I had tried to think of a good name, but didn't come up with anything, so "rattlesnake" is fine with me. Thanks for the suggestion.Freywa wrote:DRH's new p11 seems to be crying out for a name, even though it doesn't immediately resemble anything. I'm going to call it rattlesnake (11 letters and has a snake for a rock)...
Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
[quote="Scorbie"
EDIT: 2) Ran the search with a TL which gave all the known TL hasslers I know. [/quote]
Have you tried it with prepulsars as opposed to singular TLs?
EDIT: 2) Ran the search with a TL which gave all the known TL hasslers I know. [/quote]
Have you tried it with prepulsars as opposed to singular TLs?
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
@BlinkerSpawn Actually, I was going to use that in my next search. I don't have high hopes, though.
Best wishes to you, Scorbie
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Try Lumps of Muck, and maybe RpentominosScorbie wrote:Ran the search with a TL which gave all the known TL hasslers I know (The p36 and the p27) but didn't give any new ones.
Matthias Merzenich
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Thanks for the suggestions. I also thought they are good candidates, but I wasn't sure which positions would the Rs recover best among:Sokwe wrote:Try Lumps of Muck, and maybe RpentominosScorbie wrote:Ran the search with a TL which gave all the known TL hasslers I know (The p36 and the p27) but didn't give any new ones.
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x = 38, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
34bo$7b2o25b2o$6b2o25b2o$2bo4bo$2b2o$b2o$33b2o$32b2o$33bo23$bo30b2o$b
2o28b2o$2o30bo$6b2o28bo$5b2o29b2o$6bo28b2o!
(Pis seem to be a good option, too...)
Best wishes to you, Scorbie
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Something similar to the rattlesnake. Not sure if anyone will work out a small p48 on it.
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x = 13, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$ob2obobo4bo$2obobo4b3o$6bo2bo$4bo4b2o3$4bo$2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo$2b2ob
obobo$6bo2b3o$7b2o3bo$9b3o$9bo!
Still drifting.
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Here is a p48 based on an interaction by Noam Elkies:Bullet51 wrote:Something similar to the rattlesnake. Not sure if anyone will work out a small p48 on it.
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x = 24, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
6bo3b2o$7b2ob2o$5bobo9b2o$6bo10bo$2o2b3o5bobo3b3o$2o9bob5o2bo$18bo$10b
ob4o2b2o$10bo5bobo2bo$6b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o$6bo2bobo5bo$8b2o2b5o$9bo13bo$7b
o2b5obo4b3o$7b3o3bo3bo2bo$10bo4bo4b2o$9b2o2$15bo$11b2o3b2o$11bo2bobo2b
o$13b2obobobo$14bobo2b2o$14bobo$15bo!
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x = 13, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$ob2obobo4bo$2obobo4b3o$6bo2bo$4bo4b2o3$4bo$2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo$2b2ob
obobo$3bobo2b2o$3bobo$4bo!
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x = 25, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4bo15bo$3bobo13bobo$3bobo13bobo$b3ob2o11b2ob3o$o23bo$b3ob2o11b2ob3o$3b
ob2o11b2obo$10bo3bo$11bobo$10b2ob2o$8bo2bobo2bo$7bobobobobobo$7b2o2bob
o2b2o$11bobo$12bo!
Matthias Merzenich
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Hmm! To summarize all the above, these three are closely related:Sokwe wrote:It turns out to be closely related to Buckingham's p13:
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x = 66, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
3b2o4b2o12b2o5b2obo14b2o3b2obo$4bo5bo13bo5bob2o15bo3bob2o$3bo5bo13bo
10b2o12bo8b2o$3b2o4b2o12b2o9bo13b2o7bo$35bo22bo$3b2o4b2o12b2o9b2o12b2o
7b2o$4bo5bo13bo5b2obo15bo3b2obo$3bo5bo13bo6bob2o14bo4bob2o$3b2o4b2o12b
2o3b2o18b2o7b2o$28bo28bo$3b2o4b2o12b2o4bo18b2o8bo$4bo5bo13bo3b2o19bo7b
2o$3bo5bo13bo6b2obo14bo4b2obo$3b2o4b2o12b2o5bob2o14b2o3bob2o7$8b2o18b
2o$8bo13bob2obobo4bo$9bo12b2obobo4b3o$8b2o16b2o3bo$31b2o3$5b3o19b3o$5b
ob2o13b2o3bob2o$2obobobo14bo2bobobo$ob2obobobo14b2obobobo$6bo2b3o16bo
2b3o$7b2o3bo16b2o3bo$9b3o19b3o$9bo21bo4$45bo15bo$28b2o14bobo13bobo$22b
ob2obobo4bo9bobo13bobo$22b2obobo4b3o7b3ob2o11b2ob3o$26b2o3bo9bo23bo$
31b2o9b3ob2o11b2ob3o$44bob2o11b2obo2$27b3o20b3ob3o$22b2o3bob2o18b2obob
ob2o$22bo2bobobo20bobobobo$24b2obobobo16bobobobobobo$25bobo2b2o16b2o2b
obo2b2o$25bobo24bobo$26bo26bo!
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x = 22, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
3bo$b3o$o3b2o$b3o2bo$3bobobob2o$4bo2bobo2bo$6b2o3b2o$8bo3$2b2o4bo$3bo
2bo3bo2bo$3o4bob5o$o$7b5o3b2o$6bo5bo2bo$7b2o2b2o3bo$5bobobo3b3obo$4bob
o2b3o5bo2bo$4bo2b2o4b2o2bobobo$3b2o4b3o5bo2bo$9bo2b4obo$12bo3bo$15bo$
15b2o!
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x = 23, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
3bo$b3o$o3b2o$b3o2bo$3bobobob2o$4bo2bobo2bo$6b2o3b2o$8bo3$2b2o4bo$3bo
2bo3bo2bo$3o4bob5o$o$7b5o$6bo5bo$7b2o2b2o4b2o$2b2obobobo3b2o2bo$2bob2o
bob4o2bobo3b2o$8bo3bobobob2o2bo$9b3o4bobob2o$12b2obo$7b4o2bob3o$7bo2b
2o2bo6b2o$15b3obo2bo$17bob2o!
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x = 22, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo$2o4b2obo$o2b2o3bo$b2o2$b2o$obobo3b2o$o3b2o2b2o$b4o10b2o$15bo$
3b2o4b2obo3b3o$3bo5b2ob4o2bo$5bo10bo$4b2o3b5o2b2o$8bo5bobo2bo$4b2o3b2o
2b2o3b2o$4bo2bobo5bo$6b2o2b5o$7bo13bo$5bo2b5obo4b3o$5b3o3bo3bo2bo$8bo
4bo4b2o$7b2o2$13bo$9b2o3b2o$9bo2bob
o2bo$11b2obobobo$15bo2b3o$16b2o3bo$
18b3o$18bo!
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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bobo$8bo$7b2o$4bo4b2o$2o2bob3o2bo$o7bobobo$b7o3bo$8b3o$3b2obobo$
3b2ob2o!
Best wishes to you, Scorbie
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
This:
becomes great. It starts on gen 73.
Nick
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x = 15, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2o11b2o$bo4b3o4bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Here's another p12 that's related; it has the same 1bit spark as the rattlesnake:Bullet51 wrote:Something similar to the rattlesnake.
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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo$2o2b2o4bo$o2bobo3b2o$bobo$2bobo$4bo$4bob2o$3b2obo2bo$3bo4bobo
$5b2obo$6bobob3o$6bo2bo3bo$7bobo2b2o$8bo!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
A p12 weak sparker:
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x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bobo$b2o3b3o$bobobo3bo5bo$3bob2ob2o3b3o$2b2o8bo$5bob3o2bob2o$2b
2obo4bobo2bo$o2bobobob2o2bo$2o3bobo3bob2o$4b2obo3bobo2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b2o
$b2obo4bo$b2ob2o!
Still drifting.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Reduced:Bullet51 wrote:A p12 weak sparker:Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bobo$b2o3b3o$bobobo3bo5bo$3bob2ob2o3b3o$2b2o8bo$5bob3o2bob2o$2b 2obo4bobo2bo$o2bobobob2o2bo$2o3bobo3bob2o$4b2obo3bobo2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b2o $b2obo4bo$b2ob2o!
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x = 17, y = 13, rule = Life
5b2o$6bo$4bo4bo5bo$3bob5o3b3o$b3o8bo$o4bob3o2bob2o$b3obo4bobo2bo$3bobo
bob2o2bo$5bobo3bob2o$4bobobobo2bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b2o$b2obo$b2ob2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Slightly smaller in bounding box, rotor size, and total population:BlinkerSpawn wrote:Reduced:Bullet51 wrote:A p12 weak sparker:Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bobo$b2o3b3o$bobobo3bo5bo$3bob2ob2o3b3o$2b2o8bo$5bob3o2bob2o$2b 2obo4bobo2bo$o2bobobob2o2bo$2o3bobo3bob2o$4b2obo3bobo2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b2o $b2obo4bo$b2ob2o!
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x = 17, y = 13, rule = Life 5b2o$6bo$4bo4bo5bo$3bob5o3b3o$b3o8bo$o4bob3o2bob2o$b3obo4bobo2bo$3bobo bob2o2bo$5bobo3bob2o$4bobobobo2bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b2o$b2obo$b2ob2o!
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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6bo$8bo5bo$4b5o3b3o$3bo7bo$bo2bob3o2bob2o$b2obo4bobo2bo$2bobobob
2o2bo$bo2bobo3bob2o$bobobobobo2bo2bo$2obo2bo3bo3b2o$3bo$3b2o!
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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$6bo3bo2bo$4b5o2b2o$3bo5b2o$bo2bob3o2b4o$b2obo4bobo2bo$2bobobob2o
2bo$bo2bobo3bob2o$bobobobobo2bo2bo$2obo2bo3bo3b2o$3bo$3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
This is even smaller, 11x16 with population 54:Extrementhusiast wrote:This variant is one cell smaller in bounding box, but one cell larger in total population:Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$6bo3bo2bo$4b5o2b2o$3bo5b2o$bo2bob3o2b4o$b2obo4bobo2bo$2bobobob2o 2bo$bo2bobo3bob2o$bobobobobo2bo2bo$2obo2bo3bo3b2o$3bo$3b2o!
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x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2b2o3bob2o$2bo2b3obobo$3b2o6bo$6b3o2bob2o$3b2o4bobo2bo$2bobobob2o2bo$b
o2bobo3bob2o$bobobobobo2bo2bo$2obo2bo3bo3b2o$3bo$3b2o!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
This is somewhat pedestrian as oscillators go, but it's much smaller than the previous record:
The lowerleft and upperright blocks are there for suppression; one of them could probably be replaced by something more complex to make it into a p87 gun. The previous smallest gun and oscillator of this period seem to be variants of this, from the VariableSpeed Firing Squad thread:
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x = 37, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14b3o$17bo$16b2o2$24b2o$24b2o8b2o$34b2o$20bo$19bobo$18bo2bo$19b2o
2$4bo$3bobo$4bo2$9bo$9b2o15b2o$2o3bo5bo15bobo$2o4b3o19b3o4b2o$7bobo15b
o5bo3b2o$9b2o15b2o$27bo2$32bo$31bobo$32bo2$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bobo$16bo$b
2o$b2o8b2o$11b2o2$19b2o$19bo$20b3o$22bo!
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x = 70, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$30bobo$32bo4b2o$28b4ob2o2bo2bo$28bo4bobobob2o$31bo3bobo$31bo5bo$
35b2o$31bobo$22b2o7bo$23bo7b2o2bo$23bobo$24b2o7bo3bo$33bo4bo$36b3o3$
50bo$50b3o$34b2o17bo$34bo17bobo$35b3o14bobo$37bo15bo5$55b3o10b2o$54bo
3bo9b2o$16bo36bo5bo$3b2o11b2o35bo5bo$4bo10bobo35b3ob3o$2bo45b2o$2b5o
14b2o24bobo$7bo13bo25bo$4b3o12bobo24b2o$3bo15b2o$3b4o$b2o3bo3b2o51b2ob
o$o2b3o4b2o51b2ob3o$2obo65bo$3bo59b2ob3o$3b2o57bo2b2o$61bobo$43bo16bob
ob2obo$11b2o30b3o8bo6bo2bob2o$12bo33bo6bo10bo$9b3o33b2o4bobo9b2o$9bo
43bo6bobo2b2o$50bobo7b2o2bo2bo$27b2o21bo14b2o$27bobo20bobo$27bo23b2o$
66b2o$66bo$64bobo$64b2o11$50b2o$50b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Not at all. In fact, I would go so far as to say it is one of the most clever and interesting oscillators to be discovered. The Pi > R > Pi reaction is unique, I think, in that it does not rely on any symmetry. The Pi and the R just happen to appear in exactly the right places. The solution to the conflicting block and eater is also very beautiful. It's lucky that there was even a working combination of two engines.Kazyan wrote:This is somewhat pedestrian as oscillators go
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
A 2p87 nonexhaustive byhand search found (left to right) a relatively large spark, 3 HF factories, a tooclose R output and a glider + junk with a little (read: almost certainly not enough) room for catalysis.
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x = 348, y = 87, rule = B3/S23
327b2o$313b2o12b2o$313b2o$333bo$332bobo$255b2o70b2o4bo$241b2o12b2o70bo
bo$241b2o84b3o$80b2o55b2o122bo$66b2o12b2o41b2o12b2o55b2o64bobo60b3o$
66b2o55b2o55b2o12b2o65bo61bo2bo$22b2o62bo56bo36b2o75bo54b2o$8b2o12b2o
61bobo54bobo55bo50bo4b2o54b2o10b3o$8b2o70b2o4bo50b2o4bo55bobo48bobo$
28bo51bobo56bo55bo4bo48b2obo93b2o$27bobo50b3o51bo4bo56bo53bob2o62b2o
28bo$28bo103b2o4bo51bo4b2o43b2o8bob4o59bo2bo25bobo$21b3o52b3o53b2o55bo
bo48b2o9bo3bo60bobo25b2o$23bo52bo2bo109b2o61b3o62bo19bo$19bo3bo41b2o
55b2o9b2ob2o51bobo61bo20b2o33b2o25bobo$18bo46b2o10b3o42b2o9b2ob2o41b2o
9b2ob2o49b2o28bo33bobo25bo2bo$18bo3bo112bo43b2o9bo3bo48bo2bo25bobo33bo
28b2o$7b2o10b3o77b2o55b2o33b3o50bobo25b2o33b2o$7b2o60b2o28bo26b2o28bo
56b2o30bo19bo$68bo2bo25bobo25bo2bo25bobo26b2o28bo23b2o25bobo61b3o10b2o
$41b2o26bobo25b2o27bobo25b2o26bo2bo25bobo22bobo25bo2bo73b2o$11b2o28bo
28bo19bo36bo19bo35bobo25b2o23bo28b2o61bo2bo$10bo2bo25bobo20b2o25bobo
27b2o25bobo35bo19bo30b2o20bo71b3o$11bobo25b2o20bobo25bo2bo25bobo25bo2b
o26b2o25bobo50b3o$12bo19bo28bo28b2o26bo28b2o26bobo25bo2bo48bo3bo9b2o
54b3o$4b2o25bobo26b2o55b2o56bo28b2o49b4obo8b2o54bobo$3bobo25bo2bo104bo
34b2o81b2obo60bo4b2o$3bo28b2o47b3o10b2o41b2ob2o9b2o42b3o60bob2o58bobo$
2b2o90b2o41b2ob2o9b2o41bo3bo9b2o48bobo60bo$81bo2bo109b2ob2o9b2o43b2o4b
o$36b2o44b3o56b2o54bobo53bo72b2o$23b3o10b2o98bo4b2o55b2o49bo76b2o$22bo
3bo51b3o54bo4bo56bobo48bobo$26bo51bobo54bo56b2o4bo50bo$21bo3bo48bo4b2o
50bo4b2o54bo$21bo51bobo54bobo55bo4bo60b2o68b2o$21b3o50bo56bo55bobo64b
2o68b2o$16bo171bo$15bobo61b2o55b2o181bo$16bo62b2o55b2o55b2o123bobo$
193b2o58b2o64bo$21b2o230b2o69b3o$21b2o54b2o54b2o189bo$77b2o16b2o36b2o
113bo75bo3bo$192b2o53bobo79bo$19b2o51bo55bo63b2o54bo4b2o70bo3bo$19b2o
16b2o32bobo53bobo122bo73b3o10b2o$72bo3b2o50bo4b2o52bo64bo4bo81b2o$14bo
63bo53bobo51bobo64bo4b2o$13bobo60b3o53b3o52bo4b2o64b2o45b2o$14bo3b2o
58bo2bo109bo114bo28b2o$20bo57bo3bo53b3o52bo4bo57b2ob2o9b2o36bobo25bo2b
o$18b3o58bobo53bo2bo53bo4b2o55b2ob2o9b2o37b2o25bobo$20bo2bo56bo11b2o
54b2o47b2o57bo58bo19bo$20bo3bo67b2o41b3o10b2o84b2o78bobo25b2o$21bobo
169b2ob2o9b2o26bo28b2o47bo2bo25bobo$22bo11b2o22b2o54b2o77b2ob2o9b2o26b
obo25bo2bo47b2o28bo$34b2o23bo28b2o25bo28b2o49bo40b2o25bobo78b2o$59bobo
25bo2bo24bobo25bo2bo26b2o69bo19bo$2o58b2o25bobo26b2o25bobo28bo28b2o38b
obo25b2o37b2o$bo28b2o36bo19bo35bo19bo29bobo25bo2bo36bo2bo25bobo36b2o
10b3o$bobo25bo2bo34bobo25b2o26bobo25b2o22b2o25bobo38b2o28bo47bo3bo$2b
2o25bobo34bo2bo25bobo24bo2bo25bobo29bo19bo69b2o46bo$10bo19bo36b2o28bo
25b2o28bo28bobo25b2o40bo69bo3bo$9bobo25b2o58b2o54b2o26bo2bo25bobo26b2o
9b2ob2o71bo$8bo2bo25bobo142b2o28bo26b2o9b2ob2o69b3o$9b2o28bo23b2o54b2o
10b3o78b2o117bo$39b2o22b2o11bo42b2o70bo57b2o79bobo$75bobo52bo2bo44b2o
9b2ob2o55b2o4bo75bo$5b2o67bo3bo51b3o45b2o9b2ob2o57bo4bo54b2o$5b2o11bo
56bo2bo177bo54b2o12b2o$17bobo58b3o53b3o51b2o64b2o4bo64b2o$16bo3bo57bo
55bobo51b2o4bo64bobo$17bo2bo58b2o3bo49b2o4bo49bo4bo64bo$20b3o60bobo53b
obo53bo44b2o$20bo63bo55bo52b2o4bo40b2o12b2o$21b2o3bo37b2o54b2o76bobo
53b2o$25bobo36b2o12b2o40b2o12b2o63bo$26bo51b2o54b2o43b2o$6b2o171b2o12b
2o$6b2o12b2o171b2o$20b2o!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Well, when you put it that way, thanks!Sokwe wrote:Not at all. In fact, I would go so far as to say it is one of the most clever and interesting oscillators to be discovered. The Pi > R > Pi reaction is unique, I think, in that it does not rely on any symmetry. The Pi and the R just happen to appear in exactly the right places. The solution to the conflicting block and eater is also very beautiful. It's lucky that there was even a working combination of two engines.
Nice. Let's skip forward: Apparently the eaters near the loaves just suppress Bheptomino precursors that otherwise just unsalvageably ruin everythingit wasn't clear from the CatForce result. These can be fiddled into Pi precursors instead, and then taking some inspiration from the p45 gun...it's easier to just post this:BlinkerSpawn wrote:A 2p87 nonexhaustive byhand search found (left to right) a relatively large spark, 3 HF factories, a tooclose R output and a glider + junk with a little (read: almost certainly not enough) room for catalysis.Code: Select all
RLE
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x = 77, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
52bo$52b3o$55bo$54bo$54bo3bo$58bo3b2o$54bo7b2o8b2o$72b2o$60bo$54bo4bo
15bo$56b3o17bo$76bo$20b2o$6b2o3b3o6b2o20bo31bo$6b2o3bobo27bobo29b2o$
10bo15bo15bo29bo$10bo4b2o8bobo$13bob2o9bo38bo$9bo3b3o5b2o21b2o17bobo$
8bo2bo9b2o15b2o4b2o17b3o$8bo4b2o23b2o33b2o$9bobob2o32b3o17b2o4b2o$12bo
bo32bobo17b2o$13b3o31bo$13bobo$8b2o4b2o16b2o6bo29bo$7bo2bo21b2o4b2o29b
obo$6b2obo28bo31bo$7bo17b2o$7bobo14bob2o8bobo$8b2o21b2o5b2o14b3o$2b2o
9b2obo14bobo3b3o13bo4bo$bobo10b2o17bo18bo$bo29bob2o$2o28bo2bo15b2o7bo$
25b2o4b2o16b2o3bo$25bobo26bo3bo$25b3o30bo$26bobo28bo$26b2obobo26b3o$
26b2o4bo27bo$18b2o9bo2bo$18b2o5b3o3bo$14bo9b2obo$13bobo8b2o4bo$14bo15b
o$27bobo3b2o$19b2o6b3o3b2o$19b2o33bo$55bo$o52b3o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Congratulations! Here is a 34glider synthesis. It might possibly be done a bit more cheaply by making the Rpentomino or LOM phases, but none of the configurations I tried worked.Kayzan wrote:This is somewhat pedestrian as oscillators go, but it's much smaller than the previous record: ...
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x = 277, y = 170, rule = B3/S23
106bobo45bo49bo49bo$106boo46b3o47b3o47b3o$107bo49bo49bo49bo$156boo48b
oo48boo$108b3o$108bo$109bo$$213bo46bo$212bo46bobo$209boob3o43bobbo$
208bobo48boo$210bo16$206bo$206bobo47boo$202b3oboo47bobbo$204bo50bobo$
203bo52bo$$107bo$108bo$106b3o$159boo48boo48boo$109bo49bo49bo49bo$109b
oo49b3o47b3o47b3o$108bobo51bo49bo49bo20$14bo39bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$14b3o
37b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o$17bo39bo49bo49bo37bo11bo49bo$16boo38boo48boo
48boo35bobo10boo48boo$194boo$$195bo49boo$195boo47bobbo$20bo39bo49bo49b
o33bobo13bo33bobbo12bo$19bobo37bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo33boo12bobo$18bo
bbo36bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo$19boo38boo48boo48boo48boo48boo
$$27bo$27bobo27boo48boo48boo48boo48boo$18boo7boo27bobbo46bobbo17bo28bo
bbo46bobbo46bobbo$11bo6bobo36boo48boo17bo30boo48boo48boo$9bobo6bo103b
oobb3o38boo48boo48boo$10boo3boo71bo33bobo21boo19boo27boo19boo27boo19b
oo$14bobo69bobo33bo23boo48boo48boo$16bo70boo39boo$94bo33bobo38boo48boo
48boo$92bobo33bo19boo19boo27boo19boo27boo19boo$88b3obboo53boo48boo48b
oo$58boo30bo17boo48boo48boo48boo$57bobbo28bo17bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bo
bbo$58boo48boo48boo48boo48boo3$16boo38boo48boo48boo48boo48boo$15bobbo
36bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo$15bobo37bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bo
bo12boo$16bo39bo49bo49bo49bo13bobo33bo12bobbo$220boo47bobbo$221bo48boo
$$221boo$19boo38boo48boo48boo48boo10bobo35boo$19bo39bo49bo49bo49bo11bo
37bo$20b3o37b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o$22bo39bo49bo49bo49bo49bo11$211bo$
212boo$211boo$236bo$234boo$235boo4$14bo39bo49bo7bo41bo49bo49bo$14b3o
37b3o47b3o6bo40b3o47b3o47b3o$17bo39bo49bo3b3o43bo49bo20bo28bo$16boo38b
oo48boo7bo40boo48boo19bo28boo$114bo112b3o$114b3o47boo48boo48boo$5boo
157boo48boo48boo8boo$4bobbo266boo$o3bobbo12bo39bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$boo
bboo12bobo37bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$oo16bobbo36bobbo46bobbo46bobb
o46bobbo46bobbo$19boo38boo48boo48boo48boo48boo$$44bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$
17boo24bobo11boo34bobo11boo34bobo11boo34bobo11boo34bobo$16bobbo24bo11b
obbo34bo11bobbo34bo11bobbo34bo11bobbo34bo$17boo38boo28bo19boo48boo48b
oo$27boo38boo16bobo29boo48boo48boo30bo$6boo19boo17boo19boo17boo8boo19b
oo27boo19boo27boo19boo30boo15boo$6boo38boo41boo5boo28bo13boo4boo42boo
4boo42boo3bo5bo15bobo$88bobo35bobo11boo33boo13boo33boo13boo4b3o19b3o4b
oo$29boo38boo19bo28boo5boo41boo4boo42boo4boo20bobo15bo5bo3boo$8boo19b
oo17boo19boo27boo19boo8boo17boo19boo27boo19boo28boo15boo$8boo38boo48b
oo29bobo16boo48boo67bo$18boo38boo48boo19bo28boo48boo$17bobbo36bobbo11b
o34bobbo11bo34bobbo11bo34bobbo11bo49bo$18boo38boo11bobo34boo11bobo34b
oo11bobo34boo11bobo47bobo$72bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$$16boo38boo48boo48boo
48boo48boo$15bobbo16boo18bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo46bobbo$15bobo12boo
bboo19bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$16bo12bobbo3bo19bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$
29bobbo208boo$30boo119boo48boo38boo8boo$100b3o48boo48boo48boo$102bo84b
3o$19boo80bo7boo78bo19boo48boo$19bo83b3o3bo78bo20bo49bo$20b3o80bo6b3o
97b3o47b3o$22bo81bo7bo99bo49bo4$180boo$181boo$180bo$204boo$203boo$205b
o!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Logged in just to say congrats! Wow! The two conduits were pretty miraculous (encountered by dedicated search and the ability to recognize it, by the way) but I can see a nontrivial job done there. I guess you've rubbed one half of that with a p3?
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Has anyone seen this fairly small period 8 oscillator before?:
It has a couple of sparks, but at first glance they don't seem to be good for anything that can't already be done by known p8 oscillators. E.g. here it deletes half of a p20 glider stream, in the same way that a blocker can:
This showed up in a drifter search; here it's created, with a larger stator, from a glider hitting a still life:
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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo2bo$4b2obo$7bo$2b6o$2bo3bo3b2o$3bo6bobo$3o4bo4bo$o11b2o!
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x = 32, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo2bo$4b2obo$7bo6b3o$2b6o6bo$2bo3bo3b2o3bo$3bo6bobo$3o4bo4bo$o
11b2o5b3o$19bo$20bo3$24b3o$24bo$25bo3$29b3o$29bo$30bo!
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x = 14, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
11bo$bo9bobo$b3o7b2o$4bo$3bo$3b2o2b2o$o5bobo$5obo$4bob2o2b2o$2b2o6bobo
$2bo9bo$obo9b2o$2o!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
Does drifter work with nontotalistic rules and/or exploding rules?Dean Hickerson wrote:This showed up in a drifter search; here it's created, with a larger stator, from a glider hitting a still life:
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x = 14, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 11bo$bo9bobo$b3o7b2o$4bo$3bo$3b2o2b2o$o5bobo$5obo$4bob2o2b2o$2b2o6bobo $2bo9bo$obo9b2o$2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
In its current form, the program only works for totalistic rules and for David Bell's "Just Friends" rule, which is like B2/S12 except that birth only occurs if the 2 parents are not orthogonally adjacent. To handle other nontotalistic rules (with a 3x3 neighborhood), I think that you just need to modify the "nxgen" function appropriately. (But I wrote the program almost 20 years ago, so I don't remember all the details of how it works; it's possible that there are other things that would need to be changed.)drc wrote:Does drifter work with nontotalistic rules and/or exploding rules?
What do you mean by "exploding rules"? The program should work fine for rules like B2/S2345, which tend to expand in all directions, but leave behind mostly stable stuff. Any oscillators that it finds would work within that stuff, but there's no guarantee that a finite stator would exist.
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
I found a p4:
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x = 29, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$2bo11bo$2b3o6b2obo$5bo4bo2bo$4b2o4b3o2$6b3o4b2o$5bo2bo4bo$4bob2o
6b3o$4bo11bo$3b2o3$9b2o4b2o9b2o$9bo6bo9bo$6b2obo6bob2o3b2obo$2b2obo2bo
8bo2bobo2bo$o2bob3o10b3ob3o$2obo$3bo4b2o6b2o7b2o$3b2o3bo8bo7bo$9b3o2b
3o9b3o$11bo2bo13bo!
Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread
This p10 can be useful?
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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2b2o2bo2b2o$2bo7bo$3b2o3b2o$o5bo5bo$6ob6o$4bo3bo$2b2o5b2o$2bo7bo$3bo5b
o$2b2o5b2o!