Highway robber challenge

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calcyman
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Highway robber challenge

Can anyone find a way to reroute the southern Herschel output to replace the half-blockade? I recall that in the late 90s someone (Dean Hickerson? Dieter Leithner?) built a stable reflector which restored a half-blockade.

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x = 93, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory
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2.3B4.14B.4B7.9B$32.8B3.3B3.7B.B5.3B9.8B$32.2B.4B5.2A15.4B11.8B$32.2B 4.2B4.A16.2A14.7B$37.BA2B4.3A14.A15.6B$37.A.A7.A11.3A16.7B$38.A20.A
18.7B$78.8B.3B$78.13B$78.14B$78.15B$79.14B$79.13B$78.14B$79.12B$81.3B 2A3B$81.2BA2BAB$83.B2A! There's a remarkably Heroic Glider which saves the yellow eater from being destroyed by an Evil Glider. EDIT: alternatively, it might be easier to syringe the (currently eaten) FNG of the red Herschel to restore the half-blockade. Or some more complicated staged recovery mechanism, I guess...? EDIT 2: completing this challenge would reduce the minimum recovery time for a highway robber from 878 ticks to 668 ticks. What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! calcyman Posts: 2352 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm Re: Highway robber challenge Here's the 1997 reflector. Unfortunately the eater2 removes an important glider: Code: Select all #C Stable glider reflector #C The device uses the following Herschel stages by David Buckingham #C (B) and Paul Callahan (C): 64 (B), 190 (B), 153 (C), 153, 64, 64 #C and 117 (B) steps. #C Dieter Leithner, 27 Apr 1997 x = 159, y = 62 23b2o$16b2o5b2o50bo$16b2o56bobo$52b2o20bobo6b2o$52bo20b2ob3o4b2o$18b2o
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D29B.6B$27.5B2D5B2.3B4.14B.4B7.9B$27.13B3.3B3.7B.B5.3B9.8B$29.5B.4B5. 2A15.4B11.8B$29.B2A2B4.2B4.A16.2A14.7B$30.2A5.BA2B4.3A14.A15.6B$37.A.
A7.A11.3A16.7B$38.A20.A18.7B$78.8B.3B$78.13B$78.14B$78.15B$79.14B$79. 13B$78.14B$79.12B$81.3B2A3B$81.2BA2BAB$83.B2A!
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Re: Highway robber challenge

calcyman wrote:
May 24th, 2020, 5:08 pm
I recall that in the late 90s someone (Dean Hickerson? Dieter Leithner?) built a stable reflector which restored a half-blockade.

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#C Two-stage Herschel device
#C Stage 1 - Herschel arrival left): The stage, based in part on a
#C           Herschel-to-pi conduit by Paul Callahan, restores the
#C           two blocks which were destroyed by the glider in stage 1.
#C Stage 2 - Herschel departure (right): A conduit by Dave Buckingham
#C           transforms the r-pentomino (created by the collision of a
#C           glider with two blocks) into a Herschel.
#C Dieter Leithner, 26 Apr 1997
x = 68, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
23bo$22bobo$14b2o6bobo20b2o$14b2o4b3ob2o20bo$19bo25bo$20b3ob2o19b2o$
22bob2o2$2o$bo$bobo26bo$2b2o25bo18b2o15bo$29b3o16b2o15bobo$65b3o$33b2o 32bo$29b2o2b2o$29b2o2$2bo38b2o$2bobo22b2o12bo$2b3o22b2o6bo6b3o$4bo29bo bo7bo$35bo$14b2o$14b2o2b2o$18bobo$20bo$20b2o! EDITed to remove some duplication with calcyman's follow-up post... Unfortunately, as Dieter pointed out at the time, you can't use this particular half-blockade factory and also get that fast 90-degree glider out. Maybe Guam's G4 repair mechanism could be used somehow instead? The key glider can escape in that case: Code: Select all x = 59, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory 40.B$39.3B$34.A3.4B$33.A2B.4B$32.B3A4B$4.B26.8B$4.2B24.8B$4.3B22.8B$4.4B20.8B$5.4B18.8B$6.4B16.8B$7.4B5.2A7.8B$8.4B3.B2AB5.8B3.2A$9.4B3.
3B4.8B5.A$10.5B2.B4.8B5.A$11.9B.8B6.2A$8.3B.16B8.B$8.19B9.3B$.B3.21B 9.6B$2AB.22B.B3.B2.10B$2A18BA24B3.2B2.2B$.B.16BA14BD3B2A15BD$4.7B2A6B 3A12B2D2B2A15BDBD$5.B.4B2A9B2D11B2D18B3DB$9.14B2C10BD21BD$8.A3.7B2A2B
C10BD21B$6.3A5.5B2A5B2.3B5.13B.B$5.A8.13B3.3B3.7B.B$5.2A9.5B.4B5.2A$
16.B2A2B4.2B4.A$17.2A5.BA2B4.3A$24.A.A7.A$25.A! But I think that just replaces one problem with two equally difficult problems, since this doesn't fit next to the hive-with-tail to the northwest. calcyman Posts: 2352 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm Re: Highway robber challenge calcyman wrote: May 24th, 2020, 6:10 pm EDIT: Can Bellman provide a replacement for the white block here? Manual experimentation gives a solution that involves an awkward block preventing any last hope of inserting the pi-heptomino: Code: Select all x = 93, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory 45.B$44.2BA$44.3BA$45.3AB$24.2A20.4B$23.A.A21.4B$23.A5.A18.4B$14.2A6.
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Re: Highway robber challenge

calcyman wrote:
May 24th, 2020, 6:41 pm
Manual experimentation gives a solution that involves an awkward block preventing any last hope of inserting the pi-heptomino...
Here's another result from the Forlorn Hope Department:

There is an H-to-G that returns the FNG glider on one of the several lanes that could clean up a block, avoiding the problem with the awkward yellow eater and the Evil Glider... except I don't think there's _quite_ room to fit in an eater or boat-bit catcher for that Evil Glider anywhere (see the yellow-and-red glider below):

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x = 113, y = 90, rule = LifeHistory
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EDIT: More clearance on the weld.
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x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Highway robber challenge

mmm, just so I understand, is the actual challenge to only remake the loafer bait without crossing the diagonal line (which is +- followed by the factory), or the restitution of the half blockade is a mandatory component of the challenge as well?

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Re: Highway robber challenge

Jormungant wrote:
May 24th, 2020, 8:10 pm
mmm, just so I understand, is the actual challenge to only remake the loafer bait without crossing the diagonal line (which is +- followed by the factory), or the restitution of the half blockade is a mandatory component of the challenge as well?
Really any highway robber with a recovery time less than 878 ticks would be a good discovery -- this half-blockade reflection just seemed like a good attempt at that goal, because it produces a quick 90-degree glider and an accessible R-pentomino output that can help with other cleanup tasks.

Entity Valkyrie's solution shown in the LifeWiki highway robber article solves two of the three problems, but adjusting the SE cleanup attachment far enough to make the half-blockade accessible also makes the repeat time of the mechanism truly horrible again:

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x = 122, y = 139, rule = LifeHistory
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B$139.2B47.A3.CA2.A.A9.3B$139.B56.A.A9.B2AB$197.A11.2A!  though... that fits the criterion you set ^^' success? there might even be better track to do the color changing and improving the recovery time... dvgrn Moderator Posts: 7585 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: Re: Highway robber challenge Jormungant wrote: May 25th, 2020, 4:39 am kk, I guess its good to have benchmark then, there is a boring solution with recovery time 876 ... that fits the criterion you set ^^' success? Definitely! It's only a few ticks faster, but it's actually a significant improvement over chris_c / EV2's model. The 878-tick mechanism's output signal was very awkwardly placed, so that it was actually necessary to add a second highway robber to permit a following glider to get past on the first highway-robber's lane. (This is a use case that comes up every now and then for highway robbers. There are a couple of highway robbers in the ADD and SUB components in the pi and phi calculators, for example, to count how many closely-spaced signals are coming in on a key lane... though they're kind of overkill in that context -- a couple of demultiplexers on equivalent delay circuits would have been good enough.) With the new 876-tick model there's a clean perpendicular output glider with no messy extra circuitry needed. I've updated the LifeWiki highway robber article to show the improvement. Goldtiger997 Posts: 636 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am Re: Highway robber challenge 3 more ticks off: Code: Select all x = 228, y = 265, rule = LifeHistory C.C$.2C$.C192$145.2A$144.B2AB11.2A.A.2A$145.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A$144.B .B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A$144.5B8.B2.5A.A$144.6B6.2ABA4.A$144.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A
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2A2.A.A9.3B$128.4B56.A.A9.B2AB$127.4B58.A11.2A!
Are any alternate sufficiently edgy loaf factories known? A quick search through the forums suggested no but I could have missed one. The loaf factory that is used is quite slow so if an alternate one is found it would probably result in a repeat time improvement.

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Re: Highway robber challenge

Goldtiger997 wrote:
May 25th, 2020, 6:19 am
Are any alternate sufficiently edgy loaf factories known? A quick search through the forums suggested no but I could have missed one. The loaf factory that is used is quite slow so if an alternate one is found it would probably result in a repeat time improvement.
I haven't collected any that I can recall. I've been interested in highway-robber technology since the horrible one that's still showcased in heisenburp.py, and that was from February 2007, so I probably would have noticed anything that had space for the extra eater catalyst and output glider lane.

If we started a project to semi-automatically collect edgy Herschel-to-junk converters, then by the time we'd collected several thousand new factories, a few of them would very likely happen to work as highway robbers.

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Re: Highway robber challenge

Goldtiger997 wrote:
May 25th, 2020, 6:19 am
3 more ticks off:

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x = 228, y = 265, rule = LifeHistory
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A.A.2A4.A2.BA.A.14B$133.4B34.2A9.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$132.4B44.A.4A2.AB2A6.
6B$131.4B44.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$130.4B45.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$129.4B47.A3. 2A2.A.A9.3B$128.4B56.A.A9.B2AB$127.4B58.A11.2A! Are any alternate sufficiently edgy loaf factories known? A quick search through the forums suggested no but I could have missed one. The loaf factory that is used is quite slow so if an alternate one is found it would probably result in a repeat time improvement. This highway robber actually has two outputs, one SW and one SE. Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY. Please click here for my own pages. My recent rules: B3-kq4ej5i6ckn7e/S2-i34q6a7 B3-kq4ej5y6c/S2-i34q5e Move the Box Goldtiger997 Posts: 636 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am Re: Highway robber challenge Enitity Valkyrie 2 and Extrementhusiast's recent great discovery knocks 10 more ticks off the repeat time of the highway robber: Code: Select all x = 225, y = 266, rule = LifeHistory C$.2C$2C190$142.2A$141.B2AB11.2A.A.2A$142.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A$141.B.B 5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A$141.5B8.B2.5A.A$141.6B6.2ABA4.A$141.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A
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175.A.A$176.2A! Goldtiger997 Posts: 636 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am Re: Highway robber challenge I got the repeat time down to 742 ticks at the cost of some size and simplicity: Code: Select all x = 195, y = 236, rule = LifeHistory .C$2.C$3C153$82.4B36.A30.4B$83.4B34.A.A30.4B$84.4B33.A.A31.4B$85.4B 26.2A.2A.A.A.2A29.4B$86.4B24.A.A.A.A.A.A.A30.4B$87.4B19.2A2.A5.A3.A8. A24.4B$88.4B18.A.A.2A3.2A.B.2A5.3A25.4B$89.4B19.A.4B.7B4.A29.4B$90.4B
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