Thread for Discord crossposts

[Hdjensofjfnen]

This is a general-purpose thread for humans or bots to crosspost important messages from the Conwaylife Lounge Discord, making them easier to be cited on LifeWiki or read by forum users.

Though this thread is intended to eliminate the barrier of finding the "right" thread to crosspost a Discord message in, please still post discoveries in their appropriate thread in the Patterns forum if applicable.

[Hdjensofjfnen]

here's a glider-powered block keeper, such that the block can be read:

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x = 52, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
4.C$2.C.C$3.2C8$42.A$41.A.A$42.A2$40.5A$40.A4.A$43.A2.A$12.2A29.2A.A$
13.A26.A5.A.2A$12.A26.A.A4.A.2A$12.4A23.A2.A2.2A$9.A5.A24.2A4.A$7.6A
33.A.A$6.A5.A32.2A.3A$6.A2.A18.C22.A$5.2A.A.A15.C.C16.2A.3A$6.A.2A8.
2C7.2C2.2E12.2A.A$5.A12.2C10.E2.E$5.2A.2A20.E2.E$6.A.A22.2E$6.A.A$7.A
8$29.2A$29.A3.2A$30.A2.A.A$27.3A4.A$3C24.A2.4A$2.C27.A$.C29.A$30.2A!

this is one step up from that any-input-safe toggle, could probably have some use in logic gates

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 1526944889

EDIT: Added timestamp

[Hdjensofjfnen]

p53 gun by iNoMed:

Oops, looks like the gourmet catalyst works after all:

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
41bo$41b3o$44bo6b2o$43b2o5bobo$50bo$37b2o10b2o$37bobo$38b2o3b2o4b2o$
34b2o12bobo$20b2o3b2o6bobo5bo2bo4bo$21bo2bobo6bo7bo8b3o$20bo3bo2b2ob2o
bo6bo2bo8bo$14bo5b4obobob2obo8bob2o$2o10b3o8bob2o15b2o$bo9bo8b2o$bobo
7b2o7bo14bo$2b2o13b2obo11b2ob2o$15bo2bob2o2b2o$15b2obo5bo2bo4bo2bo3b3o
$18bo14b4o4bo6bo$18b2o8bo11b2o7b2o$48b2o$26b2o$8b3o14bo17b2o$7bo3bo31b
o$6bo5bo31b3o$6bo5bo33bo$6b3ob3o8b3ob3o$21bo5bo$21bo5bo$22bo3bo$8bo14b
3o$6b2o2$5bo8b2o$15bo$6bo2bo5bob2o$8b2o2b2obo2bo$13bob2o13b2o$13bo7b2o
7bobo$12b2o8bo9bo$7b2obo8b3o10b2o$3b2obobob4o5bo$3bob2o2bo3bo$7bobo2bo
$7b2o3b2o!

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 5166044310

p37 reflector loop by glider_rider:

P37 reflector loop:

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x = 90, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
67bo$66bobob2o$66bob2obo$65b2o$64bo3b6o$65b3o6bo$67bob2obo2bo$68bobob
2obo$71bo3bob2o$72b2obo2bo$73bobobo$72bo2bob2o$66b3o4b2o4bo$66bo2bo4bo
b3o$67b2o5bobo$57bo17bo$55b2o$56b2o$60b2o$61bo10bo$58b3o10b2o$58bo12bo
bo2$68b2o$47bo21bo$46bo22bobo$46b3o21b2o3$85bo$76b3o5bobo$76b3o5bob3o$
75bo3bo3b2o4bo$75bob2o3bo2bob2o$37bobo36b3o4bobobo$37b2o30b2o11b2obo2b
o$38bo31b2o9bo3bob2o$69bo8bobob2obo$77bob2obo2bo$75b3o6bo$74bo3b6o$75b
2o$76bob2obo$28bo47bobob2o$28bobo29b2o15bo$12bo15b2o29bobo$8b2obobo47b
o$8bob2obo$13b2o$6b6o3bo$5bo6b3o$4bo2bob2obo$4bob2obobo8bo$b2obo3bo9b
2o31bo$bo2bob2o11b2o30b2o$2bobobo4b3o36bobo$b2obo2bo3b2obo$o4b2o3bo3bo
$b3obo5b3o$3bobo5b3o$4bo3$18b2o21b3o$18bobo22bo$20bo21bo$20b2o2$16bobo
12bo$17b2o10b3o$17bo10bo$28b2o$32b2o$33b2o$14bo17bo$13bobo5b2o$11b3obo
4bo2bo$10bo4b2o4b3o$11b2obo2bo$12bobobo$11bo2bob2o$11b2obo3bo$14bob2ob
obo$14bo2bob2obo$15bo6b3o$16b6o3bo$23b2o$18bob2obo$18b2obobo$22bo!

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 5282238615

CP reflector by ljkiernan1:

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x = 48, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
38bo$37bobo$38bo2$36b5o$32b2o2bo4bo$32bo6bo2bo$5b2o23bobo6b2obo$4bo2bo
22b2o4bo5bob2o$5b2o28bobo4bob2o$7b3o25bo2bo2b2o$5b2o2bo11bo14b2o4bo$4b
obo12bobo20bobo$2obobo14b2o19b2ob3o$bobo43bo$o2b2o36b2ob3o$b2o24b2o12b
2obo$3b2o21bo2bo$3bo22bo2bo$bobo23b2o$b2o6$15b2obo$15b2ob3o$21bo$15b2o
b3o4b2o$16bobo6bo3b2o$16bobo7bo2bobo$17bo5b3o4bo$23bo2b4o$26bo$27bo$
26b2o!

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 1644716193

[Hdjensofjfnen]

5G trans-queen bee shuttle near misses by carsoncheng:

So close to a 5G trans-queen-bee-shuttle (correct block location highlighted):

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x = 26, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
A.A$.2A$.A10$23.A$22.A$22.3A3$19.2A$20.2A$19.A$23.2A$24.2C$23.A2D5$2.
3A$4.A$3.A!

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 6841684992

Another close call (also one cell off):

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x = 29, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
A.A$.2A$.A11$19.A$20.A$18.3A5.A$26.A.A$26.2A$17.2A$17.A.A2.2D$17.A4.2D
3$2.3A$4.A$3.A!

https://discord.com/channels/3579222555 ... 9775016027

[NooneAtAll3]

I was told (offline) that Discord has a proof of "pseudo-oscillators" being minimally-separable into more than 4 pieces (thus unlike pseudo still lives) that works by introducing intersection component (so connection graph is no longer planar)

I don't think it's in News Archive on wiki, nor on any pages (tho that I might have missed)

[confocaloid]

Can this claim be substantiated?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but WFx71H is already known. (Found by ljkiernan and posted to Discord in 2023, somehow never made it to the forums)

(also, please make this thread pinned in the subforum)

[dvgrn]

Can this claim be substantiated?

(Found by ljkiernan and posted to Discord in 2023, somehow never made it to the forums)

Here's the Discord link --

other finding is this WFx71H, but input clearance is meh so there's only one H-to-W can connect.

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x = 27, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
6.B$5.3B$4.5B$2.7B$2.8B$3.8B$2.8B$2.9B$2.10B$.14B$.11B.3B$10B2C4B$.
10BC6B$2.7B2C8B$3.6BC14B$3.9B2E11BD$5.7B2E9B3DB$8.15BDBD$10.13BD$9.2B
5.2B2.2B$9.2AB$5.2A.A.A$5.A.2A.A.A$11.2A!

[confocaloid]

Discord crosspost request for context and discovery information of Rule:LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship. What were the patterns? What is known about this thing?

edit: fixed an error in the variables section:

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var x = {1,2,3,4,5,6}

from discord

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@RULE LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship
@TABLE
neighborhood: Moore
symmetries: permute
n_states: 7

var a = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6}
var b = {a}
var c = {a}
var d = {a}
var e = {a}
var f = {a}
var g = {a}
var h = {a}

var x = {1,2,3,4,5,6}

#Birth Rules

0 1,1,2,3,0,0,0,0 6
0 1,1,2,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 1,1,3,0,0,0,0,0 2
0 5,1,1,0,0,0,0,0 6
0 1,2,3,4,0,0,0,0 6
0 3,3,3,0,0,0,0,0 4
0 1,1,5,0,0,0,0,0 6
0 5,4,1,1,0,0,0,0 3
0 6,6,2,3,1,1,0,0 2

#Survival Parameters

1 2,1,3,0,0,0,0,0 0
4 4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 0
3 4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 0
3 4,1,1,2,0,0,0,0 3
5 2,4,0,0,0,0,0,0 3
2,1,1,1,3,0,0,0,0 2
3 3,3,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
3 1,1,2,4,0,0,0,0 5
2 1,1,5,0,0,0,0,0 5
5 1,1,2,0,0,0,0,0 3
5 2,1,1,3,0,0,0,0 2
4 5,1,1,0,0,0,0,0 1
3 3,4,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
1 1,1,5,0,0,0,0,0 2
3 5,4,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
2 1,1,5,0,0,0,0,0 4
2 6,6,1,1,0,0,0,0 1
5 2,4,6,6,0,0,0,0 3
6 2,3,1,0,0,0,0,0 1

3 1,1,1,3,0,0,0,0 3
4 3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
4 5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
3 4,2,1,1,6,6,0,0 5
2 1,1,1,3,0,0,0,0 2
1 1,2,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
3 2,4,0,0,0,0,0,0 3
1 2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
2 1,1,5,0,0,0,0,0 2
2 1,1,1,3,5,5,0,0 2
2,1,1,3,0,0,0,0,0 2
3 1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0 3
1 1,3,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 2,3,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 2,5,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 3,5,4,0,0,0,0,0 1
5 1,1,3,0,0,0,0,0 5
3 5,5,2,1,1,4,0,0 3
4 5,5,3,0,0,0,0,0 4
2 6,6,1,1,1,3,0,0 2
4 6,6,3,0,0,0,0,0 4
1 1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
5 1,1,1,3,0,0,0,0 5
4 5,4,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
1 1,6,0,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 1,5,3,0,0,0,0,0 1
5 2,6,6,1,1,0,0,0 5
2 6,6,5,1,1,0,0,0 2
1 6,5,2,0,0,0,0,0 1
4 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4
3 5,1,1,4,0,0,0,0 3
1 2,5,3,0,0,0,0,0 1
1 6,2,3,0,0,0,0,0 1
3 4,1,1,0,0,0,0,0 3
4 6,6,5,0,0,0,0,0 4
3 6,6,2,4,0,0,0,0 3
2 1,1,6,6,3,0,0,0 2

x a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h 0

@COLORS
1 255 255 0
2 255 205 0
3 0 255 0
4 0 255 255
5 255 0 0
6 255 0 255

[dvgrn]

Discord crosspost request for context and discovery information of Rule:LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship. What were the patterns? What is known about this thing?

Not much, it appears! Sorry, I went and looked on Discord when you posted this request, but didn't find any satisfactory answers, so then forgot to post the short string of posts that I did find:

Explunky — 02/09/2022 2:40 PM
!upload Name says it all
@RULE LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship
@TABLE
neighborhood: Moore
symmetries: permute
n_states: 7

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LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship.txt
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This is so stupid

Deleted User — 02/09/2022 3:09 PM
@Explunky: Rule LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship.txt was approved!
Explunky — 02/09/2022 3:11 PM

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x = 4, y = 38, rule = LiterallyAnEntireRuleForOneStupidSpaceship
A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$A3$A$BCD$
A!

!sim 384

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Explunky — 02/09/2022 3:11 PM
I hate this with a passion

I'm drawing a blank on why LifeViewer is giving an "unsupported rule name" error, since the rule is definitely out there in the LifeWiki Rule namespace ... but given the GIF, maybe that doesn't really need to be sorted out.

The new version of safeopenclip.lua is able to find and load the rule into Golly with one click from the snazzy new HTML pop-up link page, and then the pattern works just as the GIF advertises.

[rowett]

I'm drawing a blank on why LifeViewer is giving an "unsupported rule name" error, since the rule is definitely out there in the LifeWiki Rule namespace

It's because there's an error in the rule definition. The following line ends with a ) rather than a }. That's 15 minutes of my life I'm not getting back...

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var x = {1,2,3,4,5,6)

[dvgrn]

I'm drawing a blank on why LifeViewer is giving an "unsupported rule name" error, since the rule is definitely out there in the LifeWiki Rule namespace

It's because there's an error in the rule definition. The following line ends with a ) rather than a }. That's 15 minutes of my life I'm not getting back...

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var x = {1,2,3,4,5,6)

Wow -- but somehow Golly managed to use that version of the rule without complaining.

I'm tempted to go look at Golly's parsing code and see how it manages that, but that would be a lot more than 15 minutes of my life that I wouldn't get back.

[rowett]

Wow -- but somehow Golly managed to use that version of the rule without complaining.

I'm tempted to go look at Golly's parsing code and see how it manages that, but that would be a lot more than 15 minutes of my life that I wouldn't get back.

In for a penny...

Golly's parser gets the final token in the line as "6)" and then uses sscanf() with a %u format (unsigned integer) to decode. Fortunately (for Golly) when sscanf() decodes integers it ignores anything after digits so this successfully decodes as 6.

On a not entirely unrelated note I've just fixed the rule on LifeWiki.

[confocaloid]

Seems like it still doesn't work. Maybe the cause is missing commas in the actual rules? (e.g. "0 1,1,2,3,0,0,0,0 6")
Edit: it worked after doing hard refresh.

[rowett]

Seems like it still doesn't work. Maybe the cause is missing commas in the actual rules? (e.g. "0 1,1,2,3,0,0,0,0 6")

You'll need to hard refresh your browser.