## Soup search results

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### Re: Soup search results

Freywa wrote:The name of house on house siamese table-on-table weld hat-siamese-hat caught my eye. One of the C1 soups gave me a 9G synthesis of that, as well as 11G for the doubled version: ... The systematic name is so unwieldy that I'll name the 34-cell SL Liberty Bell and the 50-cell SL double Liberty Bell
The names sound good. I had a 9G synthesis of the 34-bit one from 2016-09-30, which was probably a reduction of yootaa's 10-glider synthesis of the 50-bit one from the same day. Those used a cheaper cleanup, and yours has a cheaper engine. Combining the two reduce these to 8 and 9, respectively:

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x = 182, y = 112, rule = B3/S23
13bo38bo$14boo34bobo9bo48bo39bo$13boo36boo7bobo28bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$61boo12bobo12bobobboo3boo9bo18bobobboo3boo9bo18bobobboo3boo$11bo26bo
29bo6boo13bob4obobobo28bob4obobobo28bob4obobobo$11boo25bo21bo7bo7bo12b oo6bobo7b3o3b3o13boo6bobo7b3o3b3o13boo6bobo$10bobo25bo11bo9boo6bo21bob
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bbbobboooobbboob$bobbbooboobbbbob$
obobbboooooobboo$bbbbbbboboobboob$
bboooobobboooobb$obobbbbooobbooob$
boobboobobobbooo$boobbobobobooooo$
boobooobobbboobo$ooobbbooobbbooob$
booooobboboobobb$bbobbbobbbbbbboo$
oooboobooooobboo$obbobooobboooboo$
bbobooboooboobbo!
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x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Soup search results

A for awesome wrote:42-cell SL with a surprisingly simple predecessor (first occurrence in any symmetry), found by rliston...
Nice one! Even I can make a recipe for that one, with a lot of help from Goldtiger997's scripts. Can anyone beat 15 gliders?

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x = 46, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
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44bo2$27bo$26b2o$26bobo! EDIT: Maybe this would be a good case for a tutorial on how to get from a soup to a recipe? Here are the results from running Goldtiger997's synthesise-constellation-ee9.py script against the two constellations that it seemed reasonable to build from three gliders each: Code: Select all x = 1218, y = 117, rule = LifeHistory .C60.C52.C52.C31.C59.C43.C.C47.C52.C45.C46.C.C58.C46.C44.C47.C55.C57. C40.C.C47.C51.C41.C49.C49.C62.C44.C$2.C59.C.C51.C52.C31.2C58.C43.2C
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B342.13B47.2B191.7B$.2BD343.13B242.3B$2.D346.9B244.3B$603.B! Replacing the blocks on the right with gliders needed a little trial and error, and then it was just a matter of picking the recipes that seemed to have gliders coming from the right directions, and where the reaction envelopes were as small as possible on the construction side. It might be worth adjusting those three-glider scripts to rewind all the recipe gliders by 20 cells or so, so that it's easier to see glider directions in this kind of LifeHistory blueprint. Sarp Posts: 219 Joined: March 1st, 2015, 1:28 pm ### Re: Soup search results Natural loafer! Code: Select all x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 bbbobbobobooboob$
booobbobbbbbbooo$obbbooboboobbobb$
bobbobbobbbboboo$bbbbbobbobbbbbob$
oobbobobobobobbo$bbbooobobbobbobb$
bbooobbobooobobb$oobbbbbbbbobbobb$
obbbobooobbooboo$bbobboooobboobob$
boobbbbbbbbbbboo$boooobbbboobbbob$
obb5obbbobbbobbb$bbbboobobooobobb$
oobbboboboobbboo!
Last edited by dvgrn on April 1st, 2019, 9:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: added link to the relevant Catagolue page (from exactly one year ago, by a strange coincidence)

Freywa
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### Re: Soup search results

Sarp wrote:Natural loafer!

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbbobbobobooboob$booobbobbbbbbooo$
obbbooboboobbobb$bobbobbobbbboboo$
bbbbbobbobbbbbob$oobbobobobobobbo$
bbbooobobbobbobb$bbooobbobooobobb$
oobbbbbbbbobbobb$obbbobooobbooboo$
bbobboooobboobob$boobbbbbbbbbbboo$
boooobbbboobbbob$obb5obbbobbbobbb$
bbbboobobooobobb$oobbboboboobbboo! It looks like this came from that spam loafer symmetry...? Catalogue shows no actual loafer-producing soup. Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel Goldtiger997 Posts: 628 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am ### Re: Soup search results dvgrn wrote:Nice one! Even I can make a recipe for that one, with a lot of help from Goldtiger997's scripts. Can anyone beat 15 gliders? Code: Select all x = 46, y = 53, rule = B3/S23 26bobo$26b2o$27bo2$44bo$43bo$43b3o$8bo14bo$9b2o12bobo$8b2o13b2o18bo$
42bo$42b3o$2bo16bo$3bo16b2o$b3o15b2o4$4bobo$5b2o$5bo11$bo$b2o$obo5$19b 2o$20b2o$19bo$42b3o$42bo$8b2o13b2o18bo$9b2o12bobo$8bo14bo$43b3o$43bo$44bo2$27bo$26b2o$26bobo!
It's nice to see that my scripts aren't too hard to use. Here's a reduction to 14 gliders:

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x = 46, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
26bobo$26b2o$27bo2$44bo$43bo$43b3o$8bo14bo$9b2o12bobo$8b2o13b2o3$2bo$
3bo$b3o2$26bo$26b2o3bo$4bobo18bobo2b2o$5b2o23bobo$5bo11$bo$b2o$obo3$
40bo$39b2o$39bobo5$8b2o13b2o$9b2o12bobo$8bo14bo$43b3o$43bo$44bo2$27bo$
26b2o$26bobo! Moosey Posts: 3712 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Soup search results Freywa wrote: Sarp wrote:Natural loafer! Code: Select all x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 bbbobbobobooboob$
booobbobbbbbbooo$obbbooboboobbobb$
bobbobbobbbboboo$bbbbbobbobbbbbob$
oobbobobobobobbo$bbbooobobbobbobb$
bbooobbobooobobb$oobbbbbbbbobbobb$
obbbobooobbooboo$bbobboooobboobob$
boobbbbbbbbbbboo$boooobbbboobbbob$
obb5obbbobbbobbb$bbbboobobooobobb$
oobbboboboobbboo!
It looks like this came from that spam loafer symmetry...? Catalogue shows no actual loafer-producing soup.
Everyone has been holding onto April fools pranks for awhile.
My CA rules can be found here

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Nanho walåt derwo esaato?

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34e5e67c/S23ce45
4o2$b2o$o2bo$b2o! [[ TRACK 0 -7/325 ZOOM 16 THEME 0 ]] Ian07 Posts: 620 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Soup search results Some new long-lived soup records: C1 soup with final population of 5854: Code: Select all x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 oooboboobbbobboo$
obbboobbobbooobo$bbbobobboboobbbb$
bbooboobbbobooob$bbbbbobobbbboobo$
bobobbbooooobooo$bboooobbbbobbobb$
bbobbbbbobooobbo$oobboboobbbooboo$
oobobobboobbbboo$oooobbbbobbobbbo$
bbbobooobbbobbob$boboobbboooooboo$
obbobobbobobbobb$obbobbooobbboboo$
obooooobbbbobboo!
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 93008c889f (Arie Paap, 2019-04-06)

1638-tick C4_1 diehard:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobboobobbooobbobbbooboboobbooo$obbooobboboobooobbbbobobboboobo$
ooooboobbbbbooooobobobooboboobb$booobbbooboboboooboooobobboooob$
bbboooboobooooboooooooobboobboo$oooboobboobbobbobobbooooooobooo$
obbbboboobbbooooobooobbobbbbobb$bboobooboobobbbbbbbobobboboobbo$
oooboobboobobbbooooooooooooobob$bbbooobooobobbbobbbobooobobbbbb$
ooooooobobbobboooobbbbbbbbooboo$obbooboooobbobbooobboooobbobboo$
bbooobobobbbobbbbboobbbbooooobo$bbbboobboboobooobobbbbbboboboob$
bboooboboboobbbobobbobbbobbooob$ooooooobooooboooooboooobooooooo$
booobbobbbobbobobbboobobobooobb$boobobobbbbbboboooboobobboobbbb$
obooooobbbboobbbbbobbbobobooobb$oobbobboooobbooobbobbooooboobbo$
ooboobbbbbbbboooobbobbobooooooo$bbbbbobooobobbbobbbobooobooobbb$
bobooooooooooooobbboboobboobooo$obboobobbobobbbbbbboboobooboobb$
bbobbbbobbooobooooobbboobobbbbo$ooobooooooobbobobbobboobboobooo$
oobboobboooooooobooooboobooobbb$boooobbobooooboooboboboobbbooob$
bbooboboobobobooooobbbbbooboooo$oboobobbobobbbboooboobobbooobbo$
ooobbooboboobbbobbooobboboobboo!
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 1b7e894c17 (carybe, 2019-03-29)

D4_+2 soup with final population of 12760, found with GPU:

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobboobooobboobooboobboooboobboo$oooobbbobboobbbbbbbboobbobbboooo$
ooooobobbobbbobbbbobbbobbobooooo$oboboboboobbboooooobbboobobobobo$
obobobbbobobbboooobbbobobbbobobo$oobobobbbboobobbbboboobbbboboboo$
obobboooooboboobboobobooooobbobo$obbbbboobboobbobbobboobboobbbbbo$
oobbbbbboobooboooobooboobbbbbboo$bbooooobbbboooboobooobbbbooooobb$
oboboooboobboboooobobboobooobobo$ooboobbboooooboooobooooobbbooboo$
bbobbbobbboboobooboobobbbobbbobb$obbooooboobbbbobbobbbbooboooobbo$
bobboobbbbbbobbbbbbobbbbbboobbob$bbooboobooooobbbbbbooooobooboobb$
bobboobbbbbbobbbbbbobbbbbboobbob$obbooooboobbbbobbobbbbooboooobbo$
bbobbbobbboboobooboobobbbobbbobb$ooboobbboooooboooobooooobbbooboo$
oboboooboobboboooobobboobooobobo$bbooooobbbboooboobooobbbbooooobb$
oobbbbbboobooboooobooboobbbbbboo$obbbbboobboobbobbobboobboobbbbbo$
obobboooooboboobboobobooooobbobo$oobobobbbboobobbbboboobbbboboboo$
obobobbbobobbboooobbbobobbbobobo$oboboboboobbboooooobbboobobobobo$
ooooobobbobbbobbbbobbbobbobooooo$oooobbbobboobbbbbbbboobbobbboooo$
oobboobooobboobooboobboooboobboo!
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... fffabe2ae9 (Arie Paap, 2019-04-01)

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### Re: Soup search results

The first methuselah_44k just showed up, lasting 44098 gens (found by rliston):

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
boooobobbbobbobb$bboboooobbbbobob$
obbbooobbobbbobb$obbbobooobobbooo$
oboobobbobbobooo$bobbbboboboboobo$
oobbobbbobbboobo$oooooobobboboooo$
oobooooobbbbobbb$bbbbbobooobobboo$
booobbbbooobobbo$boboobbboooobooo$
oboobobboobbbooo$bobbboobobbbobbo$
bbbobbbobbbbooob$bboooobbbbbbboob! megasized_136h in H4_+2 (found by Arie Paap): Code: Select all x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23 bbobbobooobobbbbbbbbobooobobbobb$
bbobobbbbbobobobbobobobbbbbobobb$obobboooooobboooooobboooooobbobo$
obobbobooobobboooobbobooobobbobo$booobbbbbbooboobbooboobbbbbbooob$
boboobobboobobbbbbboboobboboobob$ooooobbboobbboobboobbboobbbooooo$
bobbbbbbbbbboooooooobbbbbbbbbbob$bbobooobbbobbbbbbbbbbobbbooobobb$
bobobbbboobobobbbboboboobbbbobob$bbbobobboobbobobbobobboobbobobbb$
bboboobbbbbobobbbbobobbbbboobobb$boboooboobbbbbobbobbbbboobooobob$
bbbbboobbooobboooobbooobboobbbbb$bbooooboobbbbbboobbbbbbooboooobb$
ooobbooooobbbboooobbbbooooobbooo$bbooooboobbbbbboobbbbbbooboooobb$
bbbbboobbooobboooobbooobboobbbbb$boboooboobbbbbobbobbbbboobooobob$
bboboobbbbbobobbbbobobbbbboobobb$bbbobobboobbobobbobobboobbobobbb$
bobobbbboobobobbbboboboobbbbobob$bbobooobbbobbbbbbbbbbobbbooobobb$
bobbbbbbbbbboooooooobbbbbbbbbbob$ooooobbboobbboobboobbboobbbooooo$
boboobobboobobbbbbboboobboboobob$booobbbbbbooboobbooboobbbbbbooob$
obobbobooobobboooobbobooobobbobo$obobboooooobboooooobboooooobbobo$
bbobobbbbbobobobbobobobbbbbobobb$bbobbobooobobbbbbbbbobooobobbobb! praosylen#5847 (Discord) x₁=ηx V*_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ googoIpIex Posts: 260 Joined: February 28th, 2019, 4:49 pm Location: Sqrt(-1) ### Re: Soup search results minimal form of the 5854 final population soup: Code: Select all x = 23, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$14bobo$14b3o$3bo8b3o$2b2o7b2o5b4o$2b3o2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$2bo3b2o4b 3o6b2o$3bo3bo4b3o$3bobo13b2o$19bo$8bob2o5bo$8b3o6bo$9bo6bobo$18bo$2o 11bo2bo$o7bo5b2o$2ob2obobo$bobobo$2bo3bobo2b3o$7bo6bo$11b2obo$13bo!

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### Re: Soup search results

New Coe's P8 variant found by carybe:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
boobooooboooooobbbbbbobbboobbob$oooobbooooboboboboboboobboobooo$
oobbbboooboobbbobbbbbobbbooobob$bobboobbobbbbobbbbobboooobbbobb$
obbobbbbbbbboboobbooobboobbbooo$obbobbbobbbbbbboobbobbbbbbbbooo$
ooobbboboooooooobobobobooboobbb$ooobbobbobbobobooboboboboboobbb$
booobboooboobobobobooooobbbobob$oobbbbobboboobooobbbboobobboooo$
obobbbobobbbbooooboobboobbobbbb$ooobbboooobboboobobbobobooobbob$
obbbobobboboobbbbbobobbobboobbb$oobobbooobobboobbobobbobobbbbob$
obbbobobboooboooobbboobobobbbbb$booboooooooobbooobbooooooooboob$
bbbbboboboobbboooobooobbobobbbo$bobbbbobobbobobboobbobooobboboo$
bbboobbobbobobbbbboobobbobobbbo$bobbooobobobboboobobboooobbbooo$
bbbbobboobbooboooobbbbobobbbobo$oooobboboobbbboooboobobbobbbboo$
bobobbboooooboboboboobooobbooob$bbbooboboboboboobobobbobbobbooo$
bbboobooboboboboooooooobobbbooo$ooobbbbbbbbobboobbbbbbbobbbobbo$
ooobbboobbooobboobobbbbbbbbobbo$bbobbboooobbobbbbobbbbobboobbob$
bobooobbbobbbbbobbboobooobbbboo$oooboobbooboboboboboboooobboooo$
bobboobbbobbbbbboooooobooooboob!
praosylen#5847 (Discord)

x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Soup search results

Dimerized and Variation:

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x = 57, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
48bo$41bo5bobo$13bo25bob2o5bo$12bobo24bobo$13bo28bo3b5o$40bobo3bo4bo$
11b5o23bo3bo5bo2bo$2o9bo4bo22bo2bo5b3obo2bo$2o2b3o7b2obo22b2o4b4o2bobo
bo$6bo7b2obo2bo11b2o2b2o7bo2bo3bo2bo$5bobo3bo5bobobo13bo2bo7bobo2b2o$7b2obobo4bo2bo10b3o4bo8bo$6bo3bo2bo2b2o14bob2obo$11b2o23bo13bo$49bob2o
bo$12bo26bo8bo4b3o$12b2o20b2o2bobo7bo2bo$11bo2b2o15bo2bo3bo2bo7b2o2b2o$13bobo14bobobo2b4o4b2o$15bo15bo2bob3o5bo2bo$34bo2bo5bo3bo$35bo4bo3bob o$15b2o19b5o3bo$15b2o28bobo$38bo5b2obo$37bobo5bo$38bo!

Still drifting.

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### Re: Soup search results

Bullet51 wrote:Dimerized and Variation:
ditto

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x = 59, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
2$19.8B$19.6B2AB$19.6B2AB$9.2B.B.2B3.9B$9.20B$9.17BA2B$9.17BABA3B9.6B$9.3B.13B2A2BA16B$9.B2A5B.8B.B2A2B2.6B2A5B$9.B2A5B.7B.3BA.3B.3A2B2A4B
$9.8B7.2B.4B2.2BA6B.4B$9.2BA5B7.2B2.B2AB.BABA9B$9.2B2A4B.6B2.2BA2BAB 2A12B$9.BA2B2A2B.4B.2B.3BABAB.BA11B$3B.8BABA2B.8BA3BA15B$3B.7B.2BA2B.
3BA3BABA3B.2B.12B$3B.6B.4B.6B2ABA2BA2B2.14B$11B.4B2.2BABAB.B2AB2.2B8.
6B$2A3BA5B2.4B.3BA12B7.7B$2AB2A4B2.2B3A3B3A5BA11B.8B$4BABA3B.2BABA11B 2A10B.6B2A$5BA5B2AB2A10BA2B2A8B.6B2AB$5B3A3BABA14BABA3B12.2B$8B.2B3A
16BA19B7.2B$9B.4B2.30BA3B$7B.B2.4B.3B5.3B.4B2.10BABA3B$2B7.18B2.4B.8B A2B2A3B$9.3BA16B3A11B2A5B$9.3BABA14BABA3B3A5BA6B$9.3B2A2BA10B2AB2A5BA
11B.9B$9.5B2A11BABA2B.3BABA3B2AB2.2B.6B2AB$9.6BA5B3A3B3A2B2.4B2ABA2BA
2B4.3A2B2AB$21BA3B.4B2.5BA3BABA3B.3BA6B$B2A6B.2B2.B2AB.BABA2B2.4B.10B
A3BA3BABA6B$B2A2B3A4.2BA2BAB2A6B.4B.5B.2B.3BABAB2A8B$.6BA3B.3BABA3BA
3B.2BA2B.8B2.2BA2BAB.BA7B$6BABA3BA3BA8B.2BABA4B5.2B2.B2AB.10B$8B2ABAB
A3B.10B2A2BA3B4.2B.4B2.B.8B$7BAB.BA2BA2B2.11B2A5B7.B.A12B$10B.B2AB2.
2B4.8BA5B7.2B2AB.B6.2B$8B.B2.4B.5B.12B.2B6.BA2B2AB6.2B$12BA.B.B2.12B
2AB2.2B7.2BABAB$7.2B.B2A2B4.7BA3BA2BA2B10.3BAB$7.2B2A2BAB4.8B2ABABA3B
.B8.5B$7.2BABA2B5.3B.2BABA3BA3BA5B5.5B$7.2BA3B6.3B.3BA3B.3BABAB.BAB4.
3B2AB$7.6B6.B2A2B3A3B.2BA2BAB2A9B2AB$7.6B7.2A9B2.B2AB.BABA6B.2B$7.B2A 3B8.B.8B.4B2.2BA6B3.2B$7.B2A3B10.6B3.2BA.3B.3A2B2AB$8.2B.2B16.2B.B2A 2B.7B2A2B$7.2B20.2B2A2BA3B6.2B.B$29.2BABA5B$29.2BA7B$29.10B$29.10B$29.B2A7B$23.B5.B2A9B!


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### Re: Soup search results

Based on this soup, super loaf in 10 gliders (LifeWiki/Niemiec says 30):

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x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7bobo$8b2o8bo$16b2o$17b2o3$20bo$19bobo$19bo2bo$20b2o$25bobo$25b2o$11bo14bo$11b2o$10bobo$2o$b2o11b2o$o14b2o$14bo$27b3o$27bo$28bo5$12bo$
12b2o$11bobo! Bullet51 wrote:Dimerized and Variation: And then some: Code: Select all x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 7b2o$7b2o3$7b3o$10bo$7bo2b2o$2o7bobo$2o2b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$7bo2b2o$5bobo 3b2o3b2o$12bo4b2o$16bo2bo$19bo2b2o$11b3o3bobo2b2o$14bo$11bo2b2o$13bobo
3$15b2o$15b2o!
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### Re: Soup search results

Freywa wrote:Based on this soup, super loaf in 10 gliders (LifeWiki/Niemiec says 30): ...
Billabob posted a similar 10-glider synthesis (the two clean-up gliders were sightly father away) on 2018-04-10.

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### Re: Soup search results

I'm not one to be outdone though. There's this 17-cell heart-shaped SL that is listed as requiring 108 gliders; here it is in 13 from this soup:

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x = 166, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o5$60bobo84bo$60b2o86bo$61bo84b3o2$43bo107bo$43bo23bo82bobo$
43bo21b2o82bo2bo$66b2o69bo12b2o$137bo$131bo5bo$132bo$130b3o$135b2o$25b o109b2o$26b2o131bo$25b2o9bo113b2ob2o3bobo$35b2o112bobobobo2bobo$32bo2b obo111bo2bo2bo3bo$30bobo117bobobo$31b2o118bobo$152bo10b2o$163bobo$163b
o3$57bo$56b2o6bo$56bobo4b2o$63bobo!
Edit: Never mind, found that 9G synthesis.
Last edited by Freywa on April 15th, 2019, 9:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
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### Re: Soup search results

Freywa wrote:
Bullet51 wrote:Dimerized and Variation:
And then some...
Combining Bullet51's, Jormungant's and Freywa's variations gives a surprisingly simple agar. Might be a bit of a challenge to synthesize the larger finitizations of it, though:

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x = 40, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$18.B2AB$19.2B$17.3B$17.ABAB10.2A$15.A2B2AB9.B2AB$5.B9.3BA2B10.
2B$4.2AB.3B4.3AB10.3B$4.2A2B2AB5.3B10.ABAB$5.B.2B2A2B2.2B10.A2B2AB$7.
BA2BAB2.BAB9.3BA2B$9.2BA3B2A2B.3B4.3AB$9.ABA.B2A4B2AB5.3B$14.3B2.2B2A 2B2.2B$15.2B2.BA2BAB2.BAB$13.3B5.2BA3B2A2B.3B$13.ABAB4.ABA.B2A4B2AB$11.A2B2AB9.3B2.2B2A2B$.B9.3BA2B10.2B2.BA2BAB.B$2AB.3B4.3AB10.3B5.2BA 2B2A$2A2B2AB5.3B10.ABAB4.ABA.B2A$.B.2B2A2B2.2B10.A2B2AB9.B$3.BA2BAB2.
BAB9.3BA2B$5.2BA3B2A2B.3B4.3AB$5.ABA.B2A4B2AB5.3B$10.3B2.2B2A2B2.2B$
11.2B2.BA2BAB2.BAB$9.3B5.2BA3B2A2B.3B$9.ABAB4.ABA.B2A4B2AB$7.A2B2AB9. 3B2.2B2A2B$7.3BA2B10.2B2.BA2BAB.B$7.3AB10.3B5.2BA2B2A$8.3B10.ABAB4.AB
A.B2A$7.2B10.A2B2AB9.B$6.B2AB9.3BA2B$7.2A10.3AB$20.3B$19.2B$18.B2AB$19.2A! Was this really not a known variant of Coe's p8? All I seem to be able to find is a Random Agar experiment by Jason Summers in 2004, finding a simple twinned Coe's p8: Code: Select all #N Twinned Coe's p8 agar predecessor #O Jason Summers, 12 August 2004 #C "Twin Coe's-p8's. (Did we know they could be combined like this?)" #C Pattern adjusted to fit on a simple bounded-grid torus in Golly. x = 147, y = 49, rule = B3/S23:T147,49 bobob5o3bob2o4bob2ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bobo4bo2b2o4b o3bo2b2ob3o3bobo2bobob3ob2obo4b2obo3b5obobo2bo$4b2obo3b5obobo2bo2bobob
5o3bob2o4bob2ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bobo4bo2b2o4bo3bo
2b2ob3o3bobo2bobob3ob2obo$b3o3bobo2bobob3ob2obo4b2obo3b5obobo2bo2bobob 5o3bob2o4bob2ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bobo4bo2b2o4bo3bo 2b2o$bo4bo2b2o4bo3bo2b2ob3o3bobo2bobob3ob2obo4b2obo3b5obobo2bo2bobob5o
3bob2o4bob2ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bo$2bo4b2o2bo4bobo4b obo4bo2b2o4bo3bo2b2ob3o3bobo2bobob3ob2obo4b2obo3b5obobo2bo2bobob5o3bob 2o4bob2ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo$2obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bo
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$ob3obobo2bobo3b3ob2o2bo3bo4b2o2bo4bobo4bobo4bo2b2o4bo3bo2b2ob3o3bobo 2bobob3ob2obo4b2obo3b5obobo2bo2bobob5o3bob2o4bobo! simsim314 Posts: 1766 Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm ### Re: Soup search results @dvgrn The agars might be interesting for many reasons, one thought cross my mind is super fast computers. So if we ever hit the holy grail of something which has self replication and developed brain, fast computers might be very useful in this "smart self replication" CGOL universe. And I couldn't find the updated information about agars, like we have for conduits. Do we have a thread? Maybe we can open a thread about light speed and inside agar information passage where we would collect all the information from all the places about this topic? Maybe the topic is computers with wires (propagating signal in stable or oscillating environments). The latelly posted wires are also related to this topic I think. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 7270 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Soup search results simsim314 wrote:@dvgrn The agars might be interesting for many reasons, one thought cross my mind is super fast computers. So if we ever hit the holy grail of something which has self replication and developed brain, fast computers might be very useful in this "smart self replication" CGOL universe. And I couldn't find the updated information about agars, like we have for conduits. Do we have a thread? There are a lot of agars out there, but none that I know of that allow for fast information transfer... repeatably, anyway. There are certainly lots of catastrophic-collapse signals that transmit information through an agar at or near lightspeed, once... but they tend to be difficult to clean up afterwards. The exceptions are just the obvious ones, not particularly interesting -- known telegraph or 2c/3 wires or whatever, stacked into agars. But there's an extremely huge lot I don't know about agars, so please don't take that as a definitive answer or anything. simsim314 wrote:Maybe we can open a thread about light speed and inside agar information passage where we would collect all the information from all the places about this topic? Maybe the topic is computers with wires (propagating signal in stable or oscillating environments). The latelly posted wires are also related to this topic I think. Never hurts to have a new collection thread. I just can't think of anything I'd want to put in it at the moment. What about these new Coe's p8 agars, for example? How might they be made into something that's useful in practice for transmitting signals? simsim314 Posts: 1766 Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm ### Re: Soup search results dvgrn wrote: What about these new Coe's p8 agars, for example? How might they be made into something that's useful in practice for transmitting signals? We would obviously need more search tools than we have today, that will be directed to find signals inside agars. I think similar algorithms to those we're using to search signals inside static circuitry (like dr and bellman). This is doable in principle. To illustrate what can be done in principle as a visual illustration, wire crossing found/rediscovered latelly by me can demonstrate how signal can propagate inside NxN grid already inside CGOL: Code: Select all x = 273, y = 185, rule = B3/S23 161bo$161bo$161bo2$157b3o3b3o2$161bo$161bo$161bo3$196bo$196bo$159b3o
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About the new thread - I hope to get to it with and explanation how agars, wires, wicks, light speed signals are all interconnected in some possibility which needs to collect data in order to allow for some futuristic projects for futuristic CGOL computers. The project will need some goals that will include searching utilities inside oscillators for the existing tools - dr and bellman, it will seek documentation similar to what we have in conduits. Probably best to start from golly, I think Jason also collected some agars right?

Even clearer illustration of agar based signals demonstration:

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x = 155, y = 123, rule = B3/S23
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### Re: Soup search results

In response to a challenge from over three years ago on another thread, "minus zero" in 6 gliders from this soup:

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x = 52, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8bo$8bobo29bo$8b2o31bo7bobo$39b3o7b2o$50bo2$37b2o$4bobo29bo2bo$5b2o30b 2o$2o3bo$b2o$o2$41b3o2$38b3o$40bo$39bo!
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### Re: Soup search results

Freywa wrote:In response to a challenge from over three years ago on another thread, "minus zero" in 6 gliders from this soup:

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x = 52, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8bo$8bobo29bo$8b2o31bo7bobo$39b3o7b2o$50bo2$37b2o$4bobo29bo2bo$5b2o30b 2o$2o3bo$b2o$o2$41b3o2$38b3o$40bo$39bo!
gmc_nxtman found a very similar 7-glider synthesis via 5-glider converter of 22.108237 on 2017-06-27 (that used a different 3-glider V-spark, rather than one from a phi). Because you used a phi-spark, you were able to optimize the starting constellation. The same trick constellation could be used to optimize the tub-version of this (20.27855) and presumably other similar ones (e.g. with boats, loaves, eaters, long boat, etc.) - those would give more 6-glider still-lifes.

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### Re: Soup search results

mniemiec wrote:gmc_nxtman found a very similar 7-glider synthesis via 5-glider converter of 22.108237 on 2017-06-27 (that used a different 3-glider V-spark, rather than one from a phi). Because you used a phi-spark, you were able to optimize the starting constellation. The same trick constellation could be used to optimize the tub-version of this (20.27855) and presumably other similar ones (e.g. with boats, loaves, eaters, long boat, etc.) - those would give more 6-glider still-lifes.
My thought process went something like this: "There aren't any 2-glider collisions that produce a phi spark… I'll look in Martin's components file for a 3-glider one". I found such a component that required one glider and one blinker. Then, seeing there was plenty of room to drop the B, I ran a 3-glider search on the beehive + blinker constellation and picked one that just looked good.

Shinjuku is starting to get loaded with 17- and 18-bit still life syntheses. Some of these were raked from the many posts in this forum, but I made the one below myself. I just looked at your list of "difficult syntheses" and picked the one with the most gliders – 17.1201 at 160G. As usual, I pulled soups from Catagolue to find possible starting points, and eventually came up with this 10G synthesis from this soup:

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#C xs5_253>151 -5/82 0/13 -10 70 1 151 -5/-28 8 33 14@0L14 -15>xs23_696zz8o6picz01226
#C xs23_696zz8o6picz01226>1 0///@1b3 -2>xs17_4a9lmge2zx1
x = 134, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
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66b2o$66bobo$66bo!
This is possibly the most drastic reduction anyone has ever made to a synthesis of any object.

Edit: 17.1101 from 184 gliders to 12 from this soup.

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#C >48 -3/44 1/-45 7 22 3 43 -17/42 -12>xp2_6996yf4a6zzy6e
#C xp2_6996yf4a6zzy6e+1>86 -37/-58 -2 -44 7 89 0/-75 41 -29 22/@0l30 -18>xs17_j9c0qmz0123
x = 127, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
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2o106bobo$4bo110b2o26$74bo$74b2o$73bobo!
Edit 2: 17.994 from 187 gliders to 8 from this soup. Now this is even more of a drastic reduction.

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#C >11 0//-11 5 12 -6/>xs10_33wcic
#C xs10_33wcic>81 -3/-67 37//64 -25 67 -32@0B5 14>xs24_69q3pcy36952zw121
#C xs24_69q3pcy36952zw121>1 0///@1R18 -1>xs17_69q3pczw121
x = 148, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
75bo4bo63bo$6b3o61bo5b2ob2o62bobo$obo3bo61bobo4b2o2bobo61bobo$b2o4bo 61b2o62bo8b2ob2o$bo62b2o66bobo7bo4bo$60bo3b2o65bo2bo9b2obo$b2o56bobo
70b2o9b2obo$2o57bobo66b3o$2bo57bo69bo$129bo25$39b2o$40b2o$39bo!
When adding the above synthesis to Shinjuku I also added systematic identifiers as comments to some syntheses. These identifiers are different from Niemiec's; they are obtained by sorting the apgcodes of all the still lifes of a given number of bits, and start from 0 (so, for example, 17.0 = xs17_01784czad113 and 18.0 = xs18_01784cz2lp13).

Edit 3: 17.6714 (lex-apg) / 17.1044 (Niemiec) from 195 gliders to 10:

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#C xp2_s01110szw222+1>1 0///@1r-4 2>xp2_70ggg07
#C xp2_70ggg07>24 -6//-7 3 18 -6/@0F15 -6>xp2_696zzxo02220oxezx1044401xs0111
#C xp2_696zzxo02220oxezx1044401xs0111+1>65 -24 85 -31/-27 -5 44 10//@0r-13 28>xs17_mc1raa4z11
x = 131, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
49bo$47b2o$48b2o$115bo$114bobo$114bobo$51bo63bo$50bo$50b3o$110bobo$
111b2o$50bo60bo$50b2o$49bobo68bo$9bo47bo50bobo9bo$9bo47bo51b2o9bo5b3o$
9bo47bo51bo$116b3o3b3o5bo$5b3o3b3o45b3o45b2o21bo$b2o105b2o10bo9bo$obo
6bo47bo49bo12bo$2bo6bo47bo62bo5b3o$9bo47bo29$89b3o$91bo$90bo! Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel googoIpIex Posts: 260 Joined: February 28th, 2019, 4:49 pm Location: Sqrt(-1) ### Re: Soup search results is there a way to synthesise this: Code: Select all x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23 2bobo$bo2bo$o3bo$obo$o!  because if so, we can get a very efficent synthesis of a 24-bitter: Code: Select all x = 23, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 bo$2bo$3o2bo14b2o$5bobo12b3o$5b2o12bobo$18b3o$18bo$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o!

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### Re: Soup search results

googoIpIex wrote:is there a way to synthesise this:

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junk reaction

because if so, we can get a very efficent synthesis of a 24-bitter:

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junk reaction hits a bakery

The original soup should provide some clues, if you have it.
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