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Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 1st, 2018, 11:20 am
by cyclotron
Hello there,

May I request trust flag for cyclotron?
I would like to add patterns to illustrate a post on collisions between gliders.

B.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 1st, 2018, 2:28 pm
by dvgrn
cyclotron wrote:Hello there,

May I request trust flag for cyclotron?
I would like to add patterns to illustrate a post on collisions between gliders.

B.
Not seeing a user "cyclotron" on the LifeWiki -- it's a separate signup procedure, which is probably a little silly but so it goes.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 6:41 am
by cyclotron
OK. So I created an account for cyclotron on the LifeWiki.
Thanks for the fast reply.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 6:59 am
by dvgrn
cyclotron wrote:OK. So I created an account for cyclotron on the LifeWiki.
Thanks for the fast reply.
Trusted flag is set. Welcome to the LifeWiki!

It seems to be traditional to just throw users in at the deep end and see how they swim. It sounds like you know what you want to try, so you're welcome to try it -- if a change falls foul of commonly accepted LifeWiki policy somehow, then someone will be along to fix it eventually and ask you politely not to do that again.

That's not always a particularly pleasant way to learn but it usually works eventually. Feel free to ask questions on places like your User talk page.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 4:15 pm
by cyclotron
Ok.

I do not intend to start a revolution. For the time being, I only want to add some patterns that are not listed. Not because they were unknown until know but because naming patterns gives headaches I guess.
It seems a good way to start to participate. I believe the biggest risk is if names are not accepted.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 5:47 pm
by cyclotron
I checked the links in your post.

Before wasting your time (and mine), I would like to expose to you a little more what I want to do: my ultimate intention is to post in the thread "Enumerating Three-Glider Collisions". Some of the 3-glider collisions result in populations that contain patterns not listed in the LifeWiki. This is why I want to create 15 pages for these patterns so that readers can see how the patterns look like. The purpose is NOT to get credit for these patterns that were discovered long ago, it is only to mention the fact that there is at least one 3-glider collision that produces these patterns.

For example, 'trans-mango with tail' (5bo$3b3o$2bo$bobo$o2bo$obo$bo!) can be found in the result of the computation of 41bo$40bo$40b3o50$2bo$obo$b2o$4b3o$4bo$5bo!. After 333 generations, population is stable and contains 61 cells: 9 blinker 4 block 1 beehive and 1 trans-mango with tail.

When I read the rules about creating a page for a pattern, I wonder if this is enough for that pattern to have a dedicated page. In the case of trans-mango with tail, I find it hard to give any link. Except the fact that it is listed on http://www.petadecathlon.com list of 12 cells stable patterns as '12.98' (but this site is usually not listed in references as far as I could see).

I would mostly appreciate your advices.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 6:10 pm
by MilkyWay90
Make User:MilkyWay90 a trusted user, please.

I had to spend 30 minutes just getting to type this.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 9:19 pm
by dvgrn
MilkyWay90 wrote:Make User:MilkyWay90 a trusted user, please.

I had to spend 30 minutes just getting to type this.
Done. What took the 30 minutes exactly?

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 9:32 pm
by dvgrn
cyclotron wrote:... my ultimate intention is to post in the thread "Enumerating Three-Glider Collisions". Some of the 3-glider collisions result in populations that contain patterns not listed in the LifeWiki. This is why I want to create 15 pages for these patterns so that readers can see how the patterns look like. The purpose is NOT to get credit for these patterns that were discovered long ago, it is only to mention the fact that there is at least one 3-glider collision that produces these patterns.
That seems reasonable to me -- fifteen is not a lot of pages. My only suggestions would be

1) Copy the article text from an existing page -- something like Trans-boat with nine, maybe -- and modify it to get the page you want. If you want to include an embedded viewer with the 3-glider collision that produces the still life, that's maybe not necessary but it seems like that would be good too. Example embedded viewers with simple looping animations are in quite a few articles now, like Buckaroo.

2) Use the standard name from Catagolue if one is available. If not, it might be worth checking Mark Niemiec's search page to see if a name is given there. Just paste in the RLE of the object in any orientation and click Search.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 4th, 2018, 7:03 pm
by cyclotron
Thanks.

I found the patterns in both collections and started editing a 15 bits pattern.

I purposely remove the link to the 15 still bits page to avoid pollution while I'm editing.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 6th, 2018, 10:40 pm
by MilkyWay90
dvgrn wrote:
MilkyWay90 wrote:Make User:MilkyWay90 a trusted user, please.

I had to spend 30 minutes just getting to type this.
Done. What took the 30 minutes exactly?
The fact that I was really tired and could barely type.

So, there's nothing wrong with the login system, if that's what you're talking about.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 7th, 2018, 7:31 pm
by Caenbe
Can I have a trusted flag, please? There's a theorem about phoenixes that I want to add a citation for.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 7th, 2018, 10:46 pm
by dvgrn
Caenbe wrote:Can I have a trusted flag, please? There's a theorem about phoenixes that I want to add a citation for.
Done. And sure, just link to the post for the p3 phoenix nonexistence proof. If it ends up somewhere more official, we can always shift the link to that later.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 11th, 2018, 5:56 am
by wildmyron
May I be trusted on the wiki please? Username also wildmyron.

Edit: Thank you.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 11th, 2018, 7:50 am
by dvgrn
wildmyron wrote:May I be trusted on the wiki please? Username also wildmyron.
Done. Welcome to the wild world of the wiki --

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 27th, 2018, 6:51 am
by Naszvadi
Possible spam users - their signatures are malicious, or at least suspicious - faking labels, clickbaits: Cannot decide if this account is a bot (********.com as a project in signature - if it is relevant or not, without clicking on it, or just a CEO/owner of the site):
../forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2052

In the latter case(s), a change of signature would be enough, I think. Yes, there are some other accounts like the above.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: December 27th, 2018, 10:49 am
by dvgrn
Naszvadi wrote:Possible spam users - their signatures are malicious, or at least suspicious - faking labels, clickbaits...
I don't know if Nathaniel can easily remove spammer accounts completely, but the other admins can only add them to a banlist, by name and/or IP address. I don't seem to have any way to edit a spam signature.
(Unless there's an admin feature I haven't found yet, which is quite possible!)

The three accounts you linked to are pretty much what a spammer account looks like after their messages have been reported and removed. There are probably hundreds of these out there, and it's a known issue -- not much point in posting links to any particular subset of them.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 3rd, 2019, 9:17 am
by Sarp
Can I get trusted flag? I'm Sarp

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 3rd, 2019, 9:57 am
by dvgrn
Sarp wrote:Can I get trusted flag? I'm Sarp
Done!

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 16th, 2019, 4:41 am
by muzik
Bit of an incident here: viewforum.php?f=7


I want to create a new thread specifically for requesting wiki access some time soon.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 16th, 2019, 4:44 am
by 77topaz
Maybe there isn't specifically a need for a thread for reporting spam attacks, anyway - there's a "report post" button which can be used to do that more directly.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 16th, 2019, 10:18 pm
by wildmyron
muzik wrote:Bit of an incident here: viewforum.php?f=7
And again (still ongoing).
77topaz wrote:Maybe there isn't specifically a need for a thread for reporting spam attacks, anyway - there's a "report post" button which can be used to do that more directly.
Could mods please let us know their preferred method of notification? Posting to this thread sends an email to everyone watching it (which probably elicits a more timely response at the cost of sending unnecessary emails to all mods), but I'm not sure what what happens when someone reports a post.

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 16th, 2019, 11:11 pm
by Bullet51
wildmyron wrote: And again (still ongoing).
http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3724

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 16th, 2019, 11:16 pm
by 77topaz
Yeah, new spam threads seem to be appearing about every five minutes currently.

Also, weirdly, it seems like maybe 90% of the spam attacks in the past twelve months could've been prevented by barring users from registering with numbers at the end of the usernames. :?

Re: Massive spam attacks on the wiki (and forums?)

Posted: January 17th, 2019, 3:36 pm
by BZH314
77topaz wrote:90% of the spam attacks in the past twelve months could've been prevented by barring users from registering with numbers at the end of the usernames. :?
gasp! :o
I now see the cleverness of your username :D