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New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » October 31st, 2021, 3:41 pm

Would it be possible to have storage that stores information in more than just binary? would something like this even be possible? There may be one way if there could be a way to have heisenburps that read spaceships but only if they are in a certain phase, put that would require reflectors that we currently do not have, Would something like this be possible or is it to far out for right now?

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by pcallahan » October 31st, 2021, 4:11 pm

Wyirm wrote:
October 31st, 2021, 3:41 pm
Would it be possible to have storage that stores information in more than just binary?
Trick question? Since the CGoL patterns are themselves encoded in binary. But I imagine you could pack a lot more into phases and other differences at the expense of a more complex encoder/decoder. I can see applications in compactifying streams, assuming even a very complex decoder is still just a constant additional cost. Whether it's worth the trouble is another question.

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » October 31st, 2021, 4:50 pm

Would it be possible to have multiple batteries? this would effectively double the amount of combinations you could make with each extra battery, all you would need is a computer that could calculate what to do for ecah "combination" of signals, and this multi-battery system could be replicated just as easily as any engineered replicator by simply copying the battery to the new battery, wouldn't it? The battery size would Decrease exponentially, while the computer size would just have to be upgraded by one bit.

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by calcyman » October 31st, 2021, 5:01 pm

Wyirm wrote:
October 31st, 2021, 3:41 pm
Would it be possible to have storage that stores information in more than just binary? would something like this even be possible? There may be one way if there could be a way to have heisenburps that read spaceships but only if they are in a certain phase, put that would require reflectors that we currently do not have, Would something like this be possible or is it to far out for right now?
Yes: in fact, all of the Geminoids (starting with the original Gemini) encode information in the relative phases of gliders.
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » October 31st, 2021, 5:07 pm

Slow salvo constructions use this principle, Phase shift reactions Use it, There should be no reason why computers that we create couldn't be able to recognize more than 2 states.

Additionally, More than just one universal constructor could be used (sort of like the 90 degree paired slow salvo), Where more than just one elbow could be used, and extended. This would dramatically reduce the cost of gliders and further reduce the size of the battery. It may increase the number of computers, it would theoretically make our constructor less complex.
With this principle, we don't even need to keep an original block to manufacture components, since we can always build another block, and we don't have to worry if the mechanism we are trying to build is out of bounds, because we can just extend the arm out and build another block. This would make it possible to create geminoids of any slope, speed, and all we would have to do is add an extra "push" to reposition the elbows.

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by dvgrn » November 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm

Mostly as an aside, there are some old data storage mechanisms from the 1990s that aren't used much any more, that effectively count in a higher base than 2. Here's an example by David Bell from 1995, that effectively counts in base 4:
dbell wrote:Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 01:15:48 +1000
Subject: Another glider thinner reaction (4x)


Here is another glider thinner reaction that I am really proud of.
This one is a period quadrupler, and is pretty simple. It can eat any
glider stream with separations of 60+30N generations, and outputs one
glider for every four input gliders. The output glider is emitted in
the same direction as the input stream.

Here is the basic reaction, shown turning part of a period 60 glider
stream into a period 240 glider stream. In this device, the "bits" in
the thinner are successively empty, a boat, a blinker, a block, and
finally a glider (thus becoming empty again).

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$62bo$60b3o13$76bo$77bo$75b3o13$91bo$92bo$90b3o7$119boo$111bo7bobbo$
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105b3o7$101bo$99bobo$97boo$91boo4boo$91boo4boo$99bobo$101bo$$109boo3b
oo$109boo3boo$110b5o$111bobo$$111b3o6$112boo$112boo!
The really nice thing about this thinner is that it stacks so well.
Here are four copies of the thinner consuming the output from a p60 gun.
The output gliders are on the exact same path as the input gliders, and
with the same phase, but MUCH more sparse. In fact, the period of the gun
is 60*4^4 = 15360. (I hope you don't mind waiting a while for the next
output glider to appear when you run this!)

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x = 112, y = 86, rule = B3/S23
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72boo4b3o$79bo16bo$97bo$95b3o4$78boo$78boo!

BCNU,
-dbell-
Unfortunately reading the current value of an individual base-N digit -- with the above mechanism, or with any other mechanism that has been invented so far -- is difficult enough that it's much easier to store/read/write two (or however many) digits of binary instead. These would be the form of a couple of blocks or boats or whatever in a line, like in the binary storage mechanism in the pi/phi/general-purpose calculators, so that both bits can "easily" be queried with the same mechanism.

I think there's a general consensus that smaller self-replicating spaceships could be built using two universal constructors shooting gliders at each other at 90 degrees. This "slow pair" idea definitely isn't new, it's just that single-channel streams producing unidirectional slow salvos are conceptually simpler and therefore easier to use, especially once slsparse came along.

Here's one more link that I dug up, with some statistics about relevant efficiencies of different construction mechanisms.

None of this may be strictly relevant to the original post, but if any of this brings up any questions that seem to need answering, please ask them!

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » November 2nd, 2021, 11:31 pm

This is a hypothetical diagram of what one of these machines may look like. Two computers, which control two separate arms, one of the arms is angled at 45 degrees and has the first galf of the paired salvo, and the second arm is angled at 135 degrees, and is responsible for the other half of the paired salvo. The computer itself has 4 outputs, but only 3 are necessary for this phase. Each computer has the option to either: A, Push elbow, B retract elbow, and C, create glider usign this elbow. When the construction is done, the old computers will start destroying the previous computers using the paired salvo, But this time, The northmost computer will have the 135 degree elbow and the Southmost computer will have the 45 degree elbow. THe computer itself is purely hypothetical, but it would work something like this, purely for simplicities sake: Each instruction will consist of a 3 consecutive glider codon, with the first glider always existing, and the last two detailing the instruction. The mechanism would work by functioning as a binary to quarternary converter. The first glider will activate an AND gate for the other two bits, then the bits would be converted to Quaternary
100 - 1 - Extend 1
101 - 2 - Retract 1
110 - 3 - Glider
111 - 4 - Enter next phase
The Computer would go through Construct, Destroy, copy info, then Inactive

This computer is Purely hypothetical, but Would just require a little coding and spartan herschel conduit knowledge.
Edit*
The computer wouldn't even need to be spartan, due to the fact that we can use paired slow salvos, and when you think about it, it wouldn't be significantly large either. Additionally, two paired slow salvoes take less gliders to construct anything than a slow salvo does, compare the eater 1 slow salvo to the 2G synth of it, As long as the paired slow salvoes take on average 1/2 of the gliders (which they would actually take far less), The dual computers method takes far less gliders, because on average there is a usage of less than 2G per codon, and assuming that we have 100 codons, and 33 of each and one enter next phase, 33 100's, 33 101's, 33 110's, and 1 111. This totals out to 1.68 gliders per codon on average, reducing the cost. you only need 168 G to execute 100 commands, which could build you an entire constellation and stop the machine, and 336H in total, whereas with the slow salvo with 672 gliders (double) you'd still be stuck making a snark.
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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by dvgrn » November 3rd, 2021, 7:13 am

Wyirm wrote:
November 2nd, 2021, 11:31 pm
This is a hypothetical diagram of what one of these machines may look like.
This all looks perfectly doable, and it would be great to have a working example along these lines.

There were quite a large number of unfinished self-constructor designs in the works several years ago, but all of them were fairly complex to work on -- much more so than a more or less equivalent one-arm single-channel design. The ones that weren't later completed all became obsolete in some detail or other in the last half decade, so it hasn't been tempting to pick any of them up again.

Between them they did contain many of the ideas from this thread, though. For example, this one worked through some of the details of duplicating the multiple glider streams used to activate a UC that built things with two synchronized 90-degree glider streams, like the original Gemini, without messing up the relative timings.

A few notes on minor details of the new diagram above:

1) You might not really need the destruction arms. The technology for building cheap self-destruct circuitry is pretty advanced these days, so you really just need a way to produce a single glider aimed at the right location, and both computers will obligingly disappear. There are lots of ways to put a recipe on the tapes to make a single glider along those lines.

2) If you have only PUSH, PULL, and FIRE as encoded options, I think one of two things will be necessary to actually build anything: either

-- add a lot of circuitry to the computer so that FIRE shoots a different color glider when you've PUSHed or PULLed it an odd distance, as compared to an even distance; or
-- do a lot of research to find reasonably efficient recipes for all of the still-life components of your circuitry, using only pairs of gliders colliding at 90 degrees, where all gliders coming from each direction are the same color.

Or I suppose
-- switch to something like a variable-length Huffman encoding, so that you can have PUSH, PULL, FIREWHITE, FIREBLACK, and NEXTPHASE while still keeping the number of bits per instruction as low as possible. There's a simple variable-bit-length encoding system in the constructor-memory-tape and constructor-memory-loop patterns in Golly's pattern collection.

3) A working pattern built from this blueprint might end up being a record-breaker in terms of population, because the encoding of construction recipes can be made to be very efficient. However, it might or might not set records for bounding-box size, compared to other methods.

A big problem with 2-arm constructor designs is that when you're building large areas of circuitry, it's often impossible to avoid long stretches of blank space on your instruction tapes, while one arm waits until it's time to fire a glider to synchronize with the the other arm. Maybe something is being built way off in one corner, or one elbow has to be PUSHed or PULLed a long way before it can be fired again.

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » November 3rd, 2021, 10:57 am

Responding to 1:
I forgot about Freeze dried construction. A simple Freeze dried Salvo could be constructed within the bounding box of the machine, and when activated destroy the computer around it. This would completely and effectively halve the computer size, and remove the destruction phase and idle phase entirely, which would also remove the amount of necessary codons, further reducing the size of our machine. The one problem I originally saw with this machine would be its overall population, because at the end of it's construction phase, THere would exist 3 copies of the original machine, and the machine instructions would have large blank spaces in order to accommodate for the second "dual computers", but by removing the other two phases, after copy, a first Instruction would come along and activate the "self destruct" of the computer. we wouldn't have to worry about the destruction mechanism. While this may not change the amount of codons needed on a large scale, it would still halve computer size.

Responding to 2:
While it may be more efficient in terms of construction, You've seen how massive and complex those things are, and it would make constructing it long, and may even backfire due to the fact that we're trying to make these computers as small as possible, and we don't have to worry about a computer being spartan. It would be beneficial if we could find a compacted variant with a lesser population, and we would of course have to make some modifications, but yes; Variable Length Huffman coding would be significantly more efficient, but only if we could find one with a low enough period and a small enough computer size.

Responding to 3:
It may actually be the reverse. Unlike orthodox geminoids, This one would be essentially a pair of geminoids, which work together to construct each other. The concept of this method is to have as little glider code as possible. Geminoids have MASSIVE strings of slow salvo information that is strode in a boustrophedonically ordered belt that snakes back and forth between two universal constructors, and contains the code for the constructors. With this while we may have a significantly larger computer, which is this things downfall, because we can construct from two angles AND insert gliders using 2g collision to 1g facing in a direction that we couldn't reach normally (if really necessary). Geminoids contain the majority of the population within the belt, so pretty much any construction method that can lower it (even if it increases the computer size) is worth the extra computer size. Think about the snark slow slavo recipe versus what we could do with 90 degree paired slow salvo. EVEN if the paired slow salvo took 100 gliders, that's nothing compared 2253 gliders. THE problem with this that By making this codon system, IT would take rom 100 gliders: we've added extra population into the system and made it less optimal than it possibly could be. By the time we're done with this process, Our total population and bounding box has shrunken, but not by any significant amount, because 1# double the glider chains, 2#, Less efficient encoding system, and 3#, even with all of these bonuses, it only makes the machine more efficient by a small amount.

Let me know if you have any ways where this method can be improved enough for it to be worth it to construct one of these things, but until then, it just isn't that much better than out current slow salvo construction recipes.


Guess I better get working on 90 deg paired slow slavo synthesis components
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by googleplex » November 3rd, 2021, 11:06 am

additionally, what could be considered might be a similar method except for the information being encoded in a single stream, and the decoder converting from perhaps binary into commands? however, I don't know how feasible this would be in terms of size.
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » November 3rd, 2021, 12:00 pm

This method does have kinks to work out, and the computer would be complicated, but you have to remember that the main population of geminoids is primarily stored in the gliders, so proportional reductions to the glider stream reduce population and size, although I wouldn't start working on this until we have a better understanding of 90 deg paired slow salvo synthesis, and at least synth for the spartan and non-spartan components one would need to build the computers. it would make it more efficient it's just not worth it to try building complex structures like these until we can get a method of this that is more efficient enough than the current slow salvo method. It's just two mutually constructing geminoids. IT IS very complicated, and we will just have to see how efficient we can get 90 paired slow salvo construction. I dug through the forums and found these two reactions

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$9b3o22b3o$9b3o23b2o$9b2o!
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x = 55, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
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o$2bo3bo35bo3bo$6bo39bo$3bobo37bobo5$47bo$46b3o$45b2obo$45b3o$45b3o$45b
3o$46b2o$9b3o$9bo2bo$9bo$9bo3bo$9bo3bo$9bo$10bobo!
Edit* one more thing, In order to avoid large gaps in coding while building the herschel conduits, instead of building In a line across and then returning to the start, we will build boustrophedonically, so we don't have to wait for the elbows to return back.

And, In order to solve the problem of changing glider colors, we can add a 4th glider bit at the end of the codon, which we will only recognize if we get 110. if we get 110, then we check for the second glider bit and if we get one, White, and if we don't, Black.


Edit* Push and Pull reactions (not found by me)

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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by googleplex » November 4th, 2021, 12:27 pm

Adding onto what i wrote earlier, what about a design where there are only 3 commands for the elbow.: fire 0hd, moving the elbow forward 1fd and moving the elbow back 1fd.

Problems include that the salvo would have to be monochromatic, but that could be fixed by adding an additional command: fire 1hd.

You can code these commands with sets of periodic gliders(01, 10, 11) and decode them into firing the commands. the exact commands don't have to be exactly this, but the concept remains the same.
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » November 4th, 2021, 2:25 pm

Since we're no longer going to need a next phase command, We can use the extra space to encode a different bit, first G activates the reading mechanism, The second DEtermines whether it's a glider or not, and third determines it stake
100 - Push
101 - Pull
110 - GB
111 - Gw

While it would be possible to add a third bit to simplify the two computers down to one and merge them, but this would actually increase the amount of gliders needed for glider, and decrease the efficiency of the machine, and it wouldn't really increase efficiency.

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by calcyman » November 4th, 2021, 2:59 pm

googleplex wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 12:27 pm
Adding onto what i wrote earlier, what about a design where there are only 3 commands for the elbow.: fire 0hd, moving the elbow forward 1fd and moving the elbow back 1fd.

Problems include that the salvo would have to be monochromatic, but that could be fixed by adding an additional command: fire 1hd.

You can code these commands with sets of periodic gliders(01, 10, 11) and decode them into firing the commands. the exact commands don't have to be exactly this, but the concept remains the same.
That's essentially the idea behind constructor-memory-tape.rle in Golly's pattern collection. And, indeed, if you have a binary tape, then this is a good way to store a construction recipe. You'd probably want to have even-phase and odd-phase versions of the fire instructions, so six instructions in total, in order to be able to support period-2 slow salvos (the industry standard, introduced in Glue 2 and later used by slmake):
  • INC
  • DEC
  • WHITE EVEN
  • BLACK EVEN
  • WHITE ODD
  • BLACK ODD
However, the main innovation in Andrew Wade's Gemini is to realise that a binary tape adds pointless complexity, and that we're better off with glider streams carrying timing information. Then later Simon Ekstrom was able to reduce this to a single glider stream, removing all of the stream-crossing challenges inherent in Gemini. This 'single-channel' approach has been standardised largely for its simplicity, but Dave Greene suspects that Gemini-style synchronised pairs are much more efficient than slow salvos.

So, this raises the question: can we use single-channel encoding but slow-pair construction?

Here's a construction arm that can demultiplex a single-channel stream into a 5hd pair of streams, for example:

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x = 229, y = 256, rule = B3/S23
193b2o$192bobo$186b2o4bo$184bo2bo2b2ob4o$184b2obobobobo2bo$187bobobobo
$187bobob2o$188bo2$201b2o$192b2o7bo$192b2o5bobo$199b2o7$189b2o$190bo$
187b3o$187bo4$159bo$159b3o$162bo$161b2o3$153b2o$153bo$150b2obo70b2o$
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2o3bo3b2o$154bo62b2o4b3o2bo$153b2o70bob2o$225bo$224b2o3$216b2o$216bo$
217b3o$219bo7$189b2o$189b2o39$155b2o$154bobo$156bo21$132b3o$134bo$133b
o20$110b2o$109bobo$111bo21$87b3o$89bo$88bo20$65b2o$64bobo$66bo40$23b3o
$25bo$24bo20$b2o$obo$2bo!
But we don't have reflectors capable of prizing these streams apart in perpendicular directions. And the other block-based logic gate doesn't work at repeat time 90, so that can't be used here either.
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by googleplex » November 4th, 2021, 3:03 pm

Wyirm wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 2:25 pm
Since we're no longer going to need a next phase command, We can use the extra space to encode a different bit, first G activates the reading mechanism, The second DEtermines whether it's a glider or not, and third determines it stake
100 - Push
101 - Pull
110 - GB
111 - Gw

While it would be possible to add a third bit to simplify the two computers down to one and merge them, but this would actually increase the amount of gliders needed for glider, and decrease the efficiency of the machine, and it wouldn't really increase efficiency.
You wouldn't need more than 2 gliders:

10 - push
11 - pull
00 - GB
01 - GW

And then you can have these messages come at a predetermined period (say, a multiple of 46 or 30 so you can use those tecjnologies)

ill make a prototype of this later today, probably
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Re: New universal construction idea

Post by Wyirm » November 4th, 2021, 3:15 pm

Remember that because this uses slow slavo construction with 2 arms, the arms will be different distances and the gliders will have to be synchronized and with a periodic mechanism that wouldn't allow for the timing we need for this mechanism. However, with certain constraints on the computer construction, we can work in periodic synchronicity.

The computer would take the first glider, translate it to herschel, and duplicate it so there are 4 copies, where a xnor gate system and other duplictors will send the herschel to one of 4 demultiplexers, which then we will be able to decode and translate back into WSS signals that will control the elbow.

Edit*
I've been doing some work and I created the pull command shotgun, It may need to be refined, and the leftmost mwss synthesizer needs to be delayed by 4 generation, but here it is:

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Edit* We can create seeds for synchronized components and for each slow component we can create another seed, although we may have limited construction capabilities if we choose to do so. This definetly increases our options. Im going to get working on seeds for the complictaed components and catalysts of herschel conduits, everybody can get back to whatever they need to do.

Yet another edit:

By making the machine periodic we remove the need for the first glider, remove two logic gates and make the logic gates we need spartan. We will have to decide what period we want for our machine, but presumably some multiple of 30 or 46. I am going to begin prototyping a periodic variant of the computer.
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The only difference between each computer will be the glider outputs, the push and pull will stay the same, so will the computer.
The only difference between each computer will be the glider outputs, the push and pull will stay the same, so will the computer.
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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
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25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
Bow down to the Herschel

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