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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by praosylen » June 8th, 2020, 9:23 am

dvgrn wrote:
June 8th, 2020, 8:56 am
Someone who doesn't like ugly welds might want to fix the hideous bodge job in the northeast -- that was just to make sure that it was going to work.
No weld necessary, in fact:

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x = 446, y = 132, rule = LifeHistory
27$366.A$366.3A$369.A$368.2A8.2A$368.5B5.A16.B$370.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$363.
B4.6B.B2A18.A.A9.B2AB$362.2AB.10B20.A.A9.3B$362.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.
B$363.B.11B14.A2.A4.B8.5B$365.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$363.2B.12B2.5B
2.B2A6.A.2A4.8B$362.2A24B10.13B$362.2A24B12.13B$363.B.B.20B12.15B$366.
20B2.B10.15B$365.26B5.B.17B$364.51B$365.21B2ABD11B2A2B2D9B$365.21B2AB
3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$366.23BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$366.25BD19B4.A
2.2A3.2A$364.B.29B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A5.A3.2A$364.B.13B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.
2A.A$364.15B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.A.A.2A.A$364.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A
.2A$365.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$366.12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$367.11B24.A10.4B3.8B
$367.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$368.9B14.2A17.A4.12B$368.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$368.
9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$368.9B14.2A20.16B2A$369.8B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$351.2C16B
.7B5.A.A7.3B19.13B$349.C.3BC22B6.AB6.6B16.14B.2B$.6A344.4BC17B2C4B3.2B
3.B2.10B11.18B2A$A5.A342.C5BC16BC2BC4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B2A$6.A343.6C17B
2C15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$A4.A344.21B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B$2.2A348.16B3.7B
2C11B2D18B3D4B2.7B$360.8B4.6BCBC10BD21BD4B2.7B$350.B.3B3.13B.7BC10BD26B
3.7B$348.34B.4B5.13B.4B9.8B.BA$347.40B5.7B.B5.3B10.9BA.A5.A$347.38B21.
2B12.9BA4.3A$347.4B2A30B21.2A15.6B.B4.A$345.2AB.2B2A29B23.A15.5B7.2A$
344.A.AB3.30B21.3A16.6B3.5B$344.A9.27B21.A16.2AB.5B2.3B$343.2A12.12B2.
10B37.A.AB3.9B7.2A$359.9B5.8B37.A7.8B8.A$360.11B4.6B36.2A8.10B3.B.A.2A
$360.12B4.4B47.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$360.12B55.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$361.11B55.
3B2D7B4A$359.4B.4B3DB53.2AB.7B3.2B.A$359.2A4.4BD2B52.A.AB.7B2.B3A$360.
A4.2B3D2B52.A5.5B3.A$357.3A6.6B51.2A5.5B4.5A$357.A8.7B56.4B10.A$366.6B
56.4B9.A$367.5B55.4B10.2A$367.6B53.4B$366.6B3.2A48.4B$366.7B2.A.A46.4B
$367.6B4.A45.4B$367.6B4.2A43.4B$367.6B48.4B$366.8B46.4B$365.8B46.4B$365.
9B44.4B$365.9B43.4B$364.10B42.4B$364.3B2A5B41.4B$358.2A3.4B2A5B5.A34.
4B$359.A3.11B3.3A33.4B$359.A.A7BD4B2.A11.A23.4B$360.2A2.4B3DB4.2A8.3A
22.4B$365.2B2D2BD6B7.A24.4B$366.10B5.B3.2A11.A10.4B$366.11B2.8B11.3A7.
4B$366.19B16.A5.4B$363.2A20B15.2A4.4B$363.2A21B14.9B6.2A$363.25B14.6B
7.A$365.26B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$365.4B4.14BD19B4.A2.A$361.A.2AB.B6.6B.4B
DBD13BD6B3.B2A$359.3AB2AB6.5B.B2.4B3D9B2A2BDBD9B$358.A4.B8.2A7.4BD11B
2A2B2D9B$358.A.2A.2A8.A8.29B$359.A.A.A6.3A16.B2.B.17B$363.A6.A24.15B$
363.2A30.15B$385.2A3.A5.13B$385.A3.A.A2.13B$386.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$387.A4.
AB2A6.6B$385.A.5A2.B8.5B$384.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B$385.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.
3B$386.2A.A.2A11.B2AB$405.2A!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by JP21 » June 8th, 2020, 11:22 am

EDIT by dvgrn: This pattern had no text with it, but I think it's just a copy of the last version of the converter/eater I had posted on the previous page, with a couple of things patched up that I had also patched in the meantime. Good to have it at the top of a new page, though --

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x = 95, y = 107, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$9.3A$12.A$11.2A8.2A$11.5B5.A$13.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$6.B4.6B.B2A18.A.
A9.B2AB$5.2AB.10B20.A.A9.3B$5.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.B$6.B.11B14.A2.A4.
B8.5B$8.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$6.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A6.A.2A4.8B$5.2A24B
10.13B$5.2A24B12.13B$6.B.B.20B12.15B$B8.20B2.B10.15B$2B6.26B5.B.17B$
3B4.51B$4B4.21B2ABD11B2A2B2D9B$.4B3.21B2AB3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$2.
4B3.23BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$3.4B2.25BD19B4.A.B2A3.2A$4.4B.29B2.2B
2.B3.6B5.A5.A3.2A$5.17B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.2A.A$6.16B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.
A.A.2A.A$7.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A.2A$8.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$9.
12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$10.11B24.A10.4B3.8B$10.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$11.9B14.2A17.
A4.12B$11.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$11.9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$11.9B14.2A20.
16B2A$12.8B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$2B2A8B.7B5.A.A7.3B19.13B$A4BA14B6.AB6.6B
16.14B.2B$6BA9B2A4B3.2B3.B2.10B11.18B2A$A5BA8BA2BA4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B
2A$B6A9B2A15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$14B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B$12B2.7B2A11B2D
18B3D4B2.7B$15.6BABA10BD21BD4B2.7B$15.7BA10BD26B3.7B$14.11B.4B5.13B.
4B11.6B.BA$13.17B5.7B.B5.3B12.7BA.A$11.17B19.4B13.8BA$11.17B19.2A15.
6B.B$11.18B19.A15.5B$11.18B16.3A16.6B$9.2A18B16.A16.2AB.5B$4.2A2.A2BA
.14B.B2A30.A.AB3.4B13.A$.A2.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A29.A7.4B10.3A$A.A.A.4BA
3.8B9.A28.2A8.4B8.A$.A2.A.2AB5.7B10.2A38.4B7.2A$4.A.BAB4.11B48.4B3.5B
$5.A4.A2.12B48.4B2.3B$6.5A2.12B49.9B7.2A$14.11B50.8B8.A$8.A3.4B.4B3DB
51.10B3.B.A.2A$7.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B51.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$8.2A3.A4.2B3D2B51.
2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$10.3A6.6B51.3B2D7B4A$10.A8.7B48.2AB.7B3.2B.A$19.8B
46.A.AB.7B2.B3A$20.8B45.A5.4B4.A$20.8B44.2A5.4B5.5A$19.6B2.B2A48.4B
10.A$19.7B.BA.A46.4B9.A$20.6B4.A45.4B10.2A$20.6B4.2A43.4B$20.6B48.4B$
19.8B46.4B$18.8B46.4B$18.9B44.4B$18.9B43.4B$17.10B42.4B$17.3B2A5B41.
4B$11.2A3.4B2A5B5.A34.4B$12.A3.11B3.3A33.4B$12.A.A7BD4B2.A11.A23.4B$
13.2A2.4B3DB4.2A8.3A22.4B$18.2B2D2BD6B7.A24.4B$19.10B5.B3.2A11.A10.4B
$19.11B2.8B11.3A7.4B$19.19B16.A5.4B$16.2A20B15.2A4.4B$16.2A21B14.9B6.
2A$16.25B14.6B7.A$18.26B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$18.4B4.14BD19B4.A2.A$14.A.
2AB.B6.6B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A$12.3AB2AB6.5B.B2.4B3D9B2A2BDBD9B$11.A4.B8.
2A7.4BD11B2A2B2D9B$12.3A.2A8.A8.29B$14.A.A6.3A16.2B.B.17B$14.A.A6.A
17.3B4.15B$15.A21.2A.2BA5.15B$37.A.2BA.A5.13B$38.A2.BA.A2.13B$39.A3.A
.A.2A4.8B$37.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$36.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$36.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$
37.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$45.A.A9.B2AB$46.A11.2A!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 8th, 2020, 11:57 am

Aha, this variant works down to repeat time 591 and produces a second optional output glider:

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x = 483, y = 100, rule = LifeHistory
371.4B23.A$372.4B22.3A$373.4B24.A$374.4B22.2A8.2A$375.4B21.5B5.A16.B$
376.4B22.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$377.4B14.B4.6B.B2A18.A.A9.B2AB$378.4B12.2AB
.10B20.A.A9.3B$379.4B11.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.B$380.4B11.B.11B14.A2.A
4.B8.5B$381.4B12.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$382.4B9.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A6.A.
2A4.8B$383.4B7.2A24B10.13B$384.4B6.2A24B12.13B$385.4B6.B.B.20B12.15B$
386.4B8.20B2.B10.15B$387.4B6.26B5.B.17B$388.4B4.51B$389.4B4.21B2ABD
11B2A2B2D9B$390.4B3.21B2AB3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$391.4B3.23BDBD13BD
6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$392.4B2.25BD19B4.A.B2A3.2A$393.4B.29B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A
5.A3.2A$394.17B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.2A.A$395.16B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.A.A.2A
.A$396.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A.2A$397.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$398.
12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$399.11B24.A10.4B3.8B$399.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$400.9B14.2A
17.A4.12B$400.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$400.9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$400.9B14.
2A20.16B2A$301.B100.7B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$295.2B2C3B66.41B5.A.A7.3B19.
13B$295.C4BCB66.41B6.AB6.6B16.14B.2B$4.2A289.6BC66.37B2C4B3.2B3.B2.
10B11.18B2A$4A.2A288.C5BC66.36BC2BC4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B2A$6A289.B6C66.
37B2C15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$.4A290.7B66.35B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B$295.7B
66.34B.7B2C11B2D18B3D4B2.7B$404.6BCBC10BD21BD4B2.7B$404.7BC10BD26B3.
7B$403.11B.4B5.13B.4B9.8B.BA$402.17B5.7B.B5.3B10.9BA.A$400.17B19.4B
12.9BA$400.17B19.2A15.6B.B$400.18B19.A15.5B$400.18B16.3A16.6B$398.2A
18B16.A16.2AB.5B13.A$393.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A30.A.AB3.4B10.3A$390.A2.A3.B
ABA2.10B4.BA.A29.A7.4B8.A$389.A.A.A.4BA3.10B7.A2.A.2A.A20.2A8.4B7.2A$
390.A2.A.2AB5.9B8.4A.A.2A31.4B3.5B$393.A.BAB4.11B28.2A18.4B2.3B$394.A
4.A2.12B8.2A.A.2A11.B2AB18.9B7.2A$395.5A.13B7.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.3B20.
8B8.A$401.13B6.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B20.10B3.B.A.2A$397.A3.9B3DB7.A.5A2.
B8.5B20.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$396.A.A2.2A8BD2B9.A4.AB2A6.6B20.2BDBD2B2A3BA
B2.2A$397.2A3.A.5B3D2B8.A2.BA.A.2A4.8B20.3B2D7B4A$399.3A6.6B7.A.2BA.A
2.13B19.2AB.7B3.2B.A$399.A8.7B6.2A.2BA5.13B16.A.AB.7B2.B3A$408.8B9.3B
3.15B15.A5.5B3.A$409.8B9.2B3.15B14.2A5.5B4.5A$409.9B7.4B.17B19.4B10.A
$408.6B.32B18.4B9.A$408.7B.5BD11B2A2B2D9B16.4B10.2A$409.6B2.4B3D9B2A
2BDBD9B2.2A10.4B$409.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A9.4B$408.15BD19B4.A.B2A9.
4B$408.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A11.4B$407.18B13.6B5.3A7.4B$403.B3.19B10.9B7.A
5.4B$402.2AB.15B2.4B9.2A4.4B5.2A4.4B$402.2A18B2.4B9.A5.4B4.9B$403.B.
3B2A12B3.4B5.3A7.4B5.6B$406.2B2A11B5.4B4.A10.4B2.3BD4B$407.2B2.10B6.
4B15.7BD7B$406.2B3.6B.B9.4B15.6B3D5B$405.B2AB2.4B14.4B15.13B$406.2A3.
2B2AB14.4B15.10B.B2A$413.2A16.4B14.5B2AB3.BA.A$432.4B15.3B2AB6.A$433.
4B16.4B6.2A$434.4B15.3B$435.4B11.AB.2B$436.4B9.A.AB2AB$437.4B8.A.ABAB
AB$438.4B4.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$439.4B3.A2.A2.2A.4A$440.4B4.2A4.A$441.4B9.A.
A$442.4B9.2A$443.4B$444.4B$445.4B$446.4B$447.4B!
#C [[ STEP 5 AUTOSTART X 193 Y -10 Z 5 LOOP 1773 ]]
As before, a following *WSS can show up as soon as 487 ticks after the first one, but the delay has to be odd if the number is between 487 and 591 inclusive -- and the output will be the same as if it had showed up 591 ticks after the first signal. Also a third *WSS can't be allowed to show up early -- have to wait an extra 591-N ticks and pay back the borrowed time.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by calcyman » June 8th, 2020, 4:10 pm

dvgrn wrote:
June 8th, 2020, 11:57 am
Aha, this variant works down to repeat time 591 and produces a second optional output glider:
Three ticks faster by replacing a snark with an Fx77:

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x = 485, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
370.4B23.A$371.4B22.3A$372.4B24.A$373.4B22.2A8.2A$374.4B21.5B5.A16.B$
375.4B22.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$376.4B14.B4.6B.B2A18.A.A9.B2AB$377.4B12.2AB
.10B20.A.A9.3B$378.4B11.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.B$379.4B11.B.11B14.A2.A
4.B8.5B$380.4B12.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$381.4B9.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A6.A.
2A4.8B$382.4B7.2A24B10.13B$383.4B6.2A24B12.13B$384.4B6.B.B.20B12.15B$
385.4B8.20B2.B10.15B$386.4B6.26B5.B.17B$387.4B4.51B$388.4B4.21B2ABD
11B2A2B2D9B$389.4B3.21B2AB3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$390.4B3.23BDBD13BD
6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$391.4B2.25BD19B4.A.B2A3.2A$392.4B.29B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A
5.A3.2A$393.17B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.2A.A$394.16B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.A.A.2A
.A$395.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A.2A$396.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$397.
12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$398.11B24.A10.4B3.8B$398.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$399.9B14.2A
17.A4.12B$399.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$399.9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$399.9B14.
2A20.16B2A$6.B293.B99.8B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$2B2C3B287.2B2C3B66.41B5.A.A
7.3B19.13B$C4BCB287.C4BCB66.41B6.AB6.6B16.14B.2B$6BC287.6BC66.37B2C4B
3.2B3.B2.10B11.18B2A$C5BC287.C5BC66.36BC2BC4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B2A$B6C
287.B6C66.37B2C15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$7B287.7B66.35B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B
$7B287.7B66.34B.7B2C11B2D18B3D4B2.7B$403.6BCBC10BD21BD4B2.7B$403.7BC
10BD26B3.7B$402.11B.4B5.13B.4B9.8B.BA$401.17B5.7B.B5.3B10.9BA.A$399.
17B19.4B12.9BA$399.17B19.2A15.6B.B$399.18B19.A15.5B$399.18B16.3A16.6B
$397.2A18B16.A16.2AB.5B$392.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A30.A.AB3.4B$389.A2.A3.BAB
A2.10B4.BA.A29.A7.4B$388.A.A.A.4BA3.10B7.A28.2A8.4B13.A$389.A2.A.2AB
5.9B8.2A38.4B10.3A$392.A.BAB4.11B48.4B8.A$393.A4.A2.12B22.A25.4B7.2A$
394.5A.13B20.3A26.4B3.5B$400.13B19.A30.4B2.3B$396.A3.9B3DB19.2A30.9B
7.2A$395.A.A2.2A8BD2B17.4B31.8B8.A$396.2A3.A.5B3D2B16.3B34.10B3.B.A.
2A$398.3A6.6B15.4B34.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$398.A8.7B13.4B35.2BDBD2B2A3BAB
2.2A$407.8B11.4B28.2A6.3B2D7B4A$408.8B9.4B19.A9.A5.2AB.7B3.2B.A$408.
9B7.4B.3B.B12.3A11.A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$407.6B.21B10.A13.2A2.A5.5B3.A$407.
7B.5BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A2.3A5.5B4.5A$408.6B2.4B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B
10.A$408.7B.4BDBD13B.8B16.A5.4B9.A$407.15BD22B15.2A4.4B10.2A$407.19B
2.2B.15B14.9B6.A$406.18B7.17B14.6B5.3A$402.B3.19B7.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A$
401.2AB.15B2.4B6.15BD19B4.A.B2A$401.2A18B2.4B6.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A
$402.B.3B2A12B3.4B4.13B3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A$405.2B2A11B5.4B2.14BD11B2A2B
2D9B$406.2B2.10B6.4B2.8B2.29B$405.2B3.6B.B9.4B.6B11.4B.17B$404.B2AB2.
4B14.10B12.2B3.15B$405.2A3.2B2AB14.8B12.3B3.15B$412.2A16.7B8.2A.2BA5.
13B$431.5B9.A.2BA.A2.13B$431.3B12.A2.BA.A.2A4.8B$432.3B12.A4.AB2A6.6B
$432.B2AB9.A.5A2.B8.5B$433.2A9.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B$445.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.
A4.3B$446.2A.A.2A11.B2AB$465.2A!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 8th, 2020, 4:48 pm

calcyman wrote:
June 8th, 2020, 4:10 pm
Three ticks faster by replacing a snark with an Fx77...
Nice find! I wouldn't have expected that to work. Tightening up a Snark/syringe weld to standard form:

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x = 679, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
591bo$591b3o$594bo$593b2o8b2o$603bo$601bobo18bo11b2o$601b2o18bobo10b2o
$587b2o32bobo$587b2o26b2o2b3ob2o$615bo2bo$613bobo3b3ob2o$613b2o6bob2o$
587b2o$587b2o5$611b2o13b2o$611b2o13b2o16b2o4bob2o$641b2o2bo4b2obo$640b
o2b2o3b2o$641bo5bo3b2o$642b3o2bob2obo$644bo3bobobob2obo$629b2o20b2obob
2o$630bo$627b3o$627bo$634b2o$616b2o17bo$617bo17bobo$616bo19b2o16b2o$
616b2o36b2o$607b2o$2b2o334bo268bobo$o4bo330bo3bo249bo2bo14bo$6bo334bo
252bo3b2o54b2o$o5bo329bo4bo248bo3bo2bo2bo53b2o$b6o330b5o249b4o3b2o19b
2o$619b2o$603b2o$603bobo$604bo$654bo$653bobo$654bo$629b2o$630bo$627b3o
$591b2o34bo16b2o$586b2o2bo2bo17b2o30bobo$583bo2bo4bobo17bobo29bo$582bo
bobo5bo20bo28b2o25bo$583bo2bob2o23b2o52b3o$586bo2bo76bo$587bo4bo73b2o$
588b5o2$590bo83b2o$589bobo2b2o29bo49bo$590b2o3bo27b3o49bob2o$592b3o27b
o44b2o4b3o2bo$592bo29b2o43b2o3bo3b2o$672b4o$642bo15b2o15bo$640b3o10b2o
2bobo12b3o$639bo14bo2bo13bo$626b2o11b2o11bo2b3o14b5o$626b2o24b3o21bo$
655bo18bo$654b2o18b2o$669bo$667b3o$666bo$595b2o68bo2b2o$595b2o69b2o2bo
$601b2o48b2o16b2o$601b2o48b2o3$599b2o$599b2o5b2o$606b2o31b2o3bo$639bo
3bobo$640bo3bobob2o$641bo4bob2o$627b2o10bob5o$627b2o9bobo4bob2obob2o$
639bo2b2obo2bob2obo$640b2obob2o12b2o$659b2o!
#C [[ X 285 Y 0 Z 5 AUTOSTART PAUSE 2 STEP 5 LOOP 2000 ]]
I've added a link to this in the first post in Stable spaceship converters. What else have I forgotten to update in that list?

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by JP21 » June 9th, 2020, 12:16 am

I didn't have time to explain my last post because it was so late at night.
dvgrn wrote: :mrgreen:
A more better rle (1 small stator reduction, moved the eater closer, removed a single dot):

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x = 97, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$9.3A$12.A$11.2A8.2A$11.5B5.A$13.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$6.B4.6B.B2A18.A.
A9.B2AB$5.2AB.10B20.A.A9.3B$5.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.B$6.B.11B14.A2.A4.
B8.5B$8.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$6.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A6.A.2A4.8B$5.2A24B
10.13B$5.2A24B12.13B$6.B.B.20B12.15B$B8.20B2.B10.15B$2B6.26B5.B.17B$
3B4.51B$4B4.21B2ABD11B2A2B2D9B$.4B3.21B2AB3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$2.
4B3.23BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$3.4B2.25BD19B4.A.B2A3.2A$4.4B.29B2.2B
2.B3.6B5.A5.A3.2A$5.17B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.2A.A$6.16B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.
A.A.2A.A$7.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A.2A$8.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$9.
12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$10.11B24.A10.4B3.8B$10.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$11.9B14.2A17.
A4.12B$11.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$11.9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$11.9B14.2A20.
16B2A$12.8B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$2B2A8B.7B5.A.A7.3B19.13B$A4BA14B6.AB6.6B
16.14B.2B$6BA9B2C4B3.2B3.B2.10B11.18B2A$A5BA8BC2BC4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B
2A$B6A9B2C15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$14B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B$12B2.7B2C11B2D
18B3D4B2.7B$15.6BCBC10BD21BD4B2.7B$15.7BC10BD26B3.7B$14.11B.4B5.13B.
4B11.6B.BA$13.17B5.7B.B5.3B12.7BA.A$11.17B19.4B13.8BA$11.17B19.2A15.
6B.B$11.18B19.A15.5B$11.18B16.3A16.6B$9.2A18B16.A16.2AB.5B$4.2A2.A2BA
.14B.B2A30.A.AB3.4B$.A2.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A29.A7.4B$A.A.A.4BA3.8B9.A
28.2A8.4B13.A$.A2.A.2AB5.7B10.2A38.4B10.3A$4.A.BAB4.11B48.4B8.A$5.A4.
A2.12B48.4B7.2A$6.5A2.12B49.4B3.5B$14.11B50.4B2.3B$8.A3.4B.4B3DB51.9B
7.2A$7.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B18.A33.8B8.A$8.2A3.A4.2B3D2B16.3A34.10B3.B.A.2A$
10.3A6.6B15.A37.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$10.A8.7B14.2A36.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$
19.8B11.4B36.3B2D7B4A$20.8B9.3B20.A15.2AB.7B3.2B.A$20.9B7.4B.3B.B12.
3A10.2A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$19.6B.21B10.A14.A2.A5.4B4.A$19.7B.5BD11B2A2B5.B
3.2A11.A2.3A5.4B5.5A$20.6B2.4B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B10.A$20.7B.4BDBD
13B.8B16.A5.4B9.A$19.15BD22B15.2A4.4B10.2A$19.19B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$
18.18B7.17B14.6B7.A$14.B3.19B7.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$13.2AB.15B2.4B6.
15BD19B4.A2.A$13.2A18B2.4B6.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A$14.B.3B2A12B3.4B4.13B
3D9B2A2BDBD9B$17.2B2A11B5.4B2.14BD11B2A2B2D9B$18.2B2.10B6.4B2.8B2.29B
$17.2B3.6B.B9.4B.6B11.2B.B.17B$16.B2AB2.4B14.10B10.3B4.15B$17.2A3.2B
2AB14.8B7.2A.2BA5.15B$24.2A16.7B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$43.5B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$
43.3B12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$44.3B9.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$44.B2AB7.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$
45.2A8.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$56.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$64.A.A9.B2AB$65.A11.2A!
After a very long time, edit was needed.
I also like the previous one perfected:

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x = 94, y = 95, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$9.3A$12.A$11.2A8.2A$11.5B5.A$13.4B.BA.A18.A11.2A$6.B4.6B.B2A18.A.
A9.B2AB$5.2AB.10B20.A.A9.3B$5.2A12B14.2A2.3A.2A9.B.B$6.B.11B14.A2.A4.
B8.5B$8.13B3.4B2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B$6.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A6.A.2A4.8B$5.2A24B
10.13B$5.2A24B12.13B$6.B.B.20B12.15B$B8.20B2.B10.15B$2B6.26B5.B.17B$
3B4.51B$4B4.21B2ABD11B2A2B2D9B$.4B3.21B2AB3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A4.A.2A$2.
4B3.23BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A4.2A.A$3.4B2.25BD19B4.A.B2A3.2A$4.4B.29B2.2B
2.B3.6B5.A5.A3.2A$5.17B.7B2.4B13.6B5.3A2.A.2A.A$6.16B2.6B17.9B6.A3.A.
A.A.2A.A$7.4B.10B3.3B19.2A4.4B10.2B2A.A.2A$8.14B4.B21.A5.4B10.4B$9.
12B24.3A7.4B6.7B$10.11B24.A10.4B3.8B$10.11B31.2A3.4B.8B$11.9B14.2A17.
A4.12B$11.9B15.A17.A.AB2.11B.2B$11.9B14.A19.2AB.14B2A$11.9B14.2A20.
16B2A$12.8B5.2A8.B20.14B.2B$2B2A8B.7B5.A.A7.3B19.13B$A4BA14B6.AB6.6B
16.14B.2B$6BA9B2C4B3.2B3.B2.10B11.18B2A$A5BA8BC2BC4B2.19B3.2B2.19B.B
2A$B6A9B2C15BD3B2A15BD15B2.B$14B.18B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.8B$12B2.7B2C11B2D
18B3D4B2.7B$15.6BCBC10BD21BD4B2.7B$15.7BC10BD26B3.7B$14.11B.4B5.13B.
4B11.6B.BA$13.17B5.7B.B5.3B12.7BA.A$11.17B19.4B13.8BA$11.17B19.2A15.
6B.B$11.18B19.A15.5B$11.18B16.3A16.6B$9.2A18B16.A16.2AB.5B13.A$4.2A2.
A2BA.14B.B2A30.A.AB3.4B10.3A$.A2.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A29.A7.4B8.A$A.A.A.
4BA3.8B9.A28.2A8.4B7.2A$.A2.A.2AB5.7B10.2A38.4B3.5B$4.A.BAB4.11B16.A
11.2A18.4B2.3B$5.A4.A2.12B14.A.A9.B2AB18.9B7.2A$6.5A2.12B6.A3.2A2.A.A
9.3B20.8B8.A$14.11B5.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B20.10B3.B.A.2A$8.A3.4B.4B3DB5.
A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B20.4BD2B2A2B.B3A2.A$7.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B6.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B
20.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$8.2A3.A4.2B3D2B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B20.3B2D7B4A$10.3A
6.6B7.A2.BA.A2.13B19.2AB.7B3.2B.A$10.A8.7B5.A.2BA.A5.13B16.A.AB.7B2.B
3A$19.8B4.2A.2BA5.15B15.A5.4B4.A$20.8B7.3B4.15B14.2A5.4B5.5A$20.9B7.
2B.B.17B19.4B10.A$19.6B.32B18.4B9.A$19.7B.5BD11B2A2B2D9B16.4B10.2A$
20.6B2.4B3D9B2A2BDBD9B2.2A10.4B$20.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A2.A9.4B$19.15BD
19B4.A.B2A9.4B$19.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.A11.4B$18.18B13.6B5.3A7.4B$14.B3.
19B10.9B7.A5.4B$13.2AB.15B2.4B9.2A4.4B5.2A4.4B$13.2A18B2.4B9.A5.4B4.
9B$14.B.3B2A12B3.4B5.3A7.4B5.6B$17.2B2A11B5.4B4.A10.4B2.3BD4B$18.2B2.
10B6.4B15.7BD7B$17.2B3.6B.B9.4B15.6B3D5B$16.B2AB2.4B14.4B15.13B$17.2A
3.2B2AB14.4B15.10B.B2A$24.2A16.4B16.3B2AB3.BA.A$43.4B15.3B2AB6.A$44.
4B16.4B6.2A$45.4B15.3B$46.4B11.AB.2B$47.4B9.A.AB2AB$48.4B8.A.ABABAB$
49.4B4.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$50.4B3.A2.A2.2A.4A$51.4B4.2A4.A$52.4B9.A.A$53.4B
9.2A!
And thanks to dvgrn for making me remind myself that the second pattern had a lot of state 2(lifehistory) mistakes.
(only reposted the patterns to make it more perfect than previous posts)(just like updating my eaters every so often i found a mistake or stator reductions)

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by GUYTU6J » June 11th, 2020, 11:08 am

Wonderful work on the universal xWSS→G converter! That naturally brings up my noob-y question: is there any M/HWSS→G converter that can tell the parity of the input? Probably we can have the input activate something with its spark, and then crash it into something like

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x = 20, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$3bo14b2o$bo3bo$6bo4b2o$bo4bo3bo2bo$2b5o4bobo$12bo14$18b2o$2bo15b
2o$o3bo$5bo5b2o$o4bo4bo2bo$b5o5bobo$12bo!
A step further, can we also tell if the input is an MWSS or an HWSS? The difference is at their sparks.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 11th, 2020, 12:46 pm

GUYTU6J wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 11:08 am
Wonderful work on the universal xWSS→G converter! That naturally brings up my noob-y question: is there any M/HWSS→G converter that can tell the parity of the input?
I don't know of one, but maybe something could be built. If we're allowed to use high-period oscillators, there's no doubt a way to test for the presence of a singleton or domino spark at a very specific spacetime location to figure out HWSS or MWSS or even LWSS parity. It's fiddly and complicated, but doable. A completely stable structure... well, no doubt that's doable too, but it would take a complete rebuild.

All you'd have to do is enumerate a big pile of constellations, and find the one that's cheapest to reconstruct, that when struck by the six possible *WSSes creates a different explosion (with at least one output glider for each explosion, on different lanes). Each output glider lane is attached to a slow-salvo shotgun that cleans up any leftover junk and rebuilds the bait. It's slow and awkward, but it should work.
GUYTU6J wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 11:08 am
A step further, can we also tell if the input is an MWSS or an HWSS? The difference is at their sparks.
I thought we had an HWSS Heisenburp mechanism, but I can't seem to find it. I did find EV2's rebuild of the stable MWSS Heisenburp. If we can find a bait for the HWSS that consists of a single cell in the adjacent lane, then the MWSS would go right by but the HWSS would trigger the Heisenburp. That's a start, though it might be necessary to use 2c/3 or lightspeed technology to get the MWSS Heisenburp mechanism out of the way, if an HWSS shows up.

Also these Heisenburps probably won't work for both parities of HWSS or MWSS, so I guess this might be another place where the Six Explosions For Six Possible *WSSes method would be a better bet.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by bubblegum » June 12th, 2020, 4:12 pm

Breaking away from the universal xWSS->G discussion, actual spaceship eaters:

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x = 210, y = 188, rule = B3/S23
23bo$21b3o$20bo$20b2o3$b3o13b3o$bobo12bo2bo$b3o15bo$3bo15bo$2b2o12bobo
$23bo$21b3o$20bo$20b2o3$bobo13b3o$bobo12bo2bo$bobo15bo$bobo11bo3bo$bob
o15bo$16bobo3$17b2o$16bo2bo$16bo2bo2b2o$17b2o3b2o3$2b2o13b3o$o3bo11bo
2bo$o2b2o14bo$o3bo10bo3bo$2b3o10bo3bo$19bo$16bobo7$12bo15bo$12b3o11b3o
$15bo9bo$14b2o9b2o3$ob3o11b3o3b3o$obobo11bo2bobo2bo$ob3o11bo7bo$obobo
11bo7bo$ob3o12bobobobo8$37b2o$36bo2bo$36bo2bo2b2o31b2o$12bo15bo8b2o3b
2o5bobo15bo6bo2bo13bo$12b3o11b3o18b3ob3o11b3o6bo2bo2b2o9b3o$15bo9bo20b
o7bo9bo10b2o3b2o5bo6bo12bo$14b2o9b2o19b2o5b2o9b2o19b3o5b2o10b3o$84bo
19bo$84b2o18b2o$3ob3o9b3o3b3o12b3o3b3o9b3o3b3o11b3o17b3o$2bobobo9bo2bo
bo2bo12bo2bobo2bo9bo2bobo2bo11bo2bo16bo2bo$3obobo9bo7bo12bo7bo9bo7bo
11bo5b3o11bo5b3o$o3bobo9bo7bo12bo7bo9bo7bo11bo4bo2bo11bo4bo2bo$3ob3o9b
o3b2obo13bo4bobo10bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo$17bobo17bo18bobobobo12bo7bo12bob
o4bo$38bobo35bobobobo20bo$100bobo3$34bo105bo$34b3o101b3o$37bo99bo$36b
2o99b2o2$16b2o41b2o91b2o19b2o$15bo2bo39bo2bo20b2o67bo2bo17bo2bo$15bo2b
o2b2o35bo2bo2b2o15bo2bo21b2o43bo2bo2b2o13bo2bo2b2o16b2o$16b2o3b2o5bo
21bo8b2o3b2o6bo8bo2bo2b2o6bo9bo2bo15bo27b2o3b2o5bo8b2o3b2o6bo8bo2bo$
26b3o19b3o19b3o9b2o3b2o4b3o9bo2bo2b2o11b3o35b3o19b3o8bo2bo2b2o$25bo21b
o21bo22bo13b2o3b2o5bo8bo33bo21bo12b2o3b2o$25b2o20b2o20b2o21b2o22b3o7b
2o33b2o20b2o24bo$115bo91b3o$115b2o89bo$b2ob3o9b3o3b3o13b3o3b3o12b3o4b
3o20b3o14b3o19b3o27b3o19b3o13b3o7b2o$2bo3bo9bo2bobo2bo13bo2bobo2bo12bo
2bo2bo2bo13b3o3bo2bo14bo2bo18bo2bo25bo2bo18bo2bo13bo2bo$3ob3o9bo7bo13b
o7bo12bo8bo13bo2bo5bo14bo5b3o13bo5b3o15b3o5bo12b3o6bo13bo$o3bo11bo7bo
13bo7bo12bo3bo4bo13bo8bo14bo4bo2bo13bo4bo2bo15bo2bo4bo12bo2bo5bo13bo3b
o2b3o$b2o2b2o9bo7bo13bo7bo12bo3bobobo14bo3bobobo15bo7bo13bo7bo15bo7bo
12bo5bobo14bo3bobo2bo$16bo3b2obo14bo7bo12bo22bo3bo19bo7bo13bo7bo15bo4b
obo13bo3bo18bo8bo$17bobo19bobobobo14bobo19bo24bob2o3bo14bobo4bo15bo3bo
16bo3bo19bobo5bo$83bobo25bobo22bo15bo20bo28bobo$133bobo17bobo18bobo12$
12bo15bo22bo$12b3o11b3o5bo14b3o$15bo9bo8b3o11bo$14b2o9b2o10bo10b2o$36b
2o2$2o2b2o10b3o4bo22bo$2bo3bo9bo2bo2b3o13b3o4b3o$bo3b2o9bo4b2obo13bo2b
o2b2obo$o5bo9bo3b4o14bo5b3o$b2ob2o10bo5b2o14bo3bo2b2o$17bobo18bo$39bob
o5$159b2o$135b2o21bo2bo$61b2o46b2o23bo2bo20bo2bo2b2o$16b2o20b2o20bo2bo
22b2o20bo2bo22bo2bo2b2o17b2o3b2o5bo$15bo2bo11bo6bo2bo19bo2bo2b2o7bo9bo
2bo19bo2bo2b2o6bo12b2o3b2o27b3o$15bo2bo2b2o5b3o6bo2bo2b2o7bo8b2o3b2o5b
3o9bo2bo2b2o16b2o3b2o4b3o24bo20bo$16b2o3b2o4bo10b2o3b2o5b3o19bo13b2o3b
2o7bo18bo25b3o20b2o$27b2o20bo22b2o24b3o18b2o23bo$49b2o46bo46b2o$97b2o$
3obobo9b3o5b3o11b3o28b3o14b3o27b3o16b3o27b3o$2bobobo9bo2bo3bo2bo11bo2b
o4b3o12b3o4bo2bo14bo2bo25bo2bo16bo2bo20b3o3bo2bo$3ob3o9bo9bo11bo6bo2bo
12bo2bo6bo14bo7b3o21bo16bo6bo16bo2bo2bo$o5bo9bo3bobo3bo11bo3bo5bo12bo
5bo3bo14bo3bo2bo2bo12b3o2bo3bo16bo5b3o15bo5bo$3o13bo3bo5bo11bo3bobo3bo
12bo3bo5bo14bo3bo5bo12bo2bo5bo16bo5bob2o14bo3bobo$16bo6bobo12bo9bo12bo
3bo2bobo15bo5bo3bo12bo5bobo17bo6b3o14bo3bo$17bobo19bobo3bobo13bo25bobo
6bo12bo3bo22bo5b3o14bo5b3o$62bobo28bobo13bo3bo28b2o16bobo$109bo$110bob
o3$16b2o20b2o$15bo2bo18bo2bo$15bo2bo2b2o14bo2bo2b2o16b2o$16b2o3b2o5bo
9b2o3b2o15bo2bo$26b3o21bo9bo2bo2b2o6bo$25bo22b3o10b2o3b2o4b3o$25b2o20b
o23bo$47b2o22b2o2$3o2b2o9b3o4bo14b3o20b3o$2bobo11bo2bo2b3o13bo2bo19bo
2bo4bo$3ob3o9bo4b2obo13bo6bo15bo6b3o$o5bo9bo3b4o14bo5b3o14bo3bob2obo$
2o2b3o9bo3bob2o14bo5bob2o13bo3bob3o$16bo21bo6b3o13bo6b2o$17bobo19bo5b
3o14bobo$45b2o5$51bo$12bo15bo5bo14b3o$12b3o11b3o5b3o11bo$15bo9bo11bo
10b2o$14b2o9b2o9b2o3$3ob3o9b3o4bo14b3o5bo$2bobo11bo2bo2b3o13bo2bo3b3o$
bo2b3o9bo4b2obo13bo6bob2o$o3bobo9bo3b4o14bo7b3o$3o2b2o9bo4b3o14bo3bo3b
3o$17bobo2b2o15bobo4b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 24th, 2020, 3:24 pm

bubblegum wrote:
June 12th, 2020, 4:12 pm
Stuck on H-on-H #4.
My usual method in these cases is to post something so awful that somebody won't be able to resist improving it. Repeat time 481:

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x = 380, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
328.A3.2A$326.3A3.A$325.A3.2A.A$324.A2.A.A.A$324.A.2ABAB$325.A2.2BA$
326.3ABA$323.3A2.BA$323.A2.3A5B$326.A2.6B$324.A.A2.7B6.2A$324.2A3.6BA
B5.A$328.6BABA2.BA.A19.2A$292.2A34.6B2A2B.B2A19.B2A2B3.2A$292.A35.12B
22.4B2.B2AB$283.3B3.BA.A35.12B18.B.6B3.2B$283.3BDB.B2A36.12B8.A7.10B
2.2B$5.2C235.6C35.2BDBD2B36.2AB.9B9.3A5.11B2A2B$.4C.2C233.C5.C35.BD2B
D2B35.A.AB.10B11.A3.12B2A3B.B$.6C240.C35.2B2D3B35.A4.3B2A6B9.2A3.18B
2A$2.4C235.C4.C36.6B35.2A5.BABA7B8.4B2.15B.B2A$243.2C38.4B43.3BA9B9.
18B3.B$330.9B.4B8.18B$242.2C84.2D6B.B.6B.2B2.19B$.4C235.C4.C80.D.3BD
37B$6C240.C81.4BD27B.7B$4C.2C233.C5.C79.D5BD27B2.6B$4.2C235.6C27.B52.
6D28B.7B$273.4B49.36B.6B$272.4B52.11B.2B.9B7.9B$271.4B68.9B8.8B$270.
4B67.12B8.8B$257.2A10.4B67.14B8.7B8.A$258.A9.4B68.9B2.4B8.7B5.3A$256.
A10.4B63.2A2.13B.4B7.7B4.A$256.5A5.4B5.2A57.A2.5BA9B.4B5.8B4.2A$261.A
3.5B5.A55.2A.A.5BABA8B2.4B4.9B.4B$258.3AB2.7B.BA.A55.A2.3A.3BABA8B3.
4B2.13B$257.A.2B3.7B.B2A57.2A2.BA2B.BA11B2.4B3.12B$257.4A7B2D3B61.4A
2B3.3B3.2B.2A3.4B2.12B$255.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B61.A.4B.7B4.A5.4B2.11B$
254.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B59.A.A.2A3.2A.B.2A5.3A3.4B4.7B$254.2A.A.B3.10B59.
2A2.A5.A3.A8.A4.4B2.8B$257.A8.8B62.A.A.A.A.A.A.A12.12B$257.2A7.9B62.
2A.2A.A.A.2A11.14B$267.3B2.4B67.A.A12.17B$265.5B3.4B66.A.A12.18B$265.
2A7.4B66.A13.18B$266.A8.4B80.17B$263.3A10.4B25.3B51.3B.B3.7B.B2A$263.
A13.4B23.4B51.2A2.2B3.6B.BA.A$278.3B22.4B53.A.B2AB3.B.2B5.A$279.2B.B
19.4B51.3A3.2A5.2B6.2A$282.2B6.A10.4B52.A11.B2AB$282.3B5.3A7.4B66.2A$
282.4B7.A5.4B$283.4B5.2A4.4B$284.4B4.9B$285.4B5.6B$286.4B2.3BD4B$287.
7BD7B$288.6B3D5B$289.13B$290.10B.B2A$291.4B2AB3.BA.A$292.3B2AB6.A$
294.4B6.2A$294.3B$291.AB.2B$290.A.AB2AB$290.A.ABABAB$287.2A.A.A.A.A2.
A$287.A2.A2.2A.4A$289.2A4.A$295.A.A$296.2A!
Along similar lines, Goldtiger997's LifeWiki list has a red "No" under "eater" for 46P4H1V0, and that will never do.

The following has repeat time 885, which should be easy to beat, even with something that has a glider output (which would get rid of another red cell in that row of the table):

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x = 127, y = 321, rule = LifeHistory
92.2A$91.A.A$85.2A4.A$83.A2.A2.2A.4A$83.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$58.2A26.A.A.A.A
$57.A.A26.A.A.2A$51.2A4.A29.A$49.A2.A2.2A.4A$49.2A.A.A.A.A2.A38.2A$
52.A.A.A.A32.2A7.A$52.A.A.2A33.2A5.A.A$53.A44.2A2$66.2A22.3D$57.2A7.A
23.D$57.2A5.A.A24.D$64.2A2$56.3D29.2A$56.D32.A$57.D28.3A$86.A2$54.2A$
55.A$52.3A$52.A4$59.A$57.3A$56.A65.2A$55.A.A64.A$55.A.A66.A$56.A47.2A
14.5A$105.A13.A$105.A.A12.3A$106.2A15.A$111.2D7.4A$40.2A68.D.D2.2A3.A
3.2A$19.A20.2A70.D2.2A4.3A2.A$17.3A103.A.2A$16.A37.D68.A$15.A.A35.D
68.2A$15.A.A35.3D4.2A$16.A43.A.A$42.2A18.A51.2A$43.A9.2A7.2A50.A$42.A
10.2A60.3A$42.2A73.A$2A43.2A65.2A$2A40.2A.2A65.A$43.A66.A.A$41.A3.2A
63.2A$41.4A2.A58.A$20.2A22.A.A.A56.A.A$20.A.A18.2A.A2.A18.A38.A.A$2.
2A18.A19.A.A19.3A39.A$3.A9.2A7.2A17.A2.2A8.3D6.A$2.A10.2A26.A.A2.A.A
5.D8.2A53.2A$2.2A36.2A.2A2.2A4.3D62.A$5.2A109.A.A$2.2A.2A109.2A$3.A$.
A3.2A$.4A2.A87.2A$4.A.A.A70.2A15.A$.2A.A2.A18.A52.A16.A.A$2.A.A19.3A
50.A.A17.2A$.A2.2A8.3D6.A47.2A4.2A$.A.A2.A.A5.D8.2A46.2A$2A.2A2.2A4.
3D94.2A.A$110.2A.3A$116.A$44.C65.2A.3A$43.C.C65.A.A$44.2C65.A.A$112.A
2$87.A$87.3A8.3D7.2A$90.A8.D8.A.A$27.C61.2A8.3D8.A$7.2A17.C.C81.2A$6.
A.A17.C.C48.2A$6.A20.C50.A$5.2A71.A.A$17.2A49.A10.2A$17.2A47.3A$31.C
11.C21.A$30.3C9.3C20.2A$30.3C9.3C5.2A$51.A$30.4C.2C.2C.4C6.A.2A47.2A$
28.C.C5.C.C5.C.C5.A2.A23.D22.A.A$31.2C3.C.C3.2C9.2A24.D.D22.A$27.C2.C
2.3C3.3C2.C2.C20.2A9.3D22.2A$27.C.C15.C.C20.2A11.D10.2A3.2A$90.A2.A4.
A$90.3A5.A.A$99.2A$77.A3.2A7.3A$76.A.A3.A7.A2.A$75.A.A3.A10.2A$71.2A.
A.A3.A$71.2A.A2.4A.A$75.A.A3.2A$71.2A.2A.A.A$72.A.A3.A.3A$60.2A10.A.A
4.A2.A$60.2A11.A6.2A201$30.3A9.3A$31.A11.A2$30.A2.A.A3.A.A2.A$28.3A.
5A.5A.3A$28.2A2.3A.A.A.3A2.2A$27.3A15.3A$28.2A5.A3.A5.2A!
Was going to use Extrementhusiast's HWSS Heisenburp from 2013 to extract a couple of signals to do the cleanup, but it turned out that it would have had to be rebuilt pretty thoroughly to let an HWSS-on-HWSS get through. Looks like it could use a rebuild with modern technology anyway, of course --!

EDIT: There was an even older HWSS Heisenburp, from 2011, which had a fairly Rube Goldbergian reconstruction recipe. And yet it wasn't really all that terrible... I mean, five signals is pretty bad, but they only had to be sent in the correct order, not precisely synchronized, and the whole active mechanism was on one side of the HWSS lane -- though unfortunately the output went to the other side:

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x = 195, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
123.4B$122.4B$121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$84.A33.4B$84.3A30.4B$87.A28.4B$86.
2A27.4B$86.4B24.4B$88.3B22.4B$7B2A186B$5BA4BA184B$11BA183B$5BA5BA183B
$6B6A183B$195B$195B$95.4B6.4B.12B$96.4B4.4B2.4BD9B$97.4B2.4B3.3BDBDB
2D6B$98.8B4.3BDBDB2D8B$99.6B2.7BD12B$100.4B.25B$90.B2.38B$89.43B.B$
89.32B3C9B2A$87.30B2C2BC9B.B2A$87.30B2C3BC3B2.2B3.B$86.BA14B2.23B$86.
ABA10B7.22B$86.ABA8B5.11BD15B$87.A8B6.7B2CBDBD8B3.4B$87.10B4.7BCBCBDB
D7B5.4B$88.9B5.8BC2BD7B7.4B$89.8B5.20B7.4B$89.7B6.20B8.4B$90.5B6.20B
10.4B$92.2B6.22B10.4B$99.7B.16B10.4B$98.7B2.17B10.4B$90.2A5.7B5.7B3CB
.4B10.4B$89.B2AB3.7B6.8BC2B2.4B10.4B$90.2B3.7B6.7B3C2B3.4B10.4B$89.2B
3.7B6.13B4.4B10.4B$88.BA2B.7B6.4B4.7B4.4B10.4B$88.A.A8B6.4B5.8B4.4B
10.4B$89.A.7B6.4B7.8B4.4B10.4B$86.3A4.4B6.4B8.8B5.4B10.4B$86.A5.4B6.
4B8.6B2.B2A4.4B10.4B$91.4B6.4B9.7B.BA.A4.4B10.4B$90.4B6.4B11.6B4.A5.
4B10.4B$89.4B6.4B12.6B4.2A5.4B10.4B$88.4B6.4B13.6B12.4B10.4B$87.4B6.
4B13.8B12.4B10.4B$86.4B6.4B35.4B10.4B$85.4B6.4B37.4B10.4B$84.4B6.4B
39.4B10.4B$83.4B6.4B41.4B10.4B$82.4B6.4B43.4B10.4B$81.4B6.4B45.4B10.
4B$80.4B6.4B47.4B10.4B$79.4B6.4B49.4B10.4B$78.4B6.4B51.4B10.4B$77.4B
6.4B53.4B10.4B$76.4B6.4B55.4B10.4B$75.4B6.4B57.4B10.4B$74.4B6.4B59.4B
10.4B$73.4B6.4B61.4B10.4B$72.4B6.4B63.4B10.4B$71.4B6.4B65.4B10.4B$70.
4B6.4B67.4B10.4B$69.4B6.4B69.4B10.4B$68.4B6.4B71.4B10.4B$67.4B6.4B73.
4B10.4B$66.4B6.4B75.4B10.4B$65.4B6.4B77.4B10.4B$64.4B6.4B79.4B10.4B$
63.4B6.4B81.4B10.4B$62.4B6.4B83.4B10.4B$61.4B6.4B85.4B10.4B$60.4B6.4B
87.4B10.4B$59.4B6.4B89.4B10.4B$58.4B6.4B91.4B10.4B$57.4B6.4B93.4B10.
4B$56.4B6.4B95.4B10.4B$55.4B6.4B97.4B10.4B$54.4B6.4B99.4B10.4B$53.4B
6.4B101.4B10.4B$52.4B6.4B103.4B10.4B$51.4B6.4B105.4B10.4B$50.4B6.4B
107.4B10.4B$49.4B6.4B109.4B10.4B$48.4B6.4B111.4B10.4B$47.4B6.4B113.4B
10.4B$46.4B6.4B115.4B10.4B$45.4B6.4B117.4B10.4B$44.4B6.4B119.4B10.4B$
43.4B6.4B121.4B10.3B$42.4B6.4B123.4B10.2B$41.4B6.4B125.4B10.B$40.4B6.
4B127.4B$39.4B6.4B129.4B$38.4B6.4B131.4B$37.4B6.4B133.4B$36.4B6.4B
135.4B$35.4B6.4B137.4B$34.4B6.4B139.4B$33.4B6.4B141.4B$32.4B6.4B143.
4B$31.4B6.2C2B145.2B2C$30.4B6.CBCB147.BCBC$29.4B6.3BC149.C2B!
Seems like modern technology ought to allow for some kind of improvement here. Maybe just synchronizing these three gliders -- that would put everything on one side of the track, so the Heisenburp would be compatible with all kinds of HWSS flotillas.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by yujh » June 24th, 2020, 8:27 pm

dvgrn wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 3:24 pm
bubblegum wrote:
June 12th, 2020, 4:12 pm
Stuck on H-on-H #4.
My usual method in these cases is to post something so awful that somebody won't be able to resist improving it. Repeat time 481:

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x = 380, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
328.A3.2A$326.3A3.A$325.A3.2A.A$324.A2.A.A.A$324.A.2ABAB$325.A2.2BA$
326.3ABA$323.3A2.BA$323.A2.3A5B$326.A2.6B$324.A.A2.7B6.2A$324.2A3.6BA
B5.A$328.6BABA2.BA.A19.2A$292.2A34.6B2A2B.B2A19.B2A2B3.2A$292.A35.12B
22.4B2.B2AB$283.3B3.BA.A35.12B18.B.6B3.2B$283.3BDB.B2A36.12B8.A7.10B
2.2B$5.2C235.6C35.2BDBD2B36.2AB.9B9.3A5.11B2A2B$.4C.2C233.C5.C35.BD2B
D2B35.A.AB.10B11.A3.12B2A3B.B$.6C240.C35.2B2D3B35.A4.3B2A6B9.2A3.18B
2A$2.4C235.C4.C36.6B35.2A5.BABA7B8.4B2.15B.B2A$243.2C38.4B43.3BA9B9.
18B3.B$330.9B.4B8.18B$242.2C84.2D6B.B.6B.2B2.19B$.4C235.C4.C80.D.3BD
37B$6C240.C81.4BD27B.7B$4C.2C233.C5.C79.D5BD27B2.6B$4.2C235.6C27.B52.
6D28B.7B$273.4B49.36B.6B$272.4B52.11B.2B.9B7.9B$271.4B68.9B8.8B$270.
4B67.12B8.8B$257.2A10.4B67.14B8.7B8.A$258.A9.4B68.9B2.4B8.7B5.3A$256.
A10.4B63.2A2.13B.4B7.7B4.A$256.5A5.4B5.2A57.A2.5BA9B.4B5.8B4.2A$261.A
3.5B5.A55.2A.A.5BABA8B2.4B4.9B.4B$258.3AB2.7B.BA.A55.A2.3A.3BABA8B3.
4B2.13B$257.A.2B3.7B.B2A57.2A2.BA2B.BA11B2.4B3.12B$257.4A7B2D3B61.4A
2B3.3B3.2B.2A3.4B2.12B$255.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B61.A.4B.7B4.A5.4B2.11B$
254.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B59.A.A.2A3.2A.B.2A5.3A3.4B4.7B$254.2A.A.B3.10B59.
2A2.A5.A3.A8.A4.4B2.8B$257.A8.8B62.A.A.A.A.A.A.A12.12B$257.2A7.9B62.
2A.2A.A.A.2A11.14B$267.3B2.4B67.A.A12.17B$265.5B3.4B66.A.A12.18B$265.
2A7.4B66.A13.18B$266.A8.4B80.17B$263.3A10.4B25.3B51.3B.B3.7B.B2A$263.
A13.4B23.4B51.2A2.2B3.6B.BA.A$278.3B22.4B53.A.B2AB3.B.2B5.A$279.2B.B
19.4B51.3A3.2A5.2B6.2A$282.2B6.A10.4B52.A11.B2AB$282.3B5.3A7.4B66.2A$
282.4B7.A5.4B$283.4B5.2A4.4B$284.4B4.9B$285.4B5.6B$286.4B2.3BD4B$287.
7BD7B$288.6B3D5B$289.13B$290.10B.B2A$291.4B2AB3.BA.A$292.3B2AB6.A$
294.4B6.2A$294.3B$291.AB.2B$290.A.AB2AB$290.A.ABABAB$287.2A.A.A.A.A2.
A$287.A2.A2.2A.4A$289.2A4.A$295.A.A$296.2A!
I know this is truly boring,

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x = 268, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
216.A3.2A$214.3A3.A$213.A3.2A.A$212.A2.A.A.A$212.A.2ABAB$213.A2.2BA$
214.3ABA$211.3A2.BA$211.A2.3A5B$214.A2.6B$212.A.A2.7B6.2A$212.2A3.6BA
B5.A$216.6BABA2.BA.A19.2A$208.2A6.6B2A2B.B2A19.B2A2B3.2A$208.A7.12B
22.4B2.B2AB$199.3B3.BA.A7.12B18.B.6B3.2B$199.3BDB.B2A8.12B8.A7.10B2.
2B$5.2C151.6C35.2BDBD2B8.2AB.9B9.3A5.11B2A2B$.4C.2C149.C5.C35.BD2BD2B
7.A.AB.10B11.A3.12B2A3B.B$.6C156.C35.2B2D3B7.A4.3B2A6B9.2A3.18B2A$2.
4C151.C4.C36.6B7.2A5.BABA7B8.4B2.15B.B2A$159.2C38.4B15.3BA9B9.18B3.B$
218.9B.4B8.18B$158.2C56.2D6B.B.6B.2B2.19B$.4C151.C4.C52.D.3BD37B$6C
156.C53.4BD27B.7B$4C.2C149.C5.C51.D5BD27B2.6B$4.2C151.6C27.B24.6D28B.
7B$189.4B21.36B.6B$188.4B24.11B.2B.9B7.9B$187.4B40.9B8.8B$186.4B39.
12B8.8B$173.2A10.4B39.14B8.7B8.A$174.A9.4B40.9B2.4B8.7B5.3A$172.A10.
4B35.2A2.13B.4B7.7B4.A$172.5A5.4B5.2A29.A2.5BA9B.4B5.8B4.2A$177.A3.5B
5.A2.A11.4B9.2A.A.5BABA8B2.4B4.9B.4B$174.3AB2.7B.BA.A.2A10.7B7.A2.3A.
3BABA8B3.4B2.13B$173.A.2B3.7B.B2A.A11.4B12.2A2.BA2B.BA11B2.4B3.12B$
173.4A7B2D3B3.A10.4B15.4A2B3.3B3.2B.2A3.4B2.12B$171.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B
3.3A7.4B16.A.4B.7B4.A5.4B2.11B$170.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B6.A5.4B15.A.A.2A3.
2A.B.2A5.3A3.4B4.7B$170.2A.A.B3.10B5.2A4.4B16.2A2.A5.A3.A8.A4.4B2.8B$
173.A8.8B4.9B21.A.A.A.A.A.A.A12.12B$173.2A7.9B5.6B23.2A.2A.A.A.2A11.
14B$183.3B2.4B2.3BD4B29.A.A12.17B$181.5B3.7BD7B27.A.A12.18B$181.2A7.
6B3D5B28.A13.18B$182.A8.13B43.17B$179.3A10.10B.B2A41.3B.B3.7B.B2A$
179.A13.4B2AB3.BA.A40.2A2.2B3.6B.BA.A$194.3B2AB6.A41.A.B2AB3.B.2B5.A$
196.4B6.2A37.3A3.2A5.2B6.2A$196.3B46.A11.B2AB$193.AB.2B60.2A$192.A.AB
2AB$192.A.ABABAB$189.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$189.A2.A2.2A.4A$191.2A4.A$197.A.A$
198.2A!
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by bubblegum » June 24th, 2020, 8:47 pm

(repeat time 313)îîî
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Kazyan » June 24th, 2020, 8:53 pm

An eater capable of peeling an outermost HWSS from some flotillae, including HWSS-on-HWSS #4. Found with CatForce.

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x = 53, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
22b2o6b2o$22bo7bo$23b3ob2obo$25bobobo3$28b2o$28bobo$2b6o21b2o$bo5bo$7b
o$bo4bo$3b2o2$2b2o$o4bo44b2o$6bo42bo2bo$o5bo42bo2bo$b6o43b2o3$49b2o$
49b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Freywa » June 24th, 2020, 10:48 pm

Kazyan wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 8:53 pm
An eater capable of peeling an outermost HWSS from some flotillae, including HWSS-on-HWSS #4. Found with CatForce.
Two variants of the reduced eater, both with repeat time 36:

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x = 36, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
22b2o6b2o$22bo7bo$23b3ob2obo$25bobobo3$28b2o$28bobo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$bo5b
o11bo5bo$7bo17bo$bo4bo12bo4bo$3b2o16b2o9b2o$32b2o$2b2o16b2o$o4bo12bo4b
o$6bo17bo8b2o$o5bo11bo5bo7bo2bo$b6o12b6o7bo2bo$33b2o14$33b2o$3b6o12b6o
5bo2bo$2bo5bo11bo5bo5bo2bo$8bo17bo6b2o$2bo4bo12bo4bo$4b2o16b2o$32b2o$
3b2o16b2o9b2o$bo4bo12bo4bo$7bo17bo$bo5bo11bo5bo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$28bobo$
28b2o3$25bobobo$23b3ob2obo$22bo7bo$22b2o6b2o!
The bottom one looks nicer.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by bubblegum » June 24th, 2020, 11:10 pm

pretty trivial optimisation

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$2bob2ob2obo$2b2obobobo3$2b2o4b2o$o4bo2bobo$6bo2b2o$o5bo$b6o!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Kazyan » June 24th, 2020, 11:32 pm

46P4H1V0 eater with a 119-tick repeat time:

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x = 56, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$31b2o6$27b2o$27b2o23b2o$52bo$50bobo$50b2o$b3o26b2o$o3b2o26b3o$7b
o23b4obobo$o3bo3b2o21b2obo3bo$o3bo2bo23b2obobobo15b2o$4b2o25b3obo15b2o
2bo$o3bo25b3o17bo2b2o$o3bo26bo2bo16bo$2b3o27b3o17b3o$55bo$2b3o27b3o17b
3o$o3bo26bo2bo16bo$o3bo25b3o17bo2b2o$4b2o25b3obo15b2o2bo$o3bo2bo23b2ob
obobo15b2o$o3bo3b2o21b2obo3bo$7bo23b4obobo$o3b2o26b3o$b3o26b2o$50b2o$
50bobo$52bo$27b2o23b2o$27b2o6$31b2o$31b2o!
Dave's method is effective.
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Freywa » June 25th, 2020, 1:16 am

Kazyan wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 11:32 pm
46P4H1V0 eater with a 119-tick repeat time:
Which means this SW-2 variant is important now:

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x = 53, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D2.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$D3.D.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$D3.D.
D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D4.4D$5D2.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D3.D$D3.D5.D.D.D.
D9.D5.D5.D5.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D3.D$D3.D2.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D
3.5D2.3D3.4D13$28.2A$26.2B2AB$26.4B$25.4B$26.5B$26.7B$26.7B$25.7B2A$
23.9B2A$21.10B.B$21.2BD6B$20.3BDBD4B$21.2B3D4B$20.5BD4B$19.10B$18.4B$
17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$15.3B$15.2B$15.B!
Here is my hastily assembled collection of smallish (no heavy reliance on staged recovery) spaceship eaters:

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x = 353, y = 389, rule = LifeHistory
71.C$70.C.C$70.C.C$69.2C.3C$75.C$69.2C.3C$39.A19.A9.2C.C$39.4A16.4A$
41.2A18.2A$44.A19.A212.2A$41.4A16.4A209.A2.2A$45.A19.A207.A.A4.A36.2A
$41.A2.3A14.A2.3A208.A5.2A37.A$43.3A17.3A207.2A5.2A32.A$44.A19.A205.A
2.A40.A10.2A$39.A.3A15.A.3A251.4A.2A3.2A$39.2A2.A15.2A2.A208.A44.2A2.
A.A4.A$40.3A17.3A207.2A50.2A5.2A$3.D4.D2.3D26.A19.A212.A48.A5.2A$2.2D
4.D.D3.D27.A19.A211.2A11.2A33.2A$3.D3.D6.D25.A.A17.A.A210.2A13.A32.2A
$3.D3.D5.D29.A19.A219.3A5.A$3.D3.D4.D27.A.A17.A.A218.A2.2A3.A.A34.4A$
3.D2.D4.D30.A19.A219.2A6.2A32.7A$2.3D.D3.5D25.A19.A181.A38.2A41.A4.2A
4.2A$40.3A17.3A180.A36.2A43.3A3.2A3.A$39.2A2.A15.2A2.A146.D4.D3.D21.
3A36.2A45.A11.A$39.A.3A15.A.3A145.2D4.D2.2D61.A14.2C31.A2.2A3.A.A$44.
A19.A145.D3.D2.D.D26.A37.A11.C.C33.A5.2A$43.3A17.3A144.D3.D.D2.D24.A.
A35.A.A13.C31.A.A8.2C$41.A2.3A14.A2.3A143.D3.D.5D24.2A6.D.D.D25.2A13.
2C.3D.3D23.2A8.C.C2.3D.3D$45.A19.A144.D2.D5.D28.2C3.D.D.D28.2C15.D.D.
D26.2C7.C4.D.D.D$41.4A16.4A144.3D.D5.D28.C.C2.D.3D28.C.C12.3D.3D26.C.
C6.2C.3D.3D$44.A19.A185.C2.D3.D30.C14.D3.D28.C11.D3.D$41.2A18.2A187.
2C.D3.D30.2C11.3D.3D28.2C8.3D.3D$39.4A16.4A$39.A19.A4.2C.C$64.2C.3C$
70.C.D.D.3D$64.2C.3C2.D.D.D.D$65.C.C4.3D.D.D$65.C.C6.D.D.D$66.C7.D.3D
17$39.A2.A99.2C$.3D4.D3.D30.A3.4A25.5A3.5A27.6A15.2A2.C2.C$D3.D3.D2.
2D26.A3.A2.A3.A24.A4.A2.A4.A26.A5.A11.4A.2A.C2.C$4.D2.D2.D.D27.4A6.A
6.D.D.D18.A7.A6.D.3D21.A11.6A3.2C2.3D.3D$3.D3.D.D2.D33.A2.A2.2C3.D.D.
D13.A3.A3.A3.A2.2C3.D.D17.A4.A13.4A10.D.D$2.D4.D.5D38.C.C2.D.3D15.A7.
A4.C.C2.D.3D17.2A27.3D.3D$.D4.D5.D41.C2.D3.D30.C2.D.D.D41.2C5.D3.D$5D
.D5.D41.2C.D3.D30.2C.D.3D41.2C3.3D.3D4$265.4A$121.2A11.6A123.2A4.2A$
117.4A.2A9.A5.A123.A5.2A$117.6A16.A2.2C119.A.A.2A$118.4A11.A4.A2.C.C
119.A$135.2A4.2C120.A3.A$262.A4.A$146.3D.3D106.A3.3A$135.2C.C.C.C5.D
3.D106.A4.2A$135.C.2C.2C.C2.3D.3D105.2A16.A$143.C4.D3.D104.A16.A2.A$
143.2C.3D.3D102.3A16.A2.A.2A$270.A2.A5.A$269.A4.5A$254.A18.A.A.A$249.
5A.A17.5A$249.A5.2A11.A7.A5.2C$210.D4.D.5D26.A2.A3.2A15.4A6.2C$105.2C
102.2D4.D.D30.A20.2A3.A$64.2C39.2C5.2C96.D3.D2.D30.A2.A.2A13.A$64.C
47.C97.D3.D3.3D27.A2.A12.A2.A$62.C.C45.C.C97.D3.D6.D27.2A10.A4.A$45.A
12.A3.2C22.A.2A14.A.2A2.2C98.D2.D3.D3.D27.2A9.A5.A13.2C$42.5A12.2A23.
A5.A11.4A2.A100.3D.D4.3D58.C2.C2.2C$39.A.2A3.2A4.A2.3A2.A26.2A.2A10.
2A.A2.A156.A13.C.C4.C2.C$38.A7.A6.3A4.A22.4A.3A8.2A.2A3.2A151.A.2A.A
14.C5.C.C.C$39.A.A2.2A7.2A2.3A29.A16.A151.2A.A.A.2A16.2C.C2.C$261.3A.
A17.C2.C$39.A.A2.2A7.2A2.3A29.A16.A150.A3.A.2A15.C4.C$38.A7.A6.3A4.A
22.4A.3A8.2A.2A3.2A149.2A.3A10.2C4.5C$39.A.2A3.2A4.A2.3A2.A26.2A.2A
10.2A.A2.A152.A7.2C.C2.C$42.5A12.2A6.3D.3D10.A5.A11.4A2.A6.3D.3D137.
2A7.C.C.3C7.C$45.A12.A3.2C5.D3.D12.A.2A14.A.2A2.2C5.D.D139.A8.C.C10.C
.C.D.D.3D$62.C.C2.3D3.D36.C.C2.3D.3D144.3C.5C7.C2.D.D.D.D$64.C2.D5.D
38.C4.D3.D136.2C5.C3.C4.C10.3D.3D$64.2C.3D3.D31.2C5.2C.3D.3D136.2C5.
2C2.C.C15.D3.D$105.2C163.2C15.D.3D20$88.2C$88.C$86.C.C$38.A5.A28.A8.A
3.2C$39.2A4.2A27.2A5.A.A$39.2A4.2A27.2A7.2A$38.A5.A28.A8.A$40.A5.A28.
A7.2A$39.3A3.3A25.A.A6.3A$41.A5.A27.A33.A11.A$41.2A4.2A2.2C19.A.A6.A.
A26.2A8.A.A152.2A$40.A5.A4.2C19.A.A6.3A26.2A8.A2.A151.2A$39.A.A3.A.A
22.4A35.A.A10.A$3.D4.D2.3D25.A.A3.A.A21.A.A6.3A39.4A$2.2D4.D.D3.D26.A
5.A21.A.A6.3A4.2C21.A.A.2A.A5.A.2A.A$3.D3.D6.D24.A5.A26.A12.C.C21.3A.
2A.A3.3A4.2A137.A$3.D3.D4.2D26.2A4.2A23.2A7.2A5.C25.2A.2A9.2A136.A.A$
3.D3.D6.D25.2A4.2A6.D.3D11.A.A7.2A5.2C.3D.3D12.3A.2A.A3.3A4.2A6.3D.D.
D$3.D2.D3.D3.D24.A5.A3.2C3.D.D.D12.A7.A3.2C7.D.D13.A.A.2A.A5.A.2A.A3.
2C5.D.D.D118.A.2A4.A14.2A$2.3D.D4.3D35.C.C2.D.3D24.C.C4.3D.3D23.4A6.C
.C2.3D.3D117.A7.A15.2A$51.C2.D.D.D26.C4.D3.D.D12.A.A10.A9.C4.D3.D121.
6A$51.2C.D.3D26.2C3.3D.3D13.2A8.A2.A8.2C.3D3.D118.2A3.2A$110.2A8.A.A$
51.D3.D.D29.D3.3D.D13.A11.A129.A.A.2A$50.D4.D2.D27.D6.D2.D153.A6.A$
50.D4.D2.D27.D4.3D2.D154.A4.A$50.D4.D2.D27.D4.D4.D$51.D.D.D.D29.D.D.
3D.D153.2A2.2A$244.2A3.A.A$243.A2.A.A2.A19.3A$243.3A2.2A.A19.A2.A$
244.2A3.2A20.A13.3A9.2A$284.A2.2A7.2A$274.A.A.2A4.A2.A.2A5.2A2.A$275.
2A3.A6.A.A.2A7.A$242.2A32.4A7.A.A2.A$242.2A27.3A3.2A8.A4.A2.A$287.A3.
A3.A.A$288.3A2$120.2C$120.2C$307.2A$250.2A12.A42.2A$250.2A12.A$269.3A
$74.2C194.A23.2A$74.C41.2C144.A6.3A22.A.2A12.A$71.2C.C41.2C23.2C119.
4A4.5A13.A3.A.A.A.A9.4A$70.C2.C67.C119.A3.4A.2A19.A.A3.3A7.2A.2A6.2C$
71.2C66.C.C120.A4.2A17.A3.4A5.2A5.A4.A3.2A.2C$47.A19.A.A69.2C129.2A
14.A2.3A3.2A2.3A5.4A3.2A$44.A3.2A15.A3.A31.3A26.2A152.2A.2A6.2A2.2A7.
3A$43.2A2.A17.2A2.A30.A3.2A26.3A150.A.2A10.A$43.2A20.A.A39.A23.4A.A.A
145.A2.A$44.A20.A34.A3.A3.2A21.2A.A3.A145.A4.A$44.2A18.2A34.A3.A2.A
23.2A.A.A.A4.2C142.3A$3.D4.D3.D31.A18.A.A38.2A25.3A.A4.2C2.C139.2A.3A
36.2C$2.2D4.D2.2D32.A54.A3.A25.3A6.C2.2C182.2C$3.D3.D2.D.D32.3A18.2A
32.A3.A26.A2.A5.C$3.D3.D.D2.D31.A19.A2.2A33.3A27.3A6.3C138.2A$3.D3.D.
5D28.2A4.A15.A2.2A75.C134.A.3A$3.D2.D5.D51.2A.2A33.3A27.3A6.3C136.A
34.A$2.3D.D5.D33.2A15.5A32.A3.A26.A2.A5.C138.A34.A.A$41.A4.A15.A.A35.
A3.A25.3A6.C2.2C64.3D4.D2.3D3.3D86.A$42.2A.A15.A3.2A37.2A25.3A.A4.2C
2.C62.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D84.A2.A$43.A.A18.A.A33.A3.A2.A23.2A.A.A.A4.2C
62.D3.D2.D2.D3.D.D81.5A2.A2.A$42.3A15.A3.A35.A3.A3.2A21.2A.A3.A69.3D
3.D3.4D.4D47.2A29.A6.A2.A.3A$38.2A2.A17.A2.A43.A23.4A.A.A68.D3.D2.D6.
D.D3.D46.2A30.4A3.2A$40.A19.A.A37.A3.2A26.3A72.D3.D.D3.D3.D.D3.D$79.
3D.3D15.3A26.2A12.D.D.3D57.3D2.D4.3D3.3D$74.2C3.D.D3.D53.2C3.D.D.D.D$
74.C.C2.3D.3D53.C.C2.D.D.3D$76.C2.D.D3.D55.C2.D.D3.D$76.2C.3D.3D30.2C
23.2C.D.D.3D$116.2C164.2A$282.2A12.2A25.2C$295.A27.C.C$295.A29.C$295.
7A23.2C$296.A5.A$120.2C175.3A2.A$120.2C175.A4.A$298.A2.A$298.3A2$289.
2C$289.2C$315.3D.3D.3D$310.2C5.D.D5.D$310.C.C2.3D.3D.3D$312.C4.D.D.D.
D$312.2C.3D.3D.3D10$128.C$127.C.C$127.C.C$126.2C.3C$132.C$126.2C.3C$
119.2A2.A2.2C.C$101.3A20.A$98.3A2.A15.A4.A$99.5A17.2A.A$99.2A21.3A.2A
$106.2A15.6A$105.A.A15.2A4.A$100.A3.2A.A15.3A.2A$97.A.A6.A12.A6.2A$
97.A.7A13.7A2$97.A.7A13.7A$97.A.A6.A12.A6.2A$100.A3.2A.A15.3A.2A$105.
A.A15.2A4.A$47.A58.2A15.6A$46.A.2A7.A41.2A21.3A.2A$49.3A4.2A.2A38.5A
17.2A.A$.3D4.D.5D34.A2.A4.A.A.A2.2C32.3A2.A15.A4.A$D3.D3.D.D42.A3.A3.
2A2.C35.3A20.A$4.D2.D2.D35.A2.A2.A3.A2.A.A2.C54.2A2.A2.2C.C$3.D3.D3.
3D32.A.4A5.A.2A4.3C58.2C.3C$2.D4.D6.D30.3A.A17.C.3D.3D56.C.3D.3D$.D4.
D3.D3.D30.3A7.2A14.D3.D50.2C.3C2.D5.D$5D.D4.3D33.2A4.3A.A11.3D.3D51.C
.C4.3D.3D$42.A.2A2.A3.3A3.A3.2C5.D5.D51.C.C6.D3.D$43.3A2.A6.A.A4.2C5.
3D.3D52.C5.3D.3D$44.A.2A8.A28$49.A13.A$46.5A9.5A$3.D4.D.5D28.A.A5.A5.
A.A5.A$2.2D4.D5.D29.A.2A2.A7.A.2A2.A$3.D3.D5.D34.2A12.2A$3.D3.D5.D29.
A13.A$3.D3.D4.D29.2A.A10.2A.A$3.D2.D5.D30.A2.A10.A2.A$2.3D.D5.D30.A2.
A10.A2.A6.3D.3D$44.2A12.2A2.2C3.D.D.D.D$62.C.C2.3D.3D$64.C4.D.D.D$64.
2C.3D.3D24$49.A9.A2.A$47.2A.A12.A$46.A4.A6.A4.A$46.2A2.A6.2A4.A$44.A.
A.2A7.2A.A.A2.2C$42.A2.A8.A10.C.C$.3D4.D.5D27.A10.2A2.A9.C$D3.D3.D5.D
27.A.A9.A2.2A8.2C$4.D2.D5.D29.2A.2A5.2A4.A$3.D3.D5.D29.2A.2A5.2A4.A
10.D.D.D.D$2.D4.D4.D29.A.A9.A2.2A8.2C.D.D.D.D$.D4.D5.D29.A10.2A2.A9.C
2.3D.3D$5D.D5.D29.A2.A8.A10.C.C4.D3.D$44.A.A.2A7.2A.A.A2.2C5.D3.D$46.
2A2.A6.2A4.A$46.A4.A6.A4.A$47.2A.A12.A$49.A9.A2.A21$129.C$127.3C$126.
C$126.2C$142.2C$142.C$98.A2.A20.2A19.C$75.C21.A23.4A17.2C$73.3C33.2A.
2A6.2A.2A7.2A7.C$72.C27.3A5.A3.4A4.2A2.2A5.A.5A3.3C$73.C25.A2.3A3.A3.
4A3.3A10.2A4.2A4.C$71.C.C21.A3.A3.A.A2.2A9.3A4.3A3.A10.2C$47.A.2A12.
2A6.2C22.A3.A3.A.A2.2A9.3A4.3A3.A$3.D4.D2.D3.3D28.A6.A8.A.5A30.A2.3A
3.A3.4A3.3A10.2A4.2A$2.2D4.D.2D2.D3.D26.2A3.A2.A9.2A4.2A29.3A5.A3.4A
4.2A2.2A5.A.5A$3.D3.D3.D2.D3.D23.2A.A5.2A5.2A3.A45.2A.2A6.2A.2A7.2A$
3.D3.D3.D2.D.D.D23.2A.A5.2A5.2A3.A33.A23.4A$3.D3.D3.D2.D3.D26.2A3.A2.
A9.2A4.2A27.A2.A20.2A$3.D2.D4.D2.D3.D27.A6.A8.A.5A$2.3D.D3.3D2.3D29.A
.2A12.2A$130.C$71.D.3D.3D47.C.C.C2.3D.3D.3D$66.2C3.D.D3.D.D45.3C.2C5.
D3.D.D.D$66.C4.D.3D.3D44.C9.3D.3D.3D$67.3C.D3.D.D.D45.3C.4C.D3.D5.D$
69.C.D.3D.3D47.C.C2.C.3D.3D.3D!
Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by yujh » June 25th, 2020, 4:58 am

Freywa wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 10:48 pm
Kazyan wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 8:53 pm
An eater capable of peeling an outermost HWSS from some flotillae, including HWSS-on-HWSS #4. Found with CatForce.
Two variants of the reduced eater, both with repeat time 36:

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x = 36, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
22b2o6b2o$22bo7bo$23b3ob2obo$25bobobo3$28b2o$28bobo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$bo5b
o11bo5bo$7bo17bo$bo4bo12bo4bo$3b2o16b2o9b2o$32b2o$2b2o16b2o$o4bo12bo4b
o$6bo17bo8b2o$o5bo11bo5bo7bo2bo$b6o12b6o7bo2bo$33b2o14$33b2o$3b6o12b6o
5bo2bo$2bo5bo11bo5bo5bo2bo$8bo17bo6b2o$2bo4bo12bo4bo$4b2o16b2o$32b2o$
3b2o16b2o9b2o$bo4bo12bo4bo$7bo17bo$bo5bo11bo5bo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$28bobo$
28b2o3$25bobobo$23b3ob2obo$22bo7bo$22b2o6b2o!
The bottom one looks nicer.
The repeat time is 35, if I’m not mistaken.
There’s also a faster eater of HWSS on LifeWiki. https://www.conwaylife.com/w/images/0/ ... eaters.png
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Sokwe » June 25th, 2020, 5:43 am

yujh wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 4:58 am
Freywa wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 10:48 pm
Kazyan wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 8:53 pm
An eater capable of peeling an outermost HWSS from some flotillae, including HWSS-on-HWSS #4. Found with CatForce.
Two variants of the reduced eater, both with repeat time 36:

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x = 36, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
22b2o6b2o$22bo7bo$23b3ob2obo$25bobobo3$28b2o$28bobo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$bo5b
o11bo5bo$7bo17bo$bo4bo12bo4bo$3b2o16b2o9b2o$32b2o$2b2o16b2o$o4bo12bo4b
o$6bo17bo8b2o$o5bo11bo5bo7bo2bo$b6o12b6o7bo2bo$33b2o14$33b2o$3b6o12b6o
5bo2bo$2bo5bo11bo5bo5bo2bo$8bo17bo6b2o$2bo4bo12bo4bo$4b2o16b2o$32b2o$
3b2o16b2o9b2o$bo4bo12bo4bo$7bo17bo$bo5bo11bo5bo$2b6o12b6o3b2o$28bobo$
28b2o3$25bobobo$23b3ob2obo$22bo7bo$22b2o6b2o!
The bottom one looks nicer.
The repeat time is 35, if I’m not mistaken.
There’s also a faster eater of HWSS on LifeWiki. https://www.conwaylife.com/w/images/0/ ... eaters.png
I love the new HWSS eater! Two copies of the standard spaceship eater also suffice for the HWSS on HWSS, although it's bulkier than the eater given above:

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x = 34, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
23bo$23b3o$26bo4bo$25b2o3bobo$30bobo$29b2ob2o$28bo4bo$3b2o23bob2o$bo4b
o20b2obo$7bo3b6o13bo$bo5bo2bo5bo13bob2o$2b6o8bo12b2ob2o$10bo4bo$12b2o
2$11b2o$9bo4bo$b6o8bo12b2ob2o$o5bo2bo5bo13bob2o$6bo3b6o13bo$o4bo20b2ob
o$2b2o23bob2o$27bo4bo$28b2ob2o$29bobo$24b2o3bobo$25bo4bo$22b3o$22bo!
This gives the minimum repeat time of 18.
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by yujh » June 25th, 2020, 8:11 am

The third is a bit harder

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x = 77, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
37.2A$36.A2.A$36.A2.A2.2A$.2A34.2A3.2A$A2.A$A2.A2.2A$.2A3.2A$44.2A3.
2A$44.2A4.3A$9.2A3.2A32.A4.A$9.2A4.3A26.5A.3A3.A$13.A4.A25.A5.A5.3A4.
2A$9.5A.3A29.3A9.A2.A.A$9.A5.A31.A10.A3.2A$12.3A37.2A4.2A16.A$12.A39.
A.A19.3A$17.2A35.A3.2A13.A$17.A.A25.A8.2A2.A14.2A$.3A15.A24.3A12.A$.A
2.A14.2A16.3A3.BA.2A10.2A11.A$.A7.3A25.A2.A4.3A16.3A3.3A$.A3.A2.A2.A
25.A4.B2.3A16.A2.A2.A.2A$.A3.A5.A25.A3.AB2.3A16.A6.3A$.A5.A3.A25.A3.A
3.2A17.A6.3A$2.A.A2.A3.A25.A5.B.B18.A6.3A$11.A26.A.A23.A6.2A$8.A.A54.
A.A!
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x = 23, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A3.2A$2.2A4.3A$6.A4.A$2.5A.3A$2.A5.A$5.3A$5.A$10.2A$10.A.A$12.A$3.
3C6.2A$5.C$4.C3$15.3C$15.C$16.C3$20.3C$2.3C15.C$.C2.C16.C$4.C$C3.C$C
3.C$4.C$.C.C4$2.3C$.C2.C$4.C$C3.C$4.C$.C.C3$2.3C$.C2.C$4.C$4.C$.C.C!
Last edited by yujh on June 26th, 2020, 2:40 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 25th, 2020, 5:58 pm

dvgrn wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 3:24 pm
The following has repeat time 885, which should be easy to beat, even with something that has a glider output (which would get rid of another red cell in that row of the table)...
Kazyan wrote:46P4H1V0 eater with a 119-tick repeat time...
...
Dave's method is effective.
Not entirely -- no modern HWSS Heisenburp or 46P4H1V0-to-X yet.

Let's see if the trick works again. That other red cell in the table is now green, thanks to the following version of my 885-tick monstrosity. Now it's repeat time 1192, but it gets a glider out:

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x = 419, y = 124, rule = LifeHistory
324.A19.2A$324.3A.A.2A12.2A$327.2A.A2.A.2A.A$324.2A4.A.2A.A.2A$324.A.
5A$309.A16.A4.A.2A$309.3A13.A3.A.A.2A$312.A11.A3.A.A$311.2A11.2A3.A5$
324.D11.2A$324.3D9.2A$324.D.D24.2A$326.D23.A2.A$307.2A42.2A.A$307.2A
45.A$354.2A$339.2A$340.A$337.3A$325.2A10.A$325.A.A$327.A$311.2C14.2A$
2A296.2C10.C2.C$3.A297.C9.2C$A297.C$.A.2A.2A291.C.2C.2C$2.A.A.3A291.C
.C.3C$2.A.A.2A292.C.C.2C$.A2.A294.C2.C$.A297.C$.A2.A294.C2.C$2.3A295.
3C2$2.3A295.3C$.A2.A294.C2.C$.A297.C35.A19.2A$.A2.A294.C2.C32.3A.A.2A
12.2A$2.A.A.2A292.C.C.2C32.2A.A2.A.2A.A$2.A.A.3A291.C.C.3C13.C14.2A4.
A.2A.A.2A$.A.2A.2A291.C.2C.2C13.C.C13.A.5A$A297.C20.2C16.A4.A.2A$3.A
297.C34.A3.A.A.2A$2A296.2C35.A3.A.A$335.2A3.A5$335.D11.2A$335.3D9.2A$
335.D.D24.2A$337.D23.A2.A$362.2A.A$365.A$365.2A$350.2A$351.A$348.3A$
336.2A10.A$336.A.A$289.A48.A$287.3A48.2A$286.A$285.A.A$285.A.A$286.A
93.2A$325.2A53.A$325.2A55.A$362.2A14.5A$363.A13.A$270.2A91.A.A12.3A
33.2A$270.2A92.2A15.A32.A$326.2A41.2D7.4A34.A$326.A41.D.D2.2A3.A3.2A
12.2A14.5A$327.3A40.D2.2A4.3A2.A12.A13.A$290.2A37.A51.A.2A12.A.A12.3A
$290.A.A88.A16.2A15.A$292.A17.2A19.A48.2A21.2D7.4A$283.2A7.2A16.2A12.
2A.A.3A70.D.D2.2A3.A3.2A$283.2A32.A.2A.A2.A.2A75.D2.2A4.3A2.A$317.2A.
A.2A.A4.2A40.2A41.A.2A$273.A.2A48.5A.A40.A42.A$271.3A.2A44.2A.A4.A43.
3A38.2A$270.A50.2A.A.A3.A44.A$271.3A.2A48.A.A3.A$273.2A2.A48.A3.2A74.
2A$276.A.A127.A$273.3A.A.A16.A49.A60.3A$272.A2.A2.A15.3A47.3A62.A$
271.A.A.A8.3D6.A49.A$270.A.A2.2A7.D8.2A23.2A11.D11.2A$270.A.A.A2.A.A
3.3D32.2A9.3D$271.2A.2A2.2A23.2A24.D.D$302.A2.A23.D$301.A.2A$301.A$
272.2A26.2A75.A$273.A41.2A38.2A18.3A$273.A.A39.A38.A2.A16.A$274.2A40.
3A36.2A17.2A$318.A11.2A$331.A$328.3A6.A.2A17.2A12.D$328.A6.3A.2A17.A
14.D$334.A24.3A9.3D$335.3A.2A20.A$337.A.A24.2A$337.A.A23.A.A5.2A$338.
A10.2A12.A7.2A$349.A12.2A$288.2A60.3A$288.2A62.A23.A$372.2A.A.A$371.A
.A.A.A$368.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$368.4A.2A2.A2.A$372.A4.2A$370.A.A$370.2A!
EDIT: Well, the trick works at least a little bit. 101x167, repeat time 940, based on Kazyan's eater, improvements no doubt possible:

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x = 301, y = 167, rule = LifeHistory
271.2A$270.A.A$264.2A4.A$262.A2.A2.2A.4A$262.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$265.A.A.A.
A$265.A.A.2A$266.A2$279.2A$270.2A7.A$270.2A5.A.A$277.2A2$269.3D$269.D
$270.D3$267.2A$268.A$265.3A$265.A6$296.2A$296.A$298.A$278.2A14.5A$
279.A13.A$269.2A8.A.A12.3A$269.2A9.2A15.A$285.2D7.4A$284.D.D2.2A3.A3.
2A$286.D2.2A4.3A2.A$297.A.2A$297.A$296.2A3$288.2A$288.A$218.A64.2A4.
3A$218.3A62.A.A5.A$221.A63.A$220.2A63.2A3$212.2A$212.A$209.2A.A60.3D$
209.A2.3A4.2A2.D40.2A8.D$210.2A3.A3.2A2.D.D39.A6.3D$212.4A7.2D37.3A$
212.A15.2A32.A$213.3A12.A.A$216.A13.A$211.5A14.2A$211.A$213.A$212.2A
8$272.2A$209.A62.2A$209.3A$212.A50.2A.A7.D$211.2A50.A.2A6.3D$272.2D2.
D2$203.2A$203.A$200.2A.A$200.A2.3A4.2A2.D$201.2A3.A3.2A2.D.D51.A$203.
4A7.2D51.A.A$203.A15.2A46.2A$204.3A12.A.A$207.A13.A53.D$202.5A14.2A
51.3D$202.A71.D$204.A$203.2A8$291.2A$291.2A$287.2A$287.2A$273.2A$273.
2A3$272.3D$274.D$273.D$261.2A$261.2A$283.2A$283.A$284.3A$286.A6$276.
2A$276.A$277.3A$279.A$265.2D10.2A$265.2D10.A$275.A.A$275.2A5$291.2A$
291.A$289.A.A$289.2A$14.2A233.2C$16.3A232.3C$15.4A.A.A227.4C.C.C$15.
2A.A3.A227.2C.C3.C$15.2A.A.A.A227.2C.C.C.C35.2A$15.3A.A230.3C.C35.2A
2.A$14.3A232.3C37.A2.2A$15.A2.A231.C2.C36.A$16.3A232.3C37.3A$294.A$
16.3A232.3C37.3A$15.A2.A231.C2.C36.A$14.3A232.3C37.A2.2A$15.3A.A230.
3C.C35.2A2.A$15.2A.A.A.A227.2C.C.C.C35.2A$15.2A.A3.A227.2C.C3.C$15.4A
.A.A227.4C.C.C$16.3A232.3C$14.2A233.2C$289.2A$289.A.A$291.A$266.2A23.
2A$266.2A6$270.2A$270.2A!
EDIT2: Ha, that was silly. 71x136, repeat time 572:

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x = 200, y = 136, rule = LifeHistory
155.A11.A$155.3A7.3A$158.A5.A$157.2A5.2A$157.9B$159.5B$158.7B$157.9B$
157.10B$154.19B$151.2B.19B$150.2A20B2A$150.2AB.18B2A$151.B.18B.B$154.
16B$155.14B$154.4B2.9B$153.4B3.8B$152.4B3.11B$151.4B4.12B$150.4B5.12B
$149.4B7.11B$148.4B6.4B.4B3DB$147.4B7.2A4.4BD2B$146.4B9.A4.2B3D2B$
145.4B7.3A6.6B$144.4B8.A8.7B$143.4B18.8B$142.4B20.8B$127.A13.4B21.9B$
127.3A10.4B21.6B.4B$130.A8.4B22.7B.4B$129.2A7.4B24.6B2.4B$129.5B3.4B
25.6B3.4B$131.3B2.4B26.6B4.4B$121.2A7.9B26.8B4.4B$121.A8.8B26.8B6.4B$
118.2A.A.B3.10B27.9B6.4B$118.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B27.9B7.4B$119.2A2.BA3B2A
2BDBD2B26.10B8.4B$121.4A7B2D3B26.3B2A5B9.4B$121.A.2B3.7B.B2A23.4B2A5B
10.4B$122.3AB2.7B.BA.A22.11B11.4B$125.A4.4B5.A17.2A.A7BD4B12.4B$120.
5A5.4B5.2A16.A.2A2.4B3DB15.4B$120.A10.4B29.2B2D2BD16.4B$122.A9.4B29.
6B17.4B$121.2A10.4B28.6B18.4B$134.4B26.7B19.4B$135.4B26.8B18.4B$136.
4B25.8B19.4B$137.4B21.AB.9B19.4B$138.4B19.A.A10B20.4B$139.4B18.2A.7B.
3B20.4B$140.4B22.10B20.4B$141.4B21.3BD6B21.3B$142.4B19.3B3D6B21.2B$
143.4B19.2BD8B22.B$144.4B19.10B$145.4B21.8B$146.4B20.8B$147.4B18.10B$
148.4B17.10B$149.4B15.13B$150.4B14.14B$151.4B12.15B$152.4B10.17B.2B$
153.4B8.20B2A$154.4B7.20B2A$155.4B5.15B.B2A.2B$156.4B3.15B2.B2A$157.
4B.5B2A10B$158.9B2A10B$159.20B$160.20B$160.6B3D11B$159.9BD8B.B$156.B.
9BD10B$155.2AB.18B$155.2A22B$156.2B.17B.2A$159.15B3.A$159.4B.9B5.3A$
158.4B3.8B7.A$157.4B5.5B$156.7B2.6B$156.15B$155.12B.2B$152.14B2.4B$
151.16B3.2A$150.17B3.A$150.17B4.3A$149.17B7.A$149.10B2D5B5.2A$148.11B
2D5B5.A$147.18B3.BA.A$148.19B.B2A$148.21B$143.2A4.20B$144.A4.19B$144.
A.AB.20B$145.2AB.22B14.2A$146.28B2.2B7.A$147.32B3.BA.A$144.37B.B2A$2A
141.2C38B$2.3A138.2B3C35B$.4A.A.A135.4CBCBC31B$.2A.A3.A134.B2CBC3BC
32B$.2A.A.A.A134.B2CBCBCBC33B2.2A$.3A.A138.3CBC31B3.B2A2.A$3A140.3C
33B4.A.B2A$.A2.A138.BC2BC32B4.A$2.3A140.3C32B5.3A$153.13B22.A$2.3A
140.3C32B5.3A$.A2.A138.BC2BC32B4.A$3A140.3C33B4.A.B2A$.3A.A138.3CBC
31B3.B2A2.A$.2A.A.A.A134.B2CBCBCBC33B2.2A$.2A.A3.A134.B2CBC3BC32B$.4A
.A.A135.4CBCBC31B$2.3A138.2B3C35B$2A141.2C38B$144.37B.B2A$164.15B3.BA
.A$161.B.11B2.2B7.A$160.2A9B14.2A$160.2A7B$161.7B$161.7B$163.5B$165.
4B$164.4B$163.B2A2B$164.2A!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Goldtiger997 » June 26th, 2020, 5:08 am

dvgrn wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 5:58 pm
Let's see if the trick works again. That other red cell in the table is now green, thanks to the following version of my 885-tick monstrosity. Now it's repeat time 1192, but it gets a glider out:
It did indeed work again. Here's a 46P4H1V0-to-glider converter based off Kazyan's eater with repeat time 138 (found with assistance from CatForce):

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x = 81, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
51.4B15.2A.A$52.4B14.A.2A$53.4B$54.4B13.5A$55.4B12.A4.A$44.4B2.B.3B.
4B13.BAB.A$44.4B.18B6.B2A.A$43.2A5B2A11BD4B3.A4B.A.2A$43.2A5B2A9B3D4B
2.ABAB3.A.A$44.B.15BDBD5B.A2BA2.2A2.A$46.B2A12BD9B2A6.2A$47.2A7B2.13B
$47.8B6.9B$49.7B7.8BA$48.10B5.7B.3A$48.13B2.5B6.A$49.8BD9B6.2A$.A41.
12BDBD11B$4A30.2A7.12B3D11B$4A32.3A4.12BD13B$3.2A2.A27.4A.A.A27B$6.2A
27.2A.A3.A28B$2.2A3.A27.2A.A.A.A29B2.2A$2.3A30.3A.A3.24B3.B2A2.A$2.2A
30.3A6.23B4.A.B2A$A2.2A30.A2.A4.24B4.A$2.2A32.3A4.24B5.3A$75.A$2.2A
32.3A4.24B5.3A$A2.2A30.A2.A4.24B4.A$2.2A30.3A6.23B4.A.B2A$2.3A30.3A.A
3.24B3.B2A2.A$2.2A3.A27.2A.A.A.A29B2.2A$6.2A27.2A.A3.A28B$3.2A2.A27.
4A.A.A27B$4A32.3A4.12BD13B$4A30.2A7.12B3D11B$.A41.12BDBD11B$49.8BD9B
6.2A$48.13B2.5B6.A$48.10B5.7B.3A$49.7B7.8BA$47.8B6.9B$47.2A7B2.13B$
46.B2A12BD9B2A6.2A$44.B.15BDBD5B.A2BA2.2A2.A$43.2A5B2A9B3D4B2.ABAB3.A
.A$43.2A5B2A11BD4B3.A4B.A.2A$44.4B.18B6.B2A.A$44.4B2.B.3B.4B13.BAB.A$
55.4B12.A4.A$54.4B13.5A$53.4B$52.4B14.A.2A$51.4B15.2A.A!
Also, thanks to everyone who has been updating the table on my userpage. I'm very glad it's proving to be interesting/useful!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » June 26th, 2020, 8:19 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:
June 26th, 2020, 5:08 am
Here's a 46P4H1V0-to-glider converter based off Kazyan's eater with repeat time 138 (found with assistance from CatForce)...
Wow! I didn't even consider trying B60 because, well, B60 never connects to anything except B60. Nice work!

What's next on your list of red table cells to turn green?

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by calcyman » June 26th, 2020, 9:32 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:
June 26th, 2020, 5:08 am
dvgrn wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 5:58 pm
Let's see if the trick works again. That other red cell in the table is now green, thanks to the following version of my 885-tick monstrosity. Now it's repeat time 1192, but it gets a glider out:
It did indeed work again. Here's a 46P4H1V0-to-glider converter based off Kazyan's eater with repeat time 138 (found with assistance from CatForce):
7 fewer rows:

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x = 81, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
51.4B15.2A.A$52.4B14.A.2A$53.4B$54.4B13.5A$55.4B12.A4.A$44.4B2.B.3B.
4B13.BAB.A$44.4B.18B6.B2A.A$43.2A5B2A16B3.A4B.A.2A$43.2A5B2A16B2.ABAB
3.A.A$44.B.23B.A2BA2.2A2.A$46.B2A22B2A6.2A$47.2A7B2.13B$47.8B6.9B$49.
7B7.8BA$48.10B5.7B.3A$48.13B2.5B6.A$49.18B6.2A$BA67B$4A30B2A33B$4A32B
3A30B$.2B2A2BA27B4ABABA27B$6B2A27B2ABA3BA28B$2B2A3BA27B2ABABABA29B2.
2A$.B3A30B3ABA27B3.B2A2.A$2B2A30B3A29B4.A.B2A$A2B2A30BA2BA28B4.A$2.2A
32B3A28B5.3A$75.A$2.2A32B3A28B5.3A$A2B2A30BA2BA28B4.A$2B2A30B3A29B4.A
.B2A$.B3A30B3ABA27B3.B2A2.A$2B2A3BA27B2ABABABA29B2.2A$6B2A27B2ABA3BA
28B$.2B2A2BA27B4ABABA27B$4A32B3A31B$4A30B2A34B$BA68B2A$51.15B3.BA.A$
48.B.11B2.2B7.A$47.2A9B14.2A$47.2A7B$48.7B$48.9B$50.3B2.2A$55.A$56.3A
$58.A!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Kazyan » June 26th, 2020, 10:07 am

It happens that a snake-headed variant on the drifter catalyst can compactify the eater by another three rows:

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x = 77, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
54.4B11.2A$55.4B10.A.A$44.4B2.B.3B.4B11.A2.2A$44.4B.18B3.2A.A.A$43.2A
5B2A16B.3B.A$43.2A5B2A16B.B4A$44.B.23B.AB2.2A$46.B2A22B3A2.A$47.2A7B
2.13B2.A.2A$47.8B6.9B3.A$49.7B7.8BA.A$48.10B5.7B.2A$48.13B2.5B$49.18B
$BA67B$4A30B2A33B$4A32B3A30B$.2B2A2BA27B4ABABA27B$6B2A27B2ABA3BA28B$
2B2A3BA27B2ABABABA29B2.2A$.B3A30B3ABA27B3.B2A2.A$2B2A30B3A29B4.A.B2A$
A2B2A30BA2BA28B4.A$2.2A32B3A28B5.3A$75.A$2.2A32B3A28B5.3A$A2B2A30BA2B
A28B4.A$2B2A30B3A29B4.A.B2A$.B3A30B3ABA27B3.B2A2.A$2B2A3BA27B2ABABABA
29B2.2A$6B2A27B2ABA3BA28B$.2B2A2BA27B4ABABA27B$4A32B3A31B$4A30B2A34B$
BA66B.B2A$51.15B3.BA.A$48.B.11B2.2B7.A$47.2A9B14.2A$47.2A7B$48.7B$48.
9B$50.3B2.2A$55.A$56.3A$58.A!
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