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Re: Soup search results

Post by wwei23 » October 11th, 2018, 10:26 pm

carybe found a Schick engine in 1x256.

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x = 256, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
oooobbooobooboobobobbbooobbbbboobooobobbooooboboobbooobbobbboobbbbbbbobobbbbooobbbbbbooooooobooboboobobbobbobooobboobbobbboboooobbbbboobbobooboobboobbobbbbbboooooboooobbooobboooooboooobooooboobbbbbbobobbooboobbbbbbboooooboobobbbobooboobobbbobobobbbboobbbob!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » October 11th, 2018, 10:57 pm

New sparky p14 shuttle found by carybe (again):

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o5$2b2o3b2o$b2o5b2o$o2bo3bo2bo$obo5bobo$3o5b3o3$b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o!
It has exactly the same symmetry as the tumbler, and even looks a bit like a larger version of it. Isn't there some pond hassler wick that this could support? The oscillator looks like a semi-useful sparker, although p14 isn't too common of a period sparker to need. (I knew I kept fruitlessly checking all those p14 census categories for years for a reason.)

Two soups so far:

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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobbobbbboboobob$
bbbbobbooobooboo$
oooobbobobbboobb$
oobbooboooooboob$
obooooooooobbboo$
oboooobbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobooobobboo$
oobboooobbobbobb$
oooooobobobooooo$
bboooooobooobboo$
bbbobbbboobooobb$
oboobbooooobbobo$
oboooobobobooboo$
bobobooboobobbbo$
bbboooobobbooooo$
obbboobbbooooobb$
bbboooobobbooooo$
bobobooboobobbbo$
oboooobobobooboo$
oboobbooooobbobo$
bbbobbbboobooobb$
bboooooobooobboo$
oooooobobobooooo$
oobboooobbobbobb$
obbooobooobobboo$
oboooobbbbbbbbbb$
obooooooooobbboo$
oobbooboooooboob$
oooobbobobbboobb$
bbbbobbooobooboo$
oobbobbbboboobob!

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobooobobobbbbobobbbboboboooboo$
obobbbobbbbobobbbobobbbbobbbobo$
bbbbobobooobbbbobbbbooobobobbbb$
oobobbbbobooboobooboobobbbboboo$
oobbobbbobbobobobobobbobbbobboo$
oobbooobbbbbbooooobbbbbbooobboo$
obobobbooboboooboooboboobbobobo$
boobbobbbbbooobobooobbbbbobboob$
boooooobboobbobobobboobboooooob$
bbboobbobbobobbbbbobobbobboobbb$
oobbbobobooobbooobbooobobobbboo$
bbbooobobbobbobobobbobbobooobbb$
oooobbbbbbbbbooboobbbbbbbbboooo$
obbooobooobbbooooobbbooobooobbo$
oobbobbobbobobooobobobbobbobboo$
boboobbbbobooboooboobobbbboobob$
oobbobbobbobobooobobobbobbobboo$
obbooobooobbbooooobbbooobooobbo$
oooobbbbbbbbbooboobbbbbbbbboooo$
bbbooobobbobbobobobbobbobooobbb$
oobbbobobooobbooobbooobobobbboo$
bbboobbobbobobbbbbobobbobboobbb$
boooooobboobbobobobboobboooooob$
boobbobbbbbooobobooobbbbbobboob$
obobobbooboboooboooboboobbobobo$
oobbooobbbbbbooooobbbbbbooobboo$
oobbobbbobbobobobobobbobbbobboo$
oobobbbbobooboobooboobobbbboboo$
bbbbobobooobbbbobbbbooobobobbbb$
obobbbobbbbobobbbobobbbbobbbobo$
oobooobobobbbbobobbbboboboooboo!
Both soups suggest possible syntheses, although of radically different types (L-tetromino+phi+blinker+block mirrored for the first, and disintegrating large SL plus blocks for the second).

EDIT: Also, yet another p30 stabilization found by carybe, this time from D8_4:

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x = 46, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
17b2o8b2o$17b2o8b2o4$18bo8bo$17b3o6b3o$16bo3bo4bo3bo$15bob3obo2bob3obo$16b5o
4b5o6$8bo28bo$7bobo12b2o12bobo$2o4bob2o11bo2bo11b2obo4b2o$2o3b2ob2o11bo2bo11b
2ob2o3b2o$6bob2o12b2o12b2obo$7bobo26bobo$8bo8b2o8b2o8bo$16bo2bo6bo2bo$16bo2bo
6bo2bo$8bo8b2o8b2o8bo$7bobo26bobo$6bob2o12b2o12b2obo$2o3b2ob2o11bo2bo11b2ob2o
3b2o$2o4bob2o11bo2bo11b2obo4b2o$7bobo12b2o12bobo$8bo28bo6$16b5o4b5o$15bob3obo
2bob3obo$16bo3bo4bo3bo$17b3o6b3o$18bo8bo4$17b2o8b2o$17b2o8b2o!

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
ooobbobboooboobooboobooobbobbooo$
oboooooboobbobbbbbbobboobooooobo$
oobbobooboobboobboobbooboobobboo$
bobooboboobooobbbbooobooboboobob$
boooobobbbobbobbbbobbobbboboooob$
oobbbooooboobboooobbooboooobbboo$
booooobboobbobobbobobboobbooooob$
bbobboboboobbbbbbbbbboobobobbobb$
ooboboobobooboobbooboobobooboboo$
oooobboobbobobobbobobobboobboooo$
obobooboooobooobbooobooooboobobo$
bbbobobbobbbboooooobbbbobbobobbb$
oobobbobbooboobbbbooboobbobboboo$
obooobbboboooooooooooobobbbooobo$
bbobboobooooboboobobooooboobbobb$
obbbbobbbbboboobboobobbbbbobbbbo$
obbbbobbbbboboobboobobbbbbobbbbo$
bbobboobooooboboobobooooboobbobb$
obooobbboboooooooooooobobbbooobo$
oobobbobbooboobbbbooboobbobboboo$
bbbobobbobbbboooooobbbbobbobobbb$
obobooboooobooobbooobooooboobobo$
oooobboobbobobobbobobobboobboooo$
ooboboobobooboobbooboobobooboboo$
bbobboboboobbbbbbbbbboobobobbobb$
booooobboobbobobbobobboobbooooob$
oobbbooooboobboooobbooboooobbboo$
boooobobbbobbobbbbobbobbboboooob$
bobooboboobooobbbbooobooboboobob$
oobbobooboobboobboobbooboobobboo$
oboooooboobbobbbbbbobboobooooobo$
ooobbobboooboobooboobooobbobbooo!
And a new copperhead soup:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oooobobobbboobboobboobbboboboooo$
oooobobbobobbbobbobbbobobboboooo$
oooobbobooooobboobbooooobobboooo$
oooboobbbbooobboobbooobbbboobooo$
bbbobbobobboobboobboobbobobbobbb$
oobobobbooobboobboobbooobboboboo$
bboboboooboobbboobbboobooobobobb$
obbbbbobbobbobboobbobbobbobbbbbo$
boobooobooooboooooobooooboooboob$
bbobbobooooooobbbbooooooobobbobb$
boooboobooboboboobobobooboobooob$
oboooboboooboobooboobooobobooobo$
obooobboboboobbbbbboobobobbooobo$
bbbbbobboooobooooooboooobbobbbbb$
bobbbobbobbbbobbbbobbbbobbobbbob$
oboooboooboobobooboboobooobooobo$
oboooboooboobobooboboobooobooobo$
bobbbobbobbbbobbbbobbbbobbobbbob$
bbbbbobboooobooooooboooobbobbbbb$
obooobboboboobbbbbboobobobbooobo$
oboooboboooboobooboobooobobooobo$
boooboobooboboboobobobooboobooob$
bbobbobooooooobbbbooooooobobbobb$
boobooobooooboooooobooooboooboob$
obbbbbobbobbobboobbobbobbobbbbbo$
bboboboooboobbboobbboobooobobobb$
oobobobbooobboobboobbooobboboboo$
bbbobbobobboobboobboobbobobbobbb$
oooboobbbbooobboobbooobbbboobooo$
oooobbobooooobboobbooooobobboooo$
oooobobbobobbbobbobbbobobboboooo$
oooobobobbboobboobboobbboboboooo!
Sadly, the fact that the ship forms at gen. 4 precludes the possibility of a synthesis arising from it.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by gmc_nxtman » October 11th, 2018, 11:02 pm

That's really nice, congrats to carybe for finding it. I would be surprised if it didn't have some use as a sparker.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Sokwe » October 12th, 2018, 12:14 am

A for awesome wrote:New sparky p14 shuttle found by carybe (again)
Very nice! By the way, can we please post new oscillator discoveries in the oscillator discussion thread? When it comes time to update the oscillator collection it would be nice to have (almost) everything in one place.

It can reflect gliders, but unfortunately this doesn't work on a p14 stream:

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x = 21, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o5$9bo$7bobo$8b2o$11bo$10bo2bo$7b2o5bo$6bo8bo3b2o$6bo8bo3b2o
$7bob2ob3o$11b2o2$11b2o$7bob2ob3o$6bo8bo3b2o$6bo8bo3b2o$7b2o5bo$10bo2b
o$11bo!
It might also be useful in the hunt for a p42 gun.
A for awesome wrote:Isn't there some pond hassler wick that this could support?
Yes it can:

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x = 84, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
72b2o5b2o$72b2o5b2o4$59b2o11b2o5b2o$59b2o10bo2bo3bo2bo$70bo3bo3bo3bo$
74b2ob2o$59b2o4b2o2bo5bobo5bo$58bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3bo3bo3bo$54bo3bo2bo2bo
2bo6bo3bo$53bo2bo2b2o4b2o4bo9bo$52bo18bo2bo3bo2bo$52bo4bo14b2o5b2o$51b
o13b2o$52bo3bo8b2o$53b2o$57b2o$45b2o8bo3bo$45b2o13bo$54bo4bo$59bo$45b
2o4b2o2bo2bo$44bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$40bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$39bo2bo2b2o4b2o$38bo$
38bo4bo$37bo13b2o$38bo3bo8b2o$39b2o$43b2o$31b2o8bo3bo$31b2o13bo$40bo4b
o$45bo$31b2o4b2o2bo2bo$30bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$26bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$25bo2bo2b2o4b
2o$24bo$24bo4bo$23bo13b2o$24bo3bo8b2o$25b2o$29b2o$17b2o8bo3bo$17b2o13b
o$3b2o5b2o14bo4bo$2bo2bo3bo2bo18bo$2bo9bo4b2o4b2o2bo2bo$5bo3bo6bo2bo2b
o2bo3bo$bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$o5bobo5bo2b2o4b2o$5b2ob2o$bo3bo3bo3bo$
2bo2bo3bo2bo10b2o$3b2o5b2o11b2o4$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o!
Scorbie had already solved this problem with a p14 bi-block hassler, but this new oscillator is much smaller.

Edit: it gives new record smallest p28 and p42 oscillators:

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x = 62, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o31b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o31b2o5b2o4$4bobo37bobo2$b3o3b3o31b3o3b3o$o9bo
29bo9bo$3o5b3o5b2o22b3o5b3o$bo7bo5bo2bo22bo7bo5b2o$14bobobo36b2o$14bo
2bo$b2o5b2o3bo27b2o5b2o5bo$b2o5b2o4bobo24b2o5b2o4bobo$54bo2bo2b2o$58bo
b2o$56b2o!
Edit 2: who is "carybe"? Are they even aware that they're making significant discoveries?
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Re: Soup search results

Post by KittyTac » October 12th, 2018, 1:15 am

Judging by the lifeviewer, it works on a p14 stream. What do you mean?

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 12th, 2018, 1:20 am

Congratulations to carybe on the new 14! Here is a 20-glider synthesis of 34p14.1, based on the first soup:

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x = 161, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
44bo$42boo$43boo$38bobo$39boo$39bo3$72b3o37b3o$44bo56bo$bbo42bo56boo$o
bo19boo19b3o6boo24bo3boo17boo15bo3boo$boo19boo28boo23bobobboo33bobobb
oo$46b3o28bobo37bobo31boo$bo46bo29bo29bo9bo27boobboobo5boo$boo44bo58bo
bo37boo3bobo5boo$obo104boo44bo$155bo$$9b3o143bo$9bo88boo53bo$10bo11boo
28boo12boo14boo15boo5boo14boo6bo15boo3bobo5boo$22boo11b3o14boo12boo14b
oo14bo7boo14boo5boo15boobboobo5boo$37bo91bobo19boo$36bo67bo7boo$38b3o
61bobo8boo$38bo64boo7bo$39bo3$110boo$109bobo18bo$111bo17boo$129bobo$
105b3o6bo$107bo6boo$106bo6bobo$129bo$128boo$128bobo!
EDIT:
KittyTac wrote:Judging by the lifeviewer, it works on a p14 stream. What do you mean?
The reflection reaction delays the glider by 2 ticks. If the second incoming glider follows the first by 16 or fewer steps, it will hit the reflected first glider, so 28 is the minimum usable period.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Ian07 » October 15th, 2018, 6:05 am

Thanks to carybe and Apple Bottom, the D8_1 census has just surpassed D8_4 in terms of number of objects. Crazy to think how just 2 months ago it had reached 5 trillion objects and now it's getting close to 10 trillion.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by KittyTac » October 15th, 2018, 10:58 am

It's interesting how carybe didn't show up here or on the discord. Is he/she going to help the community from the shadows?

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Re: Soup search results

Post by 2718281828 » October 15th, 2018, 12:06 pm

KittyTac wrote:It's interesting how carybe didn't show up here or on the discord. Is he/she going to help the community from the shadows?
A block can be removed while replacing it by a p14 glider stream:

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x = 39, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
38bo$36b2o$37b2o2$33bobo$33b2o$34bo$31bo$29b2o$30b2o2$26bobo$26b2o$27b
o$24bo$22b2o$23b2o2$19bobo$19b2o$20bo$17bo$15b2o$5b2o9b2o$2o2b2obo$2o
3bobo$7bo$9bo2$9bo$7bo$2o3bobo5b2o$2o2b2obo5b2o$5b2o!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » October 18th, 2018, 5:43 pm

New p46 shuttle stabilization:

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x = 53, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
22b2o5b2o$22b2o5b2o$18bo15bo$17bobo13bobo$17b2o15b2o2$22b3o3b3o$21bo2bo3bo2bo
$21b2obo3bob2o9$3b2o43b2o$2bobo43bobo$3bo45bo2$7b2o35b2o$2o4bobo35bobo4b2o$2o
4bo39bo4b2o$6b3o35b3o4$6b3o35b3o$2o4bo39bo4b2o$2o4bobo35bobo4b2o$7b2o35b2o2$
3bo45bo$2bobo43bobo$3b2o43b2o9$21b2obo3bob2o$21bo2bo3bo2bo$22b3o3b3o2$17b2o
15b2o$17bobo13bobo$18bo15bo$22b2o5b2o$22b2o5b2o!
It is shorter by one row than the existing shortest stabilization. Reductions?

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x = 17, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o5b2o2b2o$5b2o9b2o$bo$obo$2o2$5b3o3b3o$4bo2bo3bo2bo$4b2obo3bob2o16$5b2o$5b2o!
The catalysis also works on a solitary B, but I haven't tested to see whether the result can be perturbed in any useful way.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Sokwe » October 18th, 2018, 6:42 pm

A for awesome wrote:New p46 shuttle stabilization...
It is shorter by one row than the existing shortest stabilization. Reductions?
It will probably reduce most of the guns that use twin bees technology. For example, here is the p23 gun:

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x = 66, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A20.B.9B.B3.A2BA$2.A.A16.B.8B3A6B.A3B$2.BA16.10BA4BA9BA$3.2B2.9B.B
2.9BA5BA8B2A$.8B2A19BA8BA3B.B$2A6BA2B2A18B2A8B2A$2A5B6A9B19.B$.B.6B4A
18B2A7BA2B$4.26BA9BA2B$20.9BA5BA7B18.2A$4.17B.8BA4BA7B18.A.A$.B.6B4A
18B3A8B20.AB$2A5B6A9B2.12B.B3.4B3.B.9B2.2B$2A6BA2B2A9B3.4B12.4B.19B$.
8B2A9B6.2BAB10.2A14B3A5B2A$3.2B2.9B.B9.2B2A9.2A12BA3BA5B2A$2.BA24.2A
2B9.B.10BA4BA4B.B$2.A.A24.4B10.10BA3BA4B$3.2A25.4B6.3B.B.3B$31.4B5.3B
3A7BA3BA4B$32.4B2.3B2ABAB2A5BA4BA4B.B$7.4B3.B.9B.3B.A.9B2A5BA5BA3BA5B
2A$7.4B.5BA10B5A8B2ABAB2A8B3A5B2A$6.2A8B2A9B2ABA2BA9B3A19B$6.2A7B2A9B
A7BA8B.B.3B.9B2.2B$7.B.7B2A2B2A5B2ABA2BA7B21.AB$9.19B5A2B3.BABA19.A.A
$26.3B.A.3B4.B2AB18.2A$9.23B8.A3B$7.B.7B2A2B2A10B.B7.4B$6.2A7B2A16B2A
7.4B$6.2A8B2A15B2A8.3BA$7.4B.5BA11B.4B10.3BA$7.4B3.B.9B.B3.4B11.3AB!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by calcyman » October 18th, 2018, 7:08 pm

Sokwe wrote:Also, this is another one of those things that belongs in the oscillator discussion thread.
I think it belongs in both places -- it is, after all, a soup search result. /attribute reports Apple Bottom and carybe as the discoverers.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Sokwe » October 18th, 2018, 9:19 pm

calcyman wrote:I think it belongs in both places -- it is, after all, a soup search result.
That's fine, although followup discussion will usually be more relevant to another thread. In this particular case most followup discussion probably belongs in the gun reduction thread.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » October 19th, 2018, 1:06 pm

Quadruple QB shuttle:

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x = 63, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
12bo9bo17bo9bo$11b2o9b2o15b2o9b2o$2o8b2o11b2o13b2o11b2o8b2o$2o7b3o11b3o11b3o
11b3o7b2o$10b2o11b2o13b2o11b2o$11b2o9b2o15b2o9b2o$12bo9bo17bo9bo!

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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
booobooobbbooobb$
obbobboobbooobbb$
bbbbboboobbbbobo$
boobobboobbooobo$
ooobbbbbbbbobboo$
bbobbbooboboobbo$
bbbboobbbbbobobb$
ooobobbbbboboboo$
ooobbbobbbbooooo$
boobobbbobbobboo$
ooobobbbooooooob$
obbboooooobbbboo$
bboooboboobobbbb$
bboooobobooooooo$
oooooobboobbobob$
bobbbobbboooboob$
oooooobboobbobob$
bboooobobooooooo$
bboooboboobobbbb$
obbboooooobbbboo$
ooobobbbooooooob$
boobobbbobbobboo$
ooobbbobbbbooooo$
ooobobbbbboboboo$
bbbboobbbbbobobb$
bbobbbooboboobbo$
ooobbbbbbbbobboo$
boobobboobbooobo$
bbbbboboobbbbobo$
obbobboobbooobbb$
booobooobbbooobb!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Entity Valkyrie » October 20th, 2018, 12:56 am

Wow! That;s improessibve. Although the oscilator is well tknwon.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » October 23rd, 2018, 12:57 am

24P10 has shown up on Catagolue:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
obbbobooboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obooooobobbbbobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbooobbboobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bboboooboobbbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obbbbobboobooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obboobobbooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Ian07 » October 26th, 2018, 4:09 pm

Third occurrence of 34p14 shuttle, and second one in D4_+1:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
boooboobboboobbbbboobobboobooob$
oobobbooobbbobobobobbbooobboboo$
ooboboboboobobbobbobooboboboboo$
bbooobobbobobooboobobobbobooobb$
obbbbbboobbooooboooobboobbbbbbo$
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bboooobboooobbbbbbboooobboooobb$
oobbbbbbobbbbbooobbbbbobbbbbboo$
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boooboobboboobbbbboobobboobooob!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » October 27th, 2018, 10:05 am

This xp16, xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33, showed up on Catagolue this last week:

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#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33/b3s23
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
10b2o3b2o$10b2o3b2o$6bo$2o3b2o$2o2bo10bo$5bo3b2o2b2obo$5bo3bo6b2o$$2o$
2o3bo7b2o$5b2o7bo3b2o$18b2o$$2b2o6bo3bo$3bob2o2b2o3bo$4bo10bo2b2o$13b2o
3b2o$13bo$3b2o3b2o$3b2o3b2o!
Soup:

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#C xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33
#C C4_4 sample soup 1 of 1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33/b3s23/C4_4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_4/l_LTvxUZJneLJK6886298/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_4/958b900747c60959621df874c01d0290
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oooooooobobbooobbbboobbbobobbboo$
obbbbbooboooooobobooboobbobbbbbo$
bbobooobbboooobbooboboobbobboobo$
bboobboooobbobooobooooooooboobbo$
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Re: Soup search results

Post by dani » October 27th, 2018, 7:40 pm

Is this stabilization of the queen bee known?

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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bobo$2o3bo4bo$obo5bobo$bo5bobo11b2o$6bo2bo11b2o$bo5bobo$obo5bobo
$2o3bo4bo$4bobo$5b2o!
Here's the object (fourfold)

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Ian07 » October 27th, 2018, 11:01 pm

danny wrote:Is this stabilization of the queen bee known?

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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bobo$2o3bo4bo$obo5bobo$bo5bobo11b2o$6bo2bo11b2o$bo5bobo$obo5bobo
$2o3bo4bo$4bobo$5b2o!
Here's the object (fourfold)

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Well, there's a comment on it dating from August, so yes.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » October 28th, 2018, 12:57 pm

An unusual p4:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo11bo$2bobo7b3o$3bob2obo2bo$5bobo4bo$5bo2b4o$3bobo5bo$4bo5bo$3bo5bobo$
3b4o2bo$2bo4bobo$3bo2bob2obo$3o7bobo$o11bo$12b2o!

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
booboobboboboboobboobbbooboobob$
oboobbboobbobbbooooboobbbbobbbo$
bboobbbboboooobbbobobbbbbbobooo$
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bobboobboooboooboobboooboooobbb$
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Re: Soup search results

Post by rliston » October 28th, 2018, 1:21 pm

Found this 20x20 soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~23B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine.

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#Life 1.05
#D Wilma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilma_Flintstone)
#D L=39693
#D I=197
#D F=3524
#D Rob Liston 10-28-2018
#N
#P -10.0 -10.0
*..*.**..*.*..*.....
**..**.***.*.**..***
.**..*...*.******...
**.*....****.*...**.
*.*.**.*..***.*****.
.**.***.****..**.***
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Gamedziner » October 28th, 2018, 1:45 pm

rliston wrote:Found this soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~7B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine.

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#Life 1.05
#D Wilma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilma_Flintstone)
#D L=39693
#D I=197
#D F=3524
#D Rob Liston (rliston@gmail.com)
#N
#P -10.0 -10.0
*..*.**..*.*..*.....
**..**.***.*.**..***
.**..*...*.******...
**.*....****.*...**.
*.*.**.*..***.*****.
.**.***.****..**.***
.**......*..*****.**
.*......*.*.***.*..*
*...*.***.***...*.*.
.**..**.*.***.......
.****...*....**.*...
**..******.*.....*.*
.*.***.***.*.*....*.
*.*.*.*.*...***...**
**.*.*.**...**.****.
*.**.**......*.*..*.
*...**.**.**.*....*.
*******......*....*.
..**.*.......**..***
*...***..*...***..*.
Two things: first, welcome to the forums!
Second, I was going to mention how methuselahs are not usually considered important, but in this case you seem to have broken a record: This pattern lasts longer than Fred, previously the longest-lasting methuselah known with a 20-by-20 bounding box. Congratulations!

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by calcyman » October 28th, 2018, 1:52 pm

Very impressive! I'm intrigued to hear more about your FPGA search program.

It does prompt the question: if apgsearch tracked the lifespans of soups, what would the current record-breaker be? Over 10 trillion soups have been sampled in Catagolue, but long-lived soups aren't currently filtered.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by rliston » October 28th, 2018, 2:57 pm

calcyman wrote:Very impressive! I'm intrigued to hear more about your FPGA search program.

It does prompt the question: if apgsearch tracked the lifespans of soups, what would the current record-breaker be? Over 10 trillion soups have been sampled in Catagolue, but long-lived soups aren't currently filtered.
My FPGA code is checked in to https://github.com/rliston/life-soup along with 288 20x20 soups with lifespan 25K+. It is currently running on a Xilinx EK-U1-VCU118-G evaluation board but with some effort the verilog code could be ported to run on AWS F1 instances e.g. https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/f1/ although TBH I'm not sure it's any faster (~2550 soups/second) than software search.
Also, I miscounted and this pattern was found after searching 23B random patterns over 3 months.

Thanks,
Rob

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