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Sokwe wrote:
pcallahan wrote:Is there a smaller p120 MWSS anyone knows of than this one?...
Can it not be made smaller with Michael Simkin's small p120 gun?
Yup, that does cut it down quite a bit:

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x = 65, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
52.3B.2A.A$51.5BA.2A$50.5B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B.3B.B2.4B$41.18B.4B$40.3B 3A10B2A5B2A$40.3B2AB2A8B2A5B2A$40.3B2AB2A14B.B$38.7B2A12B2AB$37.13B2. 7B2A$37.10B6.8B$38.7B7.7B$36.8B6.10B$36.2A7B2.13B$35.B2A21B$33.B.22B$
32.2A5B2A16B$32.2A5B2A16B$33.4B.18B$33.4B2.B.3B.4B$44.4B$43.4B$34.2A
6.4B$34.A6.4B$22.3B2AB3.BA.A5.ABAB$20.4BABA3B.B2A5.B2AB$3.B4.BABA2B.B
2.5BA8B6.3BA$.3BA4BA2BA10BA2BA5B5.4B$.4B2A5B2A5B.3BA7B5.4B$2A8BA3B2A 8BABA3B5.4B$2AB.8B2A11B2AB6.4B$.B4.3BA2BA8BAB10.4B$8.BABA2B3.5B2A8.4B
$21.2A2B.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A$22.35BA3BA$23.39BA$24.33BA4BA$25.33B5A$26.35B$13.A5B6.3B.2B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$6.B4.4A6B4.
4B$5.2AB.BABAB2A7B.5B$5.2A2BA2BAB3A12B$6.4BABAB2A13B$6.5B4A14B$8.B4.A 5B4.3BA3B$23.2B3A2B$23.B5AB$23.ABABABA$23.2A3B2A$23.7B$24.5B$24.2BA2B
$25.ABAB$25.ABAB$26.A3B$25.2A2B$24.B2A2B$25.2A!
But here's a smaller one by David Eppstein from the previous millennium (if you count 2000 as the last year of the thousand years, like you're officially supposed to):

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#C p120 MWSS gun
#C David Eppstein, 5 March 2000
x = 56, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$21bobo$9bo12b3o$6b4o3b2o8b3o6b2o$5b4o3b2o8b3o7b2o$5bo2bo3b2obob 2o2bobo$5b4o4bobob2o2b2o$6b4o3bob2o$9bo4$51b5o$50bo4bo$31bo23bo$2b3o
11b2o12b2o18bo3bo$bo3bo9b3o12bobo19bo$o5bo5bob2o5b2o$o5bo5bo2bo4bo2b2o 22bo$3bo8bob2o4b2ob2o22b3o$bo3bo9b3o3b3o26bo$2b3o11b2o31b2o$3bo18b3o 13b2o$38b2o$21bobobo$2b2o11b2o2b3obob3o$2b2o11bo2bo5bo3bo$9bo6b2obob2o
2b2obo4b2o14b2o3b2o$8b3o6bob2o2b2o2bo6b2o13b2o3b2o$7b5o5bo4bo2b2o6bo
12bo3b5o$6b2o3b2o3b2obobo2bo20b2o4bobo$15bo2b2ob4o20bobo$15b2o3bo30b3o$10bo9bobo$10bo10b2o3bo$26b2o$6b2o17bobo$7bo42bo$4b3o42bobo$4bo43bo3bo
$10bo7bo30b3o$8bobo5b4o27b2o3b2o$2o4b2o8b2o2bo2b2o$2o4b2o11b2o2b2o$6b 2o7bo10b2o$8bobo4bo10b3o11b2o$10bo4bo10b2o12b2o4b4o$23b2o12b2o6b6o$23b 2o11b3o5bo3b2obo$37b2o6bo5bo$40b2o8bo$40b2o!
... which can be made less square and more exciting by modern technology, but it doesn't actually improve the bounding box:

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x = 72, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$21b2o$8bo4bo10b2o$6bobo4bo10b3o5b2o$4b2o7bo10b2o6b2o$4b2o11b2o2b 2o$4b2o8b2o2bo2b2o$6bobo5b4o$8bo7bo4$67b5o$66bo4bo$2b3o66bo$bo3bo10bo
49bo3bo$o5bo6b4o5bo45bo$2obob2o5b4o5b3o$12bo2bo4bob2o$12b4o3b2o2b2o31b
3o$3bo9b4o3b5o30bo3bo$2bobo11bo3b2o2bo13bo15b2obobo$2bobo32b2o15bo4bo$
3bo33bobo12b2ob4ob3o$21b2ob2o25b2obo4bo3bo$2b2o11b2o2b3obob3o22bo3bob
2obobobo$2b2o5bo5bo2bo4bo4bo21bobobob2obo3bo5b2o$8b3o5b2obob2o2b2obo
21bo3bo4bob2o6b2o$7b5o5bobo3b2o2bo23b3ob4ob2o$6bobobobo4bobob2o2b2o27b
o4bo7b4o$6b2o3b2o3b2obo4bo29bobob2o7bo3bo$15bo2b2ob4o29bo3bo10bobo$15b 2o3bo34b3o10b3o$20bobo$21b2o45b3o$53b2o9bo3bo2bo$6b2o44b4o7bobo4b2o$7b
o39bobo2bo2b3o5b2obo$4b3o39bo2bo2b2o9b2ob2o$4bo32b2o6b2o9bo6b2obo$37b 2o4b2o3bo8bo5bobo$45b2o10bo6bo$46bo2bo$47bobo!
If there are other cleverer ways to fit old and new pieces together to get a smaller bounding box, I'm not finding them:

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x = 73, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
41.B4.B2A3B$5.A.2A.3B26.8BA2BA3B$5.2A.A5B25.5A7BA4B2.B.BABA2B$10.5B 23.A5BA6BA7BA3BA4B$11.4B23.A2B.2A7BA2B.4BA10B$12.4B23.A4.3BA2BA7BA4BA 6B$.A2BA2.B.A2B.4B29.B2A10BA10B$.3BA.3BA2B2A10B27.8BA3BA6B.2A$A7BA5BA
10B25.ABA5B2.BABA2B.2BA2.A$2A7BABA2B2A9B24.B2AB4.B10.B3A$.B.3BA2BA3B
2A10B23.3BA4.4B8.B$3.A2BA4B3A13B20.4B5.3A3B7.3A$4.2A7B2.13B18.4B4.BA
3BA3B7.A.A$4.8B6.10B17.4B5.BABAB2AB.B4.A3.A$6.7B7.7B17.4B4.2B.AB.2BA.
3B3.4A$5.10B6.8B14.4B5.3A.4A.2A2B$5.13B2.7B2A13.4B4.BA3BA4.AB2A2B4.2A
$6.21B2AB11.4B4.2BABA.A.2A.A3BAB4.2A$8.22B.B8.4B6.BA3BA.2A.A.ABA2B$8. 16B2A5B2A6.4B7.2B2ABA4.A3BAB$8.16B2A5B2A5.4B9.2B2A.4A.3A$9.18B.4B5.4B 10.3B.A2B.BA.2B$16.4B.3B.B2.4B4.4B12.B.B2ABABAB$17.BABA14.ABAB14.3BA 3BAB$18.B2AB12.B2AB16.3B3A$19.A3B8.B.3BA19.4B$20.4B8.4B22.B$21.4B.4B. 5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.3B.B.B.B.B.A.B$22.45BA3BAB$23.49BA$24.43BA4BA$25.43B5A$26.47B$13.3B2AB6.6B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B. B$6.B4.3BA2BA3B4.2A2B$5.2AB.4BA7B2A.3BAB$5.2A6BA6BA6BAB$6.7BA7B6A2B$
6.8BA2BA11B$8.B4.3B2AB4.7B$23.7B$23.2A3B2A$23.B5AB$23.B2AB2AB$23.B2AB
2AB$24.B3AB$24.5B$25.4B$25.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.B2A2B$25.2A!

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x = 55, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A3.2A$7.A.A.A2.A.2A$9.A.2A.A.2A$4.4B2A.A2.A$4.7B2.2A$3.6B$3.5B10.B
$2.7B7.BA2B$2.7B5.B2A3B22.B2A.2A.A$2.7B4.B3A4BA19.BABABA.2A$2.2B3A2B
3.B.B2A2BA2B18.3BAB$2.BA3BAB2.BAB.2BA.2B.BA16.4B$2.A5BA2.3AB.4A.3B15.
4B$3.A3BA2.B3ABA4.ABA3B12.4B.3B.B2.4B$2.2B3AB2.A3B2A.2A.A.5B4.18B.4B$3.B3A7B.A.2A.2A3BA4.16B2A5B2A$3.6B.3BABA4.AB3AB4.16B2A5B2A$2.7B3.3B. 4A.B3A5.22B.B$2.2B.4B3.AB.2B.A2B.BAB3.21B2AB$.8B5.2BA2B2AB.B3.13B2.7B 2A$.B3A5B4.A4B3AB3.11B6.8B$B2AB2A3BAB5.3B2AB4.9B7.7B$B2AB2AB.2B2A4.2B
AB6.8B6.10B$B5AB2.2A2B4.B7.B2A7B2.2B3AB3A4B$2A3B2A3.4B11.B2A10B4ABA2B
A2B$7B4.4B8.B.12BABA7B$7B5.4B6.2A5B2A15BA$.5B7.4B5.2A5B2A8B3A5B$.5B8.
4B5.4B.12B2A2B2A$.2A2B10.4B4.4B2.B.3B.4B$.4B11.4B14.4B$4B13.4B12.4B$.
4B13.4B8.B.4B$.2B2AB13.4B8.4B$3.2A15.4B.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$21. 34B$22.2BA25B5A$23.2B2A22BA4BA$24.2A28BA$25.24BA3BAB$12.4B2A6.6B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A.B$5.B4.5BA3BA4.BA2B$4.2AB.6BA5BAB.BABAB$4.2A8BA3BAB 2A2BABAB$5.9BA5BA4BA2B$5.10BA3BA8B$7.B4.4B2A4.7B$22.2A3B2A$22.A5BA$22.7B$22.BA3BAB$22.2B3A2B$23.5B$23.5B$24.4B$24.4B$25.4B$24.4B$23.B2A
2B$24.2A! EDIT: Hmm, I wasn't trying very hard, obviously. Silly of me to even try using that p60, anyway, when a p30 works just as well with Paul's mechanism. pcallahan Posts: 463 Joined: April 26th, 2013, 1:04 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Thanks! The one with the small p120 seems to have the smallest population and the fewest exotic components, so I'm going with that. Jormungant Posts: 130 Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries dvgrn wrote:If there are other cleverer ways to fit old and new pieces together to get a smaller bounding box, I'm not finding them: Assuming you posted the smallest p120 gun you could find, why did this one not show up? (am I missing something?) Code: Select all x = 50, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory 7.2A3.2A$7.A.A.A2.A.2A$9.A.2A.A.2A$4.4B2A.A2.AB21.3B.2A.A$4.7B2.2A21. 5BA.2A$3.6B26.5B$3.5B27.4B$2.7B7.2B16.4B$2.7B5.B18.4B.3B.B2.4B$2.2A3B
2A4.2B6.B4.18B.4B$2.B5AB3.B.B10.16B2A5B2A$2.B2AB2AB2.3B11.16B2A5B2A$2.B2AB2AB2.4B10.17BA4B.B$3.B3AB2.2B11.24B$2.6B14.13B2.2B2A3BAB$3.7B5.
3B3.11B6.A2BA4B$3.6B6.3B3.9B7.A3BA2B$2.7B7.2B3.8B6.6BA3B$2.2B.4B4.B6. B2A7B2.6BA5BA$.8B4.2B5.B2A16BA2B2A$.8BA4.2B2.B.14BA5BAB$3BA3BABAB6.2A
5B2A8BABA5B$2B3A2B.2A2B4.B2A5B2A8B2A6B$B5AB2.4B4.5B.18B$ABABABA3.4B4. 4B2.B.3B.4B$2A3B2A4.4B14.4B$7B5.4B12.4B$.5B7.3BA8.B.4B$.2BA2B8.3BA8. 4B$.BABAB9.3AB.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$.BABAB10.34B$3BA3B10.33B$.B 2A2B12.32B$.B2A2B13.31B$2.2A16.30B$7.2A4B6.6B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
$5.A3BA5B4.4B$3.BA5BA6B.5B$2.B2ABA3BA12B$3B2A5BA12B$2AB2A4BA13B$A.BAB
A.2A4B4.2B3A2B$.3AB12.BA3BAB$4.B6.B.B3.7B$.3A7.2B4.A5BA$A.A7.2B5.2A3B
2A$A3.A3.2B7.7B$.4A3.3B7.5B$3.B13.6B$.2A4.B3.2A2.BA6B$.2A4.B2.BA2.A.B A5B$8.2A.A.2A.A3.4B$8.2A.A2.A.A.A$12.2A3.2A!

In fact, it could be made even smaller, but I do not know if there is a better eater available to gain 1 more row:

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x = 66, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A3.2A$11.A.A.A2.A.2A17.B2A.2A.A$13.A.2A.A.2A16.BABABA.2A$8.4B2A.A 2.AB17.3BAB$8.3A4B2.2A18.4B$7.B3A2B5.2B16.4B$7.A3BA4.B18.4B.3B.B2.4B$6.A5BA2.2B3.2B.B4.18B.4B$6.BA3BAB.B.B.B8.16B2A5B2A$6.2B3A5B.2B8.5B3A 8B2A5B2A$6.11B.B8.7BA14B.B$6.8B.3B7.B4A3BA12B2AB$6.7B2.4B5.B2A10B2.7B
2A$7.5B2.2B.3B3.B2ABA2BA3B6.8B$6.BABA2B5.3B3.2BABAB2AB7.7B$7.A2BA3B4. 4B.B4ABAB6.10B$7.2B2ABA2.B3.4B3AB2A3B2.13B$6.7B2.2B3.3B2A21B$6.2B.A3B
3.2B2.B.22B$5.4BAB2A4.2B2A5B2A16B$5.5BA3B4.B2A5B2A16B$4.11B4.5B.18B$
4.7B.4B4.4B2.B.3B.4B$2.2B2A3B2A2.4B14.4B$2.3B5AB3.4B12.4B$3.2B2AB2AB 4.3BA8.B.4B$4.B2AB2AB5.ABAB8.4B$5.B3AB7.2A2B.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B. B.B.B.B.B$5.5B8.6B3A33B5.B$6.3B10.4B5A32B4.2B$4.4B12.3B3AB2A31B4.2B$4.2A.B13.5B2A32B4.2B$5.A16.38B4.2B$2.3A4.A5B6.6B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B. B.B.B.B.B.B5.2B$2.A4.BABA6B4.4B39.B$6.2A3BA7B.B2A2B$5.B2A3BA13B$2.3B. 2A3BA13B$3.2A.2BABA14B$2.A.A2.B.A5B4.7B$2.AB.2B12.2B3A2B$.2AB.2B6.B.B 3.BA3BAB$.3B.3B5.2B4.A5BA$.2B3.2B4.2B5.2ABAB2A$3B3.3B.2B7.7B$3B3.3B. 3B7.5B$.2B3.2B11.6B$.2B3.2B.B3.2A2.ABA5B$2.2B2.B2.B2.BA2.A.2A5B$2.B3. B3.2A.A.2A.A3.4B$10.2A.A2.A.A.A$14.2A3.2A$4.B8$11.2A3.2A$11.A.A.A2.A.
2A17.B2A.2A.A$13.A.2A.A.2A16.BABABA.2A$8.4B2A.A2.AB17.3BAB$8.3A4B2.2A 18.4B$7.B3A2B5.2B16.4B$7.A3BA4.B18.4B.3B.B2.4B$6.A5BA2.2B3.2B.B4.18B.
4B$6.BA3BAB.B.B.B8.16B2A5B2A$6.2B3A5B.2B8.5B3A8B2A5B2A$6.11B.B8.7BA 14B.B$6.8B.3B7.B4A3BA12B2AB$6.7B2.4B5.B2A10B2.7B2A$7.5B2.2B.3B3.B2ABA
2BA3B6.8B$6.BABA2B5.3B3.2BABAB2AB7.7B$7.A2BA3B4.4B.B4ABAB6.10B$7.2B2A BA2.B3.4B3AB2A3B2.13B$6.7B2.2B3.3B2A21B$6.2B.A3B3.2B2.B.22B$5.4BAB2A
4.2B2A5B2A16B$5.5BA3B4.B2A5B2A16B$4.11B4.5B.18B$4.7B.4B4.4B2.B.3B.4B$
2.2B2A3B2A2.4B14.4B$2.3B5AB3.4B12.4B$3.2B2AB2AB4.3BA8.B.4B$4.B2AB2AB 5.ABAB8.4B$5.B3AB7.2A2B.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$5.5B8.6B3A25B$6.3B
10.4B5A24B$4.4B12.3B3AB2A23B$4.2A.B13.5B2A24B$5.A16.30B$2.3A4.A5B6.6B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$2.A4.BABA6B4.4B$6.2A3BA7B.B2A2B$5.B2A3BA13B$
2.3B.2A3BA13B$3.3A2BABA14B$3.3A.B.A5B4.7B$2.2BA2B12.2B3A2B$2.2BA2B6.B
.B3.BA3BAB$.3BA3B5.2B4.A5BA$.2BABA2B4.2B5.2ABAB2A$9B.2B7.7B$9B.3B7.5B
$.2BABA2B11.6B$.3BA3B.B3.2A2.ABA5B$2.2BA2B2.B2.BA2.A.2A5B$2.2BA2B3.2A
.A.2A.A3.4B$3.3A4.2A.A2.A.A.A$3.3A8.2A3.2A$4.B!  well well, I just remindered about the p3 eater trick, so that works: Code: Select all x = 50, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory 9.2A3.2A$9.A.A.A2.A.2A17.B2A.2A.A$11.A.2A.A.2A16.BABABA.2A$6.4B2A.A2.
AB17.3BAB$6.7B2.2A18.4B$5.6B23.4B$5.5B23.4B.3B.B2.4B$4.7B7.2B.B4.B2AB
2A12B.4B$4.7B5.B8.2A4BA9B2A5B2A$4.10B.2B8.7B2A7B2A5B2A$4.2B3A6B.B8.A 4BAB2A13B.B$4.BA3BA2B.3B7.3B2A2BAB2A10B2AB$4.A5BA2.4B5.5BA2BA4B2.7B2A$5.A3BA2.2B.3B3.11B6.8B$4.2B3AB5.3B3.9B7.7B$5.B3A3B4.4B.8B6.10B$5.6B 2.B3.4B2A7B2.13B$4.7B2.2B3.3B2A21B$4.2B.4B3.2B2.B.22B$3.8B4.2B2A5B2A
16B$3.B3A5B4.B2A5B2A16B$2.B2AB2A3BAB4.5B.18B$2.B2AB2AB.2B2A4.4B2.B.3B .4B$2.B5AB2.2A2B4.2B8.4B2.B$2.2A3B2A3.4B4.B7.4B$2.7B4.4B8.B.4B$2.7B5. 4B8.4B$3.5B7.4B.4B.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$3.5B8.34B$3.5B9.BABA2BABA
24B$2.6B10.B2A2B2A25B$2.2A5B10.A4BA25B$3.A4B12.30B$3AB2.6BA6.6B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$A4.6BABAB4.BA2B$3.7BA3B2AB.BABAB$2.8BA3B2A3BABAB$
3.7BA3B2A4BA2B$.2AB.6BABA9B$A.AB.B.5BA4.7B$BA15.2ABAB2A$.2A8.B.B3.A5B
A$.B3A6.2B4.BA3BAB16.2A$.BA.BA4.2B5.2B3A2B16.A$2.A.2B2.2B7.7B4.5BA4.A .A$.3A.A3B2A7.14BABA3.2A$A5.2A2B.A6.13BA3B2A$2A5.2BA.A3.B14.BA3B2A$7. B.B.2A17.BA3B2A$8.A.A2.A16.2BABA$8.2A2.2A16.3BA!  Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1621 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Jormungant wrote:Assuming you posted the smallest p120 gun you could find, why did this one not show up? (am I missing something?) A few classic tricks can reduce the bounding box further: Code: Select all x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3/S23 19bo21b2obo$19bobo19bob2o$20bobo4b2o$20bo2bo3b2o$20bobo$19bobo$19bo$
41b2o5b2o$6b3o32b2o5b2o$5bo3bo$4bo5bo33b2o$4bo5bo33b2o$7bo$5bo3bo$6b3o$7bo13b2o11b3ob3o$21b2o10b4obo2bo$32bobo$4b3o10b2o5b2o15bo$4b3o10b2o5b
2o8b3o$3bo3bo27b2o2b2o$11bobo$2b2o3b2o3b2o$12bo5$19bo25b5o$20b2o22bo4b
o$2b2o15b2o28bo$3bo40bo3bo$3o8b2o33bo$o9bo3bo5bo$9bo5bo3bobo$9bo3bob2o
2bobo$9bo5bo4bo$b2o7bo3bo$obo8b2o$o16b2o3b2o$17bo5bo$b3obo5b2o$4bo2bob 4o5bo3bo$4bob2o2bobo6b3o10b2o$b3o2bo24bo3bo$o5bobo21bo5bo$2o5b2o21bo3b ob2o2b2o$30bo5bo3b2o$31bo3bo$32b2o!
However, Paul did say
pcallahan wrote:The one with the small p120 seems to have the smallest population and the fewest exotic components, so I'm going with that.
so I suspect minimizing the bounding box is not his goal. Even so, your glider gun reorientation does reduce the bounding box of the "simple" gun a bit:

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x = 51, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o2$41bo$39b3o$38bo$38b2o$5b3o$4b2ob2o$4b2ob2o$4b5o$3b2o3b2o32b
2o5b2o$42b2o5b2o2$5b2o38b2o$4b5o36b2o$4bo$6b3o$8bo$6b2o14b2o11b3ob3o$
6b2o14b2o10b4obo2bo$33bobo$18b2o5b2o15bo$b2o3b2o10b2o5b2o8b3o$bobobobo
28b2o2b2o$2b5o5bobo$3b3o7b2o$4bo8bo5$20bo25b5o$21b2o22bo4bo$3b2o15b2o
28bo$3b2o40bo3bo$12b2o33bo$11bo3bo5bo$2o8bo5bo3bobo$2o8bo3bob2o2bobo$
10bo5bo4bo$11bo3bo$12b2o$18b2o3b2o$18bo5bo2$19bo3bo$20b3o7$20b2o$20b2o
!
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Sokwe wrote:so I suspect minimizing the bounding box is not his goal.
Correct. I'm working on simplifying my ancient extensible delay loop in the "components and contraptions" thread. It is much smaller than I ever imagined it being at time. I want a small, compact gun, but some of my criteria are more subjective.

With the latest minimization, a p120 recirculating MWSS loop seems small enough to consider in a design even if you're not looking to expand the size. Non-destructive reads become trivial and you get two streams of bit output for free.

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x = 249, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o2$41bo$39b3o$38bo187b2o$38b2o186b2o3$229bo$228bo$42b2o5b2o
177bo$3b2o3b2o32b2o5b2o$5b3o$4bo3bo36b2o177b2o3b2o$5bobo37b2o180bo$6bo 217bo5bo$206b3o16b2ob2o$208bo17bobo9b2o$22b2o183bo19bo9bobo$22b2o12bo 190bo8b3o4b2o$3b3o30bobo8bo187b3o4bo2b4o$9bobo6b2o5b2o9b3o8b3o186b3o4b 2ob3o$3bobo4b2o6b2o5b2o11bo11bo186bobo$2b5o3bo38b2o6bo180b2o$b2o3b2o
47bo3bo184b2o$b2o3b2o46bo187bo2bo$54bo4bo$54b5o182bo$4bo12bo202b2o8b2o
$5b2o11b2o201b2o6b2o11b2o$17b2o201bo10bo12bo$7bo32b5o55b5o$39bo4bo54bo
4bo$3bo2bo37bo59bo136b2o3b2o$3b2o34bo3bo55bo3bo137b2o3b2o$9b2o30bo59bo 96b2o38bo3b5o$9bobo186bo23b2o5b2o6b2o4bobo$3ob2o4b3o186b3o20b2o5b2o6bo bo$4o2bo4b3o187bo41b3o$4b2o4b3o8bo203b2o$9bobo9bo203b2o$9b2o9bobo$19b
2ob2o$18bo5bo217bo$21bo180b2o37bobo$18b2o3b2o177b2o12bo23bo3bo$216bobo
22b3o$198b2o5b2o9b3o20b2o3b2o$20bo177b2o5b2o11bo$20bo$19bo3$21b2o186b 2o$21b2o187bo$207b3o$207bo2$242b2o$242b2o!


ADDED: is there any reason not to do this at p60? I forget why I settled on p120. Sorry, not thinking clearly this morning. I assume p120 is to match the streams coming back from the best puffers I knew of at the time.

ADDED: Hmm... OK, at p60 the MWSSs don't always pass each others, sometimes they mutually annihilate. I wonder if this could be a natural computer for some linear congruential generator. I can't figure out the dynamics just looking. It may be less interesting than that and just filter it down to a p120 stream with gaps.

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x = 253, y = 93, rule = B3/S23
43b2o$43b2o2$57b2o$57b2o6$57bo$56b3o$41b5o10b3o$40bob3obo$41bo3bo8b2o
3b2o$42b3o9b2o3b2o$43bo2$57b2o$56bobo$41bo13b2o2bo$41bo14b2o168b2o$40b obo5bo7b2o168b2o$39b2ob2o2bobo7bo$38bo5bo2b2o$41bo14bo5bo$38b2o3b2o11b o5bo$51b2o4bo3bo164bo$51b2o5b3o163b2ob2o2$223bo5bo2$38b2o183b2obob2o$
39bo$33b2ob3o4bo191b2o$34bobo5bo18b2o164b4o4b2o$34bo7b3o16bo164b6o6b2o$24bo7bobo27b3o160bob2o3bo5b3o5b2o$24b4o4b2o30b3o158bo5bo6b2o6b2o$8bo
16b4o38bo157b2o8b2o$7bobo5b2o8bo2bo37b2o157bobo7b2o$5b2o3bo14b4o195b3o
$2o3b2o3bo4bobob2o3b4o77b2o58b2o28b2o25b2o2b2o$2o3b2o3bo5b2o3bo2bo79b
2ob3o54b2ob3o24b2ob3o22b2o2b2o$7bobo10bo84b5o55b5o25b5o22b2o2b2o$8bo8b
o2bo85b3o57b3o27b3o2$54b3o27b3o145bo2bo8bo$25b2o2b2o22b5o25b5o144bo10b
obo$25b2o2b2o22b3ob2o24b3ob2o139bo2bo3b2o5bo3b2o3b2o$25b2o2b2o25b2o28b
2o137b4o3b2obobo4bo3b2o3b2o$26b3o195b4o14bo3b2o$16b2o7bobo157b2o37bo2b
o8b2o5bobo$16b2o8b2o157bo38b4o16bo$5b2o6b2o6bo5bo158b3o30b2o4b4o$5b2o 5b3o5bo3b2obo160b3o27bobo7bo$13b2o6b6o164bo16b3o7bo$16b2o4b4o164b2o18b o5bobo$16b2o191bo4b3ob2o$213bo$23b2obob2o183b2o2$23bo5bo2$24b2ob2o163b
3o5b2o$26bo164bo3bo4b2o$190bo5bo11b2o3b2o$190bo5bo14bo$204b2o2bo5bo$196bo7bobo2b2ob2o$25b2o168b2o7bo5bobo$25b2o168b2o14bo$193bo2b2o13bo$194bobo$194b2o2$209bo$192b2o3b2o9b3o$192b2o3b2o8bo3bo$206bob3obo$194b 3o10b5o$194b3o$195bo6$194b2o$194b2o2$208b2o$208b2o! Last edited by pcallahan on April 13th, 2019, 12:19 pm, edited 1 time in total. Jormungant Posts: 130 Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries On a related note, I have been wondering for a while if one can fit that spark in there, I know that one can make a p60 HWSS this way, but not sure about p30... (the one p30 HWSS is quite ugly/bulky). Of course one can undo that funky queen bee welding. Code: Select all x = 56, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory 2$29.A$13.A14.A.A$13.3A13.2A$16.A$15.2A$26.C.3A$28.3A$27.A3.A$27.2A.
2A2$15.2A3.2A$15.2A3.2A$16.5A$16.BABAB2.2A$17.3B2.ABA$17.3A2.B.A$23.B 21.2A$33.2A9.A3BA$33.ABA7.A2B.2BA$4.A5.2A13.ABAB4.A.B7.A2B.A2BA$2.A3B A3.3AB9.A3BAB5.B8.A2B.4B$2.4BA5.2ABA7.A3B17.A3BA.2BA$.A.B3.A4.A2BA6.A B2.BA17.2A3.2A.A$.2A2.2B5.2ABA7.A3B26.A$2.B7.3AB9.A3BAB24.2A$10.2A13.
ABAB4$34.2B3.2B$34.B5AB$34.AB3ABA$35.A3BA$36.3A$37.A4$36.2A$36.2A!


christoph r.
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This mwss-constructor is doubtless known.

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
$bo4bo$2b2obo$b2o2b3o2$5b2o!

The two cells can be taken of a hwss.

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
$bo4bo$2b2obo$b2o2b3o2$5b2o$3bo4bo$9bo$3bo5bo$4b6o!

With this pattern you can make every mwss-rake with periods >= 20 and multible of 4 easily.

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x = 82, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
2$62b2o$60b2ob2o13b2o$60b4o13b4o$61b2o14b2ob2o$79b2o$58bo$57b3o$56bob
2o3bo11bo$56bo6bo10b4o$50bo6bo14b5obo$51b2o18bo6b2o$50b2o18bo3bob3o$71bo3b3o$72bo$45bo$46b2o30b2o$45b2o22b4o4b4o$61bo2bo3bo3bo4b2ob2o$65bo 6bo6b2o$40bo20bo3bo2bo2bo$41b2o19b4o$40b2o2$57b2o$35bo12b4o4b4o$36b2o 9bo3bo4b2ob2o$35b2o14bo6b2o$47bo2bo$54bo$30bo21bo$31b2o7bo11bo2b2o$30b 2o9bo9bo5bo$40b3o9bobo2b2o$40b3o9bo3b2o$25bo10b5ob3o9b3o$26b2o9b3o3b2o$25b2o11bo$57b2o$56b4o$20bo4bo13b2o15b2ob2o$2b5o14b2obo13b4o16b2o$2bo 4bo12b2o2b3o11b2ob2o$2bo37b2o$3bo3bo16b2o$5bo16bo4bo$28bo$22bo5bo$23b 6o!  Because the rake is flat on one side, you can combine it to a nearby double rake. Code: Select all x = 80, y = 94, rule = B3/S23 60b2o$58b2ob2o13b2o$58b4o13b4o$59b2o14b2ob2o$77b2o$56bo$55b3o$54bob2o
3bo11bo$54bo6bo10b4o$48bo6bo14b5obo$49b2o18bo6b2o$48b2o18bo3bob3o$69bo 3b3o$70bo$43bo$44b2o30b2o$43b2o22b4o4b4o$59bo2bo3bo3bo4b2ob2o$63bo6bo 6b2o$38bo20bo3bo2bo2bo$39b2o19b4o$38b2o2$55b2o$33bo12b4o4b4o$34b2o9bo 3bo4b2ob2o$33b2o14bo6b2o$45bo2bo$52bo$28bo21bo$29b2o7bo11bo2b2o$28b2o 9bo9bo5bo$38b3o9bobo2b2o$38b3o9bo3b2o$23bo10b5ob3o9b3o$24b2o9b3o3b2o$
23b2o11bo$55b2o$54b4o$18bo4bo13b2o15b2ob2o$5o14b2obo13b4o16b2o$o4bo12b 2o2b3o11b2ob2o$o37b2o$bo3bo16b2o$3bo16bo4bo$26bo$20bo5bo$21b6o2$37b2o$2b5o29b4o$2bo4bo11bo4b2o10b2ob2o14b2o$2bo16b2o3bobo11b2o14b4o$3bo3bo
10bobo3bo29b2ob2o$5bo50b2o2$24bo$24b2o11bo4b2o$23bobo10b3o3b2o9b2o$35b 2ob2o12bo2bo$34b3ob3o11bo2b2o$29bo4b3ob2o11bo2b2o$29b2o5bobo12b4o$28bo bo2$55b2o$34bo11b4o4b4o$34b2o9bo3bo4b2ob2o$33bobo13bo6b2o$45bo2bo2$39b o19bo2bo$39b2o22bo$38bobo18bo3bo12b2o$60b4o3b4o4b4o$66bo3bo4b2ob2o$44b
o25bo6b2o$44b2o20bo2bo$43bobo27bo$71bo$59bo11bo2b2o$49bo10bo9bo5bo$49b
2o8b3o9bobo2b2o$48bobo8b3o9bo3b2o$55b5ob3o9b3o$56b3o3b2o$57bo$76b2o$
75b4o$75b2ob2o$60b2o15b2o$58b2ob2o$58b4o$59b2o!  Hunting Posts: 1410 Joined: September 11th, 2017, 2:54 am Location: Ponyville, Equestria ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Is it the time to synthesis every n-cell unstable patterns? I know it is pointless to do that, but isn't all-still-life synthesis also useless(except a few which could be used in conduit construction)? I also know there has to be some way to prevent those far-away glider colliding simple object. This post was brought to you by the Element of Magic. Plz correct my grammar mistakes. I'm still studying English. Working on: Nothing. Favorite gun ever: Code: Select all #C Favorite Gun. Found by me. x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!

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Hunting wrote:Is it the time to synthesis every n-cell unstable patterns?

I know it is pointless to do that, but isn't all-still-life synthesis also useless(except a few which could be used in conduit construction)?

I also know there has to be some way to prevent those far-away glider colliding simple object.
Well, you've got Gardens of Eden, which by definition are unsynthesisable, and are also unstable…
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Freywa wrote:
Hunting wrote:Is it the time to synthesis every n-cell unstable patterns?

I know it is pointless to do that, but isn't all-still-life synthesis also useless(except a few which could be used in conduit construction)?

I also know there has to be some way to prevent those far-away glider colliding simple object.
Well, you've got Gardens of Eden, which by definition are unsynthesisable, and are also unstable…
Oh, excluding Gardens of Eden. And sorry, I accidentally posted this in usure discoveries thread instead of basic question thread.
This post was brought to you by the Element of Magic.

Plz correct my grammar mistakes. I'm still studying English.

Working on:

Nothing.

Favorite gun ever:

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#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo! Kazyan Posts: 936 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A spark can extract a glider from Beluchenko's Other p37, in case we ever get a p37 sparker: Code: Select all x = 47, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory 28.A$26.3A$19.3B3.A$17.7B.2A$14.2B.4B5AB$13.2A5B5A$13.2AB.3BA4BAB$14.
B.12B$17.11B$18.ABA7BA3B$14.4B5A5B2A2B$13.3B3ABA2BA7BAB$12.3BABA3B3A 2B.2BABA3B$12.2BA5B3A13B4.2A$11.4BA2BABA12BA3B2.B2AB$9.2B2A3BABAB2A5B
2AB.BABA2B3.3B$9.6B2.2B2A3B2AB2AB.A3BAB2.B.B$9.BABA6B.7B2A5B2AB.6B$2A 7.2A4B3A5B2A6B2A2B3A6B$.A5.8B3A4BABA4B.A5BA8B$.A.AB.6B.17B4AB3A2B2A3B$2.3A.A9BA5BABA6BAB2ABA4B2A2B$4.2A10BAB2AB2AB2ABA5B2ABA4B2AB$3.B2A5B
2A5BA4B.4BA5B2A5B2AB$3.B2A4BAB2A5BAB2AB2AB2ABA10B2A$2.2B2A4BAB2ABA6BA
BA5BA9BA.3A$2.3B2A2B3AB4A17B.6B.BA.A$2.8BA5BA.4BABA4B3A8B5.A$3.6B3A2B 2A6B2A5B3A4B2A7.2A$3.6B.B2A5B2A7B.6BABAB$5.B.B2.BA3BA.B2AB2A3B2A2B2. 6B$4.3B3.2BABAB.B2A5B2ABABA3B2A2B$4.B2AB2.3BA12BABA2BA4B$5.2A4.13B3A
5BA2B$12.3BABA2B.2B3A3BABA3B$14.BA7BA2BAB3A3B$15.2B2A5B5A4B$15.3BA7BA
BA$19.11B$19.12B.B$20.BA4BA3B.B2A$22.5A5B2A$20.B5A4B.2B$20.2A.7B$21.A 3.C5B$18.3A7.4B$18.A10.4B! I think there's about a 50-50 chance that we could construct a true period p37 gun with today's technology; we'd just have to find an over-unity reaction. Tanner Jacobi Gamedziner Posts: 796 Joined: May 30th, 2016, 8:47 pm Location: Milky Way Galaxy: Planet Earth ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Kazyan wrote:A spark can extract a glider from Beluchenko's Other p37, in case we ever get a p37 sparker: (pattern) 180-degree glider turner, same lane: Code: Select all x = 47, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory 28.A$26.3A$19.3B3.A$17.7B.2A$14.2B.5BA4B$13.2A6BABAB$13.2AB.3B2ABABAB$14.B.3B2AB3ABAB$17.2B2AB2A4B$18.3AB2A4BA3B$14.9BABA2BA3B$13.4BA4B2A
3BA2B2AB$12.4BA7BAB.3B2A3B$12.3B2A3BABA13B4.2A$11.5BAB2A5BA11B2.B2AB$
9.2B2A6B2A6BA2B.2BA3B3.3B$9.2B2A2B2.3BA4B3A2B.B3A2B2.B.B$9.10B.5BABA
7BAB.6B$2A7.2A21BA4BA6B$.A5.4BA3B3A5BA5B.B2A4B3A5B$.A.AB.BA4B.3BA5B3A 5B2ABA3B4A4B$2.2AB.A3BA3BAB2A4BA17B2A3B$4.3BA4BA7BA4B2A6BABAB3A2BAB$
3.2B7A7B2A2B.2B2A7B7A2B$3.BA2B3ABABA6B2A4BA7BA4BA3B$2.3B2A17BA4B2ABA
3BA3BA.B2A$2.4B4A3BAB2A5B3A5BA3B.4BAB.BA.A$2.5B3A4B2AB.5BA5B3A3BA4B5.
A$3.6BA4BA21B2A7.2A$3.6B.BA7BABA5B.10B$5.B.B2.2B3AB.2B3A4BA3B2.2B2A2B$4.3B3.3BA2B.2BA6B2A6B2A2B$4.B2AB2.11BA5B2ABA5B$5.2A4.13BABA3B2A3B$12.3B2A3B.BA7BA4B$14.B2A2BA3B2A4BA4B$15.3BA2BABA9B$15.3BA4B2AB3A$19. 4B2AB2A2B$19.BAB3AB2A3B.B$20.BABAB2A3B.B2A$22.BABA6B2A$20.4BA5B.2B$
20.2A.7B$21.A3.4B$18.3A4.3B$18.A5.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.A3B$21.2AB$19.BA.
A$19.2B$18.B.B!

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27. A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!  testitemqlstudop Posts: 1323 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: in catagolue Contact: ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Found how to make land of lakes: Code: Select all x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23 bo$3o$2bo2$4b2o$5b2o$5bo!

Shall I put it into the "familiar fours" section?

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testitemqlstudop wrote:Found how to make land of lakes:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o$2bo2$4b2o$5b2o$5bo!  Shall I put it into the "familiar fours" section? Probably not. It's not four ponds, it's two bi-ponds. Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel mniemiec Posts: 1091 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries testitemqlstudop wrote:Found how to make land of lakes: ... Shall I put it into the "familiar fours" section? Freywa wrote:Probably not. It's not four ponds, it's two bi-ponds. I don't see that as a disqualifying factor, since the fleet and bakery are respective pairs of bi-ships and bi-loaves. A better reason to leave this out is that it's not really familiar; traffic lights, honeyfarms, blockades, fleets, and bakeries come up all the time, all arise multiple times from collisions of 2-3 gliders, and they have been commonly observed for almost half a century. Land of lakes is not nearly as common; besides, it's already mentioned on the Wiki page. The two-glider collision that makes 4 skewed blocks would likely occur much more frequently. EDIT The two R-pentominos rapidly form two fleet predecessors; colliding pairs of R-pentominos or pair of fleets both result in 6-glider syntheses, which is slightly cheaper than making the bi-ponds individually (as the 3-glider synthesis could only be used for one of them). EDIT 2: Two other not-quite-so-familiar fours are the small fleet and small honeyfarm, also from six gliders: Code: Select all x = 76, y = 21, rule = B3/S23 9bo$10boo35bobo$9boo37boo$48bo$$70bo13bo15boo22bo15bobo13bobo13bobo 9bo11bobo13bobo13boo15boo10boo9boo15boobo8bo7bo6boo4boo7boo8bo14boo 5booboo7boo6boo6bobo3bobo15boo13bobbo3bobbobo8bobo5bobo6boo4boo15bob o5boo6boo5boo29boo26boo11bo29bobo27bo9bobo30boo37bobo70bo$$52bo$10boo39boo$9boo40bobo$11bo!  EDIT 3: The Familiar Fours wiki page mentions "4 eaters". I wonder if it means this? Code: Select all x = 154, y = 33, rule = B3/S23 83bo$83bobo$83boo$$45bo39bo44bobo37bobo16bo27bobo37bobo14boo29bo39b o15boo40boo7boo29boo7boo17bo21bobbo5bobbo27bobbo5bobbobbo16boo22b oo7boo29boo7boobbo27bobo11bobo16bobo74b3o11booboo10boo3booboo3boo10b ooboo45bo39bo22bobo11bo5bobo5bo9bobobobo44bobo37bobo18bo7bo11bo7bo 12bo5bo44bobo37bobo18boo5boo11boo5boo11boo5boo33bo11bo27bo11bo32bob o37bobo30boo5boo11boo5boo11boo5boo32bobo37bobo30bo7bo11bo7bo12bo5bo 33bo39bo34bobo11bo5bobo5bo9boboboboobo60b3o41booboo10boo3booboo3boo 10boobooboo25boo7boo26bobboo7boo42bobo11bobobo25bobbo5bobbo24bobbobb o5bobbo28boo7boo29boo7boobboo3boo28bo39bobbo29bobo37bobo32bobo37b obo33bo39bo$$74boo$73bobo$75bo!  dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6267 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mniemiec wrote:The two-glider collision that makes 4 skewed blocks would likely occur much more frequently. Four skewed blocks also already has a link in the Familiar Fours wiki article, as an optional runner-up. mniemiec wrote:EDIT 3: The Familiar Fours wiki page mentions "4 eaters". I wonder if it means this? Code: Select all x = 154, y = 33, rule = B3/S23...  No, the last time that Familiar Fours entry came up, I tracked the "4 eaters" mention back to Dean Hickerson's experiments with Eric Angelini's Life integer patterns: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 5, rule = B3/S23 obob3ob3ob3o$obo3bobobobobo$obob3obobobobo$obo3bobobobobo$obob3ob3ob3o! #C [[ AUTOFIT ]] The LifeWiki article describes those four eaters as belonging to the "less familiar fours". At this point, it really is several decades too late to change the membership list for the original Familiar Fours. If a four-of-the-same-object constellation wasn't well known by 1980 or so, it just plain isn't familiar enough to be one of the Familiar Fours. mow Posts: 1 Joined: May 14th, 2018, 5:41 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries i merge three beehives together in this configuration. it took 2498 generations to stabilize. i try to search it but i couldnt find anything about it. Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S23 b2ob2o$o2bo2bo$b2ob2o$o2bo$b2o! Last edited by mow on July 11th, 2019, 2:04 pm, edited 1 time in total. toroidalet Posts: 1054 Joined: August 7th, 2016, 1:48 pm Location: My computer Contact: ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mow wrote:i merge three beehives together in this configuration. it took 2498 generations to stabilize. i try to search it but i couldnt find anything about it. Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S23 b2ob2o$o2bo2bo$b2ob2o$o2bo$b2o! Welcome to the forums (even though your account is over a year old)! That pattern has probably been discovered before, but small patterns that last that long are generally considered to be uninteresting. Also, please use [c‏‏ode][/code] tags instead of [vie‏wer][/viewer] tags; they take up less space. "Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -Terry Pratchett Jormungant Posts: 130 Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Interaction of p16 with g-to-mwss handles the hive cleanup. Code: Select all x = 149, y = 91, rule = LifeHistory 95.6B$96.6B$36.2A57.6B$36.A2B.2A54.6B$35.B.2B2.A53.6B$35.BA.3A55.6B$35.2ABA2.3A51.6B$29.2A4.2A2.A.A2.A51.6B$28.A2.A3.B4A.2B2A2.A6.2A39.6B$27.A2.A.AB6.BAB2.3A5.A.3A11.2A25.6B$12.2A10.A2.3A.BAB3.B2A.2B2A8.A4. A9.A.A24.6B$12.A11.3A3.3BA3.2A.2A3.A3.A2.2A3.A.B.A.2AB2.A27.6B$.2A11. A12.BA.ABA4.2A.B.3A3.A.A5.A.2A7B2A26.6B$.A.A9.2A2.A2.A3.3AB.B8.2A2BA
5.A.7A3.4BABA29.6B$3.A2.2AB.B.A2.6A3.A2.BA7.AB.B.B7.A3.B3.AB3AB.BA.2A 26.6B$3.4A2B6A10.2AB.A6.2B.BA10.AB.B2A.BAB.4ABA.A26.6B$5.BABA3B3.8A3. 3B.2B4.2A.BAB8.2A.BA.2AB3.A7.A24.6B$3.2A.2A.3B3A3.B3.A4.ABA.AB2.BA.2B
A7.2BA.3BABA5.7A26.6B$2.A.2A2B2A.A2B.B2A.BA7.AB3A2.BABA9.2B3AB2AB2A5. A2.A27.6B$.A7.B3.3B.AB.2A7.B.2B3.AB4.3B.BA2B2AB.3A3B2.A33.6B$2.7A5.AB 4A.2BA7.2B6.7BA3BAB.BA3.BA2.2A31.6B$4.A2.A5.BA3B3A3B8.BA3.BA3BA2B3AB.
A.A2.4A37.6B$9.A2.3A2BA.5BAB.3B.BAB2.A5BA2B3AB2A2B2A40.6B$8.2A2.AB3.A
B.BAB2A3BA3BA2BA.5BA2B3AB.A.A2.4A37.6B$13.4A2.A.A.2A2BABA5BABA8BA3BAB .BA3.BA2.2A31.6B$17.4A2B2A5BA3B2ABAB2A.3B.BA2B2AB.3A3B2.A33.6B$13.4A 2.A.A.2A2BABA9B9.2B3AB2AB2A5.A2.A27.6B$8.2A2.AB3.AB.BAB2A3BA5B2.4B8.
2BA.3BABA5.7A26.6B$9.A2.3A2BA.5BAB.3B.3B3.BABA9.2A.BA.2AB3.A7.A24.6B$
4.A2.A5.BA3B3A3B7.B6.B2AB9.AB.B2A.BAB.4ABA.A26.6B$2.7A5.AB4A.2BA7.B7. A3B6.A3.B3.AB3AB.BA.2A26.6B$.A7.B3.3B.AB.2A8.3A7.4B4.A.7A3.4BABA29.6B
$2.A.2A2B2A.A2B.B2A.BA7.A.B2A8.4B3.A.A5.A.2A7B2A26.2B3AB$3.2A.2A.3B3A
3.B3.A5.3AB10.BABA3.A2.2A3.A.B.A.2AB2.A27.BA2BAB$5.BABA3B3.8A3.2A3.2A 10.B2AB6.A4.A9.A.A24.2BA3B$3.4A2B6A10.A2.5A11.A3B5.A.3A11.2A25.BA3BA$3.A2.2AB.B.A2.6A4.2A.A.A4.B5.B.6B5.2A5.2A32.2BA3B$.A.A9.2A2.A2.A7.A5.
3B3.10B10.BA2BA31.2BABAB$.2A11.A13.2A2.4BA3.A7BABA10.4B30.6B$12.A18.
4BA.A.A.A4B2.B2AB9.A2BA31.6B$12.2A17.5B2A.2A5B3.A3B7.A2BA31.6B$31.7B.
7B4.4B6.ABAB32.6B$31.2B3A2B.2B3A2B5.4B4.2BAB32.6B$31.BA4BA.A4BAB6.BAB
A3.4B33.6B$31.A5BA.A5BA7.B2A2B.2B2AB31.6B$31.BA4BA.A4BAB8.A4B2.2A33.
6B$31.B2A2B.A.A.2B2AB9.4B10.A16.4B3.8B$32.5B3.5B11.4B7.3A17.3B4.8B$34.3A3.3A14.4B5.A21.2B5.6B$35.B5.B16.4B4.2A19.3B6.6B$51.2A6.9B17.6B4. 7B$52.A7.6B13.4B2.7B3.8B$52.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.11B3A13B$53.A2.A4.27B3A
14B$54.2AB3.28B2A5B2A9B$55.5B2A21B2A3B2A4BA2B2A8B$56.6BA2B2A16B2A3B2A B5A2BA8B$57.BA5BA26B3A4BA9B2.2A3.2A5.2B$57.A2BA2B2A3BA5B.B5.6BA2BA2B 5A12B2AB2.ABA2.6B$58.5BA5BA3B10.B2.2B3A3B2A16B4.BA3BA4B$58.A10BA3B13. 19B.10B.2B2A4B2A$59.A7B2A3B14.17B4.9BA3B2A3B2A$61.5B2A6B12.18B4.BABA 2B.BABA5B.B$60.BA6B4.2A.A11.5B.11B4.2B2A5B3A4B$60.2AB2AB6.2AB3A9.4B2. 12B4.BA2BAB2.4B.2B$60.2AB2A8.B4.A15.4B.2BA3B4.3B2A2B2.B.4B.2A$60.B.A 9.2A.3A21.BABA2B3.2A3BAB5.B2A.2BA$61.2AB9.A.A24.2A2B3.A2B.2AB5.BA3B2A
$60.B2AB9.A.A26.B4.2A.4B.B2.2B2A3B$61.2A11.A35.2B.4B2.BA2BAB$110.4B3A 5B2A2B$108.B.5BABAB.2BABAB$107.2A3B2A3BA9B$107.2A4B2A2B.9B$108.4BA3BA B4.4B$108.6B2.ABA2.B2A2B$110.2B5.2A3.2A!  this makes p400+16X gun Code: Select all x = 110, y = 80, rule = LifeHistory 5B72.6B19.6B$4B74.6B17.6B$5B72.6B19.6B$4B74.6B17.6B$5B72.6B19.6B$4B
74.6B17.6B$5B22.2A3.2A43.2B3AB19.6B$4B19.4B2A2.A.3A42.BA2BAB17.6B$5B 17.6B3.A4.A40.2BA3B19.6B$4B23.4A.2A2.A41.BA3BA$5B22.A2.A.A.A.2A39.2BA 3B$4B25.BABABA.A41.2BABAB$5B25.B2ABA.A40.6B$4B27.2B.BA42.6B$5B25.3B3. 2B39.6B$4B17.2A6.4B2.3B40.6B$5B17.A6.B2A2BD3B39.6B$4B18.A.AB3.B2ABDBD
B41.6B$5B18.2AB.5BD3BD40.6B$25.9BD2BD40.6B$5B20.8BDBD2BDB37.6B$6B18.
8BD3B2DBDB37.6B$5B2.B15.12B2.4B10.A16.4B3.8B$6B16.4B.7B4.D3B7.3A17.3B
4.8B$5B2.B13.4B.9B4.4B5.A21.2B5.6B$6B.B12.4B.4B4.2A5.4B4.2A19.3B6.6B$10B9.4B.4B5.A7.9B17.6B4.7B$3.BAB12.4B.4B7.3A5.6B13.4B2.7B3.8B$.2BABA 11.4B.4B11.A5.6B3.B2.2B2.27B$.BA3BA10.3B.4B9.2AB.A4.44B$2.BA2B.A9.2B. 4B9.A2.2AB3.46B$4.A.2BAB6.2B.4B10.2A2.14B2A13B2A21B$5.A3BAB4.7B16.13B 2A13B2A21B$6.ABA3B.B.2BD3B18.51B2.2A3.2A5.2B$6.BAB3.4BD3B14.A4.17B.B 5.29B2AB2.2AB2.6B$3.6B.BA3BD2BD14.A.A4.15B10.B2.26B4.4BA5B$4.6BABABD 2BD15.A.A4.15B13.19B.10B.3B2A3B2A$3.8B2ABD2BD12.2A.A.2A4.13B14.17B4.
4BA10BA2B2A$4.3B2AB.4BD2BD10.A.A.A3.A2B3.13B12.18B4.2BAB2A.B2A3BA2B.B$3.3BABAB3.3BD3B8.A.A.B.5ABA.8B4.2A.A11.5B.11B4.B2A6BA3BA2B$4.2BA3B2. 2A2B.D3B6.A.3A2B2.B.A2BA6B6.2AB3A9.4B2.12B4.6B2.4B.2B$3.2B2A2B3.2A.2B
.D3B6.AB.A.2A2B2A2B3.4B7.B4.A15.4B.2BA3B4.7B2.B.4B.2A$15.3B.4B8.A.A. 5B5.4B5.2A.3A21.BABA2B3.4B2AB5.BAB.B2A$6B9.4B.4B7.BA.A3BABA5.4B5.A.A
24.2A2B3.2AB.BAB5.B2A4B$5B11.4B.4B4.AB.A.A.ABA2.A5.4B4.A.A26.B4.2A.4B .B2.7B$6B11.4B.4B3.2A.A2.A3.2A.A5.4B4.A35.2B.4B2.6B$5B13.4B.4B5.A3.3A 3.A6.4B5.B2.B4.2A24.2BA3BA6B2AB$6B13.4B.4B4.2A4.A3.2A6.4B3.3B.B4.A23.
B.2BA3B2AB.2ABA2B$5B15.4B.4B22.3BD.6B.BA.A22.2A2BA10BA4B$6B15.4B.4B
22.3BD6B.B2A23.2A3B2A3B.9B$5B17.4B.4B22.3BD7B26.5BA4B4.4B$4B19.4B.4B
22.D2BD6B26.6B2.B2A2.B2A2B$5B19.4B.2B2A22.D2BDB2A2B28.2B5.2A3.2A$4B
21.4B.BABA22.D2BC2BA$5B21.4B.A3B20.D2BDABAB$4B23.4B.D2BD2B16.D2BD2BAB
$5B23.5BD2BD3B13.D2BD2.3B$4B25.5BD2BD2B12.3BD3.3B$5B25.5BD2BDB11.D2BD 6.3B$4B27.5BD2BD10.D2BDB6.3B2A2.B$5B32.D2BD8.D2BD4B3.4A4B2A$38.D2BD6.
D2BD.4B3.3AB2A2B2A$39.D2BD4.D2BD2.B7.B2.BA3B$40.D2BD2.D2BD3.B12.3B$41.D2B2D2BD4.2B$42.D4BD$42.BD2BD2B$42.2B2D3B$41.7B2A$42.2B2AB.2A$41.B .ABAB4.B$40.2B.BAB$39.3B2.4B$39.3A2B2.2A7.D$38.B3A2B2.A$4B33.B.3AB4.
3A$5B30.B3A.B8.A$4B30.2B3AB$5B29.2B3A$36.3B!

and p80 too ^^

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x = 114, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
80.6B19.6B$81.6B17.6B$80.6B19.6B$81.6B17.6B$30.2A3.2A43.6B19.6B$26.4B 2A2.A.3A42.6B17.6B$25.6B3.A4.A40.6B19.6B$30.4A.2A2.A41.6B$30.A2.A.A.A
.2A39.6B$32.BABABA.A41.6B$33.B2ABA.A40.6B$34.2B.BA42.6B$33.3B3.2B39.
6B$24.2A6.4B2.3B40.6B$25.A6.B2A2BD3B39.6B$25.A.AB3.4BDBDB41.2BA3B$26.
2AB.5BD3BD40.2B3AB$28.5B2A2BD2BD40.2ABA2B$28.5B2ABCBD2BDB37.B3A2B$27. 7BAC3B2DBDB37.3A3B$26.9BA2B2.4B10.A16.4B3.4B2A2B$25.4B.7B4.D3B7.3A17. 3B4.8B$24.4B.9B4.4B5.A21.2B5.6B$23.4B.4B4.2A5.4B4.2A19.3B6.6B$3.10B9.
4B.4B5.A7.9B17.6B4.7B$6.BAB12.4B.4B7.3A5.6B13.4B2.7B3.8B$4.2B3A11.4B.
4B11.A5.3BA2B3.B2.2B2.3B3A21B$4.B3ABA10.3B.4B9.2AB.A4.2B3A14BAB4A19B$
5.BA2B.A9.2B.4B9.A2.2AB3.2B2AB2A13BA6BA15BA2B$7.A.2BAB6.2B.4B10.2A2. 6B2A18B8A13BABA2B$8.AB3AB4.7B16.4B3A19BA3BAB2A12BABA2B$9.3A3B.B.2BD3B 18.4B2A23BABA14BA4B2.2A3.2A5.2B$9.BAB3.4BD3B14.A4.5B2AB2A7B.B5.5B2A
22B2AB2.2AB2.A5B$6.6B.BA3BD2BD14.A.A4.5B3A7B10.B2.18B3A5B4.3BABA4B$7.
6BABABD2BD15.A.A4.6BA8B13.18BA.A9B.BA2BA3B2A$6.8B2ABD2BD12.2A.A.2A4. 13B14.17B4.5B5ABA6B2A$7.3B2AB.4BDBAC10.A.A.A3.BAB3.13B12.18B4.B2A3B.A
B3A2BAB.B$6.3BABAB3.3BCA2B8.A.B.A.3AB2AB.8B4.2A.A11.5B.11B4.A4BABABA 2BABAB$7.2BA3B2.2A2B.DA2B6.A.2B3A2.B.10B6.2AB3A9.4B2.12B4.A2BA2B2.4B.
AB$6.2B2A2B3.2A.2B.D3B6.2A.A.2A2B2A2B3.4B7.B4.A15.4B.2BA3B4.B3A3B2.B. 3AB.2A$18.3B.4B8.A.B.2B3A5.4B5.2A.3A21.BABA2B3.4B2AB5.2BA.B2A$18.4B. 4B7.2A.2ABABAB5.4B5.A.A24.2A2B3.2AB.A2B5.B2A4B$19.4B.4B4.2A.A.A.B2A2.
A5.4B4.A.A26.B4.2A.B3A.B2.3B3AB$20.4B.4B3.2A.A2.A3.2A.A5.4B4.A35.BA. 4B2.2BA2BA$21.4B.4B5.A3.3A3.A6.4B5.B2.B4.2A24.BABA2BABABA4BA$22.4B.4B 4.2A4.A3.2A6.4B3.3B.B4.A23.B.BA2B3ABA.3B2AB$23.4B.4B22.3BD.6B.BA.A22.
2A6BAB5A5B$24.4B.4B22.3BD6B.B2A23.2A3BA2BAB.9B$25.4B.4B22.3BD2BA4B26.
4BABA3B4.4B$26.4B.4B22.D2BDABA3B26.5BA2.B2A2.B2A2B$27.4B.2B2D22.D2BD
5B28.2B5.2A3.2A$28.4B.BDBD22.C2BCA2B$29.4B.D3B20.D2AC4B$30.4B.D2BD2B 16.D2BD4B$31.5BD2BD3B13.D2BD2.3B$32.5BD2BD2B12.3BD3.3B$33.5BDBACB11.D
2BD6.3B$34.5BCABD10.D2BDB6.4AB2.B$40.DABD8.D2BD4B3.A7B2A$41.D2BD6.D2B D.4B3.A3B2A2B2A$42.D2BD4.D2BD2.B7.A2.2A3B$43.D2BD2.D2BD3.B12.3B$44.D
2B2D2BD4.2B$45.D4BD$45.BD2BD2B$45.2B2D3B$44.7B2A$45.2B2AB.2A$44.B.ABA
B4.B$43.2B.BAB$42.BAB2.4B$42.ABA2B2.2A7.D$41.A3BAB2.A$40.A.2BAB4.3A$
38.BA2B.A8.A$37.BA3BA$37.2BABA$39.BAB$39.2B!


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For some reason I haven't been able to track down a single-step tub to hook component anywhere — so here's a 3G one:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
o$3o4bo$3bo2bo$2bobob3o$3bo2$7b2o$6b2o$b2o5bo$obo$2bo! It's possible I just didn't look hard enough. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce mniemiec Posts: 1091 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A for awesome wrote:For some reason I haven't been able to track down a single-step tub to hook component anywhere — so here's a 3G one: ... It's possible I just didn't look hard enough. Good! I didn't have any in my own archives (other than 2 gliders tub-to-head + 3 gliders head-to-hook) GUYTU6J Posts: 889 Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am Location: 中国 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This Rich's p16 on tumbler probably isn't the smallest p112, otherwise it would be noted. Code: Select all x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$5b4o$4b2ob3o$3b3o3bo7bo$bobo5b3o5b2o$ob2ob3obo3bo4bo$b2o3b2o5bob 3o2$b2o3b2o5bob3o$ob2ob3obo3bo4bo$bobo5b3o5b2o$3b3o3bo7bo$4b2ob3o$5b4o$6b2o!

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GUYTU6J wrote:This Rich's p16 on tumbler probably isn't the smallest p112, otherwise it would be noted.

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5b4o$4b2ob3o$3b3o3bo7bo$bobo5b3o5b2o$ob2ob3obo3bo4bo$b2o3b2o5bob
3o2$b2o3b2o5bob3o$ob2ob3obo3bo4bo$bobo5b3o5b2o$3b3o3bo7bo$4b2ob3o$5b4o
$6b2o!  I think it actually is the smallest known; I don't see any other way of making a smaller one. (Achim's p16 doesn't work in this case AFAIK) The oscillator page on the wiki was for the most part written in 2009, so it's possible that just no one has gotten around to listing some of the newer LCD oscillators since then. mniemiec Posts: 1091 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries GUYTU6J wrote:This Rich's p16 on tumbler probably isn't the smallest p112, otherwise it would be noted. ... Nice! Here is a 24-glider synthesis of 50p112. Nothing new here; traditional 14-glider Rich's P16 plus 10-glider edge-shot tumbler. Making the tumbler first might be cheaper, but doesn't work, unless someone finds a way to edge-shoot Rich's P16 at a reasonable cost. Code: Select all x = 169, y = 123, rule = B3/S23 56boo48boo48boo3boo$51boo3boo43boo3boo43boo3boo3boo3boo$50bobbo46bobbo 46bobbo11bobbo$51boo48boo48boo13boo$14bo99bo$15bo97bo$5b3o5b3o97b3o5b 3o$7bo113bo$6bo7bo99bo7bo$14boo97boo$13bobo97bobo20$6boo3boo43boo3boo
43boo3boo$boo3boo3boo3boo33boo3boo3boo3boo33boo3boo3boo3boo$obbo11bobb
o31bobbo11bobbo19bo11bobbo11bobbo11bo$boo13boo33boo13boo21bo11boo13boo 11bo27bo3bo$87b3o39b3o23booboboboo$154bo3bobo3bo$153bo3booboo3bo$103b oo9boo37bobo7bobo$7booboo45booboo40bobobbooboobbobo37bo9bo$6bobobobo 44booboo42bobbooboobbo$8bobo146booboo$91b3o31b3o28bobobobo$93bo31bo31b
o3bo$92bo33bo19$138bo$137bo$137b3o15$98bo$96bobo$97boo$110bo$92bo18bo 14bo$93boo14b3o12boo$92boo23bo7boo$5bo111bobo$3bobo49boo48boo10boo$4b
oo49boo48boo$$4boo49boo48boo3bobo49boo48boo5bo995boo25boo96boo23b oo95bo27bo$$157booboo$157bo3bo$155bobbobobbo$155bobo3bobo$156bo5bo4$7bo3bo45bo3bo45bo3bo45bo3bo$5booboboboo41booboboboo41booboboboo41boobo
boboo$4bo3bobo3bo39bo3bobo3bo39bo3bobo3bo39bo3bobo3bo$3bo3booboo3bo37b
o3booboo3bo37bo3booboo3bo37bo3booboo3bo$3bobo7bobo37bobo7bobo37bobo7bo bo37bobo7bobo$4bo9bo39bo9bo39bo9bo39bo9bo$$7booboo45booboo45booboo45b ooboo6bobobobo43bobobobo43bobobobo43bobobobo7bo3bo45bo3bo45bo3bo45bo 3bo!  A for awesome Posts: 1949 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries 4G pseudo-loop on block: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 6bo5bo5b3o412bo12bobo12b2o9b2o8b2ob2o7boobo2bo! Found while trying to modify something that came out of collisrc. I thought I'd seen it before, but it wasn't in Shinjuku (I just now added it), so I guess not. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)$$x_1=\eta xV^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}

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