The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

[wwei47]

Is this version of RBx22B connectable?

Maybe.

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x = 16, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
14.2A$14.A$2A10.A.A$.A10.2A$.A.A$2.2A2$7.2C$7.2C.A$11.A$5.D2.2D2.A$6.
3D$7.D6$5.3D$7.D$6.3D!

[Extrementhusiast]

PR*91H, not currently able to connect from anything stable that I examined, although not entirely unreasonable, either:

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x = 41, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$19.2A8$2.D$D.D$3D9.2C13.3C$D11.2C13.C.C$27.C.C$34.2A.A$34.2A.3A
$40.A$34.2A.3A$35.A.A$35.A.A$36.A!

EDIT: Whoops, looks like this was known already.

[MathAndCode]

PR*91H, not currently able to connect from anything stable that I examined, although not entirely unreasonable, either:

I have added that to (my draft of) the Elementary Conduits Collection because I'm pretty sure that it's at least connectable with a periodic conduit. Speaking of that, I noticed that one of the G->H conduits has unnecessary still lives.

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x = 103, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
49.4B$50.4B$51.4B$52.4B23.2A$.B51.4B22.A$3B51.4B18.BA.A$4B31.A19.4B
14.2A.B2A$.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$2.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B
$3.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$4.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$5.4B
2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$6.4B3.3B23.38B25.B$7.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$8.9B
19.17B8.18B21.3B$9.3BC5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$10.3BC38B12.14B20.4B
$11.3C29B.7B12.16B18.4B$11.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$9.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B
3.6B.BA.A13.4B$9.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B$8.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.
6B8.A9.7B4.2A10.4B$7.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B$6.A.AB
2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B$6.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.3B14.A3.11B11.4B$5.
2A6.4B6.8B17.4B11.2A3.4B2E5B10.4B$15.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B2E5B9.4B$15.A9.
4B21.A18.10B8.4B$16.3A5.6B21.3A16.9B7.4B$18.A4.8B22.A16.9B6.4B$22.4B
2.4B38.8B6.4B$21.4B4.4B38.8B4.4B$20.4B6.4B38.6B4.4B$19.4B8.4B37.6B3.
4B$18.4B10.4B36.6B2.4B$17.4B12.4B34.7B.4B$16.4B14.4B33.6B.4B$15.4B16.
4B33.9B$14.4B18.4B32.8B$13.4B20.4B30.8B$12.4B22.4B20.A8.7B$11.4B24.4B
19.3A6.6B$10.4B26.4B21.A4.7B$9.4B28.4B19.2A4.7B17.2A$8.4B30.4B18.4B.
8B17.A$7.4B32.4B19.11B14.BA.A$6.4B34.4B17.12B11.2A.B2A$5.4B36.4B16.
12B10.B2A2B$4.4B38.4B15.11B12.4B$3.4B40.4B13.9B13.6B$2.4B42.4B9.2B.
10B.B7.B2.5B2.B$.4B44.4B7.18B3.6B2E2B.B2A$4B46.4B3.30B2E4B2A$3B48.40B
.2B$2B50.39B$B52.39B$54.38B$56.25B2.B.6B$57.19B3.B6.5B$57.20B9.6B$57.
20B9.6B$61.9B2.5B2A7.7B$62.4B3.2B5.A2BA6.2B3D2B$68.B2AB4.ABAB5.3BD4B$
69.2A6.A4B3.2B3D3B$79.3B2.8B$79.4B2.2B2E3B$80.4B.2B2E5B$81.13B$79.16B
$79.17B$79.16B$79.15B$80.13B!

Specifically, one can remove a fishhook, a block, and a loaf, and this allows the Fx119 to be follwed by an independent conduit.

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x = 103, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory
49.4B$50.4B$51.4B$52.4B23.2A$.B51.4B22.A$3B51.4B18.BA.A$4B31.A19.4B14.
2A.B2A$.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$2.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$3.
4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$4.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$5.4B2.7B
21.8B.20B.7B$6.4B3.3B23.38B25.B$7.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$8.9B19.17B
8.18B21.3B$9.3BC5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$10.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$11.3C
29B.7B12.16B18.4B$11.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$9.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.B
A.A13.4B$9.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$8.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.
A9.7B4.2A10.4B4.2B$7.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$6.
A.AB2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$6.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.3B14.A3.11B
11.4B4.4B$5.2A6.4B6.8B17.4B11.2A3.4B2E5B10.4B4.4B$15.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B
2E5B9.4B4.4B$15.A9.4B21.A18.10B8.4B4.4B$16.3A5.6B21.3A16.9B7.4B4.4B$18.
A4.8B22.A16.9B6.4B4.4B$22.4B2.4B38.8B6.4B4.4B$21.4B4.4B38.8B4.4B4.4B$
20.4B6.4B38.6B4.4B4.4B$19.4B8.4B37.6B3.4B4.4B$18.4B10.4B36.6B2.4B4.4B
$17.4B12.4B34.7B.4B4.4B$16.4B14.4B33.6B.4B4.4B$15.4B16.4B33.9B4.4B$14.
4B18.4B32.8B4.4B$13.4B20.4B30.8B4.4B$12.4B22.4B29.7B4.4B$11.4B24.4B28.
6B4.4B$10.4B26.4B26.7B3.4B$9.4B28.4B25.7B2.4B11.2A$8.4B30.4B19.3B.8B.
4B12.A$7.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$6.4B34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$5.4B36.4B7.B
2.20B8.B2A2B$4.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$3.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$2.4B42.4B2.24B5.B
2.5B2.B$.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E2B.B2A$4B46.37B2E4B2A$3B48.40B.2B$2B50.39B$
B52.39B$54.38B$56.25B2.B.6B$57.17B5.B6.5B$57.16B13.6B$57.16B13.6B$58.
13B15.5B$59.9B18.2B3D$61.6B20.BDB$63.4B20.3D$64.B23.B!

Even if one follows it with a dependent conduit with that transparent block, there is ample space to delete the glider with a fishhook or sidesnagger. Is there any particular reason why the unnecessary still lives were there, or should I remove them?

[calcyman]

Specifically, one can remove a fishhook, a block, and a loaf, and this allows the Fx119 to be follwed by an independent conduit.

If you're following it with an independent conduit, then you can remove another eater without impacting the recovery time:

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x = 216, y = 184, rule = LifeHistory
C$.2C$2C107$162.4B$163.4B$164.4B$165.4B23.2A$114.B51.4B22.A$113.3B51.
4B18.BA.A$113.4B31.A19.4B14.2A.B2A$114.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A
2B$115.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$116.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$
117.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$118.4B2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$119.4B3.3B
23.38B25.B$120.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$121.9B19.17B8.18B21.3B$122.3B
C5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$123.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$124.3C29B.7B12.16B
18.4B$124.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$122.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A13.4B$
122.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$121.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.A9.
7B4.2A10.4B4.2B$120.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$
119.A.AB2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$119.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.4B.B
11.A3.11B11.4B4.4B$118.2A6.4B6.8B17.6B9.2A3.4B2C5B10.4B4.4B$128.2A7.
6B18.7B14.3B2C5B9.4B4.4B$128.A9.4B21.B.4B13.10B8.4B4.4B$129.3A5.6B23.
4B13.9B7.4B4.4B$131.A4.8B23.4B12.9B6.4B4.4B$135.4B2.4B23.4B11.8B6.4B
4.4B$134.4B4.4B23.4B11.8B4.4B4.4B$133.4B6.4B23.4B11.6B4.4B4.4B$132.4B
8.4B23.4B10.6B3.4B4.4B$131.4B10.4B23.4B9.6B2.4B4.4B$130.4B12.4B23.4B
7.7B.4B4.4B$129.4B14.4B23.4B6.6B.4B4.4B$128.4B16.4B23.4B6.9B4.4B$127.
4B18.4B23.4B5.8B4.4B$126.4B20.4B23.4B3.8B4.4B$125.4B22.4B23.4B2.7B4.
4B$124.4B24.4B23.4B.6B4.4B$123.4B26.4B23.10B3.4B$122.4B28.4B23.9B2.4B
11.2A$121.4B30.4B19.3B.8B.4B12.A$120.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$119.4B
34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$118.4B36.4B7.B2.20B8.B2A2B$117.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$
116.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$115.4B42.4B2.24B5.B2.5B2.B$114.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E
2B.B2A$113.4B46.37B2E4B2A$113.3B48.40B.2B$113.2B50.39B$113.B52.39B$
167.38B$169.25B.9B$170.17B5.B3.8B$170.16B11.8B$170.16B12.7B$171.13B
15.6B$172.9B18.2B3D2B$174.6B19.2BD4B$176.4B19.B3D4B.3B$177.B21.13B$
199.14B$199.15B$200.14B$200.13B$199.14B$200.12B$202.3B2A3B$202.2BA2BA
B$204.B2A!

[dvgrn]

Even if one follows it with a dependent conduit with that transparent block, there is ample space to delete the glider with a fishhook or sidesnagger. Is there any particular reason why the unnecessary still lives were there, or should I remove them?

There's a very minor reason. As calcyman mentions, the "safe" p497 recovery time is not affected by gliders crossing the Fx119 reaction area. (I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)

However, the range of overclocking speeds is definitely improved a lot by the dependent-conduit option with the "unnecessary" still lifes. The spark in the Fx119 reaction area in that variant of the Silver G-to-H is also smaller, disappears 31 ticks sooner, and doesn't produce the additional parallel glider output.

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x = 222, y = 123, rule = LifeHistory
204.2A$204.A$74.2A126.A.A$74.A85.A37.2A2.2A$72.A.A59.A9.A15.3A35.2A$
30.A37.2A2.2A60.3A5.3A18.A$4.A9.A15.3A35.2A67.A3.A20.2A11.2E$4.3A5.3A
18.A102.2A3.2A32.2E$7.A3.A20.2A11.2E$6.2A3.2A32.2E3$137.C$138.C$7.C
128.3C$8.C141.2E52.2A$6.3C141.2E34.2A16.A.A$20.2E52.2A62.2E45.A.A18.A
$20.2E34.2A16.A.A60.E2.E44.A20.2A$8.2E45.A.A18.A55.2A4.2E44.2A4.2A$7.
E2.E44.A20.2A53.A.A55.A.A$2.2A4.2E44.2A4.2A69.A57.A$.A.A55.A.A68.2A
56.2A7.2E$.A57.A80.2A33.2A20.2E$2A56.2A7.2E71.A34.A$10.2A33.2A20.2E
72.3A32.3A$10.A34.A97.A34.A$11.3A32.3A$13.A34.A9$187.A$187.3A$50.A
139.A$50.3A136.2A28.2A$53.A165.A$52.2A35.2A126.A.A$89.A123.2A2.2A$87.
A.A123.2A$83.2A2.2A$83.2A2$212.2E4.2A$52.2C158.2E4.2A$51.C.C28.2E4.2A
$53.C28.2E4.2A$182.2C$181.C.C$183.C4$202.2A$116.2A83.A2.A8.3D$117.A
76.2A5.A.A9.D$83.3D28.3D77.2A6.A9.3D$83.D30.D$82.3D127.2E$212.2E$82.
2E98.2C$82.2E97.C.C$183.C2$52.2C$51.C.C141.2A$53.C142.A$65.2A129.A.A$
66.A130.2A$66.A.A$67.2A7$193.2A$192.A.A$63.2A127.A$62.A.A126.2A$62.A
138.2A$61.2A138.2A$71.2A145.2A.A$71.2A145.A.2A$88.2A.A$88.A.2A119.2A$
211.2A$81.2A$81.2A5$201.2A$202.A$71.2A129.A.A$72.A130.2A$72.A.A$73.2A
4$210.3D$210.D$80.3D126.3D$80.D$79.3D6$214.2A$213.A2.A$84.2A128.2A$
83.A2.A$84.2A!

Sometimes that can be convenient, if you're using this conduit in Spartan self-constructing circuitry to build relatively narrow glider salvos. The modified Fx119 only has two thirds as many transparent lanes -- 14 instead of 21 -- but that's very often plenty wide enough to build very useful salvos. You don't have to worry about suppressing that second parallel glider output, and other gliders can follow closer behind the inserted one because of the smaller spark.

... Or maybe it only used to be convenient -- I'm not sure there are any use cases left that couldn't be handled better by more recent discoveries. Certainly nobody cares about overclocking this circuit any more! So maybe it could just as well be removed. It was originally included because the loaf-reset trick wasn't particularly obvious, and it used to come in handy occasionally.

[calcyman]

(I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)

Wait, what? You've reintroduced the eater that I removed from the Fx77 (in order to use the FNG from the output Herschel to delete the blinker instead).

[dvgrn]

(I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)

Wait, what? You've reintroduced the eater that I removed from the Fx77 (in order to use the FNG from the output Herschel to delete the blinker instead).

Ooh, I shouldn't have done that. And yet it works this way too (by catching the extraneous glider on the other end of the eater).

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x = 216, y = 184, rule = LifeHistory
C$.2C$2C107$162.4B$163.4B$164.4B$165.4B23.2A$114.B51.4B22.A$113.3B51.
4B18.BA.A$113.4B31.A19.4B14.2A.B2A$114.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B
$115.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$116.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$117.4B
3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$118.4B2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$119.4B3.3B23.38B25.
B$120.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$121.9B19.17B8.18B21.3B$122.3BC5B6.2B3.
2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$123.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$124.3C29B.7B12.16B18.4B$124.
14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$122.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A13.4B$122.4B2E27B
2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$121.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.A9.7B4.2A10.4B4.
2B$120.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$119.A.AB2.5B4.4B
4.4B14.2B15.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$119.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.4B13.A3.11B11.4B4.4B$
118.2A6.4B6.8B17.B14.2A3.4B2C5B10.4B4.4B$128.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B2C5B9.4B
4.4B$128.A9.4B21.A18.10B8.4B4.4B$129.3A5.6B21.3A.2A13.9B7.4B4.4B$131.
A4.8B22.A.ABA12.9B6.4B4.4B$135.4B2.4B24.A2B11.8B6.4B4.4B$134.4B4.4B23.
4B11.8B4.4B4.4B$133.4B6.4B23.4B11.6B4.4B4.4B$132.4B8.4B23.4B10.6B3.4B
4.4B$131.4B10.4B23.4B9.6B2.4B4.4B$130.4B12.4B23.4B7.7B.4B4.4B$129.4B14.
4B23.4B6.6B.4B4.4B$128.4B16.4B23.4B6.9B4.4B$127.4B18.4B23.4B5.8B4.4B$
126.4B20.4B23.4B3.8B4.4B$125.4B22.4B23.4B2.7B4.4B$124.4B24.4B23.4B.6B
4.4B$123.4B26.4B23.10B3.4B$122.4B28.4B23.9B2.4B11.2A$121.4B30.4B19.3B
.8B.4B12.A$120.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$119.4B34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$118.
4B36.4B7.B2.20B8.B2A2B$117.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$116.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$115.
4B42.4B2.24B5.B2.5B2.B$114.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E2B.B2A$113.4B46.37B2E4B2A
$113.3B48.40B.2B$113.2B50.39B$113.B52.39B$167.38B$169.25B.9B$170.17B5.
B3.8B$170.16B11.8B$170.16B12.7B$171.13B15.6B$172.9B18.2B3D2B$174.6B19.
2BD4B$176.4B19.B3D4B.3B$177.B21.13B$199.14B$199.15B$200.14B$200.13B$199.
14B$200.12B$202.3B2A3B$202.2BA2BAB$204.B2A!

That was what I thought you meant. Your version was better, of course -- less stuff to build. I've restored it to its former glory.

All of this is fairly Steampunk Era technology at this point, since it has become so important for circuitry to support gliders with 90-tick spacing for single-channel construction recipes.

It would be entertaining to use the original version of this circuit that MathAndCode pointed out, to build a Steampunk Single-Channel Self-Constructor -- using an overclocked glider stream. Once a recipe starts, it would have to not stop until construction is complete, because as soon as a glider fails to come in, the circuit would self-destruct (and presumably we could add baits so that it automatically self-destructed and left nothing behind.)

But that's about the only modern "use" of these things that I can think of, outside of applications like self-constructing universal computers. A rebuild of pi-calculator-ish circuitry (to make it all Spartan-ish for constructability) would actually still use Silver reflectors and Silver G-to-Hs here and there, I think, since they're a surprisingly efficient combination of a prolific splitter and a couple of transparent-lane merge circuit options.

[MathAndCode]

Even if one follows it with a dependent conduit with that transparent block, there is ample space to delete the glider with a fishhook or sidesnagger. Is there any particular reason why the unnecessary still lives were there, or should I remove them?

There's a very minor reason. As calcyman mentions, the "safe" p497 recovery time is not affected by gliders crossing the Fx119 reaction area. (I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)

However, the range of overclocking speeds is definitely improved a lot by the dependent-conduit option with the "unnecessary" still lifes. The spark in the Fx119 reaction area in that variant of the Silver G-to-H is also smaller, disappears 31 ticks sooner, and doesn't produce the additional parallel glider output.

Sometimes that can be convenient, if you're using this conduit in Spartan self-constructing circuitry to build relatively narrow glider salvos. The modified Fx119 only has two thirds as many transparent lanes -- 14 instead of 21 -- but that's very often plenty wide enough to build very useful salvos. You don't have to worry about suppressing that second parallel glider output, and other gliders can follow closer behind the inserted one because of the smaller spark.

... Or maybe it only used to be convenient -- I'm not sure there are any use cases left that couldn't be handled better by more recent discoveries. Certainly nobody cares about overclocking this circuit any more! So maybe it could just as well be removed. It was originally included because the loaf-reset trick wasn't particularly obvious, and it used to come in handy occasionally.

I agree that it at least used to be useful but that using it for overclocking doesn't make much sense now that we have the Snark and syringe. However, I can't rule out that someone will want to use it, so I've put both versions in. Also, I put that Fx119 version in the H->H section in case someone wants to follow RF48Hf (or another conduit that deletes the output Herschel's first block if we have any) with Fx119.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

H-to-C, but with extra blinker:

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x = 28, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
2o18bo$bo16b3o$bobo13bo$2b2o13b2o2$26b2o$26bo$24bobo$24b2o$20b2o$2bo
17bobo$2bobo16b2o$2b3o$4bo4$15b2o$13bo2bo$13b3o2$15bo!

[MathAndCode]

Attached is the latest version of my EEC draft. The main difference is that the R→G section is more crowded. I added four new R→G conduits, each with two versions, as well as RNE-19T84b.
When is the official update going to happen. The last one was over a year ago.

[dvgrn]

When is the official update going to happen. The last one was over a year ago.

Quite likely, at the rate you're going, your "unofficial" version will end up being significantly more useful than the previous "official" version, in spite of it having lost a lot of functionality in terms of being able to run a script to re-compile the stamp collection.

When I took the time to split out each conduit into a separate file and use a script to compile them, I was hoping the system would gradually evolve to add more information to each file (like deltaX and deltaY, safe repeat times, etc.) This might eventually enable a replacement for the Hersrch search utility, to string together elementary conduits into arbitrarily long chains. Maybe my particular plan was too much work to maintain, and maybe some more database-driven approach would work better (but I'm not clear what).

Meanwhile, it would now take a whole lot of painful work to go through every single conduit and figure out which ones aren't in the "official" collection, so that they can be added. I'm only one of the previous maintainers of the collection, and I have no immediate intention of picking up this particular thankless task again.

So I guess what I should say is: thank you for posting this update! I've made a link to it from the first post in this thread.

EDIT: The first post has searchable lists of canonical conduit names. I don't see a good way to retrieve that kind of list from the "unofficial" stamp collection; are there any kind of records about which conduits were added since Freywa's most recent script-enabled update?

[MathAndCode]

Quite likely, at the rate you're going, your "unofficial" version will end up being significantly more useful than the previous "official" version, in spite of it having lost a lot of functionality in terms of being able to run a script to re-compile the stamp collection.

I was actually hoping that the script would be updated in order to accommodate a two-dimensional layout because resizing the grid and adding new conduits to an already crowded cell are each annoying.

Meanwhile, it would now take a whole lot of painful work to go through every single conduit and figure out which ones aren't in the "official" collection, so that they can be added. I'm only one of the previous maintainers of the collection, and I have no immediate intention of picking up this particular thankless task again.

I sometimes look back at old forum posts for various reasons (Today, it was finding R predecessors from the impractical conduits that I made over half of a year ago for this wiki edit.), and that's how I found HNE0T67. However, a systematic effort is going to be annoying. That's why I started this in the first place: because it would be easier to save conduits as they are found in some list in order to be referenced later than to comb through a year's worth of forum posts in any thread that could potentially contain any conduits.

EDIT: The first post has searchable lists of canonical conduit names. I don't see a good way to retrieve that kind of list from the "unofficial" stamp collection; are there any kind of records about which conduits were added since Freywa's most recent script-enabled update?

Bear in mind that I've removed over half a dozen conduits from the Elementary Conduits Collection that were composite (as well as all of the tandem glider conduits).

[dvgrn]

I was actually hoping that the script would be updated in order to accommodate a two-dimensional layout because resizing the grid and adding new conduits to an already crowded cell are each annoying.

... which was exactly why the automatic-layout script was written in the first place. I can certainly put it on my to-do list to rewrite the script to create a two-dimensional layout, but it will only have the old data available. Maybe that will be a good place to start, since at least the old and new collections can then be compared rectangle by rectangle. (Though I guess really that can be done anyway.)

That's why I started this in the first place: because it would be easier to save conduits as they are found in some list in order to be referenced later than to comb through a year's worth of forum posts in any thread that could potentially contain any conduits.

Yup. That would work for me if the new unofficial list contained only new conduits that weren't in Freywa's last update. But as it is, figuring out where the new conduits are in the grid version of the ECC is just as much of a task to be avoided as hunting through a year's worth of forum posts.

I won't be doing all of that maintenance work any time soon -- there's a Life text book that has to get finished first, among other things. But if the painful comparison can be done somehow, with newly added conduits extracted out into separate files, I'd probably be quite cheerful about writing the new grid-format layout script.

EDIT: The first post has searchable lists of canonical conduit names. I don't see a good way to retrieve that kind of list from the "unofficial" stamp collection; are there any kind of records about which conduits were added since Freywa's most recent script-enabled update?

Bear in mind that I've removed over half a dozen conduits from the Elementary Conduits Collection that were composite (as well as all of the tandem glider conduits).

That doesn't really help me generate any specific lists of what has been added, though. Whoever does all the hard maintenance work gets to make those kinds of include/don't-include decisions. I might end up disagreeing about the removal of the tandem glider conduits, since I do end up using those fairly regularly... maybe they'll end up off to the side in a column by themselves, or something like that. Alternatively, the H-to-G and H-to-Gn converters were originally in two separate collections -- maybe it's time to get the old H-to-Gn collection back up to date.

[dvgrn]

Cross-posting a new suppressed variant of the Scorbie Splitter H-to-G that retains the transparent output lane:

Sup[p]ressed scorbie splitter:

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x = 58, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
4.BA34.A6.2A$3.ABAB33.3A3.B2AB$4.2A2B10.A24.A2.4B$5.4B7.3A23.2A3.2B$
6.4B5.A21.B4.3B.4B$7.4B4.2A19.3B5.7B$2A6.9B17.6B3.11B$.A7.6B13.4B2.7B
2.12B$.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.31B$2.A2.A4.47B$3.2AB3.49B$4.14B2A13B2A23B$5.
13B2A13B2A21B$6.51B$6.17B.B5.26B$7.15B10.B2.19B$7.15B12.19B$8.13B12.
21B$10.13B10.8B2.11B$9.8B4.2A.A6.2AB2.5B2.11B$9.6B6.2AB3A3.A.AB2.4B3.
9B.B2A$9.5B8.B4.A2.A13.8B.BA.A$9.B.B9.2A.3A2.2A12.9B4.A$10.3B9.A.A17.
9B5.2A$9.B2AB9.A.A16.4B2.3B$10.2A11.A16.4B4.B!

Yikes, that's a useful simplification that I didn't think of looking for! It should be preferred over the standard Scorbie Splitter whenever the extra glider output (stopped by the white eater in the pattern below) isn't needed:

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x = 63, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
46.A$46.3A$49.A$4.BA34.A7.2A$3.ABAB33.3A5.4B$4.2A2B10.A24.A6.4B$5.4B
7.3A23.2A3.8B$6.4B5.A21.B4.3B.9B$7.4B4.2A19.3B5.14B$2A6.9B17.6B3.16B$
.A7.6B13.4B2.7B2.16B$.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.33B$2.A2.A4.48B$3.2AB3.50B$4.
14B2A13B2A24B$5.13B2A13B2A21B.4B$6.51B2.2C$6.17B.B5.26B3.C$7.15B10.B
2.19B6.3C$7.15B12.19B9.C$8.13B12.21B$10.13B10.8B2.11B$9.8B4.2A.A6.2AB
2.5B2.11B$9.6B6.2AB3A3.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A$9.5B8.B4.A2.A13.8B.BA.A$9.B.B
9.2A.3A2.2A12.9B4.A$10.3B9.A.A17.9B5.2A$9.B2AB9.A.A16.4B2.3B$10.2A11.
A16.4B4.B!

There are piles of Scorbie Splitters used as merge circuits in the new pi-calculator printer, for example, that really ought to be replaced with this version.

... Is the original H-to-2G from the Scorbie Splitter really still not in the ECC? Seems like it should be in the dependent-conduits isolation zone over on the right in the H-to-G rectangle.

[MathAndCode]

Is the original H-to-2G from the Scorbie Splitter really still not in the ECC? Seems like it should be in the dependent-conduits isolation zone over on the right in the H-to-G rectangle.

It indeed is not; that's why I asked for a link to the RLE on the Discord server. Do you happen to already know the systematic name for it?

[dvgrn]

Do you happen to already know the systematic name for it?

The new version is SW25T179, or technically SW10T108_SW25T179 but the standard dependent-conduit output has to be suppressed in a Scorbie Splitter.

The old version is SW25T179_SE28T20.

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x = 119, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
73.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$72.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$72.D
5.D9.D.D3.D3.D7.D.D2.2D$73.3D2.3D6.D3.3D4.D6.D2.D.D.D$76.D.D7.D3.D3.D
3.D5.D3.2D2.D$72.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D4.D4.D3.D$73.3D2.5D.5D2.3D4.D3.5D
2.3D4$.3D2.D3.D2.3D2.5D.5D3.D3.5D2.3D27.3D2.D3.D2.3D2.5D.5D3.D3.5D2.
3D$D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.D7.D4.2D7.D.D3.D25.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.D7.D4.2D7.D.D3.D$
D5.D3.D5.D.D7.D5.D6.D2.D3.D25.D5.D3.D5.D.D7.D5.D6.D2.D3.D$.3D2.D.D.D
4.D3.3D4.D5.D5.D4.4D26.3D2.D.D.D4.D3.3D4.D5.D5.D4.4D$4.D.D.D.D3.D7.D
3.D5.D4.D8.D29.D.D.D.D3.D7.D3.D5.D4.D8.D$D3.D.2D.2D2.D4.D3.D3.D5.D3.D
9.D25.D3.D.2D.2D2.D4.D3.D3.D5.D3.D9.D$.3D2.D3.D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D2.D6.3D
27.3D2.D3.D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D2.D6.3D5$18.A6.2A$18.3A3.B2AB$21.A2.4B67.A$
20.2A3.2B68.3A$15.B4.3B.4B70.A$14.3B5.7B60.A7.2A$12.6B3.11B57.3A5.4B$
6.4B2.7B2.12B59.A6.4B$6.29B56.2A3.8B$3.B2C29B51.B4.3B.9B$3.3CB2C27B
49.3B5.14B$4.2CB3CB2A23B47.6B3.16B$3.3CB2C2B2A21B43.4B2.7B2.16B$3.2CB
2.27B42.31B$8.26B40.B2C30B$10.B2.19B42.3CB2C28B$12.19B44.2CB3CB2A25B$
11.21B42.3CB2C2B2A21B.4B$11.8B2.11B42.2CB2.27B.4B$9.2AB2.5B2.11B47.
26B3.4B$8.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A47.B2.19B6.4B$8.A13.8B.BA.A48.19B8.4B$7.2A
12.9B4.A47.21B8.4B$20.9B5.2A46.8B2.11B9.3B$19.4B2.3B52.2AB2.5B2.11B
10.2B$18.4B4.B52.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A9.B$17.4B58.A13.8B.BA.A$16.4B58.2A
12.9B4.A$15.4B72.9B5.2A$14.4B72.4B2.3B$13.4B72.4B4.B$12.4B72.4B$87.4B
$86.4B$85.4B$84.4B$83.4B!

I forget, have you gotten Python working on your computer yet?

"SW25T179" does get a few mentions on the forums, like here, but weirdly, SE28T20 just doesn't seem to have been run through the identifier script before.

[MathAndCode]

The new version is SW25T179, or technically SW10T108_SW25T179 but the standard dependent-conduit output has to be suppressed in a Scorbie Splitter.

The old version is SW25T179_SE28T20.

Thank you. (I had figured them out manually by the time that I saw that, but I've made a mistake with that at least once, so it's nice to have someone else verify it.) They are in the RLE that I have attached to this post.

ECC update draft.txt

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I forget, have you gotten Python working on your computer yet?

I've always been able to run Python on other applications, but I still can't run Python scripts in Golly. This is why I've asked about the existence of lifelib versions of various programs, such as synthesise-patt.

[Kazyan]

It appears to have gone unnoticed that the block-suppressing version of the old glider-to-block factory can act as a G5->G:

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x = 30, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
5.A3.2A$3.3A3.A$2.A3.2A.A$.A2.A.A.A$.A.2ABAB$2.A2.2BA$3.3ABA$3A2.BA$A
2.3A5B$3.A2.6B$.A.A2.7B6.2A6.3D$.2A3.6BAB5.A6.3BD$5.6BABA2.BA.A5.3BD$
5.6B2A2B.B2A5.4B$5.12B6.4B$5.8BA3B5.4B$5.7B2A3B4.4B$3.2AB.5BABA5.4B$
2.A.AB.6B6.4B$2.A4.6B5.4B$.2A5.6B3.4B$8.7B.4B$9.10B$9.9B$9.9B$9.10B$
9.6B.4B$10.4B3.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.2B2A$24.BABA$25.AB!

This would hardly be worth noting on its own, but interestingly, it's an edgeshooter.

[cvojan]

I-to-G:

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x = 28, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
18.2A$18.A2.2A$19.2A.3A$20.B4.A$19.2AB3A$19.2A.A$16.5B$7.2A6.4B$6.B2A
B5.5B$7.3B4.7B$8.B2.2B.7B$6.15B$6.15B$5.16B$4.18B$3.19B$2.4B2C14B$2.
5B2C13B$2.B5C15B$.3B3C17B$2.3BC18B$2.21B$3.B.18B$7.15B4.2A$5.4B.8B8.A
$3.A.2A4.4B2C2B4.BA.A$.3AB2A4.4BCBC4B.B2A$A4.B5.5BC7B$.3A.2A4.13B$3.
2A2.A3.12B$6.2A6.9B$14.8B$14.7B$13.7B$12.6B$11.5B$10.4B$9.D3B$8.D3B$
8.3D!

[Jormungant]

I-to-G:

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x = 28, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
18.2A$18.A2.2A$19.2A.3A$20.B4.A$19.2AB3A$19.2A.A$16.5B$7.2A6.4B$6.B2A
B5.5B$7.3B4.7B$8.B2.2B.7B$6.15B$6.15B$5.16B$4.18B$3.19B$2.4B2C14B$2.
5B2C13B$2.B5C15B$.3B3C17B$2.3BC18B$2.21B$3.B.18B$7.15B4.2A$5.4B.8B8.A
$3.A.2A4.4B2C2B4.BA.A$.3AB2A4.4BCBC4B.B2A$A4.B5.5BC7B$.3A.2A4.13B$3.
2A2.A3.12B$6.2A6.9B$14.8B$14.7B$13.7B$12.6B$11.5B$10.4B$9.D3B$8.D3B$
8.3D!

Looks great! It fully works with the B-to-I precursor:

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x = 43, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
2$24.A$24.3A$4.A22.A$3.A.A20.2A$3.A.A14.2B4.4B$2.2A.2A12.5B4.4B$2.A2.
B9.10B2.6B$3.AB2AB2.15B2.7B$.A.A.2AB.16B2.8B$.2A4.18B.9B$7.20BC8B$7.
19BCBC7B$8.18B2C9B$10.27B$12.19B3.4B$11.20B4.4B$11.20B5.4B$12.14B11.
3BD$9.2B.13B13.DBDB$8.2A16B13.2D2B$8.2A16B4.2A8.3B$9.B2.12B.B2A.A.A9.
2B$14.10B.B2ABA12.B$5.7B.10B4.B2.A$5.19B2.2A.2A$3.C20B3.A.A$3.BC18B4.
A.A$2.2B2C17B5.A$.2B2C2B2A13B2A$.2BC3B2A13B2A$3.18B$3.10B2.5B$4.6B5.
7B$5.3B8.B3.2A$5.B14.A$4.2A15.3A$4.A18.A$5.A$4.2A!

Maybe one could get something more from this:

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x = 56, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
5$25.A$25.3A$28.A$27.2A$21.2B4.4B$20.5B4.4B$16.10B2.6B$15.11B2.7B$15.
11B2.8B$15.11B.9B$15.13BC8B$15.12BCBC7B$15.12B2C9B$15.23B$15.17B3.4B$
15.17B4.4B$15.17B5.4B$15.12B11.3BD$15.11B13.DBDB$15.12B13.2D2B$15.12B
4.2A8.3B$15.10B.B2A.A.A9.2B$15.10B.B2ABA12.B$6.7B.10B4.B2.A$6.19B2.2A
.2A$4.C20B3.A.A$4.BC18B4.A.A$3.2B2C17B5.A$2.2B2C2B2A13B2A$2.2BC3B2A
13B2A$4.18B$4.10B2.5B$5.6B5.7B$6.3B8.B3.2A$6.B14.A$5.2A15.3A$5.A18.A$
6.A$5.2A!

[MathAndCode]

I-to-G

I have added (a slightly modified version of) it to the Elementary Conduits Collection draft.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Spartan form:

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x = 33, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
24bo$24b3o$4bo22bo$3bobo20b2o$3bobo$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bob2o2$27bo$26bob
o$26b2o7$8b2o$8b2o$26b2obo$26b2ob3o$32bo$26b2ob3o$27bobo$3b2o22bobo$4b
2o22bo$3b2o2b2o13b2o$3bo3b2o13b2o4$20b2o$20bo$4b2o15b3o$4bo18bo$5b3o$
7bo!

[MathAndCode]

Here is a new Herschel->pi conduit (specifically HR59P):

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x = 27, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
19.A$17.3A$A15.A$3A13.2A$3.A21.2A$2.2A21.A$23.A.A$23.2A5$.C$.C.C$.3C$
3.C3$18.2A$18.2A2$12.D.D$12.D.D$12.3D!

Edit: I reduced the cleanup.

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
19.A$17.3A$A15.A$3A13.2A$3.A$2.2A2$22.2A$22.2A4$.C$.C.C$.3C$3.C3$18.2A
$18.2A2$12.D.D$12.D.D$12.3D!

[Sphenocorona]

This reaction throws its chaos pretty far from the input:

Here's 3 elementary conduits based off this reaction that have new outputs. There's an elementary Bx227 (H->H) with a unique output geometry, an H->G with new outputs NE25T122 and NE53T81 in addition to the standard SW-2 (EDIT: known), and an HF143P with the standard annoying block at the end:

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x = 232, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory
94.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$94.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D7.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D
$94.D.D.D.D9.D.D7.D5.D7.D5.D$94.D2.2D.3D6.D3.3D4.D5.D6.D5.D$94.D3.D.D
7.D7.D3.D5.D5.D5.D$94.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D5.D4.D5.D$94.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D4.
D4.3D2.5D.5D4$5.D3.D.4D9.3D3.3D2.5D.D3.D52.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D4.D
55.D3.D.5D3.D6.D3.3D2.4D$5.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D5.D.D3.D52.2D2.D.D5.D
5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D55.D3.D.D6.2D5.2D2.D3.D.D3.D$5.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D5.D5.
D4.D2.D3.D52.D.D.D.D5.D9.D3.D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.D.D7.D4.D.D6.D.D3.D$5.5D.
4D3.D.D5.D5.D4.D3.5D52.D2.2D.3D4.3D4.2D4.D4.3D4.D55.5D.3D5.D3.D2.D4.
2D2.4D$5.D3.D.D3.D3.D5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D52.D3.D.D9.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.
D.D7.D3.5D5.D.D$5.D3.D.D3.D2.D.D3.D5.D4.D5.D3.D52.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.
D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.D.D7.D6.D2.D3.D.D$5.D3.D.4D2.D3.D.5D.5D.D5.D3.D52.D3.
D.5D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D54.D3.D.D6.3D5.D3.3D2.D9$11.2A.2A85.2A.2A85.2A
.2A$12.A.A87.A.A87.A.A$7.2A.A5.A.2A77.2A.A5.A.2A77.2A.A5.A.2A$6.A.A.
2A3.2A.A.A75.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A75.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$5.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A73.A
2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A73.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$5.7AB.B7A73.7AB.B7A73.7AB.B7A$9.
3B.B.3B81.3B.B.3B81.3B.B.3B$7.3AB.3B.B3A77.3AB.3B.B3A77.3AB.3B.B3A$6.
A.BA3BA3BAB.A75.A.BA3BA3BAB.A31.B43.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$6.2A3.BABAB3.2A75.
2A3.BABAB3.2A30.2B43.2A3.BABAB3.2A$11.BABAB34.B50.BABAB34.3B48.BABAB$
11.2BA2B33.2B50.2BA2B33.4B48.2BA2B$11.2B.2B32.3B50.2B.2B32.4B49.2B.2B
$9.B.5B31.4B48.B.5B31.4B48.B.5B$7.9B30.4B47.9B30.4B47.9B$7.8B2A28.4B
48.8B2A28.4B48.8B2A$6.2A6BA2BA26.4B48.2A6BA2BA26.4B48.2A6BA2BA$6.2AB.
5B2AB25.4B49.2AB.5B2AB25.4B49.2AB.5B2AB$7.B2.8B24.4B51.B2.8B24.4B51.B
2.8B$10.8B3.2B18.4B55.8B3.2B18.4B55.8B3.2B$11.12B17.4B57.12B17.4B57.
12B$11.14B14.4B58.14B14.4B58.14B$11.15B12.4B59.15B12.4B59.15B$9.18B
10.4B58.18B10.4B58.18B6.2A$7.21B8.4B57.21B8.4B57.21B4.B2AB$7.2BC19B6.
4B58.2BC19B6.4B58.2BC19B4.2B$6.3BCBC19B3.5B57.3BCBC19B3.5B57.3BCBC17B
4.2B.B.2B$7.2B3C20B.7B57.2B3C20B.7B57.2B3C17B3.9B$6.5BC29B2.B52.5BC
29B2.B52.5BC30B$5.10B.25B.B2A50.10B.25B.B2A50.10B.27B.B$4.4B9.26B2A
49.4B9.26B2A49.4B9.31B$4.3B10.24B.2B50.3B10.24B.2B50.3B10.33B$2.4B12.
23B51.4B12.23B51.4B12.31B3D$2.2E14.24B50.2E14.24B50.2E14.33BD$3.E16.
23B50.E16.23B50.E16.29B3D$3E17.24B46.3E17.24B46.3E17.29B$E19.23B47.E
19.23B9.B37.E19.10B4.8B.6B$19.25B65.25B7.2B56.13B7.B5.B.B$19.24B66.
24B7.3B56.6B5.2A13.B2AB$20.23B67.23B6.4B57.4B6.A15.2A$20.24B66.25B3.
4B58.4B7.3A$22.24B66.29B72.A$24.8B2.12B.2B65.8B2.16B$25.7B3.13B2A65.
7B3.14B$26.5B5.10B.B2A66.5B5.13B$28.2B7.10B.B69.2B7.12B$28.2B2.2B2.
10B80.12B$26.D20B75.15B$24.DBD21B73.16B$23.B3D21B73.15B$24.D23B73.14B
$26.22B71.2AB.10B$31.B.3B.12B69.A.AB2.7B$37.11B70.A6.6B$38.2B2.6B69.
2A9.2B$43.4B$44.5B$47.2A$47.A$48.3A$50.A!

The Bx227's output is pretty weird, and unfortunately there's no room for catalysts around where the output's first block drops, or really for most of that whole side. The conduit puts out a spark where the block would be laid down, but it's not lined up in a way that cleanly deletes it. That said, it's still absolutely possible to put conduits before and after it, so it still meets the usability requirement for the traditional standard conduit collection:

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x = 101, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
61.2A.2A25.4B$62.A.A25.4B$57.2A.A5.A.2A19.4B$56.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A17.4B$
55.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A15.4B$55.7AB.B7A14.4B$59.3B.B.3B17.4B11.B$57.3AB.
3B.B3A14.4B11.2B$56.A.BA3BA3BAB.A12.4B11.3B$56.2A3.BABAB3.2A11.4B11.
4B$35.A25.BABAB15.4B11.5B$35.3A23.2BA2B14.4B11.6B$38.A22.2B.2B13.4B
11.7B$37.2A4.2B14.B.5B12.4B11.8B$33.B3.8B12.9B11.4B11.8B$31.4B4.7B11.
8B2A9.4B11.8B$30.6B.9B10.2A6BA2BA7.4B11.8B$30.6B.10B9.2AB.5B2AB6.4B
11.8B$29.19B9.B2.8B5.4B11.8B$28.19B13.8B3.5B11.8B$28.17B16.14B11.8B$
29.15B17.14B10.8B$27.17B17.15B8.8B$25.21B13.18B6.8B$25.2BC21B3.2B2.
22B4.8B$24.3BCBC4B.24BD19B2.8B$25.2B3C4B2.23BDBD27B$24.5BC4B2.23B3D
28B$23.10B4.24BD29B2.B$22.4B10.55B.B2A$22.3B12.16B.4B4.31B2A$20.4B13.
12B5.3B4.30B.2B$20.2A15.9B6.4B2.33B$21.A14.11B5.2A3.35B$18.3A16.7B.B
2A5.A2.37B$18.A20.4B2.BA.A.3A3.38B$38.B2A2B5.A.A4.38B$39.2A7.2A5.39B$
54.39B$53.40B$54.40B$30.A23.42B$30.3A23.26B2.12B.2B$33.A23.17B.7B3.
13B2A$32.2A23.18B.5B5.10B.B2A$32.5B8.A11.20B.2B7.10B.B$34.4B5.3A12.
22B2.2B2.10B$32.7B3.A15.18BD20B$31.9B2.2A14.16BDBD21B$29.11B.3B2.B10.
17B3D21B$29.13B3.3B8.4B.13BD23B$28.2A18B7.4B2.37B$28.2A18B6.4B3.13B4.
4B.3B.12B$29.B.18B4.4B4.6B4.4B4.4B4.11B$32.18B2.4B4.7B5.4B4.4B4.2B2.
6B$30.20B.4B6.6B6.4B4.4B8.4B$18.B.7B2.25B8.6B6.4B4.4B8.5B$12.B.13B2.
24B9.6B7.4B4.4B10.2A$4.24BD23B9.8B7.4B4.4B9.A$.2B.BD21BD23B2.B8.6B9.
4B4.4B9.3A$2A3B3D18B2D28B5.7B10.4B4.4B10.A$2AB.BDBD15B2A2B2D41B9.4B4.
4B$.B2.3BD15B2A3BD22B2ABD11B2A2B.B8.4B4.4B$5.6B2.2B3.11B.21B2AB3D9B2A
3B2A8.4B4.4B$19.10B2.23BDBD14B2A9.4B4.4B$22.6B3.25BD15B11.4B4.4B$24.
3B5.28B2.2B2.B2.5B10.4B4.4B$26.B4.13B.7B2.4B7.3B4.2A11.4B4.4B$26.2A3.
13B2.6B13.B2AB3.A13.4B4.4B$27.A5.11B3.3B16.2A5.3A11.4B4.4B$24.3A8.9B
4.B26.A12.4B4.4B$24.A10.8B46.4B4.4B$35.8B47.4B4.3B$37.6B48.4B4.2B$37.
5B50.4B4.B$39.3B51.4B!

The H-to-G can also be made to produce a B output that would make an HBx207B, but the B output is a bit difficult to use due to the eater placement that's required compounding the claustrophobic situation (EDIT: Apparently there were already ways to do this, as can be seen here):

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x = 52, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A.2A$12.A.A$7.2A.A5.A.2A$6.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$5.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$5.
7AB.B7A$9.3B.B.3B$7.3AB.3B.B3A$6.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$6.2A3.BABAB3.2A30.B$
11.BABAB34.2B$11.2BA2B33.3B$11.2B.2B32.4B$9.B.5B31.4B$7.9B30.4B$7.8B
2A28.4B$6.2A6BA2BA26.4B$6.2AB.5B2AB25.4B$7.B2.8B24.4B$10.8B3.2B18.4B$
11.12B17.4B$11.14B14.4B$11.15B12.4B$9.18B10.4B$7.21B8.4B$7.2BC19B6.4B
$6.3BCBC19B3.5B$7.2B3C20B.7B$6.5BC29B2.B$5.10B.25B.B2A$4.4B9.26B2A$4.
3B10.24B.2B$2.4B12.23B$2.2E14.24B$3.E16.23B$3E17.24B$E19.23B$19.25B7.
B$19.24B7.2B$20.23B6.3B$20.25B3.4B$22.29B$24.8B2.16B$25.7B3.14B$26.5B
5.13B$28.2B7.12B$36.12B$34.13B$33.2D12B$32.2D12B$33.2D10B$34.D2B.5B$
37.4B$37.4B$38.2B$36.4B$36.2C$37.C$34.3C$34.C!

EDIT: I've gone and marked some of the results here as being known already, since they were found back in 2020. The other two conduits I posted at the beginning seem to actually be new though

[MathAndCode]

Here's 3 elementary conduits based off this reaction that have new outputs.

Attached is the new version of the EEC draft.

EDIT by dvgrn: Bureaucratic maintenance question: Is there any reason to keep old versions of the ECC draft around after a new one comes out? Seems like it would work to just update one post, and then link back to it whenever an update happens. I've updated the first-post link to point to this post.