Thread for your script-related questions

[dvgrn]

If I write my own search program, can I add it to the LifeWiki search programs page?

That would be pretty clearly against the LifeWiki:Notability#General_notability_guideline (now that I've just added "programs" to the list of things that inventors shouldn't be adding to the LifeWiki!). But someone else could do it, if the program proved to be useful for finding something new and interesting.

Most likely the program would just get mentioned and linked in the article describing the Something New And Interesting, though.

[wwei23]

So I was forced to reboot my PC after text rendering gave up (Example: Blank right-click menus). Why are all my golly settings wiped? >:(

[dvgrn]

So I was forced to reboot my PC after text rendering gave up (Example: Blank right-click menus). Why are all my golly settings wiped? >:(

You can always make a backup copy of your GollyPrefs file. Golly settings that were set during the current Golly session will not be saved if Golly isn't closed properly before rebooting. Older settings shouldn't be affected unless the GollyPrefs file is damaged.

[wwei23]

Older settings shouldn't be affected unless the GollyPrefs file is damaged.

Some of these settings were set back in 2017, and were wiped too.

[dvgrn]

Older settings shouldn't be affected unless the GollyPrefs file is damaged.

Some of these settings were set back in 2017, and were wiped too.

Therefore your GollyPrefs file was damaged or removed. Go find your GollyPrefs file and see what happened to it.

Then, when you've set all your settings the way you want it, email a copy of your GollyPrefs file to yourself, so that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.

[GUYTU6J]

How do I use git to download the octohash database only?
This does not work:

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$ git clone https://github.com/dvgrn/b3s23life/tree/master/12x12-1G-octohash.git
正克隆到 '12x12-1G-octohash'...
fatal: repository 'https://github.com/dvgrn/b3s23life/tree/master/12x12-1G-octohash.git/' not found

[wildmyron]

How do I use git to download the octohash database only?
This does not work:

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$ git clone https://github.com/dvgrn/b3s23life/tree/master/12x12-1G-octohash.git
正克隆到 '12x12-1G-octohash'...
fatal: repository 'https://github.com/dvgrn/b3s23life/tree/master/12x12-1G-octohash.git/' not found

This is not really something git was originally designed for, but apparently it is possible.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/52269934 has more information than you'll ever want to know.

[dvgrn]

How do I use git to download the octohash database only?

This is not really something git was originally designed for, but apparently it is possible.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/52269934 has more information than you'll ever want to know.

That's a really good question, and a really good answer.

An even better answer is that the octohash database doesn't belong in the b3s23life repository in the first place. I've moved it to a separate octohash repository. Will probably add more subfolder eventually, whenever I or someone gets around to rebuilding the 3G database in octohash form.

[GUYTU6J]

Thanks, So now it works like

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$ git clone https://github.com/dvgrn/octohash.git
Cloning into 'octohash'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 7, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (7/7), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (7/7), done.
Unpacking objects: 13% (5/36)

And from this on I didn't see any obvious changes anywhere, and I pressed ctrl+c. Is it stuck, or just downloading terribly slowly? Any speed estimations?
(I guess after solving these issues we can go and expand tutorials/glider_sythesis)

[dvgrn]

Thanks, So now it works like

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$ git clone https://github.com/dvgrn/octohash.git
Cloning into 'octohash'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 7, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (7/7), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (7/7), done.
Unpacking objects: 13% (5/36)

And from this on I didn't see any obvious changes anywhere, and I pressed ctrl+c.

Yeah, that could be healthy, depending on your Internet speed. I'd advise _not_ cloning that database if you can help it -- try downloading the ZIP file instead, as the README says -- and let me know if that doesn't work. The option is under the Code button > Download ZIP.

The reason to not clone the repository is that then you get all the repository history brought over to your local machine... which includes the larger deleted version of the octohash database with the lifelib dependency. When git is transferring all that information, it probably doesn't update its processing status very well, because it isn't actually downloading any (currently visible) files.

Downloading just a ZIP file avoids that problem. I'm testing that method out right now, and it looks like it will be done in a maybe ten or fifteen minutes. It comes out to 597,604KB.

[wildmyron]

It's also possible to use git clone to just get what's currently in the repo. This is called a shallow clone.

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git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/dvgrn/octohash.git

Then if further octohash files are added to the repo it should be possible to fetch just those new files with the usual "git pull".
If you make local changes that interact with old history then that can cause problems, but that seems pretty unlikely in this case.

This method is possibly well suited to the current b3s23life repo which now contains all of the history of creating and deleting those octohash files

@dvgrn perhaps you'd consider a bit of history rewriting to expunge all those now deleted large files from the b3s23life repo's history. That doesn't come without some risk and potential issues for collaborators (just simsim314 and myself) but I think it would be worth it.

Two relevant SO questions with very helpful answers:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/210 ... repository
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/106 ... it-history
But you'll probably want to have a look at some official documentation too. On the plus side, if something stuffs up you can always check out the current repo again (up until you've force pushed the changes that remove the history! )

[dvgrn]

@dvgrn perhaps you'd consider a bit of history rewriting to expunge all those now deleted large files from the b3s23life repo's history. That doesn't come without some risk and potential issues for collaborators (just simsim314 and myself) but I think it would be worth it.

Potential issues is right. I knew that removing those files from the repository history would be the Right Thing To Do, so I had already done some investigation. My first conclusion was that really understanding everything about the process well enough to be able to fix whatever errors would probably come up, was a matter of days or weeks, not just hours.

However, with your message to push me in the direction of virtuous Git repo maintenance behavior, I tried this -- just experimentally removing one of the twenty files I need to remove:

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greedd@L2116LT /cygdrive/c/repos/b3s23life
$ git filter-branch --tree-filter 'rm -f 12x12-1G-octohash/octohashes2obj2x12b_0.txt' HEAD
WARNING: git-filter-branch has a glut of gotchas generating mangled history
         rewrites.  Hit Ctrl-C before proceeding to abort, then use an
         alternative filtering tool such as 'git filter-repo'
         (https://github.com/newren/git-filter-repo/) instead.  See the
         filter-branch manual page for more details; to squelch this warning,
         set FILTER_BRANCH_SQUELCH_WARNING=1.
Proceeding with filter-branch...

Rewrite ff254e9eacc61d3aca0461be082511949c489d24 (1/182) (0 seconds passed, remaRewrite f9928b58b956f36d5dfdd0c1b71adbd4c55ada3e (2/182) (1 seconds passed, remaRewrite fffcf31378c075157bbecf3054f2fd0071b3878b (2/182) (1 seconds passed, remaRewrite 4325b8790dbd56be93d0200331b4d31799d4e2e6 (2/182) (1 seconds passed, remaRewrite d45f8738248f35af7b1e7c4be7095642f00b7ecd (5/182) (4 seconds passed, remaRewrite 98c58b969185bebf558ed66adf0c044ec7dded4e (5/182) (4 seconds passed, remaRewrite bb3aa027b1d0eeddb7efbb70bd34acbcd7513ec3 (7/182) (6 seconds passed, remaRewrite 89a00cc2c1defe88fc6ea8c6989e345984f8d9df (7/182) (6 seconds passed, remaRewrite cb04a667f7d437eccde37442a27e9729312cc08d (9/182) (8 seconds passed, remaRewrite 9fdb0955e066cf94c5e744b69709c7ef15aa8441 (9/182) (8 seconds passed, remaRewrite 0b6aea5ac0e8b40a64f7a076837fcdd29e80c550 (11/182) (11 seconds passed, reRewrite f5bf5e927b93474ec51bf085bbbb7a78460bdc05 (11/182) (11 seconds passed, reRewrite 333802772171f14cc20ab1963ca724d9d48608b9 (13/182) (13 seconds passed, reRewrite 1f08ecde1d9e6167753dc5dbcdb8c8b30fec4767 (13/182) (13 seconds passed, reRewrite 0e78aa60b65367163dad3cf0e17bf86c872beada (15/182) (15 seconds passed, reRewrite 8de31185324f5c568eaed332c7b4d191699b6e09 (15/182) (15 seconds passed, reRewrite 5e8df6e6a6d19798c8f17f5db04bbfadb1ae3c62 (17/182) (18 seconds passed, reRewrite 9f4d8c5c103e71d19bd4a4067fe8295078bbc01c (18/182) (19 seconds passed, reRewrite 71eac3a65d8068476cd165d72f5817189772c24c (19/182) (21 seconds passed, reRewrite 5989f28fd8513c6990ddeea0aa49be9dd47918e0 (20/182) (22 seconds passed, reRewrite d864b6e0c203d6bd6a65450b8832e4abc80139f6 (21/182) (24 seconds passed, reRewrite 908d0ae693d411e46ce2b6bc109dd1eac0898020 (22/182) (26 seconds passed, reRewrite b42922635f1c10c2541c4e8f1c24659184bb1358 (23/182) (27 seconds passed, reRewrite f044d1fabbef29bc211779c893e04a8cf4623244 (24/182) (28 seconds passed, reRewrite c5620ad3e31a3cce4f2397555014eb735df2c652 (25/182) (29 seconds passed, reRewrite 0c0351d801d42f8da473a3679320c948eb46f516 (26/182) (31 seconds passed, reRewrite bd72cc13c5c65d592ef4f54cd5f170eac7afda43 (27/182) (32 seconds passed, reRewrite fa387ca6348726c1f4d7f8edddd301b5e78b9c2f (28/182) (33 seconds passed, reRewrite 774c70f675b75c29ae8b1c7963b472b5eabfaa35 (29/182) (34 seconds passed, reRewrite b11e6044c51f33ffca8b3e515199fe31eb68a1d4 (30/182) (35 seconds passed, reRewrite 7e8932b42858f14a785982c98a8d0d6a87b66158 (31/182) (37 seconds passed, reRewrite 14f2375d906459ae4fa9b9e297ae1e2dd23d6b82 (32/182) (38 seconds passed, reRewrite b84e80d2a205f02d7ee0e9c6394d05c860498640 (33/182) (39 seconds passed, reRewrite b055874a82e55f49eaf08adaa657ba4cb346fc51 (34/182) (40 seconds passed, reRewrite 2618f76e7e8fb3d7e4f1fc15f552bf6044a6c18b (35/182) (41 seconds passed, reRewrite 6eabf6e7e8bfba7475e787009b5803cc713f6d3a (36/182) (42 seconds passed, reRewrite 464197ff6b0573b9452124a8ef6fdcd7a95768ef (37/182) (43 seconds passed, reRewrite f2e3faa13498579e7522ada94864313496686b12 (38/182) (45 seconds passed, reRewrite 8796af7ebc73572850d093292460ecaf528fa1d5 (39/182) (46 seconds passed, remaining 168 predicted)    error: unable to create file glider-gun-builder/zip/template/specialcases/C:\Users\greedd\Desktop\glider_guns-master (3)\zip\template\specialcases\p00356x5_0_special_p00890,0,0,0.rle: No such file or directory
Could not checkout the index

It started out not looking too bad, but then stopped in the middle, so I have no idea now what the actual state of the repo is. 'git status' says everything is up to date.

Next I might just try re-cloning the repo and see if I can operate on a totally fresh copy any better. Also might look into using the suggested https://github.com/newren/git-filter-repo/.

[wwei23]

Why does ntzfind freeze my PC?

[wildmyron]

Why does ntzfind freeze my PC?

If you search at widths higher than 10, then ntzfind uses lots of RAM (I can't remember the exact numbers but it's around 3.5G for w 10 and each increase by 1 to the width requires about 2.5 times more RAM). If you run out of RAM on your system then it will appear to freeze while it thrashes about trying to free up a bit of space until ultimately ntzfind crashes.

[wwei23]

How do I use ikpx2_stdin?

[Moosey]

How do I use ikpx2_stdin?

Just do ./ikpx -v velocity -k key -n number of soups

[googoIpIex]

I'm trying to get the old helix program https://github.com/codeholic/helix/blob/master/helix.pl to work, but when i try to run it i get this:

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C:\Strawberry>perl helix.pl 156 7 34
n=1
DBD::SQLite::db prepare failed: no such table: pattern at helix.pl line 133.
Can't call method "execute" on an undefined value at helix.pl line 134.

[otismo]

I just made a Loafer BitMap Ticker Printer posted at C7 Construction Site in Patterns

the bits in ROM ( Loafers )

correspond to the pixels in the BitMap ( Loafers )

so a script to load the empty ROM should be trivial for all you script mavens

please help us from having to paste all those strings into ROM -

Thank You !

Cheers !

[dvgrn]

@dvgrn perhaps you'd consider a bit of history rewriting to expunge all those now deleted large files from the b3s23life repo's history. That doesn't come without some risk and potential issues for collaborators (just simsim314 and myself) but I think it would be worth it.

FYI, for whom it may concern: I tried following half a dozen different sets of instructions to remove the large deleted files from dvgrn/b3s23life repo history, to get back to where it would be reasonable to clone the repository again.

The first several things I tried failed with mysterious errors that the instructions didn't mention.

The next couple of things I tried didn't give errors, but also failed to reduce my local .git folder to 110MB. It stayed stubbornly at 1.36GB or thereabouts.

Eventually I had overspent my time budget for this project by about a factor of ten, so I moved on to the emergency option that I knew would be quick and easy. The b3s23life repo has now been re-created from scratch, minus all of its checkin history. I've also moved a fair number of little-used larger files out of the repo, so it's down to 10MB instead of 110MB. I'll check these files back in to separate repositories when I get around to it, but probably no one will miss them anyway.

Anyone who currently has a clone of dvgrn/b3s23life should please consider deleting it and re-cloning from GitHub -- it won't take nearly as long now!

[wwei23]

Any ntzfind-like oscillator searchers? After completing the P9 heavyweight emulator, bismuth asked for P10. I didn't realize it was a joke, so now we have these two frontends...

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x = 38, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
5b2o16b2o8b2o$4b4o15bo2bo4bo2bo$3bo4bo15b2o6b2o$4b4o19b4o$5b2o15b5o4b
5o$o10bo10bo2bob4obo2bo$2bobo2bobo13bo4b2o4bo$2b2ob2ob2o10b3o12b3o$bo
8bo9bo6bo2bo6bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo$25bo6bo2$24b2o6b2o!

[otismo]

@dvgrn perhaps you'd consider a bit of history rewriting to expunge all those now deleted large files from the b3s23life repo's history. That doesn't come without some risk and potential issues for collaborators (just simsim314 and myself) but I think it would be worth it.

FYI, for whom it may concern: I tried following half a dozen different sets of instructions to remove the large deleted files from dvgrn/b3s23life repo history, to get back to where it would be reasonable to clone the repository again.

The first several things I tried failed with mysterious errors that the instructions didn't mention.

The next couple of things I tried didn't give errors, but also failed to reduce my local .git folder to 110MB. It stayed stubbornly at 1.36GB or thereabouts.

Eventually I had overspent my time budget for this project by about a factor of ten, so I moved on to the emergency option that I knew would be quick and easy. The b3s23life repo has now been re-created from scratch, minus all of its checkin history. I've also moved a fair number of little-used larger files out of the repo, so it's down to 10MB instead of 110MB. I'll check these files back in to separate repositories when I get around to it, but probably no one will miss them anyway.

Anyone who currently has a clone of dvgrn/b3s23life should please consider deleting it and re-cloning from GitHub -- it won't take nearly as long now!

I am already missing all the deleted files.

Since I somehow have the notion that I will have All Eternity to sort it all out, and be a proper Archival Curator

I have been asking ( the wind ? ) for the TerraBhyte TarBall - I want it ALL - going insane grabbing all the little its 'n bits -

@ dvgrn - now I do know of all your time and effort expended in the field of CGoL ( new UC multi-diagonal style 2E CorderShip State-of-the-Art )

BUT

I DO NOT WANT YOU TO DELETE ANYTHING ( patterns and scripts - love letters IDC )

so hey, how about I send you a super huge USB flash drive and the next time you get the urge to delete...

( or I could PayPal you cash - does $200.00 sound about right to you ? )

and a standing request to everybody else - I WANT EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT !

this is a hedge against a DoomsDay Scenario - I am very well hedged...

Thank You for Your Interest !

Cheers !

[dvgrn]

I DO NOT WANT YOU TO DELETE ANYTHING ( patterns and scripts - love letters IDC )

so hey, how about I send you a super huge USB flash drive and the next time you get the urge to delete...

No need for a flash-drive solution, I think. The old b3s23life repository is still available temporarily under the name b3s23life_old. I wouldn't advise messing around with that repo any more, though, at least unless you read up first on doing a "shallow clone" with git -- get the content but not all the history.

I believe I've also checked in all the content that I removed from the new b3s23life, into separate repositories. The only two relevant ones are

https://github.com/dvgrn/conwaylife-data
https://github.com/dvgrn/glider-collisions

(and those aren't terribly relevant, except you might like the all-extracted-patterns file -- a 7Zip archive of every pattern posted to the forums up until last December 15th.)

I'll be removing the b3s23life_old repo eventually, but I'm not in any particular hurry about it.

[otismo]

Thank You for All the Links !

Now I just need to get that flashdrive

OR

my super Black Friday upgrade ( and this machine becomes a ChromeBook ).

Cheers !

[yujh]

Is there a script for sorting ships for 5s(so in sss formay)?(Including deleting some ships)

[bubblegum]

I usually avoid the Scripts subforum (this is way out of my area), but I need to know what part of Cygwin lifelib.add_cygdir()'s requesting (the bin folder or?), or I could install Cygwin again but seriously?

(Alternatively, could somebody tell me how to install Debian without a USB or DVD?)