## Soup search results

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### Re: Soup search results

carybe found a Schick engine in 1x256.

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x = 256, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
oooobbooobooboobobobbbooobbbbboobooobobbooooboboobbooobbobbboobbbbbbbobobbbbooobbbbbbooooooobooboboobobbobbobooobboobbobbboboooobbbbboobbobooboobboobbobbbbbboooooboooobbooobboooooboooobooooboobbbbbbobobbooboobbbbbbboooooboobobbbobooboobobbbobobobbbboobbbob!

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### Re: Soup search results

New sparky p14 shuttle found by carybe (again):

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o5$2b2o3b2o$b2o5b2o$o2bo3bo2bo$obo5bobo$3o5b3o3$b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o!
It has exactly the same symmetry as the tumbler, and even looks a bit like a larger version of it. Isn't there some pond hassler wick that this could support? The oscillator looks like a semi-useful sparker, although p14 isn't too common of a period sparker to need. (I knew I kept fruitlessly checking all those p14 census categories for years for a reason.)

Two soups so far:

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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobbobbbboboobob$bbbbobbooobooboo$
oooobbobobbboobb$oobbooboooooboob$
obooooooooobbboo$oboooobbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobooobobboo$oobboooobbobbobb$
oooooobobobooooo$bboooooobooobboo$
bbbobbbboobooobb$oboobbooooobbobo$
oboooobobobooboo$bobobooboobobbbo$
bbboooobobbooooo$obbboobbbooooobb$
bbboooobobbooooo$bobobooboobobbbo$
oboooobobobooboo$oboobbooooobbobo$
bbbobbbboobooobb$bboooooobooobboo$
oooooobobobooooo$oobboooobbobbobb$
obbooobooobobboo$oboooobbbbbbbbbb$
obooooooooobbboo$oobbooboooooboob$
oooobbobobbboobb$bbbbobbooobooboo$
oobbobbbboboobob!

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobooobobobbbbobobbbboboboooboo$obobbbobbbbobobbbobobbbbobbbobo$
bbbbobobooobbbbobbbbooobobobbbb$oobobbbbobooboobooboobobbbboboo$
oobbobbbobbobobobobobbobbbobboo$oobbooobbbbbbooooobbbbbbooobboo$
obobobbooboboooboooboboobbobobo$boobbobbbbbooobobooobbbbbobboob$
boooooobboobbobobobboobboooooob$bbboobbobbobobbbbbobobbobboobbb$
oobbbobobooobbooobbooobobobbboo$bbbooobobbobbobobobbobbobooobbb$
oooobbbbbbbbbooboobbbbbbbbboooo$obbooobooobbbooooobbbooobooobbo$
oobbobbobbobobooobobobbobbobboo$boboobbbbobooboooboobobbbboobob$
oobbobbobbobobooobobobbobbobboo$obbooobooobbbooooobbbooobooobbo$
oooobbbbbbbbbooboobbbbbbbbboooo$bbbooobobbobbobobobbobbobooobbb$
oobbbobobooobbooobbooobobobbboo$bbboobbobbobobbbbbobobbobboobbb$
boooooobboobbobobobboobboooooob$boobbobbbbbooobobooobbbbbobboob$
obobobbooboboooboooboboobbobobo$oobbooobbbbbbooooobbbbbbooobboo$
oobbobbbobbobobobobobbobbbobboo$oobobbbbobooboobooboobobbbboboo$
bbbbobobooobbbbobbbbooobobobbbb$obobbbobbbbobobbbobobbbbobbbobo$
oobooobobobbbbobobbbboboboooboo!
Both soups suggest possible syntheses, although of radically different types (L-tetromino+phi+blinker+block mirrored for the first, and disintegrating large SL plus blocks for the second).

EDIT: Also, yet another p30 stabilization found by carybe, this time from D8_4:

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x = 46, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
17b2o8b2o$17b2o8b2o4$18bo8bo$17b3o6b3o$16bo3bo4bo3bo$15bob3obo2bob3obo$16b5o
4b5o6$8bo28bo$7bobo12b2o12bobo$2o4bob2o11bo2bo11b2obo4b2o$2o3b2ob2o11bo2bo11b
2ob2o3b2o$6bob2o12b2o12b2obo$7bobo26bobo$8bo8b2o8b2o8bo$16bo2bo6bo2bo$16bo2bo 6bo2bo$8bo8b2o8b2o8bo$7bobo26bobo$6bob2o12b2o12b2obo$2o3b2ob2o11bo2bo11b2ob2o 3b2o$2o4bob2o11bo2bo11b2obo4b2o$7bobo12b2o12bobo$8bo28bo6$16b5o4b5o$15bob3obo
2bob3obo$16bo3bo4bo3bo$17b3o6b3o$18bo8bo4$17b2o8b2o$17b2o8b2o! Code: Select all x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23 ooobbobboooboobooboobooobbobbooo$
oboooooboobbobbbbbbobboobooooobo$oobbobooboobboobboobbooboobobboo$
bobooboboobooobbbbooobooboboobob$boooobobbbobbobbbbobbobbboboooob$
oobbbooooboobboooobbooboooobbboo$booooobboobbobobbobobboobbooooob$
bbobboboboobbbbbbbbbboobobobbobb$ooboboobobooboobbooboobobooboboo$
oooobboobbobobobbobobobboobboooo$obobooboooobooobbooobooooboobobo$
bbbobobbobbbboooooobbbbobbobobbb$oobobbobbooboobbbbooboobbobboboo$
obooobbboboooooooooooobobbbooobo$bbobboobooooboboobobooooboobbobb$
obbbbobbbbboboobboobobbbbbobbbbo$obbbbobbbbboboobboobobbbbbobbbbo$
bbobboobooooboboobobooooboobbobb$obooobbboboooooooooooobobbbooobo$
oobobbobbooboobbbbooboobbobboboo$bbbobobbobbbboooooobbbbobbobobbb$
obobooboooobooobbooobooooboobobo$oooobboobbobobobbobobobboobboooo$
ooboboobobooboobbooboobobooboboo$bbobboboboobbbbbbbbbboobobobbobb$
booooobboobbobobbobobboobbooooob$oobbbooooboobboooobbooboooobbboo$
boooobobbbobbobbbbobbobbboboooob$bobooboboobooobbbbooobooboboobob$
oobbobooboobboobboobbooboobobboo$oboooooboobbobbbbbbobboobooooobo$
ooobbobboooboobooboobooobbobbooo!

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oooobobobbboobboobboobbboboboooo$oooobobbobobbbobbobbbobobboboooo$
oooobbobooooobboobbooooobobboooo$oooboobbbbooobboobbooobbbboobooo$
bbbobbobobboobboobboobbobobbobbb$oobobobbooobboobboobbooobboboboo$
bboboboooboobbboobbboobooobobobb$obbbbbobbobbobboobbobbobbobbbbbo$
boobooobooooboooooobooooboooboob$bbobbobooooooobbbbooooooobobbobb$
boooboobooboboboobobobooboobooob$oboooboboooboobooboobooobobooobo$
obooobboboboobbbbbboobobobbooobo$bbbbbobboooobooooooboooobbobbbbb$
bobbbobbobbbbobbbbobbbbobbobbbob$oboooboooboobobooboboobooobooobo$
oboooboooboobobooboboobooobooobo$bobbbobbobbbbobbbbobbbbobbobbbob$
bbbbbobboooobooooooboooobbobbbbb$obooobboboboobbbbbboobobobbooobo$
oboooboboooboobooboobooobobooobo$boooboobooboboboobobobooboobooob$
bbobbobooooooobbbbooooooobobbobb$boobooobooooboooooobooooboooboob$
obbbbbobbobbobboobbobbobbobbbbbo$bboboboooboobbboobbboobooobobobb$
oobobobbooobboobboobbooobboboboo$bbbobbobobboobboobboobbobobbobbb$
oooboobbbbooobboobbooobbbboobooo$oooobbobooooobboobbooooobobboooo$
oooobobbobobbbobbobbbobobboboooo$oooobobobbboobboobboobbboboboooo! Sadly, the fact that the ship forms at gen. 4 precludes the possibility of a synthesis arising from it. Last edited by A for awesome on October 11th, 2018, 11:05 pm, edited 1 time in total. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Soup search results That's really nice, congrats to carybe for finding it. I would be surprised if it didn't have some use as a sparker. Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1480 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Soup search results A for awesome wrote:New sparky p14 shuttle found by carybe (again) Very nice! By the way, can we please post new oscillator discoveries in the oscillator discussion thread? When it comes time to update the oscillator collection it would be nice to have (almost) everything in one place. It can reflect gliders, but unfortunately this doesn't work on a p14 stream: Code: Select all x = 21, y = 25, rule = B3/S23 2bo$obo$b2o5$9bo$7bobo$8b2o$11bo$10bo2bo$7b2o5bo$6bo8bo3b2o$6bo8bo3b2o$7bob2ob3o$11b2o2$11b2o$7bob2ob3o$6bo8bo3b2o$6bo8bo3b2o$7b2o5bo$10bo2b o$11bo!
It might also be useful in the hunt for a p42 gun.
A for awesome wrote:Isn't there some pond hassler wick that this could support?
Yes it can:

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x = 84, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
72b2o5b2o$72b2o5b2o4$59b2o11b2o5b2o$59b2o10bo2bo3bo2bo$70bo3bo3bo3bo$74b2ob2o$59b2o4b2o2bo5bobo5bo$58bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3bo3bo3bo$54bo3bo2bo2bo
2bo6bo3bo$53bo2bo2b2o4b2o4bo9bo$52bo18bo2bo3bo2bo$52bo4bo14b2o5b2o$51b
o13b2o$52bo3bo8b2o$53b2o$57b2o$45b2o8bo3bo$45b2o13bo$54bo4bo$59bo$45b
2o4b2o2bo2bo$44bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$40bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$39bo2bo2b2o4b2o$38bo$38bo4bo$37bo13b2o$38bo3bo8b2o$39b2o$43b2o$31b2o8bo3bo$31b2o13bo$40bo4b
o$45bo$31b2o4b2o2bo2bo$30bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$26bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$25bo2bo2b2o4b 2o$24bo$24bo4bo$23bo13b2o$24bo3bo8b2o$25b2o$29b2o$17b2o8bo3bo$17b2o13b o$3b2o5b2o14bo4bo$2bo2bo3bo2bo18bo$2bo9bo4b2o4b2o2bo2bo$5bo3bo6bo2bo2b o2bo3bo$bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$o5bobo5bo2b2o4b2o$5b2ob2o$bo3bo3bo3bo$
2bo2bo3bo2bo10b2o$3b2o5b2o11b2o4$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o! Scorbie had already solved this problem with a p14 bi-block hassler, but this new oscillator is much smaller. Edit: it gives new record smallest p28 and p42 oscillators: Code: Select all x = 62, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 b2o5b2o31b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o31b2o5b2o4$4bobo37bobo2$b3o3b3o31b3o3b3o$o9bo 29bo9bo$3o5b3o5b2o22b3o5b3o$bo7bo5bo2bo22bo7bo5b2o$14bobobo36b2o$14bo 2bo$b2o5b2o3bo27b2o5b2o5bo$b2o5b2o4bobo24b2o5b2o4bobo$54bo2bo2b2o$58bo b2o$56b2o!
Edit 2: who is "carybe"? Are they even aware that they're making significant discoveries?
-Matthias Merzenich

KittyTac
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### Re: Soup search results

Judging by the lifeviewer, it works on a p14 stream. What do you mean?

mniemiec
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### Re: Soup search results

Congratulations to carybe on the new 14! Here is a 20-glider synthesis of 34p14.1, based on the first soup:

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x = 161, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
44bo$42boo$43boo$38bobo$39boo$39bo3$72b3o37b3o$44bo56bo$bbo42bo56boo$o bo19boo19b3o6boo24bo3boo17boo15bo3boo$boo19boo28boo23bobobboo33bobobb
2o3bo7b2o$5b2o7bo3b2o$18b2o$$2b2o6bo3bo3bob2o2b2o3bo4bo10bo2b2o13b2o 3b2o13bo3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o!  Soup: Code: Select all #C xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33 #C C4_4 sample soup 1 of 1 #C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp16_oowg8cx33xj3zooxjx31whh032zw8o0hhwgoxpx33zxopxoox621w33/b3s23/C4_4 #C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_4/l_LTvxUZJneLJK6886298/b3s23 #C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_4/958b900747c60959621df874c01d0290 x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23 oooooooobobbooobbbboobbbobobbboo obbbbbooboooooobobooboobbobbbbbo bbobooobbboooobbooboboobbobboobo bboobboooobbobooobooooooooboobbo bbboobobbobobooobobobobboboobobo obbbobbbbbbbbbboooobbbobobbbbobo booobboobboobboobbbbbbobbobooooo obboooboooboooooboobobbooobboboo bbbobbbobobbbooboboobbobobbbobbb booobooboobobbobobooooooobbooboo boooobbbbobbobbboobbobbbbobbboob obbobbbobooobbbbbbooobobooboboob ooooobbbooboobobbboobobbobbboooo boboboboooboobboobbbbbboobbobooo bboboobobbobbbboobbobboooobooboo booobobbooobboobboobbbbbooooobbb bbbooooobbbbboobboobbooobbobooob oobooboooobbobboobbbbobboboobobb ooobobboobbbbbboobboobooobobobob oooobbbobboboobbbobooboobbbooooo booboboobobooobbbbbbooobobbbobbo boobbbobbbbobboobbbobbobbbboooob ooboobbooooooobobobbobooboobooob bbbobbbobobbooboboobbbobobbbobbb oobobbooobboboobooooobooobooobbo ooooobobbobbbbbboobboobboobbooob obobbbbobobbboooobbbbbbbbbbobbbo oboboobobbobobobooobobobboboobbb obbooboooooooobooobobboooobboobb oboobbobbooboboobboooobbbooobobb obbbbbobbooboobobooooooboobbbbbo oobbbobobbboobbbbooobboboooooooo!  Haul: here (carybe, 2018-10-22) If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! danny Posts: 968 Joined: October 27th, 2017, 3:43 pm Location: New Jersey, USA Contact: ### Re: Soup search results Is this stabilization of the queen bee known? Code: Select all x = 23, y = 11, rule = B3/S23 5b2o4bobo2o3bo4boobo5bobobo5bobo11b2o6bo2bo11b2obo5boboobo5bobo 2o3bo4bo4bobo5b2o!  Here's the object (fourfold) Uknown discoverer. she/they // dani "I'm always on duty, even when I'm off duty." -Cody Kolodziejzyk, Ph.D. Ian07 Posts: 353 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Soup search results danny wrote:Is this stabilization of the queen bee known? Code: Select all x = 23, y = 11, rule = B3/S23 5b2o4bobo2o3bo4boobo5bobobo5bobo11b2o6bo2bo11b2obo5boboobo5bobo 2o3bo4bo4bobo5b2o!  Here's the object (fourfold) Uknown discoverer. Well, there's a comment on it dating from August, so yes. A for awesome Posts: 1902 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Soup search results An unusual p4: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 b2o2bo11bo2bobo7b3o3bob2obo2bo5bobo4bo5bo2b4o3bobo5bo4bo5bo3bo5bobo 3b4o2bo2bo4bobo3bo2bob2obo3o7boboo11bo12b2o! Code: Select all x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23 booboobboboboboobboobbbooboobob oboobbboobbobbbooooboobbbbobbbo bboobbbboboooobbbobobbbbbbobooo obbooboobooboboobooobbbobobooob ooobbbbbboobobooobboooobobbobbo bbbobobobobboooooboobooboobbbbo obbboooobobooobobobobbboobbobbb obbobbobobbobboooooobboboobobob bbbbooboboobobobbooooobobbbbooo bobboobboooboooboobboooboooobbb bobbobbboooobboooobbooobbbooobo obooooooobbboboobbobobboobbboob ooboboboobboooobboooboobooooobo booobboooooboobbooobbobboobbobb bobbooboboobbobobboooooobooobbo oobooooobboobbobobboobboooooboo obboooboooooobbobobbooboboobbob bbobboobbobbooobboobooooobbooob oboooooboobooobboooobbooboboboo boobbboobbobobboobobbbooooooobo obooobbbooobboooobboooobbbobbob bbboooobooobboobooobooobboobbob ooobbbbobooooobbobobooboboobbbb boboboobobboooooobbobbobobbobbo bbbobboobbboboboboooboboooobbbo obbbboobooboobooooobbobobobobbb obbobboboooobboooboboobbbbbbooo booobobobbbooobooboboobooboobbo ooobobbbbbbobobbboooobobbbboobb obbbobbbbooboooobbbobboobbboobo bobooboobbboobboobobobobbooboob! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)$$x_1=\eta xV^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}

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Aidan F. Pierce

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### Re: Soup search results

Found this 20x20 soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~23B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine.

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#Life 1.05
#D Wilma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilma_Flintstone)
#D L=39693
#D I=197
#D F=3524
#D Rob Liston 10-28-2018
#N
#P -10.0 -10.0
*..*.**..*.*..*.....
**..**.***.*.**..***
.**..*...*.******...
**.*....****.*...**.
*.*.**.*..***.*****.
.**.***.****..**.***
.**......*..*****.**
.*......*.*.***.*..*
*...*.***.***...*.*.
.**..**.*.***.......
.****...*....**.*...
**..******.*.....*.*
.*.***.***.*.*....*.
*.*.*.*.*...***...**
**.*.*.**...**.****.
*.**.**......*.*..*.
*...**.**.**.*....*.
*******......*....*.
..**.*.......**..***
*...***..*...***..*.

Last edited by rliston on October 28th, 2018, 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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### Re: Soup search results

rliston wrote:Found this soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~7B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine.

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#Life 1.05
#D Wilma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilma_Flintstone)
#D L=39693
#D I=197
#D F=3524
#D Rob Liston (rliston@gmail.com)
#N
#P -10.0 -10.0
*..*.**..*.*..*.....
**..**.***.*.**..***
.**..*...*.******...
**.*....****.*...**.
*.*.**.*..***.*****.
.**.***.****..**.***
.**......*..*****.**
.*......*.*.***.*..*
*...*.***.***...*.*.
.**..**.*.***.......
.****...*....**.*...
**..******.*.....*.*
.*.***.***.*.*....*.
*.*.*.*.*...***...**
**.*.*.**...**.****.
*.**.**......*.*..*.
*...**.**.**.*....*.
*******......*....*.
..**.*.......**..***
*...***..*...***..*.

Two things: first, welcome to the forums!
Second, I was going to mention how methuselahs are not usually considered important, but in this case you seem to have broken a record: This pattern lasts longer than Fred, previously the longest-lasting methuselah known with a 20-by-20 bounding box. Congratulations!

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27. A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A\$8.2A!


calcyman
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### Re: Soup search results

Very impressive! I'm intrigued to hear more about your FPGA search program.

It does prompt the question: if apgsearch tracked the lifespans of soups, what would the current record-breaker be? Over 10 trillion soups have been sampled in Catagolue, but long-lived soups aren't currently filtered.
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

rliston
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### Re: Soup search results

calcyman wrote:Very impressive! I'm intrigued to hear more about your FPGA search program.

It does prompt the question: if apgsearch tracked the lifespans of soups, what would the current record-breaker be? Over 10 trillion soups have been sampled in Catagolue, but long-lived soups aren't currently filtered.
My FPGA code is checked in to https://github.com/rliston/life-soup along with 288 20x20 soups with lifespan 25K+. It is currently running on a Xilinx EK-U1-VCU118-G evaluation board but with some effort the verilog code could be ported to run on AWS F1 instances e.g. https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/f1/ although TBH I'm not sure it's any faster (~2550 soups/second) than software search.
Also, I miscounted and this pattern was found after searching 23B random patterns over 3 months.

Thanks,
Rob