Thread for your unsure discoveries

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » November 25th, 2016, 5:49 pm

Is there a way to make the hive and block from three gliders to make an 8G synthesis of 14.617 or will this be 9G?

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
27bo$26bo$26b3o4$11b2o$11b2o$6b3o$5bo3bo$4bo5bo9b3o$4bo5bo5bo3bo$4bo5b
o4bobo3bo$5bo3bo5bobo$6b3o7bo2$2o$b2o$o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by chris_c » November 25th, 2016, 6:01 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Is there a way to make the hive and block from three gliders to make an 8G synthesis of 14.617 or will this be 9G?
You can replace the block with a glider:

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x = 49, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
10bobo$11b2o$11bo34bo$46bobo$46b2o$38b2o3b2o$8bo29bo4b2o$9b2o2bo25bo$
8b2o2bo25b2o$12b3o4bo19bob2o$18bobo17bo2b2o$18bobo5b3o9b2o$19bo6bo$27b
o4$2o$b2o$o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » November 25th, 2016, 11:11 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:EDIT: Which means the component can easily be compacted to a single step in some cases:

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x = 23, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
9b2o6bobo$9bobo5b2o$10bo7bo$o6b3o$b2o4bo5bo6bo$2o10bo7bobo$12b3o5b2o2$
9b3o7bo$9bo8b2o$10bo7bobo5$b2o$2b2o$bo!
Saving another glider:

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x = 25, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
11b2o6bobo$11bobo5b2o$12bo7bo$9b3o$9bo12bo$o14bobo4bobo$b2o12b2o5b2o$
2o14bo$21bo$20b2o$20bobo2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » November 26th, 2016, 2:56 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Is there a way to make the hive and block from three gliders to make an 8G synthesis of 14.617 or will this be 9G?
I don't have a 3-glider synthesis of that constellation, but 9G is one better than the previous 10G. This also reduces 15.504 from 13 to 12 and 15.505 from 12 to 11, (EDIT: and one of the two beacon variants from 16 to 12.) Unfortunately, it doesn't help the 18-bit pseudo-still-life (like 14.617 but with two adjacent blocks).

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x = 149, y = 116, rule = B3/S23
36bo$34bobo$35boo5$46bo$44boo$6bo33bobobboo$7bo33boo$5b3o33bo$9bo$8bo$
8b3o17boo18boo$28boo18boo3$22boo18boo18booboboo13booboboo13booboboo13b
ooboboo13booboboo$boo18bobbo16bobbo17bob3obo13bob3obo13bob3obo13bob3ob
o13bob3obo$obo19boo18boo$bbo60boo18boo18boo18boo18boo$4boo57boo18boo
18boo18boo18bobo$4bobo60boo18boo55bo$4bo62boo18boo38bo$122boobboo$41b
oo46boo32boobobo$42boo45bobo30bo$41bo47bo$123boo$123bobo$123bo9$36bo$
34bobo$35boo5$46bo$44boo$40bobobboo$41boo$41bo3$48boo$48boo3$33bobo6b
oo18booboboo13booboboo13booboboo$34boo5bobbo17bob3obo13bob3obo13bob3ob
o$34bo7boo$63boo18boo18boo$62bobo17bobo17bobo$63bo3boo14bo3boo14bo$67b
oo18boo$$41boo46boo$42boo45bobo$41bo47bo6$44boo$44bobo$44bo4$36bo$34bo
bo$35boo5$46bo$44boo$40bobobboo$41boo$41bo3$48boo$48boo3$42boo18boobob
oo13booboboo13booboboo$41bobbo17bob3obo13bob3obo13bob3obo$42boo$53bo9b
oo18boo18boo$52bo11bo19bo19bo$52b3o6bo19bo19bo$61boo18boo18boo$$41boo$
42boo23boo18boo$41bo25boo18boo$$89boo$33b3o53bobo$35bo53bo$34bo3bo$38b
oo$37bobo!


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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » November 26th, 2016, 9:39 pm

mniemiec wrote:I don't have a 3-glider synthesis of that constellation, but 9G is one better than the previous 10G.
It's 8G thanks to chris_c.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by FlameandFury » November 30th, 2016, 12:06 am

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5$3bo$4bo$2b3o4bo$8bobo$7bo2bo$8b2o2b2o$12bobo$14bo$14b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Prokaryotic Life » December 2nd, 2016, 7:12 pm

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booboob$obobobo$bobbbob$bbooobb$$bbooobb$bobbbob$obobobo$booboob
I found this still life and it's not in the patterns list, nor is it less than 24 cells. I'm new to the forum and I don't know any place to check except the one provided here, but can someone check if it is new?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Prokaryotic Life » December 2nd, 2016, 7:16 pm

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booboob$obobobo$bobbbob$bbooobb$$bbooobb$bobbbob$obobobo$booboob
This is a 26 bit still life. It's not in the catalogue and I don't know how else to check (I'm new). Has anyone seen it before?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Goldtiger997 » December 2nd, 2016, 7:39 pm

Generally, a still life is not notable unless it has special eating or reflecting properties. This is becuase still-lifes with no special properties are usually trivially easy to construct.

For more information about whether you should post patterns, see part 4 of this post: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2092

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by GUYTU6J » December 10th, 2016, 12:26 pm

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x = 34, y = 34, rule = B3/S23:T34,34
o2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o$2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bo$obob3o3bo2b
obobobob3o3bo2bobo$obobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bo$3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bo
bobobob3o$bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo$bobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bo
$bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o$3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobo$o3bob2o3b
obobobo3bob2o3bobobo$2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo$o3bobobobo3bob2o3b
obobobo3bobo$bob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobo$bobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o
3bobo$2bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o$ob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo$obob
ob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bo$obobobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o$2o3bo2bobobobob
3o3bo2bobobobobo$3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo$bobobobob3o3bo2bobobob
ob3o3bo$3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o$ob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobo$o
bo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobo$bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o$b2o3bobobob
o3bob2o3bobobobo3bo$bobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobo$bobobo3bob2o3bobobo
bo3bob2o3bo$o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobob2o$2bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobo
bobo$obobobob3o3bo2bobobobob3o3bo$2bobobobo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o$b3o3b
o2bobobobob3o3bo2bobobobo$bo3bob2o3bobobobo3bob2o3bobobo!
Is it new?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by GUYTU6J » December 16th, 2016, 9:03 am

Also this

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x = 72, y = 72, rule = B3/S23:T72,72
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o$o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo$3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo
bo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$2o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o3b3o3bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$2bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bob
o3bobo$o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b2o$bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobo3bobo
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$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b2o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
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3o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
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3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bo$3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$bobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobo3bobo3bo
bo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$2o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o
3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b2o
$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
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3b3o3b3o3b3o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$bo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bo$b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$obobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o3bobo3bobo3b
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3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b2o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo
3bobo$2b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$bobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bo3bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo$b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Bullet51 » December 16th, 2016, 11:38 am

Also this one:

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x = 60, y = 12, rule = B3/S23:T60,14
bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$
3bobob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o$ob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o
3bobob3o3bobob3o3bobob3o3bo$obo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by praosylen » December 21st, 2016, 4:15 pm

A possible c/4 spaceship component found accidentally while watching a JLS search:

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..o.o
.....o
.o...o
o..o...o
.oo.....o
...o...o
...o...o
....o...o
........oo..o
....o...o..oo
.....o.oo...o
.......o
.......o.o
.......oo..o
.......o...o
.........o.o
Sorry about the plaintext.

Edit: Here's another one:

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.....oooo
oo..o...o
...o...oo
...o.o
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...o...oo
......ooo
.......oo
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 22nd, 2016, 3:19 pm

Possible synthesis component if someone can find a suitable reaction to edgeshoot a length-3 object in the specified time and location:

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x = 36, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$6.A.A2.2A$7.2A3.2A18.A.A$7.A23.3A$32.2A$32.2A$3.2A3.2A17.2A3.2A$
3.A.A2.2A17.A.A2.2A$2A.A.A18.2A.A.A$2A.2A19.2A.2A2$2A.4A17.2A.4A$2A.A
3.A16.2A.A3.A$6.2A.D20.2A.2A$9.D6.3D14.A$9.D3.D2.D11.2A3.A.A$3.A8.3D.
3D8.A.A4.2A$3.2A8.D4.D8.A.A$2.A.A11.3D2$5.3A$5.A$6.A4$32.A.A$31.3A$
32.2A$32.2A$27.2A3.2A$27.A.A2.2A$24.2A.A.A$24.2A.2A2$24.2A.4A$24.2A.A
3.A2.A$30.2A.A$33.A$28.2A3.A$27.A.A4.A$27.A.A!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » December 22nd, 2016, 5:01 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Possible synthesis component if someone can find a suitable reaction to edgeshoot a length-3 object in the specified time and location:

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x = 36, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$6.A.A2.2A$7.2A3.2A18.A.A$7.A23.3A$32.2A$32.2A$3.2A3.2A17.2A3.2A$
3.A.A2.2A17.A.A2.2A$2A.A.A18.2A.A.A$2A.2A19.2A.2A2$2A.4A17.2A.4A$2A.A
3.A16.2A.A3.A$6.2A.D20.2A.2A$9.D6.3D14.A$9.D3.D2.D11.2A3.A.A$3.A8.3D.
3D8.A.A4.2A$3.2A8.D4.D8.A.A$2.A.A11.3D2$5.3A$5.A$6.A4$32.A.A$31.3A$
32.2A$32.2A$27.2A3.2A$27.A.A2.2A$24.2A.A.A$24.2A.2A2$24.2A.4A$24.2A.A
3.A2.A$30.2A.A$33.A$28.2A3.A$27.A.A4.A$27.A.A!

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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13bo$6bobo2b2o$7b2o3b2o$7bo3$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2b2o$2obobo7bo$2ob2o8bobo$
13b2o$2ob4o3bo$2obo3bobobo$6b2obobo$10bo2$3bo$3b2o6b2o$2bobo5b2o$12bo$
5b3o$5bo$6bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 22nd, 2016, 5:34 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:

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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13bo$6bobo2b2o$7b2o3b2o$7bo3$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2b2o$2obobo7bo$2ob2o8bobo$
13b2o$2ob4o3bo$2obo3bobobo$6b2obobo$10bo2$3bo$3b2o6b2o$2bobo5b2o$12bo$
5b3o$5bo$6bo!
Nice! I didn't consider using a pseudo still-life.

EDIT: This might be used to synthesise Scorbie's BTS catalyst dimer:

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x = 20, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
15bo$8bobo2b2o$9b2o3b2o$9bo3$3bob2o3b2o$b3obobo2b2o$o4bobo7bo$ob2ob2o
8bobo$bobo11b2o$3bob4o3bo$2b2obo3bobobo$8b2obobo$12bo2$5bo$5b2o6b2o$4b
obo5b2o$14bo2b3o$7b3o7bo$7bo10bo$8bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by AbhpzTa » December 22nd, 2016, 5:39 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
BlinkerSpawn wrote:

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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13bo$6bobo2b2o$7b2o3b2o$7bo3$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2b2o$2obobo7bo$2ob2o8bobo$
13b2o$2ob4o3bo$2obo3bobobo$6b2obobo$10bo2$3bo$3b2o6b2o$2bobo5b2o$12bo$
5b3o$5bo$6bo!
Nice! I didn't consider using a pseudo still-life.
Or this:

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x = 18, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
7bo4bo$8bo3bobo$6b3o3b2o4$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2b2o$2obobo$2ob2o2$2ob4o4bobo$
2obo3bo3b2o2b3o$6b2o4bo2bo$16bo3$2b3o6b2o$4bo6bobo$3bo7bo$6b2o$5b2o$7b
o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 22nd, 2016, 8:32 pm

The full synthesis (58 gliders, can probably be improved, maybe even just starting from scratch):

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x = 401, y = 249, rule = B3/S23
265bo$264bo$264b3o2$112bobo$113b2o$113bo$272bo$107bo152bo9b2o$108b2o
150bobo8b2o$107b2o151b2o3$105bo$106bo157bo$104b3o155b2o$263b2o13$142bo
$143bo$141b3o$259bo$244bo12b2o$243bo14b2o$143bo99b3o$122bo21bo$123b2o
17b3o$122b2o$126bobo$127b2o$127bo3$239bo$237b2o$238b2o$154bobo76bobo$
155b2o76b2o$155bo78bo2$220bo$220bobo$220b2o$154bobo$155b2o$151bo3bo$
152bo$150b3o3$147bobo$148b2o80bo$148bo80bo$229b3o$224bo$215bobo5bo$
215b2o6b3o$216bo2$168bo$169b2o$168b2o2$216bo$189bo26bobo$187bobo26b2o$
188b2o3$194bo$182bo9b2o$183b2o8b2o$182b2o$187bo$188b2o$187b2o12$192b2o
$191b2o$193bo$197b2o$186b2o8b2o$187b2o9bo$186bo3$191b2o$163b2o26bobo$
162bobo26bo$164bo2$211b2o$210b2o$212bo2$164bo$155b3o6b2o$157bo5bobo$
156bo$149b3o$151bo80bo$150bo80b2o$231bobo3$228b3o$228bo$225bo3bo$224b
2o$224bobo$159b2o$158bobo$160bo2$146bo78bo$146b2o76b2o$145bobo76bobo$
141b2o$142b2o$141bo7$236b3o$236bo$135b3o99bo$137bo$136bo2$237b3o$130bo
106bo$130b2o106bo22b2o$129bobo129bobo$261bo4b2o$265b2o$267bo3bo$259bo
10b2o$122bo9b3o123b2o10bobo$122b2o10bo123bobo$108bo12bobo9bo$108b2o$
107bobo143b2o$252b2o$254bo$128b2o$127bobo$129bo42$392bobo$392b2o$393bo
$77bo310bo$68bobo5bo30bo91bo186bobo$68b2o6b3o26b2o93b2o185b2o$69bo36b
2o91b2o198bo$96bo65bo219bo6bo8bo$8bo36bo48bobo64bo43bo177bo3b2o9b3o$2b
o5bobo35b2o47b2o64b3o39b2o176b3o4b2o$obo5b2o35b2o43bobo61bo2bo42bo3b2o
140bo$b2o88b2o59bobo2bobo41b2o143bobo44b2o$7bo61bo21bo61b2o2b2o41b2o
144b2o45b2o3b2o$5bobo58bo2bobo75b2o46b2o46b2o46b2o46b2o8b2o27bobo6b2o
9bobo$6b2o56bobo2b2o18bo57bobo45bobo45bobo45bobo45bobo7bobo27b2o6bobo
8bo$57b2o6b2o20bobo10bo5b2o41bo4b2o41bo47bo2b2o43bo2b2o43bo2b2o3bo29bo
9bo2b2o$55bo2bo29b2o9bobobo3bo7bobo31bobo3bo41bobo2bo42bobo2bo42bobo2b
o42bobo2bo35b2o5bobo2bo$55b3o42b2ob4o8b2o31b2ob4o41b2ob4o41b2ob4o41b2o
b4o41b2ob4o34bobo4b2ob4o$90bo25bo186bo79bo$53b3o34b2o8b4ob2o41b4ob2o
41b4ob2o41b4ob2o41b4ob2o4bobo34b4ob2o41b4ob2o$52bo2bo33bobo7bo3bobobo
9b2o28bo3bobo42bo2bobo42bo2bobo42bo2bobo5b2o35bo2bobo42bo2bobo$44b2o6b
2o45b2o5bo10bobo27b2o4bo47bo39bo3b2o2bo43b2o2bo9bo34bo2bo44bo2bo$7b2o
31b2o2bobo70bo35bobo45bobo35bobo7bobo36bo8bobo6b2o35b2o46b2o$7bobo29bo
bo2bo109b2o46b2o36b2o8b2o34bobo9b2o6bobo$7bo33bo73bo28b2o2b2o47b2o44b
2o42b2o3b2o$12b2o100b2o27bobo2bobo45b2o44bobo47b2o$5b2o5bobo49b2o48bob
o28bo2bo44b2o3bo45bo$4bobo5bo50b2o45b2o27b3o52b2o101b2o4b3o$6bo58bo44b
obo28bo51bo92b3o9b2o3bo$110bo29bo147bo8bo6bo$41bo57b2o97b2o87bo$32b3o
6b2o57b2o95b2o99b2o$34bo5bobo56bo99bo98bobo$33bo264bo$293bo$293b2o$
292bobo!
EDIT: For reference, the singular version with a bi-block (21 gliders):

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x = 47, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
41bo$41bobo$41b2o2$2bo$obo$b2o3bo11bo7bo$7bo8bobo7bobo$5b3o9b2o7b2o2$
33bobo$9bo23b2o$10bo23bo$8b3o$35b2o$35bobo$16bo11bo6bo$16b2o9b2o$15bob
o9bobo3bo$12bo19b2o$12b2o18bobo$11bobo14b2o$28bobo$28bo$17b2o$18b2o$
17bo$8b3o34bo$10bo33b2o$9bo34bobo4$11b2o28b3o$3o9b2o27bo$2bo8bo30bo$bo
$36b2o$36bobo$36bo$7bo$7b2o$6bobo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » December 22nd, 2016, 11:10 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Possible synthesis component if someone can find a suitable reaction to edgeshoot a length-3 object in the specified time and location: ...
At first, I thought this might help synthesize some of the unsynthesized variants of Elkies's P5, but unfortunately, the bump on the loop faces the wrong way. Still, I took another look at them, and this one turns out to be buildable (EDIT: and two others derived from it):

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x = 171, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
21bobo$21boo$22bo$3bo$4bo$bb3o5$114bo$30bo82bo$28boo83b3o$22bobo4boo$
22boo$23bo17bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo12bo6bo$40bobb3o14bobb3o6bo7bobb3o
14bobb3o14bobb3o14bobb3o8bobo3bobb3o$42bo19bo7boo10bo8bo10bo8bo10bo19b
o11boo6bo$43bobobbo14bobobbobboo10bobobbobobo10bobobbobobo10bobobbobbo
11bobobbobbo11bobobbo$27boo13boob4o13boob4o13boob4oboo10boob4oboo10boo
b7o10boob7o10boob4o$26boo16bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo8b3o8bo$bboo24bo15bob
o17bobo17bobo17bobo17boboboo14boboboo3bo10boboobo$3boo40boo18boo18boo
18boo18booboo15booboo4bo10booboo$bbo$151bo$30boo118boo$29boo77bo3b3o
35bobo$24b3o4bo75bo4bo$26bo80b3o3bo34boo5b3o$25bo121bobo5bo$98bo50bo6b
o$98boo5boo$97bobo5bobo$105bo12$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo14bo14bo19bo29bo$obb
3o14bobb3o14bobb3o14bobb3o14bobb3o9bo14bobb3o14bobb3o24bobb3o$bbo19bo
19bo19bo19bo12b3o14bo19bo29bo$3bobobbo14bobobbo14bobobbo14bobobbo14bob
obbo24bobobbo14bobobbo24bobobbo$bboob4o4bo8boob4o13boob4o13boob4o13boo
b4o23boob4o13boob4o23boob4o$4bo8bobo8bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo21bo19b
o29bo$4boboobo3boo9boboobobobo10boboobobobo10boboobobobo10boboobobobo
20bob3o15bob3o25bob3o$5booboo15boobooboo12boobooboo12boobooboo12booboo
boo22boobbo15boobbo25boobbo$15b3o100boo18boo28bobo$11boobbo153bo$10bob
o3bo52boo18boo5bo51boo$12bo36boo17bobbo16bobbo3bo53boo$50boob3o12bobbo
16bobbo3b3o50bo3boo$49bo3bo15boo18boo61bobo$54bo26boo69bo$82boobbo$81b
o3boo$85bobo40b3o3boo15bo$130bobboo15boo$129bo5bo14bobo$$137bo$136boo$
136bobo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » December 22nd, 2016, 11:43 pm

Is this better?

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x = 51, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o2$5bo22bo$5bobo18b2o7bo$5b2o10bobo7b2o5bo$11bo6b2o14b3o$5bo
3b2o7bo$6bo3b2o$4b3o2$9b2o16b2o17b2o$6bo2bo17bobo17bo$5bobobo15bobobo
15bobob2o$4bob2ob2o13bob2ob2o13bob2ob2o$4bo19bo19bo$5b3ob2o14b3ob2o14b
3ob2o$7bob2o16bob2o16bob2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 23rd, 2016, 7:30 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Is this better?

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...
It's an improvement by 3 gliders for the bi-block version, although it's bulkier:

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x = 113, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
58bo$59b2o$58b2o6$58bo$56bobo6bo$57b2o7bo$64b3o34bo$99b2o$100b2o$61bo$
62b2o$61b2o5$80bobo23bobo$41bo39b2o23b2o$41bobo37bo25bo$41b2o2$2bo$obo
$b2o3bo11bo7bo$7bo8bobo7bobo$5b3o9b2o7b2o$90bo$33bobo52bobo$9bo23b2o
54b2o$10bo23bo64bo$8b3o86b2o$35b2o61b2o$35bobo55b2o$16bo11bo6bo58b2o$
16b2o9b2o64bo$15bobo9bobo3bo$12bo19b2o62b2o$12b2o18bobo61bobo12bo$11bo
bo14b2o66bo13b2o$28bobo46b2o31bobo$28bo43b2o2bobo$17b2o54b2o3bo$18b2o
52bo$17bo80b2o$8b3o34bo51b2o$10bo33b2o53bo$9bo34bobo4$11b2o28b3o$3o9b
2o27bo$2bo8bo30bo23bo$bo64b2o$36b2o27bobo$36bobo$36bo20b2o$7bo50b2o$7b
2o48bo$6bobo5$58b3o$60bo$59bo!
EDIT: Possible route to further improvement:

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
26bo2$24b3o$24b3o2$23b2o$22bobo$22bo3b3o$19b2obo3bo$19b2ob2o3b2o3$22bo
$22bo$20bobobo$21b3o$22bo3$bo21bo$22b2o$2o20b2o$b2o7bo8bob2o$11bo7bo2b
o$bo2bo3b5o3bo3bobobo$b4o6bo5b4ob2o$10bo10bo$b4o14bobo$bo2bo14b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » December 24th, 2016, 2:11 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Possible route to further improvement:

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
26bo2$24b3o$24b3o2$23b2o$22bobo$22bo3b3o$19b2obo3bo$19b2ob2o3b2o3$22bo
$22bo$20bobobo$21b3o$22bo3$bo21bo$22b2o$2o20b2o$b2o7bo8bob2o$11bo7bo2b
o$bo2bo3b5o3bo3bobobo$b4o6bo5b4ob2o$10bo10bo$b4o14bobo$bo2bo14b2o!
6G dock activation:

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x = 35, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
32bobo$27bobo2b2o$27b2o4bo$28bo2$22bobo5bo$23b2o5bobo$23bo6b2o3$34bo$
24b2o6b2o$23bobo7b2o$23bo$20b2obo$20b2ob2o4b3o$29bo$30bo4$22bo$22bo$
20bobobo$21b3o$22bo7$29bo$25bo2bo$24bobob3o$25bo3$23bobo$bo21bo2bo$22b
2ob2o$2o20b3obo$b2o7bo8bob2o3bo$11bo7bo2bo3bo$bo2bo3b5o3bo3bobobo$b4o
6bo5b4ob2o$10bo10bo$b4o14bobo$bo2bo14b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 28th, 2016, 8:34 pm

Unsure about this 4-glider hook-on-wing synthesis. It wasn't in this database or LifeWiki, and although it's probably known, I wouldn't know where else to check.

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x = 28, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
25bo$23b2o$24b2o17$bo$o$3o2$bo$2o$obo8$26bo$25b2o$25bobo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Goldtiger997 » December 28th, 2016, 9:31 pm

It's on chris_c's display_synth script which can be found here; viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2441&start=175, and also on BobShemyakin's database.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » December 29th, 2016, 1:07 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:It's on chris_c's display_synth script which can be found here; viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2441&start=175, and also on BobShemyakin's database.
Thanks! I didn't know about that script, it will be very helpful in the future.

EDIT: Another partial synthesis, just needs something to salvage the top at t≈20.

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x = 20, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A3$11.A$12.A$10.2ACD$13.D.2D.A$13.D.D.A$4.A7.2D2.D3A$5.A9.2D$
3.3A6.2D.D2.A$12.D2.D.2A$13.2D2.A.A8$5.2A$4.A.A$6.A!
EDIT2: And another way to salvage the bottom:

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x = 25, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
2.A.A$3.2A$3.A2$11.A.A$12.2A$12.A$15.2D5.A.A$16.D.2D2.2A$2.A13.D.D4.A
$3.2A10.2D2.D$2.2A12.D.2D$16.D.D$15.2D.D$14.D2.D4.2A$14.2D6.A.A$22.A
4$3A$2.A$.A16.3A$18.A$5.2A12.A$6.2A$5.A$22.3A$22.A$15.3A5.A$15.A$16.A
!
EDIT3: Also this 3SL seed that forms a partial still life in t=18, this doesn't look as promising as the other one though:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$2.2A2.A.A$2.2A3.2A2$5.A$.A2.A.A$2.A2.A$3A!

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