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Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: December 23rd, 2019, 11:22 pm
by calcyman
I've modified Catagolue in commit d48d48ba to do the sensible thing. This census should now accumulate 100 new hauls per hour until the queue is exhausted:
https://gol.hatsya.co.uk/census/b2c3aei ... jkq6c7c/C1
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: December 26th, 2019, 4:32 pm
by muzik
Had a merge request open for a couple of days in case you haven't noticed it yet.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: January 6th, 2020, 7:20 am
by GUYTU6J
Can I deposit my searchRule-matchPatt2.py results into catagolue?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: February 23rd, 2020, 4:06 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
How do I search soups like 64x64, 256x256 or 6x6 stateinvestigator?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: March 22nd, 2020, 11:22 pm
by Bullet51
Is it possible for one to specify a search pattern, where a cell being either alive, dead, or don't-care, and get all the patterns matching the specification?
For example one could specify
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oo.o..
oo.ooo
......
oo.oo?
.o.o??
.o.???
to search for eater 2 variants.
This would be greatly useful for the study of synthesis.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 1st, 2020, 9:48 am
by Ian07
Rules directory gives an error.
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Error: Server Error
The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
Please try again in 30 seconds.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 2nd, 2020, 6:17 am
by gameoflifemaniac
Why isn't Rob's p16 included in the census?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 2nd, 2020, 7:33 am
by calcyman
gameoflifemaniac wrote: ↑April 2nd, 2020, 6:17 am
Why isn't Rob's p16 included in the census?
It's in b3s23/G1 rather than b3s23/C1.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 2nd, 2020, 7:50 am
by gameoflifemaniac
calcyman wrote: ↑April 2nd, 2020, 7:33 am
gameoflifemaniac wrote: ↑April 2nd, 2020, 6:17 am
Why isn't Rob's p16 included in the census?
It's in b3s23/G1 rather than b3s23/C1.
Oh
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 3rd, 2020, 2:24 am
by yujh
What is wrong with this(apgmera, where can I post it?)
- 9B46E85B-B4E6-466F-A681-DB0499036D49.png (6.57 KiB) Viewed 9096 times
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 3rd, 2020, 2:28 am
by Saka
yujh wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2020, 2:24 am
What is wrong with this(apgmera, where can I post it?)
9B46E85B-B4E6-466F-A681-DB0499036D49.png
It looks like you dont have LifeLib installed, I think.
As for where you should post it, there's a thread for apgmera (apgsearch v4.x, right?)
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3049#p49273
Also, you should upgrade to apgluxe.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 3rd, 2020, 2:46 am
by yujh
Saka wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2020, 2:28 am
yujh wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2020, 2:24 am
What is wrong with this(apgmera, where can I post it?)
9B46E85B-B4E6-466F-A681-DB0499036D49.png
It looks like you dont have LifeLib installed, I think.
As for where you should post it, there's a thread for apgmera (apgsearch v4.x, right?)
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3049#p49273
Also, you should upgrade to apgluxe.
Downloaded from gitlab:
https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/apgmera#
Don’t know if it’s v4.something.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 4th, 2020, 1:55 pm
by calcyman
Ian07 wrote: ↑April 1st, 2020, 9:48 am
Rules directory gives an error.
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Error: Server Error
The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
Please try again in 30 seconds.
Fixed.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 11th, 2020, 11:47 am
by Hunting
I submitted a 10000-soup C1 LeapLife test haul to Catagolue just now. Despite changing the server address to gol.hatsya.co.uk, my haul is not uploaded onto Catagolue. I'm using v1.0
P. S. Off-topic spam: Apparently, I have more posts compared to calcyman. Maybe I should stop chitchatting...
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 14th, 2020, 1:55 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 14th, 2020, 2:43 pm
by calcyman
4 years and 5 months. Brett Berger held the throne for the previous few months, up to and including 12th November 2015 -- see
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3 ... 2015-11-12 -- and prior to that there were no backups* and I can't really remember what the situation was. I vaguely recall Dave Greene would have been in the lead if he hadn't split his discoveries equally between two accounts.
*backups were enabled later that year when I realised how expensive it would be (in terms of computing power) to rerun everything in the event of someone completely sabotaging the census.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 1:55 am
by LaundryPizza03
How can I automatically scrape contents from Catagolue? I was interested in obtaining oscillators in OT rules for an oscillator database, and Macbi wants to search for
5s candidates.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 8:49 am
by dvgrn
LaundryPizza03 wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 1:55 am
How can I automatically scrape contents from Catagolue? I was interested in obtaining oscillators in OT rules for an oscillator database, and Macbi wants to search for
5s candidates.
Do you know about the "textcensus" pages? Once you collect a list of rules that you're interested in, you can get a text file of apgcodes for each rule, like this one for LeapLife:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensus/b2n3s23-q/C1
(same as just browsing the census to get to a list of objects, then adding the prefix "text" to the word "census" in the URL).
For some rules that will return a lot of data. You can be more specific and ask for one oscillator/spaceship period at a time, like
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensu ... -q/C1/xp10
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 9:18 am
by Macbi
dvgrn wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 8:49 am
Do you know about the "textcensus" pages? Once you collect a list of rules that you're interested in, you can get a text file of apgcodes for each rule, like this one for LeapLife:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensus/b2n3s23-q/C1
(same as just browsing the census to get to a list of objects, then adding the prefix "text" to the word "census" in the URL).
That's cool! Do you also know how to get a list of rules and the symmetries for each rule?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 9:20 am
by dvgrn
Macbi wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 9:18 am
That's cool! Do you also know how to get a list of rules and the symmetries for each rule?
No, I have a vague memory that something like that is available, but have forgotten the details. Here's hoping someone more knowledgeable can chime in. Obviously it's possible to scrape the main census page, but that will only get leaderboard rules and recently updated rules.
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 9:39 am
by calcyman
Macbi wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 9:18 am
dvgrn wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 8:49 am
Do you know about the "textcensus" pages? Once you collect a list of rules that you're interested in, you can get a text file of apgcodes for each rule, like this one for LeapLife:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensus/b2n3s23-q/C1
(same as just browsing the census to get to a list of objects, then adding the prefix "text" to the word "census" in the URL).
That's cool! Do you also know how to get a list of rules and the symmetries for each rule?
This gives every census that doesn't contain a hyphen in the symmetry (i.e. no backups, or 'synthesis-costs', or 'asymmetric-soups'), with the most recently updated censuses at the top:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/abclist
It's cached with a lifespan of 6 hours. Is that sufficiently good?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 10:11 am
by Macbi
Great, thanks!
EDIT: Should I worry that requesting all of these pages will crash the catagolue?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 22nd, 2020, 2:40 pm
by Naszvadi
dvgrn wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 8:49 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 1:55 am
How can I automatically scrape contents from Catagolue? I was interested in obtaining oscillators in OT rules for an oscillator database, and Macbi wants to search for
5s candidates.
Do you know about the "textcensus" pages? Once you collect a list of rules that you're interested in, you can get a text file of apgcodes for each rule, like this one for LeapLife:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensus/b2n3s23-q/C1
(same as just browsing the census to get to a list of objects, then adding the prefix "text" to the word "census" in the URL).
For some rules that will return a lot of data. You can be more specific and ask for one oscillator/spaceship period at a time, like
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensu ... -q/C1/xp10
Cool! So querying p14 ship in OT hexagonal rule for C1 symmetry, for example:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/textcensus/b2s34h/C1/xq14
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: May 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
by Layz Boi
Is there a way I can say, upload a pattern and Catagolue will tell me whether or not said pattern is already in the Catagolue database?
Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: May 2nd, 2020, 8:45 pm
by dvgrn
Layz Boi wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
Is there a way I can say, upload a pattern and Catagolue will tell me whether or not said pattern is already in the Catagolue database?
Sure -- or pretty close, anyway. Select a pattern in Golly and run
biggiemac's script.
Try some random object like this
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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$6bo3bo$6b4o2$4b4o$3bo3bo$3b2o$5bo$5bo$ob2obob2o$2obobob2o$3bobo$
3bobo$4bo!
and you'll find that it takes you to a page with a valid apgcode,
xs35_woo0u1ug8ozxogjkczca226.
But if there are no soups listed for that object, and no synthesis, then usually that pretty much counts as "not in the Catagolue database".
(There are some cases where complete lists of, say, N-bit objects have been uploaded to Catagolue whether or not they've been seen in soups or synthesized, but those are the exception not the rule.)