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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » March 6th, 2019, 1:46 am

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Apple Bottom » March 6th, 2019, 4:15 am

It's not being misspelled, it's just being spelled absurdy. ;)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » March 8th, 2019, 3:13 am

Apple Bottom wrote:
It's not being misspelled, it's just being spelled absurdy. ;)
*facepalm*
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by testitemqlstudop » March 9th, 2019, 4:52 pm

yl2304_2016_12_19 is supposed to be yl2304_1_1553_7ddf2125170b121a099d591e2588e1fb.

apgluxe stdin output:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23                                                                                                                                                      
ob3obobo4bo$3obobobob2o$4bob3ob3o2bo$bo3bo3b2obob2o$3b2o2bobo3bobo$2b                                                                                                              
4o2bob2ob2o$ob2obob3obo$2b3o2b2ob4obo$4ob2ob2ob2obo$b3obo3bob5o$2bob3o                                                                                                             
bob4o$4bobo2b7o$3o9b3o$bo3bob5o$b4ob2obo5bo$bob2ob3ob2o2b2o!                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                   
Linear-growth pattern detected: yl2304_1_1553_7ddf2125170b121a099d591e2588e1fb


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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by 77topaz » March 11th, 2019, 5:41 pm

Yeah, a few of the oldest yls have apgcodes corresponding to their dates of discovery; I presume this was before apgsearch had a proper way of describing the parameters of yls like it does now.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Apple Bottom » March 12th, 2019, 4:09 am

77topaz wrote:Yeah, a few of the oldest yls have apgcodes corresponding to their dates of discovery; I presume this was before apgsearch had a proper way of describing the parameters of yls like it does now.
Actually, as I recall it these names are due to the patterns originally being classified as zz_LINEAR; Calcyman manually renamed them, but used the date on which they were discovered rather than computing the "proper" hashed yl code.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by 77topaz » March 13th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Some anonymous douchebag added a spam haul with a fake object count to the Snowflakes census: http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci3 ... bf42792304

Calcyman, can you delete this ASAP?

I also propose blocking people from apgsearching anonymously, so anyone who tries this kind of trollery in the future can immediately be held accountable. Or, if that's too strict, require anonymous hauls to be verified before entering the census for all rules.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by danny » March 13th, 2019, 6:52 pm

77topaz wrote:comment
Jeez, it's not even a good fake either. I had some ideas for low-computation verification procedures I may send to calcyman.

Adam may also be able to trace the IP and find out who it is.

EDIT: Oh, and I guess technically that makes Snowflakes the first INT rule to reach 1 trillion! Congrats, Anonymous, you earn a smack upside the head 8)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by 77topaz » March 13th, 2019, 7:55 pm

The troll haul also pushed Snowflakes past the 1 trillion objects threshold to require verification, and it appears Snowflakes verification isn't working very well, throwing a rather large number of hauls into the red zone (?committed=4): http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci3 ... ommitted=4

In fact, more than three quarters of the hauls added since verification began are reddened.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » March 14th, 2019, 5:52 am

77topaz wrote:Some anonymous douchebag added a spam haul
I've modified the backout process to readjust numsoups and numobjects, and backed SAD's haul out of the census. Now Snowflakes is below the 10^12 mark, it's returned to accepting hauls without running Parmenides (the combination of statistical tests, object validity checks, and peer verification).
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » March 14th, 2019, 6:11 am

calcyman wrote: I've modified the backout process to readjust numsoups and numobjects, and backed SAD's haul out of the census. Now Snowflakes is below the 10^12 mark, it's returned to accepting hauls without running Parmenides (the combination of statistical tests, object validity checks, and peer verification).
SAD is still shown as the top searcher on the pie chart though. Also, is there a way you can reaccept the previously rejected hauls from ?committed=4 that were legitimate?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by googoIpIex » March 14th, 2019, 12:06 pm

77topaz wrote: Or, if that's too strict, require anonymous hauls to be verified before entering the census for all rules.
I second this Idea. It sounds smart.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » March 14th, 2019, 7:47 pm

googoIpIex wrote:
77topaz wrote: Or, if that's too strict, require anonymous hauls to be verified before entering the census for all rules.
I second this Idea. It sounds smart.
Thirded.
Spaceships are listed out of order in a typo symmetry: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3s23/D8_+4/xq4
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4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Moosey » March 14th, 2019, 7:47 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
googoIpIex wrote:
77topaz wrote: Or, if that's too strict, require anonymous hauls to be verified before entering the census for all rules.
I second this Idea. It sounds smart.
Thirded.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » March 14th, 2019, 7:51 pm

Actually, it might be worth considering adding "trusted" flags to certain users.
EDIT:
Catagolue breaks when the apgcode claims a pattern is a spaceship with period 2^31 - 1.
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq2 ... _das/b3s23
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'The fact has not created in me
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » March 15th, 2019, 4:46 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Catagolue breaks when the apgcode claims a pattern is a spaceship with period 2^31 - 1.
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq2 ... _das/b3s23
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq99_das/b3s23
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq100_das/b3s23
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by 77topaz » March 19th, 2019, 2:00 am

calcyman wrote:I've modified the backout process to readjust numsoups and numobjects, and backed SAD's haul out of the census. Now Snowflakes is below the 10^12 mark, it's returned to accepting hauls without running Parmenides (the combination of statistical tests, object validity checks, and peer verification).
The troll haul still shows in the Snowflakes pie chart, squishing all the other sectors down into a tiny 1% slice. Would you be able to fix that?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » March 22nd, 2019, 7:55 pm

This tabulation does not appear on the main census for this rule: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/xsheepca/C1/xp4

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » March 23rd, 2019, 6:37 am

Ian07 wrote:This tabulation does not appear on the main census for this rule: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/xsheepca/C1/xp4
Yes it does. Note that there's potentially a 10-minute delay because the main census page is cached.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by fluffykitty » March 27th, 2019, 2:25 pm

https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3s01357/C1/xs5 The page is linked from the census page but has no objects.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by A for awesome » April 1st, 2019, 1:03 am

This is weird. Seems that pages can be created that link to near-arbitrary other pages (that then link to others, and so on).
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » April 1st, 2019, 1:40 pm

"G1" and the like are listed as unofficial symmetries.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Moosey » May 14th, 2019, 6:45 pm

Why does this page have a PD synth as part of its synth when the PD isn’t actually anything to do with the synth? (And indeed, would actually interfere with the synthesis)
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 91gp/b3s23
It seems like a weird test thing.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » May 14th, 2019, 6:53 pm

Moosey wrote:Why does this page have a PD synth as part of its synth when the PD isn’t actually anything to do with the synth? (And indeed, would actually interfere with the synthesis)
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 91gp/b3s23
It seems like a weird test thing.
There was a bug with Shinjuku where syntheses weren't being separated correctly during Catagolue's update process. The bug's been fixed now, but the affected syntheses are still broken:

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#C [[ GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH xp6_ccb7w66z066 costs 5 gliders (true).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 354, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o$174bo$175b2o$174b2o$231bobo$232b2o$92bobo137bo$92b2o$51bo
41bo$51bobo123bo52b2o$47bo3b2o28bo54bo2bo38b2o51b2o10bo2bo48bo2bo$
42bo5bo33bo3bobo3b2o45bo37b2o16bo34bo6b2o7bo48bo6bo$40bobo3b3o31b
3o4b2o3bobo40bo4bo50b4obo39bo2bo2bo4bo46bo4b3obo$41b2o44bobo2bo42b
2o2bobo49b3obobo38bo2bo2b2o2bobo44bobo2b3obobo$6b2o81bobo41b2o5bob
2o35b2ob2o12bobo34b2o2b2o8bob2o33b2o5b2ob2obo5bobo$2bo2b2o70b3o9b
2o38bo3b2o43bobob2o13bo35b2o49b2o9b2o7bo$obo4bo54b2o15bo50bo49bo9b
o5b2o98bo6b2o$3o59b2o14bo3b2o3b4o15b2o19b4o2b2o5bo2bo19b2o11b2o4b
2o2b2obo6b2o29b2ob2ob2o2b2o8bo2bo20b2o5b2o4b3o4bo2bo8b2o32b2o12b2o
$b2o57b2o20bobobo2bobo14bo2bo17bobo3b2o4b3o21bobo10bobo3b2o2b2ob3o
4bo2bo27bob3ob2o2b2o8b2o21bobo5bo2bo2b3o6b2o8bo2bo29bo2bo11b2o$60b
2o21b3o3bo38b3o7bob2o22b3o10b3o48b4o15b2o20b3o13b3o9b2o37bo$3b2o3b
2o16b3o55b2o3bo35b3ob2o7b4o23b2o11b2o49b3o16bo20b2o14b3o8b2o38bo
15bo$3b3ob2o19bo53b3o2bobo16bob2o17bobo10bobo20bobo10bobo17bob2o
27bob2obo6b2o6bobo20bobo5bob2o3b3o2b2o6bo4bob2o29bobo3bo8bobo$3bo
5bo17bo49b2o2b3o2bobo12b2o2bobo14b2o2bobo6b3obobo16b2o2bobo6b2o2bo
bo5b2o4b4o2bobo24b2ob5obo2b2o2bo2b4obobo22bob2ob2ob4ob3o2bo2bo5b2o
2bobo32bobo3bo2b2o2bo2bo$4bo72bobo2bo4bo13bo4bo15bobo2bo7b4obo8bo
8bobo2bo7bobo2bo6b2o3b2obo4bo25bob5obo3b2o2bo2b5obo24b2obob2ob4ob
2o2bo2bo5bo4bo34bo4bo2b2obo$29b3o46b4ob4o18bo17b4o8bo3bo9bobo7b4o
9b4o14bo4bo19bo7b4o2bo9b2o5bo26b5o6b2o4b2o10bo36b4o7b2o$29bo49b2o
21bo2bo18b2o10bo12b2o9b2o11b2o17bo2bo6bo11bobo7b2o48b2obo7b2o12bo
2bo$30bo169bobo11bobo67bo$18b3o131b2o47b2o12bo74b2o$20bo131bobo85b
2o48b2o$19bo132bo59b2o26bobo$211b2o27bo$207b2o4bo22b2o$206bobo26bo
bo43b2o63b2o$208bo28bo44b2o56bobo2b2o$281bo59b2o4bo$341bo$44b3o$
44bo153b2o$45bo151bobo$199bo2$296bo$296bobo$296b2o2$341bo$335bo4b
2o$287bo48b2o2bobo$287bobo45b2o$89bo192bo4b2o$88bo194b2o$88b3o63bo
127b2o$152bobo$86bo7bobo56b2o70bo54bo12b2o$87bo6b2o128bobo52bobo
11bobo$85b3o7bo49b2o9b2o66bobo52bobo11bo$144b4o7bobo53bo13bo40bo
13bo50b2o7b4o$83bo59bo2bobo8bo52bob4o49bob4o62bob2o2bo4bo$81bobo
58bobo2b2o60bobob3o48bobob3o58bo2bo2b2o2bo3bobo$82b2o57bobo64bobo
52bobo63bobo8bo3bobo$78b2o60b2o67bo54bo65bo15bo$77bobo60b3o66b2o
53b2o80bo$79bo61bobo65b2o53b2o64b2o11bo2bo$142b2o65b2o53b2o64b2o
12b2o3$81b2o$82b2o$81bo!
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