## apgsearch v2.2

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drc
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

Saka wrote:Err...
Nevermind
more like
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

drc wrote:
Saka wrote:Err...
Nevermind
more like
What rule is it in? Can you make a link to the page? I cant seem to find it

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o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$
4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b
obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!  (Check gen 3) Add your computer to the Table of Lifeenthusiast Computers! drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 Saka wrote: drc wrote: Saka wrote:Err... Nevermind more like What rule is it in? Can you make a link to the page? I cant seem to find it It's in a custom rule, I just thought the last part was appropriate for the... erm.. shape of the still life \100\97\110\105 Saka Posts: 3417 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X Contact: ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 drc wrote: Saka wrote: What rule is it in? Can you make a link to the page? I cant seem to find it It's in a custom rule, I just thought the last part was appropriate for the... erm.. shape of the still life Image please? Code: Select all o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!

(Check gen 3)

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

Saka wrote:
drc wrote:
Saka wrote: What rule is it in? Can you make a link to the page? I cant seem to find it
It's in a custom rule, I just thought the last part was appropriate for the... erm.. shape of the still life
I found the rule:

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@RULE B3S23-q
@TABLE
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neighborhood:Moore
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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3S23-q
b2o$o2bo$bobo$2bo3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o!
And the missing survival transition making this rule different:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3S23-q
2o$bo$2bo!

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calcyman
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

I *think* Catagolue in its current state should be able to accept custom rules (it accepts custom symmetries), although I'll have to modify it to not attempt to produce animated SVGs for non-standard rules.

I'll need to see a sample progress file from A for Awesome's script to make sure it's compatible, though.
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drc
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

I feel like we should be able to request a rule be "named" for example on the website it could say "B36/S125 (2x2)" instead of just "B36/S125"
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

calcyman wrote:I *think* Catagolue in its current state should be able to accept custom rules (it accepts custom symmetries), although I'll have to modify it to not attempt to produce animated SVGs for non-standard rules.

I'll need to see a sample progress file from A for Awesome's script to make sure it's compatible, though.
I don't know, myself. It still reports the version as v0.54; is there any particular requirement for the format, or does my v0.54+0.Ni work? Also, there is an extra feature involving pseudo-objects in my forthcoming version that would have to be disabled, as I am assuming that a server-side workaround would be an inconvenience. Also, how do you plan to verify the hauls? What if, for example, someone searches a custom rule table for (for example) tlife, but then realizes that they were using an erroneous rule table and they submit a haul that looks right superficially but instead contains a lot of objects that don't even work in the specified rule? Also, sometimes there are bugs caused by modifying a rule table after running apgsearch on it that result in xq1's being reported; how would those be dealt with?

I don't even know enough about v1.N and Catagolue to be able to make certain that whatever data my version sends wouldn't break Catagolue, as it is.

Anyway, here's a sample progress file for tlife (Note the large quantity of xp160s, mostly non-interacting pairs or triples):

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@VERSION v0.54
@MD5 4d27b3227e0c7ba3bff0db86b439ff66
@ROOT 2015-12-28T18:27:22.657664
@RULE tlife
@SYMMETRY C1
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x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

drc wrote:I found the rule:

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@RULE B3S23-q
...
Ah, good, that's Alan Hensel's non-totalistic rule notation. [EDIT: Brian Prentice pointed out that I had the wrong link -- was pointing to the original table, before Alan reshuffled it in September 2000. Fixed now. Thanks, Brian!]

There seems to have been a lot of investigation of non-totalistic rules lately. For example, there's an eight-page thread on "tlife", which Hensel's notation renders as "B3/S2-i34q".

It might make sense to support non-totalistic rules formally in Catagolue, at least to the extent of recognizing standard rule names -- I don't know if it's worth getting the animated SVGs working, but it shouldn't be too horribly difficult. Standardizing on Hensel's format might help prevent the problem mentioned above, of people using different rule table variants but reporting results to the same rule name; that sounds messy.

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I'm kind of surprised that there isn't a Hensel-non-totalistic-gen.py script in Golly's Rule-Generators folder by this time, actually. Should be straightforward to write -- just a lookup table between lines of the rule table and letters in the rule string, isn't it? Well, except for the minus signs, I suppose.

-- Anyone want to tackle that project? I'd be happy to test it and check it in to Golly.

I'll try to remember to put something on golly-test also, and see what Tom Rokicki thinks about adding native support in Golly for Hensel's format. No promises there, though...!

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

dvgrn wrote:I'll try to remember to put something on golly-test also, and see what Tom Rokicki thinks about adding native support in Golly for Hensel's format.
Seconded. Native support for non-totalistic rules would be very helpful. Also, what about combining that with Generations or allowing arbitrary [R]History rules?
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

dvgrn wrote:I'm kind of surprised that there isn't a Hensel-non-totalistic-gen.py script in Golly's Rule-Generators folder by this time, actually. Should be straightforward to write -- just a lookup table between lines of the rule table and letters in the rule string, isn't it? Well, except for the minus signs, I suppose.
I think at least hex neighborhood should be supported. Von Moore isn't that interesting.
\100\97\110\105

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

The progress file you showed me seems to be perfectly Catagolue-compatible. Have fun!
is there any particular requirement for the format, or does my v0.54+0.Ni work?
It can't contain any spaces, but v0.54+0.1i (for example) should be fine.
Also, there is an extra feature involving pseudo-objects in my forthcoming version that would have to be disabled, as I am assuming that a server-side workaround would be an inconvenience.
Indeed.
Also, how do you plan to verify the hauls?
I don't. Catagolue only verifies hauls for b3s23/C1.
What if, for example, someone searches a custom rule table for (for example) tlife, but then realizes that they were using an erroneous rule table and they submit a haul that looks right superficially but instead contains a lot of objects that don't even work in the specified rule? Also, sometimes there are bugs caused by modifying a rule table after running apgsearch on it that result in xq1's being reported; how would those be dealt with?
Make your script create a backup of the rule-table and chmod it to be read-only (and only read from the backup)?
Von Moore isn't that interesting.
Who's Von Moore?
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

calcyman wrote:Who's Von Moore?
*Neumann, sorry

I mixed up Moore and Von Neumann
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

What is the current haul minimum size for Catagolue? In some code I'm borrowing, the number 100000 is hardcoded as the minimum, but I want to know what I should change that to.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

Should http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs2 ... f033/b3s23 be on my "my discoveries" page?

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o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$
4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b
obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!  (Check gen 3) Add your computer to the Table of Lifeenthusiast Computers! calcyman Posts: 2199 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 A for awesome wrote:What is the current haul minimum size for Catagolue? In some code I'm borrowing, the number 100000 is hardcoded as the minimum, but I want to know what I should change that to. I think it might be 10001 (I can't remember whether I used <= or < in the testing code). What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! wildmyron Posts: 1398 Joined: August 9th, 2013, 12:45 am ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 dvgrn wrote:I'm kind of surprised that there isn't a Hensel-non-totalistic-gen.py script in Golly's Rule-Generators folder by this time, actually. Should be straightforward to write -- just a lookup table between lines of the rule table and letters in the rule string, isn't it? Well, except for the minus signs, I suppose. -- Anyone want to tackle that project? I'd be happy to test it and check it in to Golly. There are two scripts available which are most of the way there. • EricG's original script HenselNotation->Ruletable(1.3).py which uses the r/y swapped version of Hensel's notation (i.e. the neighbours.html version). It is very nicely documented though. And, • The rule generator which is part of the isotropic apgsearch I posted on the Hacking apgsearch thread after Scorbie posted a version using existing rules. The rule generator can be used standalone to generate just the 2-state isotropic rules using the included isotropic-rule.py script. This script is based on the neighbours2.html version of Hensel's notation, which in addition to the r/y swap replaced n with v. I would be happy to work with you to clean those up and get a script checked into Golly, but I think there's one aspect which still needs deciding on, and that is a canonical form for the representation - to avoid having multiple rule files representing the same rule. However, I think native support in Golly would be a better option. I'm excited about using Catagolue to record soup search results in other rules. But I do think a few details should be sorted out before submitting hauls for non-totalistic rules - in particular the canonical rule name format mentioned above, and potentially a means of associating rule nicknames with the canonical representation of the rule name. The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 226,000 spaceships. There is also a GitHub mirror of the collection. Tabulated pages up to period 160 (out of date) are available on the LifeWiki. A for awesome Posts: 2043 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 I experimentally tried to submit a haul in tlife to Catagolue just a moment ago, and it seems that Catagolue rejected it. I don't know why this is. Here's the file, if anyone's interested: Code: Select all @VERSION v0.54+0.2i @MD5 eb82e19db31c3566bd4642c04d4a7464 @ROOT rwHwx8vEm8Ye @RULE tlife @SYMMETRY C1 @NUM_SOUPS 10302 @NUM_OBJECTS 42877 @CENSUS TABLE xs4_33 17137 xs6_696 9047 xs7_2596 3099 xq4_153 2795 xq5_27 2792 xs5_253 2021 xs8_69ic 1415 xs8_6996 1353 xs4_252 642 xs6_356 589 xp160_3v 502 xs8_33cc 349 xp4_69f 209 xq4_1ba4 190 xs12_4alla4 186 xs12_g8o653z11 171 xs14_6970796 101 xs7_25ac 65 xp2_7e 52 xs8_25ak8 50 xs6_25a4 27 xs10_33cko 24 xs16_ciddiczw11 15 xs8_35ac 15 xs6_39c 8 xs6_bd 4 xs12_o4q552z01 3 xs7_178c 3 xs11_g8o652z11 2 xs14_69bqic 1 xs16_g88m996z1221 1 xs9_256oo 1 xs9_4aar 1 xs14_39e0eic 1 xs12_330f96 1 xs11_ggkc33z1 1 xs8_3pm 1 xs10_g8o652z01 1 xs11_69lic 1 xs15_0ggci96z343 1 @TOP 100 8477 13 1882 10 8982 5 948 5 8943 5 3429 4 1025 3 4409 3 2495 2 3971 1 7047 1 6164 1 1942 1 7836 1 6951 1 1195 1 4780 1 9945 1 9565 1 5984 1 4070 1 2919 1 4206 1 1649 1 @SAMPLE_SOUPIDS xs4_33 72 385 385 532 532 752 813 813 812 812 xs6_696 764 752 1665 1665 1775 2164 2164 3160 3745 3931 xs7_2596 77 72 72 80 76 68 57 57 58 55 xs5_253 77 76 77 76 69 71 68 69 59 52 xs8_69ic 73 47 49 43 33 15 129 133 134 143 xs8_6996 70 68 70 66 54 48 38 38 16 12 xs4_252 64 61 49 39 12 94 92 142 149 168 xs6_356 66 38 32 27 7 97 91 119 139 146 xp160_3v 36 173 177 172 145 133 122 88 89 81 xs8_33cc 60 52 43 30 99 128 159 153 153 204 xp4_69f 72 58 43 25 24 148 150 121 82 239 xq4_1ba4 64 52 5 124 268 306 547 577 641 683 xs12_4alla4 57 39 25 194 217 447 538 538 601 657 xs12_g8o653z11 65 65 136 136 111 111 750 750 885 902 xs14_6970796 18 18 172 162 162 155 155 353 353 881 xs7_25ac 265 245 462 466 609 660 884 1039 1409 1473 xp2_7e 205 538 942 1232 1415 1414 1697 1837 1875 2019 xs8_25ak8 150 234 339 585 848 905 1197 1240 1621 1901 xs6_25a4 42 494 672 831 964 1576 2360 2394 2439 2668 xs10_33cko 1221 1208 1312 1366 1758 1846 2516 4221 4263 4280 xs16_ciddiczw11 1195 1649 1942 2919 3971 4070 4206 4780 5984 6164 xs8_35ac 1285 1646 2546 2806 3364 3985 5077 6937 7292 7769 xs6_39c 3127 3223 4853 5269 5569 6297 6310 10193 xs6_bd 1029 3852 6011 7802 xs12_o4q552z01 948 8982 8943 xs7_178c 2784 3128 8639 xs11_g8o652z11 334 9257 xs14_69bqic 3574 xs16_g88m996z1221 1352 xs9_256oo 2495 xs9_4aar 7995 xs14_39e0eic 1025 xs12_330f96 4409 xs11_ggkc33z1 1882 xs8_3pm 7562 xs10_g8o652z01 1634 xs11_69lic 3429 xs15_0ggci96z343 8477  x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce calcyman Posts: 2199 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: apgsearch v2.2 A for awesome wrote:I experimentally tried to submit a haul in tlife to Catagolue just a moment ago, and it seems that Catagolue rejected it. I don't know why this is. Here's the file, if anyone's interested: By 'just a moment ago', do you mean 19:04:57 (over an hour ago)? There were five attempts in quick succession (each one 200ms apart), each with the following stacktrace: Code: Select all java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: name cannot be null or empty at com.google.appengine.api.datastore.KeyFactory.createKey(KeyFactory.java:82) at com.google.appengine.api.datastore.KeyFactory.createKey(KeyFactory.java:77) at com.google.appengine.api.datastore.KeyFactory$Builder.addChild(KeyFactory.java:276)
at com.cp4space.payosha256.PayoshaUtils.getToken(PayoshaUtils.java:163)
at com.cp4space.payosha256.PayoshaUtils.callPayosha(PayoshaUtils.java:223)
at com.cp4space.catagolue.servlets.PayoshaServlet.doPost(PayoshaServlet.java:109)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:637)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:511)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166) at com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.ParseBlobUploadFilter.doFilter(ParseBlobUploadFilter.java:125) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.JdbcMySqlConnectionCleanupFilter.doFilter(JdbcMySqlConnectionCleanupFilter.java:60) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:388) at org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:216) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:182) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:765) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:418) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.AppVersionHandlerMap.handle(AppVersionHandlerMap.java:260) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:152) at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:542) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.headerComplete(HttpConnection.java:923)
at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:404)
at com.google.apphosting.runtime.JavaRuntime$RequestRunnable.run(JavaRuntime.java:469) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.runInContext(TraceContext.java:437)
at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable$1.run(TraceContext.java:444)
at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContextNoUnref(TraceContext.java:308) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContext(TraceContext.java:300)
at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.run(TraceContext.java:441) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.ThreadGroupPool$PoolEntry.run(ThreadGroupPool.java:235)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
I don't understand why this would happen, since it hasn't even attempted to submit the haul at this point (it was just contacting /payosha256 to obtain a token for the proof-of-work).
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

calcyman wrote:
A for awesome wrote:I experimentally tried to submit a haul in tlife to Catagolue just a moment ago, and it seems that Catagolue rejected it. I don't know why this is. Here's the file, if anyone's interested:
By 'just a moment ago', do you mean 19:04:57 (over an hour ago)? There were five attempts in quick succession (each one 200ms apart), each with the following stacktrace:

Code: Select all

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: name cannot be null or empty
at com.google.appengine.api.datastore.KeyFactory$Builder.addChild(KeyFactory.java:276) at com.cp4space.payosha256.PayoshaUtils.getToken(PayoshaUtils.java:163) at com.cp4space.payosha256.PayoshaUtils.callPayosha(PayoshaUtils.java:223) at com.cp4space.catagolue.servlets.PayoshaServlet.doPost(PayoshaServlet.java:109) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:637) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:511) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.SaveSessionFilter.doFilter(SaveSessionFilter.java:37) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.TransactionCleanupFilter.doFilter(TransactionCleanupFilter.java:43) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:388)
at org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:216)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:182)
at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:765)
at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:418)
at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:152)
at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326)
at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:542)
at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.headerComplete(HttpConnection.java:923) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.RpcRequestParser.parseAvailable(RpcRequestParser.java:78) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:404) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.JettyServletEngineAdapter.serviceRequest(JettyServletEngineAdapter.java:148) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.JavaRuntime$RequestRunnable.run(JavaRuntime.java:469)
at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.runInContext(TraceContext.java:437) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable$1.run(TraceContext.java:444) at com.google.tracing.CurrentContext.runInContext(CurrentContext.java:256) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContextNoUnref(TraceContext.java:308)
at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContext(TraceContext.java:300) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.run(TraceContext.java:441)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
I don't understand why this would happen, since it hasn't even attempted to submit the haul at this point (it was just contacting /payosha256 to obtain a token for the proof-of-work).
That might be when I tried to test the peer-reviewing (another thing that I'm not sure why it isn't working); otherwise, I don't know why there were 5 attempts. If that is indeed the case, I don't know why it seems to have not even submitted the haul.

Edit: I think I figured it out; I forgot to import urllib2. I still don't know why the peer-reviewing isn't working; will it mess anything up if I just remove that section?

Edit 2: Worked this time! Only one thing: catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup always gives the rulename for the rle in all caps. As this raises lots of pointless warnings if one tries to paste the rle into Golly, is there any way to change this?
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

A for awesome wrote:Edit 2: Worked this time! Only one thing: catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup always gives the rulename for the rle in all caps. As this raises lots of pointless warnings if one tries to paste the rle into Golly, is there any way to change this?
Great! Yes, I'll rectify that at the same time I get the animated SVGs working properly.
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

Another problem: It is impossible to access the object pages for the objects, because the rule isn't recognized, so Catagolue can't test whether the object can actually work in that particular rule.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

Where is the script? Are other rules going to be accepted? (besides tlife)
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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

drc wrote:Where is the script? Are other rules going to be accepted? (besides tlife)
I have not released the script yet, as I don't entirely know what bugs are present, if any; yes, other rules will be accepted, not just tlife (I just haven't got around to trying them yet).
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

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### Re: apgsearch v2.2

A for awesome wrote:
drc wrote:Where is the script? Are other rules going to be accepted? (besides tlife)
I have not released the script yet, as I don't entirely know what bugs are present, if any; yes, other rules will be accepted, not just tlife (I just haven't got around to trying them yet).
Cool!
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