Spaceship Discussion Thread
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Not to open another knightship can of worms, but has anyone looked at the possibility of knightgreyships? Are there any known edges that build, or eat, stripes agar at (2,1)c/something?
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
@rokicki: That's a very nice partial.
On a more serious note, I can't recall any knight wise grey ship components being posted, though there have been a few higher period components found (like this c/6 erosion component and Hartmut has found some 2c/6 against the grain components, but not been able to complete a ship). There are surely (2,1)c/6 components to extend, and probably consume the stripes agar, but finding the corners to hold it together when we can't even find a single (2,1)c/6 elementary ship? Phew, the mind boggles.
@dvgrn: Has your account been hijacked by one of the forum's more enthusiastic members? The one's whose fanciful requests you are normally trying to gently bring back to reality with sensible expectations of what is feasible with current search technology.dvgrn wrote:Not to open another knightship can of worms, but has anyone looked at the possibility of knightgreyships? Are there any known edges that build, or eat, stripes agar at (2,1)c/something?
On a more serious note, I can't recall any knight wise grey ship components being posted, though there have been a few higher period components found (like this c/6 erosion component and Hartmut has found some 2c/6 against the grain components, but not been able to complete a ship). There are surely (2,1)c/6 components to extend, and probably consume the stripes agar, but finding the corners to hold it together when we can't even find a single (2,1)c/6 elementary ship? Phew, the mind boggles.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
C/8 diagonal partial, searched up to w6 with gfind in all symmetries, how much has been previously searched?
Infinitely extensible C/5, I don't know if it is known:
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x = 28, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
5$17bo2$16bo2$13bob2o$22bo$12b3o5bo$13bob4obo$17bo$9bo4bo$8bobo3bo2bo$
11bo4b2o$11bo2bo$8bo2bob2o$5bo2bobo$3bo2bobo$4b2o2b2o$4bobob2o$5b2obo$
6b2o!
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x = 37, y = 350, rule = B3/S23
2$18b2o$18b2o$16bob2obo$14b3o4b3o$11b2o12b2o$11b2o2bob4obo2b2o$15bobo
2bobo2$14b2o6b2o$11b6o4b6o$11bobo10bobo$11bob2o8b2obo$11bob2o8b2obo$
10b2ob2o8b2ob2o$10b2obo10bob2o$11bobo10bobo$13bo2b2o2b2o2bo$12bo4bo2bo
4bo$18b2o$17bo2bo2$13b4o4b4o$10b3o2b2ob2ob2o2b3o$12bo5b2o5bo$10b2obob
3o2b3obob2o$12b3o3b2o3b3o$12bo12bo$14b2o2b2o2b2o$14b10o$14bob2o2b2obo$
16bo4bo$17bo2bo$15bobo2bobo$14b2ob4ob2o$14b2ob4ob2o$15bo6bo$14b3o4b3o$
12bobo8bobo$11bo14bo$11b2ob2o6b2ob2o$14b2o6b2o$13b2ob6ob2o$11b2obo8bob
2o$15bo6bo3$15b8o$15b2o4b2o$15b3o2b3o$16bo4bo$15b3o2b3o$15bo2b2o2bo$
15bo2b2o2bo$15bo6bo2$14b2obo2bob2o$16b2o2b2o2$13b2o8b2o$13b2obo4bob2o$
12bob4o2b4obo$12b2o10b2o$12bo5b2o5bo$12bo12bo$12bo3bo4bo3bo$13b3o2b2o
2b3o$15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$10b3ob2o6b2ob3o$11bob2o8b2obo$16b6o$16b2o2b2o
$12bo12bo$12b3o3b2o3b3o$11b2o12b2o$15b2o4b2o$15bobo2bobo$17bo2bo$15bo
2b2o2bo$16b2o2b2o$16bo4bo$12bobo8bobo$10b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o$10b2o2b3o4b3o
2b2o$14b2o6b2o$14b2o6b2o$14b2o2b2o2b2o$13b3o2b2o2b3o$17bo2bo$15bo6bo$
16bo4bo$15bo6bo$17bo2bo$17b4o$18b2o$16b2o2b2o3$16b2o2b2o$15bo2b2o2bo$
16b2o2b2o$16bo4bo$12bobo8bobo$11bo2bo8bo2bo$12bobo8bobo$17bo2bo$13bo2b
2o2b2o2bo$12bobo3b2o3bobo$11b2o4bo2bo4b2o$17b4o$10bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$11bo
4b2o2b2o4bo$11bo4b6o4bo$17bo2bo$13bo4b2o4bo$12b2o2bo4bo2b2o$11bo4bo4bo
4bo$16bo4bo$17b4o$13bobo6bobo$12bobob2o2b2obobo$12bobob6obobo$11b6ob2o
b6o$15b2o4b2o$11b2ob2o6b2ob2o$11b2o12b2o$11b2o5b2o5b2o$17bo2bo$17bo2bo
2$15b2o4b2o$14bo2bo2bo2bo$16b6o$13b3o2b2o2b3o$14bo8bo$16b2o2b2o$15bo6b
o$15bo6bo$17bo2bo$11bo4bo4bo4bo$10bobo2b2o4b2o2bobo2$10b2obo2b2o2b2o2b
ob2o$17b4o$13bobobo2bobobo$13b4o4b4o$15bo6bo$18b2o$18b2o2$15b2o4b2o$
15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$13bo2bo4bo2bo$12bo5b2o5bo$13bo4b2o4bo$18b2o$15bo6b
o$15b2o4b2o2$17bo2bo$10b3obo8bob3o$11bo3bobo2bobo3bo$11bobob3o2b3obobo
$13b3obo2bob3o$12b2o10b2o$15bo6bo2$17b4o$18b2o2$15b2o4b2o$14bo2bo2bo2b
o$14bo2b4o2bo$13b3o6b3o2$17bo2bo$16b6o$15b3o2b3o$17bo2bo$15b2o4b2o$10b
3o12b3o$10b3o3bo4bo3b3o$11bob2o2bo2bo2b2obo$17bo2bo$12b2obobo2bobob2o$
14b3o4b3o2$18b2o$17bo2bo2$16bo4bo$15b2o4b2o2$13bo2bo4bo2bo$13b4o4b4o$
13b2ob6ob2o$15b2o4b2o$15bo6bo$16bo4bo$16bo4bo$11bo3b3o2b3o3bo$11bo3b2o
4b2o3bo$10bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo$16b2o2b2o$12bobo8bobo$13bobobo2bobobo$
13bo10bo$15b2o4b2o$18b2o$18b2o2$15b2o4b2o$14bo2bo2bo2bo$14bo2bo2bo2bo$
15b3o2b3o$12b2o3b4o3b2o$17bo2bo$18b2o$15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$16bo4bo$11bo
14bo$10b3o3bo4bo3b3o$13bobobo2bobobo$13bo3b4o3bo$15bobo2bobo$12b2ob2o
4b2ob2o2$18b2o$17bo2bo$17bo2bo2$15b2o4b2o$14bo2bo2bo2bo$16b6o$13b3o2b
2o2b3o$14bo8bo$16b2o2b2o$15bo6bo$15bo6bo$17bo2bo$11bo4bo4bo4bo$10bobo
2b2o4b2o2bobo2$10b2obo2b2o2b2o2bob2o$17b4o$13bobobo2bobobo$13b4o4b4o$
15bo6bo$18b2o$18b2o2$15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$13bo2bo4bo2bo$12bo
5b2o5bo$13bo4b2o4bo$18b2o$15bo6bo$15b2o4b2o2$17bo2bo$10b3obo8bob3o$11b
o3bobo2bobo3bo$11bobob3o2b3obobo$13b3obo2bob3o$12b2o10b2o$15bo6bo2$17b
4o$18b2o2$15b2o4b2o$14bo2bo2bo2bo$14bo2b4o2bo$13b3o6b3o2$17bo2bo$16b6o
$15b3o2b3o$17bo2bo$15b2o4b2o$10b3o12b3o$10b3o3bo4bo3b3o$11bob2o2bo2bo
2b2obo$17bo2bo$12b2obobo2bobob2o$14b3o4b3o2$18b2o$17bo2bo2$16bo4bo$15b
2o4b2o2$13bo2bo4bo2bo$13b4o4b4o$13b2ob6ob2o$15b2o4b2o$15bo6bo$16bo4bo$
16bo4bo$11bo3b3o2b3o3bo$11bo3b2o4b2o3bo$10bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo$16b2o2b
2o$12bobo8bobo$13bobobo2bobobo$13bo10bo$15b2o4b2o$18b2o$18b2o2$15b2o4b
2o$14bo2bo2bo2bo$14bo2bo2bo2bo$15b3o2b3o$12b2o3b4o3b2o$17bo2bo$18b2o$
15b2o4b2o$15b2o4b2o$16bo4bo$11bo14bo$10b3o3bo4bo3b3o$13bobobo2bobobo$
13bo3b4o3bo$15bobo2bobo$12b2ob2o4b2ob2o2$18b2o$17bo2bo$17bo2bo!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
As far as I know there has been very little searching done for a c/8 diagonal ship. I should point out that WLS and JLS are faster than gfind for diagonallyshaped searches. Searches for short, wide ships might also be useful. Sometimes you can find a short, wide component and use that as the wings of a long, skinny core. This is how 56P6H1V0 and lobster were found.AforAmpere wrote:searched up to w6 with gfind in all symmetries, how much has been previously searched?
This is known, and can be found in my moving object collection. This particular component is in velocityc5o/shipsc5owidth18.rle. In fact, every possible c/5 orthogonal width18 bilaterallysymmetric spaceship can be constructed using components from that collection. This was shown by Tim Coe using his Knightt program.AforAmpere wrote:Infinitely extensible C/5, I don't know if it is known
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
My WLS says it can't output to a file for some reason. I wanted it to output long partials, but it says it cannot create the file.
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
This works fine for me. Is WLS perhaps installed to a location which needs Administrator rights to modify files? Or perhaps the output file already exists and is open in another program?AforAmpere wrote:My WLS says it can't output to a file for some reason. I wanted it to output long partials, but it says it cannot create the file.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
3c/10 w9 g is negative with zfinds. Not promising results either, as the longest partial was somewhere around length 300.
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Could you post a long partial?

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Sorry, I didn't see this, here:HartmutHolzwart wrote:Could you post a long partial?
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x = 48, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
4bo9bo20bo5bo$3b2o9b2o19bo5bo$3bob2o5b2obo17b2obo3bob2o$6b2o3b2o$7b2ob
2o21bo9bo$35bo5bo$2b3ob2o3b2ob3o14b3o2bo3bo2b3o$2b3ob2o3b2ob3o14b5obob
ob5o$2bo2b3o3b3o2bo15b2o3bobo3b2o$3b2o9b2o18b2obobob2o$2bobo9bobo20bob
o$b2o4bo3bo4b2o19bobo$4b2obo3bob2o18bo3bobo3bo$7bo3bo21b2o2bobo2b2o$7b
2ob2o22bo2bobo2bo$3bo3b2ob2o3bo19bobobobo$3b2ob3ob3ob2o21bobo$4bob2o3b
2obo16bob2o7b2obo$3bo2b2o3b2o2bo15bob2ob2ob2ob2obo$6b2o3b2o19b2o9b2o$
2b3obo5bob3o19bo3bo$bo2bo9bo2bo$o2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo12b3o3bobo3b3o$bobo
3b2ob2o3bobo14b2o2b2ob2o2b2o$2bo3bobobobo3bo$2b3o3bobo3b3o$3bobo2bobo
2bobo16b4o5b4o$o2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo12b6o3b6o$obo2b2o5b2o2bobo18bobo$4b2o
7b2o14b2o2bo9bo2b2o$3bo11bo18b2o5b2o$2b2o3bo3bo3b2o13b4o9b4o$2b3ob3ob
3ob3o16bo2b2ob2o2bo$30b4o2b2ob2o2b4o!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
I just completed a search for asymmetric width11 spaceships at 2c/7 and the search completed with no results.
The longest partial reported is pretty long:
Total runtime was a little over two CPU days (but it completed overnight due to
multithreading).
I've also run width4 searches through p20, width5 searches through p15, width6
searches through p12, and width7 searches through p10, in four symmetries
(asymmetric, even, odd, and gutter), where the speed is k/p and gcd(k,p)=1 and
k<2*p, with no new results.
The longest partial reported is pretty long:
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x = 11, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$7bob2o$5b3ob2o$4b3o$4bob2o$4bo2b2o$5bob2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo$4bo
2b2o$2bob2ob2o$bo3bo$bo3b2o$7bo2$5b3o$2b3obobo$2b2o2b2obo$4bobo$6bo3bo
$3bo$3b2ob2obo$4bo$7b2o$3o3b3o2$3bo3b2o$4bobo$2b2o2bo$2b3ob3o$2b3o$2bo
2bob2o$bo2bob3o$5bo2bo$2b3o$4bo3bo$b5ob2o$b5o2bo$3bo2bobo$b2o3b3o$3bo
5b2o$2o7b2o$3bo5bo$2b4o3bo!
multithreading).
I've also run width4 searches through p20, width5 searches through p15, width6
searches through p12, and width7 searches through p10, in four symmetries
(asymmetric, even, odd, and gutter), where the speed is k/p and gcd(k,p)=1 and
k<2*p, with no new results.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
5c/11 w10 a is negative (I know, really surprising), longest partial:
5c/11 w9 v, u and g are also negative, longest partials:
EDIT, 5c/11 w10 u is negative as well.
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x = 10, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$3b2ob2o$3bo$b2o$b2o$3o4bo$b2ob3o$b2obobo$b2obo2b2o$6b3o$4bo
2bo$2b2o2b2o$bobobo2b2o$8b2o$bo6bo$b2o5bo$3bobob2o$5b2ob2o!
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x = 52, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
3bo9bo25bo5bo$2bobo7bobo23bobo3bobo$b2ob2o5b2ob2o21bo3bobo3bo$2bo2bo5b
o2bo22bo9bo$3b3o5b3o23bobobobobobo$3b2o7b2o27bobo$38bo7bo$b2o11b2o23b
2o3b2o$6b2ob2o25bo3bo3bo3bo$7bobo24b3o11b3o$4b2obobob2o22bobo9bobo$4bo
2bobo2bo23b4o5b4o$b2obo2bobo2bob2o20bo2bo5bo2bo$bo4b2ob2o4bo21bo2bo3bo
2bo$bo13bo19b2ob2o5b2ob2o$3b2obo3bob2o$3bo9bo$4bo3bo3bo20b2o3b2o5b2o3b
2o$b5obobob5o22b2o5b2o$2obo9bob2o17bobob2o5b2obobo$34b3ob2o5b2ob3o!
Last edited by AforAmpere on March 3rd, 2018, 11:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
For width 11, 3c/8, even, odd, gutter, and asymmetric are all negative.
For width 11, 4c/9 even, odd, gutter, and asymmetric are all negative.
Longest partial among all of these is this 4c/9.
I believe both of these are just confirming earlier results from knight2.
For width 11, 4c/9 even, odd, gutter, and asymmetric are all negative.
Longest partial among all of these is this 4c/9.
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x = 20, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
5bo8bo$4bobo6bobo$3bo3bo4bo3bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo$2bobobobo2bobobobo$6b3o2b
3o$b5obob2obob5o$3b3obob2obob3o$6b3o2b3o$7bo4bo2$4b3o6b3o$3bo2b2o4b2o
2bo$2bo2b2obo2bob2o2bo$3bo2b2o4b2o2bo$3bo12bo$7bob2obo$4bo2bob2obo2bo$
4b3o2b2o2b3o$2b2o12b2o$2bo3bo6bo3bo$2b3ob2o4b2ob3o$3bobobob2obobobo$3b
3o8b3o$3bob2o6b2obo$2b2o12b2o$2b2o2bo6bo2b2o$2b2o3b6o3b2o$b3o12b3o2$bo
b5o4b5obo$2obob2o6b2obob2o$2obob2o6b2obob2o$o5bo6bo5bo$4b2o8b2o$o2bo3b
o4bo3bo2bo$2o2bobo6bobo2b2o$b2ob3ob4ob3ob2o$bobobo3b2o3bobobo$2o6bo2bo
6b2o$o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bo$b2o14b2o!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
5c/11 is negative at w10 for all symmetries, longest from all:
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...o............o...
..o.o..........o.o..
.oo.oo........oo.oo.
.....o........o.....
......oo....oo......
......oo....oo......
..o...oo....oo...o..
..o..............o..
..o..o........o..o..
....ooo......ooo....
......o......o......
.......o....o.......
.....oo......oo.....
..oo...o....o...oo..
.o.oo...oooo...oo.o.
.o...o..oooo..o...o.
..oooo........oooo..
.oo.oo........oo.oo.
.o.o............o.o.
o..o.o........o.o..o
......oo....oo......
..oo...o....o...oo..
.....o.o....o.o.....
.ooo..o......o..ooo.
o.o...oo....oo...o.o
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
w6 p13 k2 u l3000 returned a negative result unsurprisingly, but it did find these lovely partials:
Will try a higher width
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x = 110, y = 26, rule = Life
5bo16bo16bo16bo16bo15bo14bo$4bobo15bo16bo14bo3bo14bo15bo12bo3bo$22bo
16bo14bo3bo14bo13bobobo9bo5bo$2bobobobo10bob3obo10bob3obo10bo2bo2bo25b
2o5b2o7bo5bo$ob2obob2obo8b7o10b7o10b2o3b2o11bo3bo9b2o5b2o7bo5bo$19bo5b
o10bo5bo26b3obob3o24b2ob2o$4b3o13b2ob2o12b2ob2o14bo16bo29bobo$bo3bo3bo
9bobobobo10bobobobo11b2ob2o10bo7bo8b2obob2o10b3o$2bo2bo2bo9bo2bobo2bo
8bo2bobo2bo10bo3bo12b5o9b2ob3ob2o7b2o3b2o$2bo2bo2bo9bobo3bobo8bobo3bob
o8b2o2bo2b2o24b2ob3ob2o7b2o3b2o$b3obob3o7bo2bobobo2bo6bo2bobobo2bo6b3o
5b3o8b3ob3o8bo7bo6bobo3bobo$18bo2bobo2bo8bo2bobo2bo11b3o12bo2bo2bo23bo
3bo3bo$2b3ob3o47bo14b2ob2o9bo7bo8bo3bo$bo7bo9bobobobo10bobobobo10b2o3b
2o12bobo10b3o3b3o6bo7bo$bob2ob2obo9bo5bo10bo5bo8b2ob5ob2o7b2obobob2o7b
obo3bobo5b3o2bo2b3o$bo7bo9b2obob2o10b2obob2o9bo7bo11bobo10bobo3bobo7b
3ob3o$19b2obob2o10b2obob2o10b7o9b2o5b2o6b2o7b2o6b3ob3o$19b2o3b2o10bo5b
o10b2o3b2o9bo2bobo2bo9b2ob2o$2o2b3o2b2o7bo3bo3bo9bobobobo11bobobo10bob
obobobo9b5o$bobo3bobo11b3o10b2ob2ob2ob2o23bo3b3o3bo6b2o5b2o$2b7o8bob7o
bo6b2o7b2o28bo$bo7bo8b9o12bo$2o7b2o$2o7b2o$2bo2bo2bo$bob2ob2obo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
w10 c1/8 asymmetric is negative, and surprisingly never found any partial
longer than 32! And it took 20 CPU days. w11 c1/8 is finding partials (so far)
of length 203 (this translates to 208/8 actual rows in a generation).
Here's one:
longer than 32! And it took 20 CPU days. w11 c1/8 is finding partials (so far)
of length 203 (this translates to 208/8 actual rows in a generation).
Here's one:
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x = 10, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$5b4o$2b5o$b4o4bo$bo4bo$4b3o$4b2ob3o$7b2o$3b2ob2o$b3ob2o$ob2ob2o$o
$4o$o3b4o$b3ob3o$b3obo$4bo2bo$5bo2bo$3o5bo$o2b2o$4o2bo$2bob4o$2bo3b2o$
2b4o3bo$2bo2bo3bo$b2obob2o!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Weird flotilla:
known?
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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2bobo3b2o2bobo$3bo4b3o2bo$3b2o3b3ob2o$4bo3b2o2bo$4b2o2b2ob2o$4b
2o2b2ob2o$8b2o$6bo2b2o$7bob2o$3bo4b2o2bobo$2bo4bo3bo$3bo2bo4bo2b
o$3b2o6b3o$5bo$8b2o$obo5b3obobo$3bo4b3o4bo$3bo4b3o4bo$o2bo4b3obo
2bo$b3o4b3o2b3o$7bob2o$7b3o$8bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Owing to recent discoveries, has anyone tried looking for a (2,1)c/7 yet?
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
I'm running a 6 core search for a (2,1)c/7 spaceship on a gaming computer.muzik wrote:Owing to recent discoveries, has anyone tried looking for a (2,1)c/7 yet?
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Here's my best partial so far:
Another slightly longer partial:
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x = 29, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2b2o$b3o$2o2bobo$3b3o2bo$8b2o$5bo4b2obobobo$2b4ob2o6bobo$8bo3bo4bo
$15b2o$9b7o$8b2o$8b2o2b5ob3o$8b4o2b4o$12bo8bo$12b3ob2ob2o$14b2o3b7o$
15bobo3bo4bo$15bobo3bo2bo$26bo$23b3o$24b3obo$26bo!
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x = 28, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
b2o$ob2o$3o$b5o$5b3obo$5b2o2b2o$5b2o$5bo5b2o$5bo5bob2o$6bob2o4bo$6bo2b
5obobo$6b3ob2o$6b2o7bo$13bobo2bo$13b2o3bo$12bo3b2o$11b2o2b2obo$12bo5bo
$11b2obo5b4o$11b2obob6o2bo$17b2o7bo$20b7o$19bo2bo2bobo$18bo$17bo5bobob
o$17bo3b2o2bo$18bo!
Last edited by rokicki on March 14th, 2018, 11:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Useless, but (2,1)c/8 searched up to w9 with zfind 1.6, best partial:
Am I allowed to add results from this thread to the Spaceship Search Status Page?
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...o.....
..o.o....
.oo......
..o...o..
.......o.
...oo.oo.
.....o...
.o.o.....
..ooooo..
..o..o...
...o..o..
....oo...
..o.o....
..oo.....
.....oo..
.......o.
..oooo...
..o....o.
....o...o
.oo.o..oo
..oo.....
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
currently trying to find a smaller head for sir robin's tail, and a (2,1)c/7.
EDIT:
(2,1)c/7 head:
EDIT:
(2,1)c/7 head:
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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$2obo$bob2o$$b2o$b2o$b5o$2o2b2o$2o3bo$o2bo$o2bo2b2o$5b2o$o2bo
2bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
When studying 3glider collision I noticed this TLparent glider collision:
I think it is known, however I have never seen it before. Maybe it can be used to construct a c/8speed spaceship (3c/24 or 6c/48 or higher periods). Any ideas? However, it can turn suitable c/8 rakes into a spaceship.
Maybe something weird knightshiplike could be engineered using 2G collisions which gives the G+TL:
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x = 110, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
2$38bo$38bobo$38b2o4$35bo23bo$35bobo21bobo$35b2o22b2o2$76bo$77bo$32bo
42b3o26bo$32bobo69bobo$32b2o70b2o4$5bo23bo23bo47bo$5bobo21bobo21bobo
45bobo$5b2o22b2o22b2o46b2o2$4bo23bo23bo47bo$3b3o21b3o21b3o45b3o$2bobob
o19bobobo19bobobo43bobobo$b3ob3o17b3ob3o17b3ob3o41b3ob3o$2bobobo19bobo
bo19bobobo43bobobo$3b3o21b3o21b3o45b3o$4bo23bo23bo47bo8$56b2o$56bobo$
56bo10$62b2o$62bobo$62bo!
Maybe something weird knightshiplike could be engineered using 2G collisions which gives the G+TL:
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x = 19, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
18bo$16b2o$17b2o30$6bo$bo3bo$2bo2b3o$3o!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
rokicki, do you have the best partials from the 3c/8 searches on hand? I am compiling a chart of best partials for each speed and symmetry.
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
Here is what I think to be a new C/10 spaceship/pushalong, copperhead based:
It can be extended as well:
Is this known? It seems to be too simple not to be.
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x = 10, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$b2o4b2o$bo2b2o2bo$2b
6o$bobo2bobo$3o4b3o$2o6b2o2$3o4b3o$3o4b3o4$2b2o2b2o$4b2o$4b2o$bobo2bob
o$bo6bo2$bo6bo$2b2o2b2o$3b4o2$4b2o$4b2o!
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x = 19, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
3$7b2o$6b4o2$5b6o$6b4o2$5b2o2b2o$3b2obo2bob2o$6bo2bo3$4b2o4b2o$4bo2b2o
2bo$5b6o$4bobo2bobo$3b3o4b3o$3b2o6b2o2$3b3o4b3o$3b3o4b3o4$5b2o2b2o$7b
2o$7b2o$4bobo2bobo$4bo6bo2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o$6b4o2$3b3o4b3o2$3b2o6b2o$3b
2o6b2o2$4bo6bo$4bobo2bobo2$5b2o2b2o$4bo6bo2$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo$5bo4bo$
5bo4bo$6b4o$5b2o2b2o$5bo4bo$5bo4bo3$6b4o$7b2o!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Nontotalistic rules.
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
It's definitely new  congratulations!AforAmpere wrote:Is this known? It seems to be too simple not to be.
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