9B.B2.9B2A13B2A70.13B3A3B2A
3B3A12B65.2A2BA2B2A2BA10B19.B$9.8B3A18B2A11B.B51.2A18.12B2A6BA2B82.B.
6B2A21B3A4B2A2B$8.2A5BA4BA18BA11B52.A.A18.11B3A2B2A2BA.2B3A12B69.3B3A
22BA6BABAB$8.2A5BA5BA8B19.A53.BA20.15B2ABA3BAB5A10B.B82.11BAB2A6B2A
18.2A$9.B.9BA18BA11B53.2B2.9B.B3.4B3.B.12B2.B2A6BA10B2A65.3B3A11B.9B
2A2BA4B2AB18.A.A$12.6B2A18B2A11B51.8B2A9B.4B12.4B3.2B3ABA3BA9B2A62.B.
6B2A29B2A20.AB$28.9B2A12B18.2A30.2A6BA2B2A11B2A10.4B6.B2A2BABA11B62.
2A2BA2B2A2BA10B2.12B.B3.4B3.B.3B2A4B2.2B$12.6B2A9B.8B3ABA8B18.A.A29.
2A5B6A11B2A9.4B9.B.9B2.2B64.A10BA10B3.2BAB12.4B.9BA9B$9.B.9BA18B2A9B
20.AB30.B.6B4A10B.B9.4B24.AB64.A4BA3BA9B6.2B2A10.2A10B2A2BA7B2A$8.2A
5BA5BA8B2.8BA3B.B3.4B3.B.9B2.2B34.19B10.4B24.A.A66.2B2.9B.B9.2A2B9.2A
11BA2BA7B2A$8.2A5BA4BA9B3.4B12.4B.11BA7B45.3B.B.3B6.BA2B25.2A66.AB24.
4B9.B.11BABA6B.B$9.8B3A8B6.3BA10.2A15B2A5B2A31.22B5.2A2B94.A.A24.4B
10.11B2A6B$11.2B2.9B.B9.3BA9.2A16B2A4B2A28.B.6B4A15B2.2B2A96.2A25.4B
6.3B.B.3B$10.BA24.3AB9.B.10B2A2B2A4B.B28.2A5B6A21B.B.3B.9B.B3.A2BA99.
4B5.3B2A9B2A6B$10.A.A24.4B10.19B31.2A6BA2B2A32B3A6B.A3B100.4B2.3BA3B
2A7BABA6B.B$11.2A25.4B6.3B.A.3B45.8B2A33BA4BA9BA74.4B3.B.4BA4B.3B.B.
9BA4BA6BA2BA7B2A$39.4B5.2B5A15B34.2B2.9B.3B.B.3BA16BA5BA8B2A74.4B.7BA
2BA6B2A10BA3B2A5B2A2BA7B2A$40.4B2.3BA2BAB2A5B2A2B2A4B.B30.BA21.BABA
15BA8BA3B.B74.2A10B5A5B3ABA10B2A10BA9B$15.4B3.B.9B.3B.A.8BA7BA9B2A4B
2A29.A.A19.2B2A3.14B2A8B2A76.2A9B2AB3A4BA4B3A8B.B.3B.3B2A4B2.2B$15.4B
.4B2A9B2A3BA8BA2BAB2A9B2A5B2A30.2A18.4B4.3B.B.3B94.B.9BAB2A6B3ABA5BAB
AB20.AB$14.2A7BABA9B2ABAB2A8B5A10BA7B50.4B8.11B2A8B2A79.10B2A8B2A4B3.
B2A2B18.A.A$14.2A7BA10BA6B2A8B.A.3B.9B2.2B51.4B7.B.10BA8BA3B.B94.3B.B
.3B4.A3B18.2A$15.B.6B3A9B2ABAB2A7B21.AB49.ABAB7.2A10BA5BA8B2A76.10B2A
11B8.4B$17.18B2A3BA2B3.3BA19.A.A48.B2AB8.2A11BA4BA9BA74.B.9BAB2A10B.B
7.4B$34.3B.A.3B4.ABAB18.2A48.3BA10.4B.8B3A6B.A3B74.2A9B2AB3A10B2A7.3B
A$17.23B8.2A2B66.4B11.4B3.B.9B.B3.A2BA74.2A10B5A10B2A8.3BA$15.B.6B3A
14B.B7.4B64.4B114.4B.7BA2BA6B.4B10.3A23.3B$14.2A7BA17B2A7.4B62.A3B
115.4B3.B.4BA4B.B3.4B35.4B$14.2A7BABA15B2A8.4B60.A3B151.2B24.A3B$15.
4B.4B2A11B.4B10.BABA58.B3A152.3B22.A3B$15.4B3.B.9B.B3.4B11.B2AB56.4B
153.4B21.3A$54.A3B54.4B155.3BA$55.4B52.4B157.ABA$56.4B50.BA2B157.2B2A
27.B$57.3BA48.2A2B157.4B27.2B$58.3BA46.2B2A159.BD2B25.3B$59.3AB44.4B
161.BABA23.A3B$60.4B42.4B163.B2A23.ABA$105.4B165.A24.2A$104.A3B$85.A
17.BABA$85.A.A14.2B2A$62.A22.2A14.4B$63.A36.4B$61.3A22.4B9.4B$86.4B8.
ABAB$87.3B7.B2AB180.4B.6B$87.BAB7.2BA177.2A2.4B2D3B5.2A$71.4B11.2A2B
7.2B178.A2.4B2D2B.B6.A$72.3B12.2AB7.B176.2A.A.B.4B2D3B4.B.A.2A$73.2B
199.A2.A.2A4B.D5B.2A.A2.A$74.B201.2A.A.2B7.BA2.A.2A$279.A.B8.B3A$279.
2A7.A$288.4A$72.2B217.A$72.2B216.A$86.B203.2A$70.B3.B11.B$66.2A2.B3.
2D10.B$66.A2.2B2.2D4.B6.B$63.2A.A.A2B3.2D$63.A2.A.A2B3.BD$65.2A.A.B3.
2B$68.A.A$68.2A6$69.A$68.B2A$68.ABA$68.2B!
Not sure who is dreaming of glider synthesis, but this might be needed within the recipe ^^'
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » November 24th, 2019, 5:48 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
Wow... that's awesome. Congrats a lot!!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Moosey » November 24th, 2019, 7:31 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
Wow

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Also, aren't there a handful of possible variants?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dani » November 24th, 2019, 7:57 pm

Freywa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm
The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
We should probably leave the naming to the discoverer. Unless AbhpzTa is fine with that one.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » November 24th, 2019, 9:15 pm

danny wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 7:57 pm
Freywa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm
The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
We should probably leave the naming to the discoverer. Unless AbhpzTa is fine with that one.
Seconded. And may I question about the reference? (Not obvious to a non-english-meme speaker)
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Ian07 » November 24th, 2019, 9:21 pm

Scorbie wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 9:15 pm
Seconded. And may I question about the reference? (Not obvious to a non-english-meme speaker)
It's a reference to David Hilbert's 23 math problems. And thirded about letting the discoverer suggest/approve the name.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by otismo » November 24th, 2019, 10:00 pm

23 is an interesting number.

21 in brackets.

Bracket.

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#CXRLE Pos=0,0
x = 26, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
23bo$23bobo$23b2o9$2b3o2$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo2$2b3o5b2o$10b2o3$2b2o$2b2o10$
15b2o$15b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 25th, 2019, 12:35 am

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by 77topaz » November 25th, 2019, 12:48 am

A great discovery! Instead of the somewhat clunky "122P23", I'd recommend "Okanishi's p23" or "Luka's p23" as (at least temporary) names, in the fashion of e.g. Elkies' p5 and Achim's p8 respectively.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 25th, 2019, 7:19 am

77topaz wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 12:48 am
A great discovery! Instead of the somewhat clunky "122P23", I'd recommend "Okanishi's p23" or "Luka's p23" as (at least temporary) names, in the fashion of e.g. Elkies' p5 and Achim's p8 respectively.
I would call it "David Hilbert" or "AbhpzTa's p23". It is already in my set of user pages with 12 variants and a pseudo-period monomer.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by AbhpzTa » November 25th, 2019, 8:33 am

Freywa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm
The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
I agree.


Sokwe wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm
AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
WOW! As others have said, we are curious to know how you found it.
Stabilization of A for awesome's partial/troll.
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by muzik » November 25th, 2019, 6:02 pm

In light of recent discoveries, here's a failed stabilisation of a p41 wick that's been known for quite a while now. Just in case.

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x = 322, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o9$10bobo$11b2o$11bo8$22bo$20bobo$21b2o23bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31b
o31bo31bo31bo$46bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo$46bo31bo31bo31bo31b
o31bo31bo31bo31bo17b2o$320bo$318bobo$318b2o2$42bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo$40b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o
19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b
2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o$42bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7b
o23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2$42bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo$40b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o
19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b
2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o$42bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo
23bo7bo23bo7bo2$318b2o$318bobo$320bo$46bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo
31bo17b2o$46bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo$21b2o23bo31bo31bo31bo
31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo$20bobo$22bo8$11bo$11b2o$10bobo9$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Naszvadi » November 26th, 2019, 4:11 am

AbhpzTa wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 8:33 am
Freywa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm
The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
I agree.


Sokwe wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm
AbhpzTa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 8:53 am
p23:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$17bo$14b4o$5b2o7bo$5bo11b3o$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$o2bob2o3bo3bo
4b2obo2bo$2obo5b2o2bobo6bob2o$3bo5bo5bo6bo$3b2o7b3o6b2o$7b3o3$9bobo$9b
2o3b3o$14b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$11bo$3b2o5b2o9b2o$3bo5b2obo9bo$2obo6bobo9bob2o
$o2bob2o4b2o6b2obo2bo$2b2obo11bo2bob2o$5bo11b3o$5b2o7bo$14b4o$17bo$16b
o$16b2o!
WOW! As others have said, we are curious to know how you found it.
Stabilization of A for awesome's partial/troll.
Gratula to the discoverers! As it was mentioned before, this is likely to be a POTY! A famous quote from and old Predator-saga movie: "Okay, who's next?" - someone quickly updated this table with fresh results and created the relevant dedicated entry: So periods to be find: p19, p38, p41, and a nontrivial example for p34.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 27th, 2019, 3:28 am

Naszvadi wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 4:11 am
AbhpzTa wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 8:33 am
Freywa wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm
The new p23 will be called David Hilbert. The reference should be obvious.
I agree.

Sokwe wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm
WOW! As others have said, we are curious to know how you found it.
Stabilization of A for awesome's partial/troll.
Gratula to the discoverers! As it was mentioned before, this is likely to be a POTY! A famous quote from and old Predator-saga movie: "Okay, who's next?" - someone quickly updated this table with fresh results and created the relevant dedicated entry: So periods to be find: p19, p38, p41, and a nontrivial example for p34.
I also have a user page for this oscillaotor listing 12 variants and a pseudo-period monomer.
The ENEERG-y of the EVAD is watching.
The 70th NAI-ve guy is watching.

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Please see User:Entity Valkyrie 2/StateInvestigator. Expect me to post StateInvestigator patterns in ExtendedLife threads.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 28th, 2019, 6:54 am

There is a nice potential p49 in the osc-supported section of jslife consisting of 4 interacting traffic lights. According to JLS there is no p7 that can provide the necessary dot spark, but there is another possibility that looks like it has some promise:

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x = 39, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$16bo$17b2o2$16bo$15b2o$bo12bo3bo$bo5bobo4bobob2o$3o3b2obo5b2o$3o
6bo7b3o$o3b2ob2o$5bo2bo$6b2o$35bobo$19b2o16bo$18bo2bo8b2o4b2o$18b2ob2o
2bo3bo5b2o$7b3o7bo6bo2bob2ob2ob2o$10b2o5bob2o3bobobobo2bo2bo$7b2obobo
4bobo6bobobobo2bobo$8bo3bo11bobob2o2bob2obo$10b2o12b2o6bo2bob2o$10bo
22b2o2$8b2o$6b4o$7b2o!
Can anyone find a p7 oscillator to complete this p49? If so, I think it will be the first p49 that is not a glider loop.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 28th, 2019, 11:21 pm

Looking some more at the osc-supported section of jslife, I noticed that one of the p72 reactions could be supported by Elkies' p36:

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x = 47, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$19bo6bo$19bobo4bo$20b2o6bo$27b2o$26b2o$27bo$28bo3$21bo$22bo$22b
2o$21b2o$21bo6b2o$17bo5bo4bobo$15b3o5bo6bo$14bo15b2o$14b2o30bo$4b3o37b
3o$4bobo36bo$4b3o15bo20b2o$11b3o8bo10b3o$11bobo9bo9bobo$11b3o7bobo9b3o
$2b2o20bo15b3o$3bo15bo20bobo$3o16bo3bo16b3o$o19b3o8b2o$15b2o15bo$16bo
6bo5b3o$16bobo4bo5bo$17b2o6bo$24b2o$23b2o$24bo$25bo3$18bo$19bo$19b2o$
18b2o$18bo6b2o$20bo4bobo$20bo6bo$27b2o!
At first I thought it didn't work, because a domino spark from the p36 interacts with the p72 engine where it wasn't supposed to. However, it turns out that this extra interaction actually saves the pattern. Without it, the p72 engine would destroy the p36 oscillators.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 29th, 2019, 5:10 am

I've been trying to solve some old problems with new technology. Here is a stabilization of a p13 wick from jslife using one of the new p13 oscillators:

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x = 91, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
25bo19bo19bo$23b3o17b3o17b3o19bo$22bo19bo19bo20b5o$22b2o18b2o18b2o18bo
5bo$68b2o13b3o2bo$69bo16bob2o$69bob2o11b3o3bo$5bo64bo3b2o7bo3bobo$3b5o
12bo19bo19bo16bo4bo2b3ob2o$2bo5bo10b3o17b3o17b3o15bo4bo$2bo2b3o10bo3bo
15bo3bo15bo3bo9bo4bo4bo2b3ob2o$b2obo13b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o11b2o7bo3b
obo$o3b3o77b3o3bo$bobo3bo7b2o11b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o13bob2o$2ob3o2bo
4bo4bo9bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo10b3o2bo$8bo4bo15b3o17b3o17b3o10bo5bo$2ob3o
2bo4bo16bo19bo19bo12b5o$bobo3bo7b2o3bo64bo$o3b3o11b2obo$b2obo16bo$2bo
2b3o13b2o$2bo5bo18b2o18b2o23b2o$3b5o20bo19bo23bo$5bo19b3o17b3o25b3o$
25bo19bo29bo!
This wick is very sparky, so I was hoping it might be useful for something else, but the sparks are very similar to those produced by the p13s that stabilize it. Does anyone see a use?

Edit: another p13 wick stabilization:

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x = 85, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
26bo$24b3o7bo$23bo8b3o7bo$5bo17b2o6bo8b3o7bo$3b5o23b2o6bo8b3o7bo$2bo5b
o30b2o6bo8b3o7bo$2bo2b3o39b2o6bo8b3o12bo$b2obo15bo2bo31b2o6bo13b5o$o3b
2o5bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo31b2o11bo5bo$bobo2bo3bo4bo4b3o5bobo5bo2bo37b3o2bo$
2ob3o10bo11b3o5bobo5bo2bo32bob2o$7bo8bo5b3o11b3o5bobo5bo2bo14bo2bo5b2o
3bo$2ob3o10bo5bobo5b3o11b3o5bobo5bo2bo5bo4bo3bo2bobo$bobo2bo3bo4bo5bo
2bo5bobo5b3o11b3o5bobo5bo10b3ob2o$o3b2o5bo2bo14bo2bo5bobo5b3o11b3o5bo
8bo$b2obo32bo2bo5bobo5b3o11bo10b3ob2o$2bo2b3o37bo2bo5bobo5b3o4bo4bo3bo
2bobo$2bo5bo11b2o31bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo5b2o3bo$3b5o13bo6b2o31bo2bo15bob2o$
5bo12b3o8bo6b2o39b3o2bo$18bo7b3o8bo6b2o30bo5bo$26bo7b3o8bo6b2o23b5o$
34bo7b3o8bo6b2o17bo$42bo7b3o8bo$50bo7b3o$58bo!
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Extrementhusiast » November 30th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Sokwe wrote:
November 28th, 2019, 6:54 am
There is a nice potential p49 in the osc-supported section of jslife consisting of 4 interacting traffic lights. According to JLS there is no p7 that can provide the necessary dot spark, but there is another possibility that looks like it has some promise:

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x = 39, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$16bo$17b2o2$16bo$15b2o$bo12bo3bo$bo5bobo4bobob2o$3o3b2obo5b2o$3o
6bo7b3o$o3b2ob2o$5bo2bo$6b2o$35bobo$19b2o16bo$18bo2bo8b2o4b2o$18b2ob2o
2bo3bo5b2o$7b3o7bo6bo2bob2ob2ob2o$10b2o5bob2o3bobobobo2bo2bo$7b2obobo
4bobo6bobobobo2bobo$8bo3bo11bobob2o2bob2obo$10b2o12b2o6bo2bob2o$10bo
22b2o2$8b2o$6b4o$7b2o!
Can anyone find a p7 oscillator to complete this p49? If so, I think it will be the first p49 that is not a glider loop.
Here's a longer partial with several potential branch points:

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x = 51, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
47b2o$4b2obobobo33bo2bo$4bob2ob2obo3b2o27b3o$8bo3bo3bo4b2o18b2o5b3o$5b
2o3b2ob2obo5bo7b2o9bo3b2o3bo$5bob3obobobo4bo9bobob2o3bobo3bob3o$7bo5bo
5bob4o7bobobobobob2obobo$7bo5b2o4bobo3bo6bo3bobobo3bo$3bob2o4bobo4b2o
4bo4b2o2bobo2bobo2b2o$b4o6bo3bo4b2obob2ob4o9b2obo$bo2bo2bob4o6b2ob2obo
bobo5bo4bo5b2o$2bo3bobo8bo5bo3bob2o4b2o8b3o$2bobobobob5obob4obobobobo
9bo7bo$obob2obob2o4b2obo3bo2b2o2bobo3b5o$2o5bo4b2o5bo2bobo4b2obo2bo$7b
ob3ob6o4b2o7bo4bo$8b2o22b2o2b2o$15b2o$15b2o!
EDIT: Completed:

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x = 189, y = 189, rule = B3/S23
93b2ob2o$94bobo$93bo3bo$92bob2obo$90b3obobo$89bo$89bob3obo$88b2obo3bo$
88bo3b2o$89b2obo$90bobob2ob2o$89bo2bo3bobo$90b2o4bobob2o$92b5ob2obo$
92bo4bo$93b3obob2o$95b2ob2o2bo$101b2o2$94bo$93bob2o$93bobo$92b2obob2ob
2o$92bo2bob3obo$93b2obob2obob2o$94bobo2b2o2bo$94bobo6bo$93b2obo2b4o$
94bob4o$91bo2bob2o3b2o$90bobob2o6bo$91b2o4bo4bob2o$93bobob2o2b2o2bo$
93bo4b2o3bo$90b2obo2bobob3o$90bobo3bobobo$92bobobo2bo$91bob3o$91bo4bo$
92b4o$96bo$94bo$93bobobobo$93bobob2obo$91b2obobo3bo$92bo4bobob2o$92bo
2bobo3bo$91b2obo2b3obo$89bo2bobo3bobob2o$89b2obobob3obo3bo$92bobo2bo2b
ob2o$92bo3bo2bobo$93b2o2b3obo$97bo2bo$98b2o3bo$100b4o$98b2o$98bo2bo$
95bo4b2o$94bobo5b2o$94bob5o2bo$91b2obo6b2o$91bo2b2ob4o$93bo4bobo$94b3o
bobobo$96bobob2obo$90bo6b3o3bo$90b3o7b2ob2o$93bo7bobo$92bo3bo3bo2bo$
92b2o3bob2obo$90b2o3bob2obob2o$89bo2b2o6bo3bo$90bobo3bo3b2ob2o$89b2o2b
o2bo4bobo$91bobobo2b3o3bo$89b2o2b4obo2b3o$90bobo3bo2b2o$89bo2b2o3b2o2b
o$89b2o8b3o$98bo$99b3o$97bo4bo$31b2o65b2ob2o$24bo6bo17bo17bo4b2obo$24b
3o6bo14bobo3b2o3b2o4b5obob2obo20bo$16b2o9bob4obo10bo2bobo4bo3bobo2bo5b
2o4bo5b2o12b2o$12b2o3bo4b3o2bobo2bobo10b3o3b2o2bob2o2bo3bob2o4b2obob2o
bobo11bo3bo$12bo2bo6bo2bobo6b2o7b2o3b3o2bobo2bobob4obob5obobobobo6bobo
4bobob2o79b2o$13bob2o6b3ob2o4bo2bo5bo2bobo3b2obobo3bobo3bo3bo4bobobobo
bo3b2obo5b2o11b2obobobo22b2o36bobob3o$10b4o2bo5b3o3bo3b4o7bo3b3o2bobob
2o2bob5o4bo3b2obobo2bo6bo7b3o8bob2ob2obo3b2o16bo13b2o3bo17bob2o4bo$ob
2o6bo3b2o6b2o4b2ob2o9b2ob3ob2ob2o6bobo3bo3b2o6bo3bo2b2ob2o23bo3bo3bo4b
2o13bo2bo5b2o2bo2bobo16bo4b2obo$2o2bo6b3o2bo3bo3b6o4b3obobo3bo4bobo7b
2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o8bo2bo20b2o3b2ob2obo5bo9b8o4bo2b2o3b2o6b2o7b2ob4obob2o
$3bo2b2o2bo2bob2o3b4o6bobo4bobo2b2o2bo11bo3bobo6bo3b2o10b2o21bob3obobo
bo4bo10bo8b2o2bobo2b3o4bo2bob3o4bobo4bobo3bobo$2ob2o5bo2bobo3bo4b7o5b
2obobo2bo2b4obo6b4obo11bo35bo11bob4o6bob4o2bo2bobob2o5b7o4bo3bobo2bo5b
2ob2o$obo3bobo4bobo4b3obo2bo4b3o2bobo2b2o8bo10bo4bobobob3obo21b2o10b2o
3bo6bobo3bo11bo2b2o2bobo4bobo6b4o3b2obo2bo2b2o2bo$3b2obob4ob2o7b2o6b2o
3b2o2bo4b8o9bo5bob2ob2o3b2o20bo2bo8b2ob2o3bo3b2o3b2o7bobo4bo3bobob3o4b
6o3bo3bo2b3o6bo2b2o$4bob2o4bo16bobo2bo2b2o5bo2bo13b2o4bo3bo3bo23b2ob2o
2bo3bo6b2o3bo3bobo6b2ob2ob3ob2o9b2ob2o4b2o6b2o3bo6b2obo$4bo4b2obo17bo
3b2o13bo16b2o3bob2ob2obo8b3o7bo6bo2bobob2o3bo4b5obo2b2obobo2b3o3bo7b4o
3bo3b3o5bo2b4o$5b3obobo36b2o22bobobob2o11b2o5bob2o3bobobobobo4bo3bo3bo
bo3bobob2o3bobo2bo5bo2bo4b2ob3o6b2obo$7b2o79b2obobo4bobo6bobobobob5obo
b4obobo2bobo2b3o3b2o7b2o6bobo2bo6bo2bo$89bo3bo11bobob2obob2o4b2obo3bo
2b2obo2b2o3b3o10bobo2bobo2b3o4bo3b2o$91b2o12b2o5bo4b2o5bo2bobo3bo4bobo
2bo10bob4obo9b2o$91bo20bob2obob5o4b2o3b2o3bobo14bo6b3o$113bob2o4bo17bo
17bo6bo$86b2ob2o65b2o$86bo4bo$87b3o$90bo$87b3o8b2o$87bo2b2o3b2o2bo$88b
2o2bo3bobo$85b3o2bob4o2b2o$84bo3b3o2bobobo$85bobo4bo2bo2b2o$84b2ob2o3b
o3bobo$84bo3bo6b2o2bo$85b2obob2obo3b2o$86bob2obo3b2o$85bo2bo3bo3bo$85b
obo7bo$84b2ob2o7b3o$85bo3b3o6bo$85bob2obobo$86bobobob3o$88bobo4bo$88b
4ob2o2bo$86b2o6bob2o$85bo2b5obo$85b2o5bobo$87b2o4bo$87bo2bo$89b2o$85b
4o$85bo3b2o$88bo2bo$87bob3o2b2o$87bobo2bo3bo$85b2obo2bo2bobo$84bo3bob
3obobob2o$85b2obobo3bobo2bo$87bob3o2bob2o$87bo3bobo2bo$86b2obobo4bo$
88bo3bobob2o$88bob2obobo$89bobobobo$94bo$92bo$93b4o$92bo4bo$93b3obo$
89bo2bobobo$88bobobo3bobo$86b3obobo2bob2o$85bo3b2o4bo$83bo2b2o2b2obobo
$83b2obo4bo4b2o$86bo6b2obobo$86b2o3b2obo2bo$89b4obo$86b4o2bob2o$85bo6b
obo$85bo2b2o2bobo$84b2obob2obob2o$87bob3obo2bo$87b2ob2obob2o$93bobo$
92b2obo$94bo2$86b2o$86bo2b2ob2o$88b2obob3o$91bo4bo$87bob2ob5o$87b2obob
o4b2o$90bobo3bo2bo$90b2ob2obobo$96bob2o$95b2o3bo$93bo3bob2o$93bob3obo$
99bo$92bobob3o$91bob2obo$91bo3bo$92bobo$91b2ob2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 2nd, 2019, 2:59 am

Extrementhusiast wrote:
November 30th, 2019, 7:20 pm
Completed
Wow. That non-obvious completion with the pipsquirter is truly a piece of art.
Sokwe wrote:
November 28th, 2019, 11:21 pm
Looking some more at the osc-supported section of jslife, I noticed that one of the p72 reactions could be supported by Elkies' p36:
Beautiful.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » December 2nd, 2019, 3:15 am

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x = 16, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o8b2o$2bobo7bobo$o2bobo4bo2bobo$bo2bo6bo2bo$bo9bo$2bo8bo$bo10bo!
My favourite oscillator of all time

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
7bo2$3b2o5b2o$b2o4bo4b2o$5b2ob2o$bobo7bobo$bo2bobobobo2bo$5obobob5o$o
4bo3bo4bo$b3obobobob3o$3bob2obo2bo$8bobo$8b2o!

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