The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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Kazyan
Posts: 1001
Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm

Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

This is probably better for the Elementary Conduits thread, but here's a simple C-to-G that isn't present elsewhere. It won't be particularly useful until there's a conduit that this actually attaches to, though.

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``````x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
11bo\$10bobo\$10bobo\$2o7b2ob3o\$bo13bo\$bobo5b2ob3o\$2b2o5b2obo2\$6bo\$5b3o\$
4b2o!``````
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JP21
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Joined: October 26th, 2019, 5:39 am
Location: PH

Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

So, I'll have a little comparison here.

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``````x = 63, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
12b2o40b2o\$12b2o40b2o4\$12b3o39b3o\$13bo41bo\$11b3o39b3o15\$2b2o40b2o\$2bob
o6b2o31bobo6b2o\$4bo6b2o33bo6b2o\$4b2o40b2o2\$4b2o38b4o\$2bo2bo38bo2bo\$2b
2o5\$9bo41bo\$9bobo39bobo\$9b3o5b2o32b3o5b2o\$11bo5b2o34bo5b2o4\$58b2o\$8bo
7b2o32bo8bo\$7bobo7bo31bobo7bob2o\$7bobo7bob2o29bo7b2o2bo\$8bo7b2o2bo23b
2o9bo4b2o\$2b2o9bo4b2o23bobo9b5o\$bobo9b5o25bo9b2o4bo\$bo9b2o4bo24b2o10bo
2b2o\$2o10bo2b2o37bobo\$12bobo34bo2bobobo\$7bo2bobobo34b4ob2o\$7b4ob2o39bo
\$11bo39bobo\$9bobo39b2o\$9b2o!``````
Perhaps it's boring.
Edit: It only reduce the repeat time by 2.

Jormungant
Posts: 228
Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am

Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

I while ago, I thought one could fix the following, but gave up. But I cant say tried that extensively:

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``````x = 44, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
2.C\$C.C\$.2C\$24.3D\$25.D\$23.3D11\$9.B\$9.B.B12.B\$11.2B9.4B\$10.4B7.5B\$11.
4B5.8B3.2B\$12.4B2.16B\$13.22B.2B\$14.20B2.3B\$15.7B3.8B3.4B\$15.6B5.7B2.
5B\$15.7B3.15B\$14.24B.B2C\$13.25B.BC.C\$12.2A20B8.C\$12.2A8BCBC8B9.2C\$13.
10B2C.4B\$14.9BC6B\$14.18B\$15.8B2A9B.2C\$14.8BA2BA8BC.C\$13.10BABA7B.BC\$
13.11BA8B\$14.18B\$14.17B\$13.17B\$11.A.2AB.14B\$9.3AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB\$8.A
4.B6.3B5.2A\$9.3A.2A5.B2AB\$11.A.A7.2A\$11.A.A\$12.A!
``````

Jormungant
Posts: 228
Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am

Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Fixed! bandersnatchy G8-to-H

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``````x = 71, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
2\$3.B\$4.BC\$3.CBC\$4.2C19\$26.B\$26.2B15.8B\$25.4B14.4B3DB\$26.4B14.4BD2B\$
27.4B13.2B3D2B\$28.4B13.6B\$29.4B12.7B\$30.4B11.8B\$31.4B11.8B\$25.CBC4.4B
10.9B\$25.B2C5.4B8.6B.B\$25.BCB6.4B6.8B3.2B\$35.4B4.10B.4B\$36.4B.B.16BA.
2A\$37.22B2A.A\$32.B5.17B.2B\$32.B.B3.16B\$34.2B2.15B\$33.20B\$34.22B\$35.
22B\$35.26B\$35.27B\$33.2AB.26B\$32.A.AB2.25B\$32.A5.25B\$31.2A4.24B.B2C\$
36.25B.BC.C\$35.2A20B8.C\$35.2A8B3.8B9.2C\$36.9B3.6B\$37.8B3.7B\$37.18B\$
38.8B2A9B.2C\$37.8BA2BA8BC.C\$36.10BABA7B.BC\$36.11BA8B\$37.18B\$37.17B\$
36.17B\$34.A.2AB.14B\$32.3AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB\$31.A4.B6.3B5.2A\$32.3A.2A5.B
2AB\$34.A.A7.2A\$34.A.A\$35.A!
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Works with this 2x h-to-H! (only one works flipped too)

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``````x = 601, y = 257, rule = LifeHistory
46\$107.2B\$105.5B319.2A\$104.7B319.A14.2A\$104.8B318.A.AB10.B2AB8.2A\$
103.9B319.2AB.2B7.4B7.B2A2B\$102.10B321.5B6.4B8.4B\$102.A8B140.2AB173.
2A4.7B4.5B5.6B5.2A\$101.ABA8B137.BA2BA2B171.A5.7B3.7B.8B.2B2.B2AB\$101.
ABA10B134.3B2A3B172.3A2.7B.22B2.2B\$101.BA14B2.2B2.B122.12B172.A35B\$
102.11BD11B120.14B173.36B\$102.9BDBD12B2.B116.13B175.32B2A2B\$104.7B3D
9B2AB.B2A114.14B175.32B2A3B\$104.7BD11B2A3B2A114.15B165.2A3.2A.B.35B\$
105.B2.19B.B116.14B165.A.A.A.A38B\$115.4B.7B119.13B21.B145.A.A.B.30B.
7B\$116.4B.7B119.3B.4B3DB19.4B143.2A.2A23B3.B2.4B.6B\$117.12B123.4BD2B
19.6B145.B.21B3.3B2.9B\$118.11B123.2B3D2B18.9B145.20B3.B2AB3.8B\$119.9B
.3B121.6B15.13B145.13B.4B5.2A5.8B\$120.12B121.7B12.16B145.11B.4B14.7B\$
117.2B.11B2A120.8B11.16B142.18B16.6B\$116.2A13B2A121.8B3.B5.17B141.18B
17.2B3D2B\$116.2AB.10B.B122.9B.25B140.17B18.2BD4B\$117.B2.10B123.38B
138.16B19.B3D4B.3B\$120.9B124.39B137.B3C4B.6B20.13B\$119.10B122.B2.39B
136.2BC4B3.4B21.14B\$118.11B121.2AB.40B135.2B3C2B2.4B22.15B\$117.11B
122.2A4B2A37B134.6B2.4B24.14B\$116.13B122.2B.2B2A6B3.24B.4B132.7B.4B
25.13B\$115.15B124.5B2.B5.24B2.4B130.6B2.4B25.14B\$114.19B120.6B8.23B4.
4B128.5B3.4B27.12B\$113.19B2A119.4B10.23B5.3B127.5B3.4B30.3B2A3B\$112.
4B.15B2A119.2B2AB8.20B2.B7.2B126.5B3.4B31.2BA2BAB\$111.4B.17B118.2AB.
2A8.20B138.6B2.4B34.B2A\$110.19B121.A.AB10.16B.2B140.4B.B.4B\$109.19B
122.A12.4B.B3C4B.3B142.4B2.B.2B\$108.20B121.2A11.4B2.2BC4B146.4B3.4B\$
107.20B134.4B3.2B3C.B144.4B4.4B\$106.24B130.4B4.6B144.4B4.4B\$105.4B.
20B129.4B4.7B143.4B4.4B\$104.4B3.20B127.4B4.4B.B144.4B4.4B\$80.8B15.4B
3.22B125.4B4.4B146.4B4.4B\$80.B3D4B14.4B2.24B124.4B4.4B123.8B15.4B4.4B
\$80.2BD4B14.4B.25B101.8B15.4B4.4B124.B3D4B14.4B4.4B\$80.2B3D2B13.4B2.
2BC13B.10B99.B3D4B14.4B4.4B125.2BD4B14.4B4.4B\$80.6B13.4B2.3BCBC4B.7B
2.2B4.2A99.2BD4B14.4B4.4B126.2B3D2B13.4B\$79.7B12.4B4.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B
4.A100.2B3D2B13.4B135.6B13.4B\$78.8B11.4B4.5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A97.6B13.
4B135.7B12.3B\$77.8B11.4B4.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A96.7B12.3B136.8B11.4B\$76.9B
10.4B4.4B12.3A5.A.A100.8B11.4B135.8B11.4B\$78.B.6B8.4B4.4B22.2A99.8B
11.4B135.9B10.4B\$74.2B3.8B6.4B4.4B14.3A106.9B10.4B138.B.6B8.4B\$73.4B.
10B4.4B4.4B15.A2.A107.B.6B8.4B135.2B3.8B6.4B\$68.2A.A16B.B.4B4.4B18.2A
103.2B3.8B6.4B135.4B.10B4.4B\$68.A.2A22B4.4B123.4B.10B4.4B131.2A.A16B.
B.4B\$73.2B.17B5.B121.2A.A16B.B.4B132.A.2A22B\$77.16B3.B.B121.A.2A22B
138.2B.17B5.B\$78.15B2.2B128.2B.17B5.B137.16B3.B.B\$78.20B131.16B3.B.B
138.15B2.2B\$75.22B133.15B2.2B140.20B\$74.22B134.20B136.22B\$70.26B131.
22B136.22B\$69.27B130.22B133.26B\$68.26B.B2A124.26B132.27B\$68.25B2.BA.A
122.27B131.26B.B2A\$68.25B5.A121.26B.B2A129.25B2.BA.A\$66.2CB.24B4.2A
120.25B2.BA.A128.25B5.A\$65.C.CB.25B125.25B5.A126.2CB.24B4.2A\$65.C8.
20B2A122.2CB.24B4.2A124.C.CB.25B\$64.2C9.8B3.8B2A121.C.CB.25B129.C8.
20B2A\$77.6B3.9B122.C8.20B2A127.2C9.8BC.C8B2A\$76.7B3.8B122.2C9.8B3.8B
2A140.6B2C.9B\$76.18B135.6B3.9B140.7B.C.8B\$71.2C.9B2A8B135.7B3.8B141.
18B\$71.C.C8BA2BA8B134.18B136.2C.9B2A8B\$72.CB.7BABA10B128.2C.9B2A8B
137.C.C8BA2BA8B\$75.8BA11B128.C.C8BA2BA8B137.CB.7BABA10B\$76.18B130.CB.
7BABA10B139.8BA11B\$77.17B133.8BA11B140.18B\$78.17B133.18B142.17B\$77.
14B.B2A.A132.17B143.17B\$77.B2AB2.B2.B5.B2AB3A131.17B141.14B.B2A.A\$78.
2A5.3B6.B4.A129.14B.B2A.A139.B2AB2.B2.B5.B2AB3A\$84.B2AB5.2A.3A130.B2A
B2.B2.B5.B2AB3A138.2A5.3B6.B4.A\$85.2A7.A.A133.2A5.3B6.B4.A143.B2AB5.
2A.3A\$94.A.A139.B2AB5.2A.3A145.2A7.A.A\$95.A141.2A7.A.A156.A.A\$246.A.A
157.A\$247.A!
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repeat time is 274, ... weee!

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``````x = 99, y = 104, rule = LifeHistory
3\$56.B\$42.B11.3B\$40.3B6.3B2.5B\$39.21B\$40.2A15B2A\$39.B2A15B2AB\$39.21B\$
39.21B\$17.B21.21B21.B\$16.4B19.B3D4B.3B.4B3DB19.4B\$14.6B19.2BD4B7.4BD
2B19.6B\$12.9B18.2B3D2B7.2B3D2B18.9B\$11.13B15.6B9.6B15.13B\$10.16B12.7B
9.7B12.16B\$10.16B11.8B9.8B11.16B\$10.17B5.B3.8B11.8B3.B5.17B\$9.25B.9B
11.9B.25B\$7.38B9.38B\$6.39B9.39B\$5.39B2.B5.B2.39B\$4.40B.B2A3.2AB.40B\$
3.37B2A4B2A3.2A4B2A37B\$2.4B.24B3.6B2A2B.2B5.2B.2B2A6B3.24B.4B\$.4B2.
24B5.B2.5B11.5B2.B5.24B2.4B\$4B4.23B8.6B9.6B8.23B4.4B\$3B5.23B10.4B9.4B
10.23B5.3B\$2B7.B2.20B8.B2A2B9.2B2AB8.20B2.B7.2B\$B12.20B8.2A.B2A5.2AB.
2A8.20B12.B\$15.2B.16B10.BA.A3.A.AB10.16B.2B\$18.3B.4B3CB.4B12.A3.A12.
4B.B3D4B.3B\$23.4BC2B2.4B11.2A.2A11.4B2.2BD4B\$23.2B3C2B3.4B25.4B3.2B3D
2B\$24.6B4.4B23.4B4.6B\$24.7B4.4B21.4B4.7B\$24.8B4.4B19.4B4.8B\$25.8B4.4B
17.ABAB4.8B\$25.9B4.4B15.B2AB4.9B\$24.6B.4B4.4B13.3BA4.4B.6B\$24.7B.4B4.
4B11.4B4.4B.7B\$8.2A15.6B2.4B4.4B9.4B4.4B2.6B15.2A\$9.A8.B4.8B3.4B4.4B
7.4B4.4B3.8B4.B8.A\$9.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB5.4B4.4B5.4B4.4B5.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A\$
10.2AB.13B2A2B5.4B4.4B3.4B4.4B5.2B2A13B.B2A\$12.18B7.4B4.4B.4B4.4B7.
18B\$12.17B9.4B4.7B4.4B9.17B\$13.13B13.4B4.5B4.4B13.13B\$15.12B13.4B3.5B
3.4B13.12B\$17.10B14.4B.7B.4B14.10B\$17.11B14.7B.7B14.11B\$18.2B.7B15.5B
3.5B15.7B.2B\$18.11B14.5B3.5B14.11B\$17.11B14.7B.7B14.11B\$17.11B13.4B.
7B.4B13.11B\$17.11B12.4B3.5B3.4B12.11B\$17.B3D4B2.B2A9.4B4.5B4.4B9.2AB
2.4B3DB\$17.2BD4B3.BA.A7.4B4.7B4.4B7.A.AB3.4BD2B\$17.2B3D2B6.A6.4B4.4B.
4B4.4B6.A6.2BD2CAB\$17.6B7.2A4.4B4.4B3.4B4.4B4.2A7.2BABAB\$16.7B12.4B4.
4B5.4B4.4B12.BA2BA2B\$15.8B11.4B4.4B7.4B4.4B11.B3A4B\$14.8B11.4B4.4B9.
4B4.4B11.3A5B\$13.9B10.4B4.4B11.4B4.4B10.BA2BA4B\$12.4B.6B8.4B4.4B13.4B
4.4B8.2BA3B.4B\$11.4B.8B6.4B4.4B15.4B4.4B6.6BAB.4B\$10.BA2B.5BAB2AB4.4B
4.4B17.4B4.4B4.10B.4B\$5.2A.ABABA5BA2BAB2A.B.4B4.4B19.4B4.4B.B.5BA10BA
.2A\$5.A.2AB2A5BA3BAB2A6B4.4B21.4B4.12BA9B2A.A\$10.2B.4BA2BA2B2A5B4.4B
23.4B4.10B2A5B.2B\$14.4B2A10B3.4B25.4B3.16B\$15.10BA4B2.4B27.4B2.15B\$
15.20B29.20B\$12.19BA2B31.22B\$11.18B2A2B33.22B\$7.23B2AB33.10B3A13B\$6.
27B33.11BA10B2A3B\$5.26B.B2A29.2AB.14BA4BABA4B\$5.25B2.BA.A27.A.AB2.12B
ABA4BA5B\$5.25B5.A27.A5.13B2A10B\$3.2CB.24B4.2A25.2A4.14BA9B.B2C\$2.C.CB
.25B35.25B.BC.C\$2.C8.20B2A33.2A20B8.C\$.2C9.19B2A33.2A19B9.2C\$14.18B
35.18B\$13.18B37.18B\$13.18B37.18B\$8.2C.9B2A8B39.8B2A9B.2C\$8.C.C8BA2BA
8B37.8BA2BA8BC.C\$9.CB.7BABA10B35.10BABA7B.BC\$12.8BA11B35.11BA8B\$13.
18B37.18B\$14.17B37.17B\$15.17B35.17B\$14.14B.B2A.A31.A.2AB.14B\$14.B2AB
2.B2.B5.B2AB3A27.3AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB\$15.2A5.3B6.B4.A25.A4.B6.3B5.2A\$
21.B2AB5.2A.3A27.3A.2A5.B2AB\$22.2A7.A.A31.A.A7.2A\$31.A.A31.A.A\$32.A
33.A!
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``````x = 171, y = 171, rule = LifeHistory
3\$68.2A\$52.2A14.A\$41.2A8.B2AB10.BA.A\$39.2B2AB7.4B7.2B.B2A\$39.4B8.4B6.
5B\$32.2A5.6B5.5B4.7B4.2A\$31.B2AB2.2B.8B.7B3.7B5.A\$32.2B2.22B.7B2.3A\$
33.35BA\$31.36B\$30.2B2A32B\$29.3B2A32B71.2B\$30.35B.B.2A3.2A60.5B\$30.38B
A.A.A.A59.7B\$29.7B.30B.B.A.A61.8B\$29.6B.4B2.B3.23B2A.2A59.9B\$30.9B2.
3B3.21B.B34.C27.10B\$30.8B3.B2AB3.20B34.3C27.A8B\$29.8B5.2A5.4B.13B34.C
29.ABA8B\$29.7B14.4B.11B35.2C28.ABA10B\$29.6B16.18B19.2A8.5B28.BA14B2.
2B2.B\$28.2B3D2B17.18B18.A8.4B31.11BD11B\$28.4BD2B18.17B19.A6.7B29.9BDB
D12B2.B\$23.3B.4B3DB19.16B18.2A6.7B5.2C24.7B3D9B2AB.B2A\$22.13B20.6B.4B
3CB18.2B6.7B5.C.C23.7BD11B2A3B2A\$21.14B21.4B3.4BC2B17.B2AB5.7B6.CB24.
B2.19B.B\$20.15B22.4B2.2B3C2B16.BABAB4.9B4.2B35.4B.7B\$20.14B24.4B2.6B
15.3BAB4.11B3.4B34.4B.7B\$21.13B25.4B.7B13.7B3.11B.7B34.12B\$21.14B25.
12B11.4B.4B2.20B.2B31.11B\$22.12B27.12B9.4B.29B2A31.9B.3B\$24.3B2A3B30.
12B7.4B.30B2A32.12B\$25.BA2BA2B31.7B.46B30.2B.11B2A\$27.2AB34.13BD38B
30.2A13B2A\$65.12B3D29B2A5B30.2AB.10B.B\$65.7B.4BDBD10BA17BA2BA5B30.B2.
10B\$64.15BD10B2A16BABA5B2.B31.9B\$64.2B2A15B2.4BA2BA16BA6B.B2A29.10B\$
63.18B5.8BA23B2A28.11B\$59.B3.19B5.4BA3BA20B.2B28.11B\$58.2AB.15B2.4B6.
2BA3BA20B30.13B\$58.2A18B2.4B4.B3A2BA21B29.15B\$59.B.3B2A12B3.4B4.AB3A
22B28.19B\$62.2B2A12B4.4B2.4BA22B4.2A22.19B2A\$52.2A9.2B2.12B4.34B3.A
21.4B.15B2A\$46.2A4.A2.A.2A3.2B3.6B.B.4B4.6B3.6B2.7B.6B2A.A22.4B.17B\$
45.B2AB5.2A.2A2.B2AB2.4B6.4B4.4B4.5B4.B2AB4.2B2.B2AB2A20.19B\$39.2A5.
3B6.B6.2A3.2B2AB6.4B2.6B2.8B3.2A11.B22.19B\$38.B2AB2.B2.B5.B2AB2A10.2A
8.16B3.2A15.2A.2A18.20B\$38.14B.B2A.A22.6B2.6B4.A14.A2.A.2A3.2A12.20B\$
39.17B3.A21.4B4.4B6.3A11.2A7.B2AB10.24B\$38.17B3.2A20.6B2.6B7.A21.2B
10.4B.20B\$37.18B24.16B23.B3.2B10.4B3.20B\$36.8BA11B22.4B2.6B2.4B21.2AB
.4B8.4B3.22B\$33.CB.7BABA10B21.4B4.4B4.4B20.2A8B5.4B2.24B\$32.C.C8BA2BA
8B21.4B4.6B4.4B20.B.B2A6B2.30B\$32.2C.9B2A8B21.4B4.8B4.4B22.2A15BC13B.
10B\$37.18B16.B2.4B4.4B2.4B4.4B21.6BA10BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A\$37.18B16.6B4.
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4.2B2A3.2A4.3A\$25.2C9.19B2A14.4B4.4B8.4B4.4B13.2A26B4.BA2.A4.A6.A\$26.
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4B4.4B11.14B18.2A\$29.26B.B2A6.4B4.4B20.4B4.4B11.13B\$30.27B7.4B4.4B22.
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4.4B20.4B4.4B6.2AB.26B\$21.2A18.14B11.4B4.4B18.4B4.4B6.A.AB2.25B\$21.A
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3A12.4B.14B2A12.4B4.4B10.2B2A4.4B13.2A20B8.C\$9.A6.A4.A2.AB4.26B2A13.
4B4.4B8.4B4.4B14.2A19B9.2C\$9.3A4.2A3.2A2B4.4BC23B15.4B4.4B6.4B4.5B15.
18B\$12.A4.B4.B.3B2.4B3C10BA10B16.4B4.4B4.4B4.6B16.18B\$11.2A4.2B2.7B.
4BCBC10BA6B21.4B4.4B2.4B4.4B2.B16.18B\$11.10B.13BC15B2A22.4B4.8B4.4B
21.8B2A9B.2C\$13.30B2.6B2AB.B20.4B4.6B4.4B21.8BA2BA8BC.C\$12.24B2.4B5.
8B2A20.4B4.4B4.4B21.10BABA7B.BC\$12.22B3.4B8.4B.B2A21.4B2.6B2.4B22.11B
A8B\$13.20B3.4B10.2B3.B23.16B24.18B\$14.20B.4B10.2B21.A7.6B2.6B20.2A3.
17B\$14.24B10.B2AB7.2A11.3A6.4B4.4B21.A3.17B\$17.20B12.2A3.2A.A2.A14.A
4.6B2.6B22.A.2AB.14B\$16.20B18.2A.2A15.2A3.16B8.2A10.2AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2A
B\$16.19B22.B11.2A3.8B2.6B2.4B6.B2A2B3.2A6.B6.3B5.2A\$15.19B20.2AB2AB2.
2B4.B2AB4.5B4.4B4.4B6.4B2.B2AB2.2A.2A5.B2AB\$11.17B.4B22.A.2A6B.7B2.6B
3.6B4.4B.B.6B3.2B3.2A.A2.A4.2A\$10.2A15B.4B21.A3.34B4.12B2.2B9.2A\$10.
2A19B22.2A4.22BA4B2.4B4.12B2A2B\$11.19B28.22B3ABA4.4B3.12B2A3B.B\$14.
15B29.21BA2B3AB4.4B2.18B2A\$15.13B30.20BA3BA2B6.4B2.15B.B2A\$16.11B28.
2B.20BA3BA4B5.19B3.B\$15.11B28.2A23BA8B5.18B\$15.10B29.2AB.6BA16BA2BA4B
2.15B2A2B\$15.9B31.B2.5BABA16B2A10BD15B\$14.10B2.B30.5BA2BA17BA10BDBD4B
.7B\$12.B.10B.B2A30.5B2A29B3D12B\$11.2A13B2A30.38BD13B34.B2A\$11.2A11B.
2B30.46B.7B31.2BA2BAB\$12.12B32.2A30B.4B7.12B30.3B2A3B\$12.3B.9B31.2A
29B.4B9.12B27.12B\$15.11B31.2B.20B2.4B.4B11.12B25.14B\$15.12B34.7B.11B
3.7B13.7B.4B25.13B\$16.7B.4B34.4B3.11B4.BA3B15.6B2.4B24.14B\$17.7B.4B
35.2B4.9B4.BABAB16.2B3C2B2.4B22.15B\$15.B.19B2.B24.BC6.7B5.B2AB17.2BC
4B3.4B21.14B\$14.2A3B2A11BD7B23.C.C5.7B6.2B18.B3C4B.6B20.13B\$14.2AB.B
2A9B3D7B24.2C5.7B6.2A18.16B19.B3D4B.3B\$15.B2.12BDBD9B29.7B6.A19.17B
18.2BD4B\$19.11BD11B31.4B8.A18.18B17.2B3D2B\$20.B2.2B2.14BAB28.5B8.2A
19.18B16.6B\$30.10BABA28.2C35.11B.4B14.7B\$32.8BABA29.C34.13B.4B5.2A5.
8B\$33.8BA27.3C34.20B3.B2AB3.8B\$32.10B27.C34.B.21B3.3B2.9B\$32.9B59.2A.
2A23B3.B2.4B.6B\$32.8B61.A.A.B.30B.7B\$33.7B59.A.A.A.A38B\$34.5B60.2A3.
2A.B.35B\$35.2B71.32B2A3B\$108.32B2A2B\$107.36B\$105.A35B\$103.3A2.7B.22B
2.2B\$102.A5.7B3.7B.8B.2B2.B2AB\$102.2A4.7B4.5B5.6B5.2A\$108.5B6.4B8.4B\$
106.2AB.2B7.4B7.B2A2B\$105.A.AB10.B2AB8.2A\$105.A14.2A\$104.2A!
``````

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Jormungant wrote:
August 7th, 2020, 11:25 am
Fixed! bandersnatchy G8-to-H...
Works with this 2x h-to-H! (only one works flipped too)...
Awesome! Definitely a frumious discovery. It's great to finally have some kind of use for those random output G8 glider pairs. Might make an Fx119 into a handy Herschel signal splitter, for some kind of slow self-constructing circuitry where repeat time isn't an issue.

As an additional celebration, here's a welded form of the second G8 output that almost doesn't work in about three different ways, but then there turn out to be welds available to solve all the problems:

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``````x = 116, y = 163, rule = LifeHistory
69.2B\$67.5B\$66.7B\$66.8B\$65.9B\$64.10B\$64.A8B\$63.ABA8B\$63.ABA10B\$63.BA
14B2.2B2.B\$64.8BA2BCA10B\$64.7B2ADBC2A10B2.B\$66.4B3A2DCA8B2AB.B2A\$66.
5B2ADB2A8B2A3B2A\$67.B2.19B.B\$77.4B.7B\$78.4B.7B\$79.12B\$80.11B\$81.5BA3B
.3B\$82.4BA7B\$79.2B.4BA6B2A\$78.2A13B2A\$78.2AB.10B.B\$79.B2.10B\$82.9B\$
81.10B\$80.11B\$79.11B\$78.BA11B\$77.2A13B\$76.2B2A15B\$75.19B2A\$74.4B.15B
2A\$73.4B.17B\$72.19B\$71.19B\$70.20B\$55.2A12.20B\$54.B2AB10.24B\$55.2B10.
4B.20B\$50.B3.2B10.4B3.20B\$49.2AB.4B8.4B3.22B\$49.2A8B5.4B2.24B\$50.B.B
2A6B2.30B\$53.2A15BD13B.10B\$53.17BDBD4B.7B2.2B4.2A\$49.21B3D4B2.3B.B4.B
4.A3.2A\$B48.23BD4B4.2B2A3.2A4.4A\$2A46.2A26B4.BA2.A4.A2.A.A4.A\$ABA45.
2A14B.4B12.3A3.A4.2A3.3A\$A3B45.B.11B2.4B19.2A7.A\$.4B46.10B2.4B12.5A5.
A6.2A\$2.4B46.14B13.A2.A.A.A.A4.5B\$3.4B44.14B19.A.2A4.4B\$4.4B44.13B19.
A6.7B\$5.4B42.14B18.2A6.7B5.2A\$6.4B40.6B.4B3DB18.B7.B2A4B5.A.A\$7.4B38.
4B4.5BD2B17.3B6.BABA3B6.AB\$8.4B36.4B4.4B3D2B16.5B4.3BA5B4.2B\$9.4B34.
4B4.10B15.5B4.11B3.4B\$10.4B32.4B4.4B.7B13.7B3.11B.7B\$11.4B30.4B4.4B2.
8B11.4B.4B2.20B.2B\$12.4B28.4B4.4B4.8B9.4B.29B2A\$13.4B26.4B4.4B5.9B7.
4B.30B2A\$14.4B24.4B4.4B5.6B.46B\$15.4B22.4B4.4B6.7B.5BD38B\$16.4B20.4B
4.4B8.6B2.4B3D19BA9B2A5B\$17.4B18.4B4.4B9.7B.4BDBD18BABA7BA2BA5B\$18.4B
16.4B4.4B9.15BD18BABA7BABA5B2.B\$19.4B14.4B4.4B10.19B2.14BA9BA6B.B2A\$
20.4B12.4B4.4B10.18B5.32B2A\$21.4B10.4B4.4B7.B3.19B5.29B.2B\$22.4B8.4B
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B.3B2A12B3.4B4.27B\$25.4B2.4B4.4B14.2B2A11B5.4B2.27B4.2A\$26.8B4.4B16.
2B2.10B6.34B3.A\$19.A7.6B4.4B16.2B3.6B.B9.2B3AB3.6B2.7B.6B2A.A\$6.2A11.
3A6.4B4.4B16.B2AB2.4B14.3BA4.5B4.B2AB4.2B2.B2AB2A\$.2A.A2.A14.A4.6B2.
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2A15.2A.2A\$4.B11.2A3.8B2.2BA3B12.B2A2B3.2A18.4B2.6B4.A14.A2.A.2A\$.2AB
2AB2.2B4.B2AB4.5B4.A3B14.4B2.B2AB16.4B4.4B6.3A11.2A\$2.A.2A6B.7B2.6B3.
B3A2B9.B.6B3.2B16.4B4.6B7.A\$A3.34B6.10B2.2B16.4B4.8B\$2A4.27B2.4B5.11B
2A2B14.4B4.4B2.4B\$5.27B4.4B3.12B2A3B.B10.4B4.4B4.4B\$5.28B4.4B2.18B2A
8.4B4.4B6.4B\$5.27B6.4B2.15B.B2A7.4B4.4B8.4B\$2.2B.29B5.19B3.B7.4B4.4B
10.4B\$.2A32B5.18B10.4B4.4B12.4B\$.2AB.6BA9BA14B2.19B10.4B4.4B14.4B\$2.B
2.5BABA7BABA18BD15B9.4B4.4B16.4B\$4.5BA2BA7BABA18BDBD4B.7B9.4B4.4B18.
4B\$5.5B2A9BA19B3D4B2.6B8.4B4.4B20.4B\$5.38BD5B.7B6.4B4.4B22.4B\$4.46B.
6B5.4B4.4B24.4B\$3.2A30B.4B7.9B5.4B4.4B26.4B\$3.2A29B.4B9.8B4.4B4.4B28.
4B\$4.2B.20B2.4B.4B11.8B2.4B4.4B30.4B\$8.7B.11B3.7B13.7B.4B4.4B32.4B\$9.
4B3.11B4.5B15.10B4.4B34.4B\$11.2B4.5BA3B4.5B16.2B3D4B4.4B36.4B\$10.BA6.
3BABAB6.3B17.2BD5B4.4B38.4B\$10.A.A5.4B2AB7.B18.B3D4B.6B40.4B\$11.2A5.
7B6.2A18.14B42.4B\$18.7B6.A19.13B44.4B\$20.4B4.2A.A19.14B44.4B\$18.5B4.A
.A.A.A2.A13.14B46.4B\$18.2A6.A5.5A12.4B2.10B46.4B\$19.A7.2A19.4B2.11B.B
45.3BA\$16.3A3.2A4.A3.3A12.4B.14B2A45.ABA\$16.A4.A.A2.A4.A2.AB4.26B2A
46.2A\$18.4A4.2A3.2A2B4.4BD23B\$17.2A3.A4.B4.B.3B2.4B3D21B\$21.2A4.2B2.
7B.4BDBD17B\$21.10B.13BD15B2A\$23.30B2.6B2AB.B\$22.24B2.4B5.8B2A\$22.22B
3.4B8.4B.B2A\$23.20B3.4B10.2B3.B\$24.20B.4B10.2B\$24.24B10.B2AB\$27.20B
12.2A\$26.20B\$26.19B\$25.19B\$21.17B.4B\$20.2A15B.4B\$20.2A19B\$21.15B2A2B\$
24.13B2A\$25.11BAB\$26.11B\$25.11B\$25.10B\$25.9B\$24.10B2.B\$22.B.10B.B2A\$
21.2A13B2A\$21.2A6BA4B.2B\$22.7BA4B\$22.3B.3BA5B\$25.11B\$25.12B\$26.7B.4B\$
27.7B.4B\$25.B.19B2.B\$24.2A3B2A8B2ABD2A5B\$24.2AB.B2A8BAC2D3A4B\$25.B2.
10B2ACBD2A7B\$29.10BAC2BA8B\$30.B2.2B2.14BAB\$40.10BABA\$42.8BABA\$43.8BA\$
42.10B\$42.9B\$42.8B\$43.7B\$44.5B\$45.2B!``````

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Kazyan found this, which reflects a glider at the cost of a block:

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``````x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
obo\$b2o\$bo\$15bo\$13b3o\$12bo\$12b2o4\$o\$3o\$3bo6b2o\$2bo7b2o\$bo4b2o\$b2o2bobo
\$5b2o2\$8b2o\$8bo\$9b3o\$11bo!``````
dvgrn was able to hook up a block factory to it:

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``````x = 57, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
B\$2B\$3B\$4B\$.4B\$2.4B\$3.5B\$4.5B\$5.5B24.2A\$6.4BC9.A12.B2AB6.2A\$7.4BC6.3A
12.3B7.A\$8.B3CB4.A16.B.B3.BA.A\$9.5B3.2A13.6B2.B2A\$10.9B3.2A8.9B\$11.6B
4.B2A2B3.12B7.2A\$12.7B3.4B2.12B8.A\$5.A6.27B6.BA.A\$5.3A4.27B2.3B.B2A\$
8.A3.3B2C29B\$7.A.6B2C29B\$6.A.3B2A2B.29B\$6.2A.BABAB3.29B\$10.2AB4.9B.
21B\$11.4B3.7B6.19B\$13.2A3.6B8.15BC2B\$13.A7.5B7.7B.4BCBC2B\$14.3A7.2A7.
6B2.4B3C2B\$16.A7.A7.6B3.4BC4B\$25.3A4.4B6.8B\$27.A4.2B2AB12.B\$30.2AB.2A
\$29.A.AB\$29.A23.2A\$28.2A23.A\$54.3A\$56.A!``````
However, if there's no block, the glider would blow up the conduit (eater is on wrong lane), and an eater 2 wouldn't fit.
A for Awesome managed to find a good weld, however.

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``````x = 57, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
B\$2B\$3B\$4B\$.4B\$2.4B\$3.5B\$4.5B\$5.5B24.2A\$6.4BC9.A12.B2AB6.2A\$7.4BC6.3A
12.3B7.A\$8.B3CB4.A16.B.B3.BA.A\$9.5B3.2A13.6B2.B2A\$10.9B3.2A8.9B\$11.6B
4.B2A2B3.12B7.2A\$12.7B3.4B2.12B8.A\$5.A6.27B6.BA.A\$5.3A4.27B2.3B.B2A\$8.
A3.3B2C29B\$7.A.6B2C29B\$6.A.3B2A2B.29B\$6.2A.BABAB3.29B\$10.2AB4.9B.21B\$
11.4B3.7B6.19B\$13.2A3.6B8.15BC2B\$13.A7.5B2.2A3.7B.4BCBC2B\$14.3A7.2A.A
.A3.6B2.4B3C2B\$16.A7.2A.A4.6B3.4BC4B\$20.2A6.A3.4B6.8B\$20.A2.A.2A.A3.2B
2AB12.B\$22.2A.A2.A.2AB.2A\$26.2A.A.AB\$27.A.A23.2A\$27.A.A23.A\$28.A25.3A
\$56.A!``````
I think it's useful enough to go here, because compared to this old pattern, this has a smaller bounding box and accepts a glider directly instead of having to convert it to a Herschel first, and I think this is the right thread for this kind of stuff too:

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``````x = 57, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A\$21.2A3.2B2AB\$20.B2AB2.4B\$21.2B3.6B.B\$22.2B2.10B\$21.2B2A11B\$18.B
.3B2A12B\$17.2A18B\$17.2AB.15B\$18.B3.15B\$22.17B\$23.19B2.B\$23.15BC6B\$24.
7B.4BCBC6B\$24.6B2.4B3C6B\$18.2B3.7B2.4BC8B\$18.3B2.6B4.12B\$18.4B2.6B10.
4B\$19.4B.5B12.4B\$20.4B2D3B13.3B\$21.3B2D2B\$16.A5.8B\$16.3A4.3B2.2A\$19.A
.4B3.A\$18.A.A5B3.3A\$18.BA2B.4B4.A\$19.2B3.4B\$20.2B3.4B\$19.B2AB3.4B23.
2A\$20.2A5.4B22.A.A\$8.A19.4B23.A\$8.3A12.B.3B.4B22.2A\$11.A10.18B\$10.2A
3.B5.2B2A11BC4B\$10.8B3.2B2A9B3C4B\$12.8B.13BCBC4B\$12.22BC6B\$11.15B.2B
2.10B4.A\$9.17B7.8B3.A.A\$7.18B19.A.A\$7.2BC15B20.A\$6.3BCBC4B.7B\$7.2B3C
13B\$6.5BC14B\$5.10B2.8B\$4.4B11.6B\$3.4B12.5B\$2.4B14.4B\$2.2A16.3B\$3.A17.
4B\$3A20.2A\$A22.A\$24.3A\$26.A!``````

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

wwei23 wrote:
September 4th, 2020, 11:44 am
Kazyan found this, which reflects a glider at the cost of a block:..
I think it's useful enough to go here, because compared to this old pattern, this has a smaller bounding box and accepts a glider directly instead of having to convert it to a Herschel first, and I think this is the right thread for this kind of stuff too...
Yeah, I don't entirely disagree, though it's a bit more marginal than it looks. Probably a better comparison would to a demultiplexer plus an eater, which produces either nothing or a glider, just like this new mechanism... but if you get a glider output, it's a much easier to use 90-degree glider.

I just wrote some more about this back on the Useless Discoveries thread:
dvgrn wrote:
September 4th, 2020, 11:48 am
wwei23 wrote:
September 4th, 2020, 12:54 am
Nice! I actually think this is better than that old other thing, the bounding box is much smaller, and it accepts a direct glider input instead of a Herschel!
I guess it depends on what it ends up being used for. The new SET+TEST mechanism has an output lane that overlaps the input lane, so for most applications you have to spend a Herschel-based edge shooter to get the TEST glider in. Even a Bandersnatch/rectifier combination won't quite work:

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Probably for most purposes, a simple demultiplexer with an eater behind it is easily going to win the SET+TEST elegance competition. I shouldn't even have mentioned that other old eater5-based mechanism. It was just the similarity of the presence of a block causing an output glider that made it seem vaguely relevant.

Somewhere sometime this new thing will probably come in handy for a staged-recovery cleanup, though. Maybe there's something in the Spaceship Eaters thread where you have an extra glider coming out, and you just want it to bounce the signal back as fast as possible and kill off some piece of junk so that the next spaceship can come in. A direct glider bounce like this is much faster than anything you can do with Snarks, let alone Herschel-based stuff.