Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by DroneBetter » December 18th, 2022, 1:37 pm

Trivial p6624 reduction from 59*52 (3068) to 54*52 (2808) by substituting the LCM reaction of a twin bees shuttle and hotcrystal0 reaction for one of a twin bees and two-blockers-hassling-R-pentomino reaction like the p1656 and p3312 guns and using a 68P32 to double the period (that was all I did, perhaps a program for period-doubling all guns with periods sufficient for a filter and seeing which ones constitute improvements would be a good idea)

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x = 112, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
5b2o77bo$5b2o77b3o$5b2o75b2o3bo$5bo70b2o3bo3b2obo$4bobo69b2o3bo4bobo$
5bobob3o70bobobob2o$6bob4o70bo3bo$7bo75b2obo$83b2ob2o$3b2o68bo$4bo66b
4o$4bobo14b2o48bo3bo$5b2o13bo2bo47b2o3bo$21b2o50b3o7b2ob2o$8b2o59bo5bo
7b2obo$8b2o59b2obobo7bo3bo$24b2o43bobo10bobobob2o$24bo47b2o7bo4bobo8bo
11bo$25b3o53bo3b2obo8b2o9b2o$27bo54b2o3bo$84b3o9bo13bo$84bo10b2obo3bob
o3bob2o$98bo3bobo3bo$34bo28b2o32bo3bo3bo3bo$34b3o24bo2bo33bo9bo$37bo
31b3o24bobo9bobo$5b2o29b2o28bobo3bo23b2o11b2o$5b2o42bob3o7b2o3bobo3bo
23bo13bo$50b4o16b2o$39b2o7b3o14bo3bo26bo13bo$38bo2bo13b2o39b2o11b2o$
39b2o14bobo38bobo9bobo$57bo40bo9bo$5b3o3b3o43b2o4b2o5b2o25bo3bo3bo3bo$
4bo2bo3bo2bo83bo3bobo3bo$4bo3bobo3bo39bo7bo9bo22b2obo3bobo3bob2o$3b2ob
obobobob2o34b4obo6bo3bobo3bo23bo13bo$3b2ob2o3b2ob2o34b3obobo5bo3bobo3b
o$4b3o5b3o40bobo5bobo3bobo4b2o4b2o13b2o9b2o$56bo7bo5bo5b2o4bo3bo10bo
11bo$55b2o25bo2bobo$55b2o29bo$55b2o23b2o2$78bo3bo$78bo4bo$80bobobo$2o
15b2o62bobobo$obo13bobo63bo4bo$bo15bo21bo43bo3bo15bo$5b2o5b2o26bo22b2o
5b2o32bo$5b2o5b2o24b3o22b2o5b2o12b2o16b3o!
That concludes my post (I hope you liked it)

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by affamatodidio » December 20th, 2022, 4:21 pm

p552 down to 45x25 by way of custom sparker:

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x = 45, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
23bo9bob2ob2obo$22bobob2o3b4obobob2o$3bo16bobobobobobo5bobo$2bobo14b2o
bobo3b2ob7ob3o$2bobo2b2o7bobo3bobo2bo3bobo4bo2bo$b2obobobo6b3o4bob2o2b
2o5bo2bo$o3b2obo7b4o2bo2bo3b4o3bo2bo$2obo2bo15b4o4b2o5bo$bob3ob3o3b5o
24b2o$bo6b2obob2o27b2o$2bob2o2b7o$b2ob2o4b3o20b2o3bo$18b2o13b3obob2o2b
2o$10bo7b2o13b3o4bo2b2o$10bo25bo3bo$10bo26b3o$19b2o3b2o$2b3o8b2o3b3o3b
3o10b3o$2b3o7bo3b3o7b3o7bo3bo$2b3o11b3o7b3o4b3o4bo2b2o$5b3o8b3o7b3o4b
3obob2o2b2o$5b3o10b3o3b3o6b2o3bo$5b3o11b2o3b2o$42b2o$42b2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by rattlesnake » December 20th, 2022, 8:11 pm

DroneBetter wrote:
December 18th, 2022, 1:37 pm
Trivial p6624 reduction from 59*52 (3068) to 54*52 (2808) by substituting the LCM reaction of a twin bees shuttle and hotcrystal0 reaction for one of a twin bees and two-blockers-hassling-R-pentomino reaction like the p1656 and p3312 guns and using a 68P32 to double the period (that was all I did, perhaps a program for period-doubling all guns with periods sufficient for a filter and seeing which ones constitute improvements would be a good idea)

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RLE
A quadri-Snark is better.
guntrue_6624 and gun_6624 reduced:

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#C [[ THEME 14 ]]
x = 55, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
38bo$37b2o$23b2o11b3obo9b2o$23b2o10b2o13b2o$36b2o$37bo2$37bo$36b2o$8b
o26b2o13b2o$9bo26b3obo9b2o$4b3o4b2o24b2o$3bo6bo2b2o23bo$4bob2o4b2o$4b
obo$5bo11b2o20b2o$5b2o10b2o21bo$5b2o31bo5b2o$38b2o5bo$4bo12bo27bob2o$
3bo14bo19b2o2b2obo2bo$2bo4bo6bo4bo18b2o3bob2o$2b3o3bo4bo3b3o23bo$2o4b
3o4b3o4b2o20b2o$bobo14bobo16bo11b2o$bob6o4b6obo15bobo10bobo$2bo5bo4bo
5bo17bo13bo$3b3o10b3o24bo7bob2o$5bo10bo26b3o2b2obobo$44b2o2b2obobo$43b
o7bob2o$32b2o10bo3b4o2bo$31bobo10bo3bo3b2o$31bo18b2o$30b2o5bo13bo$36b
o12bo$36b3o10b2o!
Edit:
Improved guntrue_200 and gun_200 by changing the period-50 glider gun to a filtered period-25 glider gun.
Please tell me if it is possible to improve on this design.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » December 30th, 2022, 5:37 am

Catagolue does not appear to automatically reorient guns at the moment, so please be aware of the convention when submitting patterns to the box:

1) The gliders travel to the lower right.
2) The pattern is in the last phase before a glider leaves the bounding box.
3) The width is greater than or equal to the height.
Moosey wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 3:58 pm
...
[R49 catalyst] makes a very nice edgy & sparky eater:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12b3o$4b2o5bo$2b3obo4b2o$bo4bo$2b3obob2o$4bobo2bo$7b2o4$2o$b2o$2o
$o!
When this banana-spark-making eater is appended to the p166 Herschel factory, it can be used to reduce gun_2490 (=lcm(166,30)) from 4234 (*) to 2478 cells...

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x = 59, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A$27.A.A$27.A$25.B2A$20.3B.2B$19.7B4A$19.5B.BA2.A14.2A$18.8B2.A
16.A$18.8B3.3A12.A$12.B3.11B4.A12.2A2.B$10.17B20.3B$10.6BA10B17.2A6B$
7.B.8BA11B15.A.7B$6.2A8B2A7B2.2A.A14.A.5B.B$6.2A8BAB2A4B3.2AB3A9.3A2.
4B.3B$7.8BABAB2A3B4.B4.A8.A4.B2A5B$7.4B.2BA2BA7B2.2A.3A13.BA2BA5B$10.
3BA2BA7B4.A.A16.A9B$9.14B5.A.A15.2B3A5B$10.4BA3B2A3B6.A15.4B3.4B$11.
4BA2B2A2B23.5B3A2B$11.2B2A2BA4B22.9BA$3.A6.3B2A3BA4B22.5BA2BAB$2.A.A
5.14B22.5B2AB4.A$2.A.A4.7BA2BA3B2.7B.B12.3B.4B2.3A$.2A.2A2.7BA2BA2B4.
13B.B7.B.5B.A$.A2.B4.3B2ABABA27B.9B.A$2.AB2A3.4B2ABA38B2A$A.A.2A2.7B
2A33B.3B$2A2.11BA11B2A22B.B2.2A$6.10BA10B2A16B3.4B4.A$6.28B3.2B2.4B4.
4B3.A.A$.A4.11B3.B2.10B8.4B5.4B3.2A$.3A3.8B9.6B11.2B2AB5.4B$4.A2.8B
10.3B12.A.A2BAB5.4B$3.A2.AB.5B11.B12.3A.A.2AB6.4B$3.4A7B10.2A11.A4.A
2.4B5.4B$7.2B.3B11.A13.3A.A4.2A6.3BA$5.2AB17.A14.2A5.A8.ABA$5.A18.2A
22.3A6.2A$3.A.A44.A7.B$3.2A!
(*The same p166 Herschel factory connected to Bx125 and then p5 Kazyanic filter and filtered by Karel's p15 to triple the period, which was designed by me but not posted this thread)
... and to construct a gun_2656 (=lcm(166,32)) in 3780 cells...

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x = 70, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
57.2B$40.8B8.4B$39.5B2A3B6.B3AB$39.4BA2BA2B6.A4B$38.8B2A2B5.A2BAB$37.
3BA5B3A2B3.6B$38.BA.A3BAB.AB5.ABA3B$40.2A3B3A6.BABA3B$54.BA2BAB$40.2A
3B3A6.6B$38.BA.A3BAB.AB4.3A4B$37.3BA5B3A2B3.2ABA3B$28.2A8.8B2A2B4.B3A
2B2.B$27.A.A9.4BA2BA2B5.2BA3B.B2A$27.A11.5B2A3B5.BA6B2A$25.B2A12.11B
3.A2BA2B.2B$20.3B.2B21.BABAB.BA3BAB$19.7B4A17.8BA3BAB$19.5B.BA2.A17.
3BA10B$18.8B2.A18.6B.6B$18.8B3.3A14.10BA3B$12.B3.11B4.A14.BA3BA8B$10.
17B20.BA3BAB.BABAB$10.9B2A6B17.2B.2BA2BA3.11B$7.B.9B2AB2A6B14.2A6BAB
5.3B2A5B$6.2A7B4AB3A2B2.2A.A12.2AB.3BA2B5.2BA2BA4B$6.2A5B2AB2A2B2A2B
3.2AB3A11.B2.2B3AB4.2B2A8B$7.9B2AB2A3B4.B4.A12.3BAB2A3.2B3A5BA3B$7.4B
.4B2ABA5B2.2A.3A13.4B3A4.BA.BA3BA.AB$10.7BABA4B4.A.A16.6B6.3A3B2A$9.
5BA3BA4B5.A.A16.BA2BAB$10.5B3A5B6.A16.3BABAB6.3A3B2A$11.11B24.3BABA5.
BA.BA3BA.AB$11.11B25.6B3.2B3A5BA3B$3.A6.5B3A5B24.BA2BA5.2B2A8B$2.A.A
5.4BA3BA5B23.4BA6.2BA2BA4B$2.A.A4.4BABA7B2.7B.B13.B3AB6.3B2A5B$.2A.2A
2.5BAB2A4B4.13B.B7.4B8.8B$.A2.B4.3B2AB2A28B.4B$2.AB2A3.2B2A2B2AB2A29B
$A.A.2A2.2B3AB4A32B$2A2.6B2AB2A12B2A22B$6.6B2A13B2A16B3.4B$6.28B3.2B
2.4B4.4B$.A4.11B3.B2.10B8.4B5.4B$.3A3.8B9.6B11.2B2AB5.4B$4.A2.8B10.3B
12.A.A2BAB5.4B$3.A2.AB.5B11.B12.3A.A.2AB6.4B$3.4A7B10.2A11.A4.A2.4B5.
4B$7.2B.3B11.A13.3A.A4.2A6.4B$5.2AB17.A14.2A5.A8.4B$5.A18.2A22.3A6.3B
A$3.A.A44.A7.3BA$3.2A54.3AB!
... and to construct a gun_7470 (=lcm(166,45)) in 2646 cells...

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x = 63, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A$27.A.A$27.A18.2B5.2A$25.B2A18.4B2.A.A$20.3B.2B19.8BA$19.7B4A15.
7B6.A$19.5B.BA2.A16.6B5.BAB$18.8B2.A18.6B4.3B$18.8B3.3A14.7B3.2BA2B$
12.B3.11B4.A14.7B3.BABAB$10.17B17.B2.3BA2B2.7B$10.9B2A6B16.2AB.2BABAB
2.2B3A2B$7.B.9B2AB2A6B14.2A3BA14B$6.2A7B4AB3A2B2.2A.A13.2B.2BABA11B$
6.2A5B2AB2A2B2A2B3.2AB3A14.3BA3B.2B3A2B$7.9B2AB2A3B4.B4.A12.16B$7.4B.
4B2ABA5B2.2A.3A13.9B.BABAB$10.7BABA4B4.A.A16.6B3.2BA2B$9.5BA3BA4B5.A.
A16.6B4.3B$10.5B3A5B6.A16.7B4.BAB$11.11B24.7B5.A$11.11B25.6B$3.A6.5B
3A5B23.6B$2.A.A5.4BA3BA5B22.6B$2.A.A4.4BABA7B2.7B.B12.6B$.2A.2A2.5BAB
2A4B4.13B.B7.4B$.A2.B4.3B2AB2A28B.4B$2.AB2A3.2B2A2B2AB2A29B$A.A.2A2.
2B3AB4A32B$2A2.6B2AB2A12B2A22B$6.6B2A13B2A16B3.4B$6.28B3.2B2.4B4.4B$.
A4.11B3.B2.10B8.4B5.4B$.3A3.8B9.6B11.2B2AB5.4B$4.A2.8B10.3B12.A.A2BAB
5.4B$3.A2.AB.5B11.B12.3A.A.2AB6.4B$3.4A7B10.2A11.A4.A2.4B5.4B$7.2B.3B
11.A13.3A.A4.2A6.4B$5.2AB17.A14.2A5.A8.4B$5.A18.2A22.3A6.3BA$3.A.A44.
A7.3BA$3.2A54.3AB!
... and to construct a gun_3818 (=lcm(166,46)) in 3234 cells (very likely suboptimal).

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x = 77, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$3.A.A44.A$5.A18.2A22.3A$5.2AB17.A14.2A5.A24.2A$7.2B.3B11.A13.3A.
A4.2A23.A.A$3.4A7B10.2A11.A4.A2.4B24.AB$3.A2.AB.5B11.B12.3A.A.2AB5.4B
3.B.9B2.2B$4.A2.8B10.3B12.A.A2BAB5.4B.19B$.3A3.8B9.6B11.2B2AB5.2A8B3A
11B2A$.A4.11B3.A2.10B8.4B6.2A8BA3BA9B2A$6.7B2A3BA3BA11B3.2B2.4B7.B.7B
A4BA7B.B$6.6B3A3BA8B2A16B9.8BA3BA6B$2A2.9BA3BA5B2A2B2A18B4.3B.B.3B$A.
A.2A2.8B2A6BA24B2.11BA3BA6B$2.AB2A3.15BA36BA4BA7B.B$.A2.B4.4B4A3BAB2A
21B2.14BA3BA9B2A$.2A.2A2.10BA2B4.13B.B8.13B3A11B2A$2.A.A4.5B4A5B2.7B.
B15.27B$2.A.A5.6BA7B26.4B.B.3B.9B2.2B$3.A6.13B28.4B18.AB$11.11B30.4B
16.A.A$11.11B31.4B15.2A$10.13B6.A24.4B$9.7BA6B5.A.A24.4B$10.5B4A5B4.A
.A25.4B$7.B2AB.2BA10B2.2A.3A24.4B$7.4ABA3B4A4B4.B4.A24.4B$6.ABA15B3.
2AB3A26.4B$6.2A7B2A8B2.2A.A29.4B$7.B.6BA3BA9B32.4B$10.4BA3B3A6B35.4B$
10.A3BA3B2A7B36.4B$12.A3.11B4.A32.4B$18.8B3.3A33.4B$18.8B2.A37.4B$19.
5B.BA2.A37.4B$19.7B4A38.4B$20.3B.2B43.4B$25.B2A42.4B$27.A43.3BA$27.A.
A42.3BA$28.2A43.3AB!
EDIT from my phone after seeing the new post:
iNoMed wrote:
December 30th, 2022, 10:41 am
Here's a reduction to the p168 gun from 37x37 to 33x34 by opting for an LCM-based build...
Wow, nice to see that the glider manages to escape even when faced with a domino spark from the p21 honey farm hassler.
As a corollary, we have gun_252 (=lcm(36,21)) reduced from 2132 (period-quadrupled p63) to 1972 cells, and gun_504 from 2296 to 2030 cells:

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x = 58, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
48bo$36bo9b3o$35bobo7bo$35bobo7b2o$26b2o5b3ob2o$2o23bo2bo3bo$bo24bobo
2bo2b2ob2o10b2o5b2o$bobo18b2o3bo3b3obob2o9bo6bobo$2b2o5bo2bo10bob2o15b
3o6bo3bo$9bobo5b2o6bo7b2o6bo2bo7bo$8b3o5b3o6bo7b2o6bob2o5b2obobo$8b4o
4bobo23bo8bo3bo$7bobo6b2o32b2o$8b2o11b2o27b2o4bo$20bobo14bo17b2o$13bo
6b3o15b2o10bo4b2o$13bo6b2o28b3o2bo$12b2obo33bo4b2o$11bo3b2o33bobo$10b
obo36b2obobobo$10bo2bo21b2o14bobob2o$11b2o9b2o5bo7bo13bobo$21bo6b3o3b
o17b2o$24bo2b5o2bo3bo$20bo3bo2b5o2bo3b4o$19bobo2bo4bo6bo$19bo2bo$20b2o
8b2o$25b2obo4bob2o$25bo10bo$26b2o6b2o9b2o$23b3o2b6o2b3o2b2o2b2o2b2o6b
o$23bo2bo8bo2bo2bobo2bo2b2o4bobo$24b2o10b2o4b3o11b2o$43b2o!
EDIT2: I have just submitted a bunch more in this commit.
Last edited by GUYTU6J on December 31st, 2022, 1:28 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » December 30th, 2022, 10:41 am

Here's a reduction to the p168 gun from 37x37 to 33x34 by opting for an LCM-based build instead of directly period-multiplying a period-24 glider stream:

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x = 33, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
26b2obo$26bob2o$30b2o$3bo11b2o10b2o3bo$3b3o9bo6b2o3bob2obo$6bo2bo3bobo
6bobo5b2o$5bo2b2o3b2o9bo4bo$5b4o2bo10bo3bo2bo$10b2o12bobob2o$7b2o2bo
12bo4bo$4bobo2b2o7bo4bo4b3o$2b3ob2o10bobo3bo4bo$bo16bo5bobob2o$2b4o16b
o3bo2bo$4bob2o6b2o8bo4bo$22bobo5b2o$8bobo11b2o3bob2obo$11bo15b2o3bo$8b
2obo18b2o$10bo15bob2o$19bobo4b2obo$2b2o16b2o$bobo16bo$bo$2o$6b2o8b2obo
$7bob2o2b4ob2o$10bo2b2obo3b2o$9bo2bo4bobo2bo$17bo2b3o$9b3o3bob3o$7bo5b
o3bo2bo$6bobo4bo5b2o$6b2o6bo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 30th, 2022, 12:40 pm

Would a p17 gun done with p34 guns be smaller than the current version?

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » December 30th, 2022, 1:56 pm

Quick sidenote on the p504 gun: That can be solved by period-tripling the p168 gun via tremi-snark:

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x = 45, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
3bo11b2o7b2obo5b2o$3b3o9bo7bo4bo4bobo$6bo2bo3bobo7b2o6b2o2bo2b2o$5bo2b
2o3b2o9bobob2o2bob2obobo$5b4o2bo10bo4bo4bobo2bo$10b2o12bo4bob2ob3obo$
7b2o2bo12bo4bo6bobo$4bobo2b2o7bo4bo11b2ob2o$2b3ob2o10bobo3bo4bo6bobo$b
o16bo5bo4bob2ob3obo$2b4o16bo4bo4bobo2bo$4bob2o6b2o8bobob2o2bob2obobo$
23b2o6b2o2bo2b2o$8bobo12bo4bo4bobo$11bo12b2obo5b2o$8b2obo$10bo20b4o$
19bobo8bo3bo$2b2o16b2o8b2o$bobo16bo$bo37b2o$2o37bobo$6b2o33bo$7bob2o
30bob2o$10b3o18b2o5b2obobo$8bo4bo17b2o5b2obobo$8bob2o2bo26bob2o$5bo4bo
bobo7b2o14b4o2bo$4bob3obob2o7bobo14bo3b2o$3bobo3bobo9bo18b2o$3bo2bo4bo
8b2o19bo$4b2o5b2o26bo$39b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by confocaloid » February 4th, 2023, 3:56 pm

Kazyan wrote:
September 18th, 2022, 11:23 am
Almost a joke: NW-23T224.

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x = 53, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.D3.D8.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D5.D$2D2.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D
3.2D$D.D.D.D3.D11.D5.D3.D7.D5.D2.D.D$D2.2D.D.D.D.5D4.D4.2D4.D6.D5.D2.
D2.D$D3.D.D.D.D9.D7.D3.D5.D5.D3.5D$D3.D.2D.2D8.D4.D3.D3.D4.D5.D7.D$D
3.D.D3.D7.5D2.3D4.D3.5D.5D4.D4$.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$D3.D.D3.D7.D
3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$4.D.D
.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D9$43.
A$41.3A$16.2A22.A$17.A13.2A6.B2A$17.A.AB9.B2A2B3.4B$18.2AB.3B6.4B2.4B
$20.7B2.12B$20.21B$21.20B$20.22B$18.24B2.B$16.26B.B2A$16.2BC25B2A$15.
3BCBC21B.2B$16.2B3C21B$15.5BC20B$14.27B$.B11.4B.22B$.2B9.4B.19B$.3B4.
28B$.4B3.28B$2.4B.28B$2.31B$2.32B$.32B$2.30B$3.28B$2.29B$.30B$.30B$.
29B$.19B3.7B$.19B5.5B$.11B2.3B.B6.3B.B2A$2.10B17.BA.A$3.9B20.A$5.8B
19.2A$5.8B$6.6B$6.4B.B$7.6B$10.2A.A2.A$11.A.4A$9.A.A$9.2A2.2A$14.A$
13.A$13.2A!
guntrue_563 destroyed via complementary Bronco:

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x = 79, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
67.2A$66.B2AB$67.3B$66.B.B8.2A$66.5B6.A$66.6B2.BA.A$61.11B2.B2A$59.2A
14B$2.A46.2A5.3B2A15B$2.3A45.A4.20B$5.A22.2A20.A.A20B.B2A$4.2AB6.2A
13.A15.A6.2A19B2.BA.A$4.4B3.2B2AB9.BA.A15.3A6.19B5.A$5.4B2.4B6.3B.B2A
19.A5.19B5.2A$5.12B2.7B20.2A5.21B$5.21B20.B6.23B$5.20B19.3B6.20B2A2B$
4.22B16.6B4.21B2A2B$.B2.24B11.10B2.25B$2AB.27B2.2B3.11B.26B$2A25BC15B
2A3BD25B$.2B.21BCBC15B2A2B2D25B$4.21B3C18B2D27B$5.20BC21BD27B$5.43BD
26B$6.22B.4B.14B5.22B$10.19B.4B4.B.7B7.19B$10.28B4.4B9.18B$10.28B3.4B
11.7B.9B$11.28B.4B10.6B4.8B$13.31B10.2A8.9B$12.32B11.A8.10B$13.32B7.
3A8.12B.B$14.30B8.A10.13B2A$15.28B21.12B2A$15.29B19.2A9B2.B$15.30B13.
2A2.A2BA5B2.2B$15.30B13.A3.BABA.2B3.B2A$16.30B9.2A.A.4BA8.A.A$16.7B3.
21B9.A.A.2AB8.A.A.3A$16.5B5.22B7.A2.A.BAB8.2A5.A$14.2AB.3B6.B.3B2.15B
6.2A2.A4.A12.2A$13.A.AB17.10B2.4B10.5A$13.A20.9B4.4B$12.2A19.8B7.4B7.
A.2A$33.8B8.4B6.2A.A$34.6B10.4B$34.B.4B11.4B$33.6B13.4B$29.A2.A.2A17.
4B$29.4A.A19.4B$34.A.A18.4B$31.2A2.2A19.4B$31.A25.4B$32.A25.4B$31.2A
26.4B!
Capping it makes a prime-period Herschel/B hassler. Here's the previous guntrue_563 from Catagolue:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_563 costs 5332 cells.
#C period 563 fullperiod 563 bbox 86 by 62
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 86, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
45.A11.2A$44.A.A9.B2AB$36.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$35.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$35.
A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$36.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$38.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$37.A2.BA.A2.13B
$32.A3.A.2BA.A5.13B$30.3A3.2A.2BA5.15B$29.A10.3B4.15B$29.2A10.2B.B
.17B$26.5B3.29B$24.5B4.16B2A13B$24.7B2.16B2A14B$23.9B.27B3.B2A$24.
35B4.A2.A$23.20B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$22.18B14.6B7.A$21.17B14.9B6.2A$
20.17B15.2A4.4B22.A$19.18B16.A5.4B12.2A5.3A$18.12B.8B11.3A7.4B10.B
2AB3.A$17.13B3.B3.2A11.A10.4B9.3B4.2A$16.14B7.A24.4B.2B2.AB2.B2.5B
$15.15B8.3A22.6B4A8B$14.16B10.A22.5BAB5A5B2A$13.19B31.4B2A6BA4B2A$
12.4B.17B29.5B3ABA3BA2B.B$5.28B2A26.2AB.4B2A2BABA3B$4.27B.BA.A24.A
.AB4.7B$4.27B4.A24.A8.7B$4.28B3.2A22.2A8.7B$4.29B35.9B$.B.11B2.2B
2.14B33.9BAB$2A9B10.8B2.4B22.2A8.8B3A$2A7B12.7B4.4B22.A9.6BA2BA$.
7B14.5B6.4B21.A.AB4.7B2AB3AB$.7B15.6B5.4B10.A10.2AB.10B5ABA$3.5B
19.2A6.4B7.3A12.12BA2BA4B$5.4B18.A8.4B5.A15.17BA2B$4.4B20.3A6.4B4.
2A15.20B$3.B2A2B23.A6.9B14.16BABA2B$4.2A22.2A.A7.6B14.19BA3B$28.2A
.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B.B.B.B2A$32.A2.A4.35B6.BA.A$33.2AB3.27B.9B8.A
$34.14B2A16B2.7B9.2A$35.13B2A16B2.7B$36.29B4.6B$36.17B.B.2B10.7B$
37.15B4.3B10.6B$37.15B5.A2B.2A6.7B$38.13B5.A.A2B.A7.5B$40.13B2.A.A
B2.A8.6B$39.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.9B$39.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A5.2A.7B$39.5B8.B2.A
.A3.A.A5.A5.4B$39.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A2.3A7.4B$40.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A
10.3BA$39.B2AB9.A.A23.3BA$40.2A11.A25.3AB!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by confocaloid » February 5th, 2023, 7:51 am

There might be more improvements by connecting Bronco to some of recently found components.

Period 487 gun reduced from 110x68=7480 to 78x54=4212 cells:

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x = 78, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A35.2A$20.A19.2A14.A$20.A.AB16.2A11.BA.A12.2A$21.2AB23.3B.B.B2A
12.B2AB$23.3B14.4A3.7B15.2B$23.4B13.A3.A2.7B16.2B3.B$24.4B14.BA2B.7B
15.4B.B2A$16.A8.4B13.BABA10B11.8B2A$15.A.A8.4B12.2B2A13B2.2B2.6B2AB.B
$16.A10.4B9.2A.28B2A$28.4B8.A4.28B$14.5A10.4B5.A.A6.30B$2A12.A4.A10.
4B4.2A7.30B$A5.2A8.BAB.A10.4B11.30B2A$.3A.A.A8.B2A.A2.A8.4B9.4B8.4B.
14B2A$3.A.A8.A4B.A.A.A8.4B7.4B10.4B2.11B.B$4.2AB3.2B.ABAB3.A2.A10.4B
5.4B12.4B2.10B$4.2B2.5BA2BA2.2A14.4B3.4B14.14B$2.B2.9B2A20.4B.4B16.
14B$.2A12B22.7B17.13B$.2A13B10.A11.5B7.2A.2A2.2A2.13B$2.B.12B8.3A11.
5B8.A.A2.A.A2.8B.2B$5.10B8.A13.7B6.A3.2A.B3.8B$6.9B8.2A11.4B.4B6.2A.A
2.2B2.9B$7.8B4.6B10.4B3.4B6.A.A.BA2B.10B$6.9B.7B11.4B5.4B5.A.A.A.A8B.
4B$6.18B9.4B7.4B5.2A.2A.8B2.4B$6.19B7.7B.B4.4B12.5B4.4B$4.22B5.14B.4B
10.6B5.4B$4.53B4.6B5.4B$4.26BA27B2.7B6.4B$4.24B2A28B2.6B8.3BA$5.24B2A
3B2A22B.7B9.ABA$5.29B2A31B9.2A$3.26B.11B3.2B2.19B10.B$3.25B2.10B11.
17B$2.2B2A21B4.6B16.15B3.B$2.2B2A20B6.3B19.15B.B2A$3.23B6.B20.18B2A$
5.21B5.2A20.12B2A3B.B$2A5.19B5.A22.11B2A2B$.A5.19B6.3A19.10B2.2B$.A.A
B2.19B2A6.A21.B.6B3.2B$2.2AB.20BA.A31.4B2.B2AB$4.20B4.A30.B2A2B3.2A$
3.15B2A3B5.2A30.2A$4.14B2A$2.2AB2.11B$.A.AB2.6B$.A6.5B$2A8.B.B$9.3B$
9.B2AB$10.2A!
Previous design:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_487 costs 7480 cells.
#C period 487 fullperiod 487 bbox 110 by 68
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 110, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
71.2A3.2A$20.2A3.2A44.2A2.A.3A$20.2A2.A.3A46.A4.A$24.A4.A41.4A.2A
2.A$20.4A.2A2.A41.A2.A.A.A.2A$20.A2.A.A.A.2A42.BABABA.A$22.BABABA.
A44.B2ABA.A$23.B2ABA.A25.2A3.2A13.2B.BA$24.2B.BA24.3A.A2.2A12.3B$
23.3B26.A4.A7.2A6.4B8.A$14.2A6.4B26.A2.2A.4A4.A6.B2A3B6.3A$15.A6.B
2A3B23.2A.A.A.A2.A4.A.AB3.B2A3B9.A$15.A.AB3.B2A3B24.A.ABABAB7.2AB.
10B6.A.A$16.2AB.10B22.A.AB2AB10.13B5.A.AB$18.13B22.AB.2B11.14B5.A
3B$18.14B24.3B10.15B6.4B$18.15B23.4B6.2A3.8B2.4B5.6B$20.8B2.4B20.
3B2AB6.A4.6B5.4B4.7B$20.6B5.3BA19.3B2AB3.BA.A3.9B4.4B2.8B.4B.B$19.
9B4.3BA16.10B.B2A3.4B4.2A5.17B.B2A$18.4B4.2A5.3AB14.13B4.4B5.A7.
18B2A$17.4B5.A7.4B12.14B3.4B7.3A4.16B.2B$16.4B7.3A5.4B10.15B2.4B
10.A4.16B$15.4B10.A6.4B8.4B2.8B3.4B16.15B$14.4B19.4B6.4B5.6B2.4B
15.2AB.12B$4.A8.4B21.4B4.4B4.13B15.A.AB2.11B$2.5A5.4B5.2A16.4B2.4B
5.2A4.6B16.A5.10B$.A5.A4.4B5.A18.8B7.A5.4B16.2A5.2B2A6B$.A2.3AB2.
7B.BA.A19.6B5.3A5.6B21.3B2A6B$2A.A.2B3.7B.B2A21.4B5.A7.8B21.10B$A
2.4A12B22.6B4.2A5.4B2.4B20.8B.B2A.A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B21.13B4.4B4.4B18.
7B3.B2AB3A$3.3AB.2B2A7B20.4B2.6B5.4B6.4B11.2A4.6B6.B4.A$3.A.B3.10B
19.4B3.8B2.4B8.4B8.A2.A5.6B4.2A.3A$2A.A8.8B6.A10.4B2.15B3.2A5.4B5.
5A6.5B6.A.A$2A.2A7.9B5.3A7.4B3.14B5.A5.4B4.A10.6B6.A.A$13.3B2.4B7.
A5.4B4.13B6.A.AB.7B2.B3A7.6B7.A$11.5B3.4B5.2A4.4B3.2AB.10B8.2AB.7B
3.2B.A5.7B$11.2A7.4B4.9B3.A.AB3.B2A3B12.12B4A5.7B8.A$12.A8.4B5.6B
4.A6.B2A3B12.7B2A3BAB2.2A3.8B5.3A$9.3A10.4B2.8B3.2A6.4B14.7B2A2B.B
3A2.A2.8B4.A$9.A13.15B10.3B14.10B3.B.A.2A3.8B3.2A$24.14B11.2B.BA
10.8B8.A6.3B2A2B2.4B$25.13B10.B2ABA.A8.9B7.2A4.5B2A2B.3B$26.10B.B
2A7.BABABA.A7.4B2.3B14.13B$28.3B2AB3.BA.A4.A2.A.A.A.2A5.4B3.5B11.
16B$28.3B2AB6.A4.4A.2A2.A5.4B7.2A10.17B$30.4B6.2A7.A4.A4.4B8.A12.
16B$30.3B12.2A2.A.3A4.4B10.3A10.15B$27.AB.2B13.2A3.2A5.4B14.A10.
13B$26.A.AB2AB23.4B14.A12.11B8.A$26.A.ABABAB21.4B15.2A7.15B6.3A$
25.2A.A.A.A2.A18.4B4.B.7B4.B4.20B3.A$26.A2.2A.4A17.4B.7B3A3B4.25B
3.2A$26.A4.A14.18B5A36B$27.3A.A2.2A9.18BAB5A33B$29.2A3.2A9.17B2AB
3A2B2A33B$45.18B3A2BAB2A34B$45.19BA6B2A33B$42.B.11B2.2B3.6BA2BA34B
$41.2A9B11.5B3A2B2.29B.B2A$41.2A7B16.6B4.8B.19B.BA.A$42.7B19.3B9.
23B5.A$42.9B19.B11.13B.7B5.2A$44.3B2.2A19.2A11.4B3.4B.3B.3B$49.A
21.A12.3BA4.B3.3B2.2B$50.3A17.A14.3BA6.B2AB.B2AB$52.A17.2A14.3AB6.
2A3.2A!
Period 634 gun reduced from 92x62=5704 to 76x68=5168 cells:

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x = 76, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
64.2A$63.B2AB$64.3B$24.2A37.B.B8.2A$23.A2.A36.5B6.A$23.3A37.6B2.BA.A$
58.11B2.B2A$20.A2.5A28.2A14B$7.2A9.3A2.A4.A3.A13.2A5.3B2A15B$6.B2A2B
6.A7.BAB.A.A.A13.A4.20B$7.4B6.2A6.B2A.A.A.A13.A.A20B.B2A$8.4B2.5B4.A
4B.A.2A8.A6.2A19B2.BA.A$7.10B5.ABAB3.A11.3A6.19B5.A$7.12B3.A2BA2.2A
14.A5.19B5.2A$8.12B.2B2A18.2A5.21B$7.16B20.B6.23B$6.17B18.3B6.20B2A2B
$6.17B16.6B4.21B2A2B$7.18B11.10B2.25B$6.22B2.2B3.11B.26B$7.33B2A29B$
7.33B2A29B$8.64B$8.64B$7.65B$8.17B.4B.14B5.22B$8.17B2.4B4.B.7B7.19B$
10.17B.4B7.4B9.18B$10.17B2.4B5.4B11.7B.9B$10.2B2A13B3.4B3.4B10.6B4.8B
$9.2BA2BA12B4.4B.4B11.2A8.9B$9.3B2A12B6.7B13.A8.10B$5.A4.9B2A5B7.5B
11.3A8.12B.B$5.3A4.7B2A3B9.5B11.A10.13B2A$8.A.13B9.7B22.12B2A$7.A.A6B
.6B8.4B.4B20.2A9B2.B$7.BA2B.4B.7B6.4B3.4B14.2A2.A2BA5B2.2B$8.2B3.4B.
6B5.4B5.4B10.A2.A3.BABA.2B3.B2A$9.2B3.B3A5B5.4B7.4B8.A.A.A.4BA8.A.A$
8.B2AB3.A7B4.4B9.4B8.A2.A.2AB8.A.A.3A$9.2A5.A7B2.4B11.4B10.A.BAB8.2A
5.A$17.7B.4B13.4B10.A4.A12.2A$18.10B15.4B10.5A$18.9B17.4B$18.8B19.4B
10.A$18.8B.2A17.4B8.A.A$18.9B2A2B16.4B8.A$18.13B17.4B$18.14B17.4B$17.
9BA4B19.4B$16.4B2.3B2A5B19.4B$15.4B2.4B2A5B.B18.4B$14.4B.14B2A18.4B$
4.B2.18B3A5B2A19.4B$3.16B3A12B21.4B$3.16BA3BA3BA6B22.4B$.18BA7BA2B27.
4B$.19BA6BA2B28.4B$BA14B2.2B2.2A3BA3B.B26.4B$ABA10B11.8B2A26.4B$ABA8B
15.4B.B2A27.4B$.A8B17.2B3.B29.4B$.10B15.2B35.4B$2.9B14.B2AB35.4B$3.8B
15.2A37.4B$3.7B56.3BA$4.5B58.3BA$6.2B60.3AB!
Previous design:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_634 costs 5704 cells.
#C period 634 fullperiod 634 bbox 92 by 62
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 92, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
63.2A3.2A$61.3A.A2.2A$60.A4.A$33.2A3.2A20.A2.2A.4A$33.2A2.A.3A17.
2A.A.A.A2.A$37.A4.A17.A.ABABAB$33.4A.2A2.A17.A.AB2AB$33.A2.A.A.A.
2A17.AB.2B$35.BABABA.A21.3B$36.B2ABA.A21.4B6.2A$37.2B.BA20.3B2AB6.
A$36.3B23.3B2AB3.BA.A$27.2A6.4B21.10B.B2A$28.A6.B2A3B18.13B$28.A.A
B3.B2A3B17.14B$29.2AB.10B14.15B$31.13B12.4B2.8B$31.14B10.4B5.6B$
31.15B8.4B4.9B$33.8B2.4B6.4B5.2A4.4B$33.6B5.4B4.4B7.A5.4B$32.9B4.
4B2.4B5.3A7.4B$13.2A16.4B4.2A5.8B6.A10.4B$6.2A3.2B2AB14.4B5.A7.6B
19.4B$5.B2AB2.4B14.4B7.3A5.4B21.4B$6.2B3.6B.B9.4B10.A4.6B21.4B$7.
2B2.10B6.4B15.8B21.4B8.A$6.2B2A11B5.4B4.A10.4B2.4B14.2A5.4B5.5A$3.
B.3B2A12B3.4B5.3A7.4B4.4B11.A2.A5.4B4.A5.A$2.2A18B2.4B9.A5.4B6.4B
10.2A.A.AB.7B2.B3A2.A$2.2AB.15B2.4B9.2A4.4B4.A3.4B11.A.2AB.7B3.2B.
A.2A$3.B3.15B2A2B10.9B4.A.A3.4B10.A3.12B4A2.A$7.16B2A13.6B5.A.A4.
4B7.3A3.7B2A3BAB2.2A$8.14BA4B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.2A4.4B5.A6.7B2A2B.B3A
$8.35B4.A2.A2.A4.4B4.2A5.10B3.B.A$9.7B.27B3.B2A2.2A5.9B4.8B8.A.2A$
9.6B2.16B2A14B11.6B5.9B7.2A.2A$8.7B.17B2A13B12.8B2.4B2.3B$8.6B.32B
11.15B3.5B$9.9B7.2B.B.17B11.14B7.2A$9.8B7.3B4.15B12.13B8.A$8.8B4.
2A.2BA5.15B10.2AB.10B10.3A$A7.7B5.A.2BA.A5.13B10.A.AB3.B2A3B14.A$
3A5.6B7.A2.BA.A2.13B12.A6.B2A3B$3.A3.7B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B10.2A6.4B$2.
2A3.7B6.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B19.3B$2.12B5.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B20.2B.BA$4.10B5.
A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B19.B2ABA.A$3.11B6.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B19.BABABA.A$4.
10B14.A.A9.B2AB16.A2.A.A.A.2A$3.11B15.A11.2A17.4A.2A2.A$3.12B49.A
4.A$3.13B44.2A2.A.3A$7.4B2.4B43.2A3.2A$6.B2A2B3.4B$5.A2BAB5.4B$4.A
.2A2B6.4B$4.A.3B8.4B$.2A.A4.A8.4B$.2A.2A3.3A7.3BA$12.A7.3BA$11.2A
8.3AB!
Period 661 gun reduced from 84x77=6468 to 86x68=5848 cells:

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x = 86, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
74.2A$73.B2AB$74.3B$73.B.B8.2A$73.5B6.A$73.6B2.BA.A$68.11B2.B2A$11.2A
53.2A14B$10.B2AB6.2A34.2A5.3B2A15B$11.3B4.2B2AB34.A4.20B$12.B2.2B.4B
13.2A20.A.A20B.B2A$10.13B12.A15.A6.2A19B2.BA.A$10.15B7.BA.A15.3A6.19B
5.A$10.15B3.3B.B2A19.A5.19B5.2A$10.23B20.2A5.21B$9.24B20.B6.23B$8.24B
19.3B6.20B2A2B$8.25B16.6B4.21B2A2B$9.26B11.10B2.25B$8.9B.20B2.2B3.11B
.26B$5.2B.9B2.31B2A29B$4.2A11B3.7B.22B2A29B$4.2AB.9B3.6B2.54B$5.B3.7B
3.7B2.54B$9.7B3.7B3.53B$9.7B4.6B10.4B.14B5.22B$8.8B4.6B11.4B4.B.7B7.
19B$6.11B5.5B11.4B7.4B9.18B$5.11B2A5.2A.A2.A9.4B5.4B11.7B.9B$4.3B2A7B
2A6.A.4A10.4B3.4B10.6B4.8B$5.4BA8B4.A.A16.4B.4B11.2A8.9B$5.BA11B4.2A
2.2A14.7B13.A8.10B$4.3B2A10B8.A15.5B11.3A8.12B.B$4.16B6.A16.5B11.A10.
13B2A$5.16B5.2A14.7B22.12B2A$5.4BA11B20.4B.4B20.2A9B2.B$5.3BABA10B19.
4B3.4B14.2A2.A2BA5B2.2B$4.4BABA9B19.4B5.4B10.A2.A3.BABA.2B3.B2A$2.7BA
10B18.4B7.4B8.A.A.A.4BA8.A.A$.B2A6B5.4B18.4B9.4B8.A2.A.2AB8.A.A.3A$2B
3A4B7.2B18.4B11.4B10.A.BAB8.2A5.A$3B2AB3AB5.BA18.4B13.4B10.A4.A12.2A$
6B3A2B4.A.A16.4B15.4B10.5A$BABA2B2A4B4.2A15.4B17.4B$BABA2BA2BA3B19.4B
19.4B10.A$.A3B2AB2A4B10.A6.4B21.4B8.A.A$.2BA2BA.2B.4B7.3A5.4B23.4B8.A
$2.B2AB2A4.4B5.A7.4B25.4B$3.BA2BAB4.4B4.2A5.4B27.4B$5.2BAB5.9B4.4B29.
4B$4.A2BAB6.6B5.4B31.4B$5.2A8.8B2.4B33.4B$13.15B35.4B$13.14B37.4B$13.
13B39.4B$11.2AB.10B41.4B$10.A.AB3.B2A3B44.4B$10.A6.B2A3B45.4B$9.2A6.
4B48.4B$18.3B49.4B$19.2B.BA47.4B$18.B2ABA.A47.4B$17.BABABA.A48.4B$15.
A2.A.A.A.A.2A46.4B$15.4A.2A2.A2.A47.4B$19.A4.2A50.3BA$17.A.A57.3BA$
17.2A59.3AB!
Previous design:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_661 costs 6468 cells.
#C period 661 fullperiod 661 bbox 84 by 77
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 84, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
53.2A5.2A$52.B2AB3.B2AB9.2A$53.5B.4B9.A$53.6B.2B.2B.B2.BA.A$52.16B
.B2A$51.19B$51.19B$51.19B$49.20B$25.2A3.2A16.16B.3B$23.3A.A2.2A16.
12BA6B$22.A4.A21.10B2A4B$22.A2.2A.4A17.4B3A2B2A4B2AB10.2A$21.2A.A.
A.A2.A18.2BA5B2A4B3A9.B2AB$22.A.ABABAB21.2A5B2A4B3AB5.B.4B$22.A.AB
2AB21.BABA3BA6B3A2BABA6B$23.AB.2B18.AB.2BAB3AB3A2BA3BABA2BA7B$26.
3B16.A.A3B2A6B3A2BA15B$26.4B6.2A7.2A.2B3A11BA9BA5B$24.3B2AB6.A12.B
3A12BA10BA3B$9.A14.3B2AB3.BA.A12.A2BA13BA3BA4BA4B$9.3A10.10B.B2A
14.2A15BA6B.5B$12.A8.13B16.18B2.B2A.8B$11.2A7.14B16.4B4.9B4.B3.3B
2.2A$11.5B3.15B15.4B6.11B4.2B4.A$13.3B2.4B2.8B5.A10.4B7.12B2.2BAB
4.3A$2A.2A7.9B5.6B5.3A7.4B8.12B3.A.A6.A$2A.A8.8B4.9B7.A5.4B10.11B
4.A$3.A.B3.10B5.2A4.4B5.2A4.4B9.4B.8B$3.3AB.2B2A7B6.A5.4B4.9B10.2A
4.7B$.2A2.BA3B2A7B3.3A7.4B5.6B12.A4.7B$A2.4A12B3.A10.4B2.8B9.3A6.
6B$2A.A.2B3.7B.B2A.A11.15B7.A8.7B$.A2.3AB2.7B.BA.A.2A10.14B16.8B$.
A5.A4.4B5.A2.A11.13B17.8B$2.5A5.4B5.2A14.10B.B2A15.9B$4.A8.4B22.3B
2AB3.BA.A13.6B.4B$14.4B21.3B2AB6.A13.7B.4B$15.4B22.4B6.2A13.6B2.4B
$16.4B21.3B22.6B3.4B$17.4B17.AB.2B23.6B4.4B$18.4B15.A.AB2AB21.8B4.
4B$19.4B14.A.ABABAB19.8B6.4B$20.4B12.2A.A.A.A2.A17.9B6.4B$21.4B12.
A2.2A.4A17.9B7.3BA$22.4B11.A4.A20.10B8.ABA$23.4B11.3A.A2.2A16.3B2A
5B9.2A$24.4B12.2A3.2A10.2A3.4B2A5B10.B$25.4B29.A3.11B$26.4B28.A.A
12B$27.4B22.2A4.2A2.8B$28.4B22.A9.7B4.2A$29.4B21.A.AB7.6B4.A$30.4B
10.A10.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$31.4B7.3A12.14B.B2A$32.4B5.A15.16B$33.4B4.
2A15.14B$26.2A6.9B14.16B$27.A7.6B14.18B$27.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B$
28.A2.A4.35B$29.2AB3.27B.7B$30.14B2A16B2.6B$31.13B2A16B3.6B$32.29B
6.4B$32.17B.B.2B12.B2A2B$33.15B4.3B12.2A.B2A$33.15B5.A2B.2A11.BA.A
$34.13B5.A.A2B.A14.A$36.13B2.A.AB2.A15.2A$35.8B4.2A.A.A3.A$35.6B6.
2ABA2.4A.A$35.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A$35.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$36.3B9.A.A2.2A
3.A$35.B2AB9.A.A$36.2A11.A!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » February 14th, 2023, 4:42 pm

gun_455 to 63x44=2772 using a new p13 quinti-Snark:

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x = 63, y = 63, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A12.2A$3.A.A12.A.A20.2A$3.A16.A19.B2AB$2A.2A2.10B2.2A.2A5.2A.4B5.2B
$2A.A.2B4A2B4A2B.A.2A4.A.A2B3AB5.2B$3.A.3A2BA2BA2B3A.A7.A.3A2BAB4.3B$
3.2A.3BA4BA3B.2A6.2A.AB3ABAB3.3A2B$5.BA2BA4BA2BAB6.BAB.4A.B3A.2B2ABA2B
$3.6A6B6A4.3A2B3.2B3A2BA4BAB$3.A2.3B2.2B2.3B2.A4.3AB.4A.BA2BA2B4A2B6.
3B$4.A6.2B6.A5.BAB3ABA.2A4.5A5B2.6B$.3A8.B7.3A3.BA2B3A.A5.19B$.A9.2AB
8.A3.B3A2BA.A3.20B$2.2A6.B2A2B5.2A5.4B.2A3.22B$3.A4.8B4.A16.22B$3.A.A
B.8B.BA.A14.24B$4.2AB.2B2A4B.B2A15.22B.B2A$6.3BA2BA5B17.20B3.BA.A$6.3B
A2BA5B17.2BA7B.B3.B10.A$6.4B2A6B18.A8B16.2A$8.10B17.B3A5B4.A$10.5B2A6.
A10.4B2.B6.A.A$10.4B2A2B5.3A7.4B2.2B6.A.A$9.5B.BA2B7.A5.4B2.B3A4.2A.2A
$9.6B.4B5.2A4.4B3.6A.2B4.A$8.6B3.4B4.9B3.ABA6B4A2.A$4.B2.3BA3B4.4B5.6B
4.2AB.4B.AB.3A$2.7BABA2B5.4B2.8B5.B3.4AB2AB2.3A$2.7BABA2B6.15B8.3B2A3B
A3.A$.9BA3B7.14B10.B.A.A.BABA.A$.11B.B2A6.13B10.A.A.4A3BA2.A$2.9B2.BA
.A6.10B.B2A6.3A.2A2.B.2B2.3A$2.7B7.A8.3B2AB3.BA.A4.A3.A3.2AB4A$3.6B7.
2A7.3B2AB6.A4.2A2.A.2A.2B4.A$4.4B19.4B6.2A8.A.A.AB4A$5.4B18.3B19.A.A2B
A2.3A$6.4B14.AB.2B20.A.2A2B2A2.A$7.4B12.A.AB2AB16.2A.A.AB.A.A$8.4B11.
A.ABABAB16.A.A.2B3A$9.4B7.2A.A.A.A.A2.A13.A2.ABAB$10.4B6.A2.A2.2A.4A14.
2A4.5A$11.4B7.2A4.A20.4A2.A2.A$12.4B12.A.A18.A2.A4.2A$13.4B12.2A$14.4B
$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.4B$25.4B$26.
4B$27.4B$28.4B$29.4B$30.BABA$31.B2A$32.A!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Sokwe » March 6th, 2023, 7:15 am

iNoMed wrote:
March 6th, 2023, 4:42 am
p68 gun reduced via new engine:

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x = 41, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$16bo$16bob2o3b2o$17bobo4bo15bo$6b2o11bob3o14b3o$7bo10b2obo15bo$
7bobo28bo$8b2o21b4o4bo$37bobo$33b3ob2o$34b2o$15b3o$15b3o$14bo19b3o$2o
13b2o12bo5bo$bo13b2o13bo4bo$bob2o23b3o$2bo16b2o$19b2o$6bo14bo$4b2o12b
3o$18b3o4$26b2o$26bobo$14bob2o10bo$12b3obo11b2o$11bo4bobo$11b2o3b2obo$
19bo$19b2o!
Minor reduction using a different p4 sparker found with JLS:

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x = 39, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$16bo$16bob2o3b2o$17bobo4bo$6b2o11bob3o10b2ob2o$7bo10b2obo13bobo$
7bobo23bobo2bo$8b2o22b3ob3o$32b2o$13b3o16bo2bob2o$22b2o11bo2bo$11b2o2b
ob2o2b4o8bobobo$10bobobo4b2o4bo8b2ob2o$9b5o5bo2b4o8bo$2o6b6o12b2o7b4o$
bo5b2o2b2o2bo3bobo4bobo9bo$bobo3bo5bo2b4o2bo5bo8bo$2b2o3bobo4bobo3bo2b
2o2b2o8b2o$8b2o12b6o$10b4o2bo5b5o$10bo4b2o4bobobo$11b4o2b2obo2b2o$12b
2o$20b3o15bo$36bobo$26b2o9b2o$26bobo$14bob2o10bo$12b3obo11b2o$11bo4bob
o$11b2o3b2obo$19bo$19b2o!
JLS returned no solutions in a width-38 bounding box, even when accounting for different spark types and locations.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by MathAndCode » April 6th, 2023, 9:08 pm

carsoncheng wrote:
April 1st, 2023, 10:57 am
Small p64 blinker factory (suppressed by blocks) by mvr:

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$b2o8b2o$2bo15bo$bo15bo2bo3b2o$b2o14bo2bo3b2o$3bo13b2o$b3o11bo$o
12bo2bob2o$2o10b2o2$28b2o$29bo$26b3o$18b3o5bo$4b2o21b2o$4b2o22bo$27bo
$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!
It helps make a new-smallest p960 gun (1472, with the previous minimum size being 1680).

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x = 46, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
28b2o11b2o$29bo11bo$28bo13bo$28b2o5bo5b2o$31b2obobob2o$26b5obobobobob
5o$25bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo$26b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o$28bo5bobo5bo2$29bo3bo3bo3b
o$31bo7bo2$11b2o$b2o8b2o$2bo$bo$b2o$3bo5b3o$b3o$o$2o2$16b2o10b2o$10b2o
bo2bo12bo$14bo11b3o$11b2o13bo$4b2o3bo2bo14b2o$4b2o3bo2bo15bo$11bo15bo
$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!
There are other interesting rephasing reactions. This one achieves p2240.

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x = 30, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
15bo2bo$19bo$14bo5bo$14b2o4bo$19bo$18bo$17b4obo$17bo3bo$15bo3bo$14bob
4o$18bo$17bo$16bo4b2o$16bo5bo$17bo$18bo2bo2$11b2o$b2o8b2o$2bo15bo$bo15b
o2bo$b2o14bo2bo$3bo13b2o$b3o11bo$o12bo2bob2o$2o10b2o2$28b2o$29bo$26b3o
$18b3o5bo$4b2o21b2o$4b2o22bo$27bo$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!
This one is p576 but, unlike the previous two examples, technically does not do better than an LCM oscillator considering the periods of the engine and added oscillator.

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x = 40, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
36bo$35bobo$35bobo$34b2o2b2o$36bobo$34b3o2bo$33bo3bobo$31b2ob3obo$36b
o$11b2o23bo$b2o8b2o18b2ob3obo$2bo15bo14bo3bobo$bo15bo2bo13b3o2bo$b2o14b
o2bo15bobo$3bo13b2o15b2o2b2o$b3o11bo19bobo$o12bo2bob2o15bobo$2o10b2o22b
o2$28b2o$29bo$26b3o$18b3o5bo$4b2o21b2o$4b2o22bo$27bo$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!


Edit: Here is a new-smallest p892 gun (1369, with the previous minimum being 5254):

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x = 37, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32b4o$19bo11b2obobo$14b2o2bo11b2o3b2o$14b2ob2o12bo$18b2o9bo$19b
o10b3o$16b3o2b2o5b2o2b2o$16b2obobo9b2o2b2o$15bobob2o11b3o$14b2o2b3o14b
o$17bo15bo$17b2o9b2o3b2o$18b2ob2o5bobob2o$18bo2b2o6b4o$17bo12b2o3$11b
2o$b2o8b2o$2bo15bo5bo$bo15bo2bo2bobo$b2o14bo2bo3bo$3bo13b2o$b3o11bo$o
12bo2bob2o$2o10b2o2$28b2o$29bo$26b3o$18b3o5bo$4b2o21b2o$4b2o22bo$27bo
$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!
Also, here is a p4480 gun, which Catagolue did not have.

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x = 46, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
15b4o$14bo3bo$14bo4bo$15bobob2o7b2o11b2o$19bobo7bo11bo$18b2o2bo5bo13b
o$14b2o2bo9b2o5bo5b2o$18bo2b2o8b2obobob2o$14bo2b2o7b5obobobobob5o$15b
obo7bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo$16b2obobo4b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o$17bo4bo5bo5bobo5bo$
18bo3bo$18b4o7bo3bo3bo3bo$31bo7bo$24b2o$11b2o11b2o$b2o8b2o$2bo15bo$bo
14b2obo$b2o16bo$3bo11bo3bo$b3o9bob2obo$o11bobo$2o10bobo2$28b2o$29bo$26b
3o$4b2o12b3o5bo$4b2o21b2o$28bo$27bo$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!


Another edit: Here is a p1728 gun, which Catagolue did not have.

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x = 58, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
41b2o$41b2o$41b2o$41b3o$41bo2bo$41bob2o3$37bobo6b2o$37bo2bo5bob2o$36b
o3bo4b2o$36b4o6bo2bo$38bo8b2o$32b2o18b6o$31bobo20b4o$28b4o20bobo$28b6o
18b2o$37b2o8bo$36bo2bo6b4o$39b2o4bo3bo$36b2obo5bo2bo$11b2o25b2o6bobo$
b2o8b2o3bo$2bo13bo3bo3bo$bo19bobobo15b2obo$b2o18bo2bo16bo2bo$3bo15b3o
20b3o$b3o9b2o4bo23b2o$o11b2o29b2o$2o11b2o28b2o2$28b2o$29bo$19bo6b3o$19b
o6bo$4b2o13bo7b2o$4b2o22bo$27bo$17b2o8b2o$17b2o!
Also, the p4480 gun turned out to need a tremi-Snark.

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x = 56, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$14b2o2bo$14b2o2bo$18b2o8b2o11b2o$21bo7bo11bo$17bobobo6bo13bo$16b
2o3bo6b2o5bo5b2o$15bo3b2o10b2obobob2o$15bobobo6b5obobobobob5o$15bo9bo
6bobobobo6bo$17b2o7b3obo2b2ob2o2bob3o$18bo2b2o5b3o9b3o$18bo2b2o$16b2o
3$11b2o31bo$b2o8b2o29b3o$2bo14b2o22bo$bo14b2ob2o3bo16b2o$b2o13bo3bo3b
o$3bo10bo3b3o3bo25b2o$b3o9bo2b2o32bobo$o12b3o36bo$2o50bob2o$49b2obobo
$28b2o19b2obobo$29bo13b2o7bob2o$26b3o4b2o7bo2bo3b4o2bo$4b2o12b3o5bo5b
obo8b2o4bo3b2o$4b2o21b2o3bo18b2o$28bo2b2o19bo$27bo22bo$17b2o8b2o21b2o
$17b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » April 9th, 2023, 11:52 am

p960 gun reduced to 49x27 (1323-cell BB) probably:

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x = 49, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$20b2o8b2o$21bo$20bo18b2o2b2o$20b2o18b2ob2o$22bo15bobo$20b3o8b3o
4bo$19bo11bo$19b2o10b3o2$47b2o$26b2o20bo$24b2ob2o16b3o$24bobob3o6b3o5b
o$6b2o16bo3bo17b2o$7bo39bo$b2ob3o21bobo15bo$b2obo23b2o6b2o8b2o$20b2o
14b2o$b3o16bo2bo$o2bo6b2o5bo3bobo$2o7b3o3bo3bo$6bob2o5bo$6bo2bo4bo5bo$
6bob2o9b2o$9b3o$10b2o!
Edit: p1656 gun reduced by using the tricks of the trade to compact the p72's stabilisation massively:

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x = 54, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
40b2o3bo$25b2o13b3obob2o4b2o$o24b2o13b3o4bo4b2o$3o40bo3bo$3bo40b3o$2b
2o22b2o3b2o$25b3o3b3o10b3o$23b3o7b3o7bo3bo$23b3o7b3o4b3o4bo4b2o$18bo4b
3o7b3o4b3obob2o4b2o$8b3o7bo2bo3b3o3b3o6b2o3bo$8bobo11bo3b2o3b2o$8bo7bo
4bo2$5b2o9bo3bo$5b2o12b2o3$7b2o5bo$3b2obobo4bobo7b2o$3bob2obobobobo2b
5o2bo$7bobob2o2b2o5b2o$7bobo3b2o9b3o$8bobobo2bobo3bobo2bo$9bo3b2o4bo4b
2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » April 22nd, 2023, 4:42 am

p1564 gun reduced from 60x52 (3120-cell BB) to 53x27 (1509-cell BB) using the p68 century hassler against a twin-bees shuttle:

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x = 53, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
41b2o$24b2o15bobo7b2o$12b2o10b2o17bo7b2o$12b2o27b3o2$10b4o14bo$10bo2bo
12bo3b2o$25b2obob2o9b3o$24b2o6bo10bo7b2o$25b2obob2o9bobo7b2o$bo24bo3b
2o9b2o$b3o10bobo11bo$4bo8bob2o$3b2o9b2o2$11bo$11bobo$13bo$2b2o8bo$bobo
27bo$bo27bobo$2o28b2o$19b2o$19bo$20b3o$22bo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by hotdogPi » April 27th, 2023, 10:02 am

The p35 pseudo-gun was never updated when the new p70 gun was found. However, this isn't optimal; the large p5 sparker was used as a catalyst on the side in addition to its sparker use. Now that it's no longer needed as a catalyst, it can be made smaller, but I don't know how.

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x = 113, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
83bo$82b3o$74b2o4b2o3bob2o$74b2o4bo2b2o2b2o$80bob2o$72bo$70b3o34bo$69b
o35b3o$69b2o9bob2o20bo$67b3o4b2o4bo2b2o2b2o15b2o$66bobo5b2o4b2o3bob2o
13b3o$66bo2bo12b3o8bo7bobo$67b2o14bo7b3o7bo2bo$90bo11b2o$90b2o2$80b3o
5bo$69b2o8bo2bo$64b2o2b2o2bo5bo25b2o$52b2o8bo4b2o2b2o6bo2bo16b2o2b2o2b
o$49b2o2bo8bo5bo2bo3b2o3b3o14bo4b2o2b2o$22bo25bo2b2o5b2o3b2o3bo2bo5bo
19bo5bo2bo3b2o$21b3o24bobo2b3o2bo8b2o2b2o4bo14b3o3b2o3bo2bo5bo$19b2obo
bo24bobobo2bobo8bo2b2o2b2o16bo2bo6b2o2b2o4bo$18bo2bob2o5b2o19bo4b3obo
8b2o25bo5bo2b2o2b2o$5b2o9b2o3bob3o2bo2bo15b5obo5bobo24bo5bo2bo8b2o$6bo
8bobob2o4b6o15bo5bobobobo2bo22b2o6b3o$6bobo5bo2bo7b5o3b2o12b3o2bobo3bo
bo24b2o$7b2o3b5o7bo2bo5bobo14bobo5bob2o$11b6o4b2obobo8bo11b4ob5obo2bo
9b2o$10bo2bo2b3obo3b2o9b2o10bo3bo7bo10bo2bo17bo14b2o$10b2o5b2obo2bo24b
3o2bob4o12bobo16b3o12bo2bo$17bobob2o8b2o5b2o10bob4o14b3o13b2obo3b2o4b
2o5bobo$18b3o11bo5bo11bo6b2o10b2o15b2o2b2o2bo4b2o4b3o$19bo28bob5o3bo2b
o8bo20b2obo9b2o$48b2o4bo3bobobo4b3o35bo$33b2ob2o13b2o4b2ob2o5bo34b3o$
20b3o29b2o48bo$19bo2bo9bobobobo11bo6b5o29b2obo$10b2o10bo8bo7bo9bob5ob
2o2bo24b2o2b2o2bo4b2o$11bo7bobo8bo2bo3bo2bo8bobo4bo4bob2o21b2obo3b2o4b
2o$11bobo6bo9b3o5b3o7b2o2bo5b3obobo25b3o$12b2o33bo2bobo7bobo28bo$23bo
22bobobob2o6bob2o3bobo$b2o5b2o12bobo19bo2bo2b2o3bo2b2obo5b2o$b2o5b2o7b
2o3b2o7b2o5b2o4b2obobo2bo2bobo3bo6bo$16bobo12b2o5b2o7bob4ob2o2b3o$17bo
29bo4bob3obo$48b5o4bo$3o5b3o9bo29bo2bo$o2bo3bo2bo8bobo34bo10bo2b2o$bo
7bo8bo47bobo2bo$2bobobobo9bo2bo10bo33bobobo$18b3o9bobo14bo17b2obob2o$
3b2ob2o23b2o13bobo3b2o11bo2bo3bo$47bo4b2o12bo2b3obo$21bo35bobo5bo2b2o
3bo$2bo5bo11b3o36bo6bo2b4o$b2o5b2o8b2obobo31bo9bo2bo$17bo2bob2o5b2o24b
o3bo5b2obob5o$4b2o9b2o3bob3o2bo2bo22bo5bo6bobo2bo2bo$5bo8bobob2o4b6o
36bo2bo$5bobo5bo2bo7b5o3b2o18bo5bo8b2o$6b2o3b5o7bo2bo5bobo17bo$10b6o4b
2obobo8bo17b2o$9bo2bo2b3obo3b2o9b2o17bob2o$9b2o5b2obo2bo31b2o$16bobob
2o36b2o$17b3o38bobo$18bo41bo$60b2o!
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100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,44,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by dvgrn » April 27th, 2023, 11:03 am

hotdogPi wrote:
April 27th, 2023, 10:02 am
Now that it's no longer needed as a catalyst, it can be made smaller, but I don't know how.
Before anybody goes too far on firing up JLS, the new p70 gun implies some possible alternate welds.

This looks like the kind of situation where a long skinny rectangle with an extra glider-stream reflector will have a smaller bounding box than the direct option. In particular, 128x56 (top left) is smaller than 115x73:

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x = 313, y = 265, rule = LifeHistory
243.2A$212.2B26.2A2.A$211.4B24.A2.2A5.2A$210.2B3A24.A.A2.3A2.A$62.2A
146.BA3BA24.A.A.A2.A.A$31.2B26.2A2.A143.3B2A3BA5.2A19.A.3A2BA.A$30.4B
24.A2.2A5.2A10.2A16.A97.2A9.BAB2A3B2A2.BA.AB14.5A.A.2B2.A.A$29.2B3A
24.A.A2.3A2.A10.A2.A13.3A98.A8.B2ABA2BA5B3A2B13.A5.A.5A2.A$29.BA3BA
24.A.A.A2.A.A5.A2.A2.A.A12.A101.A.AB4.B2A9B2A3B.B2A12.3A2.A.A2B.A.A
13.2A3.2A$26.3B2A3BA5.2A19.A.3B3A.A3.5A.A.2A11.2A101.2AB.3B2A9B2AB4.B
A.A14.A.A2.2B.A.2A10.3A.A2.2A$15.2A9.BAB2A3B2A2.BA.AB14.5A.A.2B2.A.A
8.AB.A2B6.5B103.2B3A5BA2BAB2AB8.A11.4A.7A2.A9.A4.A$16.A8.B2ABA2BA5B3A
2B13.A5.A.ABABA2.A4.3AB.3A2B4.BA3B105.BA.AB2.2A3B2ABAB9.2A10.A3.A3.A
3.A11.A2.2A.4A$16.A.AB4.B2A9B2A3B.B2A12.3A2.A.A2B.A.A4.A.B.B4A6BABA3B
105.2A5.A3B2A3B22.3A2.A.4A11.2A.A.A.A2.A$17.2AB.3B2A9B2AB4.BA.A14.A.A
2.2B.A.2A3.A.2AB.3A2B.2BA2BA4B111.A3BAB8.2A5.2A10.A.2A2B15.A.ABABAB$
19.2B3A5BA2BAB2AB8.A11.4A.5ABA2.A4.A3.AB.A2B.3B2A4B113.3A2B7.ABAB3.BA
BA9.A4.2B2A12.A.AB2AB$19.BA.AB2.2A3B2ABAB9.2A10.A3.A3.B3.A7.2A.A.2A5.
6B114.4B8.3B5.3B7.A.4A2B2.A2.A10.AB.2B$20.2A5.A3B2A3B22.3A2.A.4A9.A.A
.A6.5B116.3B.4B4.B.B3.B.B8.2A4.2A2.A.A.A12.3B$27.A3BAB8.2A5.2A10.A.4A
11.A2.A.A5.7B20.B3.B90.9B.4B2A.2A4B9.2A4.2A.2A12.5B6.2A$28.3A2B7.ABAB
3.BABA9.A4.2B2A8.2A2.A5.4B.4B18.4B3A89.15BA.A6B9.2A.2A2.A13.3B2AB6.A$
28.4B8.3B5.3B7.A.5AB2.A2.A14.4B3.4B14.2B.3B4A.2B84.11B.4B2A.2A4B8.A3.
4A2B2A10.4B2AB3.BA.A$29.3B.4B4.B.B3.B.B8.2A4.AB2.A.A.A12.4B5.3BA12.2A
4B2A3B4A76.2A5.11B.3B2A3.2A3B7.A.2A2BA.AB2.A9.10B.B2A$29.6B3A.4B2A.2A
4B9.2A4.2A.2A12.4B7.B2AB11.2AB.B2A2B2A.3A77.A5.3BA7B.B2ABAB.BAB2AB7.A
.A2.ABA4.A.2A5.13B$29.6B3A6BA.A6B9.2A.2B2.B13.4B9.ABAB11.B.4B4AB.B78.
A.AB2.B2A7B.3B2A2B.2B2A3B5.2A2.2A2B2.B2A.A.A4.14B$27.2BA5B2AB.4B2A.2A
4B8.A3.3B5A10.4B11.4B13.3B.3B5.A76.2AB.3BABA5B2.6B.6B5.A2.A.A.A4B.A.A
5.15B$20.2A5.BABA7B.3B2A3.2A3B7.A.5A.2A2.A9.A3B6.A6.4B24.3A76.6B2A2B
2AB4.B.B3.B.B6.A.A.A.BAB4A.A.2A3.4B2.8B19.B3.B$21.A5.BA2BA3B2AB.B2ABA
B.BAB2AB7.A.A2.2BA4.A.2A5.BABA7.3A5.4B11.3B.3B8.A62.2A5.2A4.3BA2B2AB
2A2B3.3B5.3B3.A2.A2.AB.2A3B2A.A4.4B5.6B18.7B$21.A.AB2.B2AB2A4B.3B2A2B
.2B2A3B5.2A2.A3B2.3A.A.A4.2B2A11.A5.4B7.B.4B4AB.B4.2A61.B2AB3.B2AB3.
2B3AB.B3A2B3.B2AB3.B2AB3.2A.A.A2.2A.3B3.A3.4B4.9B14.2B.B2A4B.2B$22.2A
B.3BABA5B2.6B.6B5.A2.A.A.5B.A.A5.4B11.2A6.4B5.2AB.B2A2B2A.3A3.4B59.3B
5.3B3.2B2AB2A2BA3B4.2A5.2A7.A.4A.A2B.3A3.A3B5.2A4.B3A12.2A3BABA6BA$
24.6BA6B4.B.B3.B.B6.A.A.A.2A5B.A.2A3.4B12.4B5.4B4.2A4B2A3B4A5.B2A59.B
.B3.B.B4.B2A2B2A7B19.A4.B.A2B.A4.BABA7.A5.A3B11.2AB.BA2BA2B.B2A$11.2A
5.2A4.13B3.3B5.3B3.A2.A2.2A.2BA2B2A.A4.4B15.B2A5.4B4.2B.3B4A.2B5.BA.A
57.6B.6B2.5BABA7B19.3A2B2A3B4.2B2A5.3A7.A3B11.B.3BA3BAB.B$10.B2AB3.B
2AB3.6B.6B3.B2AB3.B2AB3.2A.A.A2.AB.ABA3.A3.4B15.BA.A6.4B6.4B3A8.B2A
57.3B2A2B.2B2A3B.7B2AB2.4B20.A.2B4A3.4B6.A10.4B13.3B.ABA5.A$10.3B5.3B
3.13B4.2A5.2A7.A.4A.2AB.3A3.4B16.B2A8.4B6.B3.B9.3B58.B2ABAB.BAB2AB.7B
A3B3.4B24.2B3.4B3.2A6.2A6.4B24.3A$11.B.B3.B.B4.6BA7B19.A4.A.3A.A4.4B
17.3B9.4B6.5B7.3B59.3B2A3.2A3B.11B4.4B23.B.B.4B3.A2.A4.A.3A5.4B11.3B.
ABA8.A$9.6B.6B2.5BABA5BAB19.5A4BA4.4B17.3B11.15B5.B3A59.4B2A.2A4B.11B
5.4B19.10B4.A.A2.A2.A4.A5.4B7.B.3BA3BAB.B4.2A$8.3B2A2B.2B2A3B.4B2AB2A
B2.2B2A20.A.BA4B3.4B17.B3A12.6B2A6B3.3B3AB57.6BA.A15B8.4B13.AB3.9B4.
2A.A.5A3.2A6.4B5.2AB.BA2BA2B.B2A3.4B$9.B2ABAB.BAB2AB.B2A3BA2BAB3.2A2B
24.BA3.4B3.A2.2A8.3B3AB11.BA3BA2BA5B3.2BA2B3AB56.4B2A.2A4B.9B9.4B11.A
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11.A4B2A8B.3A2B.2ABA7.B2A5.4B4.2B.B2A4B.2B5.BA.A$9.4B2A.2A4B.B2A5BA2B
5.4B19.10B4.A.A.A9.2B3A3BA2B3.3B2A12B2.4B2ABA3BA2B54.3B5.3B8.4B10.2B
2A11.B.13B3A2B2A.A.A5.BA.A6.4B6.7B8.2AB$8.6BA.A6B3A6B8.4B13.AB3.4BA4B
4.2A.A.2A6.4B2ABA3BA7B3A15B2A3BA2BA3B54.ABAB3.BABA7.2B3A11.2A2B13.12B
3A2B.2AB.A5.2AB8.4B6.B3.B9.3A$9.4B2A.2A4B.3A6B9.4B11.A.A6B3A7BA.BA3.A
4.3B2A3BA2BA9B3A.3A9BA2BA3B2A3B56.2A5.2A8.BA3BA11.4B15.8B.BAB.2A3.A6.
3A9.4B6.5B7.3A$11.B.B3.B.B4.4B.3B10.4B11.A6BA3BA3B.3BAB.3A.A2.3BA2BA
3B2A15B3A7BA3BAB2A4B71.3B2A3BA5.2A5.4B14.7B4.2A.A.2A6.3A11.15B5.AB2A$
10.3B5.3B8.4B10.4B11.B.5B2ABA6BA2B2A.B.A2.2BA3BAB2A4B2.12B2A3B3.2BA3B
3A2B62.2A9.BAB2A3B2A2.BA.AB5.4B12.7B6.A.A.A6.AB2A12.6B2A6B3.BA2B3A$
10.ABAB3.BABA7.2B3A11.4B13.5B2A8BAB.4A4.2BA3B3A2B3.6B2A4B3A3B5.B3A2BA
2B63.A8.B2ABA2BA5B3A2B6.4B11.5B8.A.A2.A3.BA2B3A11.5BA2BA5B3.B3A2B3A$
11.2A5.2A8.BA3BA11.4B15.8B.2BA.BA10.B3A2BA2B3.5BA2BA3BAB11.B3A3B63.A.
AB4.B2A9B2A3B.B2A5.4B9.7B8.A2.2A3.B3A2B3A5.9B3A6B3.A5B2ABAB$25.3B2A3B
A5.2A5.4B14.7B4.2A.A.5A6.B3A3B3.6B2A5B13.3AB66.2AB.3B2A9B2AB4.BA.A5.
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5.2AB11.3A3BAB2A4.4B18.2A5.2A4.7BA2B2AB3.3B5.3B$4.2AB5.2A3BA8BA4.4B5.
4B11.A.BAB2AB3.4B18.B2AB3.B2AB3.3B2AB.B2A3B3.B2AB3.B2AB$5.4B3.2AB.BA
5B.2BA5.4B6.2A16.2B3.4B3.A2.2A11.3B5.3B3.B2A2BA7B4.2A5.2A$7.2A4.B.3B
3AB2A.A7.4B5.A17.B.B.4B3.A.A2.A12.B.B3.B.B4.B2A2BA7B$7.A8.3B.2AB11.4B
5.3A11.10B4.A.A.A11.6B.6B2.2B3ABA4B.B2A$8.3A24.4B6.A6.AB3.9B4.2A.A.2A
9.4BA2B.2BA4B.4B4A2B2.BA.A$10.A5.3B.2AB13.4B11.A.A3B3ABA7BAB.BA3.A9.
2B2A2B.2B2A2B.8BA2B5.A$13.B.3B3AB2A.A11.4B11.A4B4A6B.BA3B.ABA.A8.B2AB
A3.AB2AB.11B5.2A$12.2AB.BA5B.2BA11.4B11.B.5B3A6BA3B2A.B.A8.2A2BAB.BA
2B2A.11B$12.2A3BA8BA12.4B13.13BA3B.AB2A8.B2AB2AB.B2AB2A10B$13.2B.2BA
4B.2A14.4B15.8B.BAB.BA13.2AB2AB.B2AB2A.9B$16.3BA2BA18.4B14.7B4.2A.A.
5A9.A.B3.B.A4.4B.3B$17.B3.A20.4B12.7B6.A.A2.A2.A8.B2A5.2AB8.4B$43.4B
11.5B8.A2.A13.B2AB3.B2AB7.3BAB$44.4B9.7B8.2A15.2A5.2A8.2BABAB$45.4B4.
B2.3BA3B40.4BA3BA5.2A$46.BABA.7BABA2B29.2A9.4BA3BAB2.BA.AB$47.B2A.7BA
BA2B30.A8.2B3AB2AB3A2B2A2B$48.A.9BA3B30.A.AB4.B2AB2A3BAB2A4B.B2A$50.
11B.B2A29.2AB.4B2ABA3B2AB2AB4.BA.A$51.9B2.BA.A30.2B2A2B3AB2AB3A2B8.A$
51.7B7.A30.BA.AB2.BA3BA4B9.2A$52.6B7.2A30.2A5.A3BA4B$53.4B47.BABA2B$
54.3BA47.BA3B$55.3BA46.4B$56.3A47.2B11$68.2A$68.A$69.3A$71.A!
Reducing the Unnecessarily Big Sparker will cut one more row off, so 128x55. But depending on what reflector (bouncer, bumper, Snark) and gun orientation is used, there could be other sparkers that could usefully be welded to that sparker, in various locations.

Old pseudo p35 gun, just for reference:

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x = 123, y = 87, rule = LifeHistory
81.A16.2A$81.3A13.A2.A$84.A12.A.A2.A2.A$83.2A11.2A.A.5A$83.5B6.BAB.BA
$85.3BAB4.BA3B.AB2A$84.3BABA5BA3B2A.B.A$83.4BA2BA2B.BA3B.ABA.A$84.4B2A
3B.BAB.BA3.A$85.6B5.2A.A.2A$86.5B6.A.A.A$85.7B5.A.A2.A$84.4B.4B5.A2.2A
$83.4B3.4B$82.4B5.4B$81.4B7.4B$80.4B9.BABA$79.3AB11.B2AB$23.2A16.A36.
3BA13.A3B$22.A2.A13.3A35.3BA15.4B$17.A2.A2.A.A12.A24.2A11.4B17.4B$17.
5A.A.2A11.2A23.A2.A8.4B19.4B$23.AB.BAB6.5B24.5A5.4B5.2A14.4B$19.2ABA.
3BAB4.5B31.A4.4B5.A16.4B$18.A.B.2A3BA11B27.3AB2.7B.BA.A17.4B$18.A.ABA
.3BAB.B2AB2A4B25.A.2B3.7B.B2A19.4B$19.A3.AB.BAB.2BA2BA3B26.4A12B22.4B
$20.2A.A.2A5.B2A3B25.2A2.BA3B2A7B23.4B13.2A$21.A.A.A6.5B25.A2.3AB.2B2A
7B13.2A9.4B12.A$20.A2.A.A5.7B24.2A.A.B3.10B13.A11.4B5.B2.BA.A$20.2A2.
A5.4B.4B26.A8.8B9.2A.A.B10.4B3.3B.B2A$29.4B3.4B25.2A7.9B8.A2.3A2B9.4B
.6B$28.4B5.4B34.3B2.4B8.2A3.2A10.10B$27.4B7.4B31.5B3.2B2A9.2ABA12.9B$
26.4B9.4B16.2A12.2A7.BABA8.A.2AB6.2A4.2B3A2B$25.4B11.4B12.2A2.A13.A8.
A3B9.BAB2.2A2.A4.3BAB2AB$24.4B13.4B10.A2.2A5.2A4.3A10.4B9.B3.A.A.A3.6B
2A$23.4B15.4B9.A.A2.3A2.A5.A13.4B4.B3.B4.B.A3.4B2.3B$22.4B17.4B9.A.A.
A2.A.A20.9B2.3B.2B4.4B3.3B$21.4B19.4B10.A.3B3A.A19.9B.7B2.4B6.B$20.4B
14.2A5.4B5.5A.A.2B2.A.A19.16B.4B6.A3B$19.4B16.A5.4B4.A5.A.ABABA2.A19.
20B6.A2B2A$18.A3B17.A.AB.7B2.B3A2.A.A2B.A.A19.21B6.B3A.A$17.A3B19.2AB
.BA5B3.2B.A.A2.2B.A.2A19.20B7.A.2BA$16.B3A22.2BA2BA6B4A.5ABA2.A19.21B
6.BAB2.2A$2A13.4B23.2BA2BA6BAB2.A3.B3.A20.11BA11B4.BAB3A2.A$.A12.4B9.
2A13.3BABA5B.B3A2.A.4A20.11BABA9B2A3.2AB4.A$.A.AB2.B5.4B11.A13.10B3.B
.A.4A22.4B.6B2AB2A8B2A3.2A.3A.2A$2.2AB.3B3.4B10.B.A.2A9.8B8.A4.2B2A18.
4B5.17B5.2A2.A.A$4.6B.4B9.2B3A2.A8.9B6.A.5AB2.A2.A14.A3B6.16B6.AB2A2.
A$4.10B10.2A3.2A8.4B2.3B7.2A4.AB2.A.A.A12.BABA5.18B2.2A.3B.A.A$4.2B2A
5B12.AB2A9.4B3.5B8.2A4.2A.2A12.2B2A5.18B3.A2.B.A2.A$5.A2BA3B4.2A6.B2A
.A8.4B7.2A9.2A.2B2.B13.4B6.7BABA9B3.7A$5.BABA4B4.A2.2A2.BAB9.4B8.A8.A
3.3B5A10.4B8.5BABAB2A8B$6.BA6B3.A.A.A3.B9.4B10.3A4.A.5A.2A2.A9.4B4.2A
2.7BABA10B4.2A.2A$6.3B2.4B3.A.B4.B3.B4.4B13.A4.A.A2.2BA4.A.2A5.4B4.B2A
2B.18B5.2A.2A$6.3B3.4B4.2B.3B2.9B18.2A2.A3B2.3A.A.A4.4B6.2A2B2.17B$6.
B6.4B2.7B.3BA5B18.A2.A.A.5B.A.A5.4B6.3A2B3.17B$4.3BA6.BABA.11B3A2B18.
A.A.A.2A5B.A.2A3.4B6.AB2AB3.14B.B2A.A$4.2A2BA6.B2A12BA2BAB16.A2.A2.2A
.2BA2B2A.A4.4B3.2A.A.A.2BA2.B2AB2.B2.B5.B2AB3A$3.A.3AB6.BA13BA2BA2B15.
2A.A.A2.AB.ABA3.A3.4B4.2A.A2.A3B3.2A5.3B6.B4.A$3.A2B.A7.15BA2BAB19.A.
4A.2AB.3A3.4B8.A.2A3BA8.B2AB5.2A.3A$.2A2.BAB6.16B3A2B19.A4.A.3A.A4.4B
9.A.BA.2BA9.2A7.A.A$A2.3ABAB4.17BA5B19.5A4BA4.4B11.A.A.2A19.A.A$.A4.B
2A3.2B2A4B2A15B20.A.BA4B3.4B13.AB.A21.A$2A.3A.2A3.AB2A3BABA11B.4B24.B
A3.4B3.A2.2A7.2BA$.A.A2.2A5.3A2B2ABA8B5.4B23.B.B.A3B3.A.A2.A6.BA2B2A$
.A2.2ABA6.3BAB2A9B6.4B19.6BA3B4.A.A.A5.A2B.A.A.A.2A$2.A.A.3B.2A2.3B2A
2B2A9B5.4B13.AB3.6B3A4.2A.A.2A3.A.3AB2A.2A.A$3.A2.A.B2.A3.4B2A4BA7B5.
4B11.A.A3B2A11BA.BA3.A2.A3.2B2.A$4.7A3.A4BA5BA7B6.4B11.A4B2A8B.3BAB.3A
.A.A3.A.2A2.2A$13.BA9B2A6B8.4B11.B.15BA2B2A.B.A.A.3A.A4.A$4.2A.2A4.A4B
ABAB2A9B2.2A4.4B13.15BAB.4A3.A4.A2.A$4.2A.2A5.A6B2A9B.2B2AB4.4B15.8B.
2BA.BA9.3A3.2A$14.17B2.2B2A6.4B14.7B4.2A.A.5A2.2A$13.17B3.2BAB7.4B12.
7B6.A.A2.A2.A$11.A.A2B.14B2.BA.AB7.BABA11.5B8.A2.A$9.3AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2A
B3.AB.2AB6.B2AB9.7B8.2A$8.A4.B6.3B5.2A6.3B2AB5.A3B4.B2.3BA3B$9.3A.2A5.
B2AB12.A3BA.A5.4B.7BABA2B$11.A.A7.2A15.ABAB3A4.11BABA2B$11.A.A24.BAB4.
A4.11BA3B$12.A24.A.AB3A.A5.12B.B2A$36.A.A.A2.A.2A5.10B2.BA.A$36.A.A.2A
.A9.3BA3B7.A$37.2A.A2.A10.3BA2B7.2A$41.2A12.3AB!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by nokangaroo » May 11th, 2023, 12:35 pm

Pseudo p35 gun:

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x = 115, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
81.B3.B$23.2B55.7B$22.4B51.2B.B2A4B.2B$21.5B50.2A3BABA6BA$21.2B3AB49.
2AB.BA2BA2B.B2A$18.5B3AB5.2A43.B.3BA3BAB.B$7.2A9.4BA3BAB2.BA.AB39.A5.
3B.ABA$8.A8.2BA3B2A2BA3B2A2B16.2A3.2A14.3A34.A$8.A.AB4.2BAB2ABA3B2A4B
.B2A13.A2.A.A2.A12.A8.3B.ABA20.3A$9.2AB.4B2A3BAB2ABA2B4.BA.A12.A.2A.
2A.A12.2A4.B.3BA3BAB.B16.A$11.2B2A3BA2B2A3BA2B8.A11.2A2.A.A2.2A9.4B3.
2AB.BA2BA2B.B2A15.2A$11.BA.AB2.BA3BA4B9.2A9.A2.3A.3A2.A7.2AB5.2A3BABA
6BA13.4B$12.2A5.B3A5B21.2A2.A.A2.2A8.A.AB5.2B.B2A4B.2B5.A7.2AB$19.B3A
2B8.2A5.2A9.3A.3A11.2AB8.7B6.3A7.A.AB$20.5B7.B2AB3.B2AB5.A.A2.B.B2.A.
A8.3B9.B3.B6.A11.2AB$20.4B8.3B5.3B5.2A.A2B.2BA.2A9.3B7.5B7.2A10.3B$
21.3B.4B4.A.B3.B.A9.2AB.B2A12.4B5.7BA2BA4B11.3B$21.9B.BABA2B.2BABAB4.
2A.3B.3B.2A8.B2A4B3.7BA3BAB13.4B$21.10B2AB2AB.B2AB2AB4.A.AB3.BA.A7.2B
ABA4B3.6BA7B11.B2A4B$19.11B.BA2BAB.BA2BAB5.A.ABA.ABA.A5.3BA2BA4B3.7BA
4B2A4B5.2BABA4B$12.2A5.11B.2BA2B3.2BA2B4.2A.ABA.ABA.2A3.4B3A7B2.6BA5B
A4B3.3BA2BA4B$13.A5.7BA3B.2B3AB.B3A2B5.A.2AB.B2A.A4.5BA19BAB2A10B3A7B
$13.A.AB2.2A4BABAB.7B.7B4.A.A.3B.A.A5.9BA14B.14BA9B$14.2AB.A2B2A2BABA
B2.6B.6B6.2A.3A.2A7.7B3A10B2ABA19BA5B$16.6BA3BA2B4.B.B3.B.B10.ABABA
11.4BA2BA3B3.4BA5BA6B2.7B3A4B$3.2A5.2A4.2B2A9B3.3B5.3B4.2A3.A.A.A11.
4BABA2B5.4B2A4BA7B3.4BA2BA3B$2.B2AB3.B2AB3.5BA.A5B3.B2AB3.B2AB5.A4.AB
A12.4B2AB11.7BA6B3.4BABA2B$2.3B5.3B3.9B2A2B4.2A5.2A4.A6.3B14.4B12.2BA
3BA7B3.4B2AB$3.B.B3.B.B4.2BA3BA7B15.A.4A3.B16.3B11.4BA2BA7B5.4B$.6B.
6B2.BABA2B2A2BA4B14.BA3.BA3.4B13.3B9.4B6.5B7.3B$7B.7B.BABA4B2A2.4B14.
B2A2BA3.B2A4B10.B2A8.4B6.B3.B9.3B$.2B3AB.B3A2B.3BA7B3.4B14.A3B2.3B2A
6B8.BA.A6.4B6.7B8.B2A$.2BA2B3.2BA2B.11B4.4B11.2A.2BA.13B8.B2A5.4B4.2B
.4B2AB.2B5.BA.A$.BA2BAB.BA2BAB.11B5.4B8.3A.2A3.12B7.4B5.4B4.A6BABA3B
2A5.B2A$B2AB2AB.B2AB2A10B8.4B6.A4.A3.13B3.2A2.2A6.4B5.2AB.2BA2BAB.B2A
3.4B$.BABA2B.2BABAB.9B9.4B6.3A.A3.12B5.A3.A5.4B7.B.BA3BA3B.B4.2A$3.A.
B3.B.A4.4B.3B10.4B7.2A5.10B4.A2.3A5.4B11.ABA.3B8.A$2.3B5.3B8.4B10.4B
15.5B2A5.3A7.4B24.3A$2.B2AB3.B2AB7.5B11.4B14.4B2A2B7.A5.ABAB13.ABA.3B
5.A$3.2A5.2A8.2B3AB11.3BA12.7BA2B5.2A4.B2AB11.B.BA3BA3B.B$17.5B3AB5.
2A5.ABAB11.6B.4B4.8BA11.2AB.2BA2BAB.B2A$6.2A9.4BA3BAB2.BA.AB5.2A2B9.
6B3.4B5.6B12.A6BABA3B2A$7.A8.2BA3B2A2BA3B2A2B6.4B4.B2.3BA3B4.4B2.8B
13.2B.4B2AB.2B$7.A.AB4.2BAB2ABA3B2A4B.B2A5.4B.7BABA2B5.15B14.7B$8.2AB
.4B2A3BAB2ABA2B4.BA.A5.11BABA2B6.14B15.B3.B$10.2B2A3BA2B2A3BA2B8.A6.
11BA3B7.13B$10.BA.AB2.BA3BA4B9.2A6.12B.B2A6.10B.B2A$11.2A5.B3A5B18.
10B2.BA.A7.3B2AB3.BA.A$18.B3A2B22.BABA3B7.A7.3B2AB6.A$19.5B23.B2A3B7.
2A8.4B6.2A$19.4B25.A3B18.3B$20.2B27.4B14.AB.2B$50.4B12.A.AB2AB$51.4B
11.A.ABABAB$52.4B7.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$53.4B6.A2.A2.2A.4A$54.3BA7.2A4.A$55.
3BA12.A.A$56.3AB12.2A!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » May 20th, 2023, 1:22 am

There is a p42 reflecting duoplet sparker, but it is larger than the p21 domino sparker, making its combination with banana sparkers not favorable in terms of bounding box.
FractalFusion wrote:
December 23rd, 2021, 4:09 am
...
Period 322: 52x40 (down from 51x46)

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x = 52, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
36.2B2A2B.2B2A2B$3.2B2A2B.2B2A2B20.3BA2B.2BA3B$3.2B2A2B.2B2A2B18.AB.
5B.5B.BA$.AB.5B.5B.BA15.A.A6B.6BA.A$A.A6B.6BA.A14.2A.6B.6B.2A$2A.6B.
6B.2A17.6B.6B$3.6B.6B21.5B.5B$4.5B.5B21.2BA3B.3BA2B$3.6B.6B20.3BABA.A
BA3B$3.6B.6B20.3BABA.ABA3B$3.B3A2B.2B3AB20.2BAB2A.2ABA2B$3.2B3AB.B3A
2B20.2B2A2B.2B2A2B$3.AB4A.4ABA20.6B.6B$3.B2A2BA.A2B2AB20.6B.6B$3.2B3A
B.B3A2B20.6B.6B$3.3BA2B.2BA3B17.A2.6B.6B$3.6B.6B15.3A3.5B.5B$4.5B.5B
15.A5.6B.6B$3.6B.6B2.2A10.2A5.5B.5B$4.5B.5B4.A7.5B5.5B.5B$4.5B.5B4.A.
AB3.2A2B7.13B$2.13B5.2AB2.B2A3B5.7B2.3B.2A$.2A.3B2.7B5.10B4.7B2.B2AB.
2A$.2A.B2AB2.7B5.10B2.BA2B.2B4.2A$5.2A4.2B.4B4.9B2.2A2B.3B$11.3B.4B4.
11B2A3.3B$10.3B3.3BA3.12B3.3BAB$9.5B3.ABAB3.10B2.5B2A2B$7.3BABA3B2.2A
2B.B2.7B3.5B3AB$7.2BA2BA3B3.13B5.4B2A3B$6.4BABA2B5.11B7.3BAB.B2A$5.2A
B.5B7.10B8.3B2.BA.A$4.A.AB2.3B8.9B10.B6.A$4.A6.B8.9B18.2A$3.2A16.9B$
22.7B$22.8B$22.8BA$22.9BA$23.3B3.3A!
gun_322 (=lcm(46,14)) is now 1696 cells using the new p14 banana sparker:

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x = 53, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
5.A$5.3A$8.A$7.2A$7.4B$9.B2A$8.BA.A$8.B2A$8.BAB$7.BAB38.2A$6.B2AB38.A
.A$4.2B2A2BA38.AB$4.B2A3B3A6.A8.4B3.B.9B2.2B$4.9BAB3.A.A7.4B.10B4A5B$
2.2B3A2BA3BA2B.2BAB6.2A14BA2B2A3B2A$.2B3A7BA2B2.2B7.2A15BA2B2A2B2A$2B
A7B3A3B.AB9.B.14BA2BA2B.B$2BA3BA2B3A2B.2BA3B9.15B2A2B$.BA9B2.3BA5B4.
2BA.B.A2B$3.3A3B2AB2.8BA2B2.BABABABA10B2A2B$5.A2B2A2B2.2B2A4BA3B2A2BA
BA2B2A7BA2BA2B.B$6.B2AB5.BA4B2.3B2A7B2A7BA2B2A2B2A$6.BAB7.3B5.2B2A2BA
BA2B2A6BA2B2A3B2A$5.BAB8.3B6.3BABABABA8B4A5B$5.2AB6.BA3.AB5.3BA.B.A2B
.9B2.2B$4.A.AB6.2AB.B2A6.4B18.AB$4.2AB6.B2A3.2AB6.4B16.A.A$5.4B5.AB3.
BA8.4B15.2A$7.2A21.4B$7.A23.3BA$8.3A21.3BA$10.A22.3A!
Is there a duoplet or domino sparker that can extract a glider from the banana spark? Clearance issue is due to the toad (34P14 shown for comparison).

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x = 36, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
24b2o5b2o$24b2o5b2o4$24b2o5b2o$23bo2bo3bo2bo$22bo3bo3bo3bo$26b2ob2o$
21bo5bobo5bo$22bo3bo3bo3bo$26bo3bo$23bo9bo$23bo2bo3bo2bo$24b2o5b2o$21b
o$22bo$18b3o2$13bo6bo4b3o$12bobo2bo6b3o$13bo5bo$16b6o$19b3o$24b3o$25b
3o$14bo$13bobo$5b2o5bo3bo$5bobo4bo3bo13b2o$6b2o2b3ob2ob3o10bo$2b2o6b2o
bo3b2ob2o6bobo$bobo6b2ob2o3bob2o6b2o$bo10b3ob2ob3o2b2o$2o13bo3bo4bobo$
15bo3bo5b2o$16bobo$17bo!
EDIT: failed p1610 glider gun owing to a blinker

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#C [[ STOP 1610 ]]
x = 49, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$7bo2b2o$7bobo2bo$6b2obobobob2o$7bo5b2obo$5bo3b3o$4bob3obob4o28b2o
$4bo11bo27bobo$5b3o5b3o30bo$7bo5bo$8b5o25bo3bo4bo$23b2o12bo10bo$23b2o
12bo2b2o2bo2b2o$8b2ob2o25b2o$8b2o29b3o$2o5b4o3bo$bo5b2o2bob2o4bo19b3o$
bobo6b2o26b2o$2b2o7bo2bo4bobo15bo2b2o2bo2b2o$11bo3bo6bo14bo10bo$9bo4bo
3bo2bo16bo3bo4bo$11b2o5bo$8bo37bo$8b3o33bobo$44b2o4$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo
bo$12bo5$13b2o$14bo$13bo$13b2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » June 29th, 2023, 6:28 am

gun_16 reduced from 131x57 (7467-cell BB) to 99x70 (6930-cell BB) using the alternative p32 gun engine build:

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x = 97, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
58b2o5b2o$58bo7bo$50b2o7b3ob3o7b2o$50b2obo7bobo7bob2o$22b2o6b2o5b2o6b
2o7bo15bo$30bo7bo12bo21bo$20bo3bo6b3ob3o6bo3bo3bob2o13b2obo$20bo4bo7bo
bo7bo4bo5b2o13b2o$22bobobo15bobobo$23bobobo13bobobo$24bo4bo9bo4bo$25bo
3bo9bo3bo15b3ob3o$34bo20b2o11b2o$26b2o5bobo5b2o11bobo4b3o4bobo$32bo3bo
17bo7bo7bo$33b3o17b2o6bobo6b2o$27b2o11b2o20bo$26bobo11bobo19bo$26bo5b
2ob2o5bo$25b2o4bo5bo4b2o$32b2ob2o31b2o3bo$32bo3bo35bob2o$33bobo37b3o$
33bobo33bo6bo$3b3o3b3o22bo18bo8bo5bobobobo2bo$21b2o30b3o5bobo5b2obob3o
$b2o3bobo3b2o6bo2bo32bo4bobo$bo4bobo4bo5bo2bo11bo20b2o5bo6b2obob3o$o5b
obo5bo4bo6bo6bobo7bo24bobobobo2bo8bo$bo4bobo4bo4bo2bo3bobo5bobo5b3o3b
2o13bo6bo6bo8b3o$2b3o5b3o6b3o3b2o7bo5bo5bo2bo11bobo9b3o8b2obo$40b2o4b
2obo10b2ob2o7bob2o15b2o$5b2ob2o9b3o3b2o22b2o10bo2bo3b2o3bo18bo$4bobobo
bo7bo2bo3bobo18b2o13b2ob2o25bo$5bo3bo9bo6bo11bo8bob2o7bo3bobo19b2obo$
19bo2bo14bobo7bobo6b2ob2o2bo21b3o$20bo2bo9b2ob2ob2o5b2o2bo5b2ob2o25bo$
10bo10b2o14bobo8b2o5bo3b2o$10bo2b2o23bo7b2o8b3o19bo$3b2o4bo5bo31bo9bo
19b3o$3b2o5bobo2b2o29bo30bob2o$10bo3b2o31b3o3bo19bo$12b3o34bo2bob2o16b
o18bo3b2o$56bo15b2o15b2obo$12b3o21bo15bo2bobo19bob2o8b3o$10bo3b2o19bo
5bobo10bo2bo7bo11b3o8bo6bo$3b2o5bobo2b2o18b3o6bo10b2o6bobo12bo8bo2bobo
bobo$3b2o4bo5bo24bo2bo20b2o22b3obob2o$10bo2b2o8bo15bobobo$10bo13bo14bo
2bo45b3obob2o$22b3o15b2o45bo2bobobobo$88bo6bo$5bo3bo79b3o$4bobobobo62b
o15b2obo$5b2ob2o61bobo17bo3b2o$72b2o$2b3o5b3o28b4o12b4o$bo4bobo4bo14b
2ob2o7b6o10b6o15bo$o5bobo5bo14bobo8b4ob2o9b4ob2o12bobo$bo4bobo4bo4b2ob
2obo5bo13b2o14b2o14b2o$b2o3bobo3b2o3b2o2b2ob2o$25bo55bo$3b3o3b3o5b2o
60bobo$17b2o5b2o4b2o32bo2b2o11b2o$24b2o3bobo31bo3b2o2b2o$17bo12bo32bo
7b2o12bo$17b2ob2o2b2o38b4o15bobo$18bob2ob2o59b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 10th, 2023, 12:45 pm

Someone please tell me if this makes a new gun

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x = 24, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$12b3o$10b3o$10b3o4b2o$6b2o2b3o$8bo3b3o$13b2o4$21bo$20bobo$19bo2b
o$19bobo$20bo$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo2$18b2o$17bobo$17b2o2$2b2o16b2o$3b
o16bo$3o18b3o$o22bo!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Period1GliderGun » July 11th, 2023, 12:02 am

AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 10th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Someone please tell me if this makes a new gun

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x = 24, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$12b3o$10b3o$10b3o4b2o$6b2o2b3o$8bo3b3o$13b2o4$21bo$20bobo$19bo2b
o$19bobo$20bo$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo2$18b2o$17bobo$17b2o2$2b2o16b2o$3b
o16bo$3o18b3o$o22bo!
Transparent mango found. Next step: p19 oscillator.
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » July 11th, 2023, 7:07 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 10th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Someone please tell me if this makes a new gun

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x = 24, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$12b3o$10b3o$10b3o4b2o$6b2o2b3o$8bo3b3o$13b2o4$21bo$20bobo$19bo2b
o$19bobo$20bo$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo2$18b2o$17bobo$17b2o2$2b2o16b2o$3b
o16bo$3o18b3o$o22bo!
Oh yeah, you can also do this:

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 x = 24, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
13bo2$13b2o$12b3o$10b3o$10b3o4b2o$10b3o$12b3o$13b2o4$21bo$20bobo$19bo
2bo$19bobo$20bo$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo2$18b2o$17bobo$17b2o2$2b2o16b2o
$3bo16bo$3o18b3o$o22bo!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Period1GliderGun » July 12th, 2023, 12:00 am

AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 11th, 2023, 7:07 pm
Oh yeah, you can also do this:

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 x = 24, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
13bo2$13b2o$12b3o$10b3o$10b3o4b2o$10b3o$12b3o$13b2o4$21bo$20bobo$19bo
2bo$19bobo$20bo$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo2$18b2o$17bobo$17b2o2$2b2o16b2o
$3bo16bo$3o18b3o$o22bo!
And this:

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x = 16, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
3o11$13bo$12bobo$11bo2bo$11bobo$12bo$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo2$10b2o$9bobo$
9b2o2$12b2o$12bo$13b3o$15bo!
The blinker does not phase shift.
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » July 13th, 2023, 11:50 am

minor p59 gun reduction (1824-cell BB to 1808-cell BB) by shuffling around the two halves of the engine:

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x = 43, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
29bo3b2o$28bobobob3o$28bobobo4bo$29bobobobobo$31bobob2o4b2o$19b2o9bobo
8bo$19b2o10bo7bobo$39b2o3$13b2o9bo$14bo6b2ob2o4b2o5bobo$14bobo4b2obo4b
4o5b2o$10bo4b2o3bo8bo2bo5bo$10b3o7bobo6b3o$13bo16bo$12b2o10bo10bo$18bo
3b3o9bobo$17bobo15b2o$5b2o10bo2bo$5b2o11b2o3$32b2o$32bo$33b3o$35bo$11b
o$b2o6bo2b2o$o2bo5bo2b2o$b2o2bo4b2o$3b2obo$b2o2bo17b2o$o2b2o18bobo$2o
23bo$bob2o20b2o$bo2bo$2b2o3$9b2o$9b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by glider_rider » July 13th, 2023, 11:54 am

It's actually smaller (1786 cells) the other way, it's just that the one I posted used an eater instead of a block, making it double-barreled at the cost of an extra row. There are four versions within that bounding box tied for minimum population as well, at population 142:

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x = 158, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
9b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o$9b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o3$2b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o$bo2bo36bo
2bo36bo2bo36bo2bo$bob2o20b2o14bob2o20b2o14bob2o20b2o14bob2o20b2o$2o23b
o14b2o23bo14b2o23bo14b2o23bo$3b2o18bobo17b2o18bobo17b2o18bobo17b2o18bo
bo$3o2bo17b2o15b3o2bo17b2o15b3o2bo17b2o15b3o2bo17b2o$o2b2obo33bo2b2obo
33bo2b2obo33bo2b2obo$b2o2bo4b3o28b2o2bo4b2o29b2o2bo4b3o28b2o2bo4b2o$3b
o5bo3bo29bo5bo2b2o29bo5bo3bo29bo5bo2b2o$b2o7b2obo27b2o6bo2b2o27b2o7b2o
bo27b2o6bo2b2o$bo10bo28bo9bo29bo10bo28bo9bo$2bo39bo39bo39bo$b2o38b2o
38b2o38b2o$24b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o$25bo39bo39bo39bo$24bo39bo39bo39bo$24b
2o38b2o38b2o38b2o$5b2o12bo25b2o12bo25b2o12bo25b2o12bo$5b2o11bobo24b2o
11bobo24b2o11bobo24b2o11bobo$17bo2bo10b2o24bo2bo10b2o24bo2bo10b2o24bo
2bo10b2o$18b2o11b2o25b2o11b2o25b2o11b2o25b2o11b2o$12b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o
$13bo39bo39bo39bo$12bo39bo39bo12b2o25bo12b2o$12b2o11b3o24b2o11b3o24b2o
10bo2bo24b2o10bo2bo$24bo10b2o27bo10b2o27bobo8b2o27bobo8b2o$25bo9bo29bo
9bo28b2o9bo28b2o9bo$22bo2bo10bo25bo2bo10bo39bo39bo$21bo13b2o24bo13b2o
24bo13b2o24bo13b2o$22bo5bo5bo27bo5bo5bo25bobo11bo25bobo11bo$21bo5bo3b
2o2b2o24bo5bo3b2o2b2o23b2o5b2o3bo2b2o23b2o5b2o3bo2b2o$22b3o2bo4b3o2bo
24b3o2bo4b3o2bo23b2o4bo3bob2o2bo23b2o4bo3bob2o2bo$13b2o8bo4b2obo3b3o
15b2o8bo4b2obo3b3o15b2o17bo2b3o15b2o17bo2b3o$12bobo19bo17bobo19bo17bob
o10bo7b2o17bobo10bo7b2o$12bo11b3o5bobob2o14bo11b3o5bobob2o14bo13b2o8b
2o14bo13b2o8b2o$11b2o13bo6bo2bo14b2o13bo6bo2bo14b2o12b2o6b2obo14b2o12b
2o6b2obo$34bobo37bobo36bo2bo36bo2bo$35bo39bo38b2o38b2o2$30b2o38b2o38b
2o38b2o$30bo39bo39bo39bo$31b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o$33bo39bo39bo39bo!
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