## Catagolue Oddities

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

The page for the Schick Engine lists two C1 soups, but both links point to the same soup (the original one). Meanwhile, the xq12 tabulation lists only one occurrence, as expected.
praosylen#5847 (Discord)

x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

That's because of me, I tested catagolue evilly for a hypthetical bug and resubmitted the Schick engine haul but with a different seed root. It was promptly fixed by calcyman

Source: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3061&start=200#p74935

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

A 12G synthesis for xs17_8p7gs26z23 was submitted to Catagolue and according to this job log was processed correctly:

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x = 180, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
115bo$114bo$114b3o$54bo$55b2o$54b2o$135bo$135bobo$135b2o12$78bo$76bobo
$77b2o9$4bo$3bo$3b3o$bo$2bo$3o78b2o$81b2o90b2o$174bo$89b2o83bob2o$85b 2o2bobo81b2o2bo$84bobo2bo85bobobo$86bo88bo2b2o$170b3ob2o3$164b3o$105b
2o59bo$24b2o78bo2bo57bo$23bobo79b2o$25bo$27b2o145bo$27bobo144bo$27bo
146bo2$170b3o3$172b3o$172bo$173bo!

Despite this, the object page still has an obsolete 33G synthesis:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH xs17_8p7gs26z23 costs 33 gliders (true).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 254, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
86bobo$86b2o$87bo$95bo149bo$95bobo145bobo$95b2o147b2o5bobo$239bobo
9b2o$152bo87b2o10bo$150b2o88bo$151b2o$253bo$24bo226b2o$23bo63bo10b
o39b2o46b2o48b2o14b2o$23b3o60bobo8bo41bo2bo9b3o32bo2bo46bo2bo$86bo
bo8b3o39bobobo8bo34bobobo45bobobo$77b3o4b2o2b2o47b2o2b2o10bo31b2o 2bobo43b2o2bobo$79bo3bobobo48bobobo45bobobo45bobobo5b2o$78bo5bo2bo 7b2o40bo2bo9b2o34bobo7bo39bobo6bobo$28bobo56b2o6bobo42b2o7b2o34b2o
b2o6b2o3b2o32b2ob2o5b2o$28b2o65bo55bo43bobo3bobo47b2o$29bo106b2o
63bo49bobo$132bo3bobo112bo$130bobo3bo$23b2o106b2o65b3o$22b2o64b2o
110bo33b3o13b2o$12bo11bo64b2o108bo36bo13bobo$13b2o73bo146bo3b2o9bo
$12b2o12bo212bobo$25b2o212bo$25bobo2$13b3o$15bo29bo$14bo3b2o24b2o$3o16b2o23bobo$2bo15bo$bo20b3o$24bo$23bo6b2o$29b2o$31bo!  A for awesome Posts: 2295 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: Pembina University, Home of the Gliders Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities praosylen#5847 (Discord) x₁=ηx V*_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ Moosey Posts: 4029 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Doublespam; one person is searching it too much with minimal-size hauls every 30 seconds, and the other has a spammy name. My CA rules can be found here Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Nanho walåt derwo esaato? leaplife advertising bad! testitemqlstudop Posts: 1367 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: in catagolue Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get EDIT: look at it again Moosey Posts: 4029 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities testitemqlstudop wrote:The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get EDIT: look at it again Alright, but next time make the long name less spammy My CA rules can be found here Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Nanho walåt derwo esaato? leaplife advertising bad! testitemqlstudop Posts: 1367 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: in catagolue Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Ian07 Posts: 666 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census Moosey Posts: 4029 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? My CA rules can be found here Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Nanho walåt derwo esaato? leaplife advertising bad! calcyman Posts: 2352 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census Fixed in commit b77841d9: https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... cec76069fe Moosey wrote:... even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? By telling Catagolue that you found 10^15 instances of a particular object. (You couldn't get away with this in a real census, because there are statistical tests and peer-validation and so forth...) What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! testitemqlstudop Posts: 1367 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: in catagolue Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Moosey wrote: Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME Moosey Posts: 4029 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Catagolue Oddities testitemqlstudop wrote: Moosey wrote: Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME Oh, sorry! My CA rules can be found here Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Nanho walåt derwo esaato? leaplife advertising bad! Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 1655 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: r cis θ ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Moosey wrote: testitemqlstudop wrote: Moosey wrote: How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME Oh, sorry! And now the user pages are down: https://catagolue.appspot.com/user/apgoucher@gmx.com Code: Select all x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3 3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!


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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

User pages are back up.
may or may not be what you'd expect

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

_zM wrote:User pages are back up.
Yes, they were down due to an integer overflow problem, and I've deleted the offending censuses (as well as implementing provisions to prevent a repeat of this).
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23

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testitemqlstudop wrote:The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23
@calcyman:
Is there any way to block that specific person?
My CA rules can be found here

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1
The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Ian07 wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1
The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2
I refer to them as Uploady mcGetYourOwnSymmetry (or just “Uploady”), if we need a unique name for these Sakagolue/Snowflakes/thatothersymmetry trolls (apparently there are multiple, forming a (according to Uploady II) “Nice coding community”. I think we can all agree that at least the first word doesn’t apply very well here. What kind of kind people ruin someone's Symmetry?)
Also, why does X3VI need to be #1 again?
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

OK, look, if this gets serious to the point where a whole rule with 700G objects is getting broken, Uploady II needs to be IP-banned. (And is there a way to remove the "ylwarning" from the census?)

It is possible to reject all hauls that don't pass:
1. a soup/object ratio consistency check
2. an object well-formedness check
3. a top 5 most common object identicality check

Spamming censuses are an effective way of getting attention, anyhow... negative attention.

(And why do I think majestas did it?)

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Naszvadi wrote:A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4
This is an artifact of a now-fixed bug in apgsearch which I think caused it to search a different rule than intended? I'm not sure of the specifics but I remember that it affected the Morley census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b368s245/C1

Notice in Morley that the xs1 tabulation is displayed but is completely empty, and that some of the larger still life tabulations also contain fake objects.