I agree on e being /ɛ/, but I disagree even more with a being /ɒ/ than a being /a/. Me and Hunting say it should be /ɐ/.
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I propose a phonological and orthographic reform.
In the first row are letters, second sounds and third old versions of orthography if they exist.
A /a/
Æ /æ/ ae
Ao /ɐ/
B /b/
C /ts/
Č /ɕ(our Č,not sure)/ch
D /d/
E /e/
F /f/
G /g/
H /h/
I /i/
J /j/
Ĵ /dʒ/(i could not get any other sign for the top,the sign pointing to the bottom should be actually used)
K /k/
L /l/
M /m/
N /n/
O /o/
P /p/
R /r/
S /s/
Š /ʂ/ sh
T /t/
Ť /tʃ/
U /u/
V /v/
Z /z/
Ž /ʐ/ zh
Do you accept?
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In the first row are letters, second sounds and third old versions of orthography if they exist.
A /a/
Æ /æ/ ae
Ao /ɐ/
B /b/
C /ts/
Č /ɕ(our Č,not sure)/ch
D /d/
E /e/
F /f/
G /g/
H /h/
I /i/
J /j/
Ĵ /dʒ/(i could not get any other sign for the top,the sign pointing to the bottom should be actually used)
K /k/
L /l/
M /m/
N /n/
O /o/
P /p/
R /r/
S /s/
Š /ʂ/ sh
T /t/
Ť /tʃ/
U /u/
V /v/
Z /z/
Ž /ʐ/ zh
Do you accept?
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I'm not going to comment on the sounds, that's for another time. I myself had actually proposed diacritics, but others had said that it would be tedious to type. You would have to constantly copy-paste. I think they're right. Please find new non-diacritic symbols and then we'll talk about the sounds.BokaBB wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:22 amI propose a phonological and orthographic reform.
In the first row are letters, second sounds and third old versions of orthography if they exist.
A /a/
Æ /æ/ ae
Ao /ɐ/
B /b/
C /ts/
Č /ɕ(our Č,not sure)/ch
D /d/
E /e/
F /f/
G /g/
H /h/
I /i/
J /j/
Ĵ /dʒ/(i could not get any other sign for the top,the sign pointing to the bottom should be actually used)
K /k/
L /l/
M /m/
N /n/
O /o/
P /p/
R /r/
S /s/
Š /ʂ/ sh
T /t/
Ť /tʃ/
U /u/
V /v/
Z /z/
Ž /ʐ/ zh
Do you accept?
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My proposal for the number system.
Ak - 1
Tok - 2
Fe - 3
Zu - 4
Če - 5
Mo - 6
Æk - 7(if my reform fails,then it will be aek)
Ťem - 8(if my reform fails,then it will be tem)
Si - 9
Nu - 10
Nu ak - 11
Nu æk - 17
Toknu - 20
Sinu zu - 94
Nunu - 100
Zununu ťemnu mo - 486
Be - 1000
Nube - 10000
Bebe - million
Bebebe - billion
Bebebebe - trillion
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Ak - 1
Tok - 2
Fe - 3
Zu - 4
Če - 5
Mo - 6
Æk - 7(if my reform fails,then it will be aek)
Ťem - 8(if my reform fails,then it will be tem)
Si - 9
Nu - 10
Nu ak - 11
Nu æk - 17
Toknu - 20
Sinu zu - 94
Nunu - 100
Zununu ťemnu mo - 486
Be - 1000
Nube - 10000
Bebe - million
Bebebe - billion
Bebebebe - trillion
Have a good day!
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I like the words, let's keep them, though I had said near the very start of this thread that the language shouldn't be base-10. I think base-8 or 12 would be good.BokaBB wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:38 amMy proposal for the number system.
Ak - 1
Tok - 2
Fe - 3
Zu - 4
Če - 5
Mo - 6
Æk - 7(if my reform fails,then it will be aek)
Ťem - 8(if my reform fails,then it will be tem)
Si - 9
Nu - 10
Nu ak - 11
Nu æk - 17
Toknu - 20
Sinu zu - 94
Nunu - 100
Zununu ťemnu mo - 486
Be - 1000
Nube - 10000
Bebe - million
Bebebe - billion
Bebebebe - trillion
Have a good day!
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It is natural since we have 10 fingers with which we counted.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:42 amI like the words, let's keep them, though I had said near the very start of this thread that the language shouldn't be base-10. I think base-8 or 12 would be good.BokaBB wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:38 amMy proposal for the number system.
Ak - 1
Tok - 2
Fe - 3
Zu - 4
Če - 5
Mo - 6
Æk - 7(if my reform fails,then it will be aek)
Ťem - 8(if my reform fails,then it will be tem)
Si - 9
Nu - 10
Nu ak - 11
Nu æk - 17
Toknu - 20
Sinu zu - 94
Nunu - 100
Zununu ťemnu mo - 486
Be - 1000
Nube - 10000
Bebe - million
Bebebe - billion
Bebebebe - trillion
Have a good day!
BokaBB
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Many languages use bases other than 10, the Babylonians used base-60, the Mayan and Aztec civilizations used base-20. Please watch this video if you have time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4bmZ1gRqCcBokaBB wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:45 amIt is natural since we have 10 fingers with which we counted.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2020, 11:42 amI like the words, let's keep them, though I had said near the very start of this thread that the language shouldn't be base-10. I think base-8 or 12 would be good.
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Do you know that diacritics are easier on phone?If you can, please install the application Gboard, since they have tons of keyboards.
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I'll think about it. I prefer the computer but if diacritics are needed I can use my phone maybe. Did you watch the video?
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I agree on E, but A should be /6/. As I stated before, AA is /a/, EE is /e/.
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May I ask something? Where are we all getting our sounds from? I mean, for example, I use the Wikipedia page for learning the sounds of a symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
What do you use? I just want to be sure we all agree on the sounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
What do you use? I just want to be sure we all agree on the sounds.
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Me too.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 1:16 amMay I ask something? Where are we all getting our sounds from? I mean, for example, I use the Wikipedia page for learning the sounds of a symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
What do you use? I just want to be sure we all agree on the sounds.
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Thanks. It seems we're failing to reach an agreement on the sound that a makes. I really want /ɐ/ and /ɛ/ to be in the language. That's my only condition for now.Hunting wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 1:19 amMe too.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 1:16 amMay I ask something? Where are we all getting our sounds from? I mean, for example, I use the Wikipedia page for learning the sounds of a symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
What do you use? I just want to be sure we all agree on the sounds.
Note: Should I still use X-SAMPA for these symbols?
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If you don't want to you can use the Unicode symbols. But it's more convenient for me to use X-SAMPA as I remembered the whole table.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:08 amThanks. It seems we're failing to reach an agreement on the sound that a makes. I really want /ɐ/ and /ɛ/ to be in the language. That's my only condition for now.Hunting wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 1:19 amMe too.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 1:16 amMay I ask something? Where are we all getting our sounds from? I mean, for example, I use the Wikipedia page for learning the sounds of a symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
What do you use? I just want to be sure we all agree on the sounds.
Note: Should I still use X-SAMPA for these symbols?
Looks like we could use this convention and move on (no offense to our old friend BokaBB). What should the letter i be?
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i -> /I/
ii -> /i/
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BokaBB had said /ɐ/(/6/) can be aa and /ɛ/(/E/) can be ee, and a is /a/ and e is /e/. I kind of want the opposite to be true, the latter true sound longer to me (thus we should use double vowels) but if he insists, we can do what he wants. Though I think we should still vote on the sounds.
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I maybe can allow the first two,but a is /a/ and e /e/.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:18 amBokaBB had said /ɐ/(/6) can be aa and /ɛ/(/E/) can be ee, and a is /a/ and e is /e/. I kind of want the opposite to be true, the latter true sound longer to me (thus we should use double vowels) but if he insists, we can do what he wants. Though I think we should still vote on the sounds.
Also, i is /i/.
Schaparelio, think about your methods. My proposals are all more logical and better and you are just preventing us from advancing. Not agressive or something, just saying what are you doing.
Please accept my vowel proposals. I may change consonants,but we need broad concensus elsewhere.
Lightweight capitalising all letters in the word to signify something is allowed,but if someone is agressive and uses many ! or something at the end of all sentences (Hunting is like that and I also was in the earlier times) will be immediately banned from here for a week.
Second time he will be banned forever.
I was wanting for this to be a community work,but I am sometimes also subjective. I won't allow vowels to change (except digraphs and Æ),but I am open to digraphs and consonant changes.
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1)I have never seen Hunting do that.BokaBB wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:28 amI maybe can allow the first two,but a is /a/ and e /e/.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:18 amBokaBB had said /ɐ/(/6) can be aa and /ɛ/(/E/) can be ee, and a is /a/ and e is /e/. I kind of want the opposite to be true, the latter true sound longer to me (thus we should use double vowels) but if he insists, we can do what he wants. Though I think we should still vote on the sounds.
Also, i is /i/.
Schaparelio, think about your methods. My proposals are all more logical and better and you are just preventing us from advancing. Not agressive or something, just saying what are you doing.
Please accept my vowel proposals. I may change consonants,but we need broad concensus elsewhere.
Lightweight capitalising all letters in the word to signify something is allowed,but if someone is agressive and uses many ! or something at the end of all sentences (Hunting is like that and I also was in the earlier times) will be immediately banned from here for a week.
Second time he will be banned forever.
I was wanting for this to be a community work,but I am sometimes also subjective. I won't allow vowels to change (except digraphs and Æ),but I am open to digraphs and consonant changes.
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2)Your proposals can't be more logical or better than ours, it's all subjective. I can't say the same thing about ours either.
3) Can we reach a compromise where aa is /ɐ/(/6/), a is /a/, and i is /i/, like you said, but e is /ɛ/(/E/) and ee is /e/? That or we vote.
4) I'm going to ask this again: did you watch the video on number bases in languages?
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Okay. I accept the existence of the other e sound,but I want something other than two e - s to represent it,I don't like to have to same consecutive letters.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 3:01 am1)I have never seen Hunting do that.BokaBB wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:28 amI maybe can allow the first two,but a is /a/ and e /e/.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 2:18 amBokaBB had said /ɐ/(/6) can be aa and /ɛ/(/E/) can be ee, and a is /a/ and e is /e/. I kind of want the opposite to be true, the latter true sound longer to me (thus we should use double vowels) but if he insists, we can do what he wants. Though I think we should still vote on the sounds.
Also, i is /i/.
Schaparelio, think about your methods. My proposals are all more logical and better and you are just preventing us from advancing. Not agressive or something, just saying what are you doing.
Please accept my vowel proposals. I may change consonants,but we need broad concensus elsewhere.
Lightweight capitalising all letters in the word to signify something is allowed,but if someone is agressive and uses many ! or something at the end of all sentences (Hunting is like that and I also was in the earlier times) will be immediately banned from here for a week.
Second time he will be banned forever.
I was wanting for this to be a community work,but I am sometimes also subjective. I won't allow vowels to change (except digraphs and Æ),but I am open to digraphs and consonant changes.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
2)Your proposals can't be more logical or better than ours, it's all subjective. I can't say the same thing about ours either.
3) Can we reach a compromise where aa is /ɐ/(/6/), a is /a/, and i is /i/, like you said, but e is /ɛ/(/E/) and ee is /e/? That or we vote.
4) I'm going to ask this again: did you watch the video on number bases in languages?
Idea:orthography like what I posted is used in everyday writing,but is here everything written the old way.
Let's make phonotactics.
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You didn't answer all my questions. New question that I asked earlier: What do you use to learn the sounds of IPA symbols?BokaBB wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 3:46 amOkay. I accept the existence of the other e sound,but I want something other than two e - s to represent it,I don't like to have to same consecutive letters.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 3:01 am1)I have never seen Hunting do that.
2)Your proposals can't be more logical or better than ours, it's all subjective. I can't say the same thing about ours either.
3) Can we reach a compromise where aa is /ɐ/(/6/), a is /a/, and i is /i/, like you said, but e is /ɛ/(/E/) and ee is /e/? That or we vote.
4) I'm going to ask this again: did you watch the video on number bases in languages?
Idea:orthography like what I posted is used in everyday writing,but is here everything written the old way.
Let's make phonotactics.
You didn't met Hunting yet well.
Have a good day!
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Fact is, everyone agree with his proposal except you. So you are preventing us from advancing.
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Ban from here.
I read Wikipedia to know the sounds.
I am the founder of this and have rights to incorporate some parts of my ideas even if they are a minority view.
I already said how everything should be read when I said that everything will be phonetical.
Now phonotactics.
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You do not have the right to ban anyone. If you don't like these ideas, I could create an offshoot of this thread (but I will not obstinate like you).BokaBB wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 4:23 amBan from here.
I read Wikipedia to know the sounds.
I am the founder of this and have rights to incorporate some parts of my ideas even if they are a minority view.
I already said how everything should be read when I said that everything will be phonetical.
Now phonotactics.
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Please do not leave the thread. You have made good contributions here.
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Then BokaBB the 6yo should stop bullying.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2020, 7:10 amPlease do not leave the thread. You have made good contributions here.