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Re: interesting wicks scorbie

Post by hought99 » October 31st, 2015, 7:31 pm

stabalized p6_42 wick

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x = 65, y = 61, rule = B3/S23:T72,72
$29bobo$29bo2bo$32bo$32b2o$25b2o6bo$31b2o2b2obo$25bo4bo4b2ob3o$26b3obo
10bo$28b2o5b2ob3o$20bobo13bobo$20bo2bo6b2o4bobo$23bo5bob3o3bo$23b2o4bo
4bo$16b2o6bo2b2o$22b2o2bo6b2o$16bo4bo4b2o$17b3obo5bo$19b2o6bo2bo$11bob
o14bobo$11bo2bo6b2o$14bo5bob3o$14b2o4bo4bo$7b2o6bo2b2o$13b2o2bo6b2o$7b
o4bo4b2o$8b3obo5bo$10b2o6bo2bo$19bobo$12b2obo$12b2ob3o$18bo$12b2ob3o$
13bobo$13bobo$14bo2$43bo$42bobo$42bobo$40b3ob2o$39bo$38bob3ob2o$37bobo
2bob2o$37bobo$35b3ob2o5b2o$34bo10bob3o$35b3ob2o4bo4bo$37bob2o2b2o$42bo
6b2o$42b2o$43bo$43bo2bo$44bobo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » October 31st, 2015, 9:25 pm

Scorbie wrote:useless-looking pi-to-R...
The R output is actually really close to useful. With the reaction envelope as posted, a simple boat R-to-B would actually work... but unfortunately a late spark not represented by the state-2 area comes a couple of cells too close:

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x = 30, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A$15.B2AB$15.3B$16.B$14.4B$14.5B$14.5B$13.6B$12.8B$12.9B$13.8B$9.
2A.9B$8.A.A11B$8.BA2.12B$5.B3.2B2.11B$3.8B.11B$2.D19B$.2D17B5.2A$2D
18B6.A$.D23B.A.2A$2.D20B2A.A2.A$6.4B.12B.A.2A$6.17B.A$8.14B.2A$10.12B
$11.10B$12.9B$10.6B3CB$10.6BCB$10.6B3C$8.2AB.8B$7.A.AB3.6B$7.A8.4B$6.
2A7.B2A2B$16.2A!
There are a couple of R-to-Gs that come even closer to working, since their catalysts are all pretty far forward of the R input.

The problem I'd really be worried about with this candidate PFx53R is the input. I can vaguely imagine that there might be a way to spark a glider from behind to sneak a pi into such a horrible location -- or maybe collide an *WSS with a glider. Theoretically.

But can anyone actually find a way to get a pi to that location in practice, with a signal from the east or southeast -- no matter how expensive the method? (No fair sending in gliders from the northwest, or *WSS from the west.)

If not, maybe that can provide some reasonable limits about where to forbid catalysts, in conduits that are supposed to be pi-to-X. Something like this, maybe:

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x = 14, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
A$4BA$8BA$12B$11B3D$13BD$11B3D$12B$8BA$4BA$A!
None of the pi outputs we have are quite as edgy as this -- and even this wouldn't be good enough to get past the big catalyst in the PFx53R.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » October 31st, 2015, 9:57 pm

I think I've seen a reaction travel orthogonally a quite considerable distance with a fairly thin reaction profile, but it was in a completely useless situation (it went backwards into the conduit, and said conduit was unlikely to be connectable anyway). It appeared from something like a HWSS with a damaged back end, sorta like those back-end damaged B's that make very edgy HF/TL's with a very thin reaction envelope.

If we can find a usable input, though, there IS actually a way to get an output, by replacing the far away block with a different clean up method:

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x = 33, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
16.D$15.3D$14.D2B2D$14.6B$14.6B$14.7B$.A10.8B$.3A8.8B$4.A6.9B.BC$3.2A
6.10BC.C$3.5B2.3B.7B.2C$5.3B.6BD3B12.2C$4.10BDBD3B11.C$4.10BDB2D4B.B
4.BC.C$3.12BD9B3.B2C$.B.26B$2A3B3C21B$2A3BCBC21B$.4BC.C22B$.4B2.23B$
8.8B2.12B$10.6B2.12B$12.4B3.9B$11.A2.AB4.2B.3B$11.4AB$17.A$13.5A$13.A
$15.A$14.2A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » October 31st, 2015, 11:08 pm

Sphenocorona wrote:If we can find a usable input, though, there IS actually a way to get an output, by replacing the far away block with a different clean up method...
Nice! Well, at least we have options like this, then:

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x = 33, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
27.A$26.A$26.3A2$16.D$15.3D$14.D2B2D$14.6B$14.6B$14.7B$.A10.8B$.3A8.
8B$4.A6.9B.BC$3.2A6.10BC.C$3.5B2.3B.7B.2C$5.3B.6BD3B12.2C$4.10BDBD3B
11.C$4.10BDB2D4B.B4.BC.C$3.12BD9B3.B2C$.B.26B$2A7.20B$2A7.20B$9.21B$
8.22B$8.8B2.12B$6.2A2.6B2.12B$6.2A4.4B3.9B$11.A2.AB4.2B.3B$11.4AB$17.
A$13.5A$13.A$15.A$14.2A!
It's still a bit tricky to restore the block --I'm sure it's doable somehow, but it may be expensive. There's a frustrating near miss where a block catalyst in the period-tripler block factory is only one cell away from overlapping with the block in this conduit. I didn't see anything else that worked on a quick survey, but didn't try all the other still lifes besides blocks that could be put in the same place.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » October 31st, 2015, 11:29 pm

Okay, I found an example of an edgy pi input that might be able to be produced by a conduit (not sure if it's the same one I had found):

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x = 33, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
16.D$15.3D$14.D2B2D$14.6B$14.6B$14.7B$.A10.8B$.3A8.8B$4.A6.9B.BC$3.2A
6.10BC.C$3.5B2.3B.7B.2C$5.3B.6BD3B12.2C$4.10BDBD3B11.C$4.10BDB2D4B.B
4.BC.C$3.12BD9B3.B2C$.B.26B$2A3B3D21B$2A3BDBD21B$.4BDBD22B$.29B$4.12B
2.12B$4.5B.6B2.12B$2.7B3.4B3.9B$9B2.A2.AB4.2B.3B$9B2.4AB$9B8.A$.4B3C
2B3.5A$3.2BC2BCB3.A$3.2BC4B5.A$3.2BC3BC4.2A$2.3BC3BC$.4BCBCB$.5BC2B$
2.2B.3B$5.2CB$6.B!
I have a feeling that particular one won't show up, but at least it proves that it should theoretically be possible.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » November 1st, 2015, 10:15 am

Sphenocorona wrote:Okay, I found an example of an edgy pi input that might be able to be produced by a conduit (not sure if it's the same one I had found)...
I have a feeling that particular one won't show up, but at least it proves that it should theoretically be possible.
Nice! Looks like there are probably quite a few broken *WSS variants that will settle into a far-forward pi. That gives us something to hope for, for all the currently impossible pi inputs that people have posted in the last few years.

Just for the record, something along these lines is also possible with the block restoration in the glider-activated variant. It's nowhere near worth the current price, but it works, so some simpler H-to-still-life could theoretically do something similar:

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x = 41, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
35.A$34.A$34.3A2$24.D$23.3D$22.D2B2D$22.6B$22.6B$22.7B$9.A10.8B$9.3A
8.8B$12.A6.9B.BC$11.2A6.10BC.C$11.5B2.3B.7B.2C$13.3B.6BD3B12.2C$12.
10BDBD3B11.C$12.10BDB2D4B.B4.BC.C$11.12BD9B3.B2C$9.B.26B$8.2A7.20B$8.
2A7.20B$17.21B$16.22B$16.8B2.12B$14.2D2.6B2.12B$13.B2DB3.4B3.9B$13.4B
2.A2.AB4.2B.3B$13.4B2.4AB$10.7B8.A$9.8B4.5A$7.10B4.A$6.B2A4B3AB6.A$5.
3B2A2.A2BAB5.2A$4.3BA2B2.3BAB$3.4B.B5.BAB$2.4B6.A.A$.A3B$B2AB$ABA!
For either case, any new mechanism that can complete one of these connections would be far more interesting (and generally useful) than the original conduit.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by M. I. Wright » November 1st, 2015, 12:06 pm

Probably too messy to work out, but the following is an H+ship collision that makes an LWSS within 45 generations of colliding:

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$8bo$7b3o11$b2o$obo$2o!
And a surprisingly clean (24,5)c/59 B fuse, probably reburnable in some way:

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x = 19, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
15bob2o$15b3o$16bo21$10b2o$10bobo$11bo22$5b2o$5bobo$6bo22$2o$obo$bo!
Edit: like this, I guess? I think it'd be better to do something with the leftover blocks, though.

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x = 63, y = 149, rule = Life
57b2o$57b2o4$61b2o$60bobo$62bo6$49b2o$49b2o$43b3o$45bo$44bo5b3o$50b4o$
49bo2b2o4$26b2o$26b2o$53bo$51b2ob2o2$50bobo$50bo3bo$50b2o2bo$51b3o$52b
o15$21b2o$21b2o2$46b2o$46bobo$47bo$24bo$24b2o$23bobo5$13b2o$13b2o4$15b
2o$15bobo$16b3o$16bob2o$20bo2$18bobo3$15bob2o22b2o$15bo2bo22bobo$15b3o
24bo21$10b2o$10bobo23b2o$11bo24bobo$37bo21$5b2o$5bobo23b2o$6bo24bobo$
32bo21$2o$obo23b2o$bo24bobo$27bo!
Edit again: Like this!

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x = 48, y = 125, rule = Life
43b2o$43b2o6$45b3o$47bo$46bo4$35b2o$35b2o4$37b2o$37bobo$38b2o$40bo$21b
2o7bo7bob2o$21b2o7b2o6bob3o$29bobo9b2o3$37bob2o$37b3o$38bo17$16b2o$16b
2o3$32b2o$32bobo$33bo4$14b3o$13bo3b2o2$13bo$14bo3bo$15b3o11$10b2o$10bo
bo$11bo15b2o$27bobo$28bo20$5b2o$5bobo$6bo15b2o$22bobo$23bo20$2o$obo$bo
15b2o$17bobo$18bo!
...except the boats are the wrong way. :/ I'd use gencols, but I don't think there's a way to set it up so that the glider only hits a certain spot (in this case, the phi spark predecessor so that it doesn't destroy the B)...

Edit: this almost works, but it destroys the second B's outgoing gliders:

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x = 47, y = 136, rule = Life
39b2o$39b2o4$41b2o$41bobo$42b2o$44bo$26b2o7b2o5bob2o$26b2o8b2o4bob3o$
35bo9b2o3$41bob2o$41b3o$42bo17$21b2o$21b2o3$36b2o$36bobo$37bo3$19b2o$
22bo$19bo2bo$20b2o$20b2o$19bo2bo$19bo$20b3o10$15b2o$15bobo$16bo14b2o$
31bobo$32bo20$10b2o$10bobo$11bo14b2o$26bobo$27bo20$5b2o$5bobo$6bo14b2o
$21bobo$22bo20$2o$obo$bo14b2o$16bobo$17bo!
As Sphenocorona pointed out below, though, the reaction probably isn't worth pursuing further.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » November 1st, 2015, 8:22 pm

There's also the issue that the other side isn't getting regenerated. It might be possible to make fully reburnable, but it sound like it would be far easier to focus on other reburnables...

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by glider_rider » November 3rd, 2015, 10:32 pm

Some oscillators found with dr2.

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x = 110, y = 162, rule = B3/S23
28b2o38bo19bo$28b2o37bobo17bobo2b2o$6b2obo38b2o11b2o4bobo16bobobo2bo$
6bob2o16b4o19bo12bo2b2obob2o14bo3b2o$4b2o19bo4bob2o9b2ob3o13bobo3bo2bo
11b2obobo3b4o$4bo19bob2o2bob2o10bobo4b2o10bob2o2bo13b2obob4o4bo$5bo18b
o3bobo10bo2bo6bo5bo7bobob2o15b3o4b3o$4b2o16b3o3bobo9bobobo4bobo5b3o4bo
2b2o2bob2o6b5o4b2obo$6b2obo11bo7bo9bo2bobo3bobo9bo6bo2bo3bo5bo4bo4bobo
$6bob2o10bobo4b2o11b2o2bobo12bo2bo5bo2b3o5bobob3o5bo$10b2o8bobo3bo10bo
6bob2o10bob2o4b5o9bo3bo7b3o$10bo6b2obo2b2obo10b7o2bo11bobo4bo5bo9b2obo
b2o6bo$11bo5b2obo4bo20bo9b2o3b3obob2ob2o10bobobobo$10b2o9b4o12b2o3b4o
9bo2b2o2bob2ob2obo9bo2bo3bobo$6b2obo27bo5bo12b2o2b2o3bo4bo9b2obob2o2bo
$6bob2o11b2o12bobo3bo16bo2bobobob3o13bobo3b2o$21b2o12b2o3bo17b2o2bobob
2o15bobo$41bo22bo19bo$38b3o21bobo$38bo23b2o4$103b2o$101bo2bo$75bo25b3o
$74bobo20b2o$25b2o19b2o22b2o3bo20bob4o$26bo3bo15bo24bo24bo5bo$25bo3bob
o15bo2bob2ob2obo6b2o2bobob5ob2obo11b2ob3o2bo$6b2obo15b5o2bo13b2o2b2obo
bob2o6bo2bobobo4bobob2o10bobobo2bobob2o$6bob2o20b2o13bo2b2o3bo8b2obob
2obobobo17bo2bobob2obo2bo2bo$4b2o17b7o15bobo2b2o2bo7bobobo3b2obo2b3o
12bo3bobo5bobobobo$4bo17bo7b2o14bobobob3o9bo2b3o3b2o4bo11b4o2bobob3obo
2bo$5bo15bob2o3b2o2bo9b2o4bobo13b3o2bo5b3obo9b2o6b4o4bo$4b2o15bob2o3b
4obo4b2obo2bo5b2ob2o12b2o8bobob2o5bo2b6o5b3o$6b2obo6bob2obo6bo3bobo3bo
b2obo10bo11bo2b2o7b2ob2o5b2obo4bo3bobo$6bob2o6b2obobo7b2obobo7bob2o6b
2o9bo2bobobo18bobobob2o3b2o$4b2o4b2o7bobo8bob2o8bo7bo3b3o5bobobo4bo17b
o2b2o2bob2o$4bo5bo8bobob3o3bo10b2ob4o2bo2b2o2bo6bo2bo2bobo14b2obo5bo3b
o$5bo5bo6b2obob2obobo12bobo2bo6bo12b2obob2o14bo2b4obob2o$4b2o4b2o5bo2b
obobob2o12bo3bo3bobo2bobo13bo3bo11bobo6b2obo$6b2obo8bobobobo15b3obobob
ob3obobo9b2o2b4o11b2o5bo4bo$6bob2o9bo3bob3o15b2ob2obo3bo2bo9bo25b5o$
24bo2bo12b2o7bo2bo3b2o9bo4b2o$25b2o13bo8b2o2b3o10b2o4b2o20bo$41bo13bo
37bobo$40b2o52bo7$49b2o9bo$43bo5bo3b2o3b3o$29b2o11bobob2obo3bo3bo$29b
2o10bo2bobobob2obobo2bo$3b2ob2obo23b2o7b3obobobobobob3o$3b2obob2o14b2o
b4o2bo12b2o4bobo$10b2o13bobo3bobo8b4o3b3o3bob2o$10bo11b3o4b2obo9bo2bo
6b2ob2obo$11bo9bo3b4obo12b2o3b2obo2bo$10b2o9b4o6bo8b3o3bobo3bobo$25bo
2bob2o8bo2b2obo3b2obob2obo$10b2o9b2ob2obo15bo2bobobo2bobob2o$10b2o9bo
2bobobob2o12b2obobo2bobo$22bobobobobobo8b3o3bo2b2obo$10b2o11b2ob2obo2b
o8bo2b2o2b2o2bo$10bo18bobo11bo2b2o2b2o$11bo17b2o13bo2bo2bo$10b2o30bobo
bo4bo$41bob2ob2o2b2o$41bo$40b2o8$26b2o$26bo$27bo$26b2o$6b2obo13b2o$6bo
b2o12bo2b3o2b2o$4b2o4b2o9bobobo2bo2bo$4bo5bo9bo2b2o2b2obo$5bo5bo9b2o7b
2o$4b2o4b2o11b5obo2bo$6b2obo13bo5b4o$6bob2o14b2obo$4b2o4b2o7b2obobobo
2b2ob3o$4bo5bo8bob2obo2b2o2b2o2bo$5bo5bo11bob2o2bo4b2o$4b2o4b2o8b2o2bo
3bo$6b2obo10bo4b3o$6bob2o11bo5bobo$20b2o6b2o12$25b2ob2o$21bo3b2obo$6b
2obo10bobo7bo$6bob2o9bo2bo2b6o$4b2o4b2o8b3obo2bo$4bo5bo13b2o3b4o$5bo5b
o10b2o4bo4bo$4b2o4b2o6b2obobo5b3o2bo$6b2obo8b2obo10b2o$6bob2o11b2o8bo$
10b2o6b2obo2bo4bo2b2o$10bo7bo2bobobo2bob2o2bo$11bo8b2obobo3bo3b2o$10b
2o11bobobobo$6b2obo13bo2bobo$6bob2o14bobobobo$25bo3b2o13$2o20b2o7b2o$
2o4b2obo13bo6bobo$6bob2o13bobo4bo$2o2b2o4b2o12b2o3b2o$o3bo5bo7bo12b2o$
bo3bo5bo6b3o6b4o2bo$2o2b2o4b2o9bo9bobo$20b2o8b2obob2obo$2o2b2o4b2o21bo
bob2o$2o2b2o4b2o11bo5b2obobo$23bo6bobo$2o2b2o4b2o9bobo3bo2bobo$o3bo5bo
8b3obobob3obo$bo3bo5bo6bo3bob2o4bo$2o2b2o4b2o6b2o2bo4b3o$6b2obo13b4o$
2o4bob2o17bo$2o23b2o$25bo$26bo$25b2o!
Not sure how many of these are new, although they were marked UNKNOWN.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » November 3rd, 2015, 11:27 pm

glider_rider wrote:Some oscillators found with dr2.

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x = 110, y = 162, rule = B3/S23
28b2o38bo19bo$28b2o37bobo17bobo2b2o$6b2obo38b2o11b2o4bobo16bobobo2bo$
6bob2o16b4o19bo12bo2b2obob2o14bo3b2o$4b2o19bo4bob2o9b2ob3o13bobo3bo2bo
11b2obobo3b4o$4bo19bob2o2bob2o10bobo4b2o10bob2o2bo13b2obob4o4bo$5bo18b
o3bobo10bo2bo6bo5bo7bobob2o15b3o4b3o$4b2o16b3o3bobo9bobobo4bobo5b3o4bo
2b2o2bob2o6b5o4b2obo$6b2obo11bo7bo9bo2bobo3bobo9bo6bo2bo3bo5bo4bo4bobo
$6bob2o10bobo4b2o11b2o2bobo12bo2bo5bo2b3o5bobob3o5bo$10b2o8bobo3bo10bo
6bob2o10bob2o4b5o9bo3bo7b3o$10bo6b2obo2b2obo10b7o2bo11bobo4bo5bo9b2obo
b2o6bo$11bo5b2obo4bo20bo9b2o3b3obob2ob2o10bobobobo$10b2o9b4o12b2o3b4o
9bo2b2o2bob2ob2obo9bo2bo3bobo$6b2obo27bo5bo12b2o2b2o3bo4bo9b2obob2o2bo
$6bob2o11b2o12bobo3bo16bo2bobobob3o13bobo3b2o$21b2o12b2o3bo17b2o2bobob
2o15bobo$41bo22bo19bo$38b3o21bobo$38bo23b2o4$103b2o$101bo2bo$75bo25b3o
$74bobo20b2o$25b2o19b2o22b2o3bo20bob4o$26bo3bo15bo24bo24bo5bo$25bo3bob
o15bo2bob2ob2obo6b2o2bobob5ob2obo11b2ob3o2bo$6b2obo15b5o2bo13b2o2b2obo
bob2o6bo2bobobo4bobob2o10bobobo2bobob2o$6bob2o20b2o13bo2b2o3bo8b2obob
2obobobo17bo2bobob2obo2bo2bo$4b2o17b7o15bobo2b2o2bo7bobobo3b2obo2b3o
12bo3bobo5bobobobo$4bo17bo7b2o14bobobob3o9bo2b3o3b2o4bo11b4o2bobob3obo
2bo$5bo15bob2o3b2o2bo9b2o4bobo13b3o2bo5b3obo9b2o6b4o4bo$4b2o15bob2o3b
4obo4b2obo2bo5b2ob2o12b2o8bobob2o5bo2b6o5b3o$6b2obo6bob2obo6bo3bobo3bo
b2obo10bo11bo2b2o7b2ob2o5b2obo4bo3bobo$6bob2o6b2obobo7b2obobo7bob2o6b
2o9bo2bobobo18bobobob2o3b2o$4b2o4b2o7bobo8bob2o8bo7bo3b3o5bobobo4bo17b
o2b2o2bob2o$4bo5bo8bobob3o3bo10b2ob4o2bo2b2o2bo6bo2bo2bobo14b2obo5bo3b
o$5bo5bo6b2obob2obobo12bobo2bo6bo12b2obob2o14bo2b4obob2o$4b2o4b2o5bo2b
obobob2o12bo3bo3bobo2bobo13bo3bo11bobo6b2obo$6b2obo8bobobobo15b3obobob
ob3obobo9b2o2b4o11b2o5bo4bo$6bob2o9bo3bob3o15b2ob2obo3bo2bo9bo25b5o$
24bo2bo12b2o7bo2bo3b2o9bo4b2o$25b2o13bo8b2o2b3o10b2o4b2o20bo$41bo13bo
37bobo$40b2o52bo7$49b2o9bo$43bo5bo3b2o3b3o$29b2o11bobob2obo3bo3bo$29b
2o10bo2bobobob2obobo2bo$3b2ob2obo23b2o7b3obobobobobob3o$3b2obob2o14b2o
b4o2bo12b2o4bobo$10b2o13bobo3bobo8b4o3b3o3bob2o$10bo11b3o4b2obo9bo2bo
6b2ob2obo$11bo9bo3b4obo12b2o3b2obo2bo$10b2o9b4o6bo8b3o3bobo3bobo$25bo
2bob2o8bo2b2obo3b2obob2obo$10b2o9b2ob2obo15bo2bobobo2bobob2o$10b2o9bo
2bobobob2o12b2obobo2bobo$22bobobobobobo8b3o3bo2b2obo$10b2o11b2ob2obo2b
o8bo2b2o2b2o2bo$10bo18bobo11bo2b2o2b2o$11bo17b2o13bo2bo2bo$10b2o30bobo
bo4bo$41bob2ob2o2b2o$41bo$40b2o8$26b2o$26bo$27bo$26b2o$6b2obo13b2o$6bo
b2o12bo2b3o2b2o$4b2o4b2o9bobobo2bo2bo$4bo5bo9bo2b2o2b2obo$5bo5bo9b2o7b
2o$4b2o4b2o11b5obo2bo$6b2obo13bo5b4o$6bob2o14b2obo$4b2o4b2o7b2obobobo
2b2ob3o$4bo5bo8bob2obo2b2o2b2o2bo$5bo5bo11bob2o2bo4b2o$4b2o4b2o8b2o2bo
3bo$6b2obo10bo4b3o$6bob2o11bo5bobo$20b2o6b2o12$25b2ob2o$21bo3b2obo$6b
2obo10bobo7bo$6bob2o9bo2bo2b6o$4b2o4b2o8b3obo2bo$4bo5bo13b2o3b4o$5bo5b
o10b2o4bo4bo$4b2o4b2o6b2obobo5b3o2bo$6b2obo8b2obo10b2o$6bob2o11b2o8bo$
10b2o6b2obo2bo4bo2b2o$10bo7bo2bobobo2bob2o2bo$11bo8b2obobo3bo3b2o$10b
2o11bobobobo$6b2obo13bo2bobo$6bob2o14bobobobo$25bo3b2o13$2o20b2o7b2o$
2o4b2obo13bo6bobo$6bob2o13bobo4bo$2o2b2o4b2o12b2o3b2o$o3bo5bo7bo12b2o$
bo3bo5bo6b3o6b4o2bo$2o2b2o4b2o9bo9bobo$20b2o8b2obob2obo$2o2b2o4b2o21bo
bob2o$2o2b2o4b2o11bo5b2obobo$23bo6bobo$2o2b2o4b2o9bobo3bo2bobo$o3bo5bo
8b3obobob3obo$bo3bo5bo6bo3bob2o4bo$2o2b2o4b2o6b2o2bo4b3o$6b2obo13b4o$
2o4bob2o17bo$2o23b2o$25bo$26bo$25b2o!
Not sure how many of these are new, although they were marked UNKNOWN.
They look new to me, but here are reductions to all stators:

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x = 106, y = 160, rule = B3/S23
90b2o$64bo22b2o2bo$6b2obo17b2ob2o31bobo20bobobo$6bob2o16bobobo31bo2b3o
18bo3b2o$4b2o19bo4bo14b2o15bobo3bo14b2obobo3bo$4bo19bob2o2b2o12bobo4b
2o10bob2o2bob2o10b2obob4obo$5bo18bo3bobo13bo6bo13bobob2obo13b3o4bo$4b
2o16b3o3bobo10b2obo4bobo6b2o4bo2b2o12b5o4b2ob2o$6b2obo11bo7bo10bobobo
3bobo6bo2bo6bo2b2o8bo4bo4bobo2bo$6bob2o10bobo4b2o11b2o2bobo9bo2bo2bo5b
o2bo8b2ob3o5bo2bo$10b2o7bo2bo3bo17bob2o9b2ob2o4b5o13bo7b2o$10bo8b2o2b
2obo11b6o2bo11bobo4bo13bob2obob2o$11bo13bo11bo8bo11bo2b3obob2o10b2obob
obobo$10b2o7b6o12b2o3b4o13bo2bob2ob2o14bo3bobo$6b2obo9bo2bo20bo16b2o3b
o18b3o2bo$6bob2o31bo19bobobo20bobo$40bo19bo2b2o22bo$41bo18b2o$38b3o$
38bo6$75bo$74bobo$70b2o3bo$71bo$25b2o3b2o18bo18bobob5ob2obo15b2o$6b2ob
o15b2o2bo2bo11b2o4b3o15bobobo4bobob2o14bo2bob2o$6bob2o20b2o13bo2b2o3bo
13bo2bobobo22bob2obo$4b2o17b7o15bobo2b2o2bo11bo3b2obo2b3o15b2obo5bo$4b
o17bo7b2o9bo4bobobob3o9bo2b3o3b2o4bo14b2obobob3o$5bo15bob2o3b2o2bo8b3o
4bobo13b3o2bo5b3obo17b4o$4b2o15bob2o3b4obo10bo5b2ob2o12b2o8bobob2o9b5o
5b4o$6b2obo8b2obo6bo3bobo8bo10bo11bo2b2o7b2ob2o8bo4bo3bobo2bo$6bob2o8b
2obo7b2obobo7bob2o6b2o9bo2bobobo20bobob2o3b2o$4b2o4b2o9bo8bob2o8bo7bo
3b3o5bobobo4bo20b2o2bob2o$4bo5bo10bob3o3bo10b2ob4o2bo2b2o2bo6bo2bo2bob
o23bo3bo$5bo5bo7bobob2obobo12bobo2bo6bobo10b2obob2o19b2obob2o$4b2o4b2o
6bobobobob2o13bo2bo3bobo2bob2o12bo3bo18bob2obo$6b2obo8bobobobo17bobobo
bob3o13b2o2b4o23bo$6bob2o9bo3bob3o15b2ob2obo16bo30b2o$24bo2bo21bob2o
14bo4b2o$25b2o22b2obo13b2o4b2o9$49b2o$43bo5bo3b2o$42bobob2obo3bo$41bo
2bobobob2obobo$3b2ob2obo18b2o12b3obobobobobobo$3b2obob2o17bob3o14b2o4b
obo2bo$10b2o13b3o4bo9b4o3b3o3bobo$10bo13bo4b2obo9bo2bo6b2ob2o$11bo9bo
3b4ob2o11b2o3b2obo2bo$10b2o9b4o15b3o3bobo3bobo$25bo2bob2o8bo2b2obo3b2o
bo$10b2o9b2ob2obo3bo11bo2bobobo2bobo$10b2o9bo2bobobobo13b2obobo2bobobo
$22bobobobob2o9b3o3bo2b2o2bobo$10b2o11b2ob2o13bo2b2o2b2o2b2obo$10bo32b
o2b2o3bo2bo$11bo32bo2bo4b2o$10b2o33b2o13$24b2o$25bo$6b2obo14bo$6bob2o
13bob3o2b2o$4b2o4b2o11bobo2bo2bo$4bo5bo9b2ob2o2b2obo$5bo5bo8bobo7b2o$
4b2o4b2o10bob4obo2bo$6b2obo11bobo5b3obo$6bob2o11bo2b2obo4bo$4b2o4b2o
10bobobo2b3o$4bo5bo10b2obo2b2o$5bo5bo13b2o2bo$4b2o4b2o16b2o$6b2obo$6bo
b2o13$24b2obo$24bob2o$6b2obo20bo$6bob2o15b6o$4b2o4b2o12bo2bo$4bo5bo13b
2o3b4o$5bo5bo6b2o2b2o4bo4bo$4b2o4b2o6bo2bobo5b3o2bo$6b2obo9bobo10b2o$
6bob2o8b2ob2o8bo$10b2o9bo2bo4bo2b2o$10bo10bobobo2bob2o2bo$11bo8b2obobo
3bo3b2o$10b2o11bobobobo$6b2obo13bo2bobo$6bob2o14bobobobo$25bo3b2o13$2o
20b2o7b2o$2o4b2obo13bo6bobo$6bob2o13bobo4bo$2o2b2o4b2o12b2o3b2o$o3bo5b
o7bo12b2o$bo3bo5bo6b3o6b4o2bo$2o2b2o4b2o9bo9bobo$20b2o8b2obob2o$2o2b2o
4b2o21bo2bo$2o2b2o4b2o11bo5b2obob2o$23bo6bobo$2o2b2o4b2o9bobo3bo2bobo$
o3bo5bo8b3obobob3obo$bo3bo5bo6bo3bob2o4bo$2o2b2o4b2o6b2o2bo4b3o$6b2obo
13b4o$2o4bob2o17bo$2o23bobo$25b2o!
This reveals that your last two P5s are in fact the same.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by glider_rider » November 3rd, 2015, 11:40 pm

Thanks! I'm not very good at stator reduction.
Extrementhusiast wrote:This reveals that your last two P5s are in fact the same.
Oops.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sokwe » November 3rd, 2015, 11:44 pm

glider_rider wrote:Some oscillators found with dr2....

Not sure how many of these are new, although they were marked UNKNOWN.
They are probably all new, as long as you were using an up-to-date knownrotors file. For the most part, nobody keeps track of oscillators with periods below 7, as they are very common, and they can usually be found directly using WLS or JLS. Here are (probably) minimal stators for the p9 and the p10 (found using JLS):

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x = 48, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
9bo24b2o7b2o$9b3o23bo6bobo$12bo22bobo4bo$7b5o24b2o3b2o$6bo23bo12b2o$6b
o3b4o16b3o6b4o2bo$4b2o8bo2b2o14bo9bobo$3bo9bobo2bo13b2o8b2ob2o$3bo8bo
2b2o30bo$2obo9b2o20bo5b2ob3o$bobobo5bo2bo20bo6bobo$bobobo4bob2o19bobo
3bo2bo$2bo2bo2bo2bo19b3obobob4o$5bobobobo18bo3bob2o$6bo2b2o19b2o2bo4b
2o$7b2o26b3obo$8bo28bobo$6bo31bo$6b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Bullet51 » November 6th, 2015, 3:21 am

A P11 billiard table, which is definitely sub-optimal in size:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9bobo$8b2obob2o$5bobo3bo2b3o$4bo2b4obo4bo$12b4obo$4b2o3b3o
3bob2o$3bobo3bo3b2o3bo$b3obob2o5bob2o$o4bobo3b3o2bo$b4o2bo2bo5bo$5b2o
3bo2b3o$3bo2bobobobo$3b2obob2o2bob2o$4bob2o4bob2o$4bo4b3o$5b3obo$7b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sokwe » November 6th, 2015, 3:34 pm

Bullet51 wrote:A P11 billiard table, which is definitely sub-optimal in size:
Here it is with minimized stator (found using JLS):

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2obo$4bo4bob2o$5b3obo3b2o$7bobob2o2bo$2o6b2o2bobo$obo7b2o2b2o$2b
o8bobo$2b2o4b3o2bo$4bo2bo5b2o$5o2bo2b3o$o4bobobo2bo$bobob2o2bo$2ob2o4b
2o$2bo3b3o$2bob2o2bo$3bobo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » November 6th, 2015, 9:01 pm

Domino-stabilized reaction:

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x = 35, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$5bo10bo$5bob2o6bobo$2b2obo2bo4b3obo$bobobo6bo4b2obo$bobobo6bob2o
3b2o5b2o$2obob2o4b2obob2o8bobo$3bob2o9bob5o5b3o$3bobo3bob2ob2obo5bo3bo
3bo$4b2o6b2o5b4o5bo2bo$7bo3bobo2bo3bobo5bo2bob2o$4b2obo3bobo2b2obob2ob
o3b2obo2bo$4bo7b2o3b3ob2ob2o2b2ob2o$2bobo4bob2ob2ob2o7bo4bo$2b2o14bo7b
ob2obo$11b2obobob2o6bobo2b2o$12bob2obo2bo3bobobobo$12bo4bobo4b2o3b2o$
11b2o4b2o!
Could possibly be used as part of an esoteric eater.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by glider_rider » November 7th, 2015, 10:20 pm

Two p8's. I think the stators are minimal.

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x = 41, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bo$7b2o25bo$8bo21b4obob2o$6bo22bo5bobobo$5bob4o17bob3o2bobo2bo
$5bobo3bo15bobo5bob3o$3b3obob2obo14bobo2b3o$2bo9bo11b2obobobo4b2o$o2b
3o4bobob2o8bo2bo3bo2b2o2bo$2obo6bobo2bo10bo4bobo3b2o$3bobo3bo3bo13b4o
2bo$3bobob2ob3o19bo$4bo5bo16b4obobo$5b4obo16bo2bo2b2o$9bo18bobo$7bo21b
o$7b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Scorbie » November 7th, 2015, 11:23 pm

Nice oscs! The first one seems to by found by Sokwe some time before but the second one seems to be new:)
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Scorbie » November 8th, 2015, 4:43 am

An unstable g->boat+TL. Amusing but I'm not sure if this can be useful. I can tell you that no spartan catalyst was able to save the bait here.

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x = 11, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
10bo$8b3o$7bo$7b2o7$2b2o$bobo$2bo4b2o$7bobo$7bo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!
Whoops, a stupid mistake. That is part of the spartan g->boat there.

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x = 21, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$2b2o8bo6bo$bobo7bobo3bobo$bo9b2o4b2o$2o3$3b2o9b2o$2bobo9bobo$2bo
11bo$b2o!
Apparently you can get an extra boat there.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Scorbie » November 8th, 2015, 9:55 am

Edit: Probably known: Did I mention this before?

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x = 26, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
18.2D$18.2D5$2A6.2C$2A6.2C13.2D$23.2D$8.A$7.2A$7.A.A$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A
20.2A$22.A.A$24.A$24.2A!
A block in one of the red positions makes the bait block to recover, which indicates that there may be other catalysts that can restore the block.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » November 9th, 2015, 8:04 pm

40,40c/396 fuse:

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x = 2509, y = 2530, rule = B3/S23
bo$2b2o$3b2o22b2o$5bo21b2o$5o$3bo37$67b2o$67b2o5$21b2o$21b2o33$107b2o$
107b2o5$61b2o$61b2o33$147b2o$147b2o5$101b2o$101b2o33$187b2o$187b2o5$
141b2o$141b2o33$227b2o$227b2o5$181b2o$181b2o33$267b2o$267b2o5$221b2o$
221b2o33$307b2o$307b2o5$261b2o$261b2o33$347b2o$347b2o5$301b2o$301b2o
33$387b2o$387b2o5$341b2o$341b2o33$427b2o$427b2o5$381b2o$381b2o33$467b
2o$467b2o5$421b2o$421b2o33$507b2o$507b2o5$461b2o$461b2o33$547b2o$547b
2o5$501b2o$501b2o33$587b2o$587b2o5$541b2o$541b2o33$627b2o$627b2o5$581b
2o$581b2o33$667b2o$667b2o5$621b2o$621b2o33$707b2o$707b2o5$661b2o$661b
2o33$747b2o$747b2o5$701b2o$701b2o33$787b2o$787b2o5$741b2o$741b2o33$
827b2o$827b2o5$781b2o$781b2o33$867b2o$867b2o5$821b2o$821b2o33$907b2o$
907b2o5$861b2o$861b2o33$947b2o$947b2o5$901b2o$901b2o33$987b2o$987b2o5$
941b2o$941b2o33$1027b2o$1027b2o5$981b2o$981b2o33$1067b2o$1067b2o5$
1021b2o$1021b2o33$1107b2o$1107b2o5$1061b2o$1061b2o33$1147b2o$1147b2o5$
1101b2o$1101b2o33$1187b2o$1187b2o5$1141b2o$1141b2o33$1227b2o$1227b2o5$
1181b2o$1181b2o33$1267b2o$1267b2o5$1221b2o$1221b2o33$1307b2o$1307b2o5$
1261b2o$1261b2o33$1347b2o$1347b2o5$1301b2o$1301b2o33$1387b2o$1387b2o5$
1341b2o$1341b2o33$1427b2o$1427b2o5$1381b2o$1381b2o33$1467b2o$1467b2o5$
1421b2o$1421b2o33$1507b2o$1507b2o5$1461b2o$1461b2o33$1547b2o$1547b2o5$
1501b2o$1501b2o33$1587b2o$1587b2o5$1541b2o$1541b2o33$1627b2o$1627b2o5$
1581b2o$1581b2o33$1667b2o$1667b2o5$1621b2o$1621b2o33$1707b2o$1707b2o5$
1661b2o$1661b2o33$1747b2o$1747b2o5$1701b2o$1701b2o33$1787b2o$1787b2o5$
1741b2o$1741b2o33$1827b2o$1827b2o5$1781b2o$1781b2o33$1867b2o$1867b2o5$
1821b2o$1821b2o33$1907b2o$1907b2o5$1861b2o$1861b2o33$1947b2o$1947b2o5$
1901b2o$1901b2o33$1987b2o$1987b2o5$1941b2o$1941b2o33$2027b2o$2027b2o5$
1981b2o$1981b2o33$2067b2o$2067b2o5$2021b2o$2021b2o33$2107b2o$2107b2o5$
2061b2o$2061b2o33$2147b2o$2147b2o5$2101b2o$2101b2o33$2187b2o$2187b2o5$
2141b2o$2141b2o33$2227b2o$2227b2o5$2181b2o$2181b2o33$2267b2o$2267b2o5$
2221b2o$2221b2o33$2307b2o$2307b2o5$2261b2o$2261b2o33$2347b2o$2347b2o5$
2301b2o$2301b2o33$2387b2o$2387b2o5$2341b2o$2341b2o33$2427b2o$2427b2o5$
2381b2o$2381b2o33$2467b2o$2467b2o5$2421b2o$2421b2o33$2507b2o$2507b2o5$
2461b2o$2461b2o39$2501b2o$2501b2o!
16,16c/358 fuse:

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x = 2381, y = 2372, rule = B3/S23
bo$2b2o23b2o$3b2o22b2o$5bo$5o$3bo12$43b2o$43b2o15$59b2o$10b2o47b2o$10b
2o14$75b2o$26b2o47b2o$26b2o14$91b2o$42b2o47b2o$42b2o14$107b2o$58b2o47b
2o$58b2o14$123b2o$74b2o47b2o$74b2o14$139b2o$90b2o47b2o$90b2o14$155b2o$
106b2o47b2o$106b2o14$171b2o$122b2o47b2o$122b2o14$187b2o$138b2o47b2o$
138b2o14$203b2o$154b2o47b2o$154b2o14$219b2o$170b2o47b2o$170b2o14$235b
2o$186b2o47b2o$186b2o14$251b2o$202b2o47b2o$202b2o14$267b2o$218b2o47b2o
$218b2o14$283b2o$234b2o47b2o$234b2o14$299b2o$250b2o47b2o$250b2o14$315b
2o$266b2o47b2o$266b2o14$331b2o$282b2o47b2o$282b2o14$347b2o$298b2o47b2o
$298b2o14$363b2o$314b2o47b2o$314b2o14$379b2o$330b2o47b2o$330b2o14$395b
2o$346b2o47b2o$346b2o14$411b2o$362b2o47b2o$362b2o14$427b2o$378b2o47b2o
$378b2o14$443b2o$394b2o47b2o$394b2o14$459b2o$410b2o47b2o$410b2o14$475b
2o$426b2o47b2o$426b2o14$491b2o$442b2o47b2o$442b2o14$507b2o$458b2o47b2o
$458b2o14$523b2o$474b2o47b2o$474b2o14$539b2o$490b2o47b2o$490b2o14$555b
2o$506b2o47b2o$506b2o14$571b2o$522b2o47b2o$522b2o14$587b2o$538b2o47b2o
$538b2o14$603b2o$554b2o47b2o$554b2o14$619b2o$570b2o47b2o$570b2o14$635b
2o$586b2o47b2o$586b2o14$651b2o$602b2o47b2o$602b2o14$667b2o$618b2o47b2o
$618b2o14$683b2o$634b2o47b2o$634b2o14$699b2o$650b2o47b2o$650b2o14$715b
2o$666b2o47b2o$666b2o14$731b2o$682b2o47b2o$682b2o14$747b2o$698b2o47b2o
$698b2o14$763b2o$714b2o47b2o$714b2o14$779b2o$730b2o47b2o$730b2o14$795b
2o$746b2o47b2o$746b2o14$811b2o$762b2o47b2o$762b2o14$827b2o$778b2o47b2o
$778b2o14$843b2o$794b2o47b2o$794b2o14$859b2o$810b2o47b2o$810b2o14$875b
2o$826b2o47b2o$826b2o14$891b2o$842b2o47b2o$842b2o14$907b2o$858b2o47b2o
$858b2o14$923b2o$874b2o47b2o$874b2o14$939b2o$890b2o47b2o$890b2o14$955b
2o$906b2o47b2o$906b2o14$971b2o$922b2o47b2o$922b2o14$987b2o$938b2o47b2o
$938b2o14$1003b2o$954b2o47b2o$954b2o14$1019b2o$970b2o47b2o$970b2o14$
1035b2o$986b2o47b2o$986b2o14$1051b2o$1002b2o47b2o$1002b2o14$1067b2o$
1018b2o47b2o$1018b2o14$1083b2o$1034b2o47b2o$1034b2o14$1099b2o$1050b2o
47b2o$1050b2o14$1115b2o$1066b2o47b2o$1066b2o14$1131b2o$1082b2o47b2o$
1082b2o14$1147b2o$1098b2o47b2o$1098b2o14$1163b2o$1114b2o47b2o$1114b2o
14$1179b2o$1130b2o47b2o$1130b2o14$1195b2o$1146b2o47b2o$1146b2o14$1211b
2o$1162b2o47b2o$1162b2o14$1227b2o$1178b2o47b2o$1178b2o14$1243b2o$1194b
2o47b2o$1194b2o14$1259b2o$1210b2o47b2o$1210b2o14$1275b2o$1226b2o47b2o$
1226b2o14$1291b2o$1242b2o47b2o$1242b2o14$1307b2o$1258b2o47b2o$1258b2o
14$1323b2o$1274b2o47b2o$1274b2o14$1339b2o$1290b2o47b2o$1290b2o14$1355b
2o$1306b2o47b2o$1306b2o14$1371b2o$1322b2o47b2o$1322b2o14$1387b2o$1338b
2o47b2o$1338b2o14$1403b2o$1354b2o47b2o$1354b2o14$1419b2o$1370b2o47b2o$
1370b2o14$1435b2o$1386b2o47b2o$1386b2o14$1451b2o$1402b2o47b2o$1402b2o
14$1467b2o$1418b2o47b2o$1418b2o14$1483b2o$1434b2o47b2o$1434b2o14$1499b
2o$1450b2o47b2o$1450b2o14$1515b2o$1466b2o47b2o$1466b2o14$1531b2o$1482b
2o47b2o$1482b2o14$1547b2o$1498b2o47b2o$1498b2o14$1563b2o$1514b2o47b2o$
1514b2o14$1579b2o$1530b2o47b2o$1530b2o14$1595b2o$1546b2o47b2o$1546b2o
14$1611b2o$1562b2o47b2o$1562b2o14$1627b2o$1578b2o47b2o$1578b2o14$1643b
2o$1594b2o47b2o$1594b2o14$1659b2o$1610b2o47b2o$1610b2o14$1675b2o$1626b
2o47b2o$1626b2o14$1691b2o$1642b2o47b2o$1642b2o14$1707b2o$1658b2o47b2o$
1658b2o14$1723b2o$1674b2o47b2o$1674b2o14$1739b2o$1690b2o47b2o$1690b2o
14$1755b2o$1706b2o47b2o$1706b2o14$1771b2o$1722b2o47b2o$1722b2o14$1787b
2o$1738b2o47b2o$1738b2o14$1803b2o$1754b2o47b2o$1754b2o14$1819b2o$1770b
2o47b2o$1770b2o14$1835b2o$1786b2o47b2o$1786b2o14$1851b2o$1802b2o47b2o$
1802b2o14$1867b2o$1818b2o47b2o$1818b2o14$1883b2o$1834b2o47b2o$1834b2o
14$1899b2o$1850b2o47b2o$1850b2o14$1915b2o$1866b2o47b2o$1866b2o14$1931b
2o$1882b2o47b2o$1882b2o14$1947b2o$1898b2o47b2o$1898b2o14$1963b2o$1914b
2o47b2o$1914b2o14$1979b2o$1930b2o47b2o$1930b2o14$1995b2o$1946b2o47b2o$
1946b2o14$2011b2o$1962b2o47b2o$1962b2o14$2027b2o$1978b2o47b2o$1978b2o
14$2043b2o$1994b2o47b2o$1994b2o14$2059b2o$2010b2o47b2o$2010b2o14$2075b
2o$2026b2o47b2o$2026b2o14$2091b2o$2042b2o47b2o$2042b2o14$2107b2o$2058b
2o47b2o$2058b2o14$2123b2o$2074b2o47b2o$2074b2o14$2139b2o$2090b2o47b2o$
2090b2o14$2155b2o$2106b2o47b2o$2106b2o14$2171b2o$2122b2o47b2o$2122b2o
14$2187b2o$2138b2o47b2o$2138b2o14$2203b2o$2154b2o47b2o$2154b2o14$2219b
2o$2170b2o47b2o$2170b2o14$2235b2o$2186b2o47b2o$2186b2o14$2251b2o$2202b
2o47b2o$2202b2o14$2267b2o$2218b2o47b2o$2218b2o14$2283b2o$2234b2o47b2o$
2234b2o14$2299b2o$2250b2o47b2o$2250b2o14$2315b2o$2266b2o47b2o$2266b2o
14$2331b2o$2282b2o47b2o$2282b2o14$2347b2o$2298b2o47b2o$2298b2o14$2363b
2o$2314b2o47b2o$2314b2o14$2379b2o$2330b2o47b2o$2330b2o15$2346b2o$2346b
2o!
54,54c/300 fuse:

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x = 3916, y = 3906, rule = B3/S23
3914b2o$3914b2o11$3872b2o$3872b2o41$3860b2o$3860b2o11$3818b2o$3818b2o
41$3806b2o$3806b2o11$3764b2o$3764b2o41$3752b2o$3752b2o11$3710b2o$3710b
2o41$3698b2o$3698b2o11$3656b2o$3656b2o41$3644b2o$3644b2o11$3602b2o$
3602b2o41$3590b2o$3590b2o11$3548b2o$3548b2o41$3536b2o$3536b2o11$3494b
2o$3494b2o41$3482b2o$3482b2o11$3440b2o$3440b2o41$3428b2o$3428b2o11$
3386b2o$3386b2o41$3374b2o$3374b2o11$3332b2o$3332b2o41$3320b2o$3320b2o
11$3278b2o$3278b2o41$3266b2o$3266b2o11$3224b2o$3224b2o41$3212b2o$3212b
2o11$3170b2o$3170b2o41$3158b2o$3158b2o11$3116b2o$3116b2o41$3104b2o$
3104b2o11$3062b2o$3062b2o41$3050b2o$3050b2o11$3008b2o$3008b2o41$2996b
2o$2996b2o11$2954b2o$2954b2o41$2942b2o$2942b2o11$2900b2o$2900b2o41$
2888b2o$2888b2o11$2846b2o$2846b2o41$2834b2o$2834b2o11$2792b2o$2792b2o
41$2780b2o$2780b2o11$2738b2o$2738b2o41$2726b2o$2726b2o11$2684b2o$2684b
2o41$2672b2o$2672b2o11$2630b2o$2630b2o41$2618b2o$2618b2o11$2576b2o$
2576b2o41$2564b2o$2564b2o11$2522b2o$2522b2o41$2510b2o$2510b2o11$2468b
2o$2468b2o41$2456b2o$2456b2o11$2414b2o$2414b2o41$2402b2o$2402b2o11$
2360b2o$2360b2o41$2348b2o$2348b2o11$2306b2o$2306b2o41$2294b2o$2294b2o
11$2252b2o$2252b2o41$2240b2o$2240b2o11$2198b2o$2198b2o41$2186b2o$2186b
2o11$2144b2o$2144b2o41$2132b2o$2132b2o11$2090b2o$2090b2o41$2078b2o$
2078b2o11$2036b2o$2036b2o41$2024b2o$2024b2o11$1982b2o$1982b2o41$1970b
2o$1970b2o11$1928b2o$1928b2o41$1916b2o$1916b2o11$1874b2o$1874b2o41$
1862b2o$1862b2o11$1820b2o$1820b2o41$1808b2o$1808b2o11$1766b2o$1766b2o
41$1754b2o$1754b2o11$1712b2o$1712b2o41$1700b2o$1700b2o11$1658b2o$1658b
2o41$1646b2o$1646b2o11$1604b2o$1604b2o41$1592b2o$1592b2o11$1550b2o$
1550b2o41$1538b2o$1538b2o11$1496b2o$1496b2o41$1484b2o$1484b2o11$1442b
2o$1442b2o41$1430b2o$1430b2o11$1388b2o$1388b2o41$1376b2o$1376b2o11$
1334b2o$1334b2o41$1322b2o$1322b2o11$1280b2o$1280b2o41$1268b2o$1268b2o
11$1226b2o$1226b2o41$1214b2o$1214b2o11$1172b2o$1172b2o41$1160b2o$1160b
2o11$1118b2o$1118b2o41$1106b2o$1106b2o11$1064b2o$1064b2o41$1052b2o$
1052b2o11$1010b2o$1010b2o41$998b2o$998b2o11$956b2o$956b2o41$944b2o$
944b2o11$902b2o$902b2o41$890b2o$890b2o11$848b2o$848b2o41$836b2o$836b2o
11$794b2o$794b2o41$782b2o$782b2o11$740b2o$740b2o41$728b2o$728b2o11$
686b2o$686b2o41$674b2o$674b2o11$632b2o$632b2o41$620b2o$620b2o11$578b2o
$578b2o41$566b2o$566b2o11$524b2o$524b2o41$512b2o$512b2o11$470b2o$470b
2o41$458b2o$458b2o11$416b2o$416b2o41$404b2o$404b2o11$362b2o$362b2o41$
350b2o$350b2o11$308b2o$308b2o41$296b2o$296b2o11$254b2o$254b2o41$242b2o
$242b2o11$200b2o$200b2o41$188b2o$188b2o11$146b2o$146b2o41$134b2o$134b
2o11$92b2o$92b2o41$80b2o$80b2o11$38b2o$38b2o41$26b2o$26b2o11$bo$2b2o$
3b2o$5bo$5o$3bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by A for awesome » November 12th, 2015, 11:22 pm

Is this a known p4?

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o9b2o$o2bo7bo2bo$3o2b5o2b3o$3b2o5b2o$2bo9bo$2b2obo3bob2o$7bo2$7b3o2$
6bo$5bobo3bo$6bo2b2obo$12bo$12b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by simeks » November 13th, 2015, 3:18 pm

Is there a periodic sparker that can replace a sacrificial block, and that fits to complete this H-to-H?

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x = 43, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
14.C$14.3C$17.C$16.2C$16.5B6.2C$4.2C12.4B4.B2CB$5.C10.B.5B4.3B7.2C$5.
C.CB5.9B2.4B8.C$6.2CB.3B.9B2.5B4.BC.C$8.25B.B2C$8.27B$9.26B$8.28B3.2C
$6.30B2.C.C$4.32B2.C$4.2BA13B2.14B.2C$3.3BABA4B.6B4.12BC$4.2B3A4B2.B.
5B2.11B.5C$3.5BA4B7.2E2.9B2.B4.C$2.10B8.2E2.10B2.2C$.4B20.9B3.C$4B22.
8B3.C.2C$3B24.6B5.C.C$2B26.6B$B27.5B4.C$27.8B.C.C$27.8BC.C.C.2C$27.6B
.2BCB.C.2C$26.2B3D2B2.2B2.C$26.4BD2B3.B.2C$22.2B.4B3DB2.C.C2.2C$21.
12B2.2C2.C2.C$21.12B7.2C$21.12B$21.11B$22.7B$22.8B$23.8B$23.7B$24.7B$
24.7B$23.8B$24.4B$25.3B$26.B!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Jackk » November 13th, 2015, 3:49 pm

Sorry to repost, but is there any hope of restoring the sacrificial block here?

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x = 34, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E$4.E$3.E$3.2E13.2E$4.B13.2E$4.3B$3.6B$2.10B$2.11B3.2B2.2B.3B$2BC
3B2C15BD3B$2B2C2B2C15BDBD2B$.2B2C18B3D2B4.2E$2.2C21BD2B4.2E$2.25B$4.
13B.B$4.7B.B!
EDIT: Perhaps this variant is more promising...

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x = 34, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
33.E$31.3E$30.E$19.2E9.CE$20.E$20.E.E$21.EC3$3.2E$4.E$3.E$3.2E$4.B$4.
3B$3.6B$2.10B$2.11B3.2B2.2B.3B$2BC3B2C15BD3B$2B2C2B2C15BDBD2B$.2B2C
18B3D2B4.2C$2.2C21BD2B4.2C$2.25B$4.13B.B$4.7B.B!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by danieldb » November 13th, 2015, 11:25 pm

Is this reaction notable (wing on wing gets eaten and then created? happens at generation 463):

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x = 208, y = 185, rule = B3/S23
7bo$8bo$6b3o3$bo$2bo$3o16$205bo$205bobo$205b2o$202bo$201bo$201b3o56$
76bo27bo$75bo28bobo$75b3o26b2o3$76bo26bo$75bo26bo$75b3o24b3o2$75b3o24b
3o$75bo26bo$76bo26bo3$75b3o26b2o$75bo28bobo$76bo27bo56$201b3o$201bo$
202bo$205b2o$205bobo$205bo16$3o$2bo$bo3$6b3o$8bo$7bo!
moved to drc

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » November 14th, 2015, 12:21 pm

Block to house component (probably not very useful):

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$4bo$2o$2o$4b3o$4bo$5bo$b3o$3bo$2bo!
Another seed for the H' object:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.ABA$6.B2A2B$6.2BA2B$4.6B$.B.3B2E2B$2E3BE2BEB$2E4BEBEB$.3B2DBE2B$.3B
D2B2D$3.B.D2BD$5.3D!
Tim Coe's p8 can apparently be used as a block deleter:

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2o3bo$b2ob2o$5bobo$6bo$2o4b3o2b2o$2o9b2o3$12b2o$12b2o!
Also, is the mango the smallest still life that can be converted to a glider by a single dot spark?

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
bo2$2b2o$bo2bo$o2bo$b2o!

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