p43 snark loop synthesis

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p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » June 9th, 2019, 12:34 pm

Rambling aside, let's just casually drop this off:

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x = 2921, y = 123, rule = B3/S23
1784bo$1783bo$1783b3o$1788b2o$96bo1691bobo646bo$94b2o1682bobo7bo
647bo$95b2o1682b2o655b3o$1779bo661b2o$2441bobo$2431bobo7bo$2432b2o
$2432bo5$2477bobo$144bo2332b2o$144bobo2331bo$144b2o1679bobo$140b2o
1683b2o$139bo2bo62bo1620bo320bo489bo$140b2o62bo1705bo235bo491bo$
88bo115b3o1704bo234b3o487b3o73bo34bo$86bobo110bo1709b3o800bobo33bo
70bo$87b2o4bo103bobo1950b3o490bobo66b2o32b3o70bobo$91b2o105b2o
1705b3o235bobo4bo493b2o173b2o$92b2o110b2o1701bo4bobo229b2o5bo492bo
108bobo161bobo$6bo35bo160b2o1701bo5b2o33bobo157bobo34bo211bo397b2o
96bo5bo58b2o$5bo34bobo107b2o40b2o11bo36b2o69b2o69b2o93b2o80b2o83b
2o68b2o68b2o68b2o81b2o94b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b2o93b2o85bo
36b2o121bo7b2o24b2o74b2o83b2o16b2o101b2o94b2o27b2o90b2o118b2o101b
2o83bo23b2o73b2o4b2o20b2o35bo$5b3o33b2o107bobo39bobo47bobo68bobo
68bobo92bobo79bobo82bobo67bobo67bobo67bobo80bobo93bobo93bobo117bob
o104bobo107bo7bobo92bobo92bobo85b2o34bobo128bobo24bo74bobo82bo17bo
bo100bobo81bo11bobo27b2o89bobo93bobo21bobo100bobo38bo67bobo71b2o4b
2o11bo9bobo$obo149bo41bo49bo4b2o64bo4b2o64bo4b2o88bo4b2o75bo4b2o
78bo4b2o63bo4b2o63bo4b2o63bo4b2o76bo4b2o89bo4b2o89bo4b2o113bo4b2o
100bo4b2o102bo8bo4b2o88bo4b2o88bo4b2o78b2o37bo4b2o124bo4b2o95bo4b
2o96bo4b2o96bo4b2o76b2o11bo4b2o114bo4b2o88b2o23bo4b2o96bo4b2o30b2o
70bo4b2o30bo51bobo11bo4b2o$b2o51b2o43bo7b2o39b4ob2o3b2o30b4ob2o3b
2o38b4ob2o2bo2bo58b4ob2o2bo2bo58b4ob2o2bo2bo82b4ob2o2bo2bo69b4ob2o
2bo2bo72b4ob2o2bo2bo57b4ob2o2bo2bo57b4ob2o2bo2bo57b4ob2o2bo2bo70b
4ob2o2bo2bo83b4ob2o2bo2bo83b4ob2o2bo2bo107b4ob2o2bo2bo94b4ob2o2bo
2bo98b3o4b4ob2o2bo2bo82b4ob2o2bo2bo82b4ob2o2bo2bo111b4ob2o2bo2bo
118b4ob2o2bo2bo89b4ob2o2bo2bo90b4ob2o2bo2bo90b4ob2o2bo2bo73b2o8b4o
b2o2bo2bo108b4ob2o2bo2bo86bo20b4ob2o2bo2bo25bo64b4ob2o2bo2bo29b2o
65b4ob2o2bo2bo26b2o53b2o7b4ob2o2bo2bo$bo36b3o12bobo43bo6bobo39bo2b
obobobobo30bo2bobobobobo38bo2bobobobob2o58bo2bobobobob2o58bo2bobob
obob2o82bo2bobobobob2o69bo2bobobobob2o72bo2bobobobob2o57bo2bobobob
ob2o57bo2bobobobob2o57bo2bobobobob2o70bo2bobobobob2o83bo2bobobobob
2o83bo2bobobobob2o107bo2bobobobob2o94bo2bobobobob2o105bo2bobobobob
2o82bo2bobobobob2o82bo2bobobobob2o111bo2bobobobob2o118bo2bobobobob
2o89bo2bobobobob2o90bo2bobobobob2o90bo2bobobobob2o83bo2bobobobob2o
70bo37bo2bobobobob2o94bo12bo2bobobobob2o23b2o65bo2bobobobob2o96bo
2bobobobob2o27b2o61bo2bobobobob2o12bo12bobo$40bo12bo45bo6bo44bobob
obo35bobobobo43bobobobo64bobobobo64bobobobo88bobobobo75bobobobo78b
obobobo63bobobobo63bobobobo63bobobobo76bobobobo89bobobobo89bobobob
o113bobobobo100bobobobo111bobobobo88bobobobo88bobobobo117bobobobo
124bobobobo95bobobobo96bobobobo96bobobobo89bobobobo74b2o38bobobobo
95bobo15bobobobo27b2o67bobobobo102bobobobo96bobobobo16bo11b2o$39bo
12b2o32b2o17b2o45b2obobo36b2obobo44b2obobo65b2obobo65b2obobo89b2ob
obo76b2obobo79b2obobo64b2obobo64b2obobo64b2obobo77b2obobo90b2obobo
90b2obobo114b2obobo101b2obobo112b2obobo89b2obobo89b2obobo118b2obob
o125b2obobo96b2obobo97b2obobo97b2obobo60bobo27b2obobo73b2o40b2obob
o96b2o16b2obobo97b2obobo103b2obobo97b2obobo14b3o12bo$86b2o68bo41bo
8b3o38bo70bo70bo94bo81bo84bo69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo106bo61bo
42b2o11bo94bo94bo123bo130bo101bo10bo91bo89bo12bo62b2o31bo120bo119b
o102bo108bo102bo$202b2o3bo1219b2o39b2o569bo124bo55bobo75bo254b2o$
201bobo4bo1217b2o35bo6bo422bo145b3o120b2o57b2o331b2o$38b2o163bo
1260b2o428b2o267b2o388bo44bo$38bobo1418b2o2b2o428b2o66bo74b2o57bo
128b2o371bo92bo175bobo$38bo1419bobo498bobo74b2o57bobo126b2o277bo
93b3o89bo107bo69b2o38bo$1460bo11b2o486b2o133b2o404b2o68b2o101b2o
13b3o91b2o11bo62b2o6bo18b2o10bo6b2o$414b2o10bo1044b2o1029b2o67b2o
20bobo78b2o10bo96b2o11b3o59bobo25b2o9bo8b2o$414b2o9bo1047bo199bo
177bo111bo129bo233bo31bobo232b2o59bo29bobo105bo66bo36b3o16bo$425b
3o96bo1148bobo173b2o79b2o31bobo66b2o57bobo41b2o101b2o75bobo10b2o4b
2o23b2o233bo58bobo30b2o104bobo99bo20bo$523bobo1046bobo98b2o175b2o
78b2o31b2o67b2o58b2o41b2o101b2o76b2o9b2o5b2o10bo13bo145b2o146b2o
109bo27b2o98bobo19b3o$523bobo1047b2o95bo288b2o75b2o58b2o41b2o83b2o
16b2o14bo57bo3b2o16b2o4b2o160bobo254bobo128b2o$338b3o5bo77bo99bo
1048bo94bobo287b2o45bo30b2o59b2o40b2o83b2o16b2o13bo62b2o16b2o5b2o
103b2o54bo63b2o85b2o14b2o89b2o16b2o85bo15b2o$340bo3bobo76b2o1244b
2o123b2o58b2o69b2o33bo42bobo21b2o67bo33b2o101b2o22b3o69b2o119bo
119bo85bobo14bo108bo84bobo15bo$339bo5b2o3bo72bobo100b3o1265b2o58bo
bo68b2o77b2o21b2o101b2o101b2o94b2o120b3o117b3o83bo16b3o90b2o14b3o
82b2o16b3o$349bo95bo80bo925bobo115bo283bo392b2o5b2o87b2o108bo49b3o
67bo102bo89bobo16bo102bo$349b3o92b2o81bo925b2o115bobo434b2o5b2o
101b2o101b2o25b2o5b2o60b2o25b2o160bo261bo103b2o$444bobo1006bo116b
2o435b2o5b2o101b2o101b2o94b2o186bo365bobo$512b2o80b2o13bo69b2o68b
2o68b2o68b2o81b2o35bo58b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b2o59b2o10bo21b
2o88b2o10bo21b2o26b3o66b2o10bo21b2o66b2o10bo21b2o67b2o10bo21b2o67b
2o10bo21b2o60b2o10bo21b2o85b2o10bo21b2o84b2o10bo21b2o67b2o10bo21b
2o73b2o10bo21b2o58bo8b2o10bo21b2o$513bo81bo13bobo68bo69bo69bo69bo
82bo33bobo59bo95bo119bo106bo117bo94bo58bobo9bobo21bo87bobo9bobo21b
o28bo65bobo9bobo21bo65bobo9bobo21bo66bobo9bobo21bo66bobo9bobo21bo
59bobo9bobo21bo84bobo9bobo21bo83bobo9bobo21bo66bobo9bobo21bo72bobo
9bobo21bo66bobo9bobo21bo$416b3o94bob2o78bob2o10b2o69bob2o66bob2o
66bob2o66bob2o79bob2o31b2o59bob2o92bob2o116bob2o103bob2o114bob2o
33b2o19b2o35bob2o33b2o21bo11b2o21bob2o62b2o21bo11b2o21bob2o24bo44b
2o11b2o8bo11b2o21bob2o40b2o11b2o8bo11b2o21bob2o41b2o11b2o8bo11b2o
21bob2o41b2o11b2o8bo11b2o21bob2o34b2o11b2o8bo11b2o21bob2o59b2o21bo
11b2o21bob2o58b2o21bo11b2o21bob2o41b2o21bo11b2o21bob2o47b2o21bo11b
2o21bob2o41b2o21bo11b2o21bob2o$511b3o2bo76b3o2bo79b3o2bo64b3o2bo
64b3o2bo64b3o2bo77b3o2bo90b3o2bo34b2o54b3o2bo58b2o54b3o2bo45b2o54b
3o2bo56b2o54b3o2bo34bo20b2o32b3o2bo34bo11bo42b3o2bo63bo54b3o2bo70b
o11b2o41b3o2bo41bo11b2o41b3o2bo42bo11b2o41b3o2bo42bo11b2o41b3o2bo
35bo11b2o41b3o2bo60bo54b3o2bo59bo54b3o2bo42bo54b3o2bo48bo54b3o2bo
42bo54b3o2bo$510bo3b2o76bo3b2o79bo3b2o64bo3b2o64bo3b2o64bo3b2o77bo
3b2o90bo3b2o35bo54bo3b2o59bo54bo3b2o46bo54bo3b2o57bo54bo3b2o33bo
13bo7bo33bo3b2o33bo14bo27bo12bo3b2o62bo55bo3b2o69bo55bo3b2o40bo55b
o3b2o41bo55bo3b2o41bo55bo3b2o34bo44bobo8bo3b2o59bo55bo3b2o58bo55bo
3b2o41bo55bo3b2o47bo55bo3b2o41bo55bo3b2o$510b4o68bo9b4o81b4o66b4o
66b4o66b4o79b4o36b2o54b4o38b3o51b4o62b3o51b4o49b3o51b4o60b3o51b4o
35b5o10bo40b4o35b5o8b3o26bo13b4o64b5o51b4o71b5o51b4o42b5o51b4o43b
5o51b4o43b5o51b4o36b5o40b2o9b4o61b5o14b2o35b4o60b5o14b2o35b4o43b5o
14b2o35b4o49b5o14b2o35b4o43b5o14b2o35b4o$513bo66b2o13bo84bo69bo69b
o69bo82bo37b2o56bo40bo54bo64bo54bo52bo53bo63bo53bo40bo7b3o43bo40bo
36b3o14bo69bo35b2o16bo76bo35b2o16bo47bo35b2o16bo48bo35b2o16bo48bo
35b2o16bo41bo35b2o3bo12bo66bo13bo22b2o15bo65bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo48bo
5b2o6bo22b2o15bo54bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo48bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo$277bo232b
3o68b2o2b2o5b3o82b3o67b3o67b3o67b3o80b3o37bo55b3o93b3o117b3o50b3o
51b3o61b3o51b3o38b3o51b3o38b3o51b3o67b3o13b2o21b2o13b3o74b3o13b2o
21b2o13b3o45b3o13b2o21b2o13b3o46b3o13b2o21b2o13b3o46b3o13b2o21b2o
13b3o39b3o13b2o21b2o13b3o64b3o12bobo21bobo12b3o63b3o6b2o4bobo21bob
o4b2o6b3o46b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o6b3o52b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o6b3o
46b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o6b3o$275b2o67bo70bo93bo75bobo3bo84bo69bo
69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo52bo53bo63bo53bo40bo43b3o7bo40bo14b3o36bo
69bo16b2o35bo76bo16b2o35bo47bo16b2o35bo48bo16b2o35bo48bo16b2o35bo
41bo12bo3b2o35bo66bo15b2o22bo13bo65bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo48bo15b2o22bo
6b2o5bo54bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo48bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo$276b2o66b3o68b3o
92b3o72bo6b3o82b5o65b5o65b5o65b5o78b5o91b5o91b5o115b5o47b4o51b5o
58b4o51b5o35b4o40bo10b5o35b4o13bo26b3o8b5o64b4o51b5o71b4o51b5o42b
4o51b5o43b4o51b5o43b4o51b5o36b4o9b2o40b5o61b4o35b2o14b5o60b4o35b2o
14b5o43b4o35b2o14b5o49b4o35b2o14b5o43b4o35b2o14b5o$347bo70bo94bo
81bo85bo69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo45b2o3bo55bo56b2o3bo55bo33b2o
3bo33bo7bo13bo33b2o3bo12bo27bo14bo62b2o3bo55bo69b2o3bo55bo40b2o3bo
55bo41b2o3bo55bo41b2o3bo55bo34b2o3bo8bobo44bo59b2o3bo55bo58b2o3bo
55bo41b2o3bo55bo47b2o3bo55bo41b2o3bo55bo$346b2o69b2o93b2o80b2o83bo
69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo46bo2b3o54bo57bo2b3o54bo34bo2b3o32b2o
20bo34bo2b3o42bo11bo63bo2b3o54bo70bo2b3o41b2o11bo41bo2b3o41b2o11bo
42bo2b3o41b2o11bo42bo2b3o41b2o11bo35bo2b3o41b2o11bo60bo2b3o54bo59b
o2b3o54bo42bo2b3o54bo48bo2b3o54bo42bo2b3o54bo$278b2o399b2o68b2o68b
2o68b2o81b2o94b2o94b2o61b3o54b2o45b2obo56b2o56b2obo56b2o33b2obo35b
2o19b2o33b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o37bo24b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o69b2obo21b2o
11bo8b2o11b2o40b2obo21b2o11bo8b2o11b2o41b2obo21b2o11bo8b2o11b2o41b
2obo21b2o11bo8b2o11b2o34b2obo21b2o11bo8b2o11b2o59b2obo21b2o11bo21b
2o58b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o41b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o47b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o
41b2obo21b2o11bo21b2o$278bobo1053bo117bo94bo94bo21bobo9bobo58bo28b
o21bobo9bobo94bo21bobo9bobo65bo21bobo9bobo66bo21bobo9bobo66bo21bob
o9bobo59bo21bobo9bobo84bo21bobo9bobo83bo21bobo9bobo66bo21bobo9bobo
72bo21bobo9bobo66bo21bobo9bobo$278bo1055b2o116b2o93b2o93b2o21bo10b
2o59b3o26b2o21bo10b2o95b2o21bo10b2o66b2o21bo10b2o67b2o21bo10b2o67b
2o21bo10b2o60b2o21bo10b2o85b2o21bo10b2o84b2o21bo10b2o67b2o21bo10b
2o73b2o21bo10b2o67b2o21bo10b2o8bo$1199bobo255b2o122b2o458b2o5b2o
94b2o101b2o94b2o53bo501bobo$1103b3o94b2o118bo135bobo121bobo458b2o
5b2o94b2o67b2o5b2o25b2o67b2o25b2o52bo401bo100b2o$1105bo94bo120bo
136bo123bo153bo476b2o5b2o94b2o79b3o49bo119bo102bo108bo16bobo83bo$
1104bo3b2o5bo104bobo96b3o412bobo58b2o129b2o100b2o21b2o78b2o101b2o
94b2o117b3o117b3o100b3o16bo89b3o14b2o84b3o16b2o$1108bobo3bo106b2o
449b2o61b2o58b2o95bo33b2o100b2o21bobo77b2o33bo42b3o22b2o94b2o120bo
119bo102bo14bobo91bo102bo15bobo$1108bo5b3o104bo101bo105bo149bo92bo
bo218b2o124b2o30bo70b2o40b2o45bo13b2o16b2o69b2o5b2o16b2o55bo54b2o
118b2o101b2o14b2o91b2o16b2o83b2o15bo$591b2o352bo376bobo104b2o147b
2o92bo219b2o125b2o101b2o41b2o43bo14b2o16b2o70b2o4b2o16b2o3bo49bobo
404bobo73b2o$592b2o17b3o330b2o376bobo103bobo147bobo87b2o69b2o147b
2o31b2o100b2o101b2o41b2o58b2o69bo13bo10b2o5b2o9b2o50b2o296b2o77b2o
27bo53b3o19bobo$591bo19bo314bo17bobo271b3o102bo343bobo70b2o145bobo
31b2o100b2o101b2o41bobo57b2o69b2o23b2o4b2o10bobo202bo112b2o30bobo
76bobo82bo20bo$612bo311bobo293bo9b2o437bo69bo149bo279bo129bobo31bo
213b2o112bobo29bo79bo82bo16b3o36bo$582b3o340b2o292bo10b2o1167b2o
146bobo20b2o90bo10b2o93b3o11b2o81b2o8bo9b2o25bobo$584bo357b3o946b
2o273b2o232b2o168b2o85b3o13b2o95bo11b2o82b2o6bo10b2o18bo6b2o$583bo
150bo209bo946bobo125b2o144bobo75b2o154bo143b3o113bo109bo95bo38b2o$
732bobo208bo947bo66b2o59b2o146bo75b2o300bo112bo245bobo$733b2o1222b
2o139b2o444bo44bo$1959bo55b3o81b2o145b2o339b2o$2017bo80bo147bobo
113bo225b2o$808b2o50bo67bobo12bo95bo95bo119bo106bo117bo94bo94bo
123bo130bo90bo10bo102bo102bo12bo82bo31b2o87bo119bo102bo108bo102bo$
719b2o12bo55b2o17b2o49bobob2o64b2o11bobob2o90bobob2o90bobob2o114bo
bob2o101bobob2o112bobob2o89bobob2o89bobob2o118bobob2o125bobob2o96b
obob2o97bobob2o97bobob2o90bobob2o27bobo85bobob2o40b2o72bobob2o16b
2o79bobob2o103bobob2o67bo12b3o14bobob2o$719bo12bo56bo6bo62bobobobo
63bo12bobobobo89bobobobo89bobobobo113bobobobo100bobobobo111bobobob
o88bobobobo88bobobobo117bobobobo124bobobobo95bobobobo96bobobobo96b
obobobo89bobobobo114bobobobo38b2o44b2o27bobobobo15bobo78bobobobo
102bobobobo66b2o11bo16bobobobo$650bo66bobo12b3o52bobo6bo60bobobobo
bo2bo71bobobobobo2bo83b2obobobobo2bo83b2obobobobo2bo107b2obobobobo
2bo94b2obobobobo2bo105b2obobobobo2bo82b2obobobobo2bo82b2obobobobo
2bo111b2obobobobo2bo118b2obobobobo2bo89b2obobobobo2bo90b2obobobobo
2bo90b2obobobobo2bo83b2obobobobo2bo108b2obobobobo2bo37bo44b2o23b2o
bobobobo2bo12bo77b2obobobobo2bo67b2o27b2obobobobo2bo62bobo12bo12b
2obobobobo2bo$649b2o66b2o68b2o7bo60b2o3b2ob4o71b2o3b2ob4o83bo2bo2b
2ob4o83bo2bo2b2ob4o107bo2bo2b2ob4o94bo2bo2b2ob4o105bo2bo2b2ob4o82b
o2bo2b2ob4o82bo2bo2b2ob4o111bo2bo2b2ob4o118bo2bo2b2ob4o89bo2bo2b2o
b4o90bo2bo2b2ob4o90bo2bo2b2ob4o83bo2bo2b2ob4o8b2o98bo2bo2b2ob4o81b
o25bo2bo2b2ob4o20bo38b2o29bo2bo2b2ob4o68b2o26bo2bo2b2ob4o90bo2bo2b
2ob4o7b2o$649bobo212bo82bo89b2o4bo89b2o4bo113b2o4bo100b2o4bo111b2o
4bo88b2o4bo88b2o4bo117b2o4bo37b2o85b2o4bo95b2o4bo96b2o4bo96b2o4bo
89b2o4bo11b2o101b2o4bo113b2o4bo23b2o39b2o30b2o4bo71bo30b2o4bo96b2o
4bo11bobo$644b3o83b2o132bobo80bobo93bobo93bobo117bobo104bobo115bob
o92bobo92bobo121bobo34b2o67bo24bobo99bobo100bobo17bo82bobo64b2o27b
obo11bo106bobo117bobo21bobo37bo38bobo106bobo100bobo9bo11b2o4b2o$
646bo83bobo132b2o81b2o94b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b2o93b2o122b2o
36bo66b2o24b2o7bo92b2o101b2o16b2o83b2o65b2o27b2o119b2o118b2o101b2o
107b2o23bo41bo35b2o20b2o4b2o$645bo84bo1172bobo33b2o5bo171bo34bobo
148bo506b2o41b2o58bo5bo$802b2o1134bobo4bo165bo5b2o585bo106bobo39bo
bo$803b2o1140b3o164bo4bobo583b2o41b2o$802bo4b2o1301b3o522b2o66bobo
39bobo70b3o$807bobo1131b3o690bobo110bo70bo$807bo1133bo172b3o519bo
73b3o106bo$875b2o1065bo173bo593bo$874bo2bo886bo350bo595bo$875b2o
887b2o$871b2o890bobo$870bobo76b3o1472bo$872bo76bo1474b2o$928b2o20b
o1472bobo$927bobo$929bo3$2470bo$2469b2o$2461bo7bobo$2459bobo$1811b
o648b2o$799b2o1009b2o652b3o$800b2o1000bo7bobo653bo$799bo1000bobo
662bo$1801b2o$1805b3o$1807bo$1806bo!
Yes, this is a full synthesis of the p43 snark loop. At times this synthesis lurches forward like a slow salvo construction, and indeed I tried using slmake a few times to prise off the central still lifes, but in the end manual placement of gliders and a whole lot of three-glidering and rummaging through Niemiec's files won out. The final cost is 226 gliders; if you have any improvements, please let me know here.

A similar strategy should be available to synthesise any larger snark loop. With these and a few other oscillators I've already added to Shinjuku, for every period with a known oscillator there is a synthesis of at least one oscillator of that period, except period 39. The first person to synthesise a non-trivial period-39 oscillator will win a prize from me.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by muzik » June 9th, 2019, 1:25 pm

If I remember correctly, the next record-holding snark loop would be p49, right?

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » June 9th, 2019, 1:31 pm

muzik wrote:If I remember correctly, the next record-holding snark loop would be p49, right?
The p49 loop using p7 bumpers is smaller. The next snark-based record is at p53.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Kazyan » June 9th, 2019, 3:51 pm

Freywa wrote:A similar strategy should be available to synthesise any larger snark loop. With these and a few other oscillators I've already added to Shinjuku, for every period with a known oscillator there is a synthesis of at least one oscillator of that period, except period 39. The first person to synthesise a non-trivial period-39 oscillator will win a prize from me.
Short keys on Beluchenko's p13:

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x = 43, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
41bo$40bo$30bo9b3o$29bo$29b3o8$10bo$8bobo$9b2o2$11bo$11bobo$11b2o2$7bo
$8bo22b2o$6b3o22b2o$2bo$obo$b2o28b3o$33bo4b3o$9bobo13b2o2bo3bobobo$9b
2o14b2o2bo6bob3o$10bo5b2o11b3o4bo$16b2o$31bo$32b2o$31bo$11b2o17bobo$
11b2o17bobo$24b2o4bobo$24b2o$11b2o$11b2o4$16b2o$10bo5b2o$9b2o$9bobo2$b
2o$obo$2bo$6b3o$8bo$7bo2$11b2o$11bobo$11bo2$9b2o$8bobo$10bo8$29b3o$29b
o$30bo9b3o$40bo$41bo!
Shinjuku already knows how to make Beluchenko's p13, and the block placements are trivial.
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » June 10th, 2019, 3:03 am

Speaking of other periods, it is trivial to take out four gliders to get a p86 loop. The boats in the core aren't needed for this, so the eaters can be made directly and the cost drops to 142 gliders:

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x = 2166, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
96bo1585bo$94b2o1585bo$95b2o1584b3o$1686b2o$1686bobo$1676bobo7bo$
1677b2o$1677bo5$1722bobo$144bo1577b2o$144bobo1576bo$144b2o$140b2o$
139bo2bo62bo1676bo$140b2o62bo1678bo$88bo115b3o1674b3o73bo34bo$86bo
bo110bo1757bobo33bo70bo$87b2o4bo103bobo1688bobo66b2o32b3o70bobo$
91b2o105b2o1689b2o173b2o$92b2o110b2o1683bo108bobo161bobo$6bo35bo
160b2o1794b2o96bo5bo58b2o$5bo34bobo107b2o40b2o11bo36b2o69b2o69b2o
93b2o80b2o83b2o68b2o68b2o68b2o81b2o94b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b
2o118b2o118b2o101b2o83bo23b2o73b2o4b2o20b2o35bo$5b3o33b2o107bobo
39bobo47bobo68bobo68bobo92bobo79bobo82bobo67bobo67bobo67bobo80bobo
93bobo93bobo117bobo104bobo107bo7bobo92bobo117bobo93bobo21bobo100bo
bo38bo67bobo71b2o4b2o11bo9bobo$obo149bo41bo49bo4b2o64bo4b2o64bo4b
2o88bo4b2o75bo4b2o78bo4b2o63bo4b2o63bo4b2o63bo4b2o76bo4b2o89bo4b2o
89bo4b2o113bo4b2o100bo4b2o102bo8bo4b2o88bo4b2o113bo4b2o88b2o23bo4b
2o96bo4b2o30b2o70bo4b2o30bo51bobo11bo4b2o$b2o51b2o43bo7b2o39b4ob2o
3b2o30b4ob2o3b2o38b4ob2o2bo2bo58b4ob2o2bo2bo58b4ob2o2bo2bo82b4ob2o
2bo2bo69b4ob2o2bo2bo72b4ob2o2bo2bo57b4ob2o2bo2bo57b4ob2o2bo2bo57b
4ob2o2bo2bo70b4ob2o2bo2bo83b4ob2o2bo2bo83b4ob2o2bo2bo107b4ob2o2bo
2bo94b4ob2o2bo2bo98b3o4b4ob2o2bo2bo82b4ob2o2bo2bo107b4ob2o2bo2bo
86bo20b4ob2o2bo2bo25bo64b4ob2o2bo2bo29b2o65b4ob2o2bo2bo26b2o53b2o
7b4ob2o2bo2bo$bo36b3o12bobo43bo6bobo39bo2bobobobobo30bo2bobobobobo
38bo2bobobobob2o58bo2bobobobob2o58bo2bobobobob2o82bo2bobobobob2o
69bo2bobobobob2o72bo2bobobobob2o57bo2bobobobob2o57bo2bobobobob2o
57bo2bobobobob2o70bo2bobobobob2o83bo2bobobobob2o83bo2bobobobob2o
107bo2bobobobob2o94bo2bobobobob2o105bo2bobobobob2o82bo2bobobobob2o
69bo37bo2bobobobob2o94bo12bo2bobobobob2o23b2o65bo2bobobobob2o96bo
2bobobobob2o27b2o61bo2bobobobob2o12bo12bobo$40bo12bo45bo6bo44bobob
obo35bobobobo43bobobobo64bobobobo64bobobobo88bobobobo75bobobobo78b
obobobo63bobobobo63bobobobo63bobobobo76bobobobo89bobobobo89bobobob
o113bobobobo100bobobobo111bobobobo88bobobobo73b2o38bobobobo95bobo
15bobobobo27b2o67bobobobo102bobobobo96bobobobo16bo11b2o$39bo12b2o
32b2o17b2o45b2obobo36b2obobo44b2obobo65b2obobo65b2obobo89b2obobo
76b2obobo79b2obobo64b2obobo64b2obobo64b2obobo77b2obobo90b2obobo90b
2obobo114b2obobo101b2obobo112b2obobo89b2obobo72b2o40b2obobo96b2o
16b2obobo97b2obobo103b2obobo97b2obobo14b3o12bo$86b2o68bo41bo8b3o
38bo70bo70bo94bo81bo84bo69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo106bo61bo42b
2o11bo94bo119bo119bo102bo108bo102bo$202b2o3bo1219b2o39b2o328b2o$
201bobo4bo1217b2o35bo6bo328b2o$38b2o163bo1260b2o332bo44bo$38bobo
1418b2o2b2o377bo92bo$38bo1419bobo287bo93b3o89bo107bo$1460bo11b2o
272b2o68b2o101b2o13b3o91b2o11bo62b2o25b2o10bo$414b2o10bo1044b2o
274b2o67b2o20bobo78b2o10bo96b2o11b3o59bobo25b2o9bo$414b2o9bo1047bo
365b2o59bo29bobo105bo66bo36b3o16bo$425b3o96bo1048bo265bo58bobo30b
2o104bobo99bo20bo$523bobo1045bobo177b2o146b2o109bo27b2o98bobo19b3o
$523bobo1046b2o177bobo254bobo128b2o$338b3o5bo77bo99bo1170b2o54bo
63b2o85b2o14b2o89b2o16b2o85bo15b2o$340bo3bobo76b2o1270bo119bo85bob
o14bo108bo84bobo15bo$339bo5b2o3bo72bobo100b3o1045b2o120b3o117b3o
83bo16b3o90b2o14b3o82b2o16b3o$349bo95bo80bo925bobo120b2o121bo49b3o
67bo102bo89bobo16bo102bo$349b3o92b2o81bo925b2o119bo175bo261bo103b
2o$444bobo1006bo295bo365bobo$512b2o80b2o13bo69b2o68b2o68b2o68b2o
81b2o35bo58b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b2o118b2o118b2o101b2o107b2o
58bo42b2o$513bo81bo13bobo68bo69bo69bo69bo82bo33bobo59bo95bo119bo
106bo117bo94bo119bo119bo102bo108bo102bo$416b3o94bob2o78bob2o10b2o
69bob2o66bob2o66bob2o66bob2o79bob2o31b2o59bob2o92bob2o116bob2o103b
ob2o114bob2o33b2o42bo13bob2o58b2o56bob2o58b2o56bob2o41b2o56bob2o
47b2o56bob2o41b2o56bob2o$511b3o2bo76b3o2bo79b3o2bo64b3o2bo64b3o2bo
64b3o2bo77b3o2bo90b3o2bo34b2o54b3o2bo58b2o54b3o2bo45b2o54b3o2bo56b
2o54b3o2bo34bo41bo12b3o2bo59bo54b3o2bo59bo54b3o2bo42bo54b3o2bo48bo
54b3o2bo42bo54b3o2bo$510bo3b2o76bo3b2o79bo3b2o64bo3b2o64bo3b2o64bo
3b2o77bo3b2o90bo3b2o35bo54bo3b2o59bo54bo3b2o46bo54bo3b2o57bo54bo3b
2o33bo43b3o9bo3b2o58bo55bo3b2o58bo55bo3b2o41bo55bo3b2o47bo55bo3b2o
41bo55bo3b2o$510b4o68bo9b4o81b4o66b4o66b4o66b4o79b4o36b2o54b4o38b
3o51b4o62b3o51b4o49b3o51b4o60b3o51b4o35b5o34bobo14b4o60b5o14b2o35b
4o60b5o14b2o35b4o43b5o14b2o35b4o49b5o14b2o35b4o43b5o14b2o35b4o$
513bo66b2o13bo84bo69bo69bo69bo82bo37b2o56bo40bo54bo64bo54bo52bo53b
o63bo53bo40bo34b2o17bo65bo13bo22b2o15bo65bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo48bo5b
2o6bo22b2o15bo54bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo48bo5b2o6bo22b2o15bo$277bo232b3o
68b2o2b2o5b3o82b3o67b3o67b3o67b3o80b3o37bo55b3o93b3o117b3o50b3o51b
3o61b3o51b3o38b3o15bo19bo15b3o63b3o12bobo21bobo12b3o63b3o6b2o4bobo
21bobo4b2o6b3o46b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o6b3o52b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o
6b3o46b3o6b2o4bobo21bobo4b2o6b3o$275b2o67bo70bo93bo75bobo3bo84bo
69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo52bo53bo63bo53bo40bo17b2o34bo65bo15b
2o22bo13bo65bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo48bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo54bo15b2o22bo6b
2o5bo48bo15b2o22bo6b2o5bo$276b2o66b3o68b3o92b3o72bo6b3o82b5o65b5o
65b5o65b5o78b5o91b5o91b5o115b5o47b4o51b5o58b4o51b5o35b4o14bobo34b
5o60b4o35b2o14b5o60b4o35b2o14b5o43b4o35b2o14b5o49b4o35b2o14b5o43b
4o35b2o14b5o$347bo70bo94bo81bo85bo69bo69bo69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo45b
2o3bo55bo56b2o3bo55bo33b2o3bo9b3o43bo58b2o3bo55bo58b2o3bo55bo41b2o
3bo55bo47b2o3bo55bo41b2o3bo55bo$346b2o69b2o93b2o80b2o83bo69bo69bo
69bo82bo95bo95bo119bo46bo2b3o54bo57bo2b3o54bo34bo2b3o12bo41bo59bo
2b3o54bo59bo2b3o54bo42bo2b3o54bo48bo2b3o54bo42bo2b3o54bo$278b2o
399b2o68b2o68b2o68b2o81b2o94b2o94b2o61b3o54b2o45b2obo56b2o56b2obo
56b2o33b2obo13bo42b2o58b2obo56b2o58b2obo56b2o41b2obo56b2o47b2obo
56b2o41b2obo56b2o$278bobo1053bo117bo94bo119bo119bo102bo108bo102bo$
278bo1055b2o116b2o93b2o118b2o118b2o101b2o107b2o101b2o42bo$1199bobo
255b2o184bo501bobo$1103b3o94b2o118bo135bobo119bo63bo401bo100b2o$
1105bo94bo120bo136bo117b2o64b3o49bo119bo102bo108bo16bobo83bo$1104b
o3b2o5bo104bobo96b3o255b2o115b3o117b3o100b3o16bo89b3o14b2o84b3o16b
2o$1108bobo3bo106b2o474bo119bo102bo14bobo91bo102bo15bobo$1108bo5b
3o104bo101bo105bo211bo54b2o118b2o101b2o14b2o91b2o16b2o83b2o15bo$
591b2o352bo376bobo104b2o148b2o58bobo404bobo73b2o$592b2o17b3o330b2o
376bobo103bobo148bobo58b2o296b2o77b2o27bo53b3o19bobo$591bo19bo314b
o17bobo271b3o102bo255bo213bo112b2o30bobo76bobo82bo20bo$612bo311bob
o293bo9b2o560b2o112bobo29bo79bo82bo16b3o36bo$582b3o340b2o292bo10b
2o412b2o146bobo20b2o90bo10b2o93b3o11b2o91bo9b2o25bobo$584bo357b3o
700b2o168b2o85b3o13b2o95bo11b2o90bo10b2o25b2o$583bo150bo209bo699bo
143b3o113bo109bo$732bobo208bo846bo112bo$733b2o1054bo44bo$1832b2o$
1833b2o$808b2o50bo67bobo12bo95bo95bo119bo106bo117bo94bo119bo119bo
102bo108bo102bo$719b2o12bo55b2o17b2o49bobob2o64b2o11bobob2o90bobob
2o90bobob2o114bobob2o101bobob2o112bobob2o89bobob2o114bobob2o40b2o
72bobob2o16b2o79bobob2o103bobob2o67bo12b3o14bobob2o$719bo12bo56bo
6bo62bobobobo63bo12bobobobo89bobobobo89bobobobo113bobobobo100bobob
obo111bobobobo88bobobobo113bobobobo38b2o44b2o27bobobobo15bobo78bob
obobo102bobobobo66b2o11bo16bobobobo$650bo66bobo12b3o52bobo6bo60bob
obobobo2bo71bobobobobo2bo83b2obobobobo2bo83b2obobobobo2bo107b2obob
obobo2bo94b2obobobobo2bo105b2obobobobo2bo82b2obobobobo2bo107b2obob
obobo2bo37bo44b2o23b2obobobobo2bo12bo77b2obobobobo2bo67b2o27b2obob
obobo2bo62bobo12bo12b2obobobobo2bo$649b2o66b2o68b2o7bo60b2o3b2ob4o
71b2o3b2ob4o83bo2bo2b2ob4o83bo2bo2b2ob4o107bo2bo2b2ob4o94bo2bo2b2o
b4o105bo2bo2b2ob4o82bo2bo2b2ob4o107bo2bo2b2ob4o81bo25bo2bo2b2ob4o
20bo38b2o29bo2bo2b2ob4o68b2o26bo2bo2b2ob4o90bo2bo2b2ob4o7b2o$649bo
bo212bo82bo89b2o4bo89b2o4bo113b2o4bo100b2o4bo111b2o4bo88b2o4bo113b
2o4bo113b2o4bo23b2o39b2o30b2o4bo71bo30b2o4bo96b2o4bo11bobo$644b3o
83b2o132bobo80bobo93bobo93bobo117bobo104bobo115bobo92bobo117bobo
117bobo21bobo37bo38bobo106bobo100bobo9bo11b2o4b2o$646bo83bobo132b
2o81b2o94b2o94b2o118b2o105b2o116b2o93b2o118b2o118b2o101b2o107b2o
23bo41bo35b2o20b2o4b2o$645bo84bo1325b2o41b2o58bo5bo$802b2o1145bo
106bobo39bobo$803b2o1143b2o41b2o$802bo4b2o1071b2o66bobo39bobo70b3o
$807bobo1069bobo110bo70bo$807bo1073bo73b3o106bo$875b2o1078bo$874bo
2bo1078bo$875b2o$871b2o$870bobo76b3o717bo$872bo76bo719b2o$928b2o
20bo717bobo$927bobo$929bo3$1715bo$1714b2o$1706bo7bobo$1704bobo$
1705b2o$799b2o908b3o$800b2o909bo$799bo910bo!
Edit: Simkin's p60 in 36 gliders:

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x = 205, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
183bobo$183b2o$184bo$168bo$166bobo20bo$167b2o18b2o$188b2o2$170bo$168bo
bo$169b2o$24bo$22b3o58bo$21bo59b3o$22bo51bobo3bo83bo24bo$23bo51b2o4bo
80bobo22b3o$22b2o51bo6bo80b2o21bo$71bo9b2o91bo8bo3bo$72b2o98b2o8bobo3b
o$71b2o100b2o8bo3b2o$76b2o$75b2o$77bo2$178bo$179bo2bo18bo$171bo5b3o2b
2o15b2o$7bo163b2o8bobo16b2o$8bo161bobo$6b3o$194bobo$165b2o16bobo8b2o$
77bo88b2o15b2o2b3o5bo$16bo61b2o85bo18bo2bo$17bo2bobo54b2o109bo$15b3o2b
2o60b2o$21bo59b2o$72b2o9bo$72bo6bo$2bo70bo4b2o98b2o3bo8b2o$obo71bo3bob
o97bo3bobo8b2o$b2o68b3o105bo3bo8bo$71bo108bo21b2o$177b3o22bobo$177bo
24bo2$15bo$14b2o$14bobo179b2o$196bobo$196bo2$177b2o$178b2o18b2o$177bo
20bobo$198bo$182bo$182b2o$181bobo!
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » June 11th, 2019, 3:25 am

A p67 Herschel loop (by Buckingham) in 110 gliders:

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x = 1274, y = 205, rule = B3/S23
1091bo$1092bo$1090b3o3$1214bo$1212b2o$1091bobo119b2o$1092b2o$1092b
o$1213bo$1213bobo$1213b2o5$1107bo$1108bo$1106b3o13$1095bo$1093bobo
$1094b2o27bo$172bo951b2o$171bo951b2o$171b3o14$1141bo$1139bobo$
1140b2o10$993bobo$994b2o$389bobo136bo281bobo181bo$390b2o135bo282b
2o$390bo136b3o281bo$894bo15bo88bo22bo133bobo6bo20bo$523bo371b2o13b
3o80bobo3bobo8bo11b3o132b2o5bobo7bo11b3o$521b2o106b2o101b2o76bo21b
2o60b2o17bo23b2o55b2o3b2o7b3o14bo23b2o106bo7bo6b3o14bo23b2o$522b2o
105bo102bo78bo20bo79b2o23bo56bo12bo16b2o23bo121bo16b2o23bo$627bobo
100bobo76b3o18bobo102bobo39bo29b2o38bobo121b2o38bobo$506b2o115b2o
2b2o66bo30b2o2b2o94b2o2b2o60b2o37b2o2b2o41bo64b2o2b2o109b2o47b2o2b
2o46bobo$506b2o115b2o68bobo30b2o98b2o63bobo37b2o43b3o64b2o114b2o
46b2o43bo6b2o$522b3o169b2o115bobo79bo264bo93bobo5bo$522bo175bo112b
2o439b2o$122bo400bo174bobo111bo329b2o$120b2o576b2o97b2o103b2o73b2o
35b2o125bo2bo15b2o16b2o$121b2o674b2o103b2o74b2o34b2o125bo2bo16b2o
15b2o74bo$519b2o162bo293bo164b2o16bo93bobo$518b2o164bo569b2o$121b
2o190bo206bo100bo5bo5bobo46b3o$121bobo188bo309b2o2b2o5b2o52bobo$
121bo190b3o306b2o3bobo5bo52b2o96b2o103b2o110b2o162b2o$219b2o25bo
43b2o15bobo57b2o105b2o115b2o95bo5b2o36b2o51bobo6b2o36b2o56bobo6b2o
36b2o63bobo6b2o36b2o115bobo6b2o36b2o$219bo25bo44bo17b2o57bo19b2o
85bo19b2o95bo19b2o81bo19b2o16bobo52bo6bo19b2o16bobo57bo6bo19b2o16b
obo64bo6bo19b2o16bobo116bo6bo19b2o16bobo$220bo24b3o43bo16bo59bo17b
obo12bo73bo17bobo96bo17bobo82bo17bobo18bo52b2o6bo17bobo18bo57b2o6b
o17bobo18bo64b2o6bo17bobo18bo116b2o6bo17bobo18bo$219b2o19bobo47b2o
75b2o17bo12b2o73b2o17bo97b2o17bo83b2o17bo20b2o58b2o17bo20b2o63b2o
17bo20b2o70b2o17bo20b2o122b2o17bo20b2o$bo239b2o71b2o69b2o4b2o7b2o
90b2o4b2o109b2o4b2o95b2o4b2o92b2o4b2o97b2o4b2o104b2o4b2o156b2o4b2o
$2bo238bo71bobo74bobo104bobo114bobo100bobo97bobo102bobo109bobo104b
3o54bobo$3o310bo76bo106bo116bo102bo99bo104bo111bo108bo54bo36bobo$
5bobo133bo170b2o75b2o105b2o7b2o106b2o7b2o92b2o7b2o89b2o7b2o94b2o7b
2o101b2o7b2o98bo54b2o7b2o27b2o$5b2o98b2o33b2o66b2o69b2o75b2o41b3o
61b2o40b2o73b2o40b2o59b2o40b2o56b2o40b2o61b2o40b2o68b2o40b2o120b2o
40b2o28bo$6bo98bobo32bobo65bobo68bobo74bobo40bo63bobo114bobo100bob
o97bobo102bobo109bobo161bobo$107bo102bo70bo76bo41bo64bo116bo102bo
99bo92bo11bo111bo140b3o20bo$107b2o101b2o69b2o75b2o105b2o115b2o101b
2o98b2o79bo12b2o9b2o110b2o141bo20b2o69bobo$867b2o5b2o2b2o264bo92b
2o$866b2o5bobo362bo$875bo$1052b2o162b2o$984b2o66bo95b2o66bo$983bob
o64bobo94bobo64bobo$983bo66b2o95bo66b2o$982b2o162b2o$936bo$936bobo
5b2o179bo$932b2o2b2o5b2o180b2o92bo$137b2o101b2o69b2o75b2o105b2o
115b2o101b2o98b2o103b2o9b2o12bo86b2o90bobo69b2o20bo$138bo102bo70bo
34bo41bo106bo116bo102bo99bo104bo11bo99bo163bo20b3o$35bo67bobo32bob
o100bobo68bobo33bo40bobo104bobo114bobo100bobo97bobo102bobo109bobo
161bobo$35b2o67b2o33b2o101b2o69b2o31b3o41b2o63b2o40b2o73b2o40b2o
59b2o40b2o56b2o40b2o61b2o40b2o68b2o40b2o91bo28b2o40b2o$34bobo67bo
175b2o75b2o96b2o7b2o106b2o7b2o92b2o7b2o89b2o7b2o94b2o7b2o101b2o7b
2o124b2o27b2o7b2o54bo$39b3o238bo76bo106bo116bo102bo99bo104bo111bo
124bobo36bo54bo$39bo170bo67bobo74bobo104bobo114bobo100bobo97bobo
102bobo109bobo161bobo54b3o$40bo168b2o67b2o66b2o7b2o4b2o99b2o4b2o
109b2o4b2o95b2o4b2o92b2o4b2o97b2o4b2o104b2o4b2o156b2o4b2o$209bobo
19b2o69b2o43b2o12bo17b2o87bo17b2o97bo17b2o61b2o20bo17b2o58b2o20bo
17b2o63b2o20bo17b2o70b2o20bo17b2o122b2o20bo17b2o$204b3o24bo53bo16b
o43bo12bobo17bo86bobo17bo96bobo17bo63bo18bobo17bo60bo18bobo17bo6b
2o57bo18bobo17bo6b2o64bo18bobo17bo6b2o116bo18bobo17bo6b2o$206bo25b
o51b2o17bo55b2o19bo85b2o19bo95b2o19bo62bobo16b2o19bo59bobo16b2o19b
o6bo57bobo16b2o19bo6bo64bobo16b2o19bo6bo116bobo16b2o19bo6bo$205bo
25b2o51bobo15b2o75b2o105b2o115b2o63b2o36b2o5bo54b2o36b2o6bobo56b2o
36b2o6bobo63b2o36b2o6bobo115b2o36b2o6bobo$124bo154b3o279bo5bobo3b
2o138b2o100b2o103b2o110b2o162b2o$122bobo156bo279b2o5b2o2b2o138bobo
$123b2o155bo160bo118bobo5bo5bo142b3o$442b2o273bo390b2o$441b2o275bo
339bo48bobo93bo16b2o$123b2o678b2o103b2o110b2o34b2o51bo74b2o15b2o
16bo2bo$124b2o576b2o99b2o103b2o110b2o35b2o125b2o16b2o15bo2bo$123bo
314bo262bobo85bo430b2o$439bo263bo85b2o319b2o$437b3o266b2o80bobo
127bo184bo5bobo93bo$454b2o115b2o101b2o30bobo65b2o103b2o37bobo70b2o
64b3o43b2o6bo43b2o46b2o$454b2o111b2o2b2o97b2o2b2o30bo63b2o2b2o99b
2o2b2o37b2o67b2o2b2o64bo44bobo46b2o2b2o47b2o$566bobo100bobo97bobo
18b3o81bobo109bobo38b2o29bo91bobo38b2o$438b2o126bo102bo99bo20bo83b
o23b2o86bo23b2o16bo12bo108bo23b2o16bo$439b2o124b2o101b2o98b2o21bo
81b2o23bo17b2o67b2o23bo14b3o7b2o3b2o107b2o23bo14b3o6bo7bo$438bo
460b3o13b2o94b3o11bo8bobo3bobo132b3o11bo7bobo5b2o$901bo15bo95bo22b
o140bo20bo6bobo$357bo74b3o355bo$356b2o76bo355b2o$356bobo74bo355bob
o249bo$1040b2o$1040bobo10$1222b2o$1222bobo$1222bo14$72b3o$74bo
1164b2o$73bo1164b2o$1240bo27b2o$1268bobo$1268bo13$1255b3o$1255bo$
1256bo5$1149b2o$1148bobo$1150bo$1271bo$1270b2o$1149b2o119bobo$
1150b2o$1149bo3$1271b3o$1271bo$1272bo!
As if that wasn't enough, a p1000 Herschel loop – i.e. the Millennium Loop – in 124 gliders:

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x = 1690, y = 219, rule = B3/S23
677bo$677bobo$677b2o32$1046bo$1046bobo$1046b2o3$1045bo5bo$1046b2o
2bo178bo$1045b2o3b3o176bobo$1073bo155b2o$378bobo566bo123b2o92bo20b
o23bo71bo20bo91bo20bo89bo20bo89bo20bo$378b2o568b2o107bo14b2o90bobo
7bo11b3o21bobo11bo56bobo7bo11b3o88bobo7bo11b3o86bobo7bo11b3o86bobo
7bo11b3o$379bo567b2o106b3o107bo6b3o14bo20b2o10b2o58bo6b3o14bo23b2o
63bo6b3o14bo23b2o61bo6b3o14bo23b2o61bo6b3o14bo23b2o$479bo119bo119b
o105bo105bo105bo16bo99bo16bo16b2o17bo15b2o46bo16bo16b2o23bo53bo16b
o16b2o23bo51bo16bo16b2o23bo51bo16bo16b2o23bo$479b3o117b3o117b3o
103b3o103b3o103b3o14b2o18b2o78b3o14b2o32bobo63b3o14b2o38bobo53b3o
14b2o38bobo51b3o14b2o38bobo51b3o14b2o38bobo$378bo103bo119bo119bo
105bo105bo10b2o6bo86bo33bobo80bo48b2o66bo49b2o2b2o57bo49b2o2b2o55b
o49b2o2b2o55bo49b2o2b2o$379bo101b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o9bobo4b
obo85b2o33bo81b2o115b2o49b2o60b2o49b2o58b2o49b2o58b2o49b2o$377b3o
566bo5b2o269b3o$956bo266bo$626bo329bobo265bo$379bobo214b2o26b2o90b
2o104b2o104b2o26b2o76b2o25b2o88b2o25b2o88b2o25b2o84b2o25b2o82b2o
25b2o82b2o25b2o$379b2o216bo27b2o90bo105bo105bo105bo25b2o89bo25b2o
89bo25b2o85bo25b2o83bo25b2o83bo25b2o$277bo102bo216bobo117bobo103bo
bo103bobo103bobo114bobo66bo47bobo110bobo108bobo108bobo$278bo319b2o
118b2o38bo65b2o104b2o104b2o56bo58b2o65b2o48b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$
276b3o201bo144b2o129bobo110bo225bo124bobo$281bobo189b2o3bobo144bob
o129b2o3bobo103bo224b3o$281b2o102b2o87b2o3b2o2b2o6b2o118b2o12bo
105b2o29b2o73b2o29b3o72b2o104b2o47bobo65b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b
2o$282bo102bobo85bo10b2o5bobo117bobo117bobo6b2o21bo73bobo6b2o15bob
o77bobo6b2o95bobo6b2o38b2o66bobo6b2o36b2o68bobo6b2o36b2o64bobo6b2o
36b2o62bobo6b2o36b2o62bobo6b2o36b2o$387bo95bo9bo119bo119bo6bo98bo
6bo17b2o79bo6bo19b2o77bo6bo19b2o19bo68bo6bo19b2o16bobo69bo6bo19b2o
16bobo65bo6bo19b2o16bobo63bo6bo19b2o16bobo63bo6bo19b2o16bobo$387b
2o104b2o118b2o118b2o6bo97b2o6bo16bo80b2o6bo17bobo77b2o6bo17bobo88b
2o6bo17bobo18bo69b2o6bo17bobo18bo65b2o6bo17bobo18bo63b2o6bo17bobo
18bo63b2o6bo17bobo18bo$740b2o104b2o104b2o17bo86b2o17bo97b2o17bo20b
2o75b2o17bo20b2o71b2o17bo20b2o69b2o17bo20b2o69b2o17bo20b2o$275bo
594b2o98b2o4b2o98b2o4b2o109b2o4b2o109b2o4b2o105b2o4b2o103b2o4b2o
103b2o4b2o$276bo488b3o100bo2bo102bo2bo102bo2bo113bo2bo113bo2bo109b
o2bo107bo2bo107bo2bo$274b3o488bo102b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b
2o109b2o109b2o$279bobo363bo120bo669b2o109b2o109b2o27bo$279b2o102b
2o104b2o118b2o33b2o83b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o39b2o70b2o
40b2o67b2o40b2o67b2o40b2o27bobo$280bo102bobo103bobo117bobo32bobo
82bobo103bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo114bobo37bobo70bobo108bobo108bob
o60bo7b2o$385bo105bo119bo119bo37b2o66bo105bo105bo116bo116bo39bo72b
o110bo110bo59bo$147bobo235b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o36bobo65b2o104b2o
104b2o115b2o115b2o41b2o68b2o109b2o109b2o58b3o$147b2o620bo556bobo$
140bo7bo1177bo$138bobo$139b2o1537b2o$261b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b
2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o75b2o$260bobo
103bobo103bobo117bobo117bobo103bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo114bobo
110bobo108bobo108bobo77bo$141bo118bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo
105bo116bo116bo112bo110bo110bo$142bo116b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o
104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$140b3o115bo105bo
105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo112bo110bo110bo63bo$258b3o
103b3o103b3o117b3o117b3o103b3o103b3o103b3o114b3o114b3o110b3o108b3o
108b3o59b2o$261bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo112b
o110bo110bo59b2o$143bo116b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o
104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$143bobo$143b2o$1659b2o$732bo
752bo173bobo3bo$733bo752bo172bo4b2o13bo$731b3o750b3o110b2o65bobo
11b2o$736bobo858b2o79bobo$129bo606b2o102b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b
2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$129b2o606bo102bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo114bob
o110bobo20b2o57b3o26bobo20b2o86bobo20b2o$95bobo30bobo711bo105bo
105bo116bo116bo112bo21bo59bo28bo21bo88bo21bo$95b2o745b2o104b2o104b
2o115b2o115b2o19bo91b2o20bobo56bo29b2o20bobo86b2o20bobo24bo$96bo
1212b2o113b2o109b2o109b2o23bo$1308bobo360b3o$1313b3o$1313bo$1314bo
359b3o$1674bo$81b2o1592bo$80bobo$19bobo60bo128b2o116b2o104b2o104b
2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$19b
2o190bo117bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo112bo110b
o110bo$12bo7bo191b3o115b3o103b3o103b3o117b3o117b3o103b3o103b3o103b
3o114b3o114b3o110b3o108b3o108b3o$10bobo70b3o128bo117bo105bo105bo
119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo112bo110bo110bo$11b2o70bo128b2o
116b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o
109b2o109b2o$84bo59b2o66bo49b2o66bo37b2o66bo37b2o66bo51b2o66bo51b
2o66bo37b2o66bo37b2o66bo37b2o66bo48b2o66bo48b2o66bo44b2o66bo42b2o
66bo42b2o66bo$143bobo64bobo48bobo64bobo36bobo64bobo36bobo64bobo50b
obo64bobo50bobo64bobo36bobo64bobo36bobo64bobo36bobo64bobo47bobo64b
obo47bobo64bobo43bobo64bobo41bobo64bobo41bobo64bobo$13bo129bo66b2o
49bo66b2o37bo66b2o37bo66b2o51bo66b2o51bo66b2o37bo66b2o37bo66b2o37b
o66b2o48bo66b2o48bo66b2o44bo66b2o42bo66b2o42bo66b2o$14bo70b2o55b2o
116b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o111b2o
109b2o109b2o$12b3o70bobo53bo117bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo
105bo116bo116bo112bo110bo110bo$77bo7bo55b3o115b3o103b3o103b3o117b
3o117b3o103b3o103b3o103b3o114b3o114b3o110b3o108b3o108b3o$77b2o65bo
117bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo112bo110bo110bo$
15bo60bobo64b2o116b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o
115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$15bobo$15b2o1356bo$1371bobo$1285bo
86b2o$1286bo$1284b3o200b2o109b2o$1289bobo195b2o109b2o$bo1287b2o
109b2o109b2o109b2o$b2o861b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o95bo19b2o88bobo20b2o
86bobo20b2o29bo56bobo20b2o$obo222bobo637bo105bo105bo116bo116bo90bo
21bo88bo21bo28bo59bo21bo$225b2o531bo106bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo
114bobo55b2o31b2o20bobo86b2o20bobo26b3o57b2o20bobo$226bo531b2o106b
2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o54bobo54b2o109b2o109b2o$757bobo610bo300b
2o$762b3o796b3o107b2o$762bo798bo$763bo798bo2$211b2o$210bobo$212bo
117b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o115b2o49bo
61b2o109b2o109b2o$330bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo
116bo40bo10b2o59bo110bo110bo$331b3o103b3o103b3o117b3o117b3o103b3o
103b3o103b3o114b3o114b3o38b2o3b2o2b2o61b3o108b3o108b3o$213b3o117bo
105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo105bo105bo116bo116bo37b2o3bobo67bo110bo
110bo$213bo117b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o
115b2o45bo65b2o109b2o109b2o$214bo116bo105bo105bo119bo119bo105bo
105bo105bo116bo116bo112bo42b2o66bo42b2o66bo$329bobo103bobo103bobo
117bobo117bobo103bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo114bobo110bobo41bobo64bo
bo41bobo64bobo$329b2o104b2o104b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o
115b2o115b2o111b2o42bo66b2o42bo66b2o$215b2o1272b2o109b2o$215bobo$
207bo7bo1057bo$207b2o517bo544bobo$206bobo208b2o104b2o118b2o79bobo
36b2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o72b2o41b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$418bo
105bo119bo80b2o37bo105bo105bo105bo116bo76bo39bo112bo110bo110bo$
311bo106bobo103bobo82bobo32bobo117bobo103bobo103bobo103bobo114bobo
74bobo37bobo110bobo108bobo108bobo$311b2o106b2o104b2o83b2o33b2o118b
2o104b2o104b2o104b2o115b2o74b2o39b2o69b2o40b2o67b2o40b2o67b2o40b2o
$310bobo297bo118bo658b2o109b2o109b2o$315b3o412bo107b2o104b2o104b2o
115b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$315bo412b3o105bo2bo102bo2bo102bo2bo
113bo2bo113bo2bo109bo2bo107bo2bo107bo2bo$316bo519b2o104b2o4b2o98b
2o4b2o109b2o4b2o109b2o4b2o105b2o4b2o103b2o4b2o103b2o4b2o$754b2o
104b2o86bo17b2o86bo17b2o75b2o20bo17b2o75b2o20bo17b2o71b2o20bo17b2o
69b2o20bo17b2o69b2o20bo17b2o$415b2o104b2o118b2o111bo6b2o80bo16bo6b
2o77bobo17bo6b2o77bobo17bo6b2o69bo18bobo17bo6b2o69bo18bobo17bo6b2o
65bo18bobo17bo6b2o63bo18bobo17bo6b2o63bo18bobo17bo6b2o$416bo105bo
9bo109bo112bo6bo79b2o17bo6bo77b2o19bo6bo57bo19b2o19bo6bo69bobo16b
2o19bo6bo69bobo16b2o19bo6bo65bobo16b2o19bo6bo63bobo16b2o19bo6bo63b
obo16b2o19bo6bo$309bo106bobo103bobo5b2o10bo99bobo87bo21b2o6bobo77b
obo15b2o6bobo95b2o6bobo55b2o38b2o6bobo68b2o36b2o6bobo68b2o36b2o6bo
bo64b2o36b2o6bobo62b2o36b2o6bobo62b2o36b2o6bobo$309b2o106b2o104b2o
6b2o2b2o3b2o88bo12b2o87b2o29b2o72b3o29b2o104b2o54bobo47b2o115b2o
115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$308bobo224bobo3b2o85bobo100bobo3b2o100bo
196b3o$313b3o219bo93b2o106bobo98bo197bo106bobo$313bo342b2o79bo38b
2o104b2o104b2o47bo56b2o48b2o65b2o115b2o111b2o109b2o109b2o$314bo
108bo232bobo117bobo103bobo103bobo103bobo47bo66bobo114bobo110bobo
108bobo108bobo$423b2o204b2o27bo119bo105bo105bo78b2o25bo89b2o25bo
89b2o25bo85b2o25bo83b2o25bo83b2o25bo$422bobo205b2o26b2o118b2o104b
2o76b2o26b2o77b2o25b2o88b2o25b2o88b2o25b2o84b2o25b2o82b2o25b2o82b
2o25b2o$629bo331bobo177bo$963bo178bo$424b3o539b2o5bo166b3o$424bo
108b2o118b2o118b2o104b2o85bobo4bobo9b2o70bo33b2o115b2o64b2o49b2o
60b2o49b2o58b2o49b2o58b2o49b2o$425bo107bo119bo119bo105bo86bo6b2o
10bo69bobo33bo66b2o48bo61b2o2b2o49bo57b2o2b2o49bo55b2o2b2o49bo55b
2o2b2o49bo$534b3o117b3o117b3o103b3o103b3o67b2o18b2o14b3o63bobo32b
2o14b3o57bobo38b2o14b3o53bobo38b2o14b3o51bobo38b2o14b3o51bobo38b2o
14b3o$536bo119bo119bo105bo105bo88bo16bo46b2o15bo17b2o16bo16bo57bo
23b2o16bo16bo53bo23b2o16bo16bo51bo23b2o16bo16bo51bo23b2o16bo16bo$
424bo546b2o101b3o65b2o10b2o20bo14b3o6bo67b2o23bo14b3o6bo63b2o23bo
14b3o6bo61b2o23bo14b3o6bo61b2o23bo14b3o6bo$424b2o544b2o86b2o14bo
66bo11bobo21b3o11bo7bobo92b3o11bo7bobo88b3o11bo7bobo86b3o11bo7bobo
86b3o11bo7bobo$423bobo546bo86b2o94bo23bo20bo95bo20bo91bo20bo89bo
20bo89bo20bo$1058bo76b2o$1079b3o3b2o47bobo$1081bo2b2o50bo$1080bo5b
o3$1084b2o$1083bobo$1085bo32$577b2o$576bobo$578bo!
Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 7th, 2019, 12:59 am

You forgot to remove the eaters and make it a gun.
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Ian07 » October 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
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You forgot to remove the eaters and make it a gun.
This is trivial to do just by removing gliders. Do note though that, at least for Shinjuku, it has to be fully capped because Shinjuku doesn't really support linear growth patterns.

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

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What is Shinjuku?
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Ian07 » October 7th, 2019, 7:06 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 7:00 pm
What is Shinjuku?
Oh yeah, I forgot you weren't here when Shinjuku came out in April. Basically it's a new glider synthesis database that runs on lifelib and is used by Catagolue to display syntheses on object pages. You can find more information in this thread. There's also a page on Catagolue where you can browse syntheses and even submit your own now (with a few caveats) and the database on Catagolue updates automatically.

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 26th, 2019, 4:17 am

Kazyan wrote:
June 9th, 2019, 3:51 pm
Freywa wrote:A similar strategy should be available to synthesise any larger snark loop. With these and a few other oscillators I've already added to Shinjuku, for every period with a known oscillator there is a synthesis of at least one oscillator of that period, except period 39. The first person to synthesise a non-trivial period-39 oscillator will win a prize from me.
Short keys on Beluchenko's p13:

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x = 43, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
41bo$40bo$30bo9b3o$29bo$29b3o8$10bo$8bobo$9b2o2$11bo$11bobo$11b2o2$7bo
$8bo22b2o$6b3o22b2o$2bo$obo$b2o28b3o$33bo4b3o$9bobo13b2o2bo3bobobo$9b
2o14b2o2bo6bob3o$10bo5b2o11b3o4bo$16b2o$31bo$32b2o$31bo$11b2o17bobo$
11b2o17bobo$24b2o4bobo$24b2o$11b2o$11b2o4$16b2o$10bo5b2o$9b2o$9bobo2$b
2o$obo$2bo$6b3o$8bo$7bo2$11b2o$11bobo$11bo2$9b2o$8bobo$10bo8$29b3o$29b
o$30bo9b3o$40bo$41bo!
Shinjuku already knows how to make Beluchenko's p13, and the block placements are trivial.
That is 38G:

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x = 99, y = 130, rule = B3/S23
98bo$96b2o$87bo9b2o$85b2o$86b2o8$8bobo$9b2o$9bo2$67bobo$67b2o$68bo2$6b
o$7b2o$6b2o$obo$b2o$bo$66bo$65bo$65b3o4$76bo$75bo$70bo4b3o$70bobo$70b
2o3$50bobo22bo$51b2o22bobo$28bo22bo23b2o4bo$18bobo8b2o48b2o$19b2o7b2o
50b2o$19bo12bo$33b2o$32b2o9bo$44b2o$43b2o$72bobo$52bo19b2o$53bo19bo$
51b3o14$38b3o$40bo$39bo43b2o$82b2o$84bo$37b2o4b3o$36bobo6bo$38bo5bo$
25b2o$26b2o42b2o$25bo44bobo$70bo$44b2o$43bobo$45bo3$16bo$16b2o$15bobo
11b2o$30b2o$29bo$17b2o$16bobo$18bo$63b2o$63bobo$63bo3$19b2o$20b2o$19bo
$71b2o$70b2o$65b3o4bo$65bo$66bo$bo$b2o$obo$6b2o$7b2o$6bo2$68bo$67b2o$
67bobo2$9bo$9b2o$8bobo8$86b2o$85b2o$87bo9b2o$96b2o$98bo!
EDIT: Can someone do a demonstration of how to use reverse caber tosser to construct something needing more than 35 gliders (like the p39 oscillator above) with 35 gliders?
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by wildmyron » November 26th, 2019, 5:11 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 4:17 am
EDIT: Can someone do a demonstration of how to use reverse caber tosser to construct something needing more than 35 gliders (like the p39 oscillator above) with 35 gliders?
The Reverse Caber Tosser 35G synthesis of any synthesisable pattern is a theoretical construct. The construction of the pattern is the essence of a proof that such a synthesis is possible. But with current technology and knowledge it is infeasible to construct such a pattern. I don't believe it is currently even possible to calculate the position of all gliders required to construct a pulsar, or other simple object. And it is almost certainly impossible to run such a pattern with any current simulator even if it could be constructed. There has been discussion of this topic in various places on the forum, in particular the original Building a reverse-caber-tosser thread. Dvgrn's post on this specific question is a little more optimistic than my statements here, but I'm unconvinced that we'll see such a pattern running to completion any time soon.
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by dvgrn » November 26th, 2019, 12:45 pm

wildmyron wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 5:11 am
Dvgrn's post on this specific question is a little more optimistic than my statements here, but I'm unconvinced that we'll see such a pattern running to completion any time soon.
There's a more recent post listing all the remaining unsolved issues. It shares pretty much the same view of the RCT as the other post, but might seem a little less optimistic about the possibility of someday running a 35-glider RCT pattern to completion.

Please Can We Just Use A Few More Gliders?
I'd say the biggest problem is that optimizing the RCT all the way down to 35 gliders has made things a lot more difficult. For example, if we had a 99-glider budget instead of a 35-glider budget, we could drop a few blocks here and there to stop all the incoming GPSEs relatively cleanly. In the 35-glider model we have to build those blocks at a ridiculously high cost, with slow^3 gliders.

Just getting those simple "stopper" objects built, before the GPSEs arrive near the construction site, already moves the problem far enough out on the tedious-annoyance scale that no one really wants to spend the time to build a sample -- even though that part is all known technology, and not even all that difficult.

But it gets much more tedious and annoying than that. There's some interesting engineering that could be done, to build a 1G seed constellation for the fleets of Corderships that will clean up the GPSE debris. A sample Cordership fleet has been done for the isolated GPSE in the 59-glider version of the RCT -- it came out to a glider plus 11 Corderships. But then we'd need an even larger seed constellation, waiting behind the first one and activated by the return glider, to produce the meteor shower that cleans up the huge amount of ash left by those eleven Corderships crashing into the GPSE's startup debris.

The Next Few Steps Aren't Too Hard
In the 35-glider model, we'll need completely different cleanup Cordership-fleet seeds for the 3-GPSE group and the 2-GPSE group plus the Sakapuffer -- see the first link above. So if anyone wants to make progress on this project, the first step might be to invent those Cordership cleanup fleets. If someone builds those fleets, I might not be able to resist making actual seed constellations for them.

Here again, we're still definitely within known technology. A set of huge ugly meteor shower seeds for the leftovers from the 3-GPSE and 2-GPSE groups could be compiled by a script fairly easily, and then we really would have explicitly constructed patterns that would show exactly how the large majority of the RCT's temporary debris will be cleaned up. (Let's not get into the BLSE cleanup problem until -- it's even worse, but there's still some hope that it can be avoided... while maybe getting a number even lower than 35!)

... But The Total Project Is Still A Little Bit Crazy
Unfortunately the slow^3-salvo recipes for all of these enormous cleanup seed constellations will have to be coded into the position of the Sakapuffer, along with the recipe for whatever we actually want to build. It just doesn't look good for ever constructing a working Hashlife-runnable pattern. But quite possibly some future HashHashLife algorithm -- or a completely custom RCT-simulation algo -- will be able to do better.

If we allowed ourselves let's say a 999-glider budget instead of just 35 gliders, almost all of these problems would go away: we could construct clean non-GPSE glider sources, and shoot them down cleanly when they weren't needed any more. And shoot down the BLSE instead of stopping it from behind -- or just build a simple block-keeper including self-destruct circuitry, and avoid that whole awkward cleanup problem entirely, too.

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by testitemqlstudop » December 7th, 2019, 5:07 am

Fine, but can you at least demonstrate the 329-glider RCT model for a pulsar?

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by dvgrn » December 7th, 2019, 8:50 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 5:07 am
Fine, but can you at least demonstrate the 329-glider RCT model for a pulsar?
Sure, if someone else will do all the time-consuming boring part... except I'd suggest allowing 999 gliders to simplify the cleanup problem, as described above, so we can actually concentrate on using the tape recipe to build the pulsar.

For example, we could just go ahead and pre-construct the block-keeper that calcyman talks about as an intermediate stage of the 35-glider RCT, to increase the efficiency of the recipe and reduce the cleanup problem. Someone could easily figure out the right sequence of bits to build a pulsar instead of a honeyfarm here:

Recipe for a honeyfarm:

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x = 227, y = 276, rule = LifeHistory
12.D$13.2D$2BA9.2D$3BA4.2B$.3AD2.BABA$3.2BD2.B2A$3.3DB2.ADBD$4.4B2.B
2DB$5.4B2.D3B$6.4B2.4B$7.4B2.4B$8.4B2.4B$9.4B2.4B$10.4B2.4B$11.4B2.4B
$12.4B2.3B$13.4B2.2B11$40.B$39.BAB$39.2B2A$40.2AD$43.2D$30.2BA9.2D$
30.3BA4.2B$31.3AD2.BABA$33.2BD2.B2A$33.3DB2.ADBD$34.4B2.B2DB$35.4B2.D
3B$36.4B2.4B$37.4B2.4B$38.4B2.4B$39.4B2.4B$40.4B2.4B$41.4B2.4B$42.4B
2.3B$43.4B2.2B14$72.D$73.2D$60.2BA9.2D$60.3BA4.2B$61.3AD2.BABA$63.2BD
2.B2A$63.3DB2.ADBD$64.4B2.B2DB$65.4B2.D3B$66.4B2.4B$67.4B2.4B$68.4B2.
4B$69.4B2.4B$70.4B2.4B$71.4B2.4B$72.4B2.4B$73.4B2.4B$74.4B2.4B$75.4B
2.4B$76.4B2.4B$77.4B2.4B$78.4B2.4B$79.4B2.4B$80.4B2.4B$81.4B2.4B$82.
4B2.4B$83.4B2.4B$84.4B2.4B$85.4B2.4B$86.4B2.4B$87.4B2.4B5.D$88.4B2.4B
5.2D$89.3BA2.4B3.2D$90.3BA2.4B$91.3AD2.BABA$92.3BD2.B2AB$93.3DB2.ADBD
$94.4B2.B2DB$95.4B2.D3B$96.4B2.4B$97.4B2.4B$98.4B2.4B$99.4B2.4B$100.
4B2.4B$101.4B2.4B$102.4B2.4B$103.4B2.4B$104.4B2.4B2.2B$105.4B2.8B$
106.4B2.9B$107.4B2.9B$108.14B$109.12B$110.10B$111.3B2C5B$112.2B2CB.4B
$111.6B2.4B$110.8B2.4B$110.9B2.4B$109.11B2.4B$108.13B2.4B$107.15B2.4B
$106.17B2.4B$105.19B2.4B$104.16B.4B2.4B$104.16B2.4B2.4B$104.16B3.4B2.
4B$99.2A4.14B5.4B2.4B$99.A.A2.14B7.4B2.4B$100.A18B7.4B2.4B$102.18B7.
4B2.4B$102.17B9.4B2.4B$101.17B11.4B2.4B$99.18B3.2A8.4B2.4B$92.B.23B2.
B2AB8.4B2.4B$91.2AB.22B2.4B9.4B2.4B$91.2A26B.3B2.B7.4B2.4B$92.2B.32B
7.4B2.4B$95.33B7.4B2.4B$94.34B8.4B2.4B$94.34B9.4B2.4B$92.2AB4.29B10.
4B2.4B$91.A.AB3.30B11.4B2.4B$91.A6.30B12.4B2.4B$90.2A4.2AB2.14B.11B$
95.A.AB3.4B.16B.2B$95.A11.12B4.4B$94.2A11.12B4.B2AB$108.11B5.2A$106.
4B.4B3DB$106.2A4.4BD2B$107.A4.2B3D2B$104.3A6.6B$104.A8.7B$113.8B$114.
8B$114.8B$113.6B2.B2A$113.7B.BA.A$114.6B4.A$114.6B4.2A$114.6B$113.8B$
112.8B$112.9B$112.9B$111.10B$111.3B2A5B$105.2A3.4B2A5B$106.A3.11B$
106.A.A7BD4B$107.2A2.4B3DB$112.2B2D2BD5.2A$114.7B2.B2A2B$113.9B2.4B6.
2A$108.2B.11B.6B5.A$108.22B.BA.A$107.23B.B2A$107.25B$104.28B$104.28B$
102.29B$102.28B$101.28B$101.26B$101.27B$103.23B.B2A$106.20B.BA.A$110.
16B4.A54.4B2.4B$109.18B3.2A54.4B2.4B$108.20B59.4B2.4B$107.20B61.4B2.
4B$106.18B65.4B2.4B$107.16B67.4B2.4B$108.13B70.4B2.4B$108.5B2A2B.4B
70.4B2.4B5.B.2B$110.3B2A2B2.4B70.4B2.4B3.5B$110.8B2.2B2A70.4B2.4B2.7B
$109.3B3D2B4.BA2B70.4B2.13B.B$109.4BD3B5.B3A70.4B2.11B.B2A$109.2B3D2B
7.2BAB70.4B2.12B2A$109.7B8.4B70.4B2.9B.2B4.A$110.6B7.A75.4B.9B5.3A$
110.6B6.A.A74.15B3.A$6.2A103.5B6.A.A71.2B.6BA10B.2A$6.2A103.6B4.2A.3A
68.2A7BABA12B$110.6B6.B4.A67.2AB.5BABA10B$110.7B3.B2AB3A69.B.7BA12B$
111.8B.B2A.A74.18B.B$111.10B79.20B$110.3B2A6B79.20B$104.2A5.2B2A6B80.
18B$105.A5.10B81.5B2A10B$105.A.AB2.11B80.5B2A10B$106.2AB.12B81.15B2.B
2A$108.15B81.15B.B2A.2B$108.16B81.20B2A$108.16B.2B21.A56.20B2A$108.
18B2A20.3A55.17B.2B$107.17B.B2A23.A55.15B$106.4B2.8B.4B.B23.2A55.15B$
105.4B4.7B30.5B8.A40.17B$104.4B5.6B33.4B5.3A36.3B2A14B$103.4B6.4B33.
7B3.A39.2BA2BA13B$102.4B5.A3B34.9B2.2A35.6BABA12B$101.4B5.A.AB33.11B.
3B2.B15.A11.2A3.7BA13B$100.4B6.A.A34.13B3.3B13.A.A9.B2AB2.20B$99.4B8.
A22.A11.2A18B13.A.A9.3B3.11BD8B$98.4B6.3A21.3A11.2A18B7.2A2.3A.2A9.B.
B2.11B3D6B$97.4B7.A22.A15.B.18B6.A2.A4.B8.5B2.12BD6B$96.4B31.2A17.18B
2.BA.A3.3AB2A6.6B2.19B$95.4B30.4B15.20B.2B2A6.A.2A4.8B.19B$94.4B10.A
19.3B5.B.7B2.25B9.13B3.17B$93.4B11.3A16.4B.13B2.24B12.13B.17B$92.4B
15.A8.26BD23B12.31B$91.4B15.2A7.4BD21BD23B2.B10.31B$90.4B16.5B.B2.4B
3D18B2D28B5.B.30B$89.4B19.6B.4BDBD15B2A2B2D51B2.2B2.7B$88.4B4.B.7B7.
13BD15B2A3BD22B2ABD11B2A2B2D9B6.6B$87.4B.13B3.B.19B2.2B3.11B.21B2AB3D
9B2A2BDBD9B5.6B$77.B2.26BD19B11.10B2.23BDBD13BD6B3.B2A4.7B$76.7BD21BD
18B16.6B3.25BD19B4.A2.A4.6B$76.7B3D18B2D17B19.3B5.28B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.
A2.6B$74.9BDBD15B2A2B2D17B20.B4.13B.7B2.4B13.6B7.A3.5B$74.11BD15B2A3B
D9B.7B20.2A3.13B2.6B17.9B6.2A2.6B$73.BA14B2.2B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A19.A5.
11B3.3B19.2A4.4B9.6B$73.ABA10B11.10B3.4B9.BA.A15.3A8.9B4.B21.A5.4B8.
7B$73.ABA8B16.6B5.5B10.A15.A10.8B24.3A7.4B7.2B3D2B$74.A8B19.3B9.2A10.
2A25.8B24.A10.4B5.3BD4B$74.10B20.B9.A40.6B36.4B4.2B3D3B$75.9B20.2A9.
3A37.5B38.4B2.8B$76.8B21.A11.A39.3B39.4B2.2B2A3B$76.7B19.3A95.4B.2B2A
5B$77.5B20.A98.13B$79.2B118.20B$199.22B$199.22B$199.24B$200.24B$202.
22B$200.24B$199.25B$199.23B$199.24B$192.B3.27B$191.2AB.27B$191.2A27B$
192.26B$193.B2.20B$197.18B$200.15B$198.5B.10B$198.2A5.9B$199.A5.8B$
196.3A7.B.3B$196.A11.2B!
We might have a budget of about 2^12 to 2^16 bits that we can encode into the position of a Cordership and actually run in Golly, before the current HashLife algorithm starts finding the pattern too difficult to handle. So we could build something a bit more impressive than a pulsar if we wanted to, maybe something about as complicated as a Cordership or loafer or Snark -- a rough estimate says any of those might be 4-5K bits with this system.

Sample RCT with block-keeper but without cleanup:

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x = 6010, y = 6012, rule = B3/S23
6008bo$6007bo$6007b3o78$74bo$75bo361bo$73b3o360bo$436b3o16$109bo$107bo
bo$108b2o$428bo$427bo$427b3o14$102bo$103bo$101b3o2$408bo$408bobo$408b
2o37$165bobo$166b2o$166bo2$429bo$145bo283bobo$146b2o281b2o$145b2o2$
410bo$409bo$409b3o891$1250bo$1251b2o$1250b2o270$1348bo$1349bo$1347b3o
6$1338bo$1339b2o$1338b2o15$1351bo$1352b2o$1351b2o$1364bo$1362bobo$
1363b2o6$1360bobo$1350bobo8b2o$1351b2o8bo$1351bo295$4532bo$4531bo$
4531b3o$1921bo$1922bo$1920b3o14bo$1938b2o$1937b2o$1790bo$1791b2o$1790b
2o2$1938bobo2600bobo$1939b2o2600b2o$1798bo140bo2602bo$1799bo$1797b3o
11$1805bobo$1806b2o$1806bo13$1822bo$1823b2o$1822b2o2$1834bobo$1835b2o$
1835bo16$1838bobo$1839b2o$1839bo4$1847bo$1845bobo$1846b2o23$1927bo$
1928bo$1926b3o6$1867bo$1868b2o$1867b2o32$1911bo$1912bo$1910b3o2$1924bo
$1922bobo$1923b2o138$4586bobo$4586b2o$4587bo4$4579bo$4579bobo$4579b2o
38$1949bo2193bo$1947bobo2192bo$1948b2o2192b3o412bo$4555b2o$4556b2o4$
4136bobo$4136b2o$4137bo$2310bo$2308bobo16bo$2309b2o17bo$2319bo6b3o$
2320bo$2311bo6b3o$2312bo$2310b3o23$4517bobo$4517b2o$4508bobo7bo$4508b
2o$1895bo2613bo$1893bobo$1894b2o2626bobo$4522b2o$4523bo13$1916bo$1917b
2o$1916b2o466bo$2385b2o$2384b2o4$1901bobo$1902b2o$1902bo$4168bo$4166b
2o$4161bobo3b2o$4161b2o$1911bo2250bo$1912b2o$1911b2o473bobo$2387b2o$
2387bo2$4163bobo$4163b2o$4164bo3$2295bo97bo$2296bo97bo$2294b3o95b3o$
4165bobo$2307bobo1855b2o$2308b2o1856bo$2308bo4$4142bo$4142bobo$4142b2o
$2319bo$2320b2o$2319b2o2$4146bobo$4146b2o$4147bo$4125bo$4123b2o$4124b
2o5$4143bo13bo$2338bo1804bobo10bo$2339b2o1802b2o11b3o$2338b2o6$2340bob
o$2341b2o$2341bo4$2349bo$2339bo10bo$2340bo7b3o$2338b3o55$2275bo$2276b
2o$2275b2o$2288bo$2286bobo$2287b2o6$2284bobo$2274bobo8b2o$2275b2o8bo$
2275bo36$4278bo$4278bobo$4278b2o4$4283bo$4282bo$4282b3o38$4227bobo$
4227b2o$4228bo$4235bo$4235bobo$4235b2o2$4226bo$4224b2o$2178bo2046b2o$
2179bo$2177b3o11$4210bo$4210bobo$4210b2o3$2176bobo$2177b2o$2177bo2040b
o$4218bobo$4218b2o12$4195bo$4194bo$4194b3o2$4190bo$4189bo$4189b3o$
2196bobo$2197b2o$2197bo2001bo$4199bobo$4199b2o16$2459bobo$2460b2o$
2460bo13$3953bo$3952bo$3952b3o6$3946bobo$3946b2o$3947bo$2566bo$2564bob
o$2408bo156b2o$2409bo$2407b3o$3934bo$2412bo1521bobo$2410bobo1521b2o$
2411b2o$2557bo$2558b2o$2557b2o$2428bo$2429bo$2427b3o14bo16bobo$2445b2o
15b2o1441bo$2444b2o16bo1441bo$3904b3o$2447bobo1467bo$2448b2o1467bobo$
2448bo30bo1437b2o$2480b2o$2474bo4b2o$2475bo$2473b3o18bo$2437bo57b2o$
2438b2o54b2o$2437b2o2$3905bo$3905bobo$3905b2o3$2384bo96bobo1455bo5bo$
2385bo96b2o1454bo4b2o$2383b3o96bo1455b3o3b2o2$2486bo$2399bobo85bo$
2400b2o83b3o$2400bo3$2409bo$2410b2o$2409b2o$2485bo1443bobo$2483bobo
1443b2o$2484b2o1444bo4$2482bo$2480bobo$2481b2o5$2487bo$2488b2o$2487b2o
$3960bo$3959bo$3942bo16b3o$3942bobo$3942b2o7bo$3949b2o$3950b2o7bo$
3957b2o$3958b2o62$3868bo$3866b2o$3867b2o3$3871bobo$3871b2o$3872bo2$
2218bo$2219bo$2217b3o4$3867bo$3867bobo$3867b2o2$3862bo$3862bobo$2226bo
1635b2o$2227b2o$2226b2o1644bo$3871bo$3871b3o83$2823bo$2824bo$2815bo6b
3o$2816bo$2807bo6b3o$2808bo$2806b3o35$4079bo$4077b2o$4078b2o6$4081bo$
4079b2o$4080b2o11$2645bo$2646bo$2644b3o2$2650bo$2651bo$2649b3o$4068bob
o$2646bo1421b2o$2641bo5b2o1420bo$2639bobo4b2o$2640b2o$4061bo$4060bo$
4060b3o25$2929bobo$2930b2o$2930bo2$2925bo$2926b2o$2925b2o3$3766bo$
3766bobo$3766b2o3$2930bo$2931bo$2929b3o2$2935bo$2936bo$2934b3o$3757bob
o$3757b2o$2926bo831bo$2924bobo$2925b2o128$3595bo$3594bo$3594b3o4$2654b
o$2655bo$2653b3o$2629bo$2630bo$2628b3o4$2653bo1181bobo$2632bo18bobo
1181b2o$2630bobo19b2o1182bo$2631b2o$2642bobo$2643b2o$2643bo212bobo$
2857b2o$2857bo2$2852bo$2853b2o$2852b2o3$4217bo$4217bobo$4217b2o11$
2664bo$2662bobo$2663b2o5$2674bo$2675b2o1187bo4bobo$2674b2o1188bobo2b2o
$3864b2o4bo44$3514bo$3514bobo$2702bo811b2o$2703b2o$2702b2o104$2870bo$
2871bo$2869b3o4$2869bobo$2870b2o809bobo$2870bo810b2o8bo$3682bo6b2o$
3690b2o21$3644bo$2832bo811bobo$2833bo810b2o$2831b3o25$2840bo$2841bo$
2839b3o41$3129bo$3127bobo$3128b2o2$3134bo$3132bobo$3133b2o803bo$3936b
2o$3124bo812b2o$3125bo$3123b3o68$3847bo17bo$3845b2o17bo$3846b2o16b3o3$
3854bobo12bo$3854b2o13bobo$3855bo13b2o3$3850bobo$3850b2o$3851bo174$
2750b2o$2749bobo$2751bo813bo$3564b2o$3564bobo66$2820b2o$2821b2o$2820bo
4$2810b3o$2812bo$2811bo40$3765bo$3751b2o11b2o$3750b2o12bobo$3752bo266$
2324b2o$2325b2o$2324bo146b2o$2472b2o$2471bo2$2314b3o$2316bo135b3o12b2o
$2300b2o13bo138bo13b2o$2299bobo151bo13bo$2301bo$2457b2o17bo$2456bobo
17b2o$2458bo16bobo$2300b2o$2299bobo323b2o$2301bo194b3o127b2o1345bo$
2498bo126bo1346b2o$2497bo1474bobo2$4170b2o$2618b2o1550bobo$2617bobo21b
o1528bo$2619bo21b2o$2640bobo1322bo$3964b2o$2442b2o1520bobo211bo$2441bo
bo1733b2o$2443bo1733bobo12$2445bo$2445b2o$2444bobo5$2416bo$2416b2o14bo
$2415bobo14b2o5b3o$2431bobo7bo$2440bo4$2417b2o$2416bobo$2418bo$3930b2o
189b3o$3930bobo188bo$3930bo191bo$3681b3o$2357bo511b2o810bo$2357b2o509b
obo811bo$2356bobo511bo$4149b3o$4149bo$2366b2o1782bo$2367b2o$2366bo2$
2361b2o$2362b2o1562b2o$2361bo1563b2o$3927bo$3930bo$3929b2o228bo$3929bo
bo13bo212b2o$3944b2o212bobo$2344b2o1598bobo$2333b3o9b2o$2335bo8bo12b2o
$2334bo21bobo$2358bo1595b2o$3953b2o$2823b2o1130bo$2361b3o460b2o6bo
1135b3o$2363bo459bo8b2o810bo323bo$2362bo468bobo809b2o324bo$3643bobo$
4155bo$4154b2o$4154bobo$2345b3o1295b3o$2347bo1295bo$2346bo1297bo2$
2335b2o$2336b2o$2335bo60bo$2343b2o51b2o$2342bobo50bobo6bo$2344bo59b2o$
2403bobo$2411b3o$2413bo$2412bo$2392b3o$2394bo$2393bo$2842bo1072b2o$
2842b2o1070b2o$2841bobo1072bo5$3921b2o$3921bobo$3921bo28$2280b3o$2282b
o$2281bo4$2285b2o$2284bobo$2286bo3$3931bo$3930b2o$3930bobo85$2646bo4b
2o$2646b2o2bobo1184b2o$2645bobo4bo1183b2o$3838bo6$3025b3o$3027bo$3026b
o4$3848b2o$3848bobo$3848bo5$3026b2o$3025bobo$3027bo832b2o$3859b2o214b
2o$3861bo213bobo$4075bo3$2660b3o$2662bo1416bo$2661bo1416b2o$4078bobo2$
4088b2o$4087b2o$4089bo$4085bo$4084b2o$2676bo1186b2o219bobo$2676b2o
1185bobo$2675bobo1185bo7$3861b3o$3861bo$3862bo40$2219b2o12bo$2220b2o
11b2o$2219bo12bobo73$4289bo$4279bo8b2o$4278b2o8bobo$4278bobo6$4276b2o$
4276bobo$4276bo$4288b2o$4287b2o$4289bo4$4216bo$4215b2o$4215bobo35$
1921b2o$1920bobo$1922bo15$4224b2o$4214b2o7b2o$4213b2o10bo$4215bo2$
4205bo$1922b2o2280b2o$1923b2o2279bobo$1922bo2$2182b3o18b2o$2184bo19b2o
$2183bo19bo4$4229b3o$4229bo$4230bo3$2178b3o$1833bo346bo$1833b2o344bo
2052b2o$1832bobo2397bobo$4232bo21$1801bo$1801b2o46b2o$1800bobo47b2o$
1849bo2641b2o$4491bo4$1810b2o$1809bobo$1811bo2660b2o$4471b2o$4473bo10$
1864b2o$1863bobo$1865bo4$1857bo$1857b2o$1856bobo156$4576b2o$4575b2o$
4577bo7$1985b2o$1986b2o$1985bo40$1936b3o$1938bo$1937bo$4501b2o$1937bo
2562b2o$1937b2o2563bo$1936bobo2$1928b3o$1930bo2571b2o$1929bo2572bobo$
4491b3o8bo$4491bo$4492bo38$4533b2o$4513b2o18bobo$4513bobo17bo$4513bo3$
4526bo$4525b2o$4525bobo14$1897b2o$1896bobo$1898bo2621bo$4519b2o$4519bo
bo3$1905bo$1905b2o$1904bobo2$1898b2o$1897bobo$1899bo2609bo$4508b2o24b
3o$4508bobo23bo$4535bo2$1916b2o$1915bobo$1917bo4$1909b2o$1908bobo$
1910bo$1898b3o$1900bo$1899bo$4501b3o$4501bo$4502bo5$1913b3o$1915bo$
1914bo$4516b3o$4516bo$4517bo34$1976b2o$1977b2o$1976bo2$4435b2o$4435bob
o$4435bo5$2013b2o$2012bobo$2014bo7$2008b2o$2007bobo$2009bo$1993b2o$
1994b2o$1993bo2489b2o$4482b2o$4484bo8$1990b3o$1992bo$1984b2o5bo$1983bo
bo$1985bo$4476bo$4475b2o$4475bobo6$4481b3o125b2o$4481bo127bobo$4482bo
126bo78$1432b3o$1434bo$1433bo11$4687b2o$4687bobo$4687bo49$1368b3o$
1370bo$1369bo3$1343b2o$1344b2o$1343bo$1356b3o$1358bo$1357bo4$1361b2o$
1360bobo$1362bo$1335b2o$1334bobo$1336bo4$1328bo$1328b2o$1327bobo289$
5450b2o$5449b2o$5451bo63$5433bo$5434bo$5432b3o4bobo$5440b2o$5440bo22$
5471bo$5472b2o$5471b2o2$5463bo$5464bo$5462b3o4bobo$5470b2o$5470bo26$
5493bo$5494bo$5492b3o4bobo$5500b2o$5500bo26$5523bo$5524bo$5522b3o4bobo
$5530b2o$5530bo18$5545b2o$5545b2o12$5530b2o$5530bobo$5531bo4$5551b2o$
5551b2o$5522b2o$5522b2o5$5523b2o$5522bobo$5522bo$5521b2o4b2o$5526bobo$
5526bo$5525b2o28b2o$5555b2o2$5537b2o$5538bo$5535b3o$5535bo2$5486b2o$
5486b2o$5553b2o$5553bobo$5555bo$5555b2o7$5545b2o$5536b2o7b2o$5537bo$
5537bobo$5538b2o$5555b2o$5555b2o$5565b2o$5565bo$5563bobo$5563b2o9$
5559b2o$5559bobo$5561bo$5561b2o6$5544b2o$5544b2o$5552b2o$5552bo$5553b
3o90b2o$5555bo90b2o$5651bo$5554bo94b3o$5553bobo92bo$5553bobo80bo11b2o$
5552b2ob3o68b2o7bobo$5558bo67b2o7bobo$5552b2ob3o78bo$5552b2obo2$5544b
2o$5535b2o7b2o$5536bo101b2o$5536bobo99b2o$5537b2o113b2o$5652b2o$5656b
2o$5579bo76b2o$5557b2o20b3o$5557b2o23bo$5581b2o$5594bo$5592b3o39b2o$
5591bo41bo2bo$5542bo48b2o41bobo$5541bobo67bo11b2o10bo$5541bobo66bobo
10b2o$5542bo22bo11b2o31bobo$5539b3o21b3o11b2o25b2o2b3ob2o$5539bo22bo
41bo2bo$5562b2o38bobo3b3ob2o$5602b2o6bob2o$5539bo$5539b3o$5542bo$5541b
2o2$5572b2o$5572b2o26b2o13b2o$5600b2o13b2o$5630b2o$5629bo2bo$5630b2obo
$5532b2o99bo$5532b2o41b2o56b2o$5505bo49b2o19bo41b2o$5504bobo48bobo15b
3o43bo$5504bobo50bo15bo42b3o$5505bo39b2o10b2o57bo$5545bo$5535b2o9b3o$
5536bo11bo89b2o$5533b3o102b2o$5533bo12$5622b2o$5622b2o6$5629b2o$5630bo
$5627b3o$5627bo421$3o$2bo$bo!
The Pointless Boring Part
After the object gets constructed is where the tedium sets in. We'll want to use the rest of the 999-glider budget to stop all of the guns and shoot them all down, along with the block-keeper and the remains of the Cordership.

Those are all just gliders that start far far away, like three-plus times as far away as the Cordership, so they'll arrive to do the cleanup safely after the Cordership's signal-bouncing work is done. It wouldn't be difficult to find locations for all those gliders and drop them into the above pattern, but LifeViewer wouldn't like it much (unless they were done with the snazzy new PASTE feature) and I'm not sure what the point would be exactly.

Replacing all of those cleanup gliders with a seed constellation that builds them (or equivalents) would bring the total cost back down closer to 329 gliders, but would also mean that the seed constellation would have to be built along with the pulsar-or-whatever, using bits coming in from the Cordership. That seed constellation isn't too terribly hard to design, but as far as I can see it will cost many orders of magnitude more than 2^16 bits to build, so that's where it becomes impractical to build a demonstration pattern.

Notes So No One Complains About These Particular Things
1) There's a preblock in the southeast part of the pattern, which I lazily put there so I wouldn't have to move the Cordership recipe to switch the bit for the first signal coming back from the Cordership. That's just a little easy math, but it was faster not to do it.
2) The sample honeyfarm recipe is still shown near the block-keeper, and then the bits coming back from the Cordership extend it a bit, to make an equally boring two-beehive recipe.
3) Obviously part of the 999-glider budget would also include building the block-keeper out of gliders. I didn't bother with that because ...
4) ... the block-keeper can be made much more cheaply with a Spartan Hersrch connection between the Herschel receiver and the H-to-block. I just used syringes because they're easier.
5) There are a couple of diametrically opposed gliders fairly far off to the NE and SW, that build a block. That block is another of the objects that is really supposed to be built by the "RCT bits" encoded in the Cordership position, to get the cost down to 329 gliders.

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » January 9th, 2020, 4:16 am

I had earmarked the p49 bumper loop – or at least a larger variant of it – for synthesis soon after completing the p43 loop. Here is a p77 bumper loop in 99 gliders:

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x = 1100, y = 106, rule = B3/S23
1023bobo$1024b2o$1024bo$1044bo$1045bo$1043b3o2$1039b3o$1041bo4bobo
10bo$542bo497bo5b2o10bo$543b2o502bo10b3o$542b2o11bo$556b2o$555b2o
2$912bo$541bo32bo335bobo3bobo119b2o$542b2o30bobo334b2o3b2o119bo2bo
$541b2o31b2o341bo106bo12bo2bo$1025b2o11b2o$808bo215b2o$505bo300b2o
220bo$506b2o299b2o220b2o$505b2o521b2o4bo$1032bobo$817bo215b2o$499b
2o4b2o65b2o125bo9bo108bo$499bo4b2o66bo76b2o3b2o43b2o2bobo3bobo26bo
3bo63b2o8b3o19bo3bo89bo3bo116b2o3b2o$427bo69bobo6bo63bobo74bo3bobo
3bo40bobo2b2o4b2o24bobobobobobo60b2o26bo2bobobobo2bo82bobobobobobo
111b3obobob3o$426b2o69b2o71b2o3b2ob2o5bo60b2obobobobob2o45bo29bob
2obobob2obo87bobo2bobo2bobo81bob2obobob2obo109bo2bobobobo2bo$426bo
bo146b2ob2o4b2o65bobo81bo2b2ob2o2bo48bo11b2o10bobo14bo2b2ob2o2bo
83bo2b2ob2o2bo109bo3bobobobo3bo$421b3o160bobo64bobo82b2obobob2o50b
o10b2o10b2o19bobo88b2obobob2o116bobo22bo16bobo$423bo81b3o111bo29bo
bobobo80b2o5b2o48b3o23bo16b2o5b2o85b2o5b2o111bo4bobo4bo15b2o17b2o$
422bo82bo111b2o30b2o3b2o47bo32bo7bo58bo18bo13bo7bo85bo7bo113b3o3b
3o18b2o17bo$506bo111b2o29bo5bo47b3o97b3o16bobo13bo3bo$706bo99bo15b
2o75b2o121bo54bo$648b2o5b2o48b2o29b2o5b2o60b2o28bo2bo3bo2bo53b2o
29b2o5b2o63bo18bob3o26b2o5b2o14b2o$620b2o26b2o5b2o79b2o5b2o91b2o5b
2o55bo3bob3o21b2o5b2o64bo22bo2b2o21b2o5b2o15b2o$548bo71bobo276bo3b
6o92b3o17b2o3bo2b2o$548b2o29bo40bo277bo6bo114bo4bo$352bobo192bobo
29bobo317b5o56bo60b4o49bo$352b2o5bobo213b2o2b2o378bo114bobo$353bo
5b2o213b2o323b5o55b3o59b4o49b2o$322bo37bo215bo321bo6bo114bo4bo$
323b2o574bo3b6o112b2o3bo2b2o$322b2o247b3o326bo3bob3o117bo2b2o49b2o
$330bo214bo25bo327b2o58b2o60bob3o53bo2bo7bo$331b2o212b2o25bo326b2o
57b2o62bo56bo2bo8bo$330b2o212bobo259bo153bo119b2o7b3o$789bo17b2o
191bobo$789b2o15b2o193b2o91bo$788bobo210bo91bo$1093b3o$996b3o$357b
obo638bo91bo$357b2o638bo91b2o$358bo451b3o276bobo$119bobo690bo74bo
112b3o7b2o$93bo25b2o311b2o71bo70b3o84b3o87b2o56bo41bo34b2o57b2o51b
o8bo2bo56bo$94bo25bo311b2o70bobo68b4o83b4o87b2o98b2o32b2o58b2o52bo
7bo2bo53b3obo$92b3o329b3obo3bo64b2o2b3obo64b2o2bob2obo77b2o2bob2ob
o78b3obo3bo70b2o19b2o92b3obo3bo62b2o49b2o2bo$424b6o3bo63b2o3b2ob2o
63b2o2b2o3bo77b2o2b2o3bo78b6o3bo68b2o20b2ob3o2bobo83b6o3bo112b2o2b
o3b2o$89bo337bo6bo69bo2bo67b2o3bo81b2o3bo80bo6bo31bo37bo23bo5bo86b
o6bo116bo4bo$90b2o337b5o69b4o69b4o83b4o83b5o32b2o5bo55b5o31b3o55b
5o67b2o49b4o$85b2o2b2o695bobo5b2o92bo126bobo$84bobo29bobo310b5o69b
4o69b4o83b4o83b5o38bobo54b5o32bo56b5o68bo49b4o$86bo29b2o75bo233bo
6bo69bo2bo67b2o3bo81b2o3bo80bo6bo93bo5bo86bo6bo116bo4bo$117bo73bob
o230b6o3bo63b2o3b2ob2o63b2o2b2o3bo77b2o2b2o3bo78b6o3bo90b2ob3o2bob
o83b6o3bo112b2o2bo3b2o17b3o$157b2o5b2o26b2o35b2o5b2o65b2o5b2o82b2o
5b2o21b3obo3bo34b2o5b2o21b2o2b3obo34b2o5b2o21b2o2bob2obo47b2o5b2o
21b2o2bob2obo48b2o5b2o21b3obo3bo61b2o5b2o21b2o62b2o5b2o21b3obo3bo
66b2o15b2o5b2o21b2o2bo22bo$157b2o5b2o63b2o5b2o29b2o33bo2bo3bo2bo
28b2o51b2o5b2o29b2o33b2o5b2o28bobo33b2o5b2o26b4o48b2o5b2o26b4o49b
2o5b2o29b2o59bo2bo3bo2bo28b2o54b2o5b2o29b2o66b2o14b2o5b2o26b3obo
18bo$157b2o5b2o63b2o5b2o29bo56b2o15bo90b2o71bo70b3o84b3o87b2o98bo
93b2o65bo54bo$158b2o3b2o29b2o34b2o3b2o31b3o34bo3bo13bobo16b3o196bo
5bo80bo5bo182bo3bo$6bo150b2o5b2o29b2o32b2o5b2o32bo32bo7bo13bo18bo
49bo7bo64b2o5b2o65b2o3b2o80b2o3b2o80bo7bo91bo7bo85bo7bo75bo17b2o
18b3o3b3o$5bo33bo3bo114bobobobo29bo35bobobobo29bo36b2o5b2o16bo23b
3o39b2o5b2o63bob2o3b2obo64bobobobo80bobobobo80b2o5b2o91b2o5b2o85b
2o5b2o75b2o17b2o15bo4bobo4bo$5b3o32bobo36bobo78bobo69bobo29bobo39b
obo19b2o10b2o10bo41b2obobob2o62b3ob2ob2ob3o65bobo84bobo82b2obobob
2o94bobo88b2obobob2o74bobo16bo22bobo$obo35b3ob3o35b2o4b2ob2o69bobo
69bobo30b2o35bo2b2ob2o2bo14bobo10b2o11bo39bo2b2ob2o2bo61b3o2bobo2b
3o65bobo84bobo81bo2b2ob2o2bo89bo2b2ob2o2bo83bo2b2ob2o2bo109bo3bobo
bobo3bo$b2o44b2o31bo5b2ob2o3b2o59b3o2bobo2b3o59b3o2bobo2b3o61bobo
2bobo2bobo78bob2obobob2obo60b2o3bobo3b2o60b2obobobobob2o74b2obobob
obob2o75bob2obobob2obo87bobo2bobo2bobo81bob2obobob2obo109bo2bobobo
bo2bo$bo44bobo44bobo59b2obobobobob2o59b2obobobobob2o25b2o34bo2bobo
bobo2bo26b2o51bobobobobobo63b2obobob2o63bo3bobo3bo76bo3bobo3bo77bo
bobobobobo88bo2bobobobo2bo82bobobobobobo111b3obobob3o$46bo46bo65bo
3bo67bo3bo28bobo38bo3bo19b3o8b2o54bo3bo68bo3bo67b2o3b2o80b2o3b2o
82bo3bo95bo3bo89bo3bo116b2o3b2o$45b2o45b2o172bo62bo$330bo726b2o$
1057bobo$1057bo4b2o$339b2o720b2o$340b2o721bo$339bo726b2o$1052b2o
11b2o$90b2o31b2o805bo120bo2bo12bo$89bobo30b2o806b2o3b2o114bo2bo$
91bo32bo804bobo3bobo114b2o$935bo2$109b2o$108b2o$110bo11b2o$121b2o
908b3o10bo$123bo909bo10b2o5bo$1032bo10bobo4bo$1050b3o2$1046b3o$
1046bo$1047bo$1067bo$1066b2o$1066bobo!
Edit: 12-glider p49 bumper loop in 105:

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x = 1370, y = 141, rule = B3/S23
1277bobo$1278b2o$1278bo$1298bo$1299bo$1297b3o2$1293b3o$1295bo4bobo
10bo$633bo660bo5b2o10bo$634b2o665bo10b3o$633b2o11bo$647b2o$646b2o
2$1132bo$632bo32bo464bobo3bobo153b2o$633b2o30bobo463b2o3b2o153bo2b
o$632b2o31b2o470bo140bo12bo2bo$1279b2o11b2o$1278b2o$1282bo$1283b2o
$1282b2o4bo$1286bobo$1287b2o$572b2o89b2o$572bo90bo106bo3bo113bo3bo
129b2o3b2o123bo3bo150b2o3b2o$482bo87bobo88bobo102b2obobobobob2o
105b2obobobobob2o123bo3bobo3bo119b2obobob2o146b3obobob3o$481b2o87b
2o89b2o3b2ob2o5bo89b3o2bobo2b3o105b3o2bobo2b3o122b2obobobobob2o
116b2o3bobo3b2o143bo2bobobobo2bo$481bobo90b3ob3o85b2ob2o4b2o94bobo
115bobo132bobo121b3o2bobo2b3o142bo3bobobobo3bo$476b3o97bobo96bobo
93bobo115bobo132bobo121b3ob2ob2ob3o148bobo$478bo96bo3bo189bobobobo
111bobobobo128bobobobo120bob2o3b2obo144bo4bobo4bo$477bo290b2o5b2o
109b2o5b2o127b2o3b2o121b2o5b2o147b3o3b3o$769b2o3b2o111b2o3b2o128bo
5bo$768b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o404bo$768b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o126b2o5b2o120b2o
5b2o141b2o4b2o5b2o$768b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o126b2o5b2o120b2o5b2o140b2o
5b2o5b2o$639bo335bo$639b2o29bo302b2o$638bobo29bobo301b2o$666b2o2b
2o$665b2o$667bo316bo$839bo145bo$662b3o174bobo131b2o8b3o$636bo25bo
176b2o132b2o$636b2o25bo648bo$635bobo201b2o120bo11b2o10bobo325bo55b
o$839bobo120bo10b2o10b2o324b3o35bobo15b2o$721bo117bo120b3o23bo362b
2o17b2o$719b2o114bo134bo18bo360bo$720b2o113b3o132b3o16bobo267bo$
838bo134bo15b2o111b3o153bo2bo84bobo$837b2o133b2o128b4o151bo88b2o$
722b2o377bob2obo2b2o128bo17bo4bo2b2o80bo$722bobo376bo3b2o2b2o126bo
bo16b4o2bo2b2o10b2o$406bobo313bo377bo3b2o91bo40b2o16bo5bo13bobo66b
o$406b2o5bobo685b4o91bo60b5o16bo65bo$407bo5b2o781b3o145b3o$376bo
37bo686b4o152b5o$377b2o721bo3b2o150bo5bo$376b2o723bo3b2o2b2o145b4o
2bo2b2o84b2o$384bo716bob2obo2b2o85b2o59bo4bo2b2o83bo2bo$385b2o715b
4o89b2o60bo92bo2bo8bo$384b2o716b3o92bo60bo2bo89b2o7bobo$973bo285bo
101b2o$956bo17b2o261bo$956b2o15b2o263b2o25bo98bo$955bobo279b2o26b
2o97bobo$1233b2o29bobo65bobo29b2o$411bobo818bobo97b2o26b2o$411b2o
821bo98bo25b2o$412bo948bo$977b3o256b2o101bo$504b2o89b2o89bo115b2o
116b2o57bo75bo33bo92b3o51bobo7b2o89bo2bo$504b2o89b2o89b2o114b2o
116b2o56bo76b2o33b2o89b4o51bo8bo2bo92bo$496b3obo3bo82b3obo3bo82b2o
114b3obo3bo109b3obo3bo126b2o40b2o85b2o2bob2obo59bo2bo83b2o2bo4bo$
496b6o3bo81b6o3bo81b2ob3o2bobo105b6o3bo108b6o3bo69b2o54b2ob3o2bobo
118b2o2b2o3bo60b2o84b2o2bo2b4o$499bo6bo83bo6bo84bo5bo108bo6bo110bo
6bo67b2o59bo5bo123b2o3bo149bo5bo$501b5o86b5o86b5o111b5o113b5o32bo
37bo59b5o125b4o151b5o$954b2o5bo126b3o161b3o$501b5o86b5o86b5o111b5o
113b5o31bobo5b2o89b5o33bo91b4o68bo65bo16b5o$211bo287bo6bo83bo6bo
84bo5bo108bo6bo110bo6bo37bobo88bo5bo31bo91b2o3bo66bo66bobo13bo5bo
16b2o$209bobo284b6o3bo81b6o3bo81b2ob3o2bobo105b6o3bo108b6o3bo125b
2ob3o2bobo118b2o2b2o3bo134b2o10b2o2bo2b4o16bobo$210b2o284b3obo3bo
82b3obo3bo82b2o114b3obo3bo109b3obo3bo126b2o127b2o2bob2obo65bo80b2o
2bo4bo17bo$303b2o90b2o107b2o89b2o89b2o114b2o116b2o133b2o124b4o66b
2o88bo$303bo74b2o15bo108b2o89b2o89bo115b2o116b2o133bo126b3o65bobo
84bo2bo$212b2o90b3o70bobo16b3o940bo$213b2o91bo72bo18bo849bo$212bo
89bo79bo23b3o820b2o17b2o$300bobo79b2o10b2o10bo823b2o15bobo35b3o$
119bobo179b2o78bobo10b2o11bo821bo55bo$93bo25b2o1165bo$94bo25bo180b
2o91b2o$92b3o205bobo80b3o8b2o$302bo80bo$89bo294bo$90b2o$85b2o2b2o$
84bobo29bobo274b2o$86bo29b2o276b2o$117bo275bo$157b2o5b2o81b2o5b2o
83b2o5b2o100b2o5b2o82b2o5b2o82b2o5b2o107b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o126b2o5b
2o120b2o5b2o147b2o5b2o5b2o$157b2o5b2o81b2o5b2o83b2o5b2o100b2o5b2o
82b2o5b2o82b2o5b2o107b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o126b2o5b2o120b2o5b2o147b2o5b
2o4b2o$157b2o5b2o282b2o5b2o82b2o5b2o198b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o426bo$158b
2o3b2o175bo5bo102b2o3b2o84b2o3b2o84bo5bo109b2o3b2o111b2o3b2o128bo
5bo$6bo150b2o5b2o81b2o5b2o84b2o3b2o101b2o5b2o82b2o5b2o83b2o3b2o
108b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o127b2o3b2o121b2o5b2o147b3o3b3o$5bo33bo3bo114bo
bobobo81bob2o3b2obo83bobobobo102bobobobo84bobobobo84bobobobo109bob
obobo111bobobobo128bobobobo120bob2o3b2obo144bo4bobo4bo$5b3o32bobo
36bobo78bobo82b3ob2ob2ob3o84bobo106bobo88bobo88bobo113bobo115bobo
132bobo121b3ob2ob2ob3o148bobo$obo35b3ob3o35b2o4b2ob2o69bobo82b3o2b
obo2b3o84bobo106bobo88bobo88bobo113bobo115bobo132bobo121b3o2bobo2b
3o142bo3bobobobo3bo$b2o44b2o31bo5b2ob2o3b2o59b3o2bobo2b3o77b2o3bob
o3b2o79b2obobobobob2o96b3o2bobo2b3o78b3o2bobo2b3o78b2obobobobob2o
103b3o2bobo2b3o105b3o2bobo2b3o122b2obobobobob2o116b2o3bobo3b2o143b
o2bobobobo2bo$bo44bobo44bobo59b2obobobobob2o79b2obobob2o82bo3bobo
3bo97b2obobobobob2o78b2obobobobob2o79bo3bobo3bo104b2obobobobob2o
105b2obobobobob2o123bo3bobo3bo119b2obobob2o146b3obobob3o$46bo46bo
65bo3bo85bo3bo86b2o3b2o103bo3bo86bo3bo85b2o3b2o110bo3bo113bo3bo
129b2o3b2o123bo3bo150b2o3b2o$45b2o45b2o$1310b2o$1310bobo$1310bo4b
2o$1314b2o$1316bo$1319b2o$1305b2o11b2o$90b2o31b2o1024bo154bo2bo12b
o$89bobo30b2o1025b2o3b2o148bo2bo$91bo32bo1023bobo3bobo148b2o$1154b
o2$109b2o$108b2o$110bo11b2o$121b2o1161b3o10bo$123bo1162bo10b2o5bo$
1285bo10bobo4bo$1303b3o2$1299b3o$1299bo$1300bo$1320bo$1319b2o$
1319bobo!
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » January 9th, 2020, 6:33 am

P.S. the P49 bumper loop uses 37P7.1, not 38P7.2,
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » January 9th, 2020, 7:58 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
January 9th, 2020, 6:33 am
P.S. the P49 bumper loop uses 37P7.1, not 38P7.2,
I don't care. It's still a p49 bumper loop. Don't be overly picky on details.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » January 9th, 2020, 6:05 pm

I thought you are trying to construct the minimal form
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Re: p43 snark loop synthesis

Post by Freywa » January 9th, 2020, 9:13 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
January 9th, 2020, 6:05 pm
I thought you are trying to construct the minimal form
I'm not. 38P7.2 is much easier to synthesise than 37P7.1, so I chose that. For the purposes of Shinjuku only the period matters.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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