15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

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BobShemyakin
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 2nd, 2017, 12:35 pm

chris_c wrote:I am attaching a Golly script that can hopefully display an incremental synthesis of any 15 bit still life in less than 15 gliders. Save display_synth.txt and min_paths.txt in the same directory....
I invented an automated algorithm glider syntheses on the database still lifes and converters. I got the first encouraging results and suggest them to you for analysis and search for errors.
First and foremost was able to significantly improve the synthesis database for still lifes with size up to 15 bits, inclusive:
6G: 13.103, 13 222:

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x = 82, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
25b2o18b2o28b2o$25bobo17bobo27bobo$26bobo17bobo27bobo$28bo19bo29bo$28b
obo17bobo27bob2o$2o27b2o18b2o28bobo$b2o8b2o41bo25bo$o9b2o42bobo$12bo
38b2ob2o$50bobo$9bo42bo$4b2o3b2o$3bobo2bobo$5bo17$11bo$9b2o$10b2o2$3bo
$bobo$2b2o2bobo14bo14bo19b2o$6b2o11b2obobo9b2obobo14b2obobo$7bo12bobob
o10bobobo15bobo$19bo2b2o10bo2b2o15bo2b2o$19b2o13b2o6b2o10b2o$41b2o$38b
o4bo$bo36b2o$2o35bobo$obo!
7G: 12.55, 12.78, 13.130, 13.194, 13.79, 14.12:

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x = 85, y = 222, rule = B3/S23
12bo$11bo$11b3o$6bo$4b2o$bo3b2o$2bo20b2o18b2o18b2o$3o20bo2b2o15bo2b2o
15bo2b2o$24b2o2bo15b2o2bo15b2o2bo$27bobo17bobo17bobo$28bo19bo19b2o$13b
2o$13bobo38b2o$13bo36bo2b2o$50b2o3bo$4b2o43bobo$5b2o$4bo23$obo$b2o6bo$
bo6bo$8b3o4$27b2o18b2o28b2o$27bo2b2o15bo2b2o25bo2b2o$12bo16b2o2bo15b2o
2bo25b2obo$7b2o2b2o19b2o18b2o29bo$6bobo2bobo43bo26bo$8bo46b2o26b2o$56b
2o2$55bo$54b2o$54bobo2$16bo$15b2o$15bobo24$2bo$obo$b2o$11bo$11bobo$11b
2o14b2o18b2o18b2o$6bobo16bo2b3o14bo2b3o14bo2b3o$7b2o16b2o4bo13b2o4bo
13b2o4bo$7bo22bobo17bobo17bobo$31bo19bo19b2o2$15b2o40b2o$2o13bobo35bo
2b2o$b2o12bo37b2o3bo$o51bobo26$2bo2bobo19b2o18b2o28b2o$obo2b2o20bobo
17bobo27bobo$b2o3bo22bo19bo29bo$29bobo17bobo27bobo$30bobo17bobo27bobo$
31bo19bo9bo20bo$13b2o45bo20bo$13bobo37b2o5b3o18b2o$5bo7bo40b2o$5b2o46b
o3b3o$4bobo50bo$58bo24$8bo$8bobo$8b2o$6bo$5b2o15bo19bo29bo$2bo2bobo13b
obo17bobo27bobo$obo17bobo17bobo27bobo$b2o17bo19bo29bo$21bo19bo29bo$22b
obo17bobo2bobo22bo$4b2o17b2o18b2o2b2o24bo$4bobo41bo25bobo$4bo70b2o$45b
2o$46b2o2b2o$45bo3b2o$51bo24$12bo$10b2o$11b2o4$obo$b2o$bo21bo19bo19bo$
22bobo17bobo17bobo$5b2o15bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo$6b2o15b2o18b2o18b2o$5bo4b
o14b3o17b3o17b3o$9b2o14bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo$9bobo15b2o18b2o17b2o2$51b2o
$51bobo$b3o47bo$3bo43b3o$2bo46bo$48bo!
8G: 12.41, 13.193, 13.43, 13.54:

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#D03303418
x = 88, y = 149, rule = B3/S23
13bo$3bobo6bo$4boo6b3o$4bo3$13boo$12boo14boo18boo28boo3boo$3o11bo13bo
3boo14bo3boo24bo3bobo$bbo26bobbo16bobbo26bobbo$bo28bobo17bobo27bobo$
31bo19bo5bo23bo$56bo$56b3o$16boo$15boo38boo3boo$17bo36bobo3bobo$56bo3b
o23$4bo$4bobo$4boo17boo18boo18boo$22bobo17bobo17bobo$21bo19bo19bo$boo
17bo19bo19bo$obo17bobo17bobo17bobo$bbobbobo13bobo17bobo17bobo$5boo15bo
19bo5boo13bo$6bo40boo14boo$8boo39bo$8bobo41boo$8bo30boo6boobboo$40boo
4bobo4bo$39bo8bo26$17bo$17bobo$17boo6$15bobo$6b3o6boo$6bo9bo11boo18boo
28boo$7bo20bo19bo29bo$29bo19bo29bo$6boo22bo19bo29bo$5bobo23bo19bo29bo$
3o4bo24bo19bo29bo$bbo30bobo17bobobbobo22bo$bo32boo18boobboo24bo$59bo
25bobo$86boo$56boo$57boobboo$56bo3boo$62bo22$3bo$4boo$3boo$7bo$6bo$6b
3o$$bbobo$bboo$3bo$19boo18boo28boo$19bo19bo29bo$20b3o17b3o27b3o$6boo
15bo19bo29bo$5boo15bo19bo6bobo20bo$7bo14boo18boo5boo20bo$50bo21b3o$oo
72bo$boo42bo$o44bobo$45boo$41boo$42boo$41bo!
8G: 14.165, 14.244, 14.298, 14.300, 14.368, 14.504, 14.564:

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x = 107, y = 269, rule = B3/S23
4b3o12$9bobo8bobo$10b2o8b2o16bo19bo29bo$10bo10bo15bobo17bobo27bobo$34b
obo2bo14bobo2bo24bobo2bo$34b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o3bobo17b2o3b3o$64b2o26bo$
65bo25b2o3$62b3o$62bo$5bo57bo$3bobo$4b2o2$b2o$obo$2bo4b3o$9bo$8bo22$
17bobo$17b2o$18bo2$11b3o$11bo$2bobo7bo$3b2o4bo$3bo5b2o27b2o18b2o18b2o$
8bobo25b3obobo13b3obobo2bobo8b3obo$35bo5b2o12bo5b2o2b2o8bo5bo$35b2o18b
2o9bo8b2o5bobo$83b2o$63b2o$3o61b2o2b2o$2bo60bo3b2o$bo67bo24$18bobo12bo
19bo19bo$18b2o12bobo17bobo17bobo$12b2o5bo11bobobo15bobobo15bobobo$8b2o
2bobo17bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo$9b2obo22bobo17bobo17bobo$8bo27bobo17bobo17b
obo$37bo19bo19b2o2$17b2o44b2o$17bobo39bo2b2o$17bo41b2o3bo$58bobo2$10b
3o$12bo$3o8bo$2bo$bo23$2bo$3bo$b3o3$26bo19bo29bo$25bobo17bobo27bobo$4b
obo19bobo17bobo27bobo$5b2o20bobo17bobo27bobo$bo3bo23bo19bo29bo$b2o26bo
bo17bobo6bo20bobo$obo27b2o18b2o6bobo19bobo$54b2o2b2o21b2o$9bo44bobo$9b
2o43bo$8bobo39b2o$51b2o$bo48bo$b2o$obo21$15bobo$15b2o23bo19bo19bo$16bo
22bobo17bobo17bobo$39b2o18b2o18b2o$37b2o18b2o18b2o$36bobo17bobo17bobo$
36bo19bo19bo$12bo24bo19bo19bo$13bo22b2o18b2o20bo$11b3o63b2o$15b2o46bob
o$15bobo45b2o$15bo48bo2$49b3o12b2o$51bo12bobo$50bo9bo3bo$60b2o$b2o56bo
bo$obo$2bo25$36bo8bobo$34bobo8b2o$35b2o9bo$64bo19bo19bo$62b3o17b3o17b
3o$6bo13b3o17b3o18bo19bo19bo$5bo13b3o17b3o3b2o14bob2o16bob2o16bob4o$2o
3b3o37bobo12b2obobo14b2obobo2bo11b2obo2bo$b2o42bo18bo19bo3bobo$o87b2o$
6b2o$6bobo81b2o$6bo82bobo$91bo22$7bo$5bobo$6b2o$26b2o18b2o28b2o$4bo10b
obo8bobo17bobo27bobo$4b2o9b2o11bo19bo29bo$3bobo10bo10bo19bo29bo$27bobo
17bobo27bobo$28bobo17bobo27bobo$29bo19bo9bo20bo$58bo20bo$b2o48b2o5b3o
18b2o$obo49b2o$2bo8b3o37bo3b3o$11bo43bo$12bo43bo!
9G: 13.142, 13.58, 13.76, 13.78:

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#D0490FA34
x = 116, y = 146, rule = B3/S23
obo$boo$bo6$26bo$24boo$25boo$36boo23boo19boo$36bobo22bobo18bobo$38bo
24bo5bo14bo$37bo24bo4boo14bo$37boo23boo4boo13boo$14bobo21bo24bo21bo$
15boo21bobo22bobo16bobo$15bo23boo17bobo3boo16boo$11b3o45boo$13bo45bo$
12bo54boo$57boo7boo$58boo8bo$57bo$14boo$15boo$14bo23$48b3o$44bo3bo$45b
oobbo$bobo40boo$boo18bo19bo29bobo17bobobbobo12bo$bbo17bobo17bobo27bob
oo16boboobboo12bobo$20boo18boo28bo19bo6bo12bobbobo$3o65bobo17bobo17bob
o3boo$bbo34bo29bobo17bobo4boo11bobo$bo35boo3boo24bo19bo6boobboo7bo$36b
obobboo51bo3boo$43bo56bo24$7bo$6boo$bbo3bobo$bboo$bobo21boo18boo28boo$
26bo19bo29bo$25bo19bo29bo$13bo10bo19bo29bo$12boo10bobo17bobo27bobo$12b
obo10bobo17bobo27bobo$26bo19bo9bo20bo$55bo20bo$48boo5b3o18boo$3o46boo$
bbo45bo3b3o$bo9bo40bo$10boo41bo$4b3o3bobo$6bo$5bo26$22bo$21bo$21b3o$
40boo18boo18boo$26bo12bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$24boo12bobobbobo12bobobbobo
bbobo7bobobbo$25boo12bo4boo13bo4boobboo9bo4bo$obo66bo15bobo$boo6boo75b
oo$bo8boo54boo$9bo57boobboo$12boo52bo3boo$12bobo57bo$12bo8b3o$21bo$22b
o!
9G: 14.114, 14.118, 14.124, 14.129. 14.235,14.259, 14.264:

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x = 136, y = 292, rule = B3/S23
bo$2b2o$b2o2$7bo$8b2o$7b2o13bo$22bobo$22b2o9$26bo18bobo17bobo2bobo12bo
$19b3o3b2o14b2obob2o13b2obob2o2b2o9b2obobo$21bo3bobo14bobo17bobo6bo10b
obo2bobo$20bo21bobo17bobo17bobo3b2o$43bo19bo4b2o13bo$69b2o2b2o$68bo3b
2o$74bo3$9b2o$8bobo$10bo26$bobo$2b2o$2bo4$3bo8bo$4bo5b2o$2b3o6b2o11b2o
bo16b2obo26b2obo$24bob2o16bob2o26bob2o$28b2obo16b2obo2bobo21b2o$3b2o6b
3o14bob2o16bob2o2b2o22bobo$4b2o5bo43bo25bobo$3bo8bo69b2o$52b2o$53b2o2b
2o$52bo3b2o$13bo44bo$12b2o$12bobo31$47bo$45bobo$46b2o2$45bo$44b2o$44bo
bo$7bo28bobo23b2o18b2o28b2o$2b2ob2o15bo14b2o3bo19bo19bo29bo$bobo2b2o
13bobo13bo3bobo19bo19bo29bo$3bo17b2o18b2o17b3o17b3o27b3o$59bo19bo29bo$
37b2o19bobo17bobo28b2o$38b2o19bo19bo9bo20bo$37bo50bo20bo$81b2o5b3o18b
2o$82b2o$81bo3b3o$85bo$86bo26$17bo$15b2o9bo$16b2o8bobo$26b2o$56bo19bo
19bo$2bo20b3o29bobobo15bobobo2bobo10bobo$obo20bo31bo2b2o15bo2b2o2b2o
11bo2bo$b2o21bo9b3o16bobo17bobo7bo9bobo3bobo$34bo17bobo17bobo17bobo5b
2o$35bo17bo19bo6b2o11bo$81b2o2b2o$80bo3b2o$86bo3$15b3o$15bo$16bo23$bob
o101bobo$2b2o6bo95b2o$2bo6bo96bo$9b3o$104b2o$105b2o20b2o$104bo22bo$28b
2o18b2o28b2o28b2o18bo$28bo2b2o15bo2b2o25bo2b2o25bo2b2o16bob2o$13bo16b
2o2bo15b2o2bo25b2obo26b2obo16b2obo$8b2o2b2o19b2o18b2o29bo29bo19bo$7bob
o2bobo43bo26bo29bo19bo$9bo46b2o26b2o28b2o18b2o$57b2o2$56bo$55b2o$55bob
o2$17bo$16b2o$16bobo24$7bo18b2o28b2o18b2o18b2o28b2o$6bo18bo2bo26bo2bo
16bo2bo16bo2bo26bo2bo$6b3o15bo2bobo24bo2bobo14bo2bobo14bo2bobo24bo2bob
o$23bo4bo24bo4bo14bo4bo14bo4bo24bo4b2o$b3o19b2o28b2o17bo19bo29bo$3bo4b
2o38bobo20bo19bo12b2o15bo$2bo6b2o38b2o20b2o18b2o7bo2b2o16b2o$8bo40bo3b
2o45b2o3bo$11b3o38b2o45bobo$11bo36bo5bo$12bo35b2o$47bobo24$31b2o18b2o
28b2o$31bobo17bobo27bobo$16bo17bo19bo29bo$16bobo16bo19bo29bo$16b2o18bo
19bo29bo$37bo19bo29bo$38bo19bo29bo$15bo21b2o18b2o30bo$10b2o2bo37bobo6b
o24b3o$10bobob3o36b2o6bobo22bo$10bo42bo3b2o2b2o$58b2o$52bo4bo$52b2o$
51bobo3$9b2o$10b2o$b3o5bo$3bo$2bo!
9G: 14.294, 14.295, 14.308, 14.380, 14.480, 14.484, 14.65:

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#D0490FA34
x = 122, y = 346, rule = B3/S23
bbo$obo$boo28bo$29boo$30boo11$19bo$19bobo54bo19bo19bo$19boo54bobo17bob
o17bobo$74bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$18bo54bo3bobo13bo3bobo13bo3bobo$16bobo
54boo3bobo12boo3bobo12boo3bobo$17boo60bo19bo19boo$$105boo$101bobboo$
101boo3bo$100bobo9$14boobb3o$13bobobbo$15bo3bo16$61boo$60boo$62bo25$4b
o$bbobo$3boo22bobo17bobobbobo12bo$12boo12boboo16boboobboo12bobo$11b4o
11bo19bo6bo12bobbobo$10booboo9bobo17bobo17bobo3boo$11boo10bobo17bobo4b
oo11bobo$23boo18boo6boobboo6boo$50bo3boo$56bo$$10b3o$10bo$11bo$$b3o$3b
o$bbo23$5bo$6bo$4b3o$46boo18boo28boo$bo43bobbo16bobbo5bo20bobbo$bboo
38bobobbobo12bobobbobobboo18bobobbobo$boo39boo4bo13boo4bo4boo17boo4bob
o$25bobo71boo$17boo6boo$16boo8bo44b3o$18bo54bo$14boo56bo3boo$13bobo60b
obo$4b3o8bo60bo$6bo$5bo25$10bo$10bobo$10boo$boo$bboo$bo38bo19bo29bo$
40b3o17b3o27b3o$22b3o18bo19bo29bo$18bo3bo19bo19bo29bo$8bo10boobbo18bob
o17bobo27bobo$8boo8boo23bobo17bobo27bobo$7bobo3boo29bo19bo9bo20bo$14b
oo57bo20bo$13bo52boo5b3o18boo$67boo$66bo3b3o$70bo$71bo23$4bo11bobo$5bo
10boo$3b3o11bo$29boo18boo18boo$28bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$28boboo16boboo16b
oboo$27boobo16boobo16boobo$14bo16bo19bo19b3o$13boo17bo19bo20bo$13bobo
15boo18boo$9b3o48boo$11bo44boobbobo$10bo46boobo$bboo52bo7boo$bobo60bob
o$3bo40bo19bo$44boo$43bobo23$9bo$8bo$8b3o6bo$16bo$16b3o$$bbo$bo38bo14b
o10bo18bo$b3o14boo15boobbobo8boobbobo10bo12boobbobo$17boo16bobobbo9bob
obbo9b3o12bobobbobo$19bo18boo13boo28boobbo$3b3o81boo$3bo10boo50b3o$4bo
8boo53bo$15bo51bo10$48boo$47bobo$49bo24$63bo$61boo$62boo16$16bo3bo$14b
obobbo$15boobb3o14$18boo60bo19bo19bo$17bobo54boo3bobo12boo3bobo12boo3b
obo$19bo54bo3bobo13bo3bobo13bo3boboo$75bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$20boo54bobo
17bobo7boo8bobo$20bobo54bo19bo4bobboo10bo$20bo81boo3bo$101bobo10$31boo
$30boo$bboo28bo$bobo$3bo!
10G: 13.92, 14.154, 14.253:

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x = 123, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
4bobo$5b2o3bo$5bo4bobo$10b2o$obo$b2o$bo2$26bo19bo19bo$12bo12bobo17bobo
17bobo$12bobo9bobo17bobo17bobo$12b2o10bo19bo19bo$25bo19bo19bo$26bo19bo
19bo$3bo21b2o18b2o20bo$bobo36bobo6bo14b3o$2b2o2bo34b2o6bobo12bo$6bobo
32bo3b2o2b2o$6b2o38b2o$40bo4bo$40b2o$39bobo24$104bo3bo$102bobo3bobo$
103b2o3b2o$118b2o$13bo14b2o18b2o28b2o18b2o4b3o11bo$8bobo2bobo12bo19bo
10bo18bo19bo5bo14bo$9b2o2b2o14bo19bo10bo18bo19bo5bo10b3obo$9bo16b3o17b
3o9b3o15b3obo15b3obo15bo3bo$26bo19bo29bo3bo15bo3bo19bobo$80b2o18b2o19b
2o$59b3o$b2o12b3o43bo$obo12bo44bo$2bo13bo9$41b2o$40bobo$42bo21$47bo$
48bo$46b3o4$49bo$47b2o$44bo3b2o$45b2o$44b2o$5bo$4bo$4b3o57b2o14b2o19b
2o$23b2o18b2o4bo13bobo13bobo18bobo$22bobo17bobo2b2o13bo15bo20bo$21bo
19bo6b2o11bo15bo20bo$20bo19bo19bo15bo20bo$3o4bo12bobo17bobo17bobo13bob
o18bobo$2bo2b2o14bobo17bobo17bobo13bobo2b3o13bobo$bo4b2o14bo19bo19bo
15bo3bo16bobo$9b2o72bo16bo$9bobo69bo$9bo71b2o$80bobo!
11G: 14.104, 14.338, 14.517, 14.81:

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x = 207, y = 222, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o24bo$bo25bobo$27b2o3$63bobo$64b2o$64bo$71bo$70bo$70b3o2$42b2o2b
2o14b2o2b2o5b3o6b2o2bobo13b2o2bobo2bobo8b2o2bo$42bo2bobo14bo2bobo5bo8b
o2bob2o13bo2bob2o2b2o9bo2bobo$43bobo17bobo8bo8bobo17bobo6bo10bobo2bobo
$29bo3bo10b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o3b2o$27bobob2o76b2o$28b2o2b2o76b2o2b
2o$109bo3b2o$115bo8$4b2o$5b2o$4bo25$10bo$11bo$2bo6b3o$3bo$b3o$58bobo$
17bo40b2o4bobo$18bo10bo19bo9bo4b2o13bo6b2o$2o14b3o9bobo2b2o13bobo2b2o
10bo12bobo2b2o2bo$b2o26bo2bobo14bo2bobo7bo16bo2bob2o$o29b2o18b2o9b2o
17b2o$14b3o39bobo2bobo$4b2o10bo39b2o$5b2o8bo41bo$4bo$57b3o$57bo$58bo
23$30bo$29bo$29b3o$26bo$2bo24bo19b2o18b2o28b2o$obo22b3o20bo19bo29bo$b
2o44bo19bo4bobo22bo$31bo14bo19bo5b2o4bobo15bo$31bobo11bo19bo7bo4b2o15b
o4b2o$14bo16b2o13b3o17b3o10bo16b3o2bo$15b2o31bo19bo7bo21b2o$14b2o59b2o
$70bobo2bobo$70b2o$71bo2$71b3o$71bo$72bo2$14b2o$15b2o$14bo23$67bo$66bo
$66b3o47$25bo$24bo$24b3o$11bo$10bo$10b3o2$o80b2o38b2o$b2o78b2o38b2o$2o
20b2o$17b2o2b2o94b2o$16bobo4bo94b2o$18bo98bo2$3b3o$5bo$4bo3$84bo39bo$
84bo39bo$84bo39bo2$80b3o3b3o31b3o3b3o$91b2o2b2o34b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o24b2o
2b2o14b2o2b2o$84bo5bo2bo2bo20b2o5bo5bo2bo2bo13bo2bo2bo23bo2bo2bo13bo2b
o2bo$84bo4bobo2b2o22b2o4bo4bobo2b2o13bobo2b2o23bobo2b2o13bobo2b2o$84bo
5bo26bo6bo5bo19bo29bo17bobo$175bo23bo$176b2o$175b2o2b2o$178bobo$180bo!
12G: 14.252:

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x = 108, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
47bo$48bo$46b3o4$49bo$47b2o$44bo3b2o$45b2o$44b2o$5bo$4bo$4b3o57b2o20b
2o18b2o$23b2o18b2o4bo13bobo19bobo17bobo$22bobo17bobo2b2o13bo21bo19bo$
21bo19bo6b2o11bo21bo19bo$20bo19bo19bo21bo19bo$3o4bo12bobo17bobo17bobo
19bobo17bobo$2bo2b2o14bobo17bobo17bobo19bobo17bobo$bo4b2o14bo19bo19bo
21bo5b2o13bo$9b2o78b2o14b2o$9bobo79bo$9bo84b2o$81b2o6b2o2b2o$82b2o4bob
o4bo$81bo8bo!

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Bob Shemyakin

chris_c
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by chris_c » January 8th, 2017, 12:54 pm

BobShemyakin wrote: I invented an automated algorithm glider syntheses on the database still lifes and converters. I got the first encouraging results and suggest them to you for analysis and search for errors.
Thanks! I didn't find any errors in your syntheses. Looking at your collection I was able to see that I was missing these useful converters:

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x = 210, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
208bo$207bo$207b3o2$126bo$125bo65b2o$125b3o62bobo$104bo85bo$6bo98bo82b
3o$7b2o94b3o81bo$6b2o178bobo$187bo2$26bo$25bobo$24bobo$25bo$22b3o$21bo
$21b2o2$117b2o$115bo2bo$115b3o$178b2o$117b3o59b2o$116bo2bo58bo25b3o$
116b2o86bo$205bo2$99b3o$9b2o90bo$8bobo89bo$10bo2$30b2o$30bobo$30bo34$
163bobo$164b2o$164bo$196bobo$196b2o$197bo4$107bo90bo$105b3o90bobo$104b
o93b2o$105bo$102b3o$101bo$101b2o3$obo$b2o174bo$bo174bobo$27bo149b2o$
25b2o152b2o$26b2o151bobo$180bo6$85b3o$12b2o73bo22b2o$11bo2bo71bo23bobo
$10bobobo95bo$10bo2bo100b2o$9b2o103bobo$9bo104bo$11bo$10b2o3$29b3o140b
2o$29bo141bobo$30bo142bo!
Altogether I was able to improve 29 still lifes in the range 12-15 bits and 91 still lifes of population 16. I have pushed an update to my github repo.

Note that I have published a list of still lifes and glider costs in order of still life here. If you keep a similar list then it should be easy to find any differences.

mniemiec
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by mniemiec » January 8th, 2017, 5:01 pm

This is to Bob Shemyakin (I sent it on Oct. 24, but it doesn't look like you got it).
I am slowly working my way through still15.rar. While I will eventually look through all the syntheses, I am currently looking primarily at syntheses that will affect my secondary stamp collections (i.e. still-lifes buildable from 2-7 gliders, 1 glider/bit, or more than 1 glider/bit). You have several syntheses where you do not list glider counts, so I examined each of them, and discovered one that was incorrect.
Your file "15-466 Bob 04-24-2015.lif" is actually an older synthesis for 15.378.
(I am not worrying about files whose format is incorrect, e.g. RLE files with negative sizes, because the data from these can always be extracted with simple manual editing.)

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by Extrementhusiast » January 8th, 2017, 8:38 pm

chris_c wrote:
BobShemyakin wrote: I invented an automated algorithm glider syntheses on the database still lifes and converters. I got the first encouraging results and suggest them to you for analysis and search for errors.
Thanks! I didn't find any errors in your syntheses. Looking at your collection I was able to see that I was missing these useful converters:

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RLE
That last converter can be improved further, even making it one-sided, to boot:

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x = 23, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
16bobo$16b2o$17bo3bo$20bo$20b3o7$bo$obo$b2o$3b2o$3bobo$4bo10$17b3o$17b
o$18bo!
I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

BobShemyakin
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 9th, 2017, 1:33 pm

mniemiec wrote:This is to Bob Shemyakin (I sent it on Oct. 24, but it doesn't look like you got it).
I am slowly working my way through still15.rar. While I will eventually look through all the syntheses, I am currently looking primarily at syntheses that will affect my secondary stamp collections (i.e. still-lifes buildable from 2-7 gliders, 1 glider/bit, or more than 1 glider/bit). You have several syntheses where you do not list glider counts, so I examined each of them, and discovered one that was incorrect.
Your file "15-466 Bob 04-24-2015.lif" is actually an older synthesis for 15.378.
(I am not worrying about files whose format is incorrect, e.g. RLE files with negative sizes, because the data from these can always be extracted with simple manual editing.)
Thank you! I I'll fix in my database.

Bob Shemyakin

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 9th, 2017, 1:43 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:
chris_c wrote:
BobShemyakin wrote: I invented an automated algorithm glider syntheses on the database still lifes and converters. I got the first encouraging results and suggest them to you for analysis and search for errors.
Thanks! I didn't find any errors in your syntheses. Looking at your collection I was able to see that I was missing these useful converters:

Code: Select all

RLE
That last converter can be improved further, even making it one-sided, to boot:

Code: Select all

x = 23, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
16bobo$16b2o$17bo3bo$20bo$20b3o7$bo$obo$b2o$3b2o$3bobo$4bo10$17b3o$17b
o$18bo!
Thank you! I will make this converter in my automated algorithm.
In my algorithm I use more than 350 converters, their is not enough.
Now I really need some good converters.

Bob Shemyakin

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Posts: 214
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 9th, 2017, 2:02 pm

chris_c wrote:...

Note that I have published a list of still lifes and glider costs in order of still life here. If you keep a similar list then it should be easy to find any differences.
Thank you! Publish my list SL 4 up to 15 bits. The last column contains distinct from your list (minus in your favor):

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No	bit No in bit	G (chris)	G (Bob)		dG
1474	15	392	10		13		-3
1874	15	792	7		10		-3
305	13	82	8		10		-2
1192	15	110	11		13		-2
1244	15	162	11		13		-2
1355	15	273	7		9		-2
1389	15	307	11		13		-2
1672	15	590	11		13		-2
1737	15	655	11		13		-2
1861	15	779	12		14		-2
1864	15	782	10		12		-2
1983	15	901	11		13		-2
2068	15	986	11		13		-2
2422	15	1340	9		11		-2
664	14	201	11		12		-1
676	14	213	11		12		-1
1021	14	558	9		10		-1
1262	15	180	7		8		-1
1281	15	199	9		10		-1
1298	15	216	9		10		-1
1368	15	286	11		12		-1
1472	15	390	12		13		-1
1507	15	425	10		11		-1
1568	15	486	13		14		-1
1570	15	488	9		10		-1
1580	15	498	9		10		-1
1584	15	502	11		12		-1
1585	15	503	11		12		-1
1603	15	521	9		10		-1
1644	15	562	9		10		-1
1660	15	578	10		11		-1
1669	15	587	10		11		-1
1680	15	598	13		14		-1
1770	15	688	9		10		-1
1786	15	704	10		11		-1
1926	15	844	12		13		-1
1963	15	881	12		13		-1
2001	15	919	12		13		-1
2076	15	994	9		10		-1
46	10	15	7		6		1
53	10	22	7		6		1
85	11	29	7		6		1
143	12	41	9		8		1
157	12	55	8		7		1
171	12	69	7		6		1
180	12	78	8		7		1
198	12	96	8		7		1
262	13	39	7		6		1
266	13	43	9		8		1
277	13	54	9		8		1
281	13	58	10		9		1
291	13	68	7		6		1
299	13	76	10		9		1
301	13	78	10		9		1
302	13	79	8		7		1
315	13	92	11		10		1
332	13	109	10		9		1
353	13	130	8		7		1
365	13	142	10		9		1
407	13	184	11		10		1
417	13	194	8		7		1
445	13	222	7		6		1
470	14	7	10		9		1
481	14	18	8		7		1
501	14	38	8		7		1
528	14	65	10		9		1
544	14	81	12		11		1
549	14	86	11		10		1
567	14	104	12		11		1
569	14	106	13		12		1
573	14	110	11		10		1
577	14	114	10		9		1
581	14	118	10		9		1
587	14	124	10		9		1
592	14	129	10		9		1
617	14	154	11		10		1
628	14	165	9		8		1
677	14	214	10		9		1
689	14	226	10		9		1
694	14	231	12		11		1
707	14	244	9		8		1
722	14	259	10		9		1
724	14	261	12		11		1
730	14	267	9		8		1
757	14	294	10		9		1
758	14	295	10		9		1
761	14	298	9		8		1
763	14	300	9		8		1
771	14	308	10		9		1
776	14	313	10		9		1
796	14	333	13		12		1
797	14	334	12		11		1
801	14	338	12		11		1
817	14	354	13		12		1
821	14	358	13		12		1
831	14	368	9		8		1
843	14	380	10		9		1
930	14	467	12		11		1
947	14	484	10		9		1
980	14	517	12		11		1
990	14	527	13		12		1
1009	14	546	10		9		1
1017	14	554	10		9		1
1018	14	555	10		9		1
1027	14	564	9		8		1
1067	14	604	8		7		1
1111	15	29	12		11		1
1116	15	34	11		10		1
1119	15	37	10		9		1
1136	15	54	11		10		1
1153	15	71	13		12		1
1191	15	109	11		10		1
1272	15	190	14		13		1
1278	15	196	10		9		1
1280	15	198	12		11		1
1282	15	200	11		10		1
1283	15	201	8		7		1
1307	15	225	13		12		1
1337	15	255	12		11		1
1344	15	262	12		11		1
1361	15	279	9		8		1
1364	15	282	11		10		1
1369	15	287	11		10		1
1370	15	288	12		11		1
1375	15	293	10		9		1
1380	15	298	13		12		1
1384	15	302	11		10		1
1390	15	308	11		10		1
1391	15	309	14		13		1
1395	15	313	12		11		1
1397	15	315	12		11		1
1407	15	325	13		12		1
1417	15	335	10		9		1
1425	15	343	13		12		1
1431	15	349	14		13		1
1433	15	351	12		11		1
1447	15	365	7		6		1
1449	15	367	8		7		1
1531	15	449	11		10		1
1563	15	481	10		9		1
1564	15	482	7		6		1
1586	15	504	12		11		1
1607	15	525	8		7		1
1616	15	534	8		7		1
1623	15	541	14		13		1
1625	15	543	8		7		1
1630	15	548	8		7		1
1631	15	549	10		9		1
1636	15	554	7		6		1
1689	15	607	11		10		1
1722	15	640	9		8		1
1728	15	646	8		7		1
1736	15	654	13		12		1
1758	15	676	11		10		1
1761	15	679	11		10		1
1793	15	711	14		13		1
1815	15	733	11		10		1
1822	15	740	10		9		1
1834	15	752	13		12		1
1851	15	769	9		8		1
1853	15	771	12		11		1
1862	15	780	8		7		1
1866	15	784	13		12		1
1871	15	789	12		11		1
1872	15	790	12		11		1
1880	15	798	13		12		1
1886	15	804	12		11		1
1888	15	806	12		11		1
1902	15	820	14		13		1
1907	15	825	14		13		1
1910	15	828	10		9		1
1911	15	829	12		11		1
1912	15	830	12		11		1
1966	15	884	11		10		1
2006	15	924	13		12		1
2036	15	954	9		8		1
2048	15	966	8		7		1
2058	15	976	8		7		1
2067	15	985	14		13		1
2069	15	987	10		9		1
2074	15	992	14		13		1
2075	15	993	9		8		1
2079	15	997	11		10		1
2082	15	1000	8		7		1
2107	15	1025	13		12		1
2168	15	1086	9		8		1
2189	15	1107	12		11		1
2191	15	1109	11		10		1
2196	15	1114	9		8		1
2212	15	1130	9		8		1
2216	15	1134	8		7		1
2218	15	1136	11		10		1
2219	15	1137	10		9		1
2227	15	1145	10		9		1
2238	15	1156	10		9		1
2242	15	1160	9		8		1
2246	15	1164	12		11		1
2250	15	1168	13		12		1
2251	15	1169	10		9		1
2252	15	1170	12		11		1
2253	15	1171	10		9		1
2257	15	1175	11		10		1
2265	15	1183	9		8		1
2266	15	1184	10		9		1
2267	15	1185	12		11		1
2272	15	1190	13		12		1
2276	15	1194	9		8		1
2277	15	1195	14		13		1
2294	15	1212	9		8		1
2296	15	1214	10		9		1
2317	15	1235	9		8		1
2318	15	1236	9		8		1
2327	15	1245	7		6		1
2331	15	1249	8		7		1
2341	15	1259	9		8		1
2342	15	1260	12		11		1
2344	15	1262	10		9		1
2347	15	1265	9		8		1
2348	15	1266	10		9		1
2355	15	1273	9		8		1
2357	15	1275	14		13		1
2384	15	1302	10		9		1
2386	15	1304	11		10		1
2387	15	1305	9		8		1
2393	15	1311	11		10		1
2395	15	1313	13		12		1
2397	15	1315	13		12		1
2398	15	1316	14		13		1
2429	15	1347	12		11		1
2431	15	1349	9		8		1
2432	15	1350	13		12		1
2435	15	1353	12		11		1
136	12	34	10		8		2
153	12	51	11		9		2
200	12	98	11		9		2
236	13	13	9		7		2
416	13	193	10		8		2
428	13	205	9		7		2
559	14	96	13		11		2
716	14	253	12		10		2
727	14	264	11		9		2
732	14	269	10		8		2
943	14	480	11		9		2
1050	14	587	10		8		2
1080	14	617	10		8		2
1140	15	58	14		12		2
1152	15	70	14		12		2
1170	15	88	9		7		2
1225	15	143	14		12		2
1240	15	158	9		7		2
1242	15	160	11		9		2
1266	15	184	13		11		2
1301	15	219	12		10		2
1313	15	231	12		10		2
1314	15	232	11		9		2
1321	15	239	11		9		2
1323	15	241	10		8		2
1372	15	290	12		10		2
1429	15	347	12		10		2
1434	15	352	14		12		2
1475	15	393	14		12		2
1545	15	463	10		8		2
1547	15	465	11		9		2
1618	15	536	9		7		2
1619	15	537	9		7		2
1641	15	559	9		7		2
1707	15	625	9		7		2
1727	15	645	11		9		2
1749	15	667	11		9		2
1772	15	690	11		9		2
1852	15	770	9		7		2
1878	15	796	12		10		2
1883	15	801	12		10		2
1887	15	805	12		10		2
1920	15	838	14		12		2
1928	15	846	13		11		2
1961	15	879	12		10		2
2021	15	939	12		10		2
2035	15	953	9		7		2
2064	15	982	12		10		2
2078	15	996	11		9		2
2088	15	1006	11		9		2
2141	15	1059	13		11		2
2159	15	1077	8		6		2
2175	15	1093	10		8		2
2179	15	1097	10		8		2
2184	15	1102	10		8		2
2204	15	1122	11		9		2
2214	15	1132	14		12		2
2215	15	1133	13		11		2
2268	15	1186	11		9		2
2271	15	1189	14		12		2
2274	15	1192	12		10		2
2302	15	1220	10		8		2
2389	15	1307	13		11		2
2403	15	1321	8		6		2
2419	15	1337	11		9		2
2421	15	1339	10		8		2
2426	15	1344	12		10		2
568	14	105	13		10		3
646	14	183	13		10		3
719	14	256	12		9		3
784	14	321	13		10		3
809	14	346	13		10		3
1085	15	3	12		9		3
1322	15	240	8		5		3
1362	15	280	12		9		3
1408	15	326	14		11		3
1601	15	519	13		10		3
1776	15	694	12		9		3
1850	15	768	13		10		3
1877	15	795	11		8		3
2027	15	945	9		6		3
2173	15	1091	12		9		3
2195	15	1113	10		7		3
2217	15	1135	14		11		3
2282	15	1200	12		9		3
2297	15	1215	14		11		3
2377	15	1295	11		8		3
2379	15	1297	11		8		3
2390	15	1308	14		11		3
2428	15	1346	11		8		3
458	13	235	11		7		4
1379	15	297	14		10		4
1714	15	632	11		7		4
1832	15	750	12		8		4
1962	15	880	11		7		4
1977	15	895	14		10		4
2017	15	935	12		8		4
2164	15	1082	13		9		4
2232	15	1150	14		10		4
401	13	178	12		7		5
456	13	233	12		7		5
1349	15	267	13		8		5
1602	15	520	14		9		5
1750	15	668	14		9		5
1837	15	755	12		7		5
1455	15	373	13		7		6
1	4	1	2		2		 
2	4	2	3		3		 
3	5	1	2		2		 
4	6	1	4		4		 
5	6	2	3		3		 
6	6	3	2		2		 
7	6	4	4		4		 
8	6	5	3		3		 
9	7	1	4		4		 
10	7	2	2		2		 
11	7	3	2		2		 
12	7	4	3		3		 
13	8	1	4		4		 
14	8	2	2		2		 
15	8	3	4		4		 
16	8	4	3		3		 
17	8	5	4		4		 
18	8	6	4		4		 
19	8	7	3		3		 
20	8	8	4		4		 
21	8	9	4		4		 
22	9	1	3		3		 
23	9	2	5		5		 
24	9	3	4		4		 
25	9	4	4		4		 
26	9	5	4		4		 
27	9	6	4		4		 
28	9	7	4		4		 
29	9	8	5		5		 
30	9	9	4		4		 
31	9	10	3		3		 
32	10	1	5		5		 
33	10	2	4		4		 
34	10	3	6		6		 
35	10	4	4		4		 
36	10	5	4		4		 
37	10	6	5		5		 
38	10	7	4		4		 
39	10	8	5		5		 
40	10	9	4		4		 
41	10	10	5		5		 
42	10	11	4		4		 
43	10	12	6		6		 
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2106	15	1024	9		9		 
2108	15	1026	11		11		 
2109	15	1027	8		8		 
2110	15	1028	6		6		 
2111	15	1029	6		6		 
2112	15	1030	7		7		 
2113	15	1031	8		8		 
2114	15	1032	11		11		 
2115	15	1033	12		12		 
2116	15	1034	12		12		 
2117	15	1035	13		13		 
2118	15	1036	10		10		 
2119	15	1037	6		6		 
2120	15	1038	6		6		 
2121	15	1039	5		5		 
2122	15	1040	8		8		 
2123	15	1041	7		7		 
2124	15	1042	7		7		 
2125	15	1043	7		7		 
2126	15	1044	10		10		 
2127	15	1045	11		11		 
2128	15	1046	6		6		 
2129	15	1047	6		6		 
2130	15	1048	12		12		 
2131	15	1049	7		7		 
2132	15	1050	7		7		 
2133	15	1051	9		9		 
2134	15	1052	10		10		 
2135	15	1053	7		7		 
2136	15	1054	6		6		 
2137	15	1055	10		10		 
2138	15	1056	8		8		 
2139	15	1057	10		10		 
2140	15	1058	10		10		 
2142	15	1060	13		13		 
2143	15	1061	8		8		 
2144	15	1062	13		13		 
2145	15	1063	13		13		 
2146	15	1064	10		10		 
2147	15	1065	9		9		 
2148	15	1066	8		8		 
2149	15	1067	10		10		 
2150	15	1068	9		9		 
2151	15	1069	7		7		 
2152	15	1070	6		6		 
2153	15	1071	8		8		 
2154	15	1072	7		7		 
2155	15	1073	9		9		 
2156	15	1074	11		11		 
2157	15	1075	9		9		 
2158	15	1076	6		6		 
2160	15	1078	9		9		 
2161	15	1079	10		10		 
2162	15	1080	8		8		 
2163	15	1081	9		9		 
2165	15	1083	7		7		 
2166	15	1084	8		8		 
2167	15	1085	8		8		 
2169	15	1087	9		9		 
2170	15	1088	10		10		 
2171	15	1089	11		11		 
2172	15	1090	7		7		 
2174	15	1092	11		11		 
2176	15	1094	9		9		 
2177	15	1095	7		7		 
2178	15	1096	7		7		 
2180	15	1098	6		6		 
2181	15	1099	10		10		 
2182	15	1100	10		10		 
2183	15	1101	9		9		 
2185	15	1103	11		11		 
2186	15	1104	9		9		 
2187	15	1105	9		9		 
2188	15	1106	13		13		 
2190	15	1108	8		8		 
2192	15	1110	12		12		 
2193	15	1111	12		12		 
2194	15	1112	13		13		 
2197	15	1115	9		9		 
2198	15	1116	7		7		 
2199	15	1117	7		7		 
2200	15	1118	8		8		 
2201	15	1119	10		10		 
2202	15	1120	8		8		 
2203	15	1121	7		7		 
2205	15	1123	9		9		 
2206	15	1124	8		8		 
2207	15	1125	8		8		 
2208	15	1126	9		9		 
2209	15	1127	8		8		 
2210	15	1128	10		10		 
2211	15	1129	7		7		 
2213	15	1131	10		10		 
2220	15	1138	10		10		 
2221	15	1139	11		11		 
2222	15	1140	11		11		 
2223	15	1141	9		9		 
2224	15	1142	9		9		 
2225	15	1143	11		11		 
2226	15	1144	8		8		 
2228	15	1146	11		11		 
2229	15	1147	9		9		 
2230	15	1148	10		10		 
2231	15	1149	8		8		 
2233	15	1151	13		13		 
2234	15	1152	10		10		 
2235	15	1153	10		10		 
2236	15	1154	9		9		 
2237	15	1155	9		9		 
2239	15	1157	10		10		 
2240	15	1158	11		11		 
2241	15	1159	13		13		 
2243	15	1161	12		12		 
2244	15	1162	8		8		 
2245	15	1163	11		11		 
2247	15	1165	9		9		 
2248	15	1166	11		11		 
2249	15	1167	11		11		 
2254	15	1172	11		11		 
2255	15	1173	13		13		 
2256	15	1174	8		8		 
2258	15	1176	10		10		 
2259	15	1177	10		10		 
2260	15	1178	8		8		 
2261	15	1179	12		12		 
2262	15	1180	12		12		 
2263	15	1181	9		9		 
2264	15	1182	11		11		 
2269	15	1187	10		10		 
2270	15	1188	12		12		 
2273	15	1191	12		12		 
2275	15	1193	9		9		 
2278	15	1196	11		11		 
2279	15	1197	11		11		 
2280	15	1198	8		8		 
2281	15	1199	11		11		 
2283	15	1201	11		11		 
2284	15	1202	8		8		 
2285	15	1203	6		6		 
2286	15	1204	8		8		 
2287	15	1205	13		13		 
2288	15	1206	7		7		 
2289	15	1207	14		14		 
2290	15	1208	14		14		 
2291	15	1209	8		8		 
2292	15	1210	9		9		 
2293	15	1211	8		8		 
2295	15	1213	10		10		 
2298	15	1216	10		10		 
2299	15	1217	9		9		 
2300	15	1218	10		10		 
2301	15	1219	6		6		 
2303	15	1221	8		8		 
2304	15	1222	7		7		 
2305	15	1223	9		9		 
2306	15	1224	5		5		 
2307	15	1225	8		8		 
2308	15	1226	8		8		 
2309	15	1227	12		12		 
2310	15	1228	10		10		 
2311	15	1229	8		8		 
2312	15	1230	7		7		 
2313	15	1231	10		10		 
2314	15	1232	8		8		 
2315	15	1233	8		8		 
2316	15	1234	9		9		 
2319	15	1237	6		6		 
2320	15	1238	6		6		 
2321	15	1239	7		7		 
2322	15	1240	7		7		 
2323	15	1241	6		6		 
2324	15	1242	9		9		 
2325	15	1243	7		7		 
2326	15	1244	8		8		 
2328	15	1246	6		6		 
2329	15	1247	8		8		 
2330	15	1248	12		12		 
2332	15	1250	7		7		 
2333	15	1251	11		11		 
2334	15	1252	8		8		 
2335	15	1253	12		12		 
2336	15	1254	10		10		 
2337	15	1255	6		6		 
2338	15	1256	8		8		 
2339	15	1257	6		6		 
2340	15	1258	9		9		 
2343	15	1261	9		9		 
2345	15	1263	8		8		 
2346	15	1264	10		10		 
2349	15	1267	10		10		 
2350	15	1268	9		9		 
2351	15	1269	9		9		 
2352	15	1270	9		9		 
2353	15	1271	10		10		 
2354	15	1272	8		8		 
2356	15	1274	9		9		 
2358	15	1276	7		7		 
2359	15	1277	8		8		 
2360	15	1278	11		11		 
2361	15	1279	9		9		 
2362	15	1280	9		9		 
2363	15	1281	8		8		 
2364	15	1282	8		8		 
2365	15	1283	9		9		 
2366	15	1284	8		8		 
2367	15	1285	7		7		 
2368	15	1286	6		6		 
2369	15	1287	11		11		 
2370	15	1288	12		12		 
2371	15	1289	8		8		 
2372	15	1290	8		8		 
2373	15	1291	9		9		 
2374	15	1292	9		9		 
2375	15	1293	12		12		 
2376	15	1294	10		10		 
2378	15	1296	8		8		 
2380	15	1298	8		8		 
2381	15	1299	10		10		 
2382	15	1300	9		9		 
2383	15	1301	8		8		 
2385	15	1303	10		10		 
2388	15	1306	8		8		 
2391	15	1309	11		11		 
2392	15	1310	11		11		 
2394	15	1312	9		9		 
2396	15	1314	11		11		 
2399	15	1317	11		11		 
2400	15	1318	12		12		 
2401	15	1319	13		13		 
2402	15	1320	10		10		 
2404	15	1322	6		6		 
2405	15	1323	8		8		 
2406	15	1324	9		9		 
2407	15	1325	12		12		 
2408	15	1326	13		13		 
2409	15	1327	11		11		 
2410	15	1328	8		8		 
2411	15	1329	9		9		 
2412	15	1330	9		9		 
2413	15	1331	9		9		 
2414	15	1332	7		7		 
2415	15	1333	7		7		 
2416	15	1334	9		9		 
2417	15	1335	7		7		 
2418	15	1336	8		8		 
2420	15	1338	10		10		 
2423	15	1341	10		10		 
2424	15	1342	10		10		 
2425	15	1343	9		9		 
2427	15	1345	10		10		 
2430	15	1348	12		12		 
2433	15	1351	9		9		 
2434	15	1352	11		11		 
For SL16 bit will be ready by the end of the week.

Bob Shemyakin

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by chris_c » January 9th, 2017, 5:44 pm

BobShemyakin wrote: Thank you! Publish my list SL 4 up to 15 bits. The last column contains distinct from your list (minus in your favor):

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No	bit No in bit	G (chris)	G (Bob)		dG
1474	15	392	10		13		-3
....
46	10	15	7		6		1
53	10	22	7		6		1
....
Are you sure you are using an up to date version of my lists? I had a 10 glider synthesis of 15.392 in 10 gliders but it was already improved to 7 gliders by 20th December. Also all 10 bit still lifes have been at 6 gliders or less in my lists for even longer than that.
BobShemyakin wrote: For SL16 bit will be ready by the end of the week.
Great. I'd love to see the actual syntheses as well if possible.

EDIT: I analysed your list and it seems that 38 of your costs are lower than mine:

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12.96      xs12_252sga6             8      7      1     
13.39      xs13_0gbb8oz121          7      6      1     
13.68      xs13_0ggka53z32          7      6      1     
13.178     xs13_4ai30o8zx121        11     7      4     
13.184     xs13_354215ac            11     10     1     
13.205     xs13_178n96              9      7      2     
14.7       xs14_255q8a52            10     9      1     
14.214     xs14_4a52sga6            10     9      1     
14.269     xs14_25a842ako           10     8      2     
14.334     xs14_4aq453z32           12     11     1     
14.467     xs14_ca9jzw1226          12     11     1     
14.546     xs14_ca9jzw1252          10     9      1     
14.587     xs14_08u1acz321          10     8      2     
14.617     xs14_3123qp3             10     8      2     
15.109     xs15_6ags25ac            11     10     1     
15.158     xs15_178c2dio            8      7      1     
15.160     xs15_178c2dic            10     9      1     
15.198     xs15_6248c2dic           12     11     1     
15.239     xs15_39m86248c           10     9      1     
15.280     xs15_0g8jdz3kp           11     9      2     
15.393     xs15_4s0s2pmzw1          14     12     2     
15.463     xs15_0mlla4z32           10     8      2     
15.519     xs15_8e13kczw65          11     10     1     
15.536     xs15_03ihe8z2521         9      7      2     
15.548     xs15_0gbhe8z3421         8      7      1     
15.559     xs15_69b88czw252         9      7      2     
15.879     xs15_o4871acz23          11     10     1     
15.939     xs15_4ai30o4czx121       12     10     2     
15.954     xs15_25akggozx66         9      8      1     
15.997     xs15_0g8hf0ccz23         11     10     1     
15.1077    xs15_ci96zw115a4         8      6      2     
15.1186    xs15_xg8o64213z321       11     9      2     
15.1194    xs15_w8o69a4z2521        9      8      1     
15.1220    xs15_wkc32acz65          10     8      2     
15.1262    xs15_x8ka52zad11         10     9      1     
15.1304    xs15_358gzw116a8o        11     10     1     
15.1305    xs15_358gzw116ak8        9      8      1     
15.1337    xs15_3lozx31248c         11     9      2     
I already spotted that you have a synthesis of 13.68 that involves an HWSS. Obviously I would be curious to know how you improved the rest :)
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by Goldtiger997 » January 9th, 2017, 10:01 pm

Slightly off topic alert
mniemiec wrote:On a related note, all pseudo-still-lifes up to 19 bits have been solved. All 20-bit ones can be synthesized except for the following 57 (the last 3 of which can be synthesized based on some of the others plus a snake-to-carrier converter);

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x = 144, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
ooboobo8booboobo8booboobo8booboboo8booboobo8booboobo8booboobboo6booboo
boo8booboo10booboo$obooboo8bobooboo8booboboo8bobooboo8bobooboo8boboob
oo9bobobbobo7bobo3bo7bobobo10bobobobo$90bo3bobo8bo3bobo8bo4b3o7bo6bo$o
booboo8bobooboo8booboboo9booboobo8booboobo8booboobo7booboobbo7booboobo
bo7bo5bo8bo3b3o$ooboboo8booboobo8bobooboo9booboboo8bobooboo8booboboo
13boo14boo8bobobo10bobo$121booboo10booboo10$oo13booboo10booboo11booboo
9booboobo8boo3boo9boobo11booboo10booboo10booboo$obbooboo8bobobboo7bob
oobo9bobobobo9boboboo8bo5bo8bobboo12bobobo10bobobo8bobobo$bobo3bo7bo3b
obo14bo8bo6bo8bo15bobo10boo14bo5bo8bo4bo8bo4bo$oobbobo8booboobbo14bo8b
o6bo8bo13booboo15boo7bo4boo8bo5boo8bo4bo$bboboboo12bobo7boobobobo9bobo
bobo9boboboo7bo3bo9boo5bo7bobobbo9bobo4bo9bo4bo$bboo16boo8bobooboo11b
ooboo9booboobo8bobo10bobob3o9boo3bo9boobbo12bobobo$76booboo12boo15boo
13boo10booboo9$obooboo8boo13boo13boo13boobbo10boobboo9boobboo9boobo11b
oobobboo7booboo$oobobo10bo14bobbo10bo4boo8bo3b3o8bo3bo10bobobbo9boboo
11boboo3bo7boobo$7bo7bo5boo7bo3b3o10bobbobo8bo5bo8bo3bo11bobo16boo11b
3o11bobboo$6boo7b4obobo7boo5bo8boo4bo7boo4bo8boo4bo9bobb4o7boboo3bo8b
oobo13boobbo$bboobo12bobo10bo4bo8bo5bo8bo4bo9bo6bo8boo4bo7boobobbo10bo
16bobo$bobboo11bo3bo9bobobo10bobobo11bobo12bob3o14bo11bobo11bobo13bobb
oo$boo14booboo10booboo10booboo9booboo10boobo16boo10boo13boo13boo9$bboo
boo9boboo11boobbo10booboo10booboo9boboobo9boboobo9bobooboo8bobooboo8b
oobboo$3bobo10boobo10bobobb3o9bobobo8bobobobo8boobob3o7boobob3o7boobob
o9boobobobo7bobbobo$bbo3bo15boo6bo7bo7bo5bo7bo6bo15bo14bo12bo16bo8boo$
bo5bo7boboo4bo7bo5bo7bo7bo7bo6bo13boo10booboo13bo13boo10bobo$o7bo6boo
bbobbo9bo3bo8bobo3bobo8bo3bobo9boobbo11bo12boo4bo8boobbo10bobb3o$b3ob
3o10bobbo11bobo10boobbobo10bobboo10bobobo9bobo12bobb3o9bobobo10boo4bo$
3bobo13boo11booboo14bo10boo17bo10boo15boo14bo16boo9$ooboo10booboo10boo
boo12booboo9booboo10booboo10booboo9boo13boo13boo$bobo12boboo10bo3bo13b
obobo9bobo12bobo12bobobbo8bo5bo8bo4boo7bobo3boo$o3bo10bo6boo7bobo3boo
8bo5bo7bo3bo9bo4bo10bo4boo7bo4b3o8boboobbo9bo3bo$ooboobbo7booboo3bo6b
ooboo3bo7bo7bo5bo5bo8boo4bo8bo14boobbo12boboo11boo3bo$4bobobo10bobbo
11bobbo7bo5b3o6bobo4bo8bo5bo8b3o16bo30boo$4bobbo11bobo12bobo9b3obbo9bo
bobboo8bobobboo10b3o9boobboo11boboo11boobbo$3boo15bo14bo12bo14bo13bobo
16bo8bobbo13boobbo10bobobo$63boo13bo16boo10boo16boo13bo8$ooboo11booboo
9bo14boo15boobo11boobo10boo$o3bo12bobo10b3o4boo6bobo12bobbob3o7bobbob
3o9bo4bo$bobo3bo8bo3b3o10bo4bo8bo3boo7boo6bo6boo6bo6bo4b3o$oob5o7bo7bo
8bobb3o9boobbo15boo10booboo6boobbo$15boo5bo9boobo17bo9boobbo11bo15bo$
5bo15bo11bo13boo3boo9bobobo9bobo10boobboo$4bobo11bobo12bobo11bobobo14b
o10boo11bobbo$5bo12boo14boo14boo40boo!
I forgot to post this when I found it, then when I found it in my files a month later I forgot again, so I am posting this now before I forget again.

Here is one of those 57 20-bit pseudo still-lifes in 15 gliders:

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x = 159, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
80bo$81bo$79b3o3$80b3o$82bo$81bo7$135bo$135bobo$131bo3b2o$132b2o$131b
2o$128bo$126bobo$127b2o$104b2o28b2o16b2o$103bo2bo26bo2bo16bo$48bo54bob
o27bobo17bob2o$o3bo42bo38b3o15bo29bo19bobo$b2obobo18b2o20b3o5b2o20b2o
7bo20b2o28b2o18b2o$2o2b2o20bo17b2o10bo21bo8bo20bo29bo19bo$21b2obo18b2o
6b2obo16b2obobo24b2obobo14b2o8b2obobo14b2obobo$21b2ob2o19bo5b2ob2o15bo
b2ob2o23bob2ob2o12bobo8bob2ob2o13bob2ob2o$122bo$39b3o$4b3o34bo$4bo35bo
$5bo$3o$2bo47b2o$bo48bobo$50bo!
I thought this thread was probably the best place to post this

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 14th, 2017, 8:01 am

Publish my list for still lifes 16 bits:

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16 1 12
16 2 11
16 3 12
16 4 14
16 5 10
16 6 13
16 7 4
16 8 7
16 9 9
16 10 5
16 11 11
16 12 7
16 13 9
16 14 8
16 15 17
16 16 10
16 17 11
16 18 999
16 19 18
16 20 10
16 21 8
16 22 12
16 23 13
16 24 15
16 25 8
16 26 14
16 27 14
16 28 11
16 29 11
16 30 17
16 31 15
16 32 16
16 33 9
16 34 13
16 35 10
16 36 12
16 37 16
16 38 10
16 39 10
16 40 11
16 41 7
16 42 10
16 43 16
16 44 11
16 45 999
16 46 15
16 47 11
16 48 15
16 49 12
16 50 13
16 51 999
16 52 13
16 53 13
16 54 18
16 55 13
16 56 14
16 57 999
16 58 15
16 59 8
16 60 7
16 61 7
16 62 9
16 63 11
16 64 17
16 65 7
16 66 8
16 67 999
16 68 15
16 69 13
16 70 10
16 71 13
16 72 9
16 73 18
16 74 13
16 75 10
16 76 13
16 77 12
16 78 15
16 79 15
16 80 12
16 81 9
16 82 10
16 83 14
16 84 11
16 85 7
16 86 14
16 87 14
16 88 13
16 89 13
16 90 15
16 91 12
16 92 999
16 93 12
16 94 14
16 95 13
16 96 10
16 97 14
16 98 11
16 99 15
16 100 12
16 101 999
16 102 999
16 103 12
16 104 16
16 105 15
16 106 17
16 107 10
16 108 13
16 109 15
16 110 18
16 111 16
16 112 9
16 113 8
16 114 13
16 115 16
16 116 12
16 117 16
16 118 14
16 119 10
16 120 10
16 121 30
16 122 4
16 123 9
16 124 27
16 125 13
16 126 42
16 127 14
16 128 27
16 129 4
16 130 14
16 131 32
16 132 7
16 133 6
16 134 999
16 135 4
16 136 7
16 137 11
16 138 5
16 139 7
16 140 14
16 141 999
16 142 999
16 143 999
16 144 999
16 145 12
16 146 7
16 147 32
16 148 32
16 149 999
16 150 999
16 151 44
16 152 999
16 153 999
16 154 14
16 155 18
16 156 999
16 157 24
16 158 12
16 159 21
16 160 9
16 161 13
16 162 12
16 163 13
16 164 4
16 165 4
16 166 6
16 167 6
16 168 6
16 169 999
16 170 999
16 171 999
16 172 13
16 173 10
16 174 13
16 175 4
16 176 999
16 177 999
16 178 14
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16 3012 13
16 3013 999
16 3014 999
16 3015 17
16 3016 9
16 3017 999
16 3018 11
16 3019 12
16 3020 11
16 3021 9
16 3022 12
16 3023 10
16 3024 12
16 3025 10
16 3026 999
16 3027 13
16 3028 10
16 3029 999
16 3030 11
16 3031 11
16 3032 16
16 3033 14
16 3034 11
16 3035 9
16 3036 12
16 3037 15
16 3038 13
16 3039 12
16 3040 11
16 3041 8
16 3042 11
16 3043 11
16 3044 12
16 3045 14
16 3046 12
16 3047 11
16 3048 9
16 3049 999
16 3050 11
16 3051 14
16 3052 12
16 3053 9
16 3054 16
16 3055 11
16 3056 11
16 3057 10
16 3058 9
16 3059 13
16 3060 13
16 3061 11
16 3062 7
16 3063 11
16 3064 14
16 3065 8
16 3066 17
16 3067 13
16 3068 13
16 3069 16
16 3070 12
16 3071 12
16 3072 10
16 3073 12
16 3074 11
16 3075 9
16 3076 7
16 3077 12
16 3078 14
16 3079 7
16 3080 8
16 3081 11
16 3082 11
16 3083 7
16 3084 12
16 3085 10
16 3086 13
16 3087 17
16 3088 11
16 3089 9
16 3090 12
16 3091 12
16 3092 8
16 3093 8
16 3094 9
16 3095 14
16 3096 15
16 3097 12
16 3098 13
16 3099 17
16 3100 999
16 3101 11
16 3102 11
16 3103 8
16 3104 15
16 3105 13
16 3106 15
16 3107 13
16 3108 11
16 3109 11
16 3110 12
16 3111 9
16 3112 12
16 3113 14
16 3114 13
16 3115 12
16 3116 12
16 3117 13
16 3118 12
16 3119 10
16 3120 9
16 3121 12
16 3122 15
16 3123 11
16 3124 15
16 3125 12
16 3126 999
16 3127 8
16 3128 6
16 3129 9
16 3130 8
16 3131 8
16 3132 6
16 3133 6
16 3134 999
16 3135 7
16 3136 6
16 3137 8
16 3138 8
16 3139 8
16 3140 8
16 3141 9
16 3142 10
16 3143 11
16 3144 8
16 3145 8
16 3146 9
16 3147 9
16 3148 7
16 3149 7
16 3150 7
16 3151 9
16 3152 9
16 3153 10
16 3154 999
16 3155 6
16 3156 10
16 3157 9
16 3158 16
16 3159 8
16 3160 11
16 3161 14
16 3162 12
16 3163 17
16 3164 17
16 3165 12
16 3166 13
16 3167 999
16 3168 12
16 3169 13
16 3170 12
16 3171 10
16 3172 10
16 3173 7
16 3174 13
16 3175 11
16 3176 8
16 3177 8
16 3178 10
16 3179 10
16 3180 8
16 3181 8
16 3182 9
16 3183 7
16 3184 9
16 3185 10
16 3186 8
16 3187 6
16 3188 12
16 3189 8
16 3190 7
16 3191 7
16 3192 8
16 3193 8
16 3194 9
16 3195 9
16 3196 10
16 3197 10
16 3198 8
16 3199 9
16 3200 7
16 3201 10
16 3202 8
16 3203 10
16 3204 9
16 3205 6
16 3206 6
16 3207 8
16 3208 8
16 3209 999
16 3210 8
16 3211 8
16 3212 12
16 3213 11
16 3214 9
16 3215 999
16 3216 10
16 3217 999
16 3218 10
16 3219 14
16 3220 12
16 3221 10
16 3222 12
16 3223 16
16 3224 11
16 3225 12
16 3226 9
16 3227 999
16 3228 12
16 3229 11
16 3230 12
16 3231 12
16 3232 10
16 3233 10
16 3234 11
16 3235 12
16 3236 11
16 3237 13
16 3238 10
16 3239 10
16 3240 8
16 3241 9
16 3242 9
16 3243 9
16 3244 13
16 3245 13
16 3246 9
16 3247 10
16 3248 10
16 3249 11
16 3250 11
16 3251 14
16 3252 9
16 3253 14
16 3254 12
16 3255 12
16 3256 12
16 3257 999
16 3258 12
16 3259 10
16 3260 999
16 3261 999
16 3262 10
16 3263 10
16 3264 8
16 3265 10
16 3266 10
16 3267 11
16 3268 8
16 3269 9
16 3270 11
16 3271 9
16 3272 15
16 3273 11
16 3274 11
16 3275 11
16 3276 11
16 3277 14
16 3278 10
16 3279 11
16 3280 12
16 3281 12
16 3282 9
16 3283 12
16 3284 12
16 3285 12
16 3286 11
It is much worse than Chris. In addition,
I attach the base found
still16.RAR
still lifes 16 bits
(254.82 KiB) Downloaded 640 times
.
Can't understand why such a large discrepancy. I use the database still lifes to 18 bits, and database converters. The database contains more than 300 converters

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by Goldtiger997 » January 14th, 2017, 9:31 am

BobShemyakin wrote:Publish my list for still lifes 16 bits:
...
It is much worse than Chris. In addition,
I attach the base found
still16.RAR
.
...
Bob Shemyakin
Nice. I just checked through the syntheses I found, and found an error.

16.2446 contains the error AbptzTa pointed out and then fixed in the 16 in 16 thread (glider would have to pass through a block). Here is the corrected synthesis again:

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x = 291, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
250bo$250bobo$250b2o$246bobo$247b2o$247bo2$126b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o38bo$
125bobo37bobo37bobo37bobo37bobo$126bo39bo39bo39bo39bo2$98bo25b5o35b5o
35b5o35b5o35b5o$77bo19bo26bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo$75bobo19b
3o27bo39bo39bo39bo39bo$76b2o12bo37b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o$73b2o15bobo
37bo39bo39bo39bo39bo$72bobo15b2o$74bo$87bobo$88b2o$4bo83bo47bo39bo$5bo
39bo39bo33b2o15bo22b2o15bo$3b3o38bobo37bobo32b2o15bo22b2o15bo$44bobo
37bobo$3o42bo39bo91b3o$2bo118b3o3b3o31b3o3b3o7bo$bo76b3o90b2o5bo$80bo
44bo39bo4b2o$79bo6b2o37bo39bo6bo$87b2o36bo39bo$86bo$101b3o11b2o$101bo
12b2o$102bo13bo!
Last edited by Goldtiger997 on January 14th, 2017, 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by chris_c » January 14th, 2017, 9:50 am

BobShemyakin wrote:Publish my list for still lifes 16 bits:

Can't understand why such a large discrepancy. I use the database still lifes to 18 bits, and database converters. The database contains more than 300 converters
Well it looks promising to me. I think there are 331 still lifes on my list that aren't on yours and 62 still lifes on your list that aren't on mine. Amongst still lifes on both lists I claim a lower cost for 563, while you claim a lower cost for 196. I will start to look through your collection!

EDIT: Looking over your syntheses I have already managed to improve roughly 70 SLs in my own database. I have a few queries about some other things...

Is it possible for you to show explicit syntheses with the following costs. I don't think they are available in any of your collections so far.

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12.96 7
13.39 6
13.178 7
13.205 7   (EDIT: it's ok I've got this one now)
14.7 9
14.587 8
14.617 8
Also I believe these are errors in your collections:

Synthesis of 16.625 is actually 15.625

Synthesis of 16.552 is actually of 16.652. This also affects the cost of 15.280 I think.

Synthesis of 16.638 is too small by 2. I think it doesn't count the final conversion from 16.637 to 16.638.

I am bit suspicious about the records for 15.1304, 15.1337 and 16.605. They all use the same aircraft carrier to long python converter. You claim records for 15.1304, 15.1337 and 16.605 but you don't seem to claim records for the 13 and 14-bit still lifes they are based on. Is this correct?

The collection is nice. I found lots of converters that were new to me. Thanks.

EDIT2: I can now match your costs 15.1304 and 15.1337 but they use a different converter than you. Still not sure how to get 16.605 at the cost you state though.

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x = 113, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
46bo$46bobo$46b2o$110bo$110bobo$110b2o7$15b2o$16bo64b2o$16bobo62bo$17b
2o63bo$19b2o62bo$19bobo60b2o$20bo63b2o$84bobo$85bo14$11b2o$10bobo64b2o
$12bo63bobo$5b3o70bo$bo5bo63b3o$b2o3bo60bo5bo$obo64b2o3bo$66bobo!

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BobShemyakin » January 17th, 2017, 2:49 pm

chris_c wrote:...

Is it possible for you to show explicit syntheses with the following costs. I don't think they are available in any of your collections so far.

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12.96 7
13.39 6
13.178 7
13.205 7   (EDIT: it's ok I've got this one now)
14.7 9
14.587 8
14.617 8
Also I believe these are errors in your collections:

Synthesis of 16.625 is actually 15.625

Synthesis of 16.552 is actually of 16.652. This also affects the cost of 15.280 I think.

Synthesis of 16.638 is too small by 2. I think it doesn't count the final conversion from 16.637 to 16.638.

...
Thanks!
I have no doubt that there are errors in my collection. Although the search for synthesis and verification go programmatically, the original data is necessary to cook manually.
I myself found several errors in numbering still lifes. Errors in the database converters will most likely result in the fact that they wont work.
I will certainly bear your jeamechanija for further work.


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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by Goldtiger997 » April 20th, 2019, 7:41 am

Posting here to announce that all syntheses of 15-bit still-lifes have been reduced to below 14 gliders. This result can be seen here on catagolue. However, in it's current state the list is slightly confusing since it also includes some pseudo still-lifes. Looking at the list, you can see that all of the still-lifes marked as costing 14 or more gliders are actually pseudo still-lifes.

Here is a pattern containing the 13 syntheses I had to do to meet this goal:

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x = 409, y = 322, rule = B3/S23
186bo$184bobo$185b2o4$347bo$202bo145bo$191bo10bobo141b3o$192b2o8b2o$
191b2o177bo5bobo$371bo5b2o$369b3o5bo3$9bo197bo$7bobo64bo132bobo$8b2o
63bo133b2o179bo$53bo19b3o310b2o$52bobo332b2o$52bo2bo5bo305b2o$53b2o5bo
305bobo$60b3o305bo$169bo41b2o$170bo29b2o9bobo$59b3o106b3o29b2o9bo173bo
$16b3o31bo8bo325bobo$16bo34bo8bo312bobo9b2o3b2o$17bo31b3o12b2o102b2o
31b3o169b2o14b2o$64bobo100b2o32bo172bo16bo$64bo104bo32bo2$53b3o111bo
30b2o$55bo111b2o29b2o$54bo111bobo5$43b3o$45bo$44bo329b2o$222b3o148b2o$
222bo152bo4b2o$223bo155b2o$381bo24$bo$2bo$3o5$356bo$357b2o$356b2o2$21b
obo$22b2o16bobo$22bo10bobo4b2o$33b2o6bo$30bo3bo$28b2o$29b2o$65bo96bobo
$63b3o96b2o$62bo100bo3bo$63bo102bo216bo7bo$12b3o47b2o102b3o214bobo4bo$
8bo5bo6b3o38bo320b2o5b3o$8b2o3bo7bo41bo$7bobo12bo41bo305bo$63b2o4bo
298bobo$38bo28b2o300b2o$37b2o29b2o$37bobo23bo321bo$63b2o320bobo$62bobo
3b2o315b2o$67bobo$69bo$184bo$185b2o$184b2o185bo$366bo2bobo11bobo$366b
2o2b2o11b2o$365bobo16bo2$204bo$204bobo$204b2o187b3o$393bo$211b2o181bo$
210bo2bo$211b2o$222b2o58b2o$223bo59bo$222bo59bo86b2o$221bo59bo86bobo$
203b2o15bo59bo89bo$203bobo15b3o57b3o88b2o$204bo19bo59bo87bobo$223bo59b
o88bo$126bo96b2o54bo3b2o$127bo74b3o13b3o59bo$125b3o76bo73b3o$203bo79b
2o$218bo64bobo$218bo59b2o3bo$209b2o7bo58b2o$209b2o68bo2$45bo$44bo18bo$
44b3o16bobo$58bo4b2o$58bobo$58b2o52b2o$113b2o5b2o$35bobo74bo8b2o$36b2o
82bo26b3o$36bo112bo$148bo$152b2o$8bobo140b2o245b3o$9b2o142bo244bo$9bo
14bobo372bo$25b2o$25bo5b2o$30bobo19bo$32bo18bo$51b3o$41b3o$8b2o$9b2o$
8bo19$394bo$392b2o$393b2o2$358bobo$359b2o$29b2o328bo$28bobo$30bo4$183b
obo$65b2o117b2o$65bobo116bo204bobo5bo$65bo323b2o4b2o$363bo26bo5b2o$
364bo21bo$362b3o19b2o$385b2o7$191bobo$192b2o$192bo6$232b2o$17bo210b2o
3bo$15bobo210bo2bo$16b2o170bo41b3o$188b2o43bo$187bobo42b2o165b2o$45bo
156b2o32bo162bobo$46bo24bo124b2o4bobo30bo163bo$44b3o22b2o125bobo3bo32b
3o154bo$70b2o124bo28b2o164b2o$224bobo164bobo$47bobo131b2o43bo2b3o6b2o
147b2o$47b2o131bobo46bo7b2o124bo22b2o$48bo133bo47bo8bo123b2o23bo$362bo
bo$23bo164b2o$21bobo164bobo$22b2o164bo$56bo$54b2o$55b2o2$206b3o$38bo
167bo$38b2o167bo$37bobo17$345bo$25b2o32b2o285bo$24bobo32bobo282b3o$26b
o32bo$33b3o$35bo$34bo10$383bo$384b2o$383b2o3$406bobo$406b2o$407bo$18bo
$16bobo$17b2o3$61bo$60bo333bo$60b3o331bobo$394b2o2$215bo$216b2o$43bo
171b2o6bo16bobo$42bo179bo17b2o$42b3o177b3o16bo$49bobo$49b2o$50bo2$36bo
364bo$37bo345bo17bobo$35b3o346bo16b2o$210b3o20b3o146b3o$212bo20bo$36b
2o173bo22bo$37b2o338b3o26b2o$36bo192b2o148bo26bobo$228bobo147bo27bo$
230bo$48b2o$38b2o8bobo$37bobo8bo$39bo$41b2o$41bobo$41bo2$378b2o$379b2o
$378bo3$25b2o$26b2o161b3o$25bo165bo$190bo!

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » April 20th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:Posting here to announce that all syntheses of 15-bit still-lifes have been reduced to below 14 gliders.
Wow, very nice!
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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by Goldtiger997 » April 21st, 2019, 8:56 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Wow, very nice!
Thanks! A related but more minor result is that now every 13-bit still life has a synthesis in less than 11 gliders. This required me to make only two new syntheses, with some help from Sarp:

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x = 94, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
2bo90bo$obo88b2o$b2o89b2o7$34bo$33b2o$33bobo$8b3o$10bo$9bo81bo$36b2o
48b2o2b2o$6b2o27b2o48bobo2bobo$5bobo9b2o3bo14bo49bo$7bo8bobo2b2o$18bo
2bobo56b3o$82bo$81bo$73b2o$72bobo$74bo2$90b2o$90bobo$90bo!
Edit: Now all 11-bit still-lifes have syntheses in less than 8 gliders:

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x = 46, y = 85, rule = B3/S23
25bobo$25b2o$26bo$16bo$14b2o$15b2o15$17b2o$16b2o$18bo4b3o$23bo$24bo4$
3b2o$2bobo19b2o$4bo19bobo$24bo2$21b2o$20b2o$22bo16$13bobo$14b2o$14bo
14$38bo$36b2o$37b2o3$37b3o3b2o$37bo5bobo$38bo4bo4$2bo33b2o$2o33bo2bo$b
2o7bo25b2o$9b2o19b3o$4bo4bobo$3b2o$3bobo!

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Re: 15 in 15: Efficient 15-bit Synthesis Project (DONE!)

Post by calcyman » April 21st, 2019, 12:20 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:Posting here to announce that all syntheses of 15-bit still-lifes have been reduced to below 14 gliders. This result can be seen here on catagolue. However, in it's current state the list is slightly confusing since it also includes some pseudo still-lifes. Looking at the list, you can see that all of the still-lifes marked as costing 14 or more gliders are actually pseudo still-lifes.
The Catagolue update process now runs all of the new Shinjuku objects through apgsearch, thereby determining which ones are true and which are pseudo. By a dodgy hack (internally adding 10^17 to the glider count for true objects), all true objects are displayed above all pseudo-objects in Catagolue's synthesis-costs tabulations. For example:

https://gol.hatsya.co.uk/census/b3s23/s ... ffset=3200

Line 3286 contains the cheapest true xs16 (the 3-glider bipond), and line 3287 contains the most expensive pseudo xs16 (the 27-glider block on snake-tie-snake). This is perfectly consistent with the OEIS count of 3286 strict still lifes of 16 bits.

As such, Goldtiger's results are now much easier to verify (by looking at the first line in the tabulation).

A side-effect is that the annotations (true) or (pseudo) appear in the #CSYNTH line on the Catagolue page. For example:

https://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xs16_kc3qp3z11/b3s23

contains the infobox:

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#C [[ GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 THEME Catagolue ]] 
#CSYNTH xs16_kc3qp3z11 costs 27 gliders (pseudo).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 387, y = 148, rule = B3/S23
210bo$208bobo$209b2o83bo$293bo$293b3o13$192bobo$193b2o$193bo31$
243bo2b2ob2o$242bobo2bobo$243b2obo2bo$246bobo$242bob2obo$242b2o2bo
$245bo$242b3o$242bo3$56bo$56bobo$56b2o$115bo$59b2o52b3o$58bo2bo50b
o$58bobo50bo2b2o$43b2o11b2obo37bo12bob2obo267bo$44b2o9bo2bo39b2o9b
obo48bo170bo2b2o46bo$43bo11bobo39b2o9bo2bo46b3o169bobo2bo46b3o$10b
o45bo52b2o46bo173b2obo44bo$10bobo143bo2b2o173b2o41bobo$10b2o81bo4b
2o55bob2obo169bob2o44b2o$6bo87bo4b2o53bobo173b2obo6b2o40bo2b2o$obo
3b2o84b3o3bo54bo2bo183b2o39bobo2bo$b2o2bobo145bobo4b2o182b2o36b2ob
o$bo150b2ob2o2b2o183bobo38b2o$108b2o51bo182bo36bob2o$52bo54bobo9b
2o260b2obo$52b2o3bo51bo9bobo$51bobo2b2o54b2o5bo$56bobo54b2o$112bo
2$51b2o$51bobo$51bo12$297b3o$297bo$195b2o101bo$196b2o$195bo3$198b
3o$200bo$199bo32$246bo$247b2o$246b2o4bo$252bobo$252b2o$246b2o$245b
obo$247bo!
Once we have a Niemiec-esque system for synthesising 'easy' still-lifes and adding them to Shinjuku, it should be fairly straightforward to orchestrate a '17 in 17' project without any tedious manual bookkeeping.

EDIT: Aha, this trick of pushing true still-lifes to the top has the fortunate side-effect that if a tabulation exceeds 900 KB compressed, it will only lose pseudo still-lifes (because the ones towards the bottom drop off). That's good if we ever attempt a '20 in 20' project.
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