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RedGolpe
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Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 7:24 am

Hi guys, I'm exploring Catagolue for the first time, and I have a couple of questions. I'm not sure if this is the right forum, if so please excuse my noobness and feel free to move the thread to the appropriate one.

1. From the user page, one can see the most recent hauls: in the "Root" column, the link is either green, blue or red. What does that mean?

2. Is there an easy way to check the total number of objects submitted by a user? The census page only shows those for that specific rule, and unless one has provided a significant amount of hauls one must go the code anyway.

3. Is there some sort of a readable table when one can see their contribution compared to others, apart from the census page where, again, one must contribute significantly before even being visible?

4. Same as above, but for all rules?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by dani » June 21st, 2018, 7:34 am

Welcome! Let me answer these to the best of my abilities

1. Green usually means that the haul went through correctly, blue means that the haul got indexed by someone who was using the '/attribute' function (example), and red means there was some sort of error. You'll also see yellowish green, which means that the haul is still being checked by catagolue.
2. Unfortunately not, you can go to your 'userpage' (e.g. mine, just replace 'danny' in the url with whatever your name is on the site), and see a lineup for around the past three weeks, but there's no total counter.
3 and 4. Yes, but it involves inspect elementing the chart and doing some really complicated stuff, I forgot how to do it.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 7:39 am

Thanks!

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 7:48 am

Another question: in the case of "red" links (something went wrong), how can one know how to rectify the problem? They also seem to have been elaborated correctly (see this one for example).

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by calcyman » June 21st, 2018, 11:01 am

RedGolpe wrote:Another question: in the case of "red" links (something went wrong), how can one know how to rectify the problem? They also seem to have been elaborated correctly (see this one for example).
Okay, I've looked at the diagnosis for one of your 'red' hauls:

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l_XGsYWawJVerv: 1089.1815272896124
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Everything is marked as 'true' (meaning that whenever you claim that an object is produced, it is indeed actually produced), so it would ordinarily pass. However, the chi-squared statistic is huge (1089), suggesting that there's some mismatch between the frequencies of objects in your haul against the rest of Catagolue. Investigating now...
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 11:12 am

Thank you for your time, waiting for your confirmation before submitting large hauls again.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by calcyman » June 21st, 2018, 11:47 am

RedGolpe wrote:Thank you for your time, waiting for your confirmation before submitting large hauls again.
Your three super-large hauls have now passed verification successfully (to be entered into the census at 16:48, in two minutes time), as have many others I've rerun after changing the chi-squared calculation method to ignore the 10 most common objects. By 17:00 the entire verification backlog (extending back to May) should have been processed.
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 1:54 pm

Thank you. I wrongly assumed that the larger the haul the better, but I will limit their size from now on.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by calcyman » June 21st, 2018, 2:37 pm

RedGolpe wrote:Thank you. I wrongly assumed that the larger the haul the better, but I will limit their size from now on.
That's not necessary! Larger hauls are better, because they put less strain on Catagolue. Thank you for alerting me to the fact that Catagolue was incorrectly rejecting valid hauls (which has since been amended).
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 21st, 2018, 2:45 pm

Large it is then. Thank you for the troubleshooting.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by 77topaz » June 21st, 2018, 9:49 pm

You're able to submit 20 million soups every five minutes or so? :o I'm guessing you're using multiple computers?

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 22nd, 2018, 8:34 am

I'm using 3 machines, though rarely they're all up together. The fastest one outputs 20M soups every little more than 11 minutes.

Edit after setup tweaks (also a note to self):

Machine 1 - always up - 21M every ~28m - ~12k soups/s
Machine 2 - mostly up during the day - 22M every ~14m30s - ~25k soups/s
Machine 3 - mostly up during the night - 23M every ~13m - ~29k soups/s

Peak speed (all machines up): ~66k soups/s

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by Majestas32 » June 22nd, 2018, 2:13 pm

wha? If only i could have that computing power or otherwise convice you to search my rules lol
Searching:
b2-a5k6n7cs12-i3ij4k5j8
b2-a3c7cs12-i

Currently looking for help searching these rules.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 22nd, 2018, 2:58 pm

I've got nothing against non-standard rules. Which ones are you interested in?

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by 77topaz » June 22nd, 2018, 5:30 pm

RedGolpe wrote:Machine 1 - always up - 21M every ~28m - ~12k soups/s
Machine 2 - mostly up during the day - 22M every ~14m30s - ~25k soups/s
Machine 3 - mostly up during the night - 23M every ~13m - ~29k soups/s

Peak speed (all machines up): ~66k soups/s
Those are some impressive speeds, the computer I use for searching can only manage about 2200 soups/sec for b3s23/C1. Also, if you're interested, some other rules I'd recommend would be b36is234j/C1, b3-ry4ckns2-in3-cjn4it5aiky6-a7e8/C1 and b3-jkn4as1e2-a3ijnry4n/C1 (I've linked their respective forum threads).

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by calcyman » June 22nd, 2018, 6:15 pm

Presumably RedGolpe's stats are with the parallelisation flag -p, whereas 2200 soups/sec is typical of a single core.
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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by RedGolpe » June 22nd, 2018, 6:23 pm

77topaz wrote:some other rules I'd recommend would be b36is234j/C1, b3-ry4ckns2-in3-cjn4it5aiky6-a7e8/C1 and b3-jkn4as1e2-a3ijnry4n/C1
They all look very interesting, I'll devote some CPU to them in the next few days.
calcyman wrote:Presumably RedGolpe's stats are with the parallelisation flag -p, whereas 2200 soups/sec is typical of a single core.
Indeed. That's 7 logical processors on the slower machine and 11 on the other two.

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Re: Catagolue questions

Post by Majestas32 » June 22nd, 2018, 6:36 pm

I'd recommend b2-a5k6n7cs12-i3ij4k5j8 personally
Searching:
b2-a5k6n7cs12-i3ij4k5j8
b2-a3c7cs12-i

Currently looking for help searching these rules.

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