## Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Scorbie wrote:Wow.This would change quite a lot of the gun collection. If there were a reasonably small Hto2g...
Don't know how well known this old H-to-G0 converter is -- I seem to recall I posted it somewhere else not too long ago, but there might be some uses for it here. At higher periods (p188+) it can be used to convert a wrong-color Herschel to a right-color glider, with the help of a (color-changing) semi-Snark.

Also there are two possible positions for the semi-Snark's toggle block, so you can trivially change the timing of the circuit by 119 ticks... Apologies for the heavy-handed narration in the viewer below -- just testing out the new waypoint system:

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#C [[ AUTOSTART X 0 Y 0 ZOOM 2.5 THEME 9 HEIGHT 300 ]] #C [[ PAUSE 5 "Guns are identical except for one block" ]] #C [[ T 147 ZOOM 10 X -57 Y 0 ]] #C [[ PAUSE 3 "Left semi-Snark reflects first glider of pair" ]] #C [[ T 200 ZOOM 2.5 X 0 Y 0 ]] #C [[ T 266 ZOOM 10 X 78 Y 0 ]] #C [[ PAUSE 3 "Right semi-Snark reflects 2nd glider instead" ]] #C [[ T 350 ZOOM 2.5 X 0 Y 0 ]] #C [[ T 700 ]] #C [[ T 759 ZOOM 10 X -38 Y -20 ]] #C [[ PAUSE 3 "Left-hand gun's period is 759" ]] #C [[ T 820 X 0 Y 0 ZOOM 2.5 ]] #C [[ T 878 ZOOM 10 X 100 Y -20 ]] #C [[ PAUSE 3 "Right-hand gun's period is 878" ]] #C [[ T 1000 X 0 Y 0 ZOOM 2.5 ]] x = 246, y = 82, rule = B3/S23 96bo135bo$94b3o133b3o$93bo10bo124bo10bo$93b2o8bobo123b2o8bobo$76bo26bo bo106bo26bobo$76b3o23b2ob3o104b3o23b2ob3o$79bo28bo106bo28bo$78b2o22b2o b3o106b2o22b2ob3o$102b2obo132b2obo2$79b2o134b2o$47bo11b2o18b2o102bo11b 2o18b2o$46bobo10b2o121bobo10b2o$38bo3b2o2bobo125bo3b2o2bobo$37bobo2bo 2b2ob2o123bobo2bo2b2ob2o$37bobo3bobo127bobo3bobo$38bob4o2bob2o124bob4o 2bob2o$40bo3bobob2o126bo3bobob2o$39bo3bobo129bo3bobo$34bo3bo3bobo125bo 3bo3bobo$32b3o3b2o3bo124b3o3b2o3bo$31bo50b3o82bo50b3o$31b2o50bo8b2o73b 2o50bo8b2o$83b3o6bo126b3o6bo$51b2o40b3o91b2o40b3o$51b2o42bo91b2o42bo$66b2o134b2o$65bo2bo132bo2bo$66b2obo132b2obo$69bo135bo$69b2o134b2o$54b 2o134b2o$55bo135bo$52b3o133b3o$39b2o11bo122b2o11bo$39bo135bo$40b3o15b 2o116b3o15b2o$42bo16bo118bo16bo$59bobo133bobo$60b2o22b2o110b2o22b2o$35b2o47b2o85b2o47b2o$35bobo37b2o94bobo37b2o$37bo37b2o14bob2o78bo37b2o 14bob2o$37b2o52b2obo78b2o52b2obo$66b2o$bo56b2o6b2o69bo56b2o$obo55b2o 15bob2o57bobo55b2o5b2o8bob2o$obo72b2obo57bobo62b2o8b2obo$bo135bo$71bo 135bo$29b2o39bobo92b2o39bobo$29bo33b2o6b2o92bo33b2o6b2o$30b3o31bo101b 3o31bo$32bo21bo6b3o104bo21bo6b3o$52b3o6bo126b3o6bo$51bo135bo$51b2o134b 2o$36b2o134b2o$37bo135bo$37bob2o132bob2o$38bo2bo132bo2bo$39b2o134b2o$54b2o13b2o119b2o13b2o$54b2o13b2o119b2o13b2o5$93b2o134b2o$60b2ob2o28b2o 101b2ob2o28b2o$57b2o2bobo3b2o124b2o2bobo3b2o$57b2obo2bo2bobo37b2o85b2o bo2bo2bobo37b2o$60bobo3bo39bobo87bobo3bo39bobo$60bobobobo26b2o13bo87bo bobobo26b2o13bo$61b2ob2o27b2o13b2o87b2ob2o27b2o13b2o$46b2o31b2o101b2o 31b2o$46b2o30bobo101b2o30bobo$78bo135bo$77b2o8b2o124b2o8b2o$87bo135bo$88b3o133b3o$90bo135bo!
One potentially nice thing about it is that the two gliders can perfectly be run through an H-to-G, one after another, and the doubled output can be reflected with a semi-Snark much later, after several Snark reflections if necessary.

Haven't found a way to reduce any guns with this yet, though -- the above is just a proof-of-concept. I guess it does improve on the previous p759 gun and various other nearby periods, but I'm sure there's something better out there.

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

@dvgrn - do you know of some spratan G->SL factory that might work here? one can "sacrifice" SL in many ways for this G->H (see here and here)

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

simsim314 wrote:@dvgrn - do you know of some spratan G->SL factory that might work here? one can "sacrifice" SL in many ways for this G->H (see here and here)
Well, there aren't very many known G-to-SL reactions at all, let alone Spartan ones with the output at the edge of the reaction envelope. And most of the linked examples aren't really quite clean enough to solve the problem, even if a there was a known G-to-SL that fit.

Mostly if you want a nice edgy still life you have to invest a Herschel:

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#C [[ AUTOSTART THEME 3 LOOP 256 THUMBNAIL ]]
x = 59, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
ABA$B2AB$.A3B$2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B7.C$6.4B6.3C$7.4B8.C$8.4B6.C.C$9.4B
5.C.CB$10.4B5.C3B$11.4B6.4B$12.4B5.6B$13.4B4.7B$14.4B2.8B.4B.B$15.17B
.B2C$16.18B2C$16.16B.2B$16.16B6.2C$16.15B8.C$14.2CB.12B3.2A.3C$13.C.C
B2.11B2.ABABC$13.C5.10B2.2BAB$12.2C5.2B2C6B.4B18.2C$18.3B2C10B4.2C13. C$19.13B3.2B2CB9.BC.C$19.10B2D2B2.4B6.5B2C$18.7B.3B2D10B2.7B$18.6B. 25B$19.9B.20B$19.8B.22B$18.8B2.24B$18.7B3.26B$18.6B5.22BE2B$17.2B3D2B 6.14B.4BEBE3B$17.4BD2B6.13B2.4B3E2B$16.4B3DB7.13B.4BE5B$16.8B8.13B.9B
$16.8B8.15B6.4B$16.8B9.14B8.2C$16.7B11.13B8.C$34.12B10.3C$35.12B.B9.C$37.11B2C$16.2A18.12B2C$15.A2.A18.10B.B$16.2A20.9B! But of course if you have a Herschel to invest, then in most cases you've already solved your problem. Something useful might certainly turn up during a careful review of results that Guam posted a few years ago. Guam's G->half-blockade (the first half of his G4 receiver) seems very promising indeed: Code: Select all #C three-stage G-to-H, repeat time 295 ticks #C [[ AUTOSTART THEME 4 STEP 8 HEIGHT 320 LOOP 1000 ZOOM 3 X 43 Y 36 ]] x = 301, y = 172, rule = B3/S23 o$b2o$2o72$75bo85b2o12bo$73bobo84bo2bo9bobo$74b2o85b2o11b2o16$150b2o$ 149bobo$149bo$148b2o7$158b2o$158b2o7b2o$167bo$165bobo$165b2o3$151b2o$150bobo$150bo$149b2o4$128bo99bo$126b3o97b3o42bo$125bo99bo43b3o$125b2o 98b2o41bo$110b2o98b2o56b2o$111bo70bo28bo$111bob2o65b3o28bob2o84bo$112b o2bo63bo32bo2bo82bobo$113b2o64b2o32b2o83bobo$128b2o13b2o83b2o13b2o54bo$128b2o13b2o83b2o13b2o26b2o$187b2ob2o79b2o$188bob2o$188bo$180b2o4b3o$167b2o11b2o3bo3b2o$167b2o16b4o2bo$131b2o38b2o15bob2o39b2o$131b2o37bobo 12b3o2bo40b2o48b2o$170bo13bo5bo91bo$167b2obo14b5o76b2o11b3o$167b2ob2o 15bo42b2o34b2o11bo$120b2o31b2o65b2o8b2o$120b2o4b2o24bobo65b2o4b2o$126b 2o16b2o6bo73b2o16b2o6b2o$144b2o5b2o8b2o81b2o7bo$161bo88b3o$162b3o85bo$ 164bo97b2o$133b2o98b2o27bo$133b2o98b2o28b3o$265bo2$130b2o20bo77b2o$130bo21b3o75bo$128bobo24bo72bobo15b2o$128b2o24b2o72b2o16bobo$246bo3$136b2o98b2o$136b2o98b2o2$164b2o$157b2o5bobo$157b2o7bo$166b2o2$153bo$ 152bobob2o$152bobobobo$151b2obobobo2bo$152bo2b2ob4o$152bo4bo$153b3obo 2b2o$155b2o3b2o!
I think this is just about what you were asking for, actually. A single glider can reset, or preset, a Spartan version of the new G-to-H. It all works out rather nicely in fact -- the version on the left would have won the G-to-H speed competition by a landslide, until a couple of days ago. EDIT: Improved repeat rate to 295 ticks.

However, it's worth bearing in mind that as far as pure Spartan technology goes, we've had pretty much the same thing available since 1996. A standard Herschel receiver is Spartan, and it can be reset by a single glider in eight different ways -- four parallel and four 90-degree paths. By the time you finish adding in all the extra junk above, a Spartan syringe is about the same size as a receiver.

Did Guam report any other G->SL discoveries at about the same time? I don't remember all the details any more.

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

I was looking at Golly's collection of eaters and I was wondering if such thing as a flintstone existed: a still life that, when given a spark of some sort, makes a glider and returns to its original configuration. Coupled with some of the flashy eaters we have, could we combine the two to make an on-track colour-changer or colour-changing reflector? It's a long shot, but we could try.
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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Freywa wrote:I was looking at Golly's collection of eaters and I was wondering if such thing as a flintstone existed: a still life that, when given a spark of some sort, makes a glider and returns to its original configuration. Coupled with some of the flashy eaters we have, could we combine the two to make an on-track colour-changer or colour-changing reflector? It's a long shot, but we could try.
This comes close:

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x = 31, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
4$14bo$15bo$15bo2$13b2o11bo$3b2o7bo2bo9bobo$3b2o7bobo11b2o$13bo!  Guam had posted these two examples, but the spark locations are relatively inaccessible: Code: Select all x = 83, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory 44.3B14.A$44.4B11.3A$45.4B9.A$46.4B8.2A$47.4B2.2B.4B$48.4B.5B$48.11B$
19.3B23.14B.2B$18.4B22.19B$17.4B22.20B$16.4B24.20B$15.4B25.21B$14.4B 26.21B$13.4B27.22B$12.4B3.2A22.24B$2A6.2B.4B4.A23.24B14.2A$.A5.8B.BA. A23.23B3.B11.A$.A.AB.2C7B.B2A23.32B4.BA.A$2.2AB.11B24.19BC16B.B2A$4.
4BA8B25.37B$4.3BABA7B25.19B2A16B$4.3BA2BA4B27.18BA2BA15B$4.4B2A5B.2B 24.19B2A14B$4.13B2A22.28B5.B.B$3.12B.B2A23.2B2A7B2.14B4.3B$4.10B3.B
25.B2A8B5.8B6.B2AB$5.3B2.2B31.12B4.6B9.2A$44.6B2.4B4.4B$46.4B3.4B$54.
4B$55.4B$56.4B$57.4B$58.4B$59.4B$60.3B!

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

I thought it was about time to make syringe-assisted G-to-LWSS. Insisting that the repeat time should be 78, this is the best I have come up with:

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x = 217, y = 87, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o5$90b2o26b2o$90bobo25bobo$92bo4b2o21bo4b2o$88b4ob2o2bo2bo
15b4ob2o2bo2bo$88bo2bobobobob2o15bo2bobobobob2o$91bobobobo21bobobobo$92b2obobo22b2obobo$96bo27bo68b2o$62bo104bo25bo$62b3o17b2o26b2o55b3o21b
obo$58bo6bo17bo7b2o18bo7b2o49bo20b2o$57bobo4b2o17bobo5b2o18bobo5b2o48b
2o$21bo35bobo24b2o26b2o$22bo32b3ob2o20bo68bo48b2o$20b3o31bo24b3o68b3o 47bo$48bo6b3ob2o17bo32bo41bo46bobo$48b3o6bob2o17b2o29b3o28bo11b2o11b2o 34b2o$51bo56bo29b3o24b2o$38bo11b2o56b2o27bo$36b3o36b2o17b2o26b2o13b2o$35bo38bo2bo16bo27bo92b2o$35b2o38b2o18b3o25b3o89b2o$20b2o75bo28bo$21bo
101b2o2bo$21bob2o97bo2b2o$22bo2bo72b2o22b2o16b2o48b2o$23b2o72bobo5b2o 33b2o35b2o11b2o$38b2o57bo7b2o71bo$38b2o23b2o31b2o77b3o$63bo111bo$64b3o 43bo38bo3b2o$66bo39b2obobo36bobo3bo39b2o$47bo3b2o52bobobobo35bobo3bo 12b2o27bo$46bobo3bo49bo2bobobobob2o28b2obobo3bo13bobo23b3o$45bobo3bo 50b4ob2o2bo2bo28b2obo2b4obo13bo23bo$41b2obobo3bo55bo4b2o34bobo3bobo12b
2o$41b2obo2b4obo51bobo36b2ob2o2bo2bobo$45bobo3bobo50b2o38bobo2b2o3bo$41b2ob2o2bo2bobo78b2o10bobo$42bobo2b2o3bo79b2o11bo$30b2o10bobo$30b2o
11bo8$178b2o$179bo$179bobo$147b2o14bo16b2o$122b2o24bo14b3o$123bo13b2o
6b3o18bo$123bobo11b2o6bo19b2o$113bo10b2o64bo$111b3o75bobo$110bo79bo$110b2o$95b2o$96bo$96bob2o55b2o$97bo2bo54b2o$98b2o90b2o$113b2o75b2o$
113b2o3$152b2o$122bo3b2o24bo19b2o$121bobo3bo5b2o3b2o13bo17bobo$120bobo
3bo7bo3bo13b2o17bo$116b2obobo3bo5b3o5b3o28b2o12b2o$116b2obo2b4obo3bo9b
o42b2o$120bobo3bobo$116b2ob2o2bo2bobo$117bobo2b2o3bo$105b2o10bobo$105b 2o11bo!  EDIT: Here is a G->MWSS in very similar style: Code: Select all x = 241, y = 88, rule = B3/S23 2bo$obo$b2o3$118b2o11bo$118b2o10bobo$90b2o38bobo2b2o3bo$90bobo36b2ob2o 2bo2bobo$92bo4b2o34bobo3bobo$88b4ob2o2bo2bo28b2obo2b4obo$88bo2bobobobo
b2o28b2obobo3bo$91bobobobo35bobo3bo$92b2obobo36bobo3bo$96bo38bo3b2o$
62bo91bo$62b3o17b2o68b3o13bo15bo9bo$58bo6bo17bo7b2o58bo16b3o13b3o5b3o
28b2o$57bobo4b2o17bobo5b2o33b2o23b2o18bo15bo3bo13b2o17bo$21bo35bobo24b
2o22b2o16b2o42b2o14b2o3b2o13bo17bobo$22bo32b3ob2o20bo26bo2b2o92bo19b2o$20b3o31bo24b3o27b2o2bo91b2o$48bo6b3ob2o17bo33bo$48b3o6bob2o17b2o29b3o
$51bo56bo130b2o$38bo11b2o56b2o13b2o114b2o$36b3o36b2o17b2o27bo36b2o$35b
o38bo2bo16bo29b3o33b2o46b2o$35b2o38b2o18b3o28bo10b2o69b2o$20b2o75bo38b
obo$21bo114bo$21bob2o110b2o10b2o$22bo2bo72b2o48bo$23b2o72bobo5b2o38b3o
9b2o$38b2o57bo7b2o38bo11bo19b2o$38b2o23b2o31b2o60bo17bobo11b2o6bo19b2o
$63bo93b2o17bo13b2o6b3o18bo$64b3o43bo64b2o24bo14b3o$66bo39b2obobo88b2o 14bo$47bo3b2o52bobobobo$46bobo3bo49bo2bobobobob2o$45bobo3bo50b4ob2o2bo
2bo$41b2obobo3bo55bo4b2o$41b2obo2b4obo51bobo$45bobo3bobo50b2o$41b2ob2o
2bo2bobo$42bobo2b2o3bo$30b2o10bobo$30b2o11bo2$204bo$204b3o$164b2o41bo$138bo25bo23bo17b2o$138b3o21bobo23b3o$141bo20b2o27bo$140b2o48b2o2$121bo 49bo$121b3o47b3o$124bo49bo$111bo11b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o$109b3o24b2o48b2o$
108bo$108b2o$93b2o$94bo123b2o$94bob2o120b2o$95bo2bo$96b2o$111b2o48b2o$
111b2o35b2o11b2o34b2o$149bo46bobo$146b3o47bo$146bo48b2o$120bo3b2o$119b obo3bo39b2o$118bobo3bo12b2o27bo20b2o$114b2obobo3bo13bobo23b3o21bobo$
114b2obo2b4obo13bo23bo25bo$118bobo3bobo12b2o48b2o$114b2ob2o2bo2bobo$115bobo2b2o3bo$103b2o10bobo$103b2o11bo90b2o$208bo$205b3o$205bo!


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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Well, here's a relatively messy synthesis of the large eater weld:

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x = 306, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
176bo$174bobo$175b2o5$187bobo$42bo136bo5bo4bo$41bo135bobo3bobo4bo$41b
3o134b2o4b2obo2bo$130bo27bo29b3o$27bo100bobo28bo$26bo12bo89b2o26b3o33b 2o$22bo3b3o8b2o93bo59b2ob2o$23b2o7bo5b2o92bobo25bobo22bo7b4o$22b2o6b2o
100b2o26b2o15b4o2bobo2bo5b2o5bo2bo$31b2o128bo14bo3bo3b2o2bobo9bo$55bo
124bo7b2o10bo3bo$56bo56bobo15bo44bo2bo12bo7b4o19b2obo24b2obo24b2obo16b 2obo$8bo45b3o56b2o15bobo24b2o4b3o25bobo29b2ob3o22b2ob3o22b2ob3o14b2ob
3o$3o3b2o5b2o18b2o79bo15b2o26bo4bo28bo3b3o30bo27bo27bo19bo$2bo4b2o5bo
19bo17b2o6b2obo16b2obo22b2obo14b2obo24b2ob3o6bo21b2ob3o4bo26b2ob3o22b
2ob3o22b2ob3o14b2ob3o$bo9b3o17b3o7b2o8bobo5bo2b2o15bo2b2o21bo2b2o2b2o 9bo2b2o2b2o19bo2b2o29bo2b2o7bo24bo2b2o23bo2b2o23bo2b2o15bo2b2o$10bo17b
obo9b2o11bo4bobo17bobo23bobo5bo9bobo5bo19bobo31bobo34bobo25bobo25bobo
17bobo$9bob2obo13b2ob2obo7bo15b2ob2obo14bob2obo7bobobo8bob2obobo10bob 2obobo6bo13bob2obo28bob2obo31bob2obo20bobob2obo5bo14bobob2obo12bobob2o bo$9bobob2o16bob2o26bob2o16bob2o22bob2obobo10bob2obobo2b2o16bob2o30bob
2o25b2o6bob2o15bobo3bo2bob2o3b2o16bo2bob2o13bo2bob2o$10bo20bo29bo19bo 25bo5b2o10bo5b2o3b2o15bo33bo27bobo6bo19b2o6bo7b2o8bo9bo19bo$30b2o28b2o
18b2o24b2o16b2o26b2o32b2o29bo5b2o19bo6b2o15bobo8b2o5bo12b2o$269b2ob2o 7b2o3bobo7bobo2b2o$218b3o51bobo6bobo2b2o8b2o2bo2bo$3b3o4b3o117b2o86bo 53bo9bo18b2o$5bo4bo120b2o86bo57b3o$4bo6bo118bo126b2o18bo$247b3o6b2o20b
o5b2o$9b3o237bo8bo24b2o$9bo2bo235bo36bo$9bo$9bo240b2o$10bobo238b2o$
250bo$253b2o$253bobo$253bo2$247b2o$248b2o$247bo!

Now, let's find another G-to-X.
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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Extrementhusiast wrote:Well, here's a relatively messy synthesis of the large eater weld:

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RLE

Now, let's find another G-to-X.
Nice. And yeah, let's keep exploring, maybe a direct G->2G or G->*WSS is within reach.
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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Catalyst variants:

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b2ob2o$2b2o2bobo$2b2obo2bo$5bobo$2b2o2bo$bo2b2o$obobo$bo2bo2b2o$4bobo
bo$3b2obo$obo2bobo$2o2bo2bo$5b2o!

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x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6b2ob2o$3b2o2bobobo$3b2obo4bo$6bob3o$3b2obobo$3bo2b2o$b2o2bo$obob2o$bo
2bo$4bo$3b2obo$obo2bobo$2o2bo2bo$5b2o! Ivan Fomichev simeks Posts: 369 Joined: March 11th, 2015, 12:03 pm Location: Sweden ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) syringe can be welded to this splitter: Code: Select all x = 57, y = 50, rule = B3/S23 55b2o$55bo$53bobo$53b2o10$35bo$34bobo$24bo2b2ob2o2bobo$10b2o11bobo2bob
o2b2ob2o$10b2o10bo2b2obo2bobo$22bobo3bob2o2bob2o$21b2ob2obobo2bobob2o$
25bobo3bobo$21b2obo2b4obo20b2o$21b2obobo3bo22b2o$25bobo3bo$26bobo3bo$27bo3b2o4$18b2o$18b2o$3b2o$2bo2bo$bob2o$bo$2o$15b2o$15bo$16b3o$18bo10b
2o$28bobo$28bo$b2o24b2o14bo$obo36b2obobo2bo$2bo36b2obob4o$42b2o$39b2o 4b5o$39bo6bo2bo$40bo3bo$39b2o3b2o!


dvgrn
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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

simeks wrote:syringe can be welded to this splitter...
Nice! It makes a decent-sized p723 gun, with room in the lower right corner for semi-Snark period doublers:

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x = 93, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
63b2o$63bo$61bobo$61b2o10$43bo$42bobo$32bo2b2ob2o2bobo$18b2o11bobo2bob o2b2ob2o37bo$18b2o10bo2b2obo2bobo39b3o$30bobo3bob2o2bob2o34bo$29b2ob2o
bobo2bobob2o34b2o$33bobo3bobo$29b2obo2b4obo20b2o$29b2obobo3bo22b2o25b 2o$33bobo3bo49bo$34bobo3bo48bob2o$35bo3b2o40b2o4b3o2bo$81b2o3bo3b2o$
86b4o$72b2o15bo$26b2o43bobo12b3o$26b2o43bo13bo$11b2o57b2o14b5o$10bo2bo 76bo$9bob2o75bo$9bo78b2o$8b2o$3b2o18b2o$4bo18bo$2bo21b3o$2b5o14b3o2bo
10b2o$7bo13bo2bo11bobo$4b3o12bobo2b2o10bo$3bo15b2o14b2o14bo$3b4o40b2ob
obo2bo9bo$b2o3bo3b2o35b2obob4o8bo$o2b3o4b2o38b2o12b3o$2obo43b2o4b5o$3b
o43bo6bo2bo$3b2o43bo3bo$47b2o3b2o2$11b2o$12bo$9b3o$9bo3$92bo$90bobo$38bo52b2o$38b3o$41bo$40b2o7$50b2o$43b2o5bobo$43b2o7bo$52b2o2$39bo$38bo
bob2o$38bobobobo$35b2obobobobo2bo$35bo2bo2b2ob4o$37b2o4bo$43bobo$44b2o
!
#C [[ AUTOSTART STEP 8 ZOOM 5 Y -4 LOOP 7230 ]]
The p723 is already the beginning of a very compact family of guns, and p723/3=241 and multiples are all covered by the p482+8N family. So I don't think this nice delay mechanism really improves anything in the gun collection, which is starting to look fairly robust these days.

However, this has given me the final push to start a formal H-to-2G converter collection in a new thread. I'm starting with just parallel outputs, but people are certainly welcome to post other H-to-2Gs (and H-to-3Gs, etc.) with outputs in different directions. Elementary or compact composite circuits are okay. Maybe the multidirectional H-to-Gs will get their own stamp collection -- especially if someone else does the work.

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Okay, I think it's high time we created a near-spartan version of the syringe--it seems to be possible. Look at this:

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x = 21, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6b3o$9bo$8bobo$obo5bobo$b2o6bo$bo9$4b2o$3bobo$3bo$2b2o7b2o$11b2o2$
19b2o$19b2o! And this: Code: Select all x = 29, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 6bo$6b3o$9bo$8bobo$obo5bobo$b2o6bo$bo20b2o$22b2o4$27b2o$27b2o3$4b2o$3b
obo$3bo$2b2o7b2o$11b2o2$19b2o$19b2o! Simply bonking the systems with 2-cat CatForce runs doesn't get anything useful, but that doesn't mean it's not possible to regenerate the versatile sacrificial bait. Tanner Jacobi Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6735 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) Kazyan wrote:Okay, I think it's high time we created a near-spartan version of the syringe--it seems to be possible... Simply bonking the systems with 2-cat CatForce runs doesn't get anything useful, but that doesn't mean it's not possible to regenerate the versatile sacrificial bait. These both have a sacrificial block in the place of the eater2. The best way I could find to send a signal in to rebuild the sacrificial block was posted a few messages back. If people get desperate, it might be worth looking for ways to convert the suppressed spark at the bottom directly into the reset glider. Maybe CatForcing a replacement for the bottom block? Code: Select all x = 213, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory 2.A119.A$A.A117.A.A60.A$.2A118.2A38.2A18.3A$162.A17.A$162.A.A15.2A$
163.2A2.2A$167.2A42.A$210.A.A$210.A.A$211.A$183.2A15.D$183.2A15.D.D$25.A119.A54.3D$23.3A42.A74.3A56.D$22.A43.3A73.A$22.2A41.A76.2A$7.2A 56.2A60.2A$8.A119.A$8.A.2A84.A31.A.2A61.2A$9.A2.A82.A.A31.A2.A61.A$10.2A83.A.A32.2A59.3A$25.2A13.2A54.A48.2A13.2A29.A$25.2A13.2A26.2A15. D59.2A13.2A$68.2A15.D.D$85.3D$87.D4$28.2A118.2A$28.2A48.2A68.2A31.2A$79.A101.A.A$63.2A11.3A104.A$63.2A11.A106.2A$17.2A118.2A$17.2A4.2A112. 2A4.2A$23.2A16.2A6.2A92.2A16.2A$41.2A7.A110.2A11.2A$47.3A124.2A$47.A$
59.2A$30.2A27.A90.2A$30.2A28.3A87.2A$62.A2$27.2A118.2A$27.A119.A$25.A
.A15.2D100.A.A15.2D$25.2A16.D.D99.2A16.D.D$43.D119.D3$33.2A118.2A$33.
2A3.3A112.2A3.3A$37.A3.A115.A3.A$41.A119.A$41.A119.A$39.2A118.2A$39.A 119.A$39.A119.A2$39.A119.A! Seems like a very long shot, of course, since there are only a few ticks before the damaged R collapses into a block, and the eater is too close for comfort. Anyway, needing a dependent conduit after this mess probably makes the whole thing bigger than we really want a Spartan syringe to be. There are also some workable Spartan H-to-block ways to replace the sacrificial block -- Code: Select all x = 68, y = 91, rule = LifeHistory 55.2A$54.A2.A$55.2A16$44.2A$43.A.A$43.A$42.2A7$52.2A$52.2A7.2A$61.A$59.A.A$59.2A$42.2A$42.2A$32.2A$33.A$33.A.A$34.2A6$16.A$16.3A5.2A$19.A 4.2A$18.2A18.2A$13.A23.A.A$13.3A21.A$16.A19.2A$15.2A2$32.2A$31.A.A$32.A5.2A$38.2A13.2A$53.2A$7.2A36.2A$8.A37.A$8.A.A32.3A$9.2A32.A7$9.C
35.2A$9.C.C33.2A$9.3C$11.C41.2A$53.2A7.2A$62.A$26.2A32.A.A$26.2A32.2A$2.2A$3.A$3A9.2A23.2A$A11.2A23.2A6$56.A$55.A.A$55.A.A7.3A$56.A8.A$57.
3A6.A$59.A! -- but of course to get the H input you'd need a ridiculously large Spartan Herschel splitter. Again it's hard to see how that approach would produce anything small enough to be interesting. Maybe it would be better to try a similar approach with a different base reaction. What other resettable G(n) or other 2G->H reactions are there, where there might be some slight hope of CatForcing the right reset glider? Extrementhusiast Posts: 1833 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) dvgrn wrote:Maybe it would be better to try a similar approach with a different base reaction. Or perhaps just starting from scratch. I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Kazyan Posts: 959 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) The point is that the chaos produced by FNG collision with the stray beehive or other debris might be tameable into replacing that sacrificial bait, but I see what you mean. One possibility that I haven't explored that much--because of how time-consuming it is--is to thoroughly CatForce one side of a Pi up to generation ~80, then take every result and combine them with every other result on the other side, in the hopes of regenerating the bait on at least one of the combinations simply because there's so many of them. Like this: Code: Select all x = 37, y = 51, rule = B3/S23 5b2o$6bo$6bobo$7b2o4$17b3o$17bobo$17bobo15$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o13b3o$6b2o9b
obo$5bobo9bobo$5b2o10$5b2o$6bo$6bobo$7b2o$35b2o$35bo$33bobo$17b3o13b2o
$17bobo9b2o$17bobo9bobo$30b2o! Of course, a lane-blocking result wouldn't be combined with a second lane-blocking result. Tanner Jacobi Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. simeks Posts: 369 Joined: March 11th, 2015, 12:03 pm Location: Sweden ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) This alternative way to weld an input Snark to syringe (on the right), reduces population count by 5: Code: Select all x = 130, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory 9.A79.A$9.3A10.E66.3A10.E$12.A9.E.E67.A9.E.E$11.2A9.2E67.2A9.2E3$2A. 2A75.2A.2A$2A.A76.2A.A$3.A79.A$3.3A4.2A71.3A4.2A$.2A3.A3.2A69.2A3.A3. 2A$A2.4A73.A2.4A$2A.A15.2C59.2A.A15.2C2.2C$.A2.3A12.C.C2.2C55.A2.3A
12.C.C2.C$.A5.A13.C2.C56.A5.A13.2C$2.5A14.3C2.C55.5A14.C$4.A19.3C57.A 18.C$23.C78.2C$23.2C23.A79.A$8.2A37.A.A38.2A37.A.A$9.A37.A.A39.A37.A. A$9.A.2A35.A40.A.2A35.A$10.A2.A76.A2.A$11.2A78.2A$26.2A78.2A$26.2A78.
2A4$35.A3.2A74.A3.2A$34.A.A3.A73.A.A3.A$33.A.A3.A73.A.A3.A$29.2A.A.A
3.A70.2A.A.A3.A$29.2A.A2.4A.A68.2A.A2.4A.A$33.A.A3.A.A71.A.A3.A.A$29. 2A.2A2.A2.A.A67.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$30.A.A2.2A3.A69.A.A2.2A3.A$18.2A10.A.A 65.2A10.A.A$18.2A11.A66.2A11.A!


Kazyan
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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Nice! I didn't even notice that the snake-like catalysis affects the Pi the same way that eater does.

On the non-spartan side of exploration...this is probably more trouble than it's worth because the repeat time and size are atrocious, but the explosion here can likely be tamed into a functional G-to-X.

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x = 35, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A20.A$3.A17.3A$2.2A16.A$21.A$19.A.A$19.2A$25.A$23.3A$22.A$22.2A6$13.2C$12.C2.C$13.2C11$31.2A$31.A.A$33.A$.A31.2A$.2A$A.A6$23.2A.A2.A$24.A.4A$12.A9.A.A$11.A.A.2A5.2A2.2A$12.2A.A2.A8.A$14.A2.2A7.A$11.A.A
12.2A$11.2A! Tanner Jacobi Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6735 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) Kazyan wrote:On the non-spartan side of exploration...this is probably more trouble than it's worth because the repeat time and size are atrocious, but the explosion here can likely be tamed into a functional G-to-X... Hmm. A G11-to-X or G12-to-X tandem glider receiver I could see. But that extra beehive is not going to be too easy to clean up, and it settles out before the bait beehive does. Why is it always an extra beehive, anyway? (If I remember correctly, somebody was complaining recently about some other surplus still life being the inevitable one... but now I can't find the reference.) fluffykitty Posts: 653 Joined: June 14th, 2014, 5:03 pm Contact: ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) dvgrn wrote:... (If I remember correctly, somebody was complaining recently about some other surplus still life being the inevitable one... but now I can't find the reference.) It was boats. http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 936#p19936 I like making rules A for awesome Posts: 2047 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!) A number of possible first catalysts for a Spartan G-X (Warning: raw search program output, not filtered or formatted nicely): Code: Select all x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2o4$10bo$9bobo$9bo2bo$10b2o4$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
3bo11bo$2bobo9bobo$2bobo9bobo$3bo11bo10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$2bobo$3bo10b2o$14b2o9$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 6, rule = B3/S23 3bo$2bobo$2bo2bo$3b2o5$2b2o$2b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 6, rule = B3/S23 3bo$2bobo$2bo2bo$3b2o3$4b2o$3bobo$4bo5$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$2bo2bo$3b2o3$2b2o$2bobo$3bo5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23 2b2o$2b2o6$8b2o$7bo2bo$8b2o4$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bobo$3bo6$7bo$6bobo$6bobo$7bo2$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 3bo$2bobo$3b2o$13b2o$13b2o9$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$4bo3$13bo$12bobo$13b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 4b2o$3bo2bo$4bobo$5bo7$7bo$6bobo$6bobo$3o4bo$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o5$9b2o$9b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23 6bo$5bobo7b2o$4bo2bo7b2o$5b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23 5b2o$4bo2bo$5bobo$6bo3$4bo$3bobo$3bobo$4bo4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 5b2o$4bo2bo4b2o$5bobo3bobo$6bo5bo10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 4b2o$4b2o5$10b2o$9bobo$10bo5$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o5$11bo$10bobo$11b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 5bo$4bobo$4b2o11$3o3b2o$2bo2bo2bo$bo4bobo$7bo! x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23 5bo$4bobo$5b2o2b2o$9b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$5bo2bo$6b2o5bo$12bobo$12bobo$13bo8$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$5bo2bo$5bobo$6bo8$6b2o$6b2o$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$5bo2bo3b2o$5bobo3bo2bo$6bo5b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$5bo2bo$6bobo11bo$7bo11bobo$19b2o9$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$6b2o3$4b2o$4b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 7bo$6bobo$6bobo$7bo2$11b2o$11b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 7bo$6bobo$6bo2bo$7b2o10$3o$2bo10b2o$bo11b2o! x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 7b2o$6bo2bo$6bobo$7bo2$11b2o$11b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 6b2o8bo$6b2o7bobo$14bo2bo$15b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 6b2o$6bobo$7bo4$5b2o$4bobo$5bo5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 7bo$6bobo7b2o$6b2o8b2o11$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo3b2o$7b2o2bo2bo$12b2o10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$7bobo$8bo3$10b2o$10b2o6$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$7bo2bo$8b2o10$3o10b2o$2bo10b2o$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$7bobo$8bo2$11b2o$11b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$7bo2bo$8b2o4$8bo$7bobo$8b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 9bo$8bobo$7bo2bo$8b2o10$3o10b2o$2bo10b2o$bo! x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 7b2o$7b2o9$7bo$6bobo$6b2o$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7bobo$8bo7$13b2o$12bo2bo$13b2o2$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$8b2o$2b2o$2b2o9$3o$2bo$bo! x = 18, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$9b2o11$3o$2bo$bo14b2o$15bo2bo$16b2o!
x = 16, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bo2bo$9b2o4$18b2o$17bo2bo$18bobo$19bo4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$9b2o8b2o$18bo2bo$19bobo$20bo8$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 9bo$8bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o4$16bo$15bobo$15bobo$16bo3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 9bo11bo$8bobo9bobo$8bo2bo7bo2bo$9b2o9b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 10bo$9bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o4$8bo$7bobo$7bobo$8bo3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$9bobo$10bo9$14b2o$3o11b2o$2bo$bo!
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$8b2o12$3o3b2o$2bo2bo2bo$bo4bobo$7bo! x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$9bo2bo$10b2o8$14b2o$13bo2bo$13bobo$3o11bo$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$9bo2bo$10b2o9$14bo$13bobo$3o10bobo$2bo11bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$9bo2bo$9bobo$10bo7$11b2o$11b2o2$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobo$9bo2bo$10b2o5$9b2o$9b2o4$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$3b2o4bo2bo$3b2o5bobo$11bo10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
9b2o2b2o$9b2o2bobo$14bo11$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$9bobo$10bo5$16b2o$16b2o5$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9b2o11$3o$2bo5b2o$bo6b2o! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 10bo9b2o$9bobo8b2o$9b2o11$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9b2o11$3o18b2o$2bo17bo2bo$bo19b2o! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$9bobo$10bo9$7bo$6bobo$3o3bo2bo$2bo4b2o$bo!
x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o10$11b2o$3o7bo2bo$2bo8b2o$bo!
x = 18, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o11$3o$2bo9b2o$bo9bo2bo$12bobo$13bo! x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o11$3o$2bo8b2o$bo9b2o!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o4$14bo$13bobo$13bobo$14bo4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o2$20b2o$19bobo$20bo7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 11bo$10bobo$10bobo$11bo4$18b2o$18b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$10bo2bo$10bobo$11bo4$8bo$7bobo$7bobo$8bo3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$3bo6b2o$2bobo$2b2o10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o$5b2o$4bobo$5bo9$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o3$5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o3$5bo$4bobo$5b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o4$5b2o$5b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o8$11bo$10bobo$10b2o2$3o$2bo$bo! x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o12$3o8bo$2bo7bobo$bo8bo2bo$11b2o!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o10$12b2o$11bo2bo$3o9b2o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o10$12b2o$11bo2bo$3o8bobo$2bo9bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o10$12b2o$11bo2bo$3o9bobo$2bo10bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o3b2o$15b2o11$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o6$18bo$17bobo$17bobo$18bo3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 17, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o12$3o$2bo$bo16b2o$18b2o!
x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o9$20b2o$19bo2bo$20bobo$3o18bo$2bo$bo! x = 17, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10b2o12$3o$2bo18bo$bo18bobo$21b2o!
x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobo$10b2o7$18b2o$18b2o3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$10bobo$11bo4$17b2o$17b2o6$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
12bo$11bobo$11bo2bo$12b2o5$10bo$9bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o2$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$11bo2bo$7bo3bobo$6bobo3bo$6bobo$7bo8$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$11bo2bo$12b2o3$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo4$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o8$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bobo$11bo$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$12b2o$12b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o9$13b2o$13bobo$14bo$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$11b2o3$15b2o$14bo2bo$15b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$16b2o9$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$11b2o2$18bo$17bobo$17bobo$18bo7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 17, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 12b2o$11bobo$12bo11$3o$2bo$bo11b2o$13b2o! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 13bo$12bobo$12bobo$13bo8$9b2o$8bo2bo$3o5bobo$2bo6bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 13bo$12bobo$12bobo$13bo3$14bo$13bobo$12bo2bo$13b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 13bo$12bobo$12bobo$13bo3$13b2o$13bobo$14bo5$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$12bo2bo$5b2o6b2o$4bo2bo$4bobo$5bo7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 13b2o$12bo2bo$12bobo$13bo$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bobo$12bo2bo$13b2o3$11b2o$10bo2bo$11b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 13bo$12bobo$13b2o3$13b2o$13b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bo$14bobo$13bo2bo$14b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 13b2o$13b2o4$10b2o$9bo2bo$9bobo$10bo5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 17, rule = B3/S23 14b2o$13bobo$14bo4$14b2o$13bo2bo$14bobo$15bo4$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$14bo2bo$15b2o11$3o17b2o$2bo17b2o$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$14bo2bo$8b2o4bobo$8b2o5bo10$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 26, rule = B3/S23 16bo$15bobo$14bo2bo$15b2o2$23b2o$22bo2bo$23bobo$24bo5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 26, rule = B3/S23 16bo$15bobo$14bo2bo$15b2o3$23bo$22bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$14bo2bo$15bobo$16bo5$15b2o$15b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$14bo2bo$15bobo$16bo8$20b2o$20b2o$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 14b2o$14b2o$9bo$8bobo$7bo2bo$8b2o8$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 14b2o$14bobo$15bo8$16b2o$15bo2bo$16bobo$3o14bo$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$14bobo$15bo6$19b2o$18bo2bo$19b2o3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 16b2o$15bo2bo$9b2o4bobo$8bo2bo4bo$9b2o9$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$15bo2bo$16bobo$17bo5$13b2o$12bo2bo$13b2o3$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 17bo$16bobo$16bobo$17bo2$21b2o$21b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 17bo$16bobo$16bo2bo$17b2o10$3o13b2o$2bo12bobo$bo14bo! x = 19, y = 26, rule = B3/S23 17bo$16bobo$16bo2bo$17b2o10$3o$2bo$bo21b2o$22bo2bo$23bobo$24bo!
x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$10b2o4bo2bo$10bobo3bobo$11bo5bo10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 17, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$16bo2bo$16bobo$17bo10$3o$2bo15bo$bo15bobo$18b2o! x = 19, y = 26, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$16bo2bo$16bobo$17bo10$3o$2bo$bo21b2o$22bo2bo$23bobo$24bo!
x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$16bo2bo$17bobo$18bo5$20b2o$19bo2bo$19bobo$20bo2$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16b2o5$5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 16b2o$16b2o3$17b2o$17bobo$18bo7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17bo$16bobo$3b2o11b2o$3b2o10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$16bobo$5bo11bo$4bobo$4bo2bo$5b2o8$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
17b2o3bo$16bobo2bobo$17bo3bo2bo$22b2o10$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$17bo2bo$18b2o3$20b2o$19bo2bo$20bobo$21bo5$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 21, rule = B3/S23 19bo$18bobo$17bo2bo$8bo9b2o$7bobo$7bobo$8bo7$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o8$8bo$7bobo$7b2o2$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$10bo$9bobo$3o5bo2bo$2bo6b2o$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$13bo$12bobo$3o8bo2bo$2bo9b2o$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o3$13bo$12bobo$12bobo$13bo6$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o4$12b2o$12b2o7$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o4$12b2o$12bobo$13bo6$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o12$3o$2bo10b2o$bo11bobo$14bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o4$15b2o$14bobo$15bo6$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o6$16bo$15bobo$15b2o4$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$16bo$15bobo$3o12bobo$2bo13bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$16bo$15bobo$3o12bo2bo$2bo13b2o$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$16b2o$15bo2bo$3o12bobo$2bo13bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o10$16bo$15bobo$3o12b2o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o11$15b2o$3o12b2o$2bo$bo!
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o11$15b2o$3o12bobo$2bo13bo$bo! x = 16, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17b2o3$22b2o$22b2o8$3o$2bo$bo! x = 16, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17bobo$18bo2$22b2o$22b2o8$3o$2bo$bo!

In all cases, exactly one of the still lives is regenerated. Given that there are (I think) 144 reactions there, there's probably something in there where the non-regenerated SL can be restored by further searches. I don't know if anyone has done this particular kind of search before, though, so this might be completely pointless.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

A for awesome wrote:A number of possible first catalysts for a Spartan G-X (Warning: raw search program output, not filtered or formatted nicely...
In all cases, exactly one of the still lives is regenerated.
Looks interesting!

It might be good to sort these somehow in order of likeliness, if that's possible. In the first pattern, the beehive is only restored between T=132 and T=137, and then it's gone again. A really useful Spartan G-to-X will probably have the restoration complete by say T=43 or T=74 or maybe T=90... wouldn't say no to a slower one, but it would be nice if it was in the same range as the syringe or even the Snark.

A still life that is restored for a longer period of time is also probably a better bet to investigate further, as opposed to a very brief restoration; there's more time to add catalysts to rescue it successfully.

Here's a quick script I wrote, that makes a LifeHistory stamp collection with candidates separated by gray cells so that they don't interact:

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10.2C$10.2C6$18.C$17.C.C$17.C.C$18.C3$3C$2.C$.C!
10.2C$10.2C12$3C$2.C$.C16.2C$18.2C! 10.2C$10.2C9$20.2C$19.C2.C$20.C.C$3C18.C$2.C$.C!
10.2C$10.2C12$3C$2.C18.C$.C18.C.C$21.2C! 11.C$10.C.C$10.2C7$18.2C$18.2C3$3C$2.C$.C!
11.2C$10.C.C$11.C4$17.2C$17.2C6$3C$2.C$.C! 12.C$11.C.C$11.C2.C$12.2C5$10.C$9.C.C$8.C2.C$9.2C2$3C$2.C$.C! 12.2C$11.C2.C$7.C3.C.C$6.C.C3.C$6.C.C$7.C8$3C$2.C$.C! 13.C$12.C.C$11.C2.C$12.2C3$9.C$8.C.C$8.C.C$9.C4$3C$2.C$.C! 11.2C$11.2C8$11.2C$10.C2.C$10.C.C$11.C$3C$2.C$.C! 11.2C$11.2C4$12.2C$12.2C7$3C$2.C$.C! 11.2C$11.2C9$13.2C$13.C.C$14.C$3C$2.C$.C!
11.2C$11.2C3$15.2C$14.C2.C$15.2C7$3C$2.C$.C! 11.2C$11.2C$16.2C$15.C2.C$16.2C9$3C$2.C$.C!
11.2C$11.2C2$18.C$17.C.C$17.C.C$18.C7$3C$2.C$.C!
12.2C$11.C.C$12.C11$3C$2.C$.C11.2C$13.2C!
13.C$12.C.C$12.C.C$13.C8$9.2C$8.C2.C$3C5.C.C$2.C6.C$.C!
13.C$12.C.C$12.C.C$13.C3$14.C$13.C.C$12.C2.C$13.2C4$3C$2.C$.C!
13.C$12.C.C$12.C.C$13.C3$13.2C$13.C.C$14.C5$3C$2.C$.C! 13.C$12.C.C$12.C2.C$5.2C6.2C$4.C2.C$4.C.C$5.C7$3C$2.C$.C!
13.2C$12.C2.C$12.C.C$13.C$7.2C$6.C2.C$7.2C7$3C$2.C$.C! 14.C$13.C.C$12.C2.C$13.2C3$11.2C$10.C2.C$11.2C5$3C$2.C$.C!
13.C$12.C.C$13.2C3$13.2C$13.2C7$3C$2.C$.C! 15.C$14.C.C$13.C2.C$14.2C$7.2C$6.C2.C$7.2C7$3C$2.C$.C!
13.2C$13.2C4$10.2C$9.C2.C$9.C.C$10.C5$3C$2.C$.C!
14.2C$13.C.C$14.C4$14.2C$13.C2.C$14.C.C$15.C4$3C$2.C$.C! 15.2C$14.C2.C$15.2C11$3C17.2C$2.C17.2C$.C!
15.2C$14.C2.C$8.2C4.C.C$8.2C5.C10$3C$2.C$.C!
16.C$15.C.C$14.C2.C$15.2C2$23.2C$22.C2.C$23.C.C$24.C5$3C$2.C$.C!
16.C$15.C.C$14.C2.C$15.2C3$23.C$22.C.C$22.C2.C$23.2C4$3C$2.C$.C!
15.2C$14.C2.C$15.C.C$16.C5$15.2C$15.2C4$3C$2.C$.C!
15.2C$14.C2.C$15.C.C$16.C8$20.2C$20.2C$3C$2.C$.C!
14.2C$14.2C$9.C$8.C.C$7.C2.C$8.2C8$3C$2.C$.C!
14.2C$14.C.C$15.C8$16.2C$15.C2.C$16.C.C$3C14.C$2.C$.C!
15.2C$14.C.C$15.C6$19.2C$18.C2.C$19.2C3$3C$2.C$.C!
16.2C$15.C2.C$9.2C4.C.C$8.C2.C4.C$9.2C9$3C$2.C$.C! 16.2C$15.C2.C$16.C.C$17.C5$13.2C$12.C2.C$13.2C3$3C$2.C$.C!
17.C$16.C.C$16.C.C$17.C2$21.2C$21.2C7$3C$2.C$.C!
17.C$16.C.C$16.C2.C$17.2C10$3C13.2C$2.C12.C.C$.C14.C!
17.C$16.C.C$16.C2.C$17.2C10$3C$2.C$.C21.2C$22.C2.C$23.C.C$24.C! 17.2C$10.2C4.C2.C$10.C.C3.C.C$11.C5.C10$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$16.C2.C$16.C.C$17.C10$3C$2.C15.C$.C15.C.C$18.2C!
17.2C$16.C2.C$16.C.C$17.C10$3C$2.C$.C21.2C$22.C2.C$23.C.C$24.C! 17.2C$16.C2.C$17.C.C$18.C5$20.2C$19.C2.C$19.C.C$20.C2$3C$2.C$.C! 16.2C$16.2C5$5.2C$4.C2.C$5.2C5$3C$2.C$.C!
16.2C$16.2C3$17.2C$17.C.C$18.C7$3C$2.C$.C! 17.C$16.C.C$3.2C11.2C$3.2C10$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$16.C.C$5.C11.C$4.C.C$4.C2.C$5.2C8$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C3.C$16.C.C2.C.C$17.C3.C2.C$22.2C10$3C$2.C$.C! 18.2C$17.C2.C$18.2C3$20.2C$19.C2.C$20.C.C$21.C5$3C$2.C$.C!
19.C$18.C.C$17.C2.C$8.C9.2C$7.C.C$7.C.C$8.C7$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$17.2C8$8.C$7.C.C$7.2C2$3C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$10.C$9.C.C$3C5.C2.C$2.C6.2C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$13.C$12.C.C$3C8.C2.C$2.C9.2C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C3$13.C$12.C.C$12.C.C$13.C6$3C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C4$12.2C$12.2C7$3C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C4$12.2C$12.C.C$13.C6$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$17.2C12$3C$2.C10.2C$.C11.C.C$14.C!
17.2C$17.2C4$15.2C$14.C.C$15.C6$3C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$17.2C6$16.C$15.C.C$15.2C4$3C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$16.C$15.C.C$3C12.C.C$2.C13.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$16.C$15.C.C$3C12.C2.C$2.C13.2C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$16.2C$15.C2.C$3C12.C.C$2.C13.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C10$16.C$15.C.C$3C12.2C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C11$15.2C$3C12.2C$2.C$.C! 17.2C$17.2C11$15.2C$3C12.C.C$2.C13.C$.C!
17.2C$17.2C3$22.2C$22.2C8$3C$2.C$.C!
17.2C$17.C.C$18.C2$22.2C$22.2C8$3C$2.C$.C!""" pats=text.split("\n") g.new("144 possibilities") x, y = 0, 0 for pat in pats: g.putcells(g.parse(pat,x*256,y*256)) x+=1 if x==size: x, y = 0, y+1 linelength=spacing*size horiz=g.parse("F"*linelength+"!") vert=g.parse("F$"*linelength+"!")
for i in range(size+1):
g.putcells(horiz,-spacing/2,i*spacing-spacing/2)
g.putcells(vert,i*spacing-spacing/2,-spacing/2)
Here's the actual stamp collection. It's three times too big to post as RLE, but only 20K in macrocell format:

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[M2] (golly 2.8b3)
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It will take a bit more work to have the script dig out the first tick when the still life is restored, and how long the still life lasts. Is that information easily available from your search program?

Jackk
Posts: 80
Joined: March 13th, 2012, 3:49 pm

### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

Just casually browsing through them, I guess it's not that surprising that most of them are a bit unlikely... but one of the more promising might be this: (block added by me to delete a TL)

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x = 9, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
6.2C$6.C.C$7.C4$5.2C$4.C.C$5.C5$3C$2.C$.C$5.2E$5.2E!


simsim314
Posts: 1766
Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm

### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

This brings me an idea of sequential "sacrifice and restore" strategy:

We can use a search that has a sequence of spartan SLs, and the search is looking to find a "new sacrifice" of SL, which restores a previously sacrificed SL (together with regular catalysts of course). This will allow much much deeper "sacrifice" strategy, than anything else we currently have. In more advanced stage we can allow N sacrificed SLs.

Jackk
Posts: 80
Joined: March 13th, 2012, 3:49 pm

### Re: Let's find a G-to-X (Done!)

This one makes an LWSS (!!). Unfortunately, it looks rather difficult to salvage.

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x = 37, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
10$24.C$23.C.C$23.C.C$24.C8$20.2C$19.C2.C$11.3C5.C.C$13.C6.C$12.C!  EDIT: This, however, looks distinctly more possible... Code: Select all x = 19, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory 17.2C$17.2C11$15.2C$3C12.2C$2.C$.C!