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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by calcyman » July 13th, 2020, 7:08 pm

A for awesome wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 5:39 pm
Seal eater, repeat time 606 (first block catalyst credit to Hdjensofjfnen):
590 using a boojum reflector in place of the rectifier:

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x = 139, y = 163, rule = B3/S23
44b2o7bo$41b2o2bo5b3o$39b3ob2o5bo$38bo11b2o$39b3ob2o$41bob2o3$49b2o3b
2o$49b2o3b2o4$59bo$58bobo$59bo7$5b2o34b2o$6bo13b2ob2o16b2o$5bo13bobobo
bo$5b2o13bo3bo4$29b2o$9bo2b2o15b2o$7b3obobobo35b2o$b2o4bo2b3o2b2o34bo$
b2o3bo2b6obob3o31b3o$7bo2b3obob5o33bo$12bobobobo$6bobo3bobob5o$6bo2bob
o2bob2o3bo$9bo2b2o7b3o$2b2o3bo3b5ob3o2b2o$bobo6bo9bo23b2o$bo6bobo9bo
23bo$2o8b2ob5o3bo23b3o$12bob3o2bo5b2o20bo$12bo2bo3bob3ob2o$14b2o3b3obo
2bo3bo$14b2o4b2ob4o3b3o$25bobo2bo$19bobo5b2o2b2o$19bo2bo5bob3o5bo$9bo
9bo3bo4b2o2bo3bo2bo$8bobo10b3o5b2o8bo$8bobo10bobo2bo2bo5b2o2bo$9bo13bo
2b2ob2obo2bo$22bo7bobo$23bo3b4o$24bo3bo2$29bo$28bobo$27b2o$27bobo$27b
2o$29bo$28bo64$107b2o$106b3ob3o$108bo3b2o$105b2ob2o2bo2bobo$105bo6bob
4o$111b2obo2bo$105bo4b2o3bob2o$105b2o8bobo2bo$105bo2b5ob3o4bo$106bo9bo
4bo$106b2obo2bo3bo3bo$107bo9b2o$114b2o2b2o4bo$107bo3b2obo4b3o2bo$108b
2obob5o5bob2o$112b2ob2ob2ob2o2b3o$122bobo4bo$113b2o4bobo3b6o$118bo7b2o
$118bo3bo$118bo4bo3b3o6bo$119b5o3b2ob2o2b2ob2o$122b2obo2bob2o2bo$121b
2o5bo4bo2b3o$120b3obobobobo$127bo2bo$123bobo$124bo2$126b3o$126b3o2$
125b2o$125b2o$126bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Layz Boi » July 15th, 2020, 1:10 am

gameoflifemaniac wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 4:53 pm
Trivial reduction to one of the still lifes:

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x = 61, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
38.2C$38.C2.C$39.3C2$37.7C12.C$37.C2.C2.C10.3C$53.C$53.2C2$12.A33.A$
7.A4.A.A27.2A2.3A$.A4.A3.3A.2A25.5A2.A$A.A8.A.2A19.3A3.2A6.A$2.3A3.2A
25.2A2.A.4A2.A6.2C$6.A3.A22.A4.3A13.C.C$4A4.2A24.5A3.2A12.C$2A.4A.2A
25.A3.4A13.2C$40.A$40.A$2A.4A.2A25.A3.4A9.2C$4A4.2A24.5A3.2A8.C$6.A3.
A22.A4.3A9.C.C$2.3A3.2A25.2A2.A.4A2.A2.2C$A.A8.A.2A19.3A3.2A6.A$.A4.A
3.3A.2A25.5A2.A$7.A4.A.A27.2A2.3A$12.A33.A$54.3D.D.D$49.2C3.D.D.D.D$
49.C4.3D.3D$50.3C.D.D3.D$52.C.3D3.D!
Here's an easy reduction: replacing the long-table-thing-&-co. still life with an eater 1. The two possible ways trade bounding box size for repeat time.

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x = 61, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
35.C$35.3C18.C$38.C15.3C$37.2C14.C$53.2C2$13.A.A30.A$11.A3.A26.2A2.3A
$10.3A3.A24.5A2.A$3.A4.2A3.3A18.3A3.2A6.A$.A.2A2.A3.2A.2A19.2A2.A.4A2.
A6.2C$.A2.A2.2A2.A21.A4.3A13.C.C$2.3A.A3.2A22.5A3.2A12.C$7.3A25.A3.4A
13.2C$40.A$40.A$7.3A25.A3.4A9.2C$2.3A.A3.2A22.5A3.2A8.C$.A2.A2.2A2.A21.
A4.3A9.C.C$.A.2A2.A3.2A.2A19.2A2.A.4A2.A2.2C$3.A4.2A3.3A18.3A3.2A6.A$
10.3A3.A24.5A2.A$11.A3.A26.2A2.3A$13.A.A30.A$54.3D3.D$49.2C3.D.D3.D$49.
C4.3D3.D$50.3C.D.D3.D$52.C.3D3.D7$45.C$43.3C10.C$42.C11.3C$42.2C9.C$53.
2C2$13.A32.A$12.A.2A26.2A2.3A$.A8.A4.A25.5A2.A$2.A6.A.A.3A18.3A3.2A6.
A$.3A5.2A24.2A2.A.4A2.A6.2C$4.A2.A2.A22.A4.3A13.C.C$A2.A2.A.A.A23.5A3.
2A12.C$A2.3A.3A25.A3.4A13.2C$4.2A34.A$4.2A34.A$A2.3A.3A25.A3.4A9.2C$A
2.A2.A.A.A23.5A3.2A8.C$4.A2.A2.A22.A4.3A9.C.C$.3A5.2A24.2A2.A.4A2.A2.
2C$2.A6.A.A.3A18.3A3.2A6.A$.A8.A4.A25.5A2.A$12.A.2A26.2A2.3A$13.A32.A
$54.3D.3D$49.2C3.D.D3.D$49.C4.3D.3D$50.3C.D.D3.D$52.C.3D.3D!
edit: different ship, smaller bounding box, higher repeat period

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x = 45, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
2.A23.2A3.A$2.A4.2A16.A6.A$.2A2.2A.2A22.A$.3A.4A16.2A.5A$A3.4A17.2A$2A
.A21.A.A$2A.2A19.A2.A6.2C$2.A22.A.A6.2C$2.2A.2A$3.5A19.5A$3.3A.2A17.A
4.A$6.2A23.A$26.A3.A7.D.D.3D$28.A4.2C3.D.D3.D$33.C4.3D3.D$34.3C3.D3.D
$36.C3.D3.D!
edit: some eaters for some various 2c/5 & c/4 ships from the Spaceship Discussion Thread.
I wouldn't be surprised if some are already discovered, or slower/bigger than some known eaters.

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x = 209, y = 137, rule = LifeHistory
20.C49.C36.2C29.2C42.2C11.2C$20.3C15.3A27.3C36.C30.2C42.2C11.2C$15.C7.
C14.A.A26.C28.C7.2C.C6.C$14.C.C5.2C13.A2.A26.2C27.3C5.C.C5.3C33.2C$14.
C.C17.6A59.C11.C36.2C$12.3C.2C14.A2.A2.2A58.2C11.2C$11.C19.2A125.C$12.
3C.2C12.A.A.2A9.3D.3D12.3A10.3D.3D72.3C$14.C.2C6.3A3.A3.A10.D.D3.D12.
A2.A9.D.D.D.D21.A49.C7.D.D.3D32.3D.3D$24.A.A3.A.2A11.3D2.2D14.2A9.3D.
D.D20.3A11.3D3.D30.2C6.D.D.D.D12.A13.A7.D.D$24.A3.A.A5.A8.D.D3.D12.A12.
D.D.D.D19.2A.2A12.D3.D38.3D.D.D10.2A.2A9.2A.2A4.2D.3D$27.A.A.A3.A9.3D
.3D12.6A7.3D.3D36.D3.D40.D.D.D13.2A9.2A8.D3.D$24.A2.A36.A5.2A29.4A.4A
10.D3.D14.A9.A15.D.3D32.3D.3D$24.2A38.A4.3A28.A3.A.A3.A9.D3.D12.2A.2A
5.2A.2A28.A.A.2A7.2A.A.A$27.A.A41.A27.2A.A5.A.2A28.2A5.2A32.2A.2A2.3A
2.2A.2A$26.2A40.3A34.A36.A3.A41.A.A$27.A37.4A.A28.3A.5A.3A23.A4.A.A3.
A.A4.A31.2A.A.A.2A$27.3A37.2A.2A26.2A.A7.A.2A21.3A5.A3.A5.3A31.7A$27.
A2.A38.A.A31.5A26.A5.A.2A.2A.A5.A33.A.A$28.3A37.4A26.2A2.A.A.A.A2.2A23.
A3.A7.A3.A34.A3.A$27.A.2A36.2A30.A11.A24.2A3.A.3A.A3.2A33.A.A.A.A$26.
2A39.A.A28.A3.A.A.A.A3.A21.A6.A5.A6.A33.A.A$25.2A71.A6.A6.A21.A19.A33.
A.A$24.A2.A38.A2.A27.A3.A7.A3.A68.A5.A.A5.A$4.2F4.F.3F9.4A38.2A29.2A13.
2A67.A.A3.2A.2A3.A.A$4.F.F3.F.F55.A29.A13.A67.2A.2A9.2A.2A$2F4.F2.F2.
2F9.3A40.2A.A110.2A2.A9.A2.2A$2.F2.F3.F4.F8.A.A40.A.A25.A2.2A13.2A2.A
64.2A.2A7.2A.2A$2.F.F3.F5.F54.2A23.2A2.2A11.2A2.2A22.A9.A32.A4.A.A.A4.
A$2F2.3F.F3.2F55.A23.2A3.3A9.3A3.2A19.2A.2A5.2A.2A32.A3.A.A3.A$69.A25.
A3.A11.A3.A24.2A5.2A37.A.A.A.A$67.2A28.2A13.2A28.A3.A35.A3.2A.A.2A3.A
$67.2A66.A4.A.A3.A.A4.A28.A13.A$66.A.A28.A2.A9.A2.A20.3A5.A3.A5.3A31.
2A3.2A$38.3A25.2A30.2A11.2A21.A5.A.2A.2A.A5.A33.A.A$37.A3.A25.2A27.2A
.A11.A.2A21.A3.A7.A3.A33.A.A.A.A$35.A2.A27.A28.A.2A6.A6.2A.A20.2A3.A.
3A.A3.2A35.A.A$35.2A.A55.A2.2A5.A.A5.2A2.A17.A6.A5.A6.A33.A.A$31.3A2.
2A.2A53.A.A6.A3.A6.A.A17.A19.A32.2A.2A$31.2A2.3A26.3A28.A7.A3.A7.A$30.
A.A2.3A26.A2.A34.3A.3A$24.3A.3A4.2A29.2A25.2A5.2A7.2A5.2A$23.A2.A.A3.
A.2A28.A28.2A5.4A3.4A5.2A$26.A3.A.3A29.6A28.A6.A6.A$25.A3.2A.2A30.A5.
2A26.A.5A.5A.A$23.2A4.3A32.A4.3A29.A.A3.A.A$28.A.A40.A25.A.A4.3A4.A.A
$27.3A38.3A29.3A5.3A$65.4A.A28.A.2A.A.A.2A.A$28.2A37.2A.2A27.2A.A.A.A
.A.2A$29.A39.A.A27.3A3.A3.3A$26.A.2A38.4A27.2A9.2A$30.2A35.2A27.3A13.
3A$27.5A35.A.A28.A13.A$26.A2.A65.A.A15.A.A$24.2A.2A37.A2.A$24.2A40.2A
26.3A.2A11.2A.3A$68.A25.A4.A11.A4.A$23.A.3A38.2A.A24.A5.A9.A5.A$25.2A
39.A.A27.A.A13.A.A$22.2A45.2A27.2A11.2A$69.A28.2A11.2A$69.A28.2A11.2A
$67.2A$67.2A26.3A.A11.A.3A$66.A.A26.2A2.A11.A2.2A$66.2A26.A21.A$67.2A
25.2A19.2A$66.A26.2A3.A13.A3.2A$93.2A21.2A2$94.A21.A11$27.2C35.C39.C48.
C$27.2C35.3C37.3C31.C14.3C$67.C39.C28.3C17.C$66.C.C37.C.C26.C19.C.C$66.
C.C37.C.C25.C.C18.C.C$45.D3.D.3D13.C39.C26.C.C10.2C7.C$22.3A20.D3.D3.
D6.2C18.D.3D.3D46.C11.2C$23.A21.D3.D.3D7.C18.D.D.D.D.D7.C$45.D3.D.D9.
C.C16.D.D.D.D.D7.3C$24.A11.C8.D3.D.3D8.2C6.A3.A5.D.D.D.D.D10.C16.3D.3D
43.3D3.D$21.4A9.3C33.A3.A5.D.3D.3D9.C.C17.D3.D8.3A24.3A5.D5.D$20.3A10.
C35.A.A.A.A22.C.C8.3A6.D2.2D43.3D3.D$19.A2.A10.2C7.2C55.C10.A7.D3.D8.
A.A24.A.A7.D3.D$18.2A.A20.C26.A.A.A.A42.D.3D43.3D3.D$17.A22.C.C28.A.A
37.A22.2A20.2A$16.A5.A17.2C26.A.A3.A.A32.A.A22.A.A18.A.A$21.2A45.A.A3.
A.A31.A3.A22.2A.A14.A.2A$16.3A2.2A2.2A10.2C29.A2.3A2.A31.A3.A21.A3.2A
12.2A3.A$25.2A9.C.C23.2C42.A5.A29.3A2.3A$25.A.A8.C25.2C3.2A7.2A28.A28.
A.A2.2A8.2A2.A.A$24.A2.A4.A4.4C26.A9.A24.A3.A3.2A24.A6.A4.A6.A$6.F.F.
F13.A.A.A3.2A7.C26.A7.A25.A4.A3.A$6.F.F.F17.A.2A2.A2.2C.2C25.2A.5A.2A
23.A.A3.3A22.A9.A.4A.A9.A$2F3.F2.3F22.A4.C.C27.A2.A.A2.A32.A.2A19.A9.
A2.2A2.A9.A$2.F2.F4.F27.C.C28.A.A.A.A28.A4.A21.A.A24.A.A$2.F.F5.F28.C
63.6A2.3A$2F2.F5.F59.2A.2A28.A30.A22.A$70.A3.A59.2A20.2A$69.2A3.2A34.
A23.A.2A16.2A.A$69.2A3.2A34.A23.A.A.2A12.2A.A.A$109.A.A23.A.3A3.A4.A3.
3A.A$138.6A4.6A$109.A.A24.A4.A2.A2.A2.A4.A$110.2A24.A18.A$22.3A45.A3.
A34.A33.6A$23.A46.A3.A33.5A30.2A2.2A$69.A.A.A.A31.A2.3A30.2A2.2A$24.A
81.3A$21.4A44.A.A.A.A31.4A$20.3A48.A.A27.3A5.A.2A$19.A2.A45.A.A3.A.A31.
A$18.2A.A46.A.A3.A.A24.A2.A.2A.A.2A$17.A50.A2.3A2.A28.3A.A.2A$16.A5.A
81.A3.A3.2A$21.2A44.2A7.2A24.2A$16.3A2.2A2.2A40.A9.A$25.2A41.A7.A$25.
A.A39.2A.5A.2A$24.A2.A4.A35.A2.A.A2.A$24.A.A.A3.2A35.A.A.A.A$28.A.2A2.
A$33.A36.2A.2A$70.A3.A$69.2A3.2A$69.2A3.2A!


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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by yujh » July 20th, 2020, 2:46 am

practice:

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x = 164, y = 386, rule = LifeHistory
111.2C8.D.3D.D.D.D3.D.3D.D.3D$110.C.C8.D.D3.D.D2.D.D4.D.D3.D$104.2C4.
C10.D.3D.3D3.D3.3D.D.3D$102.C2.C2.2C.4C6.D.D.D3.D2.D.D2.D3.D.D$102.2C
.C.C.C.C2.C6.D.3D3.D.D3.D.3D.D.3D$105.C.C.C.C$105.C.C.2C$106.C$128.D.
D.3D.3D$119.2C7.D.D.D3.D$110.2C7.C8.D.D.3D.3D$110.2C5.C.C8.D.D.D.D3.D
$117.2C9.D.D.3D.3D7$107.2C$108.C$105.3C$105.C29$159.2C$159.C$161.C$
141.2C14.5C$142.C13.C$142.C.C12.3C$143.2C15.C$157.4C$110.2C40.2C3.C3.
2C$110.2C12.2C.C.2C21.2C4.3C2.C$117.C.2C.C2.C.2C2.C3.2C23.C.2C$117.2C
.C.2C.C4.C.C3.C23.C$125.5C.C4.C.C20.2C$121.2C.C4.C7.2C$121.2C.C.C3.C$
125.C.C3.C19.2C$126.C3.2C19.C$147.C4.3C$146.C.C5.C$147.C$32.C$32.3C
83.2C$35.C82.2C$34.2C67.2C$102.C2.C$101.C.2C42.2C$26.2C73.C45.2C$26.C
44.2C27.2C$23.2C.C44.2C12.2C.C.2C23.2C$23.C2.3C4.2C43.C.2C.C2.C.2C2.C
3.2C17.C$24.2C3.C3.2C43.2C.C.2C.C4.C.C3.C18.3C$26.4C56.5C.C4.C.C18.C
5.2C$26.C15.2C38.2C.C4.C7.2C23.C.C$27.3C12.C.C37.2C.C.C3.C31.C$30.C
13.C41.C.C3.C29.2C$25.5C14.2C41.C3.2C$25.C22.2C58.C$27.C20.2C57.C.C
20.C15.2C$26.2C80.C20.C.C14.C.C$129.C.C16.C$79.2C49.C17.2C$57.2C20.2C
53.2C$57.C6.2C68.C.C$55.C.C5.C2.C69.C$55.2C5.C.2C42.2C26.2C$62.C45.2C
$61.2C$58.2C16.2C$41.2C4.2C9.C17.C67.C$40.C.C3.C.C7.C.C18.3C62.3C$40.
C6.C8.2C21.C5.2C54.C$39.2C43.C.C54.2C$50.2E32.C$50.2E31.2C$38.C110.2C
$38.3C109.C$41.C49.C15.2C41.C.2C$40.2C48.C.C14.C.C32.2C4.3C2.C$90.C.C
16.C32.2C3.C3.2C$91.C17.2C36.4C$95.2C36.2C15.C$95.C.C34.C.C12.3C$97.C
34.C13.C$97.2C32.2C14.5C$151.C$149.C$149.2C2$106.C$53.A50.3C$42.2C8.
2A49.C$42.2C8.A2.A47.2C$56.A$45.2C8.A2.2A$45.2C10.A2.A50.2C$59.A52.C$
58.2A3.A48.C.2C$42.2C17.2A.A39.2C4.3C2.C$42.2C17.A2.2A38.2C3.C3.2C$
61.2A.2A43.4C$58.2A2.A2.A29.2C15.C$57.2A6.2A27.C.C12.3C$57.2A.A.2A.A
28.C13.C$60.A.3A.A26.2C14.5C$60.A.A.A.A46.C$109.2C$64.A3.A40.2C$68.2A
$66.A2.3A$70.2A.2A$73.A$70.A.A26.C$73.A25.3C$70.A2.A28.C$74.A26.2C$
71.A$71.4A$71.A.2A.A$71.A$76.A$72.A2.A$73.A37.2C$104.2C5.C.C$104.2C7.
C$113.2C2$100.C$99.C.C.2C$99.C.C.C.C$96.2C.C.C.C.C2.C$96.C2.C2.2C.4C$
98.2C4.C$104.C.C$105.2C6$3.2C$4.C$2.C$2.5C14.2C$7.C13.C$4.3C12.C.C$3.
C15.2C$3.4C$.2C3.C3.2C$C2.3C4.2C$2C.C$3.C$3.2C3$11.2C$12.C$9.3C$9.C$
34.C$34.3C$37.C$36.2C7$46.2C$39.2C5.C.C$39.2C7.C$48.2C2$35.C$34.C.C.
2C$34.C.C.C.C$31.2C.C.C.C.C2.C$31.C2.C2.2C.4C$33.2C4.C$39.C.C$40.2C
142$53.A$52.2A$52.A2.A$56.A$55.A2.2A$57.A2.A$59.A$58.2A3.A$61.2A.A$
61.A2.2A$61.2A.2A$58.2A2.A2.A$57.2A6.2A$57.2A.A.2A.A$60.A.3A.A$60.A.A
.A.A2$64.A3.A$68.2A$66.A2.3A$70.2A.2A$73.A$70.A.A$73.A$70.A2.A$74.A$
71.A$71.4A$71.A.2A.A$71.A$76.A$72.A2.A$73.A!
An idea:

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x = 75, y = 83, rule = LifeHistory
24.D$22.D.D$23.2D12.A$35.3A$34.A13.A$34.2A10.3A$19.2A24.A$20.A24.2A$
20.A.2A$21.A2.A$22.2A$37.2A$37.2A6$3.4B$4.4B32.2A.A$5.4B31.2A.3A$6.4B
36.A$7.4B19.E9.2A.3A$8.4B17.E.E9.A.A$9.4B2.B13.E.E9.A.A$10.8B12.E11.A
$11.9B$12.8B11.2D.2D8.A$13.8B10.2D.2D8.3A$12.10B25.A$13.9B24.2A$14.7B
25.7B$4.A9.9B23.8B$3.A.A6.12B21.10B3.B$3.A.A5.13B20.17B$2.2A.2AB4.12B
21.17B9.A$.A2.A2.AB2.12B23.16B7.3A$A.A.A.ABA8B3DB24.2B3D12B6.A$.A.A.A
.A9BD2B9.3D13.4BD14B3.B2A$3.A.A.10B3DB8.D2.D10.4B3D20B$2.A.BAB.2B2.
11B6.D13.25B$2.B2A2B6.11B5.D12.26B$3.2B7.12B6.D.D9.28B$4.2B7.11B18.
30B$3.B2AB7.9B19.30B$4.2A8.7B23.24B.4B$13.9B22.17B4.4B.2A2B$12.10B22.
17B5.3BA.AB$13.8B22.4B.7B11.3B2A$12.8B22.4B3.5B14.3B$11.9B21.4B5.3B
16.B$10.8B22.4B6.3B$9.4B2.B23.4B8.B$8.4B26.4B5$65.3A$64.A$63.A5.A$63.
A5.A$64.2A.A$63.3A2.A.2A$64.A5.A$71.A$64.2A$63.3A$63.A3.2A$63.3A$63.
2A7.2A$64.A5.A3.A$64.2A.A.2A2.A$64.A4.A$65.A4.A2.A$70.A.A$69.A.2A$69.
A.A$70.2A$71.A$71.A$70.A$71.2A!
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » July 20th, 2020, 8:46 am

yujh wrote:
July 20th, 2020, 2:46 am
practice...
That's a good start! The pattern goes to a lot of effort to shoot down a long boat that doesn't really have to be there, though:

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x = 141, y = 386, rule = LifeHistory
88.2C$87.C.C$81.2C4.C$79.C2.C2.2C.4C$79.2C.C.C.C.C2.C$82.C.C.C.C$82.C
.C.2C$83.C2$96.2C$87.2C7.C$87.2C5.C.C$94.2C7$84.2C$85.C$82.3C$82.C29$
136.2C$136.C$138.C$118.2C14.5C$119.C13.C$119.C.C12.3C$120.2C15.C$134.
4C$87.2C40.2C3.C3.2C$87.2C12.2C.C.2C21.2C4.3C2.C$94.C.2C.C2.C.2C2.C3.
2C23.C.2C$94.2C.C.2C.C4.C.C3.C23.C$102.5C.C4.C.C20.2C$98.2C.C4.C7.2C$
98.2C.C.C3.C$102.C.C3.C19.2C$103.C3.2C19.C$124.C4.3C$123.C.C5.C$124.C
$9.C$9.3C83.2C$12.C82.2C$11.2C67.2C$79.C2.C$78.C.2C42.2C$3.2C73.C45.
2C$3.C44.2C27.2C$2C.C44.2C12.2C.C.2C23.2C$C2.3C4.2C43.C.2C.C2.C.2C2.C
3.2C17.C$.2C3.C3.2C43.2C.C.2C.C4.C.C3.C18.3C$3.4C56.5C.C4.C.C18.C5.2C
$3.C15.2C38.2C.C4.C7.2C23.C.C$4.3C12.C.C37.2C.C.C3.C31.C$7.C13.C41.C.
C3.C29.2C$2.5C14.2C41.C3.2C$2.C22.2C58.C$4.C20.2C57.C.C20.C15.2C$3.2C
80.C20.C.C14.C.C$106.C.C16.C$56.2C49.C17.2C$34.2C20.2C53.2C$34.C6.2C
68.C.C$32.C.C5.C2.C69.C$32.2C5.C.2C42.2C26.2C$39.C45.2C$38.2C$35.2C
16.2C$18.2C4.2C9.C17.C67.C$17.C.C3.C.C7.C.C18.3C62.3C$17.C6.C8.2C21.C
5.2C54.C$16.2C43.C.C54.2C$27.2E32.C$27.2E31.2C$15.C110.2C$15.3C109.C$
18.C30.A18.C15.2C41.C.2C$17.2C28.3A17.C.C14.C.C32.2C4.3C2.C$46.A20.C.
C16.C32.2C3.C3.2C$46.2A20.C17.2C36.4C$72.2C36.2C15.C$72.C.C34.C.C12.
3C$74.C34.C13.C$74.2C32.2C14.5C$128.C$126.C$126.2C3$30.A$19.2C8.2A$
19.2C8.A2.A$33.A$22.2C8.A2.2A$22.2C10.A2.A$36.A$35.2A3.A$19.2C17.2A.A
$19.2C17.A2.2A$38.2A.2A$35.2A2.A2.A$34.2A6.2A$34.2A.A.2A.A$37.A.3A.A$
37.A.A.A.A2$41.A3.A$45.2A$43.A2.3A$47.2A.2A$50.A$47.A.A26.C$50.A25.3C
$47.A2.A28.C$51.A26.2C$48.A$48.4A$48.A.2A.A$48.A$53.A$49.A2.A$50.A37.
2C$81.2C5.C.C$81.2C7.C$90.2C2$77.C$76.C.C.2C$76.C.C.C.C$73.2C.C.C.C.C
2.C$73.C2.C2.2C.4C$75.2C4.C$81.C.C$82.2C189$30.A$29.2A$29.A2.A$33.A$
32.A2.2A$34.A2.A$36.A$35.2A3.A$38.2A.A$38.A2.2A$38.2A.2A$35.2A2.A2.A$
34.2A6.2A$34.2A.A.2A.A$37.A.3A.A$37.A.A.A.A2$41.A3.A$45.2A$43.A2.3A$
47.2A.2A$50.A$47.A.A$50.A$47.A2.A$51.A$48.A$48.4A$48.A.2A.A$48.A$53.A
$49.A2.A$50.A!
Just replace that first G-to-H-to-2G splitter with some other splitter that fires more useful gliders, and it should be possible to cut the repeat time and bounding box way down.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 24th, 2020, 3:37 pm

Anyone have an inkling as to how to complete this eater for 86P9H3V0? I've tried for a while now without success.

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x = 43, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
18b2o3b2o$18bobobobo$20bobo$19b2ob2o4$o41bo$3o37b3o$3bo35bo$2b2o35b2o
7$17bo7bo$13b2obobo5bobob2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$15b2o9b2o$
4b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$4b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$3bo2bob2o23b2obo
2bo$18b3ob3o$18b7o$16b2o7b2o2$16bo9bo$20b3o!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by goldenratio » September 24th, 2020, 4:16 pm

Completed:

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x = 49, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
8bo31bo$7bobo29bobo$8bo31bo2$6b5o27b5o$5bo4bo27bo4bo$4bo2bo33bo2bo$bo
2bob2o8b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o8b2obo2bo$obobo5bo5b2o3bobobobo3b2o5bo5bobobo$b
o2bo4bobo11bobo11bobo4bo2bo$4b2o2bo2bo10b2ob2o10bo2bo2b2o$9b2o27b2o3$
3bo41bo$3b3o37b3o$6bo35bo$5b2o35b2o7$20bo7bo$16b2obobo5bobob2o$16b2o4b
o3bo4b2o$16b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18b2o9b2o$7b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$7b
2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$6bo2bob2o23b2obo2bo$21b3ob3o$21b7o$19b2o7b2o2$19b
o9bo$23b3o!
EDIT: :x

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x = 43, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
13b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$4b2o7b2o3bobobobo3b2o7b2o$5bo14bobo14bo$5bobo11b2ob
2o11bobo$6b2o27b2o3$o41bo$3o37b3o$3bo35bo$2b2o35b2o7$17bo7bo$13b2obob
o5bobob2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$15b2o9b2o$4b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob
3obo3b2ob3ob2o$4b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$3bo2bob2o23b2obo2bo$18b3ob3o$18b
7o$16b2o7b2o2$16bo9bo$20b3o!
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EDIT2: reduced:

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x = 43, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
6bo29bo$5bobo27bobo$5bobo27bobo$3b3ob2o4b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2ob3o$2bo10b
2o3bobobobo3b2o10bo$3b3ob2o11bobo11b2ob3o$5bob2o10b2ob2o10b2obo4$o41b
o$3o37b3o$3bo35bo$2b2o35b2o7$17bo7bo$13b2obobo5bobob2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o
$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$15b2o9b2o$4b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$4b2o4bo4bo
11bo4bo4b2o$3bo2bob2o23b2obo2bo$18b3ob3o$18b7o$16b2o7b2o2$16bo9bo$20b
3o!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by JP21 » September 24th, 2020, 10:09 pm

Now this reduction is certainly not needed:

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x = 43, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
8b2o23b2o$5b2o2bo13b2o8bo2b2o$3b3ob2o4b2o7bobo3b2o4b2ob3o$2bo10b2o5b3o
5b2o10bo$3b3ob2o10bo3bo10b2ob3o$5bob2o10b2ob2o10b2obo4$o41bo$3o37b3o$
3bo35bo$2b2o35b2o7$17bo7bo$13b2obobo5bobob2o$13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$13b2o4bo
3bo4b2o$15b2o9b2o$4b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$4b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b
2o$3bo2bob2o23b2obo2bo$18b3ob3o$18b7o$16b2o7b2o2$16bo9bo$20b3o!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by BlinkerSpawn » September 25th, 2020, 3:25 pm

Getting a glider out should be easy:

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x = 37, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o2$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o
$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$o2bob2o
23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2bobobo2bo$17b3o$18bo$18bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by goldenratio » September 25th, 2020, 4:02 pm

Smaller eater found while toying around with that reaction:

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x = 37, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
7bo21bo$6bobo19bobo$6bobo19bobo$4b3ob2o17b2ob3o$3bo29bo$4b3ob2o17b2ob
3o$6bob2o17b2obo5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4bo3b
o4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$o
2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2bobobo2bo$17b3o$18bo$
18bo!
EDIT: If we clean up the junk here we can get an X-to-2G converter:

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
29bo$28bobo$28bobo$7bo19b2ob3o$6bobo24bo$6bobo18b2ob3o$4b3ob2o17b2obo
$3bo$4b3ob2o$6bob2o5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4b
o3bo4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o
$o2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2bobobo2bo$17b3o$18b
o$18bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by bubblegum » September 25th, 2020, 4:44 pm

goldenratio wrote:
September 25th, 2020, 4:02 pm
Smaller eater found while toying around with that reaction:

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x = 37, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
7bo21bo$6bobo19bobo$6bobo19bobo$4b3ob2o17b2ob3o$3bo29bo$4b3ob2o17b2ob
3o$6bob2o17b2obo5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4bo3b
o4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$o
2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2bobobo2bo$17b3o$18bo$
18bo!
EDIT: If we clean up the junk here we can get an X-to-2G converter:

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
29bo$28bobo$28bobo$7bo19b2ob3o$6bobo24bo$6bobo18b2ob3o$4b3ob2o17b2obo
$3bo$4b3ob2o$6bob2o5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4b
o3bo4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o
$o2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2bobobo2bo$17b3o$18b
o$18bo!
Eater 1s work fine:

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x = 37, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3$6bo23bo$6b3o19b3o$9bo17bo$8b2o17b2o5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o
4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b
2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$o2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2b
obobo2bo$17b3o$18bo$18bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 25th, 2020, 11:10 pm

bubblegum wrote:
September 25th, 2020, 4:44 pm
Eater 1s work fine:

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x = 37, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3$6bo23bo$6b3o19b3o$9bo17bo$8b2o17b2o5$14bo7bo$10b2obobo5bobob2o$10b2o
4bo3bo4b2o$10b2o4bo3bo4b2o$12b2o9b2o$b2ob3ob2o3bob3ob3obo3b2ob3ob2o$b
2o4bo4bo11bo4bo4b2o$o2bob2o23b2obo2bo$15b3ob3o$15b7o$13b2o7b2o2$13bo2b
obobo2bo$17b3o$18bo$18bo!
I must be on the struggle bus -- I'm sure I came across that reaction with the eaters, but I had already put in other eaters before that, so it didn't result in a clean destruction.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by JP21 » October 31st, 2020, 8:55 am

Here is a 64P2H1V0 eater with repeat time 19:

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x = 43, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
7bo13b2o12bo$7b3o11b2o10b3o$10bo21bo$4bo4b2o21b2o4bo$3bobo31bobo$3bobo
31bobo$b3ob2o29b2ob3o$o41bo$b3ob2o4b3o15b3o4b2ob3o$3bob2o3bo3bo13bo3bo
3b2obo$9b2o4bo11bo4b2o$8bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo$7b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo
4bob2o$6bo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo$18bo5bo$6b2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2$12bo17bo$11b
3o15b3o$9b2ob3o13b3ob2o$10bo2bob2o4bo4b2obo2bo$7b2obo4bobob2ob2obobo4b
ob2o$7b2obobo2bobo7bobo2bobob2o$7bo8b3obobob3o8bo$6b2o7b2o9b2o7b2o!
Though it was hiding in my collection for many months now.
JP21 wrote:
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I can't find any improvements so I just added a smaller 64P2H1V0 eater.

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humongous collection
I moved the block of the Enterprise eater for a smaller bounding box.

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x = 50, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bo2bo$6bobo$9bo$7b2o$7b2o$4b2obo$b2o2bo2bo$o2b3o2bo$3o5b2o$2bo6b
2obo2b2o$9bobo3bo2b2o$10b2o8bo$11bo3bobob2o$11b5obobo$9bo2bobo3b2o$9bo
bobo2b3o$10bo5b2o$13b4o$12b2obo$11b3o11bobo$26b3o$28bo$26bobo2$23b2obo
$20b2o4b2o$19bo2b3ob2o$19bobobo3bobo$21bo8bo3b2o$28bo2bo2b2o2bo$30b2o
3bo3bo6bo$32bobo3b2o5bobo$29b2o3bobo5bo3bo$38bo2bobo$28bob3ob2o2bo2bob
o$29bob2o4bo4bo3b2o$31b2o3bo9bo$30bo3b2o11b3o$25b2o3bob2o15bo$25b2o4bo
!
Better 27P4H1V1 eater:

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x = 24, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14bo$12bobo$12b2o$9b2o$8bobo12bo$10bo10b3o$7bo12bo$6bobo11b2o$6b
obo$3bo4bo$3b2o3bo7b2o$2bobo3b4o3bobo$13bo3bo$2o6bo4b2o$3o7bo3bo$2bo$
10bo$2b3o5b2o$3bob2o2bobo$2b6o$4bo3bo$7bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by JP21 » December 7th, 2020, 6:54 pm

Just one "dothe" eater:

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x = 136, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
74bo$73bobo$73bobo$72b2ob3o$o9bo2bo9bo32b2o20bo$3o5b3o2b3o5b3o32b2o14b
2ob3o$3bo3bo8bo3bo51b2obo$2b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o5$118b2o$118bobo9bo$80b2o34b
obob3o5b3o$80bo35b2o5bo3bo$78bobo41b2o3b2o$78b2o3$4b3o10b3o$56b3o10b3o
39b3o10b3o$4bobo10bobo$5bo12bo37bobo10bobo39bobo10bobo$57bo12bo41bo12b
o8b2o$6b2ob6ob2o116b2o$58b2ob6ob2o43b2ob6ob2o5b2o$7bo2bo2bo2bo113b2o$
59bo2bo2bo2bo36b2o7bo2bo2bo2bo$8b8o88bobo$11b2o47b8o36bo10b8o$8b2o4b2o
47b2o38b2o13b2o$60b2o4b2o47b2o4b2o7b2o$130bobo$115bo6bo9bo$7b2o6b2o98b
o6bo9b2o$6bobo6bobo41b2o6b2o46b2o4b2o$6bo2bo4bo2bo40bobo6bobo46b2o2b2o
$7b2o6b2o41bo2bo4bo2bo46b2o2b2o$8bo6bo43b2o6b2o3bo42b3o2b3o$60bo6bo4bo
38bobobo6bobobo$111bobob2o4b2obobo$3b3o12b3o90bo3b8o3bo$55b3o12b3o39b
3o3b2o3b3o$5bo12bo93b3o8b3o$5b2o10b2o38bo12bo$5b2o10b2o38b2o10b2o$57b
2o10b2o!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Hunting » December 7th, 2020, 11:32 pm

JP21 wrote:
December 7th, 2020, 6:54 pm
Just one "dothe" eater:

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x = 136, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
74bo$73bobo$73bobo$72b2ob3o$o9bo2bo9bo32b2o20bo$3o5b3o2b3o5b3o32b2o14b
2ob3o$3bo3bo8bo3bo51b2obo$2b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o5$118b2o$118bobo9bo$80b2o34b
obob3o5b3o$80bo35b2o5bo3bo$78bobo41b2o3b2o$78b2o3$4b3o10b3o$56b3o10b3o
39b3o10b3o$4bobo10bobo$5bo12bo37bobo10bobo39bobo10bobo$57bo12bo41bo12b
o8b2o$6b2ob6ob2o116b2o$58b2ob6ob2o43b2ob6ob2o5b2o$7bo2bo2bo2bo113b2o$
59bo2bo2bo2bo36b2o7bo2bo2bo2bo$8b8o88bobo$11b2o47b8o36bo10b8o$8b2o4b2o
47b2o38b2o13b2o$60b2o4b2o47b2o4b2o7b2o$130bobo$115bo6bo9bo$7b2o6b2o98b
o6bo9b2o$6bobo6bobo41b2o6b2o46b2o4b2o$6bo2bo4bo2bo40bobo6bobo46b2o2b2o
$7b2o6b2o41bo2bo4bo2bo46b2o2b2o$8bo6bo43b2o6b2o3bo42b3o2b3o$60bo6bo4bo
38bobobo6bobobo$111bobob2o4b2obobo$3b3o12b3o90bo3b8o3bo$55b3o12b3o39b
3o3b2o3b3o$5bo12bo93b3o8b3o$5b2o10b2o38bo12bo$5b2o10b2o38b2o10b2o$57b
2o10b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 8th, 2020, 6:43 am

Seal-to-G:
(Also, seal-to-H, of course)

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x = 181, y = 164, rule = B3/S23
84bo$83bobo9bo$83bobo7b3o$81b3ob2o5bo$80bo11b2o$81b3ob2o$83bob2o3$91b
2o3b2o$91b2o3b2o4$101bo$100bobo$101bo7$47b2o34b2o$48bo15b2o17b2o$47bo
16b2o$47b2o4$71b2o$51bo2b2o15b2o$49b3obobobo35b2o$43b2o4bo2b3o2b2o34bo
$43b2o3bo2b6obob3o31b3o$49bo2b3obob5o33bo$54bobobobo$48bobo3bobob5o$
48bo2bobo2bob2o3bo$51bo2b2o7b3o$44b2o3bo3b5ob3o2b2o$43bobo6bo9bo23b2o$
43bo6bobo9bo23bo$9b2o31b2o8b2ob5o3bo23b3o$9b2o32bobo8bob3o2bo5b2o20bo$
31bo10bo2b3o6bo2bo3bob3ob2o$29b3o10b2o4bo7b2o3b3obo2bo3bo$28bo18b2o7b
2o4b2ob4o3b3o$28b2o37bobo2bo$61bobo5b2o2b2o$61bo2bo5bob3o5bo$61bo3bo4b
2o2bo3bo2bo$63b3o5b2o8bo$63bobo2bo2bo5b2o2bo$65bo2b2ob2obo2bo$38b2o24b
o7bobo$38b2o25bo3b4o$66bo3bo$2o$2o69bo$51b2o17bobo$51bo17b2o$41b2o9b3o
14bobo$21b2o19bo11bo14b2o$21bobo18bobo26bo$23bo19b2o25bo$23b2o63$149b
2o$148b3ob3o$150bo3b2o$147b2ob2o2bo2bobo$147bo6bob4o$153b2obo2bo$147bo
4b2o3bob2o$147b2o8bobo2bo$147bo2b5ob3o4bo$148bo9bo4bo$148b2obo2bo3bo3b
o$149bo9b2o$156b2o2b2o4bo$149bo3b2obo4b3o2bo$150b2obob5o5bob2o$154b2ob
2ob2ob2o2b3o$164bobo4bo$155b2o4bobo3b6o$160bo7b2o$160bo3bo$160bo4bo3b
3o6bo$161b5o3b2ob2o2b2ob2o$164b2obo2bob2o2bo$163b2o5bo4bo2b3o$162b3obo
bobobo$169bo2bo$165bobo$166bo2$168b3o$168b3o2$167b2o$167b2o$168bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » December 8th, 2020, 6:54 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:43 am
Seal-to-G:
(Also, seal-to-H, of course)

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snip
It appears that your repeat time is significantly off -- the glider from the boojum reflector should delete the offending block before the next seal comes in, if I'm not mistaken.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » December 8th, 2020, 9:47 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:54 am
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:43 am
Seal-to-G:
(Also, seal-to-H, of course)

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snip
It appears that your repeat time is significantly off -- the glider from the boojum reflector should delete the offending block before the next seal comes in, if I'm not mistaken.
Actually it does that deletion just fine, just before the second seal arrives. The problem is a block created by the left-side circuitry, that never gets deleted at all. Looks like it can be shot down with an edgeshooter easily enough, but that will radically increase the safe repeat time.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by MathAndCode » December 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm

dvgrn wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 9:47 am
Actually it does that deletion just fine, just before the second seal arrives. The problem is a block created by the left-side circuitry, that never gets deleted at all. Looks like it can be shot down with an edgeshooter easily enough, but that will radically increase the safe repeat time.
That's just a Herschel's first natural block. It can be suppressed with any SW-2 conduit that fits. Here's one example.

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x = 61, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
42bo$41bobo9bo$41bobo7b3o$39b3ob2o5bo$38bo11b2o$39b3ob2o$41bob2o3$49b
2o3b2o$49b2o3b2o4$59bo$58bobo$59bo7$5b2o34b2o$6bo15b2o17b2o$5bo16b2o$
5b2o4$29b2o$29b2o$51b2o$b2o48bo$b2o49b3o$54bo$14bo2b2o$12b3obobobo$12b
o2b3o2b2o$11bo2b6obob3o$2b2o8bo2b3obob5o$bobo13bobobobo20b2o$bo9bobo3b
obob5o18bo$2o9bo2bobo2bob2o3bo18b3o$14bo2b2o7b3o18bo$12bo3b5ob3o2b2o$
15bo9bo$13bobo9bo$15b2ob5o3bo$17bob3o2bo5b2o$17bo2bo3bob3ob2o$19b2o3b
3obo2bo3bo$10b2o7b2o4b2ob4o3b3o$10b2o18bobo2bo$24bobo5b2o2b2o$24bo2bo
5bob3o5bo$24bo3bo4b2o2bo3bo2bo$26b3o5b2o8bo$26bobo2bo2bo5b2o2bo$14b2o
12bo2b2ob2obo2bo$14b2o11bo7bobo$28bo3b4o$29bo3bo2$34bo$33bobo$32b2o$32b
obo$32b2o$34bo$33bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by goldenratio » December 8th, 2020, 3:42 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm
That's just a Herschel's first natural block. It can be suppressed with any SW-2 conduit that fits. Here's one example.

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x = 61, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
42bo$41bobo9bo$41bobo7b3o$39b3ob2o5bo$38bo11b2o$39b3ob2o$41bob2o3$49b
2o3b2o$49b2o3b2o4$59bo$58bobo$59bo7$5b2o34b2o$6bo15b2o17b2o$5bo16b2o$
5b2o4$29b2o$29b2o$51b2o$b2o48bo$b2o49b3o$54bo$14bo2b2o$12b3obobobo$12b
o2b3o2b2o$11bo2b6obob3o$2b2o8bo2b3obob5o$bobo13bobobobo20b2o$bo9bobo3b
obob5o18bo$2o9bo2bobo2bob2o3bo18b3o$14bo2b2o7b3o18bo$12bo3b5ob3o2b2o$
15bo9bo$13bobo9bo$15b2ob5o3bo$17bob3o2bo5b2o$17bo2bo3bob3ob2o$19b2o3b
3obo2bo3bo$10b2o7b2o4b2ob4o3b3o$10b2o18bobo2bo$24bobo5b2o2b2o$24bo2bo
5bob3o5bo$24bo3bo4b2o2bo3bo2bo$26b3o5b2o8bo$26bobo2bo2bo5b2o2bo$14b2o
12bo2b2ob2obo2bo$14b2o11bo7bobo$28bo3b4o$29bo3bo2$34bo$33bobo$32b2o$32b
obo$32b2o$34bo$33bo!
Yes, but we want a seal-to-glider converter, not a seal eater, which we already have.
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » December 8th, 2020, 4:20 pm

goldenratio wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 3:42 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm
That's just a Herschel's first natural block. It can be suppressed with any SW-2 conduit that fits. Here's one example...
Yes, but we want a seal-to-glider converter, not a seal eater, which we already have.
Let's see, that's fixable if we replace the boojum reflector with something that has an output, like the old glider stopper. Repeat time 633:

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x = 152, y = 216, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$57.A2.A$58.2A8$53.3D$54.D$54.3D8$72.2A$72.A$53.2A15.A.A$53.2A
15.2A11$73.A$52.2A7.3D4.2A2.A.A$15.A35.A.A8.D5.A.A2.A.A$15.3A33.A8.3D
8.2A2.A$18.A31.2A20.A.A$17.2A50.A2.A.2A$68.A.A.A$69.A2.4A$9.2A59.2A3.
A$9.A63.A$6.2A.A60.2A.2A$6.A2.3A4.2A2.D49.2A$7.2A3.A3.2A2.D.D50.2A$9.
4A7.2D21.A18.2A10.A$9.A15.2A16.3A7.2A7.2A9.A$10.3A12.A.A18.A7.A18.2A$
13.A13.A17.2A7.A.A$8.5A14.2A26.2A4.3D$8.A54.D$10.A51.D$9.2A$75.2A$75.
2A5$60.A$59.A.A$59.A.A$5.2A34.2A17.A$6.A15.2A17.2A14.3A$5.A16.2A33.A$
5.2A3$39.D$29.2A7.D.D$29.2A7.D.D$39.D11.2A$.2A48.A$.2A49.3A$54.A$14.A
2.2A$12.3A.A.A.A$12.A2.3A2.2A$11.A2.6A.A.3A$2.2A8.A2.3A.A.5A$.A.A13.A
.A.A.A20.2A$.A9.A.A3.A.A.5A18.A$2A9.A2.A.A2.A.2A3.A18.3A$14.A2.2A7.3A
18.A$12.A3.5A.3A2.2A$15.A9.A$13.A.A9.A$15.2A.5A3.A$17.A.3A2.A5.2A$17.
A2.A3.A.3A.2A$19.2A3.3A.A2.A3.A$10.2A7.2A4.2A.4A3.3A$10.2A18.A.A2.A$
24.A.A5.2A2.2A$24.A2.A5.A.3A5.A$24.A3.A4.2A2.A3.A2.A$26.3A5.2A8.A$26.
A.A2.A2.A5.2A2.A$14.2A12.A2.2A.2A.A2.A$14.2A11.A7.A.A$28.A3.4A$29.A3.
A2$34.A$33.A.A$32.2A$32.A.A$32.2A$34.A$33.A71$120.A2.2A$118.2A.A4.A$
118.A4.A4.A$117.2A.A3.2A$119.3A5.3A$118.4A2.A.A2.A$117.A.5A.2A3.2A$
117.2A.A4.2A2.A$120.5A.A2.2A.2A$118.2A6.A2.5A$119.6A4.2A$121.A.2A.A2.
A$120.4A2.A$120.2A.A2.A3.3A2.3A$120.2A.A3.2A3.2A$124.2A3.A.3A.A2.2A$
125.2A4.A4.A.A2.A$125.2A4.3A3.4A.A$133.A9.A$130.2A.2A$130.4A5.2A$134.
2A4.A.A4.3A$135.3A4.2A2.2A.A.A$137.4A.A2.A2.A.A$132.3A.A.A.3A3.A$133.
A.2A$133.A.3A2.2A3$139.2A$137.A.A2$136.A$137.3A!
That particular implementation slows down the repeat time by a few more ticks beyond what was originally advertised, but a working seal-to-H is technically better than a non-working one -- and probably there's lots of room for improvement.

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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by MathAndCode » December 8th, 2020, 4:49 pm

goldenratio wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 3:42 pm
Yes, but we want a seal-to-glider converter, not a seal eater, which we already have.
I can get another B, which is probably helpful.

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x = 81, y = 91, rule = B3/S23
62bo$61bobo9bo$61bobo7b3o$59b3ob2o5bo$58bo11b2o$59b3ob2o$61bob2o3$69b
2o3b2o$69b2o3b2o4$79bo$78bobo$79bo7$61b2o$61b2o6$49b2o$49b2o$71b2o$71b
o$72b3o$74bo5$32bo$21b2o7b3o31b2o$21b2o6bo34bo$5b2o22b2o34b3o$6bo60bo
$5bo$5b2o7$b2o$b2o2$14bo2b2o$12b3obobobo$12bo2b3o2b2o$11bo2b6obob3o$2b
2o8bo2b3obob5o$bobo13bobobobo$bo9bobo3bobob5o$2o9bo2bobo2bob2o3bo$14b
o2b2o7b3o$12bo3b5ob3o2b2o$15bo9bo$13bobo9bo$15b2ob5o3bo$5bo11bob3o2bo
5b2o$4bobo10bo2bo3bob3ob2o$4b2o13b2o3b3obo2bo3bo$19b2o4b2ob4o3b3o$4b2o
24bobo2bo$4bobo17bobo5b2o2b2o$5bo18bo2bo5bob3o5bo$24bo3bo4b2o2bo3bo2b
o$26b3o5b2o8bo$26bobo2bo2bo5b2o2bo$28bo2b2ob2obo2bo$27bo7bobo$28bo3b4o
$29bo3bo2$34bo$33bobo$32b2o$32bobo$32b2o$34bo$33bo!
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by calcyman » December 8th, 2020, 4:51 pm

dvgrn wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 4:20 pm
Repeat time 633:
Repeat time 590 (and very Spartan as well!) by using the old 487-tick reflector:

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x = 178, y = 256, rule = LifeHistory
21.2A23.4B$22.A22.4B$22.A.AB18.4B$23.2AB.2A14.4B19.A$25.2B2AB12.4B.3B
.B12.3A$25.4B6.18B10.A$25.6B3.16B2A2B5.B3.2A14.2A$26.6B2.16B2A2B3.8B
13.B2AB$26.7B.20B.8B16.2B$25.38B17.2B3.B$B23.20B2.2B.15B15.4B.B2A$2B
21.18B8.17B11.8B2A$3B20.16B11.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$4B20.14B12.31B2A$.4B
18.16B12.7B.24B$2.4B15.2AB.14B11.37B$3.4B13.A.AB.6B3.3B.B2A8.38B$4.4B
12.A4.6B7.BA.A8.8B2.26B2A$B4.4B10.2A4.7B9.A8.6B11.4B.14B2A$2B4.4B15.
8B2.2A4.2A8.5B12.4B2.11B.B$3B4.4B12.12BA.A13.4B14.4B2.10B$4B4.4B11.
11B3.A11.B.4B15.14B$.4B4.4B10.5B2A4B3.2A9.6B17.14B$2.4B4.4B9.5B2A3B
14.7B17.13B$3.4B4.4B8.10B13.4B.B19.13B$4.4B4.4B7.9B13.4B22.8B.2B$5.4B
4.4B6.9B12.4B23.8B$6.4B4.4B6.8B11.4B24.9B$7.4B4.4B4.8B11.4B25.10B$8.
4B4.4B4.6B11.4B25.7B.4B$9.4B4.4B3.6B10.4B25.8B2.4B$10.4B4.4B2.6B9.4B
25.8B4.4B$11.4B4.4B.7B7.4B26.8B5.4B$12.4B4.4B.6B6.4B25.2AB2.6B5.4B$
13.4B4.9B6.4B25.A.AB.7B6.4B$14.4B4.8B5.4B26.A4.6B8.4B$15.4B4.8B3.4B
26.2A4.6B9.4B$16.4B4.7B2.4B33.6B10.4B$17.4B4.6B.4B33.8B10.4B$18.4B3.
10B35.8B10.4B$6.2A11.4B2.9B24.A10.9B11.4B$7.A12.4B.8B.3B19.3A10.9B12.
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by dvgrn » December 8th, 2020, 6:38 pm

calcyman wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 4:51 pm
Repeat time 590 (and very Spartan as well!) by using the old 487-tick reflector...
Great, now all we need is a glider-to-seal converter, and we can start using this in self-constructing circuitry..!

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Post by otismo » December 9th, 2020, 11:05 am

and you could call it a four-burp destructive heisenburp...
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Re: Spaceship Eaters

Post by bubblegum » December 9th, 2020, 12:51 pm

otismo wrote:
December 9th, 2020, 11:05 am
and you could call it a four-burp destructive heisenburp...
don't know what the 4 means but a destructive heisenburp is a converter
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