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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » April 15th, 2021, 5:53 pm

goldenratio wrote:
April 15th, 2021, 4:47 pm
Here was the output the script gave for this partial (the pond was a result of a bug in the script, but I guess we can thank that bug):
Makes perfect sense that it wouldn't detect the pond-the population is constant:

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x = 4, y = 2, rule = Immigration
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » April 15th, 2021, 11:14 pm

The larger p3 domino sparker in the p57 and p114 guns that I posted can be shortened by one row just by modifying the stator. Here are the corrected guns.

p57:

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x = 107, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
80b2o$79bobo$73b2o4bo$71bo2bo2b2ob4o$71b2obobobobo2bo$74bobobobo$74bob
ob2o$75bo2$88b2o$79b2o7bo$79b2o5bobo$86b2o2$80bo$79b2o$79bobo3$76b2o$
66bo10bo$66bobo5b3o$66b2o6bo3$3bo12b2o6bo77b2o$b3o5b2o5bobo5b3o75bo$o
3b2o2bo2bo7bo2b2o3bo76bo$3o3bo2b2o6b2o2bo3b3o56b2o5b3o6b5o$4b2o7bo2bo
5b2o43b2ob2o13bo8bo4bo$2obob3ob5o2b3ob3obob2o38bobobobo12bobo3bo2bo5b
3o$bobobo16bobobo35b2obo2bobobo13b2o3bo3b2o6bo$o2bo2bo3b8o3bo2bo2bo34b
2ob4o2bo20bo4bo2b4o$obo2bo2bo10bo2bo2b2o41b3o5bo14bobo3bo2bo3b2o$b2ob
2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo27bo6b7o7b3o15bo4bo3b3o2bo$4bo2bobo3b2o3bobo2bobo
25b2o6bo8bo4bo16bo4b2o6bob2o$b2o3b4o8b4o3b2o25b2o6bo3b2o2bo4b2o15bo3bo
8bo$bob3o3b4o2b4o3b3o35bob2o7b3o16bo3bo7b2o$3bo2b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o2bo39b
3o3bobo18b3o$bo2b4o5b2o5b4o35bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo$b4o18b4o27bo3bo2bobobo6b
2o20b2o$8b2ob6ob2o7bo25bobo5b3obob4o23bo$3b5o12b5o2bo24bobo2bob3o6bo2b
3o7b2o12b3o$2bo2bob3o2b4o2b3obo2bob2o23bobob2ob5o5b2o2bo8b2o13bo$2bob
3o2b2o6b2o2b3obo24b2o3bo3bo3bob2o3bo10bo$b2obobob2o8b2obobobo23bo2b3o
2b2o5bo4bo$o2b2obobob8obobob2o25bobo2b2obob3o5bo$2o10b4o31b3o2b3o4b5o
4b2o$38bo7bo3b3obo7bo3b2o2bo$37bo9bobo7b5o3bo3bo$37b3o6b2ob2o2bo3bo2b
2o4b3o$50bo2b6o3b2ob2o$46b4ob3obo2bo5bo$12bobo30bo3bo3bobo2bo3b2obo$2o
10bobo30b2o6b2obo5bo$2o12bo31bo4bo6b4o$10bo2bo32bobo3bo14b2o$13bo4b2o
27bobo3bo12bobo14bo$11b2obo2b3o28bo3b2o14bo14b3o$13b3o2bob2o52bo11bo$
13b2o4bo54b3o8b2o$19bo2bo8bo45bo8b2ob2o$18bo10b2ob2o42b2o9b4o$18bobo
12bo14bo37bo4b2o4b2o$18bobo8bo3bo52b2obo7b2o$30b3o16b2obo34b3obobo$51b
obob2o32b3obo$51b3ob2o34b3o$53b2o18bo17bo$72bo2bo$17b4o51bo3bo$11bobob
8obobo3b2o32b2o6bo3bo$10bob3o8b3obo2bo20b2o11b2o5b2o3bo12b2o$5bo3bobo
3bo6bo3bobobobo19bo19bo2bo13bo$4bobobob2o2bo2b4o2bo2b2obobobo15b3o38b
3o$4bobobo5bo8bo5bobobo15bo42bo$b2obob3o4b2o8b2o4b3obob2o36bo3b2o$bo2b
o2b2o4b2obo4bob2o4b2o2bo2bo35bobo3bo$3bob3o3b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o3b3obo36bob
o3bo28bo$4bo4bo4bobo4bobo4bo4bo37bo4bo27bobo$5b3o5bo3bo2bo3bo5b3o37b2o
5b3o25b2o$7bob2obo3b6o3bob2obo48bo$8bo7bo4bo7bo$7b2o2bobob2o4b2obobo2b
2o$3b2o3bob2o2b2obo2bob2o2b2obo3b2o$4bo2b2o8bo2bo8b2o2bo$4bobobo6bo6bo
6bobobo$5bo2b4obo3b4o3bob4o2bo$13b2o3b2o3b2o$2b2o2bo2b2ob2o10b2ob2o2bo
2b2o$bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$bobob2ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob2ob2obobo$
2b2o3bo2bob4ob4ob4obo2bo3b2o$5bo4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo$2b4obo3b16o3bob4o$bo4b
5o16b5o4bo$2b3o6bo2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo6b3o$4bobob3o3b2o2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$5b
2obo20bob2o!
p114:

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x = 74, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
43b2o6b2o12b2obob2o$3bo3b2o12b2o20b2o6bobo4b2ob2obo2b2obobo$2bobobo2bo
12bo30b3o2bo3bob2o4bobo$2bobob2obo4bo5bo31bo3bobob2o4b5ob2o$b2obo3bo3b
3o4bob4o28bo2bo2bobob2o4bobo$o3b3o4bo6bobo4bo27bob2obo2bo2bob2o3bo$3o
5bo2b2o5bobo2b2o31bo3bobo5bobo$4b3o2b3o2bob3ob3o29b2o2bo3bo2b3o2b2o$2o
bob2ob2obo2bo4bo3b2o31b2o2bobo6bobo$bobobo3bo3bo3b3o5bo26bo2bobo4b2obo
2bobobo$bobob2o2bob4o3bo4b2obo18b2o6b2obo6bo4bobobo$2bobo2bobob2o6bo5b
o17bo2bo5bobob2o3b6obo2bo$4bobo7bob5o5b2o9bo4bo4bo4b2obobo2b2o2bobobo$
4bo2b3ob3o4bo2bo13b2o3bobob3o5bo2bobobo4bobob2o$b2obo2b2obob3o5bob2o3b
o8b2o3bo10bo2bobobo4bobo$b2ob2o6bobo3bo4bob2o12b2o2bo8b2obobo2b2o2bobo
$4bo2bo4bo2bo5b2ob2obo8bo2b2o2bo8bobob2o3b6ob2o2b2o$4bob2o3b3obob3ob2o
bob2o8bo2b2o12b2obo6bo4bobo2bo$b2obobo4bo5bo4b2o3bo10bo3b2o8bo2bobo4b
2obo2bobobo$b2obobo4bo5bo4b2o3bo5b3obobo3b2o11b2o2bobo6bobo$4bob2o3b3o
bob3ob2obob2o4bo4bo4bo9b2o2bo3bo2b3o2b2o$4bo2bo4bo2bo5b2ob2obo5bo2bo
19bo3bobo5bobo$b2ob2o6bobo3bo4bob2o6b2o18bob2obo2bo2bob2o3bo$b2obo2b2o
bob3o5bob2o3bo25bo2bo2bobob2o4bobo$4bo2b3ob3o4bo2bo30bo3bobob2o4b5ob2o
$4bobo7bob5o5b2o25b3o2bo3b4o4bobo$2bobo2bobob2o6bo5bo29bobob2obo2bob2o
bobo$bobob2o2bob4o3bo4b2obo14bo14b2obobo4bobob2o$bobobo3bo3bo3b3o5bo
15b3o$2obob2ob2obo2bo4bo3b2o19bo7b2o$4b3o2b3o2bob3ob3o2b3o7bo7b2o8b2ob
o$3o5bo2b2o5bobo2b2o2bo5b3o17b6o$o3b3o4bo6bobo4bo8bo13bo9bo$b2obo3bo3b
3o4bob4o22bobo3b3ob3o$2bobob2obo4bo5bo26bo2bo4bo3bo$2bobobo2bo12bo25b
2o8b2o$3bo3b2o12b2o36b2o$60b2o$60bo$44b2o15b3o$45b2o16bo$44bo14$23b2o$
23b2o2$71bo$30b2o40bo$30b2o38b3o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by calcyman » April 16th, 2021, 7:17 am

Sokwe wrote:
April 15th, 2021, 11:14 pm
p114:

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x = 74, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
...
8 rows shaved off:

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x = 74, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
43b2o6b2o12b2obob2o$3bo3b2o12b2o20b2o6bobo4b2ob2obo2b2obobo$2bobobo2bo
12bo30b3o2bo3bob2o6bo$2bobob2obo4bo5bo31bo3bobob2o4b5ob2o$b2obo3bo3b3o
4bob4o27bobobobo2bob2o4bobo$o3b4o3bo6bobo4bo30bo4bo2b4o3bo$4o3b2o3bo5b
obob3o28bo3b2o3bo3bo3bo$3b2obo4bo3bob2obo36b4obob2obobo$2obo2b3ob2obob
o3bo3b2o27b2o3b2obo4bo3bobo$bobo3bobobo5b2o3bo2bo29bo5bob3obo2bobo$bob
ob2o2bob2ob3obo5bobo18bobo4bob3o6bobo2bobobo$2bobo2b3o4b3o7bo2bo16bo2b
o4bo3bo5bo2b2obo2bo$4bobo2bobo2b3o2b2o20b2obo2bo5bo3bobob2o3bobo$4bobo
b2obo6b2o6b2o7bobo2bo5bo3bo2b3obobo2b3obob2o$b2obo5bo2b2o5b2ob2o10bo3b
o5b2o3bo2b3obobo2b3obo$b2obo3bo4b2o3b2o3b3obo7bo3bo4bo8bo3bobob2o3bo$
4bo7bo4bob3o5bo8bo6bo8bo3bo5bo2b2ob2o2b2o$4bob2o2b3ob2o4b2o4bo8bo4bo3b
o7bob3o6bobo2bobo2bo$b2obobo9b2o5b4o2bo3b2o5bo3bo10bo5bob3obo2bobo$b2o
bobo9b2o5b4o2bo3bo5bo2bobo7b2o3b2obo4bo3bobo$4bob2o2b3ob2o4b2o4bo5bo2b
ob2o18b4obob2obobo$4bo7bo4bob3o5bo4bo2bo17bo3b2o3bo3bo3bo$b2obo3bo4b2o
3b2o3b3obo4bobo21bo4bo2b4o3bo$b2obo5bo2b2o5b2ob2o27bobobobo2bob2o4bobo
$4bobob2obo6b2o6b2o24bo3bobob2o4b5ob2o$4bobo2bobo2b3o2b2o32b3o2bo3b4o
6bo$2bobo2b3o4b3o7bo2bo27bobob2obo2bob2obobo$bobob2o2bob2ob3obo5bobo
29b2obobo4bobob2o$bobo3bobobo5b2o3bo2bo$2obo2b3ob2obobo3bo3b2o21bo$3b
2obo4bo3bob2obo4b3o18b3o9bo$4o3b2o3bo5bobob3o2bo21bo8bo$o3b4o3bo6bobo
4bo22b2o7bob2obo$b2obo3bo3b3o4bob4o8b2o27bo$2bobob2obo4bo5bo12b2o18bo
5bo3bo$2bobobo2bo12bo29bobo4bo2b2o$3bo3b2o12b2o29bo2bo3bo4bo$53b2o6bob
2o$43b2o$43b2o20b2o$65bo$66b3o$34b2o32bo$33bobob3o$32bo4b3o$32bo2bo$
28b2o$27bobo3b3o2bo2bo7b2obo$27bo10bobo8b2ob3o$26b2o27bo$49b2ob3o11bo$
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by yujh » April 16th, 2021, 8:39 am

suggesting to search sth like this one:

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x = 30, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
26b2o$13bo6b2ob2o$3b2o8b2o3b2o3b3obo$4bo7bo4bob3o5bo$4bob2o2b3ob2o4b2o
4bo$b2obobo9b2o5b4o2bo$b2obobo9b2o5b4o2bo$4bob2o2b3ob2o4b2o4bo$4bo7bo
4bob3o5bo$b2obo3bo4b2o3b2o3b3obo$b2obo5bo2b2o5b2ob2o$4bobob2obo6b2o6b
2o$4bobo2bobo2b3o2b2o$2bobo2b3o4b3o7bo2bo$bobob2o2bob2ob3obo5bobo$bobo
3bobobo5b2o3bo2bo$2obo2b3ob2obobo3bo3b2o$3b2obo4bo3bob2obo4b3o$4o3b2o
3bo5bobob3o2bo$o3b4o3bo6bobo4bo$b2obo3bo3b3o4bob4o$2bobob2obo4bo5bo$2b
obobo2bo12bo$3bo3b2o12b2o!
So there'll be a great reduction.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » April 16th, 2021, 9:54 am

calcyman wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 7:17 am
8 rows shaved off:
I thought about using I-conduits, but I misremembered how far away the second transparent block and fishhook were, so I didn't bother trying. I can see that I-conduits are in fact useful in this situation, though.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » April 16th, 2021, 12:18 pm

p57 gun sparker reduction:

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x = 107, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
80b2o$79bobo$73b2o4bo$71bo2bo2b2ob4o$71b2obobobobo2bo$74bobobobo$74bob
ob2o$75bo2$88b2o$79b2o7bo$79b2o5bobo$86b2o2$80bo$79b2o$79bobo3$76b2o$
66bo10bo$66bobo5b3o$66b2o6bo3$3bo12b2o6bo77b2o$b3o5b2o5bobo5b3o75bo$o
3b2o2bo2bo7bo2b2o3bo76bo$3o3bo2b2o6b2o2bo3b3o56b2o5b3o6b5o$4b2o7bo2bo
5b2o61bo8bo4bo$2obob3ob5o2b3ob3obob2o57bobo3bo2bo5b3o$bobobo16bobobo
59b2o3bo3b2o6bo$o2bo2bo3b8o3bo2bo2bo33b2o29bo4bo2b4o$obo2bo2bo10bo2bo
2b2o35bo28bobo3bo2bo3b2o$b2ob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo27bo6bobob2o26bo4bo3b
3o2bo$4bo2bobo3b2o3bobo2bobo25b2o5b3o2bobo24bo4b2o6bob2o$b2o3b4o8b4o3b
2o25b2o3bo3bobo26bo3bo8bo$bob3o3b4o2b4o3b3o33b4obo26bo3bo7b2o$3bo2b2o
3b2o2b2o3b2o2bo30b3o4bo2bo25b3o$bo2b4o5b2o5b4o30bo4b3o3bo$b4o18b4o26bo
b2ob2o5bo28b2o$8b2ob6ob2o7bo24bo2bobo2b2o32bo$3b5o12b5o2bo23bo3bo2bob
2ob2o2bo13b2o12b3o$2bo2bob3o2b4o2b3obo2bob2o23b3ob3obo2b5o14b2o13bo$2b
ob3o2b2o6b2o2b3obo23b3o3bo8bobo14bo$b2obobob2o8b2obobobo23bo2b3o2b2ob
2ob3o$o2b2obobob8obobob2o25bobo2b2obob2o7bo$2o10b4o31b3o2b3o4b5o4bobo$
38bo7bo3b3obo7bo3b3obo$37bo9bobo7b5o3bo3bo$37b3o6b2ob2o2bo3bo2b2o4b3o$
50bo2b6o3b2ob2o$46b4ob3obo2bo5bo$12bobo30bo3bo3bobo2bo3b2obo$2o10bobo
30b2o6b2obo5bo$2o12bo31bo4bo6b4o$10bo2bo32bobo3bo14b2o$13bo4b2o27bobo
3bo12bobo14bo$11b2obo2b3o28bo3b2o14bo14b3o$13b3o2bob2o52bo11bo$13b2o4b
o54b3o8b2o$19bo2bo8bo45bo8b2ob2o$18bo10b2ob2o42b2o9b4o$18bobo12bo14bo
37bo4b2o4b2o$18bobo8bo3bo52b2obo7b2o$30b3o16b2obo34b3obobo$51bobob2o
32b3obo$51b3ob2o34b3o$53b2o18bo17bo$72bo2bo$17b4o51bo3bo$11bobob8obobo
3b2o32b2o6bo3bo$10bob3o8b3obo2bo20b2o11b2o5b2o3bo12b2o$5bo3bobo3bo6bo
3bobobobo19bo19bo2bo13bo$4bobobob2o2bo2b4o2bo2b2obobobo15b3o38b3o$4bob
obo5bo8bo5bobobo15bo42bo$b2obob3o4b2o8b2o4b3obob2o36bo3b2o$bo2bo2b2o4b
2obo4bob2o4b2o2bo2bo35bobo3bo$3bob3o3b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o3b3obo36bobo3bo28b
o$4bo4bo4bobo4bobo4bo4bo37bo4bo27bobo$5b3o5bo3bo2bo3bo5b3o37b2o5b3o25b
2o$7bob2obo3b6o3bob2obo48bo$8bo7bo4bo7bo$7b2o2bobob2o4b2obobo2b2o$3b2o
3bob2o2b2obo2bob2o2b2obo3b2o$4bo2b2o8bo2bo8b2o2bo$4bobobo6bo6bo6bobobo
$5bo2b4obo3b4o3bob4o2bo$13b2o3b2o3b2o$2b2o2bo2b2ob2o10b2ob2o2bo2b2o$bo
2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$bobob2ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob2ob2obobo$2b2o3bo
2bob4ob4ob4obo2bo3b2o$5bo4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo$2b4obo3b16o3bob4o$bo4b5o16b5o
4bo$2b3o6bo2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo6b3o$4bobob3o3b2o2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$5b2obo20bo
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » April 16th, 2021, 7:19 pm

Just asking, can anyone search for a P3 strong dot sparker?
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » April 16th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 7:19 pm
Just asking, can anyone search for a P3 strong dot sparker?
Sadly, I believe it's all but confirmed by countless unsuccessful searches that those aren't actually possible. The closest I know of are caterer/jam and a few duoplet sparkers (the first row of jslife/o0003-spark.lif):

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x = 249, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
9$7b2obo40bo33bobobo28bobobo24bo3bo22bobobo21bobobo21bobobo$7bob2o$11b
2o38bo37bo32bo24bo3bo22bo25bo29bo$11bo$12bo38bo33bobobo28bobobo24bobo
bo22bobobo21bobobo25bo$11b2o$7b2obo40bo33bo36bo28bo26bo21bo3bo25bo$7b
ob2o$11b2o38bo33bobobo28bobobo28bo22bobobo21bobobo25bo$11bo$12bo$11b2o
$7b2obo$7bob2o11$23bo155bo23bo26bo$51bo99bo26bo2bo20bo2bo23bo2bo$22bo
bo26bo33bo35bo6b2o20bo2bo20bo8b2o13bo26bo$50b2obo31bo34bo2bo2bo3bo12b
2o10b2ob2o13bob2ob2ob2obo12bob2ob2ob3o13b2obob2ob2ob3o$21bo3bo27b2o29b
2obo25b2o14bo10bob4ob2ob2ob2obobobo12bo4b3o16bo4b3o3bo11bobob2o3b3o3b
o$50bo32bo3b2o21bob4ob2ob2ob4obo10bo14bobo2bobo12bo2bobo2b2o12b2obo5b
3o12bobobo3bo2bob2o$21bobobo24b2o30bobo24bo14b2o12bo3bo2bo2bo5b2o2bob
obo10b2o3bo4bo12bo2bobobo15b2o3bobobo2bobo$49b2o31bo2bo22bo3bo2bo2bo20b
2o6bo4b2obo5b2o10b2o4b2obo14b2o2bo3b3o10bo2b6o4bobo$21bo3bo23b3o31b2o
24b2o6bo33bobobob2o13b2o6bob2o19b3o2bo10bo7b3ob2o$152bo3bo22b2ob2o13b
2o3bobo2b2o11b7o3bo$178b2o18bobobobo21bobobo$176bo2bo2bo13bo3bo3b5o13b
2o3b2ob2o$176bo2b4o13b5ob2o4bo13b2o$176bo2b3o19bo3b3o$198b2obobobo$177b
o20bob2ob2o$176b2o2$174b3o2bobo$176bob4o$180b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » April 16th, 2021, 8:11 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 7:19 pm
Just asking, can anyone search for a P3 strong dot sparker?
Do you need it for something? It can be helpful to know exactly where the sparker needs to fit before starting a search.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » April 16th, 2021, 8:18 pm

p3 bouncer, if any.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » April 17th, 2021, 1:23 pm

I just started D4 searches and was going to wait until I found one that wasn't partial or until I was done for the day... but all we need is a suitable P3 double sparker via search, and we have a small p69 gun!

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x = 31, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$9b2o9b2o$8b2obo7bob2o$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$o2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo
$2bo25bo2$9bo11bo$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o5$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o$9bo11bo2$2bo25bo$o
2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$8b2obo7bob2o$9b2o9b2o$10bo9bo!
The same reaction also works with the two sides one column farther apart.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » April 17th, 2021, 3:58 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
April 17th, 2021, 1:23 pm
All we need is a suitable P3 double sparker via search, and we have a small p69 gun!

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x = 31, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$9b2o9b2o$8b2obo7bob2o$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$o2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo
$2bo25bo2$9bo11bo$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o5$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o$9bo11bo2$2bo25bo$o
2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$8b2obo7bob2o$9b2o9b2o$10bo9bo!
Wow, what an extremely incredibly amazing masterpieceof false hope...!

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x = 37, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
.B11.A9.A11.B$.A10.2A9.2A10.A$.A9.2A.A7.A.2A9.A$BA.A3.A.3A.A9.A.3A.A
3.A.AB$BA.A2.2A3.A13.A3.2A2.A.AB$.A3.A25.A3.A$.A33.A$.B10.A11.A10.B$
7.2A.2A13.2A.2A5$7.2A.2A13.2A.2A$.B10.A11.A10.B$.A33.A$.A3.A25.A3.A$B
A.A2.2A3.A13.A3.2A2.A.AB$BA.A3.A.3A.A9.A.3A.A3.A.AB$.A9.2A.A7.A.2A9.A
$.A10.2A9.2A10.A$.B11.A9.A11.B!

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x = 69, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
obo63bobo$b2o63b2o$bo65bo$17b2o31b2o$17bobo29bobo$17bo33bo11$29bo9bo$
19bo8b2o9b2o8bo$17bobo7b2obo7bob2o7bobo$18b2o3bob3obo9bob3obo3b2o$22b
2o3bo13bo3b2o$21bo25bo2$28bo11bo$23b2ob2o13b2ob2o5$23b2ob2o13b2ob2o$
28bo11bo2$21bo25bo$22b2o3bo13bo3b2o$18b2o3bob3obo9bob3obo3b2o$17bobo7b
2obo7bob2o7bobo$19bo8b2o9b2o8bo$29bo9bo11$17bo33bo$17bobo29bobo$17b2o
31b2o$bo65bo$b2o63b2o$obo63bobo!
It's time to look for a high clearance dual p23/p69 domino sparker. (or support the reaction with gliders or maybe *wss or find a different clever supporter)

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » April 17th, 2021, 5:08 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
April 17th, 2021, 1:23 pm
I just started D4 searches and was going to wait until I found one that wasn't partial or until I was done for the day... but all we need is a suitable P3 double sparker via search, and we have a small p69 gun!

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x = 31, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$9b2o9b2o$8b2obo7bob2o$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$o2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo
$2bo25bo2$9bo11bo$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o5$4b2ob2o13b2ob2o$9bo11bo2$2bo25bo$o
2b2o3bo13bo3b2o2bo$o3bob3obo9bob3obo3bo$8b2obo7bob2o$9b2o9b2o$10bo9bo!
The same reaction also works with the two sides one column farther apart.
If the following MWSS streams can each be replaced by a single glider stream, we would at least have a glider duplicator:

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x = 219, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
98b2o19b2o$98bobo17bobo$98bo21bo4$102bo13bo$101b2o13b2o$100bo2bo11bo2b
o$100bobo13bobo$101b2o13b2o5$70b3o73b3o$3b2o30b5o29b5o71b5o29b5o30b2o$
3ob2o28bo4bo29b3ob2o69b2ob3o29bo4bo28b2ob3o$5o34bo32b2o71b2o32bo34b5o$
b3o30bo3bo141bo3bo30b3o$36bo145bo5$101b2o13b2o$100bobo13bobo$100bo2bo
11bo2bo$101b2o13b2o$102bo13bo4$98bo21bo$98bobo17bobo$98b2o19b2o!
I didn't find such a replacement, but I only looked by hand, so a gencols search might be more successful.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » April 17th, 2021, 11:23 pm

I made an oscillator, but still no luck for a gun:

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x = 99, y = 128, rule = B3/S23
15bo67bo$15b3o63b3o$18bo7b3o41b3o7bo$17b2o11bo37bo11b2o$27bo2bobo33bob
o2bo$22bo53bo$21bobo4b4obo31bob4o4bobo$4b2o3bo11bo2bo4b3o2bo29bo2b3o4b
o2bo11bo3b2o$b2o2bo2bobo11b2o8bo33bo8b2o11bobo2bo2b2o$2bobo27bo2bo27bo
2bo27bobo$2bob2o2bo26bo27bo26bo2b2obo$2o6b2o24bo29bo24b2o6b2o$bobob2ob
2o25b3o23b3o25b2ob2obobo$bobo4b2o27bo23bo27b2o4bobo$2bobo3bo7b2o63b2o
7bo3bobo$4bobo10b2o61b2o10bobo$3bobo10bo65bo10bobo$3b2o89b2o$9bo21bo
14b2o3b2o14bo21bo$8bobo21b2o12bo5bo12b2o21bobo$7bo2bo20b2o11bobo5bobo
11b2o20bo2bo$8b2o34b2o7b2o34b2o3$4b2o34b2o15b2o34b2o$3bobo33bo2bo13bo
2bo33bobo$3bo35bobo15bobo35bo$2b2o36bo17bo36b2o$45b2o5b2o$21b2o21bobo
5bobo21b2o$20b2o23bo7bo23b2o$22bo17b3ob2obo3bob2ob3o17bo$44bobobobobob
o$29bo9bo5bo2bobo2bo5bo9bo$27b2o14bo2bobobobo2bo14b2o$28b2o10b2o2b2obo
bobob2o2b2o10b2o$40bo4bobo3bobo4bo$9b2o29bo4bobo3bobo4bo29b2o$10bo29bo
5bo5bo5bo29bo$10bobo73bobo$11b2o73b2o3$15b2o65b2o$14bo2bo63bo2bo$15bob
o63bobo$16bo21b2o19b2o21bo$38bobo17bobo$11bo11bo14bo21bo14bo11bo$11bob
o10b2o47b2o10bobo$11bo3bo7b2o49b2o7bo3bo$15b2o65b2o$12b2ob2o25bo13bo
25b2ob2o$15b2o24b2o13b2o24b2o$13bo3b2o21bo2bo11bo2bo21b2o3bo$15bo24bob
o13bobo24bo$16bo3bo20b2o13b2o20bo3bo$18b2obo55bob2o$21bo55bo$21b2o53b
2o9$21b2o53b2o$21bo55bo$18b2obo55bob2o$16bo3bo20b2o13b2o20bo3bo$15bo
24bobo13bobo24bo$13bo3b2o21bo2bo11bo2bo21b2o3bo$15b2o24b2o13b2o24b2o$
12b2ob2o25bo13bo25b2ob2o$15b2o65b2o$11bo3bo7b2o49b2o7bo3bo$11bobo10b2o
47b2o10bobo$11bo11bo14bo21bo14bo11bo$38bobo17bobo$16bo21b2o19b2o21bo$
15bobo63bobo$14bo2bo63bo2bo$15b2o65b2o3$11b2o73b2o$10bobo73bobo$10bo
29bo5bo5bo5bo29bo$9b2o29bo4bobo3bobo4bo29b2o$40bo4bobo3bobo4bo$28b2o
10b2o2b2obobobob2o2b2o10b2o$27b2o14bo2bobobobo2bo14b2o$29bo9bo5bo2bobo
2bo5bo9bo$44bobobobobobo$22bo17b3ob2obo3bob2ob3o17bo$20b2o23bo7bo23b2o
$21b2o21bobo5bobo21b2o$45b2o5b2o$2b2o36bo17bo36b2o$3bo35bobo15bobo35bo
$3bobo33bo2bo13bo2bo33bobo$4b2o34b2o15b2o34b2o3$8b2o34b2o7b2o34b2o$7bo
2bo20b2o11bobo5bobo11b2o20bo2bo$8bobo21b2o12bo5bo12b2o21bobo$9bo21bo
14b2o3b2o14bo21bo$3b2o89b2o$3bobo10bo65bo10bobo$4bobo10b2o61b2o10bobo$
2bobo3bo7b2o63b2o7bo3bobo$bobo4b2o27bo23bo27b2o4bobo$bobob2ob2o25b3o
23b3o25b2ob2obobo$2o6b2o24bo29bo24b2o6b2o$2bob2o2bo26bo27bo26bo2b2obo$
2bobo27bo2bo27bo2bo27bobo$b2o2bo2bobo11b2o8bo33bo8b2o11bobo2bo2b2o$4b
2o3bo11bo2bo4b3o2bo29bo2b3o4bo2bo11bo3b2o$21bobo4b4obo31bob4o4bobo$22b
o53bo$27bo2bobo33bobo2bo$17b2o11bo37bo11b2o$18bo7b3o41b3o7bo$15b3o63b
3o$15bo67bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » April 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

Here is the shortest possible (by diagonal length) p3 sparker fitting between the two glider streams in the p57 gun:

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x = 107, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
80b2o$79bobo$73b2o4bo$71bo2bo2b2ob4o$71b2obobobobo2bo$74bobobobo$74bob
ob2o$75bo2$88b2o$79b2o7bo$79b2o5bobo$86b2o2$80bo$79b2o$79bobo3$76b2o$
66bo10bo$66bobo5b3o$66b2o6bo3$3bo12b2o6bo77b2o$b3o5b2o5bobo5b3o75bo$o
3b2o2bo2bo7bo2b2o3bo76bo$3o3bo2b2o6b2o2bo3b3o56b2o5b3o6b5o$4b2o7bo2bo
5b2o61bo8bo4bo$2obob3ob5o2b3ob3obob2o57bobo3bo2bo5b3o$bobobo16bobobo
59b2o3bo3b2o6bo$o2bo2bo3b8o3bo2bo2bo64bo4bo2b4o$obo2bo2bo10bo2bo2b2o
64bobo3bo2bo3b2o$b2ob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo27bo38bo4bo3b3o2bo$4bo2bobo3b
2o3bobo2bobo25b2o37bo4b2o6bob2o$b2o3b4o8b4o3b2o25b2o36bo3bo8bo$bob3o3b
4o2b4o3b3o65bo3bo7b2o$3bo2b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o2bo66b3o$bo2b4o5b2o5b4o31bo3b
2obobo$b4o18b4o27bobobo2b2ob3o27b2o$8b2ob6ob2o7bo25bo2b2obo7bo26bo$3b
5o12b5o2bo25bobo3bob5obo13b2o12b3o$2bo2bob3o2b4o2b3obo2bob2o21b2obobob
2obobobobo15b2o13bo$2bob3o2b2o6b2o2b3obo25bobo4bo5bo16bo$b2obobob2o8b
2obobobo24bo2bob3o2b5o$o2b2obobob8obobob2o25b3o4b2o7bo$2o10b4o32b2o2bo
b4ob2ob2obo$38bo8bo2b3obo7b2obo$37bo9bobo7b3o2b2o$37b3o6b2ob2o2bo3bo2b
obo2bo$50bo2b6o3b2o2b2o$46b4ob3obo2bo6bo$12bobo30bo3bo3bobo2bo3b2obo$
2o10bobo30b2o6b2obo5bo$2o12bo31bo4bo6b4o$10bo2bo32bobo3bo14b2o$13bo4b
2o27bobo3bo12bobo14bo$11b2obo2b3o28bo3b2o14bo14b3o$13b3o2bob2o52bo11bo
$13b2o4bo54b3o8b2o$19bo2bo8bo45bo8b2ob2o$18bo10b2ob2o42b2o9b4o$18bobo
12bo14bo37bo4b2o4b2o$18bobo8bo3bo52b2obo7b2o$30b3o16b2obo34b3obobo$51b
obob2o32b3obo$51b3ob2o34b3o$53b2o18bo17bo$72bo2bo$17b4o51bo3bo$11bobob
8obobo3b2o32b2o6bo3bo$10bob3o8b3obo2bo20b2o11b2o5b2o3bo12b2o$5bo3bobo
3bo6bo3bobobobo19bo19bo2bo13bo$4bobobob2o2bo2b4o2bo2b2obobobo15b3o38b
3o$4bobobo5bo8bo5bobobo15bo42bo$b2obob3o4b2o8b2o4b3obob2o36bo3b2o$bo2b
o2b2o4b2obo4bob2o4b2o2bo2bo35bobo3bo$3bob3o3b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o3b3obo36bob
o3bo28bo$4bo4bo4bobo4bobo4bo4bo37bo4bo27bobo$5b3o5bo3bo2bo3bo5b3o37b2o
5b3o25b2o$7bob2obo3b6o3bob2obo48bo$8bo7bo4bo7bo$7b2o2bobob2o4b2obobo2b
2o$3b2o3bob2o2b2obo2bob2o2b2obo3b2o$4bo2b2o8bo2bo8b2o2bo$4bobobo6bo6bo
6bobobo$5bo2b4obo3b4o3bob4o2bo$13b2o3b2o3b2o$2b2o2bo2b2ob2o10b2ob2o2bo
2b2o$bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$bobob2ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob2ob2obobo$
2b2o3bo2bob4ob4ob4obo2bo3b2o$5bo4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo$2b4obo3b16o3bob4o$bo4b
5o16b5o4bo$2b3o6bo2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo6b3o$4bobob3o3b2o2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$5b
2obo20bob2o!
It may help in shrinking the gun, although it's only slightly shorter than the variant posted by JP21 here.

Edit: I was able to shrink the p57 gun slightly by shifting the spark-suppressing glider stream:

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x = 101, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
75b2o$74bobo$68b2o4bo$66bo2bo2b2ob4o$66b2obobobobo2bo$69bobobobo$69bob
ob2o$70bo2$83b2o$74b2o7bo$74b2o5bobo$81b2o$74bo$73b2o$73bobo3$3bo12b2o
6bo$b3o5b2o5bobo5b3o44b2o$o3b2o2bo2bo7bo2b2o3bo44bo$3o3bo2b2o6b2o2bo3b
3o32bo8b3o$4b2o7bo2bo5b2o36bobo5bo$2obob3ob5o2b3ob3obob2o32b2o3b2o2bo$
bobobo16bobobo37bobob2o26b2o$o2bo2bo3b8o3bo2bo2bo35bo2bobo27bo$obo2bo
2bo10bo2bo2b2o35bo3bo3bo27bo$b2ob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo37b3ob2ob3o5b2o5b
3o6b5o$4bo2bobo3b2o3bobo2bobo39bobobo3bo5bo8bo4bo$b2o3b4o8b4o3b2o32b2o
10b2o2bo3bobo3bo2bo5b3o$bob3o3b4o2b4o3b3o34bobob6o3bob2o4b2o3bo3b2o6bo
$3bo2b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o2bo36bobo8bo13bo4bo2b4o$bo2b4o5b2o5b4o36b2o2b2o3b
2obo12bobo3bo2bo3b2o$b4o18b4o29b2obobo2b2obob2obob2o10bo4bo3b3o2bo$8b
2ob6ob2o7bo28bob2ob3o4bo3bobo2bo6bo4b2o6bob2o$3b5o12b5o2bo19bo5b2obob
2obo2b2ob2o5bob2o6bo3bo8bo$2bo2bob3o2b4o2b3obo2bob2o16b2o5bo2bo4b2o4b
2o2b2o2bo9bo3bo7b2o$2bob3o2b2o6b2o2b3obo20b2o3bobo4bo2bo2b2o4b2o2bo10b
3o$b2obobob2o8b2obobobo24bo2b2o2b3ob3o2b2obo2b2o$o2b2obobob8obobob2o
25b3o5b2o2b2o3bo3bo16b2o$2o10b4o32b2o2bob6o4bob2obobo16bo$47bo2b3obo7b
2obob2obo4b2o12b3o$47bobo7b3o2b2o12b2o13bo$46b2ob2o2bo3bo2bobo5bo6bo$
13bo36bo2b6o3b2ob2o$6b2o5bo32b4ob3obo2bo6bo$5bobo5bo31bo3bo3bobo2bo3b
2obo$2o2b2obo37b2o6b2obo5bo$2o3b5ob3o32bo4bo6b4o$6bo2bob3o18bo13bobo3b
o$7b3o2b2o3b3o11bo15bobo3bo29bo$11b2o5bob2o12b2o12bo3b2o29b3o$11b2obo
5b2o15bo23b3o10bo11bo$13b3o3b2o2b3o13bo21b3o10b3o8b2o$19b3obo2bo3bo9bo
3b2o14bo3b2o11bo15bo$19b3ob5o3bo2b2o7b3o2b2o10b3o2bo10b2o14bo3bo$25bob
2o13bobo4b2o8bo2b4o15b2o8bo3b2o$19bo5bobo5bo10bob2obo9b3obo14b2ob3o8bo
4bo$19bo5b2o5bobo2bo5bo3b2o12bo16b2o3b2o7b2o$19bo12bobo2bobo40bobo2bo$
80b3o2b2o$80bobob2o$64b2o18bo$17b4o42bo2bo7bo$11bobob8obobo3b2o31bo2bo
6bo$10bob3o8b3obo2bo20b2o10bobo7b3o13b2o9bo$5bo3bobo3bo6bo3bobobobo19b
o36bo8bobo$4bobobob2o2bo2b4o2bo2b2obobobo15b3o38b3o6b2o$4bobobo5bo8bo
5bobobo15bo42bo$b2obob3o4b2o8b2o4b3obob2o36bo3b2o$bo2bo2b2o4b2obo4bob
2o4b2o2bo2bo35bobo3bo$3bob3o3b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o3b3obo36bobo3bo$4bo4bo4bob
o4bobo4bo4bo37bo4bo$5b3o5bo3bo2bo3bo5b3o37b2o5b3o$7bob2obo3b6o3bob2obo
48bo$8bo7bo4bo7bo$7b2o2bobob2o4b2obobo2b2o$3b2o3bob2o2b2obo2bob2o2b2ob
o3b2o$4bo2b2o8bo2bo8b2o2bo$4bobobo6bo6bo6bobobo$5bo2b4obo3b4o3bob4o2bo
$13b2o3b2o3b2o$2b2o2bo2b2ob2o10b2ob2o2bo2b2o$bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo3bo2bo3b
o2bo$bobob2ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob2ob2obobo$2b2o3bo2bob4ob4ob4obo2bo3b2o$5b
o4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo$2b4obo3b16o3bob4o$bo4b5o16b5o4bo$2b3o6bo2b2o2b2o2b2o
2bo6b3o$4bobob3o3b2o2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$5b2obo20bob2o!
I wasn't able to find any other working stream placements. A few rows can probably be removed by finding a shorter domino sparker.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by calcyman » May 11th, 2021, 4:08 pm

The p59 gun can be adapted to emit MWSSes without requiring any more engines:

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x = 293, y = 252, rule = B3/S23
89b2o57b3o$88bobo56bo2bo$82b2o4bo61bo$80bo2bo2b2ob4o53bo3bo$80b2obobob
obo2bo57bo$83bobobobo57bobo$83bobob2o$84bo2$97b2o$88b2o7bo$88b2o5bobo$
69bo25b2o$69b3o$72bo$71b2o2$79bo$63b2o12b2o12b3o$63bo14b2o5b2o4bo$60b
2obo22bo5bo$60bo2b3o4b2o11b3o$61b2o3bo3b2o11bo$63b4o$63bo15b2o$64b3o
12bobo$67bo13bo$62b5o14b2o$62bo$64bo84bo$63b2o83b3o$79bo68bob2o$77bobo
27bo41b3o$78b2o26b2o41b3o$35b2o32b2o35bobo40b2o$35bobo30bobo$37bo4b2o
18b2o4bo$33b4ob2o2bo2bo14bo2bo2b2ob4o$33bo2bo3bobob2o14b2obobobobo2bo$
36bobobobo20bobobobo$37b2obobo20bobob2o$41bo22bo2$27b2o48b2o$28bo8bo
30b2o7bo$28bobo5b2o37bobo$29b2o44b2o15bobo$43bo24b2o23b2o26b2o142b2o$
44bo21bob2o23bo27bobo10b2o128bobo$42b3o22b2o52bo12bo123b2o4bo$67bo68bo
119bo2bo2b2ob4o$116b2o14b5o119b2obobobobo2bo$117bo13bo127bobobobo$39b
2o24b2o50bobo12b3o124bobob2o$39bo26bo51b2o15bo124bo$29bo10b3o20b3o66b
4o$29b2o11bo20bo63b2o3bo3b2o135b2o$28bobo21bobo72b2o4b3o2bo125b2o7bo$
52b2o81bob2o125b2o5bobo$53bo81bo12b3o120b2o$108bo25b2o12bo2bo$81b2o26b
o7b2o29bo114b3o$57bo22b2o25b3o8b2o28bo3bo110bo$58b2o22bo34bo8b2o20bo
115bo$57b2o67bo22bobo$127b3o$129bo131b2o$262bo$4b2o245bo7b3o$5bo68b2o
48b2o16bo106b2o8bo$3bo10b2o58b2o48b2o14b3o107b2o$3b5o5bobo6b2o14bo100b
o$8bo6bo6bo2bo11bo101b2o$5b2obo2bo8bobob2o11b3o100bo147b2o$4bo15b2obo
63bo3b3o12b3o3bo23bo3b3o145bo$4b2o3bo3b2o8bo63bo2bo3bo10bo3bo2bo9bo13b
o2bo3bo134bo11bo$2b2o7bo11b3o34b2o25bob2o4bo8bo4b2obo10bo12bob2o4bo
125b2o6b2o6b5o$bo2bob2ob3o14bo34bo10bo19bo3bo6bo3bo14b3o16bo3bo125bo7b
2o4bo$b2obo20b2o34bobo6b2o15bo3bobo2bo6bo2bobo3bo23bo3bobo2bo11b2o112b
obo6b3o2b4o$4bo57b2o23b2o3bo3bo6bo3bo3b2o12bo10b2o3bo3bo12bo113b2o6b3o
3bo2bo$4b2o25bo63bo8bo39bo8b2obo122b2o2b7o$31b2o17bo7b2o30bo3bo10bo3bo
29bo3bo9b2ob2o124b2o2bo3b2o$24bob6obo16b3o5b2o14b3o14b3o12b3o14b3o14b
3o140b2o2bobo2bo$12b2o8b2o2b2obo2b3o18bo21bo48bo28b2ob2o77bo51bobob2o$
13bo9bo4bo4b2o17b2o21bo48bo29bobo78bobo51bo$10b3o11b2o5b2ob3o38bo48bo
29bobo78b2o51b2o$10bo15bo3bo4bobo37bo48bo30bo$26bobobo6bo19b3o14b3o14b
3o12b3o14b3o14b2o$27b3o7b2o17bo3bo29bo3bo10bo3bo30b2o138b2o$28bo26bo
39bo8bo163b2o10bo$24bo29bo3bo3b2o12bo10b2o3bo3bo6bo3bo3b2o23b2o129bobo
11b3o$23bobob2o25bo2bobo3bo23bo3bobo2bo6bo2bobo3bo15b2o6bobo130bo13bo$
23bobobobo24bo3bo14b3o16bo3bo6bo3bo19bo10bo73bo$20b2obobobobo2bo22bo4b
2obo10bo12bob2o4bo8bo4b2obo25b2o72b3o$20bo2bo2b2ob4o23bo3bo2bo9bo13bo
2bo3bo10bo3bo2bo102bo$22b2o4bo28b3o3bo23bo3b3o12b3o3bo101b2o$28bobo28b
o40b2o$29b2o28b2o39bobo$60bo39bo105b2o12bobo$57b3o14b2o48b2o80bo13b2o$
40bo16bo16b2o48b2o77b2obo14bo$39bo163bo2b3o4b2o$39b3o162b2o3bo3b2o$
206b4o$206bo15b2o29b2o$141b2o64b3o12bobo29b2o$82bo34bo22b2o68bo13bo28b
o$58b3o19b2o36b2o22bo62b5o14b2o$60bo20b2o34b2o86bo31b2o$59bo147bo30bo$
206b2o28bo$96b2o17b2o105bo13b5o14b2o$96bobo15b2o107bo17bo13bo$98bo4b2o
11bo104b3o14b3o12bobo$94b4ob2o2bo2bo130bo15b2o$26bo67bo2bobobobob2o
130b4o$24b2o71bobobobo131b2o3bo3b2o$9bo15b2o29bo41b2obobo130bo2b3o4b2o
$9b3o44b3o43bo131b2obo12b3o$12bo46bo160b2o15bo12bo$11b2o45b2o28b2o65b
3o61bobo15b2o12bo$44bo21bo22bo7b2o34bo21bo57b2o4bo$44b2o20bobo20bobo5b
2o32bobo22bo54bo2bo2b2ob4o$3b2o8b3o27bobo4b2o14b2o22b2o40b2o77b2obobob
o4bo21b2o$3bo8bo3bo33bo163bobo3bo25bo$2obo7bo5bo29b2obo163bo5bo22b3o$o
2b3o4bo3bo3bo8b2o18bo2b3o4b2o70b3o83b2o19bo6bo$b2o3bo3bo2bobo12bo19b2o
3bo3b2o48bo21bo88bobo16b2o$3b4o3bo3bo11bo23b4o51bobo22bo89bo7b2o6b2o$
3bo7bo8bo5b5o14b2o3bo15b2o38b2o108bo2b2o7bo$4b3o5bo3bob2obo9bo13bo5b3o
12bobo23b2o6b2o124bobo$7bo5b3o5bo6b3o12bobo8bo13bo24b2o5bo113bo3bo7b2o
$2b5o14b2o4bo15b2o4b5o14b2o22bo8b3o109bo4bo47bo$2bo24b4o18bo53bo109b3o
49b2o$4bo20b2o3bo3b2o15bo119bo87bo5bobo$3b2o19bo2b3o4b2o4b2o8b2o11bobo
104b2o85b3o$24b2obo12bobo21b2o80bobo21bobo83bo$27bo12bo23bo13bo68b2o
107b2o$27b2o47b3o68bo68b2o$75bo141bo$75b2o68bo68b3o47b2o$35b2o107b2o
68bo13bo23bo12bo$36bo83bobo21bobo80b2o21bobo12bob2o$33b3o85b2o104bobo
11b2o8b2o4b2o4b3o2bo19b2o$25bobo5bo87bo119bo15b2o3bo3b2o20bo$26b2o49b
3o109bo53bo18b4o24bo$26bo47bo4bo109b3o8bo22b2o14b5o4b2o15bo4b2o14b5o$
65b2o7bo3bo113bo5b2o24bo13bo8bobo12b3o6bo5b3o5bo$64bobo124b2o6b2o23bob
o12b3o5bo13bo9bob2obo3bo5b3o$64bo7b2o2bo108b2o38b2o15bo3b2o14b5o5bo8bo
7bo$55b2o6b2o7bo89bo22bobo51b4o23bo11bo3bo3b4o$54b2o16bobo88bo21bo48b
2o3bo3b2o19bo12bobo2bo3bo3b2o$49bo6bo19b2o83b3o70b2o4b3o2bo18b2o8bo3bo
3bo4b3o2bo$47b3o22bo5bo163bob2o29bo5bo7bob2o$46bo25bo3bobo163bo33bo3bo
8bo$46b2o21bo4bobobob2o77b2o40b2o22b2o14b2o4bobo27b3o8b2o$69b4ob2o2bo
2bo54bo22bobo32b2o5bobo20bobo20b2o$73bo4b2o57bo21bo34b2o7bo22bo21bo$
41bo12b2o15bobo61b3o65b2o28b2o45b2o$42bo12bo15b2o160bo46bo$40b3o12bob
2o131bo43b3o44b3o$47b2o4b3o2bo130bobob2o41bo29b2o15bo$47b2o3bo3b2o131b
obobobo71b2o$52b4o130b2obobobobo2bo67bo$38b2o15bo130bo2bo2b2ob4o$37bob
o12b3o14b3o104bo11b2o4bo$37bo13bo17bo107b2o15bobo$36b2o14b5o13bo36b2o
67b2o17b2o$56bo28b2o19bobo$54bo30bo14b2o4bo126bo$54b2o31bo10bo2bo2b2ob
4o63b2o34b2o20bo$67b2o14b5o10b2obobobobo2bo39bo22b2o36b2o19b3o$39bo28b
o13bo18bobobobo43b2o22bo34bo$37b2o29bobo12b3o15bobob2o43b2o$38b2o29b2o
15bo15bo$83b4o$78b2o3bo3b2o26b2o134b3o$78b2o4b3o2bo16b2o7bo137bo$71bo
14bob2o23bobo51b2o48b2o16bo16bo$71b2o13bo26b2o52b2o48b2o14b3o$70bobo
12b2o19b2o84bo39bo$104bob2o82bobo39b2o28b2o$105b2o84b2o40bo28bobo$77b
2o4bo21bo74bo3b3o12b3o3bo23bo3b3o28bo4b2o$77bo5b3o94bo2bo3bo10bo3bo2bo
13bo9bo2bo3bo23b4ob2o2bo2bo$78b3o5bo66b2o25bob2o4bo8bo4b2obo12bo10bob
2o4bo22bo2bobobobob2o$80bo4b2o16b2o49bo10bo19bo3bo6bo3bo16b3o14bo3bo
24bobobobo$9bo13bo80bo49bobo6b2o15bo3bobo2bo6bo2bobo3bo23bo3bobo2bo25b
2obobo$9b3o11bobo75b3o51b2o23b2o3bo3bo6bo3bo3b2o10bo12b2o3bo3bo29bo$
12bo10b2o52b2o22bo86bo8bo39bo26bo$11b2o64bo12bobo50bo7b2o30bo3bo10bo3b
o29bo3bo17b2o7b3o$74b2obo12b2o51b3o5b2o14b3o14b3o12b3o14b3o14b3o19bo6b
obobo$74bo2b3o4b2o5bo54bo21bo48bo37bobo4bo3bo15bo$3b2o51b2o17b2o3bo3b
2o59b2o21bo48bo38b3ob2o5b2o11b3o$3bo51bobo19b4o38b2o47bo48bo21b2o17b2o
4bo4bo9bo$2obobo51bo19bo15b2o23b2o48bo48bo21bo18b3o2bob2o2b2o8b2o$o2bo
bo2b2o68b3o12bobo24bo29b3o14b3o14b3o12b3o14b3o14b2o5b3o16bob6obo$b2o3b
o2b2o70bo13bo53bo3bo29bo3bo10bo3bo30b2o7bo17b2o$3b7o2b2o62b5o14b2o51bo
39bo8bo63bo25b2o$3bo2bo3b3o6b2o55bo55bo14bo3bo3b2o12bo10b2o3bo3bo6bo3b
o3b2o23b2o57bo$4b4o2b3o6bobo56bo53b3o12bo2bobo3bo23bo3bobo2bo6bo2bobo
3bo15b2o6bobo34b2o20bob2o$7bo4b2o7bo55b2o56bo11bo3bo14b3o16bo3bo6bo3bo
19bo10bo34bo14b3ob2obo2bo$2b5o6b2o6b2o111bo13bo4b2obo10bo12bob2o4bo8bo
4b2obo25b2o34b3o11bo7b2o$2bo11bo79bo39bo3bo10bo3bo2bo9bo13bo2bo3bo10bo
3bo2bo63bo8b2o3bo3b2o$4bo90bo43bo10b3o3bo23bo3b3o12b3o3bo63bob2o15bo$
3b2o88b3o38bo5bo11bo100b3o11b2obobo8bo2bob2o$133bo3bo3bo10b2o101bo11bo
2bo6bo6bo$133bo2bobo2bo11bo100bo14b2o6bobo5b5o$41b2o90bo3bo3bo8b3o14b
2o48b2o58b2o10bo$33bo8b2o90bo5bo3b2o4bo16b2o48b2o68bo$31b3o7bo93bo3bo
4bobo140b2o$30bo105b3o7bo$30b2o114b2o2$133bo100b2o$28bo103bobob2o37bo
34bo22b2o$29bo102bobobobo12b3o19b2o36b2o22bo$27b3o99b2obobobobo2bo11bo
20b2o34b2o$108bo20bo2bo2b2ob4o10bo$20b2o87b2o20b2o4bo101bo$19bobo5b2o
79b2o27bobo99b2o$19bo7b2o109b2o98bobo21bobo$18b2o209bo20bo11b2o$227b3o
20b3o10bo$32bo193bo26bo$28b2obobo192b2o24b2o$27bobobobo$24bo2bobobobob
2o$24b4ob2o2bo2bo124b2o62bo$28bo4b2o96bo28bobo61b2o22b3o$26bobo100b3o
5bo22bo62b2obo21bo$26b2o100bo8b2o20b2o62b2o24bo$128b2o6bobo77b2o44b2o$
124bo90bobo37b2o5bobo$122bobo90bo7b2o30bo8bo$123b2o89b2o48b2o2$228bo
22bo$224b2obobo20bobob2o$118b2o103bobobobo20bobobobo$117bobo5b2o93bo2b
obobobob2o14b2obobo3bo2bo$117bo7b2o93b4ob2o2bo2bo14bo2bo2b2ob4o$116b2o
106bo4b2o18b2o4bo$222bobo30bobo$130bo91b2o32b2o$126b2obobo$125bobobobo
$122bo2bobobobob2o$122b4ob2o2bo2bo$126bo4b2o$124bobo$124b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » May 13th, 2021, 3:14 pm

p29 domino sparker needed for p29 gun (the unix is only used to delete a block)

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x = 28, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$14bo2bo$17bo$17bo$11bo3bobo$10bo3bobo$10bo4bo$11b4o2$b2o$2o$2bo$
13bo$9b2obo2b2o$8bobobo5bo$6bobo9bo2bo$6bo2bo9bobo$9bo5bobobo$11b2o2bo
b2o$14bo$25bo$26b2o$25b2o2$13b4o$12bo4bo$11bobo3bo$10bobo3bo$10bo$10bo
$10bo2bo$11b2o!
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100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 13th, 2021, 3:27 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 3:14 pm
(the unix is only used to delete a block)

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x = 28, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
7$8b2o$8b2o4$13bo$9b2obo2b2o$8bobobo5bo$6bobo9bo2bo$6bo2bo9bobo$9bo5b
obobo$11b2o2bob2o$14bo4$18b2o$18b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » May 13th, 2021, 3:51 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 3:14 pm
p29 domino sparker needed for p29 gun...
This is not at all my area of expertise, but wouldn't you need a horribly unlikely domino sparker, to sneak in behind the outgoing glider fast enough? It seems like both cells have to turn on simultaneously, so the only predecessors I was able come up with offhand were sparks of unlikely largitude, like this:

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x = 40, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
2A$A.A$A3$14.2A$14.2A$8.D$7.2D$7.D.D$10.A9.A$10.A4.2A.2A9.A$8.4A2.A.A
.2A.3A4.2A$10.2A2.A5.5A3.A$10.2A3.5A5.A2.A$8.4A4.3A.2A.A.A2.2A$10.A9.
2A.2A4.A$10.A8.A$30.A.A$31.2A$31.A$24.2A$24.2A3$39.A$37.A.A$38.2A!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by EvinZL » May 13th, 2021, 4:48 pm

EDIT by dvgrn: p1944 oscillator/gun, consisting of four cycles of the new p486 converted into a block factory, paired with 27 cycles of a known p72 consumer of blocks, with output gliders fed into a quadri-Snark.

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x = 74, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
15b2o28b2o$15b2o28b2o17$5bo50bo$3b3o50b3o$2bo3b2o46b2o3bo$bob2o3bo44bo
3b2obo$bobob3o45b2o3bobo$2obo2bo28bobo15b3o2bob2o$3bo31bo2bo15bobobo$
3bobo32bo15bobobo$2b2ob2o19b2o9b2o16b2ob2o$25bo2bo7b3o$25b3o6b3o$23b3o
7bo2bo$2b2ob2o16b2o9b2o19b2ob2o$3bobobo15bo32bobo$3bobobo15bo2bo31bo$
2obo2b3o15bobo28bo2bob2o$bobo3b2o45b3obobo$bob2o3bo44bo3b2obo$2bo3b2o
46b2o3bo$3b3o50b3o$5bo50bo13$34b2o$34bo29bo$29b2o5bo19b4o4b2o$29bo5b2o
18bo6bo3bo$15b2o9b2obo25b3o4b2ob2o$15b2o9bo2bob2o2b2o25b2obo$28b2obo3b
2o14b2o12bo$31bo19b2o12bo$31b2o30b2o$24b2o11bo26bo$23bobo10bobo$23bo
13bo10b2o18bo$20b2obo20b2o4b4o10b2o2b2ob3o$21bobob2o17b2o2b2ob3o10b2o
4b4o$21bobob2o21bo19b2o$20b2obo7b2o$20bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$21b2o3bo4b2o8bo
bo$23b2o18bo$23bo19b2o$25bo$24b2o4$43bo$44bo$42b3o2$45b2o$45bo$46b3o$
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 14th, 2021, 12:01 am

>:(

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x = 97, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A28.2A$14.B2AB26.B2AB$14.3B28.3B$14.2B30.2B$13.4B28.4B$13.4B28.4B
$13.4B.B24.B.4B$12.8B22.8B$11.9B22.9B$10.12B18.12B$10.13B16.13B$10.
14B14.14B$10.15B12.15B$10.16B10.16B$10.16B10.16B$10.16B10.16B$11.17B
6.17B$12.17B4.17B$5.A5.18B4.18B5.A$3.3A4.19B4.19B4.3A$2.A3.2A3.19B2.
19B3.2A3.A$.A.2A.B.A3.38B3.A.B.2A.A$.A.A.3A45B2A2B.A.A$2A.A.BA2B2.24B
ABA13B2.3AB.A.2A$3.A.3B3.19B2.3BA2BA12B3.ABA.A$3.A.A2B4.26BA11B4.ABA.
A$2.2A.2A7.12B2A9B2A9B7.2A.2A$17.2B2.4BA2BA7B3A2B2.2B$22.3B3A6B3A3B$
17.2B2.2B3A7BA2BA4B2.2B$2.2A.2A7.9B2A9B2A12B7.2A.2A$3.A.ABA4.11BA26B
4.2BA.A$3.A.ABA3.12BA2BA3B2.19B3.3B.A$2A.A.B3A2.13BABA24B2.2BAB.A.2A$
.A.A.2B2A45B3A.A.A$.A.2A.B.A3.38B3.A.B.2A.A$2.A3.2A3.19B2.19B3.2A3.A$
3.3A4.19B4.19B4.3A$5.A5.18B4.18B5.A$12.17B4.17B$11.17B6.17B$10.16B10.
16B$10.16B10.16B$10.16B10.16B$10.15B12.15B$10.14B14.14B$10.13B16.13B$
10.12B18.12B.2A$11.9B22.10BA.AB$12.8B22.8B.B2A2B24.2A$13.4B.B24.B.9B.
B2A21.B2AB$13.4B28.6B4.BA.A21.3B$13.4B28.6B7.A22.2B$14.2B28.8B6.2A20.
4B$14.3B26.4B.4B28.4B$14.B2AB24.4B2.4B.B24.B.4B$15.2A24.4B2.8B22.8B$
40.4B2.9B22.9B$39.4B2.12B18.12B$38.4B3.13B16.13B$37.4B4.14B14.14B$36.
4B5.15B12.15B$35.4B6.16B10.16B$34.4B7.16B10.16B$33.4B8.16B10.16B$32.
4B10.17B6.17B$31.4B12.17B4.17B$30.4B6.A5.18B4.18B5.A$29.4B5.3A4.19B4.
19B4.3A$28.4B5.A3.2A3.19B2.19B3.2A3.A$27.4B5.A.2A.B.A3.38B3.A.B.2A.A$
26.4B6.A.A.2B2A45B3A.A.A$25.4B6.2A.A.B3A2.26BA13B2.2BAB.A.2A$24.4B10.
A.ABA3.19B2.3B2AB2A11B3.3B.A$23.4B11.A.ABA4.24BA2B2A9B4.2BA.A$22.4B
11.2A.2A7.13BA10BA9B7.2A.2A$21.A3B27.2B2.6BA13B2.2B$20.A3B33.18B$20.
3A29.2B2.13BA6B2.2B$37.2A.2A7.9BA10BA13B7.2A.2A$38.A.A2B4.9B2A2BA24B
4.ABA.A$38.A.3B3.11B2AB2A3B2.19B3.ABA.A$35.2A.A.BA2B2.13BA26B2.3AB.A.
2A$36.A.A.3A45B2A2B.A.A$36.A.2A.B.A3.38B3.A.B.2A.A$37.A3.2A3.19B2.19B
3.2A3.A$38.3A4.19B4.19B4.3A$40.A5.18B4.18B5.A$47.17B4.17B$46.17B6.17B
$45.16B10.16B$45.16B10.16B$45.16B10.16B$45.15B12.15B$45.14B14.14B$45.
13B16.13B$45.12B18.12B$46.9B22.9B$47.8B22.8B$48.4B.B24.B.4B$48.4B28.
4B$48.4B28.4B$49.2B30.2B$49.3B28.3B$49.B2AB26.B2AB$50.2A28.2A!
EDIT by dvgrn: almost-working p486 gun made with two interacting p486 block factories Edit 4: And a ship and eater

EDIT by dvgrn again: all these edits are supposed to be a strong obvious hint that people should just add a few words to their posts -- I hate to spoil the conversational suspense or whatever it is that's making people post patterns with absolutely zero labels, but a few words will make patterns an awful lot easier to find if we happen to be looking for them later in a thread with hundreds of posts. Am I not saying "please" politely enough? Edit 4: I didn't see this until praosylen quoted me :(

EDIT by dvgrn, hopefully in a pleasing color -- at least it starts with "p":
Please can everyone please get in the habit of labeling your RLEs? Please? Just a few actual specific real regular words?
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » May 14th, 2021, 3:34 pm

wwei47 wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 12:01 am
>:(

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rle
Completed two-engine p486 gun:

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x = 111, y = 115, rule = LifeHistory
29.2A28.2A$28.B2AB26.B2AB$28.3B28.3B$28.2B30.2B$27.4B28.4B$27.4B28.4B
$27.4B.B24.B.4B$26.8B22.8B$25.9B22.9B$24.12B18.12B$24.13B16.13B$24.14B
14.14B$24.15B12.15B$24.16B10.16B$24.16B10.16B$24.16B10.16B$25.17B6.17B
$26.17B4.17B$19.A5.7BA10B4.18B5.A$17.3A4.6BABA10B4.19B4.3A$16.A3.2A3.
6B2A11B2.19B3.2A3.A$15.A.2A.B.A3.38B3.A.A.2A.A$15.A.A.3BA45BABA.A.A$14.
2A.A.ABAB2.40B2.4B.A.2A$17.A.2BA3.19B2.19B3.BAB.A$17.A.2AB4.23BA14B4.
2BA.A$16.2A.2A7.20BABA11B7.2A.2A$31.2B2.13BABA4B2.2B$36.4BA8BA4B$31.2B
2.4BABA13B2.2B$16.2A.2A7.11BABA20B7.2A.2A$17.A.A2B4.14BA23B4.B2A.A$17.
A.BAB3.19B2.19B3.A2B.A$14.2A.A.4B2.40B2.BABA.A.2A$15.A.A.ABA45BA3B.A.
A$15.A.2A.A.A3.38B3.A.B.2A.A$16.A3.2A3.19B2.11B2A6B3.2A3.A$17.3A4.19B
4.10BABA6B4.3A$19.A5.18B4.10BA7B5.A$26.17B4.17B$25.17B6.17B$24.16B10.
16B$24.16B10.16B$24.16B10.16B$24.15B12.15B$24.14B14.14B6.2A3.2A$24.13B
16.13B6.A.A.A.A$24.12B18.12B7.BA.AB$25.9B22.10B3.A.4B.4B.A$26.8B22.10B
.A2BABA2B.2BABA2BA10.2A$27.4B.B24.B.8BA3B2A2B.2B2A3BAB8.B2AB$27.4B28.
7B.A2BABA2B.2BABA2BA10.3B$27.4B28.6B4.A.4B.4B.A13.2B$28.2B28.8B7.BA.A
B16.4B$28.3B26.4B.4B6.A.A.A.A15.4B$28.B2AB24.4B2.4B.B4.2A3.2A13.B.4B$
29.2A24.4B2.8B22.8B$54.4B2.9B22.9B$53.4B2.12B18.12B$52.4B3.13B16.13B$
51.4B4.14B14.14B$50.4B5.15B12.15B$49.4B6.16B10.16B$48.4B7.16B10.16B$47.
4B8.16B10.16B$46.A3B10.17B6.17B$45.BABA12.17B4.17B$44.2B2A6.A5.18B4.18B
5.A$43.4B5.3A4.7BABA9B4.19B4.3A$42.4B5.A3.2A3.7B2A10B2.19B3.2A3.A$41.
4B5.A.2A.A.A3.6BA31B3.A.B.2A.A$40.4B6.A.A.ABA45BA3B.A.A$39.4B6.2A.A.4B
2.40B2.BABA.A.2A$38.4B10.A.BAB3.19B2.19B3.A2B.A$37.4B11.A.A2B4.23BA14B
4.B2A.A$36.4B11.2A.2A7.20BABA11B7.2A.2A$35.4B27.2B2.13BABA4B2.2B$34.4B
33.4BA8BA4B$33.4B29.2B2.4BABA13B2.2B$32.4B15.2A.2A7.11BABA20B7.2A.2A$
31.4B17.A.2AB4.14BA23B4.2BA.A$30.4B18.A.2BA3.19B2.19B3.BAB.A$29.4B16.
2A.A.ABAB2.40B2.4B.A.2A$28.4B18.A.A.3BA45BABA.A.A$27.4B19.A.2A.B.A3.31B
A6B3.A.A.2A.A$26.4B21.A3.2A3.19B2.10B2A7B3.2A3.A$25.4B23.3A4.19B4.9BA
BA7B4.3A$24.4B26.A5.18B4.18B5.A$23.4B34.17B4.17B$22.4B34.17B6.17B$21.
4B34.16B10.16B$20.4B35.16B10.16B$19.4B36.16B10.16B$18.4B37.15B12.15B$
17.4B38.14B14.14B$16.4B39.13B16.13B$15.4B40.12B18.12B$14.4B42.9B22.9B
$13.4B44.8B22.8B$12.4B46.4B.B24.B.4B$11.4B47.4B28.4B$10.4B48.4B28.4B$
9.4B50.2B30.2B$8.4B51.3B28.3B$7.4B52.B2AB26.B2AB$6.4B54.2A28.2A$5.4B$
4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B$3B$2B$B!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » May 15th, 2021, 9:21 pm

I literally made the same gun, but you posted earlier than me:

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x = 97, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
44b2o40b2o$45bo40bo$45bobo36bobo$46b2o36b2o13$40bo50bo$38b3o50b3o$37bo
3b2o46b2o3bo$36bob2obobo31bo12bo3b2obo$36bobobobo32bobo10bo4bobo$35b2o
bo36b2o12bobobob2o$38bo2bo47bo3bo$38bobo20bo28b2obo$37b2ob2o18bobo27b
2ob2o$60bobo$61bo8bo$69bobo$37b2ob2o27bobo18b2ob2o$38bob2o28bo20bobo$
38bo3bo47bo2bo$35b2obobobo12b2o36bob2o$36bobo4bo10bobo32bobobobo$36bob
2o3bo12bo31bobob2obo$30b2o5bo3b2o46b2o3bo$29b2o7b3o50b3o$31bo8bo50bo8$
61b2o$62bo$60bo$58b4o$57bo4bo$9b2o45bob5o21b2o$10bo45bobo4b2o19bobo$
10bobo42b2o5bo2bo20bo$11b2o42bo2bobobob2o20b2o$55b3obo2bo$55bo3bob2o$
55b2obobo$56bobobo$56bo2bo$57b2o7$5bo50bo$3b3o50b3o$2bo3b2o34bo11b2o3b
o$bob2o3bo31b2o11bobob2obo$bobo4bo32b2o11bobobobo$2obobobo50bob2o$3bo
3bo47bo2bo$3bob2o19bo29bobo$2b2ob2o18bobo27b2ob2o$25bobo$26bo8bo$34bob
o$2b2ob2o27bobo18b2ob2o$3bobo29bo19b2obo$3bo2bo47bo3bo$2obo50bobobob2o
$bobobobo11b2o32bo4bobo$bob2obobo11b2o31bo3b2obo$2bo3b2o11bo34b2o3bo$
3b3o50b3o$5bo50bo13$11b2o36b2o$10bobo36bobo$10bo40bo$9b2o40b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 17th, 2021, 1:37 am

Sokwe wrote:
May 17th, 2021, 12:00 am
Clever! Here's a reduction using the p5 sparker from the current smallest p20 gun:
I think this might be gun material, but I'm not sure.

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x = 28, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
9b2o9b2o$7bo2bo9bo2bo$7b2o13b2o$5b2o2b4o2bo2b4o2b2o$4bo3bo3b7o3bo3bo$
3bo2b2obo11bob2o2bo$4b2obobo4b3o4bobob2o$5bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo$5bo4bo3b
obo3bo4bo$4b2ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob2o$3bo3bo15bo3bo$3bob2ob2o11b2ob2obo$4bob
o6b2ob2o6bobo$6bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$6bobob2o2bobo2b2obobo$3b2obobo3b2obob
2o3bobob2o$4bobo6bo3bo6bobo$4bobo5bobobobo5bobo$3b2obob2ob3o3b3ob2obob
2o$6bo2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$6b2o15b2o$12bo5bo$12bo5bo$13b5o5$15bo$15bo$14bob
o$15bo$15bo7b2o$23b2o$14b3o$13b5o$13b2o2b2o$11b2o5b2o$10b2o4b3o$9b3o4b
2o$8b2o5b2o$9b2o2b2o$10b5o$2b2o7b3o$bobo$bo10bo$2o10bo$11bobo$12bo$12b
o5$10b5o$9bo5bo$9bo5bo$3b2o15b2o$3bo2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$2obob2ob3o3b3ob2ob
ob2o$bobo5bobobobo5bobo$bobo6bo3bo6bobo$2obobo3b2obob2o3bobob2o$3bobob
2o2bobo2b2obobo$3bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$bobo6b2ob2o6bobo$ob2ob2o11b2ob2obo$o
3bo15bo3bo$b2ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob2o$2bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo$2bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo
$b2obobo4b3o4bobob2o$o2b2obo11bob2o2bo$bo3bo3b7o3bo3bo$2b2o2b4o2bo2b4o
2b2o$4b2o13b2o$4bo2bo9bo2bo$6b2o9b2o!
EDIT: Is this even workable?

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x = 28, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A9.2A$7.A2.A9.A2.A$7.2A13.2A$5.2A2.4A2.A2.4A2.2A$4.A3.A3.7A3.A3.A$
3.A2.2A.A11.A.2A2.A$4.2A.A.A4.3A4.A.A.2A$5.A2.2A3.A3.A3.2A2.A$5.A4.A
3.A.A3.A4.A$4.2A.3A3.2A.2A3.3A.2A$3.A3.A15.A3.A$3.A.2A.2A11.2A.2A.A$
4.A.A6.2A.2A6.A.A$6.A2.A4.A.A4.A2.A$6.A.A.2A2.A.A2.2A.A.A$3.2A.A.A3.
2A.A.2A3.A.A.2A$4.A.A6.A3.A6.A.A$4.A.A5.A.A.A.A5.A.A$3.2A.A.2A.3A3.3A
.2A.A.2A$6.A2.2A3.3A3.2A2.A$6.2A15.2A$12.A5.A$12.A5.A$13.5A3.2C.2C$
21.5C$13.A3.A4.3C2$13.A3.A$13.A3.A4.3A$14.3A$15.A10.A$23.A2.A$24.A.A
2$15.A$14.A.A$14.A2.A5.A$15.3A3.A.A$16.A5.2A$11.A$5.2A3.3A$10.A2.A$
11.A.A$2.2A8.A$.A.A$.A$2A$12.A$11.3A$10.A3.A$10.A3.A2$10.A3.A2$10.5A$
9.A5.A$9.A5.A$3.2A15.2A$3.A2.2A3.3A3.2A2.A$2A.A.2A.3A3.3A.2A.A.2A$.A.
A5.A.A.A.A5.A.A$.A.A6.A3.A6.A.A$2A.A.A3.2A.A.2A3.A.A.2A$3.A.A.2A2.A.A
2.2A.A.A$3.A2.A4.A.A4.A2.A$.A.A6.2A.2A6.A.A$A.2A.2A11.2A.2A.A$A3.A15.
A3.A$.2A.3A3.2A.2A3.3A.2A$2.A4.A3.A.A3.A4.A$2.A2.2A3.A3.A3.2A2.A$.2A.
A.A4.3A4.A.A.2A$A2.2A.A11.A.2A2.A$.A3.A3.7A3.A3.A$2.2A2.4A2.A2.4A2.2A
$4.2A13.2A$4.A2.A9.A2.A$6.2A9.2A!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » May 17th, 2021, 6:15 am

wwei47 wrote:
May 17th, 2021, 1:37 am
I think this might be gun material, but I'm not sure.

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x = 28, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
9b2o9b2o$7bo2bo9bo2bo$7b2o13b2o$5b2o2b4o2bo2b4o2b2o$4bo3bo3b7o3bo3bo$
3bo2b2obo11bob2o2bo$4b2obobo4b3o4bobob2o$5bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo$5bo4bo3b
obo3bo4bo$4b2ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob2o$3bo3bo15bo3bo$3bob2ob2o11b2ob2obo$4bob
o6b2ob2o6bobo$6bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$6bobob2o2bobo2b2obobo$3b2obobo3b2obob
2o3bobob2o$4bobo6bo3bo6bobo$4bobo5bobobobo5bobo$3b2obob2ob3o3b3ob2obob
2o$6bo2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$6b2o15b2o$12bo5bo$12bo5bo$13b5o5$15bo$15bo$14bob
o$15bo$15bo7b2o$23b2o$14b3o$13b5o$13b2o2b2o$11b2o5b2o$10b2o4b3o$9b3o4b
2o$8b2o5b2o$9b2o2b2o$10b5o$2b2o7b3o$bobo$bo10bo$2o10bo$11bobo$12bo$12b
o5$10b5o$9bo5bo$9bo5bo$3b2o15b2o$3bo2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$2obob2ob3o3b3ob2ob
ob2o$bobo5bobobobo5bobo$bobo6bo3bo6bobo$2obobo3b2obob2o3bobob2o$3bobob
2o2bobo2b2obobo$3bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$bobo6b2ob2o6bobo$ob2ob2o11b2ob2obo$o
3bo15bo3bo$b2ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob2o$2bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo$2bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo
$b2obobo4b3o4bobob2o$o2b2obo11bob2o2bo$bo3bo3b7o3bo3bo$2b2o2b4o2bo2b4o
2b2o$4b2o13b2o$4bo2bo9bo2bo$6b2o9b2o!
Indeed! JLS gave me a p4 oscillator that can release the glider, giving a new p20 gun:

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x = 78, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
46bo12b2ob2o$44b3o12b2ob2o3bobo4b2o$43bo22bob4o2bo$14b2ob2o24b2o12b10o
5bobo$2b2o4bobo3b2ob2o38bo10b2ob2o2b2o$3bo2b4obo28b3o16bo3bob2obobo2bo
bo$3bobo5b10o18bo3bo14b2o2bob2o2bob3obo2bo$b2o2b2ob2o10bo19bo17bo4b2o
4b3o2bob2o$2bobo2bobob2obo3bo26bo12b3ob2o10bo$o2bob3obo2b2obo2b2o26bo
8bo2b2o2b2o9b2o$2obo2b3o4b2o4bo20b2o3bo4b2o2bo3bo3bo2bo2bobo2bo$3bo10b
2ob3o20bo8bobob3o2bobo2b3o2b2obobobo$3b2o9b2o2b2o2bo18b3o5bo3b3ob2o2b
2o8bo2b2o$4bo2bobo2bo2bo3bo3bo2b2o21bobob3o2bobo2b3o2b2obo$2bobobob2o
2b3o2bobo2b3obobo21b2o2bo3bo3bo2bo2bobo$2b2o2bo8b2o2b2ob3o3bo5b3o18bo
2b2o2b2o9b2o$6bob2o2b3o2bobo2b3obobo8bo20b3ob2o10bo$7bobo2bo2bo3bo3bo
2b2o4bo3b2o20bo4b2o4b3o2bob2o$3b2o9b2o2b2o2bo8bo26b2o2bob2o2bob3obo2bo
$3bo10b2ob3o12bo26bo3bob2obobo2bobo$2obo2b3o4b2o4bo17bo19bo10b2ob2o2b
2o$o2bob3obo2b2obo2b2o7b3o4bo3bo18b10o5bobo$2bobo2bobob2obo3bo4b2o10b
3o28bob4o2bo$b2o2b2ob2o10bo2bo2bob2ob3o25b2ob2o3bobo4b2o$3bobo5b10o4b
2obo2bobo25b2ob2o$3bo2b4obo14bobo2bob2o6bo$2b2o4bobo3b2ob2o7bob2o3b2o
7bo$14b2ob2o8bo2bo9b3o$28b3o$32bo$30b2ob2o11bo$29bobo15bo$29bo2bo2bo9b
3o$30bobo4bo$31b2ob4o$33bo17bo$33bobo16bo$34b2o14b3o!
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