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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 12:54 pm

EvinZL wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 12:03 pm
EDIT: the guard glider is incorrect, but here is a fixed version + 121x loaf

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$
43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$
45.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$40.O7.2M4.2M8.2M$38.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA6.M40.2M
$45.pA$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$
30.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$33.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$26.
M4.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.2M.M$25.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q
21.3M9.M7.M.M.M$25.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.
pA24.M12.3M8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M
17.M.M$24.M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.M19.M$21.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.
pA.pA20.3M5.M10.2M$22.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M12.2M$23.M.M11.2O37.2M12.
2M$24.M5.2pA5.2O51.M14.M$24.M5.2pA23.2M22.2M24.M$55.M23.2M13.3M8.M$
43.M9.M.M13.2pA24.3M$41.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.M.M27.2pA
4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.pA.pA4.2M3.M2.M23.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.M.M22.pA
.pA13.S9.2M$19.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA11.M28.S.S4.S.S12.2M
11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$26.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$25.
2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$25.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.
3Q.Q$25.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q
.Q$20.O16.2pA3.pA.pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$20.3O14.2pA4.pA4.pA
5.O.O10.S5.S7.M4.3Q17.Q.Q$23.O4.2A17.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$22.2O3.A2.A32.
S.S3.S.S7.M3.M$27.A.A3.2A29.S5.S9.3M8.3Q$28.A3.A.A16.2S8.S5.S10.2M3.
2M$32.2A16.S.S7.S.S3.S.S$49.S2.S.S6.S5.S$20.2W.2W14.A9.2S2.2S3.S5.S$
5.W14.W3.W13.A.A16.S.S3.S.S$.W.W17.3W15.A18.S5.S6.pA$.W.W.2W2.W6.2W4.
W32.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$2W7.3W4.2W4.W23.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$3W4.W.W
11.3W16.U4.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$3.W2.2W.2W9.W3.W.2W7.U3.U.U3.2O5.S5.S32.2M
6.Q$W2.W.3W4.W.2W4.2W.2W.2W6.U.U3.U10.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.3W.W3.3W3.W
17.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$2W9.W2.4W37.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$3.2W2.2W.W4.W26.2O10.S.
S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W10.W3.W19.U5.O9.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$W3.2W2.
2W2.W21.U.U7.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$4W2.3W.4W.W19.U6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q
$.2W.2W2.W.W21.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$4.2W4.4W13.U3.U.U74.Q$10.W7.M6.U2.U3.U
3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$.7W2.2W5.M2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$.5W.W.3W2.2M.M
2.M5.U10.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$W.W4.W2.W4.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q
37.2Q.2Q$3.2W3.3W5.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$W2.2W.W.W8.M.M.M14.2U11.pA
8.2S45.3Q2.Q$2W4.W.2W.W5.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA$19.4M31.3U$
20.M3.2M29.3U5.2M7.3M$26.M36.2M9.M$27.M2.M15.pA27.M27.M5.M$28.M16.pA.
pA2.3U14.2M4.M27.3M4.2M$28.M17.pA4.3U13.2M31.2M.M2.M.M.M$100.2M5.2M.M
$29.M.M70.M2.M.M.2M$26.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.2M23.M8.4M.M$26.M3.M2.3M
11.3U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$31.2M.M31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.2M.
Q.2Q.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M27.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U21.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.2M4.Q$27.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$28.2M3.4M.M
49.M2.M3.5Q3.M!
Alternative solution: rewind guns 1 tick. Gives slightly larger loaf count, as c/5 ship interaction starts a little bit later.
Should be 1_589_095_260_348_643 loaves, but I might've miscalculated.

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$20.O16.2pA3.pA.
pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$20.3O14.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S
13.Q18.Q.Q$23.O4.2A17.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$22.2O3.A2.A32.S.S3.S.S8.3M
9.Q$27.A.A3.2A29.S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$28.A3.A.A16.2S8.S5.S24.Q$32.2A16.S.S7.
S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$49.S2.S.S6.S5.S$20.2W.2W14.A9.2S2.2S3.S5.S$20.W3.W
13.A.A16.S.S3.S.S$21.3W15.A18.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W10.2W37.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$
3.2W11.2W28.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W16.3W16.U4.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$20.W
3.W.2W7.U3.U.U3.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$20.2W.2W.2W6.U.U3.U10.S.S3.S.S23.2M
6.2M$3.2W10.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W10.W.W38.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W.
W26.O11.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W.W20.U6.2O7.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M
9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W20.U.U5.2O6.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W24.U7.O7.2S16.S21.
2M14.Q$3.W6.2W20.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W19.U.U74.Q$3.2W5.W7.M7.3U3.
U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.3U8.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M16.3U
12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M
15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA
54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA5.U$19.4M31.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M28.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.
2M$26.M29.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M15.pA4.U16.6M27.M.2M2.2M
$28.M16.pA.pA2.U2.U18.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$52.U47.
3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M15.U54.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M11.U2.U15.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$
26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U17.2M2.3M
18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M
2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M
.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 2:16 pm

Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 12:54 pm
Alternative solution: rewind guns 1 tick. Gives slightly larger loaf count, as c/5 ship interaction starts a little bit later.
Should be 1_589_095_260_348_643 loaves, but I might've miscalculated.
This one produces 192_280_526_502_188_743 loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$20.O16.2pA3.pA.
pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$20.3O14.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S
13.Q18.Q.Q$23.O23.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$22.2O39.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$26.2A
36.S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$25.A2.A22.2S8.S5.S24.Q$25.A.A3.2A2.2A13.S.S7.S.S3.S.
S9.2M3.2M$26.A3.A.A2.2A12.S2.S.S6.S5.S$30.2A17.2S2.2S3.S5.S$43.U13.S.
S3.S.S$37.A4.U.U13.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W11.2W.2W14.A.A4.U11.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q
$3.2W12.W3.W15.A8.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W13.3W24.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$
13.2W20.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$13.2W19.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W
14.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.W3.W.2W30.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W
17.O11.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W22.U6.2O7.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q
2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W20.U.U5.2O6.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W20.U7.O7.2S16.S21.
2M14.Q$3.W6.2W20.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W19.U.U74.Q$3.2W5.W7.M7.3U3.
U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.3U8.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M16.3U
12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M
15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA
54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA5.U$19.4M31.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M28.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.
2M$26.M29.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M15.pA4.U16.6M27.M.2M2.2M
$28.M16.pA.pA2.U2.U18.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$52.U47.
3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M15.U54.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M11.U2.U15.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$
26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U17.2M2.3M
18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M
2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M
.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 2:47 pm

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 2:16 pm
Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 12:54 pm
Alternative solution: rewind guns 1 tick. Gives slightly larger loaf count, as c/5 ship interaction starts a little bit later.
Should be 1_589_095_260_348_643 loaves, but I might've miscalculated.
This one produces 192_280_526_502_188_743 loaves:
Another three factors of 121 bring us to 340_636_681_810_744_035_141_043 loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$20.O16.2pA3.pA.
pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$20.3O14.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S
13.Q18.Q.Q$23.O23.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$22.2O39.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$26.2A
36.S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$25.A2.A22.2S8.S5.S24.Q$13.2U10.A.A3.2A17.S.S7.S.S3.S
.S9.2M3.2M$13.2U11.A3.A.A16.S2.S.S6.S5.S$30.2A3.2A5.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$
36.A4.A.A13.S.S3.S.S$33.3A5.2A15.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W11.2W.2W11.A4.A16.S5.S
8.pA.pA25.2Q$3.2W12.W3.W15.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W13.3W17.A6.
O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$13.2W20.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$13.2W19.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.
2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W14.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.W3.W.2W30.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.
3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W17.O11.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W22.U6.2O7.S3.S
10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W20.U.U5.2O6.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W
20.U7.O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W6.2W20.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W19.U.U74.
Q$3.2W5.W7.M7.3U3.U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.3U8.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.
W.W4.2M.M2.M16.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.
Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$
17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA5.U$19.4M31.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M28.U
2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$26.M29.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M15.pA4.U16.
6M27.M.2M2.2M$28.M16.pA.pA2.U2.U18.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M
.M5.M$52.U47.3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M15.U54.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M11.U2.U15.M2.2M
23.M7.4M4.2Q$26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M
13.U17.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q
$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M
6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
EDIT: corrected by adding an extra block
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 4:34 pm

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 2:47 pm
Another three factors of 121 bring us to 340_636_681_810_744_035_141_043 loaves:
Another two factors of 121 bring us to 4_987_261_658_391_103_418_500_369_243 loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$37.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$37.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$18.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$18.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$21.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$20.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$13.2U9.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$
13.2U8.A2.A22.S2.S.S6.S5.S$23.A.A3.2A11.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$24.A3.A.A10.
A.A13.S.S3.S.S$28.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W11.2W.2W12.A3.A16.S5.S8.
pA.pA25.2Q$3.2W12.W3.W9.3A3.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W13.3W10.A
4.A.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$13.2W20.A.A7.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$13.2W21.A14.S.S
3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W12.U18.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.W3.W.2W7.U.U20.S15.
2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W8.U20.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W38.
S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W26.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W25.
2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W6.2W28.2O26.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W29.O66.Q$3.2W
5.W7.M7.3U17.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.3U18.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M
31.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M29.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M31.pA
6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M27.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M
22.pA5.U$19.4M31.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M28.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$26.M29.U6.2M2.M
.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M15.pA4.U16.6M27.M.2M2.2M$28.M16.pA.pA2.U2.
U18.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$52.U47.3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M
15.U54.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M11.U2.U15.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$26.M3.M2.3M10.U
2.U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U17.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q
5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M
3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 18th, 2023, 7:54 pm

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 4:34 pm
calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 2:47 pm
Another three factors of 121 bring us to 340_636_681_810_744_035_141_043 loaves:
Another two factors of 121 bring us to 4_987_261_658_391_103_418_500_369_243 loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$37.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$37.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$18.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$18.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$21.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$20.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$13.2U9.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$
13.2U8.A2.A22.S2.S.S6.S5.S$23.A.A3.2A11.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$24.A3.A.A10.
A.A13.S.S3.S.S$28.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W11.2W.2W12.A3.A16.S5.S8.
pA.pA25.2Q$3.2W12.W3.W9.3A3.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W13.3W10.A
4.A.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$13.2W20.A.A7.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$13.2W21.A14.S.S
3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W12.U18.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.W3.W.2W7.U.U20.S15.
2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W8.U20.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W38.
S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W26.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W25.
2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W6.2W28.2O26.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W29.O66.Q$3.2W
5.W7.M7.3U17.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.3U18.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M
31.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M29.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M31.pA
6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M27.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M
22.pA5.U$19.4M31.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M28.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$26.M29.U6.2M2.M
.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M15.pA4.U16.6M27.M.2M2.2M$28.M16.pA.pA2.U2.
U18.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$52.U47.3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M
15.U54.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M11.U2.U15.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$26.M3.M2.3M10.U
2.U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U17.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q
5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M
3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » July 19th, 2023, 12:14 am

Wow.

Here's 5,233,505,003,085,880,263,329,322,673:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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Is there a faster way to find the number of loaves other than manually placing a block to use the magic of the diehard, subtracting the leftover blocks and history cells and dividing by 7?
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 19th, 2023, 1:01 am

toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 12:14 am
Wow.

Here's 5,233,505,003,085,880,263,329,322,673:
Impressive! In base 11, you've increased it from 420375573925555555555555533 to 443375578925555555555555533. (It seems that small changes to the pattern cause the base-11 representation of the number of loaves to change by a small Levenshtein distance; for example, every additional glider absorbed by the fuse-activating constellation simply lengthened that string of '5's by an extra two digits.)

Just out of interest, what was the rationale for replacing a toad with a pair of mangoes?
toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 12:14 am
Is there a faster way to find the number of loaves other than manually placing a block to use the magic of the diehard, subtracting the leftover blocks and history cells and dividing by 7?
I just run the pattern normally and then look at the x-coordinate of the leftmost loaf, divide it by 8, and then add 1. (This works because the rightmost loaf has x-coordinate 0.)
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » July 19th, 2023, 1:24 am

calcyman wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 1:01 am
Just out of interest, what was the rationale for replacing a toad with a pair of mangoes?
While they fit in the same space as a toad, the mangoes consume one more glider:

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x = 89, y = 41, rule = LifeSuper
58.M$58.M.M$58.2M5$58.M$56.2M$57.2M11$8.M29.M39.M$8.M.M27.M.M37.M.M$
8.2M28.2M38.2M5$8.M29.M39.M$6.2M28.2M38.2M$7.2M28.2M38.2M$2M28.2M38.
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42.2U38.2U$46.2U39.2U$45.U2.U37.U.U$44.U2.U37.U.U$45.2U38.2U!
I only replaced the one because they can't fit consecutively and I don't feel like doing an LLS search to put one in the previous spot. I can't remember why I didn't use any mangoes in my previous pointless optimization.
Impressive! In base 11, you've increased it from 420375573925555555555555533 to 443375578925555555555555533. (It seems that small changes to the pattern cause the base-11 representation of the number of loaves to change by a small Levenshtein distance; for example, every additional glider absorbed by the fuse-activating constellation simply lengthened that string of '5's by an extra two digits.)
That factoid about the loaves in base 11 is pretty interesting. It looks to me like the lime-green delays shift everything by 2 digits (the toads and mangoes decrease it slightly). I think 5 comes from the facts that delaying the fuse 24 generations makes another loaf and that 120=24*5. Incidentally, because I had mistakenly calculated the loaf value when the mango is one space forward (not realizing it sticks out one cell), that would give us 443375A73925555555555555533 loaves, which has one space increased by 5 and another decreased by 5, as one would expect.

It's definitely interesting but just useless trivia. However, it could maybe provide a way to determine how many loaves without running the pattern.
I just run the pattern normally and then look at the x-coordinate of the leftmost loaf, divide it by 8, and then add 1. (This works because the rightmost loaf has x-coordinate 0.)
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll just divide the population by 7 because zooming in 30+ times is annoying.

EDIT: By improving the green cleanup, we can replace the lime toad with two tubs, which is a very small improvement (it doesn't add any loaves):

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by May13 » July 19th, 2023, 2:40 am

toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 1:24 am
EDIT: By improving the green cleanup, we can replace the lime toad with two tubs, which is a very small improvement (it doesn't add any loaves):

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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25.2Q$3.2W3.W.W6.W3.W9.3A3.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$4.W3.W.W7.3W
10.A4.A.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$9.W3.2W20.A.A7.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$13.2W11.W
9.A14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W4.W.W5.U18.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.W3.W3.
2W5.U.U20.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W11.U20.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W
3.2W2.W.W17.U20.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W15.U.U8.O9.S.S13.
3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W15.U9.2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W6.2W28.2O26.2S21.2M17.
Q$3.W.W4.2W29.O66.Q$3.2W5.W7.M11.U75.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M8.U.U14.2pA57.3Q.
2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M9.U14.pA.pA4.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M5.U17.pA5.pA
.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M5.U.U15.2pA6.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M5.U21.pA
8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M7.2pA13.pA5.U$19.4M10.pA.pA
4.pA5.pA7.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M8.pA4.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$26.M
13.pA5.pA9.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M37.6M27.M.2M2.2M$28.M
22.2U19.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M21.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$51.U2.U45.3M2.3M2.M$29.M.
M8.3pA4.U4.2U48.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M4.3pA4.U2.U6.2U7.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$
26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U5.U2.U4.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U5.U2.
U8.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U11.2U9.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q
$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M
6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
One column cut off, 110x90 variant:

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x = 110, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
20.6Q23.8Q.Q$18.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$20.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$42.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$43.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$43.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$44.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$47.2M5.M8.2M$38.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$29.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$29.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$43.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$44.pA
$22.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$22.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$30.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$30.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$31.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$36.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$35.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$34.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$33.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$20.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$20.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$21.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$22.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$36.2O37.2M11.M$22.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$29.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$54.M23.2M13.M2.M$43.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$41.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$20.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$21.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$18.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$18.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$30.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$29.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$24.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$26.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$23.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$24.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$42.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$36.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$36.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$17.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$17.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$20.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$19.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$23.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$22.A
2.A22.S2.S.S6.S5.S$22.A.A3.2A11.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$23.A3.A.A10.A.A13.S.
S3.S.S$2.2W4.W2.W15.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA$W3.W3.3W5.2W.2W12.A3.A16.S
5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$3W.3W.W7.W3.W9.3A3.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$2.2W.
2W5.2W3.3W10.A4.A.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$6.W2.W4.W19.A.A7.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.
Q$W.2W.4W.4W11.W9.A14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$7.W3.W5.3W4.W.W5.U18.S5.S18.S
5.M$W2.2W6.2W.W.W3.W3.2W5.U.U20.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W.W4.2W.W3.W.2W.2W11.U
20.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$2W.3W.W2.W.W16.U20.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$W
2.2W.2W4.W15.U.U8.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$2W2.W2.4W3.W14.U9.2O9.2S16.S21.
2M14.Q$2W.2W4.W29.2O26.2S21.2M17.Q$.3W2.2W.W.W28.O66.Q$4.W.W2.W7.M11.
U75.2Q2.Q$.4W11.M2.M8.U.U14.2pA57.3Q.2Q$6.W.W4.2M.M2.M9.U14.pA.pA4.pA
7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$6.2W6.M5.M5.U17.pA5.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$15.5M5.U.
U15.2pA6.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$16.M.M.M5.U21.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$16.5M26.pA.pA54.
2Q.Q.Q$17.M7.M7.2pA13.pA5.U$18.4M10.pA.pA4.pA5.pA7.U2.U11.M$19.M3.2M
8.pA4.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$25.M13.pA5.pA9.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.
M.M.M.M2.M$26.M2.M37.6M27.M.2M2.2M$27.M22.2U19.M31.2M2.M.M$27.M21.U2.
U45.M2.M.M5.M$50.U2.U45.3M2.3M2.M$28.M.M8.3pA4.U4.2U48.3M4.Q$25.M.M2.
M2.M4.3pA4.U2.U6.2U7.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$25.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U5.U2.U4.3M2.
2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$30.2M.M13.U5.U2.U8.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$
27.M.M2.4M.M4.U11.2U9.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$25.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$26.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$27.2M
3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » July 19th, 2023, 3:02 am

Alright, now we have 633,254,105,373,391,511,862,848,046,372 (6.33*10^29) loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$37.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$37.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$18.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$18.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$21.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$20.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$13.2W9.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$
13.2W8.A2.A8.2A12.S2.S.S6.S5.S$23.A.A3.2A3.A.A5.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$24.A
3.A.A3.A6.A.A13.S.S3.S.S$10.2W16.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W4.W.W4.2W
.2W16.A16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$3.2W7.W4.W3.W15.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.
Q$4.W7.W.W3.3W17.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$13.W.W29.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$14.W14.
2U8.U11.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W3.2W3.U4.2U2.U.U11.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W
13.W3.W.W.W5.U2.2U3.U15.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W5.2U22.S.S
14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W38.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W
26.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W25.2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W6.2W28.2O26.
2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W29.O66.Q$3.2W5.W7.M87.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M5.U19.2pA
57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M4.U.U17.pA.pA4.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M4.U
.U16.pA5.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M6.2U15.2pA6.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.
M.M27.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M7.2pA13.pA5.U$19.
4M10.pA.pA4.pA5.pA7.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M8.pA4.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.U2.U5.2M3.M.
M.2M$26.M13.pA5.pA9.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M37.6M27.M.2M2.
2M$28.M22.2U19.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M21.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$51.U2.U45.3M2.3M2.
M$29.M.M8.3pA4.U4.2U48.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.M2.M4.3pA4.U2.U6.2U7.M2.2M23.M7.
4M4.2Q$26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U5.U2.U4.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M
13.U5.U2.U8.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M4.U11.2U9.2M2.3M19.
2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M
10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
By the way, the base 11 property came in useful. I made a typo and noticed that when I didn't see any consecutive 5s.
May13 wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 2:40 am
One column cut off, 110x90 variant:
That's nice but I can't see a use for it. We need to remove 2 columns to add another row. But with one column, we can shift the wickstretcher forward 1 cell. This means it won't be cleanly destroyed, since it requires a specific timing mod 24.
There might be a shifter or cleanup with a different timing; I only looked at the one timing (and one phase for the central glider) and don't know enough about shifters.

On an unrelated note, maybe it's time to think about using gliders to activate a buckaroo again?
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 19th, 2023, 4:03 am

toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 3:02 am
On an unrelated note, maybe it's time to think about using gliders to activate a buckaroo again?
That would only increase the number of loaves by comparatively little.
The most promising next idea is to ignite the fuse with the block-pull operation from the second sawtooth. Number of loaves would be tetrational then.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 19th, 2023, 7:12 am

toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 3:02 am
Alright, now we have 633,254,105,373,391,511,862,848,046,372 (6.33*10^29) loaves:
Oh nice! You can replace that longboat with a longship and discard the aircraft carrier, leaving room for a few more SLs, thereby giving us 9 more factors of 121.

Now 3520840464305553402470768296530766292673698139673 (3.52*10^48) loaves. In base 11 it's 44337557892555555555555555555555555555555555533.

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$45.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$48.2M5.M8.2M$39.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$45.pA
$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$21.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$23.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$37.2O37.2M11.M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$30.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$55.M23.2M13.M2.M$44.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$42.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$22.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$19.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$19.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$31.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$25.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$37.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$37.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$18.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$18.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$21.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$20.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$13.2W9.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$
13.2W8.A2.A8.2A12.S2.S.S6.S5.S$23.A.A3.2A3.A.A5.2A5.2S2.2S3.S5.S$24.A
3.A.A3.A6.A.A13.S.S3.S.S$10.2W16.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA$3.W.W4.W.W4.2W
.2W16.A16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$3.2W7.W4.W3.W15.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.
Q$4.W7.W.W3.3W17.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$13.W.W29.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$14.W18.
U5.U11.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.2W13.3W3.2W6.U.U3.U.U11.S5.S18.S5.M$3.W13.
W3.W.W.W5.U.U5.U15.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W5.3W4.W3.2W.2W.2W5.U.U21.S.S14.2S
7.S5.M7.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W18.U19.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W6.2W3.W14.
U5.U5.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$9.2W3.W12.U.U3.U.U4.2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W
6.2W16.U5.U5.2O26.2S21.2M17.Q$3.W.W4.2W19.U9.O66.Q$3.2W5.W7.M11.U.U
73.2Q2.Q$7.W9.M2.M4.2U4.U14.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.W.W4.2M.M2.M4.U.U17.pA.pA4.
pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$7.2W6.M5.M4.U.U16.pA5.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M
6.2U15.2pA6.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M27.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.
2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M7.2pA13.pA5.U$19.4M10.pA.pA4.pA5.pA7.U2.U11.M$20.M3.2M
8.pA4.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$26.M13.pA5.pA9.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.
M.M.M.M2.M$27.M2.M37.6M27.M.2M2.2M$28.M22.2U19.M31.2M2.M.M$28.M21.U2.
U45.M2.M.M5.M$51.U2.U45.3M2.3M2.M$29.M.M8.3pA4.U4.2U48.3M4.Q$26.M.M2.
M2.M4.3pA4.U2.U6.2U7.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$26.M3.M2.3M10.U2.U5.U2.U4.3M2.
2M2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$31.2M.M13.U5.U2.U8.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$
28.M.M2.4M.M4.U11.2U9.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.U2.U20.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$27.5M10.U2.U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$28.2M
3.4M.M5.U43.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 19th, 2023, 8:01 am

We could replace the green toads on the bottom with a filter that filters out one of every two blocks, almost doubling the amount of 121 factors. It’ll get rid of 4 expansion factors, give or take, but that doesn’t make it any worse. There’s one problem though, how do we kill the filter?

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by EvinZL » July 19th, 2023, 12:23 pm

49_107_024_580_269_359_102_709_988_500_794_315_776_818_460_186_053_483 (5x10^52) loaves: (EDIT: fixed issue)

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x = 109, y = 91, rule = B3/S23
19b6o23b8obo$17b10o21b2obobo4b3o24b2o15bo$19b2o2b2o26bo3b2o28b2o8b2o5b
o$41b2o13b2o2bo33bo2bo4bo$42bo12bo39b2o8b2o$42bobo5b2o4bobobo21b2o21b
obo$43b2o7bo29b2o22bo$46b2o5bo8b2o$37b3o6b2o5bo8b2o21b2o8bo$28b2o6b3o
7b2o5bo31b2o6b3o4b2o$28b2o13bo8bo39bo7b2o$42bobo5b2o40b2o$43bo$21b2o17b
o5bo50b2o7b3o$21b2o6bo9bobo3bobo18bo30b2o6bobo$29b2o7bobo5bo3b2o13bob
o37bo$29b2o6bobo3bo6b2o14b2o35bobob2o$30bo5bobo3bobo9bo5b2o20bo2bo19b
2obo$35bobo5bo9bobo3bo2bo21b4o9bo6bobobo$34bobo17bobo3b2o19bo13b2o9b2o
$33bobo19bobo24b2o2b2o8b2o8bo$32bobo21bo45b2o$19b2o3b2o5bobo6b2o5b2o4b
o28b2o17bobo$19b2o3b2o4bobo7b2o5bo4bobo3b2o21b2o18bo$20b5o6bo13bobo5b
o4bobo21b2o4b2o10b2o$21bobo21b2o12b2o13b2o14bo$35b2o37b2o11bo$21b3o4b
2o5b2o51b2o$28b2o23b2o22b2o14bo8b3o$53bo23b2o13bo2bo$42bo8bobo13b2o23b
o2bo$40bobo8b2o14bobo13b2o9bo$19b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o28b2o4b2o6bobo$20bo4bo
bo4b2o4b2o24bo9b2o6b2o5b2o$17b3o6b2o10b2o23bobo13bo9b2o$17bo22bobo21b
o6bo6bobo23bobo$29bo12bo27bobo4bobo12b2o11b4o$28bobo39bobo3bobo13b2o9b
ob2o$23b2o4bobo39bo5bo6bo18bo4bo$25bo4bobo25b2o8bo5bo7b3o18b3ob2o$22b
o8bo25bobo7bobo3bobo5bo7b2o13b3obo$23b2o31bo2bobo6bo5bo6b2o6b2o12bo3b
2o$41bo5b2o7b2o2b2o3bo5bo33bobo$35b2o3bobo3bobo4bo10bobo3bobo12bo17bo
2bobo$35b2o4bo4bo5bobo10bo5bo13bo18bobo$16bo28b2o6bo8bo5bo9b3o4bo$16b
3o12b2o28bobo3bobo8b3o9bo$19bo11b2o29bo5bo8bo3bo8bo$18b2o29b2o8bo5bo24b
o$b2o8b2o9b2o24bobo7bobo3bobo9b2o3b2o$5o6b2o8bo2bo8b2o12bo2bobo6bo5bo
$2ob2o16bobo3b2o3bobo5b2o5b2o2b2o3bo5bo$5b3o14bo3bobo3bo6bobo13bobo3b
obo$2o2bo3bo17b2o3b2o6b2o15bo5bo6bo$2bo2bo5bo3b2ob2o16bo16bo5bo8bobo25b
2o$9b4o2bo3bo15bobo6bo7bobo3bobo8bo25bo2bo$b4o3bob3o3b3o17bo6bobo7bo5b
o36bobo$bo5bo4b2o29b2o5bo5bo32b2o6bo$4b3ob2o21bo5bo11bobo3bobo23b2o6b
2o$2o3bo2bo2bo4b3o3b2o6bobo3bobo11bo5bo18bo5bo$ob3o3b2ob2o2bo3bobobo5b
obo5bo15bo15b2o4b3o4b3o$2o2b2ob2o2b2o2b2ob2ob2o5bobo21bobo14b2o7bo5bo
7b2o$o2b3o5bo17bo19bo3bo10bo12b2o13b2o9bo2bobo$2o3bo2b2o3bo12bo5bo5bo
9bobo13b3o37bobobo$o5b4o15bobo3bobo4b2o9b2o16bo21b2o14bo$2obo5bobo14b
o5bo5b2o26b2o21b2o17bo$o3bob2o3bo17bo9bo66bo$bo7b2o5bo11bobo13b2o58b2o
2bo$b3ob2o8bo2bo4b2o4bo3b2o9b2o57b3ob2o$3bo4bo3b2obo2bo4bobo7bo16bo7b
2o5bo37b2o3bo$b2o2bo3bo3bo5bo4bobo7b3o12bobo5bobo4bobo37b2ob2o$obo2b3o
6b5o6b2o9bo13bo6bo6b2o38bo$2ob3obo7bobobo27bo8b2o45b3o2bo$2ob2o2bobo5b
5o26bobo54b2obobo$16bo7bo22bo5bo$17b4o31bo2bo11bo$18bo3b2o28bo2bo5b2o
3bobob2o$24bo29bo6b2o2bob3ob2o24bobobobo2bo$25bo2bo15bo4bo16b6o27bob2o
2b2o$26bo16bobo2bo2bo18bo31b2o2bobo$26bo17bo3bo2bo45bo2bobo5bo$50bo47b
3o2b3o2bo$25bo10b2obo5bo54b3o4bo$22b2o2bob4o2bo9bo2bo43bo7b4o4b2o$22b
obobo5bobo2bobo4bo2bo39bob5o3b5o3bob2o$24b2o2bo5b2o3b2o5bo22bobo17b2o
b2o4bobobo5bo$22bo5bo2bo2bob3o2bo25bobo20b2o2b2o6b2o$24b2ob2o2bo4bobo
2bobo20bob2obo4bo10b2o2b2obo8bobob3o$25bob2o2b4o2bobo2bo22bo5bo2bo10b
o3b2ob6o2bob7o$23b2obobo3b3ob2ob3obo28b3o11bo2bo3b5o2b2ob2obo$22b2obo
2b4obobo2b4ob2o!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 19th, 2023, 1:31 pm

EvinZL wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 12:23 pm
49_107_024_580_269_359_102_709_988_500_794_315_776_818_460_186_053_483 (5x10^52) loaves: (EDIT: fixed issue)
Awesome! Here's another factor of 121, for 5941949974212592451427908608596112208995033682512474383 (6e54) loaves, by making your fishhook more complicated:

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x = 109, y = 91, rule = LifeSuper
19.6Q23.8Q.Q$17.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$19.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q
5.Q$41.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$42.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$42.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M
21.Q.Q$43.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$46.2M5.M8.2M$37.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$28.2Q
6.3O7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$28.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$42.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$43.pA
$21.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$21.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$29.2O7.
pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$29.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$30.O5.pA
.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$35.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M
.M.M$34.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$33.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M
8.M$32.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$19.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$19.2M
3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$20.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.
2M4.2M10.2M$21.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$35.2O37.2M11.M$21.3M4.2pA5.2O
51.2M$28.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$53.M23.2M13.M2.M$42.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.
M$40.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$19.2M4.2pA5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$20.M4.
pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$17.3M6.2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$17.M
22.M.M21.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$29.pA12.M27.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$28.pA.pA39.S
.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$23.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$25.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S
5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$22.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$23.2O31.S2.S.S
6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$41.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$35.2pA3.pA.pA3.
pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$35.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q
$16.O28.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$16.3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$19.O11.2A29.
S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$18.2O29.2S8.S5.S24.Q$.2W8.2W9.2A24.S.S7.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.
2M$5W6.2W8.A2.A8.2A12.S2.S.S6.S5.S$2W.2W16.A.A3.2A3.A.A5.2A5.2S2.2S3.
S5.S$5.3W14.A3.A.A3.A6.A.A13.S.S3.S.S$2W2.W3.W17.2A3.2A6.2A15.S5.S6.pA
$2.W2.W5.W3.2W.2W16.A16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$9.4W2.W3.W15.A.A6.O7.S.S3.S.
S8.pA25.Q2.Q$.4W3.W.3W3.3W17.A6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$.W5.W4.2W29.2O5.S5.S
32.2M6.Q$4.3W.2W21.U5.U11.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$2W3.W2.W2.W4.3W3.2W6.U.U
3.U.U11.S5.S18.S5.M$W.3W3.2W.2W2.W3.W.W.W5.U.U5.U15.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$2W
2.2W.2W2.2W2.2W.2W.2W5.U.U21.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W2.3W5.W17.U19.S3.S
10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W3.W2.2W3.W12.U5.U5.O9.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$W5.4W
15.U.U3.U.U4.2O9.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$2W.W5.W.W14.U5.U5.2O26.2S21.2M17.Q$W
3.W.2W3.W17.U9.O66.Q$.W7.2W5.M11.U.U13.2pA58.2Q2.Q$.3W.2W8.M2.M4.2U4.
U3.2U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$3.W4.W3.2M.M2.M4.U.U7.U16.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$.2W2.W
3.W3.M5.M4.U.U7.3U12.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$W.W2.3W6.5M6.2U9.U13.pA
6.S6.2Q38.Q$2W.3W.W7.M.M.M13.U.U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$2W.2W2.W.W5.5M13.2U
11.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$16.M7.M6.2U14.pA5.U$17.4M8.U2.U19.U2.U11.M$18.M3.2M
5.2U21.U2.U5.2M3.M.M.2M$24.M6.4U19.U6.2M2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$25.M2.
M.U.3U9.pA4.U16.6M27.M.2M2.2M$26.M16.pA.pA2.U2.U18.M31.2M2.M.M$26.M
17.pA3.U2.U45.M2.M.M5.M$50.U47.3M2.3M2.M$25.M10.2U.U5.U54.3M4.Q$22.2M
2.M.4M2.U9.U2.U15.M2.2M23.M7.4M4.2Q$22.M.M.M5.M.U2.U.U4.U2.U13.3M2.2M
2.M16.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$24.2M2.M5.2U3.2U5.U17.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$
22.M5.M2.M2.U.3U2.U22.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$24.2M.2M2.M4.U.U2.U.U20.2M
6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$25.M.2M2.2M2U2.U.U2.U22.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M.
7Q$23.2M.M.M3.M2U.2U.3U.U42.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q$22.2M.M2.4M.U.U2.4U.2U!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 19th, 2023, 2:17 pm

Could we replace the toads with a loaf making fuse? something like this:

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x = 109, y = 90, rule = B3/S23Super
19.6Q23.8Q.Q$17.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$19.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q5.
Q$41.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q4.Q$42.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$42.M.M5.2M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.
Q.Q$43.2M7.M29.2M22.Q$46.2M5.M8.2M$37.3O6.2M5.M8.2M21.2M8.M$28.2Q6.3O
7.2M5.M31.2M6.3M4.2M$28.2Q13.pA8.M39.M7.2M$42.pA.pA5.2M40.2M$43.pA$21.
2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$21.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$29.2O7.pA.pA
5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$29.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$30.O5.pA.pA3.
pA.pA9.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$35.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M.M.M$
34.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$33.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M8.M$32.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 19th, 2023, 3:36 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 2:17 pm
Could we replace the toads with a loaf making fuse? something like this:
Yes, we could. I guess a sacrifice of cyan delayers would have to be made, together with another redesign of cyan eater deletion to make space for fuse-starting constellation.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by dvgrn » July 19th, 2023, 4:51 pm

Pavgran wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 3:36 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 2:17 pm
Could we replace the toads with a loaf making fuse? something like this:
Yes, we could. I guess a sacrifice of cyan delayers would have to be made, together with another redesign of cyan eater deletion to make space for fuse-starting constellation.
Any hope of lighting one of the fuses only after all the loaves in the other fuse have been used up?

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 19th, 2023, 5:01 pm

dvgrn wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 4:51 pm
Any hope of lighting one of the fuses only after all the loaves in the other fuse have been used up?
That's the plan, yes. Second fuse ignites only after the first sawtooth manages to pull block completely (after eating toads in the current design). So, it would ignite only after all the loaves in the proposed fuse would be eaten. It will supposedly be ignited after most of the internal delayer SL will be eaten up.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 20th, 2023, 12:56 am

Well, that looks something like this:

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x = 109, y = 94, rule = LifeSuper
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It doesn't fit in 10000 area. It did initially, but I had to fix a mistake by pushing the crab forward 4 ticks, and now I can't find space dust that could allow it to fit again. I'm too tired to fix it myself.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by May13 » July 20th, 2023, 3:09 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 20th, 2023, 12:56 am
Well, that looks something like this:

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x = 109, y = 94, rule = LifeSuper
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3.5M3.Q.2Q$27.M.3M11.S6.S.S14.3M19.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.2M.M3.M7.3S5.2S
12.M3.2M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$29.3M.2M16.2S15.M16.2M2.2M.M8.M.Q.3Q$31.M15.S
11.S5.M.M3.2M.2M9.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$32.2M12.S7.S2.2S13.M2.M10.M2.M3.5Q2.
2M.2Q.Q$33.M12.3S4.2S3.2S12.3M$51.S$50.S$50.3S!
It doesn't fit in 10000 area. It did initially, but I had to fix a mistake by pushing the crab forward 4 ticks, and now I can't find space dust that could allow it to fit again. I'm too tired to fix it myself.
This variant fits (bounding box 109x91=9919):

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x = 109, y = 91, rule = LifeSuper
18.8Q20.12Q4.5Q2.Q15.2M15.Q$19.Q4.Q22.Q3.2Q8.2Q.Q.4Q.Q13.2M8.2Q5.Q$
41.2M4.Q4.2Q9.4Q27.Q2.Q4.Q$42.M4.2Q46.2Q8.2Q$42.M.M8.Q3.M24.2M21.Q.Q$
43.2M3.Q.2Q.Q2.M25.2M22.Q$48.2Q6.3M3.2M$37.3O8.2Q12.2M21.2M8.M$28.2Q
6.3O46.2M6.3M4.2M$28.2Q13.pA9.3M36.M7.2M$42.pA.pA8.M38.2M$43.pA8.3M$
21.2M17.pA5.pA4.2pA7.2M35.2M7.3M$21.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA4.2pA6.2M4.Q
30.2M6.M.M$29.2O7.pA.pA5.pA2.pA.pA13.Q.Q37.M$29.2O6.pA.pA3.pA22.2Q35.
M.M.2M$30.O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.pA2.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$35.pA.pA5.pA6.pA
2.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M.M.M$34.pA.pA13.pA3.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$
33.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M8.M$32.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$19.2M3.2M5.pA.pA
6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$19.2M3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$
20.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.2M4.2M10.2M$21.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$
35.2O37.2M11.M$21.3M4.2pA5.2O51.2M$28.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$53.M23.2M
13.M2.M$42.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.M$40.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$19.2M4.2pA
5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$20.M4.pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$17.3M6.
2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$17.M22.M.M11.2pA8.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$29.pA12.M
10.pA.pA14.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$28.pA.pA22.pA16.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$23.
2O4.pA.pA20.2pA17.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$25.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$
22.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$23.2O31.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M
12.Q3.2Q$41.pA14.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$35.2pA3.pA.pA10.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q
17.Q2.Q.Q$35.2pA4.pA10.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q$16.O36.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$16.
3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$19.O11.2A29.S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$18.2O39.S5.S24.Q$
.2W8.2W9.2A34.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$5W6.2W8.A2.A8.2A24.S5.S$2W.2W16.A.A3.
2A3.A.A5.2A14.S5.S$5.3W14.A3.A.A3.A6.A.A13.S.S3.S.S7.S$2W2.W3.W17.2A
3.2A6.2A9.S5.S5.S7.S.S$2.W2.W5.W3.2W.2W16.A13.3S6.S11.2S23.2Q$9.4W2.W
3.W15.A.A6.O8.S4.S.S34.Q2.Q$.4W3.W.3W3.3W17.A6.O.O6.2S5.S36.Q.Q$.W5.W
4.2W29.2O11.S32.2M6.Q$4.3W.2W21.U5.U9.2S6.S.S23.2M6.2M$2W3.W2.W2.W4.
3W3.2W6.U.U3.U.U8.2S7.S24.M$W.3W3.2W.2W2.W3.W.W.W5.U.U5.U44.3M$2W2.2W
.2W2.2W2.2W.2W.2W5.U.U53.M7.2M$W2.3W5.W17.U16.S45.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W3.W2.
2W3.W12.U5.U5.O6.S.S56.Q.Q.Q$W5.4W15.U.U3.U.U4.2O6.S15.S16.2S8.2M14.Q
$2W.W5.W.W14.U5.U5.2O3.3S15.S2.S15.S8.2M17.Q$W3.W.2W3.W17.U9.O3.S17.S
2.S15.S.S23.Q$.W7.2W5.M11.U.U32.S17.2S21.2Q2.Q$.3W.2W8.M2.M4.2U4.U3.
2U15.S3.4S.S10.S32.3Q.2Q$3.W4.W3.2M.M2.M4.U.U7.U15.S.S5.2S6.Q4.3S30.
2Q3.Q$.2W2.W3.W3.M5.M4.U.U7.3U6.2S4.S2.S3.S2.S4.Q.Q6.S30.2Q.2Q$W.W2.
3W6.5M6.2U9.U5.S7.2S4.S.S2.S2.2Q6.2S30.Q$2W.3W.W7.M.M.M13.U.U9.S9.S
47.3Q2.Q$2W.2W2.W.W5.5M13.2U8.2S10.2S3.2S41.2Q.Q.Q$16.M7.M6.2U24.S.2S
.S$17.4M8.U2.U15.3S2.2S.S10.M$18.M3.2M5.2U19.S2.3S2.S.SM.S2.M.M.2M$
24.M6.4U13.2S7.S3.2S2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$25.M2.M.U.3U17.S2.4S.S5.6M
27.M.2M2.2M$26.M25.S.2S14.M31.2M2.M.M$26.M20.2S2.2S3.S.S.S36.M2.M.M5.
M$46.S7.S43.3M2.3M2.M$27.M12.S2.S2.S.3S5.S.S41.3M4.Q$27.M.2M.M11.S4.
2S.5S.3S30.M7.4M4.2Q$26.2M.M.M.2M5.3S4.S.S2.S3.S4.S25.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$
27.M.3M10.S2.S.S.S5.S5.S5.3M19.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.2M.M3.M5.3S.S4.3S.
2S3.S.S3.M3.2M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$29.3M.2M5.2S5.S3.3S.S.S2.S.2S4.M16.2M2.2M
.M8.M.Q.3Q$31.M8.2S2.2S2.S2.S.S3.S4.2S.M.M3.2M.2M9.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$32.
2M8.2S.S7.S3.S.S3.2S7.M2.M10.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q$33.M6.2S.S.2S.S.S.S.S.
2S2.S.3S7.3M$40.3S4.8S5.S.2S!
The latest version of hex-gliders.db have 668 gliders from OT hexagonal rules. Let's find more!
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My scripts: new-glider.py v0.2, nbsearch2a.py, collector.py v0.3

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 20th, 2023, 7:29 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 4:03 am
toroidalet wrote:
July 19th, 2023, 3:02 am
On an unrelated note, maybe it's time to think about using gliders to activate a buckaroo again?
That would only increase the number of loaves by comparatively little.
The most promising next idea is to ignite the fuse with the block-pull operation from the second sawtooth. Number of loaves would be tetrational then.
I like that idea, we could use it not once but twice

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 20th, 2023, 8:11 am

May13 wrote:
July 20th, 2023, 3:09 am
This variant fits (bounding box 109x91=9919):

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x = 109, y = 91, rule = LifeSuper
18.8Q20.12Q4.5Q2.Q15.2M15.Q$19.Q4.Q22.Q3.2Q8.2Q.Q.4Q.Q13.2M8.2Q5.Q$
41.2M4.Q4.2Q9.4Q27.Q2.Q4.Q$42.M4.2Q46.2Q8.2Q$42.M.M8.Q3.M24.2M21.Q.Q$
43.2M3.Q.2Q.Q2.M25.2M22.Q$48.2Q6.3M3.2M$37.3O8.2Q12.2M21.2M8.M$28.2Q
6.3O46.2M6.3M4.2M$28.2Q13.pA9.3M36.M7.2M$42.pA.pA8.M38.2M$43.pA8.3M$
21.2M17.pA5.pA4.2pA7.2M35.2M7.3M$21.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA4.2pA6.2M4.Q
30.2M6.M.M$29.2O7.pA.pA5.pA2.pA.pA13.Q.Q37.M$29.2O6.pA.pA3.pA22.2Q35.
M.M.2M$30.O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA6.pA2.pA5.2Q20.M2.M19.2M.M$35.pA.pA5.pA6.pA
2.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.4M9.M6.M.M.M$34.pA.pA13.pA3.pA.pA3.2Q19.M13.2M9.2M$
33.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.2M2.2M8.2M8.M$32.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$19.2M3.2M5.pA.pA
6.2O5.2O4.pA28.2M17.M.M$19.2M3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.2M18.M$
20.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA21.2M4.2M10.2M$21.M.M21.2O12.2pA13.2M14.M$
35.2O37.2M11.M$21.3M4.2pA5.2O51.2M$28.2pA23.2M22.2M14.M8.3M$53.M23.2M
13.M2.M$42.M8.M.M13.2pA23.M2.M$40.M.M8.2M14.pA.pA13.2S9.M$19.2M4.2pA
5.2M4.2M28.2pA4.2M6.S.S$20.M4.pA.pA4.2M4.2M24.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$17.3M6.
2pA10.2M23.pA.pA13.S9.2M$17.M22.M.M11.2pA8.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$29.pA12.M
10.pA.pA14.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$28.pA.pA22.pA16.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$23.
2O4.pA.pA20.2pA17.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$25.O4.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$
22.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$23.2O31.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M
12.Q3.2Q$41.pA14.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$35.2pA3.pA.pA10.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q
17.Q2.Q.Q$35.2pA4.pA10.O.O10.S5.S13.Q18.Q.Q$16.O36.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$16.
3O12.2A28.S.S3.S.S8.3M9.Q$19.O11.2A29.S5.S8.M3.M8.Q$18.2O39.S5.S24.Q$
.2W8.2W9.2A34.S.S3.S.S9.2M3.2M$5W6.2W8.A2.A8.2A24.S5.S$2W.2W16.A.A3.
2A3.A.A5.2A14.S5.S$5.3W14.A3.A.A3.A6.A.A13.S.S3.S.S7.S$2W2.W3.W17.2A
3.2A6.2A9.S5.S5.S7.S.S$2.W2.W5.W3.2W.2W16.A13.3S6.S11.2S23.2Q$9.4W2.W
3.W15.A.A6.O8.S4.S.S34.Q2.Q$.4W3.W.3W3.3W17.A6.O.O6.2S5.S36.Q.Q$.W5.W
4.2W29.2O11.S32.2M6.Q$4.3W.2W21.U5.U9.2S6.S.S23.2M6.2M$2W3.W2.W2.W4.
3W3.2W6.U.U3.U.U8.2S7.S24.M$W.3W3.2W.2W2.W3.W.W.W5.U.U5.U44.3M$2W2.2W
.2W2.2W2.2W.2W.2W5.U.U53.M7.2M$W2.3W5.W17.U16.S45.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2W3.W2.
2W3.W12.U5.U5.O6.S.S56.Q.Q.Q$W5.4W15.U.U3.U.U4.2O6.S15.S16.2S8.2M14.Q
$2W.W5.W.W14.U5.U5.2O3.3S15.S2.S15.S8.2M17.Q$W3.W.2W3.W17.U9.O3.S17.S
2.S15.S.S23.Q$.W7.2W5.M11.U.U32.S17.2S21.2Q2.Q$.3W.2W8.M2.M4.2U4.U3.
2U15.S3.4S.S10.S32.3Q.2Q$3.W4.W3.2M.M2.M4.U.U7.U15.S.S5.2S6.Q4.3S30.
2Q3.Q$.2W2.W3.W3.M5.M4.U.U7.3U6.2S4.S2.S3.S2.S4.Q.Q6.S30.2Q.2Q$W.W2.
3W6.5M6.2U9.U5.S7.2S4.S.S2.S2.2Q6.2S30.Q$2W.3W.W7.M.M.M13.U.U9.S9.S
47.3Q2.Q$2W.2W2.W.W5.5M13.2U8.2S10.2S3.2S41.2Q.Q.Q$16.M7.M6.2U24.S.2S
.S$17.4M8.U2.U15.3S2.2S.S10.M$18.M3.2M5.2U19.S2.3S2.S.SM.S2.M.M.2M$
24.M6.4U13.2S7.S3.2S2.M.3M.2M24.M.M.M.M2.M$25.M2.M.U.3U17.S2.4S.S5.6M
27.M.2M2.2M$26.M25.S.2S14.M31.2M2.M.M$26.M20.2S2.2S3.S.S.S36.M2.M.M5.
M$46.S7.S43.3M2.3M2.M$27.M12.S2.S2.S.3S5.S.S41.3M4.Q$27.M.2M.M11.S4.
2S.5S.3S30.M7.4M4.2Q$26.2M.M.M.2M5.3S4.S.S2.S3.S4.S25.M.5M3.5M3.Q.2Q$
27.M.3M10.S2.S.S.S5.S5.S5.3M19.2M.2M4.M.M.Q5.Q$28.2M.M3.M5.3S.S4.3S.
2S3.S.S3.M3.2M19.2M2.2M6.2Q$29.3M.2M5.2S5.S3.3S.S.S2.S.2S4.M16.2M2.2M
.M8.M.Q.3Q$31.M8.2S2.2S2.S2.S.S3.S4.2S.M.M3.2M.2M9.M3.2M.6M2.M.7Q$32.
2M8.2S.S7.S3.S.S3.2S7.M2.M10.M2.M3.5Q2.2M.2Q.Q$33.M6.2S.S.2S.S.S.S.S.
2S2.S.3S7.3M$40.3S4.8S5.S.2S!
I've tested this in lifelib and it produces 167636967106670543325747590685038173130660193369858201199553918977850686981410099863014102987085295947427497150360764485201433334847272924232033079522133330175288572500545978285231781670374654328055441606820208171847878219961757121037461687156104438162947604925795329300195146170440947751523056266582183746682076176936328641292606351642464356625189798060648335911904952613985505316094781107419098022041816872540558971970856331783805866759078788202448057787275938600327113753506770739820556800502028963840134311453281170289827702350025147731468065658318564579811666704921648584980727427270858381072386726126708113038732813088722114483437546471109318971322217034781404927845237710747051441670769292763664209560206946864391909502579098969079941291115218425530715849276472989432398283064548854178460889750244757764320908795814286654598848780808832588600441379389124393634302115186260680077882827751002979783 loaves.

Here's the shutdown sequence, viewable in LifeViewer:

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x = 95, y = 101, rule = LifeSuper
35.2Q$35.Q.Q$5.2Q29.Q$4.Q2.Q33.Q$5.2Q33.Q.Q$40.Q2.Q25.2M15.Q$41.2Q26.
2M8.2Q5.Q$25.2M51.Q2.Q4.Q$26.M52.2Q8.2Q$26.M.M5.2M30.2M21.Q.Q$27.2M3.
M3.M29.2M22.Q$31.M5.M8.2M$21.3O6.2M.M3.M8.2M21.2M8.M$12.2Q6.3O8.M5.M
31.2M6.3M4.2M$12.2Q18.M3.M39.M7.2M$34.2M40.2M2$5.2M74.2M$5.M2.M4.O36.
Q30.2M$13.2O19.M.M12.Q.Q$9.M3.2O20.2M13.2Q32.2M$14.O20.M8.2Q20.M2.M
14.2M7.M$7.2M34.Q2.Q21.4M19.3M$6.M37.2Q19.M24.M$66.2M2.2M18.2M2$3.2M
3.2M14.2O5.2O33.2M$3.2M3.2M14.2O5.O33.2M$4.5M20.O.O34.2M2.M14.M$5.M.M
21.2O27.2M25.2M$19.2O26.M10.2M24.M.M$5.3M11.2O26.M.M$37.2M8.2M12.2M$
37.M23.2M$26.M8.M.M41.M$24.M.M8.2M38.2M3.M$3.2M11.2M4.2M34.2M15.6M$4.
M11.2M4.2M34.2M14.M3.3M$.3M18.2M49.2M2.2M.2M$.M10.2M10.M.M47.2M.2M3.M
$11.2M13.M53.2M$13.M78.Q$7.2O59.M22.Q.Q$9.O47.M.M6.3M22.Q2.Q$6.O50.2M
6.M7.2M17.2Q$7.2O32.2M15.M6.2M6.2M$41.M.M45.Q$37.O3.M27.Q18.Q.Q$36.O.
O30.Q19.2Q$O36.O24.3M4.Q$3O53.M5.3M9.Q$3.O52.M.M2.M3.M8.Q$2.2O52.2M
16.Q$60.2M3.2M2$21.2A$21.2A2$80.2Q$28.O50.Q2.Q$27.O.O50.Q.Q$27.2O44.
2M6.Q$45.M19.2M6.2M$44.2M19.M$44.M.M19.3M$6.M61.M7.2M$5.M2.M67.2M11.Q
$2.2M.M2.M13.O65.Q.Q$3.M5.M2.M9.2O49.2M14.2Q$4.5M4.M8.2O49.2M$5.M.M.M
13.O$5.5M83.Q$6.M7.M77.Q.Q$7.4M16.M.M19.Q43.2Q$8.M3.2M13.2M19.Q.Q$14.
M13.M19.2Q21.2M$15.M2.M52.M.M$16.M4.M49.M$16.M5.M$51.M$17.M27.2M3.M.M
.2M$17.M.2M.M22.2M2.M.3M.2M$16.2M.M.M.2M25.6M34.2M$17.M.3M32.M28.3M4.
M$18.2M.M3.M57.M2.M4.3M$19.3M.2M52.M5.M9.M$21.M55.M6.M2.M$22.2M60.M.M
$23.M48.2M9.M.M5.Q$72.2M9.M6.Q.Q$91.2Q$69.2M5.2M$69.2M5.2M6.2M$61.M.M
20.2M$62.2M15.2Q$62.M16.2Q2$66.2M$66.M.M$68.M$68.2M!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by EvinZL » July 20th, 2023, 9:29 am

Delaying the firing of that fuse some more...

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x = 109, y = 91, rule = LifeSuper
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40.3S4.8S5.S.2S!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 20th, 2023, 12:00 pm

EvinZL wrote:
July 20th, 2023, 9:29 am
Delaying the firing of that fuse some more...
Awesome -- the number of loaves is now given by:

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int('267881' + '450881' * 145 + '5' * 39 + '33', 11)
or, in full:

2149407302871422263451057190855841600706473279623047441984298205019311554125808266449042932610157951324251356771689081915565687843589114984680621427013256549080754863923715487608778023194571328629925619227557032941954887196151833244375779509712000198303655064547457899430303332139528761513871967330613765220306431603988004518380721806997721917438876553103553535517799426960878978430164255802586197977482771217011110560379117381690553790224068509994318247657012863797533783806356166687551063594929394503701264781767075255282717073165752208089488803423252343375358982998439366220526769427008858732771924406221941600030234059046022970011839716924103828982421718979034914402030354444505084404317990841089045864766448234143985391244755919563712434597724607150927200270263473186448097452637106559819654870671320168191120887302969736667775866490347247787671684704318553272850432363917881810171340615324784007749697546293102674245230326925545334309298681440997593

Here's the lifelib script for running one of these diehards until the fuse has burned, and counting the number of loaves:

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import lifelib
import itertools

lt = lifelib.load_rules('b3s23').lifetree(n_layers=1, memory=4000)

x = lt.pattern('''
x = 109, y = 91, rule = B3/S23
18b8o20b12o4b5o2bo15b2o15bo$19bo4bo22bo3b2o8b2obob4obo13b2o8b2o5bo$41b
2o4bo4b2o9b4o27bo2bo4bo$42bo4b2o46b2o8b2o$42bobo8bo3bo24b2o21bobo$43b
2o3bob2obo2bo25b2o22bo$48b2o6b3o3b2o$37b3o8b2o12b2o21b2o8bo$28b2o6b3o
46b2o6b3o4b2o$28b2o13bo9b3o36bo7b2o$42bobo8bo38b2o$43bo8b3o$21b2o17bo
5bo4b2o7b2o35b2o7b3o$21b2o6bo9bobo3bobo4b2o6b2o4bo30b2o6bobo$29b2o7bob
o5bo2bobo13bobo37bo$29b2o6bobo3bo22b2o35bobob2o$30bo5bobo3bobo6bo2bo5b
2o20bo2bo19b2obo$35bobo5bo6bo2bobo3bo2bo21b4o9bo6bobobo$34bobo13bo3bob
o3b2o19bo13b2o9b2o$33bobo19bobo24b2o2b2o8b2o8bo$32bobo21bo45b2o$19b2o
3b2o5bobo6b2o5b2o4bo28b2o17bobo$19b2o3b2o4bobo7b2o5bo4bobo3b2o21b2o18b
o$20b5o6bo13bobo5bo4bobo21b2o4b2o10b2o$21bobo21b2o12b2o13b2o14bo$35b2o
37b2o11bo$21b3o4b2o5b2o51b2o$28b2o23b2o22b2o14bo8b3o$53bo23b2o13bo2bo$
42bo8bobo13b2o23bo2bo$40bobo8b2o14bobo13b2o9bo$19b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o28b2o
4b2o6bobo$20bo4bobo4b2o4b2o24bo9b2o6b2o5b2o$17b3o6b2o10b2o23bobo13bo9b
2o$17bo22bobo11b2o8bo6bo6bobo23bobo$29bo12bo10bobo14bobo4bobo12b2o11b
4o$28bobo22bo16bobo3bobo13b2o9bob2o$23b2o4bobo20b2o17bo5bo6bo18bo4bo$
25bo4bobo12b2o11b2o8bo5bo7b3o18b3ob2o$22bo8bo12bobo10bobo7bobo3bobo5bo
7b2o13b3obo$23b2o19b2o10bo2bobo6bo5bo6b2o6b2o12bo3b2o$41bo14b2o2b2o3bo
5bo33bobo$35b2o3bobo10bo10bobo3bobo12bo17bo2bobo$35b2o4bo10bobo10bo5bo
13bo18bobo$16bo36bo8bo5bo9b3o4bo$16b3o12b2o28bobo3bobo8b3o9bo$19bo11b
2o29bo5bo8bo3bo8bo$18b2o39bo5bo24bo$b2o8b2o9b2o27b2o5bobo3bobo9b2o3b2o
$5o6b2o8bo2bo8b2o16b2o6bo5bo$2ob2o16bobo3b2o3bobo5b2o14bo5bo$5b3o14bo
3bobo3bo6bobo13bobo3bobo7bo$2o2bo3bo17b2o3b2o6b2o9bo5bo5bo7bobo$2bo2bo
5bo3b2ob2o16bo13b3o6bo11b2o23b2o$9b4o2bo3bo15bobo6bo8bo4bobo34bo2bo$b
4o3bob3o3b3o17bo6bobo6b2o5bo36bobo$bo5bo4b2o29b2o11bo32b2o6bo$4b3ob2o
21bo5bo9b2o6bobo23b2o6b2o$2o3bo2bo2bo4b3o3b2o6bobo3bobo8b2o7bo3bo15bo
4bo$ob3o3b2ob2o2bo3bobobo5bobo5bo22bobo12bobo4b3o$2o2b2ob2o2b2o2b2ob2o
b2o5bobo24bo4b2o14bo7bo7b2o$o2b3o5bo17bo16bo9bo35b2o9bo2bobo$2o3bo2b2o
3bo12bo5bo5bo6bobo6b3o47bobobo$o5b4o15bobo3bobo4b2o6bo15bo4b2o10b2o8b
2o14bo$2obo5bobo14bo5bo5b2o3b3o15bo2bo2b2o11bo8b2o17bo$o3bob2o3bo17bo
9bo3bo17bo2bo15bobo23bo$bo7b2o5bo11bobo32bo17b2o21b2o2bo$b3ob2o8bo2bo
4b2o4bo3b2o15bo3b4obo10bo32b3ob2o$3bo4bo3b2obo2bo4bobo7bo15bobo5b2o6bo
4b3o30b2o3bo$b2o2bo3bo3bo5bo4bobo7b3o6b2o4bo2bo3bo2bo4bobo6bo30b2ob2o$
obo2b3o6b5o6b2o9bo5bo7b2o4bobo2bo2b2o6b2o30bo$2ob3obo7bobobo13bobo9bo
9bo47b3o2bo$2ob2o2bobo5b5o13b2o4bo3b2o10b2o3b2o41b2obobo$16bo7bo6b2o5b
obo16bob2obo$17b4o8bo2bo6bo8b3o2b2obo10bo$18bo3b2o5b2o12bo6bo2b3o2bob
2obo2bobob2o$24bo6b4o7bobo3b2o7bo3b2o2bob3ob2o24bobobobo2bo$25bo2bobob
3o6bobo8bo2b4obo5b6o27bob2o2b2o$26bo13bobo9bob2o14bo31b2o2bobo$26bo14b
o5b2o2b2o3bobobo36bo2bobo5bo$46bo7bo43b3o2b3o2bo$27bo12bo2bo2bob3o5bob
o41b3o4bo$27bob2obo11bo4b2ob5ob3o30bo7b4o4b2o$26b2obobob2o5b3o4bobo2bo
3bo4bo25bob5o3b5o3bob2o$27bob3o10bo2bobobo5bo5bo5b3o19b2ob2o4bobobo5bo
$28b2obo3bo5b3obo4b3ob2o3bobo3bo3b2o19b2o2b2o6b2o$29b3ob2o5b2o5bo3b3ob
obo2bob2o4bo16b2o2b2obo8bobob3o$31bo8b2o2b2o2bo2bobo3bo4b2obobo3b2ob2o
9bo3b2ob6o2bob7o$32b2o8b2obo7bo3bobo3b2o7bo2bo10bo2bo3b5o2b2ob2obo$33b
o6b2obob2obobobobob2o2bob3o7b3o$40b3o4b8o5bob2o!
''')

s = 1 << 32

x = x[s]

for i in itertools.count():

    p = x[-100:0, :].population
    s = s << 32
    x = x[s]
    print('%d : %s' % (i, p))
    if (p < 200):
        break

x.save('sawtooth.mc')

# remove everything that's not a loaf:
x -= x.replace('2bo$bobo$o2bo$b2o!', '', halo='7o$'*7)
x.save('onlyloaves.mc')

print(x.population // 7)
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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