Symmetric shampagne glass

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Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by BokaBB » April 16th, 2020, 4:48 am

This oscillator would be symmetric without the stabilization on the bottom,so are there any symmetric stabilizations?
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Re: Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by Saka » April 16th, 2020, 5:46 am

Well first, off Im assuming you meant champagne glass
Second, it's not symmetric, so I'm a bit confused.
This is the oscillator, by the way

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#N Champagne glass
#O Dean Hickerson
#C A period 22 oscillator found in the mid-1990s.
#C www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Champagne_glass
x = 15, y = 12, rule = b3/s23
3b2o5b2o3b$3bo7bo3b$2obo7bob2o$o2b2o5b2o2bo$b2o6bo2b2ob$3b3o4b2o3b$3bo
4bo2bo3b$4b7o4b2$6b3o6b$6bo2bo5b$8b2o!
If you ignore some of the rotor cells, then here's a symmetric stabilization:

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3b2o5b2o$3bo7bo$2obo7bob2o$o2b2o5b2o2bo$b2o6bo2b2o$3b3o4b2o$3bo4bo2bo$
4b7o2$4b3ob3o$3bo2bobo2bo$3b2o5b2o!
Third, small questions like this are best asked in the Basic Questions thread:
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2036

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Re: Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by BokaBB » April 16th, 2020, 6:54 am

Its rotor (I think) is changing its appearance in such a way that everything that appear on one side can also appear on the other. I am non - English speaking,can you understand me?
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Re: Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by Saka » April 16th, 2020, 7:02 am

BokaBB wrote:
April 16th, 2020, 6:54 am
Its rotor (I think) is changing its appearance in such a way that everything that appear on one side can also appear on the other. I am non - English speaking,can you understand me?
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The rotor is the cells that change. The stator is the cells that do not change.
For example, here is a beacon. The rotor is colored yellow (Alive) and red (Dead) and the stator is colored green (Alive)

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.EA$AE$2A!
I think I understand you. Is what you mean "The oscillators flips"? Then if so, yes, the oscillator flips (I think this is a good way to show it):

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x = 31, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3b2o5b2o7b2o5b2o$3bo7bo7bo7bo$2obo7bob2ob2obo7bob2o$o2b2o5b2o2bobo2b2o
5b2o2bo$b2o2bo6b2o3b2o6bo2b2o$3b2o4b3o7b3o4b2o$3bo2bo4bo7bo4bo2bo$4b7o
9b7o2$6b3o13b3o$5bo2bo13bo2bo$5b2o17b2o!
Sometimes this is called "glide symmetric" but usually that is only for spaceships. Oscillators that flip like champagne glass are called "flippers"

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Re: Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by BokaBB » April 16th, 2020, 7:04 am

1. I know what is rotor and what stator.
2. I was thinking that only spaceships can be glide - symmetric.
3. Everyone,please forget that this thread exists.
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Re: Symmetric shampagne glass

Post by dvgrn » April 16th, 2020, 11:33 am

johnlernert wrote:
April 16th, 2020, 11:29 am
My shovel died on me the other day. Dead battery. A trusted local shop recommended a Twin Power regulator, I think it may be a piece of sh*t.

Battery is good and a check with the voltmeter showed no charge from charging system. The stator is fairly new and the rotor checked out fine when I changed the stator. A guy at work helped me test the stator. I have continuity between the stator pins and no ground from either pin. Stator has AC voltage from the pins when running.
I'm going to delete the original message and ban the spammer, of course, but this was unusually on-topic as these things go. This bot really knows its rotors from its stators.

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