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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by unname4798 » February 24th, 2024, 11:42 am

Why is S/N ratio approximate?

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » February 25th, 2024, 1:01 am

unname4798 wrote:
February 24th, 2024, 11:42 am
Why is S/N ratio approximate?
With this appearing under the category "website-related questions", I guess that is because there is no commonly accepted well-defined way of measurement. Everyone seems to use their own definitions of signals, noises and ratios. This is unfortunate in general (because there should be a common language for people to be able to understand each other and collect the knowledge in a form that has some chance of remaining useful to others as time goes), but ultimately inconsequential in this particular case (because being able to calculate an exact value for S/N ratio would be of little help in practice).
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by hotdogPi » February 25th, 2024, 1:03 am

i thought S/N was referring to (still lifes with N cells)/(still lifes with N-1 cells).
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by Haycat2009 » February 26th, 2024, 7:36 am

Why is calculating exact S/N ratio useless in practice?
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by unname4798 » February 26th, 2024, 8:25 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
February 26th, 2024, 7:36 am
Why is calculating exact S/N ratio useless in practice?
Useful, not useless.

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » February 26th, 2024, 8:47 am

Useless, because knowing it will not solve anything.
"The current S/N ratio is calculated to be 0.0072973525693"
So what?
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by unname4798 » February 26th, 2024, 9:21 am

confocaloid wrote:
February 26th, 2024, 8:47 am
Useless, because knowing it will not solve anything.
"The current S/N ratio is calculated to be 0.0072973525693"
So what?
In future, people would calculate exact SN ratio.

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » February 26th, 2024, 9:36 am

unname4798 wrote:
February 26th, 2024, 9:21 am
confocaloid wrote:
February 26th, 2024, 8:47 am
Useless, because knowing it will not solve anything.
"The current S/N ratio is calculated to be 0.0072973525693"
So what?
In future, people would calculate exact SN ratio.
...and make lots of chatty posts about that on conwaylife.com, which would have the effect of decreasing the S/N ratio.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by Tawal » March 18th, 2024, 4:19 pm

I have a matter with this post :viewtopic.php?f=2&t=576&p=180523#p180369

I have edited it to correct Fx199 into Fx119 and added a post-scriptum "Edit2".
I submit my modified message but I don't see the post-scriptum !
The correction is well done above the pattern I share in this post.

When I try to re-edit my post, the post-scriptum "Edit2" is there !

Edit : In order to try again :)
Do you see the "Edit2" at the end of my post ?

Edit2: It works fine here...
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by dvgrn » March 18th, 2024, 4:37 pm

Tawal wrote:
March 18th, 2024, 4:19 pm
Do you see the "Edit2" at the end of my post ?

Edit2: It works fine here...
Scroll down and have a look in the bottom of your code block. There's a little problem with the closing code tag, which means the whole rest of the post is getting treated as code.

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by Tawal » March 18th, 2024, 5:23 pm

dvgrn wrote:
March 18th, 2024, 4:37 pm
...
Scroll down and have a look in the bottom of your code block. There's a little problem with the closing code tag, which means the whole rest of the post is getting treated as code.
Great, I have corrected it and it works fine now.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » March 19th, 2024, 10:04 am

I suggest to protect the page LifeWiki:Tiki bar, since it is no longer used (replaced by a dedicated subforum).

The reason why I consider this a problem:
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by iddi01 » April 2nd, 2024, 7:57 am

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I can't find an appropriate thread for posting this, but since i joined, the Special:Statistics page always says there are 12 active users, despite the Special:ActiveUsers page listing nearly 30 active users. Can someone fix this?
That problem still holds, but nobody seems to have noticed that post, and i really can't find an appropriate thread for this, so i'm reposting this here.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by d/dx » April 7th, 2024, 2:54 pm

In LifeViewer patterns, why does "b" mean dead and "o" mean alive?
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by hotdogPi » April 7th, 2024, 2:57 pm

d/dx wrote:
April 7th, 2024, 2:54 pm
In LifeViewer patterns, why does "b" mean dead and "o" mean alive?
"b" stands for "blank", and "o" is a circle from when dot matrix displays used circles for each pixel rather than squares going all the way to the corner.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by unname4798 » April 9th, 2024, 7:42 am

Where do deleted threads go?

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by dvgrn » April 9th, 2024, 8:23 am

unname4798 wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 7:42 am
Where do deleted threads go?
I don't know any more than what public phpBB documentation says.

There might be some database leftovers from deleted posts that Nathaniel can see and I can't, for example. But for what it's worth, when someone deletes a post, there's an entry in the moderator logs that says the post was deleted, and there's still a link in that entry that says "view post" -- but when I click on it, it just tells me that it doesn't exist. Surprise, surprise. Maybe with some "soft delete" setting it would still show the post (?) but it looks like hard deletes are what happens around here.

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by d/dx » April 9th, 2024, 1:57 pm

How to stop searches in apgluxe? (urgent)
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by dvgrn » April 9th, 2024, 2:14 pm

d/dx wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 1:57 pm
How to stop searches in apgluxe? (urgent)
Without losing any search results? I don't recall if hitting "q" still stops a search at the end of the next haul.

Ctrl+C should kill the job immediately, but any search results recorded so far will be lost.

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by d/dx » April 9th, 2024, 2:49 pm

I've done some hauls now. It says it's contacted Catagolue and deposited the hauls, but I can't see them. I think they need to be verified by someone.

Is my assumption correct? If so, how do I get them verified and how long will it take?
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » April 9th, 2024, 3:00 pm

d/dx wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 2:49 pm
I've done some hauls now. It says it's contacted Catagolue and deposited the hauls, but I can't see them. [...]
You did not say what was the CA rule and what was the census. Open the census page, only with "/census/" replaced by "/haul/" in the URL, like this:

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https://catagolue.hatsya.com/haul/b3s23/C1
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/haul/b3s23/C1
You can check whether your hauls are visible there.
d/dx wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 1:57 pm
How to stop searches in apgluxe? (urgent)
Depends on whether you are using multithreading ("-p").

If you see messages "N soups completed" where N is a "random-looking" integer (not a multiple of 100000), then try hitting the key "q" in the console window and waiting. Apgsearch should submit the haul and exit.

Otherwise, if you see messages "N soups completed" where N is always a multiple of 100000, it is likely that you are using multiple threads. Then likely Ctrl+C will submit the haul and exit.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by d/dx » April 9th, 2024, 3:07 pm

confocaloid wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 3:00 pm


You did not say what was the CA rule and what was the census. Open the census page, only with "/census/" replaced by "/haul/" in the URL, like this:

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https://catagolue.hatsya.com/haul/b3s23/C1
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/haul/b3s23/C1
You can check whether your hauls are visible there.
They are! Thanks. I am doing b3s23c1.

Also, when prompted to say how many CPU threads I wanted (i'm on the precompiled version) I answered 1, but the progress updates are round numbers.

(Edit: my payosha key is displayed as "d/dx", but my key's haul redirects to "d". I think I know why, but that's funny, and I should probably change it.)
Last edited by d/dx on April 9th, 2024, 3:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by confocaloid » April 9th, 2024, 3:09 pm

d/dx wrote:
April 9th, 2024, 3:07 pm
Also, when prompted to say how many CPU threads I wanted (i'm on the precompiled version) I answered 1, but the progress updates are round numbers.
You can always press first "q" first, and see if that works. If the program does not react to that, then try "Ctrl+C".

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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by b-engine » April 11th, 2024, 6:54 am

What on earth is doing this?
How can a guest posting a message?
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Re: Thread for your website-related questions

Post by TYCF » April 12th, 2024, 8:57 am

confocaloid wrote:
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That page is old. E.g. there are Perl scripts listed. If you copy some RLE in a clipboard and select "File -> Run Clipboard" in Golly, then the program shows a message "Sorry, but Perl scripting is no longer supported."
Should it be updated?

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