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Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 24th, 2019, 7:10 pm
Wow!

Trivial reductions:

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``````x = 109, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
19.D\$19.D\$19.D\$A5.A.A.2A7.D6.5A2.A.A3.A.A.3A2.3A.A.3A.3A.2A3.3A2.6A.
3A.4A3.2A.A.4A2.A3.4A\$2A2.2A.A2.4A5.D6.3A.A3.4A.3A.A.2A2.A2.5A2.A2.A
3.A.A.A4.A2.8A.4A.3A2.3A.A.2A.A\$19.D\$19.D\$19.D\$19.D!
``````
Removing everything left of the red line lowers lifespan by about ~2000 gens to 43547.

EDIT: 45K MCPS is 153:

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``````x = 109, y = 2, rule = LifeHistory
``````
43K MCPS is 122:

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``````x = 83, y = 2, rule = LifeHistory
``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 24th, 2019, 10:30 pm
testitemqlstudop wrote:43K MCPS is 122:

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``````x = 83, y = 2, rule = LifeHistory
``````
No, it's 113:

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``````x = 83, y = 2, rule = LifeHistory
``````
MCPS is minimum covering polyplet size, not polyomino.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 24th, 2019, 11:30 pm
77topaz wrote: MCPS is minimum covering polyplet size, not polyomino.
That's what I thought, so I was kinda confused.
EDIT: Hooray for me:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbbobobobbboboob\$
ooobbbbboooobobb\$
obooobobbobbboob\$
ooooobbbbbbobobb\$
booobboooobbobob\$
obboobobobobbbbo\$
obbooobooobbbobb\$
bobbobobboobbobo\$
obbbbobboobobooo\$
boobbbobooobbooo\$
bobbbobooooooboo\$
bbbbobbooobbboob\$
booobooobbbbbobo\$
bbobobbboobbbbob\$
oobbooooboooooob\$
ooboboboooobbbbb!``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 26th, 2019, 7:27 pm
P30 pre-TL shuttle/hassler from D2_+2, found by carybe:

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``````x = 24, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o4bo8bo4b3o\$obo4bo8bo4bobo\$3o6bo4bo6b3o\$3o18b3o\$3o5bo6bo5b3o\$3o4b3o4b3o4b3o\$
obo4b3o4b3o4bobo\$3o18b3o!``````
Soup, containing such additional curiosities as a pair of short-lived c/3 engines from T=18-27 or so and a pair of instantaneous clocks at T=116:

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``````x = 16, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bbbobobbbobobbbo\$
obboobobbobbbbbb\$
obbbobbbobooobbo\$
bobooooooboooobb\$
ooobobooooobobbb\$
obooboboobooobob\$
ooobobboboboooob\$
obobboooobbooboo\$
bbbbobbbbboobobo\$
bobooobooboboboo\$
boboooobbbbbbobo\$
ooooobooobbooobo\$
obobbobooobooobo\$
obbbbbbbobbobbbb\$
oobbobobbooobobo\$
ooobbobooooooobo\$
ooobbobooooooobo\$
oobbobobbooobobo\$
obbbbbbbobbobbbb\$
obobbobooobooobo\$
ooooobooobbooobo\$
boboooobbbbbbobo\$
bobooobooboboboo\$
bbbbobbbbboobobo\$
obobboooobbooboo\$
ooobobboboboooob\$
obooboboobooobob\$
ooobobooooobobbb\$
bobooooooboooobb\$
obbbobbbobooobbo\$
obboobobbobbbbbb\$
bbbobobbbobobbbo!``````
The immediate predecessor seems to be a mirrored version of block+blinker+small piece of junk, but in any case a synthesis doesn't seem like it would be too difficult.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 26th, 2019, 7:37 pm
A for awesome wrote:P30 pre-TL shuttle/hassler from D2_+2, found by carybe:

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``````x = 24, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o4bo8bo4b3o\$obo4bo8bo4bobo\$3o6bo4bo6b3o\$3o18b3o\$3o5bo6bo5b3o\$3o4b3o4b3o4b3o\$
obo4b3o4b3o4bobo\$3o18b3o!``````
...
Seems like it could be useful.

Here it is eating a block:

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``````x = 24, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
9b2o\$9b2o3\$3o4bo8bo4b3o\$obo4bo8bo4bobo\$3o6bo4bo6b3o\$3o18b3o\$3o5bo6bo5b
3o\$3o4b3o4b3o4b3o\$obo4b3o4b3o4bobo\$3o18b3o!
``````
Not too useful but it's what I found.

Somewhat related:
sarp, on the random posts thread, wrote:Carybe is a sentient supercomputer

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 27th, 2019, 11:00 am
A for awesome wrote:P30 pre-TL shuttle/hassler from D2_+2, found by carybe: ...
Nice! Here's a 10 glider synthesis (which is probably minimal, unless someone can make both TL predecessors from 3 gliders):

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``````x = 67, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
26bo\$7bo17bo\$8bo16b3o\$6b3o\$44bo20bo\$15bo28bo20bo\$14bo28bobo5bo6bo5bobo
\$14b3o4boo6bo14bo4booboobbooboo4bo\$oo5bo12bobo4boo15bo20bo\$boo4bobo12b
o5boo14bo7boobboo7bo\$o6boo35bo20bo\$43bobo5bo6bo5bobo\$44bo4boo8boo4bo\$
21b3o20bo20bo\$21bo\$bb3o17bo\$4bo\$3bo9b3o\$15bo\$14bo!
``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: February 27th, 2019, 12:02 pm
mniemiec wrote:Here's a 10 glider synthesis (which is probably minimal, unless someone can make both TL predecessors from 3 gliders):

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``````x = 67, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
26bo\$7bo17bo\$8bo16b3o\$6b3o\$44bo20bo\$15bo28bo20bo\$14bo28bobo5bo6bo5bobo
\$14b3o4boo6bo14bo4booboobbooboo4bo\$oo5bo12bobo4boo15bo20bo\$boo4bobo12b
o5boo14bo7boobboo7bo\$o6boo35bo20bo\$43bobo5bo6bo5bobo\$44bo4boo8boo4bo\$
21b3o20bo20bo\$21bo\$bb3o17bo\$4bo\$3bo9b3o\$15bo\$14bo!
``````
Well, those pre-TLs make a pre-interchange, so there are a lot of options to check. Really I think there are only 87 that include the right population sequence, though.

Unfortunately the current version of the script can't separate different orientations of the pre-TLs -- we should probably rewrite it to use apgcodes or some other hash value that notices differences in orientations of subpatterns. But it looks like all of these have two pre-beehives for a predecessor, or else converges to the same evolutionary sequence too soon:

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``````x = 6457, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
3bo75bobo70bo92bo62bo74bobo65bo75bo72bo82bo68bo78bo69bo82bo73bo70bo75b
o69bo5bo76bo67bo81bobo65bo82bo68bo78b2o67bo77bo71bo74bo10bo70bo67bo83b
o68bo74bo95bo55bo68bo74bo74bo75bo76bo74bo74bo71bo80bo76b3o75bo63bo74bo
9b2o64bo78bo70bo75bo79bo70bo80bo75bo65bo74bo82bo66bo74bo73bo81bo76bo
75bo65bo74bo74bo81bo67bo82bo74bo66bo75bo82bo73bo66bo76bo79bobo65bo94bo
59bo73b2o73b2o70bo78bo\$4bo74b2o72bo2bo88bobo60bobo72b2o67bo72bobo73b2o
78b2o70b2o77bo69bo3b2o77bo66bo5bobo69bo73bo71b2o3bobo75bo67bo74bo5b2o
67bo81bobo67bo76b2o69bo77bo71bo74bo9bobo66b2o69bob3o79bo65b2o76bo95bo
53bo70b2o73b2o73b2o74bo76bo74bo72bo73b2o79b2o66bo7bo66bo9b2o64b2o73b2o
6b2o66bo78b2o68bobo74bo72bo4bo72b2o79bo75bo65bo74bo82bo66bo74bo73b2o4b
o75bo76bo75bo65bo74bo74bo73bo4b2o69bo6bo65bobo7bo65bo6bo68bo5bobo64bob
o7bo66bo8bo64bo7bobo65bo6bo69b2o77b2o67bo94bo59bo72bobo72bobo70bo75b2o
\$2b3o75bo3b2o65b3o2bobo86b2o61b2o74bo65b3o73b2o72b2o73bo6b2o68b2o76b3o
67b3o3bobo74b3o67bo4b2o68b3o69bo3b3o68b2o4b2o68b2o4b3o65b3o75bo5bo65b
3o5bo75b2o66b3o73bo4bo66b3o4bo70b3o69b3o72b3o9b2o68b2o66b3obo70b2o7b3o
66b2o73b3o93b3o53b3o67b2o73b2o73b2o73b3o74b3o72b3o72b3o70b2o3bo75b2o
68b2o6bo66b2o7bobo62b2o73b2o9bo63b3o4bo68bo3b2o69b2o73b3o73bo3b3o69b2o
78b3o73b3o63b3o72b3o80b3o64b3o72b3o72b2o6bo72b3o74b3o73b3o63b3o72b3o
72b3o74bo4b2o66b3o7bo65b2o5b3o66bo5b3o64b3o5b2o66b2o8bo63bobo6b3o65bo
6b2o64b3o6bobo66b2o79bo65b3o92b3o57b3o72bo74bo70b3o76b2o\$76bo6b2o71b2o
373bo144b2o79b2o147bo144b3o147b2o147bobo148b3o80bo68bo78b2o70bo77bobo
73bo296bo70b2o155bo95bo126bo74bo74bo373b2o143b2o3bo69b2o78bo74bo75bo
69b2o222b3o678b3o516b3o80b3o65bo73b3o81bo74b3o64b2o72b3o81b2o72bo367bo
74bo149bo\$77bo7bo446b2o71b2o68b2o79b2o375bo66b2o78bo71bo229b3o69bo77bo
bo67b3o77b2o74b2o365bo157b2o94b2o123b2o73b2o73b2o373bobo148b2o73bo74b
2o73b2o74b3o66bobo6bobo64bo231bo67bo74b2o81bo74b2o1496b2o293bo74bo74bo
149bo\$bo5b2o66b3o72b2o298b3o78b2o71b2o74b2o68b2o6bo68bo154b3o147b2o
145b2o79b2o290b3o71b2o4bo145b3o70b2o4bobo68bobo72bobo70bo73b2o82b2o
140b2o4bobo65b3o25bobo124b2o73b2o73b2o71b2o75b2o69bo3b2o155b2o140bobo
73b2o72bobo72bobo70b3o79b2o66bo73b2o153b2o68b2o5b3o64bobo6b3o63b3o5b2o
65b3o6bobo64bo6b3o64b3o72b3o6bo146b3o74b3o73b3o63b3o72b3o72b3o230b3o
139b3o156b3o138b3o72b2o5bobo65bo75b3o92b3o51bobo3b3o66b3o72b3o72b2o73b
3o\$b2o4bobo141b2o148bo74bo73bo4b3o148bo72b2o70b2o72bobo3b3o67b3o72b2o
4bo67b3o72b3o4bobo70bo73bobo77bobo139b2o222b2o153bo69bobo75b2o73b2o72b
o72bobo81bobo138bobo74bo375bobo74bobo67b2o3bobo70bo82b2o216bobo222bo
80bo64b3o72bobo3bo70b2o78b2o66bobo7bo66bo8bo65bo5bobo66bo6bo66b2o7bo
66bo74bo5b2o71b3o66b2o6bo66b3o7bo65b2o8bo65bo4b2o68bo5b3o66bo6b2o64b3o
80b3o74bo64b3o74bo81b3o74bo63b3o74bo73b2o73b2o75bo94bo52b2o5bo216bobo\$
obo4bo142bo151bo74bo73bo3bo80b2o72b2o69bo68bo75b2o3bo69bo73bobo5bo66bo
76bo76b2o155bo64bo73b2o79b2o144bo73b2o76bo72bo76bo74bo70b3o72bo83bo
142bo73bo299b3o74bo71bobo2bo69bobo2bo73bo83bo61bo377bo223bo2b2o69bobo
72bo82bo75bo65bo74bo73bobo6bo66bo74bo6bobo72bo67b2o4bo69bo6bo65bobo7bo
65bo4b2o68bo6bo67bo7bobo65bo82bo73bo67bo73bo84bo73bo66bo73bo73bo74b2o
75bo94bo59bo217bo4b2o\$300b3o72b3o78bo78b2o73bobo219bo69bo74bo73bo74bo
77bobo220bo74bo77b2o69b2o147b2o1051bo147b2o149b3o146b2o526b3o73bobo70b
o73bo604bo67bo75bo75bo80bo75bo74bo66bo82bo141bo158bo140bo228bo295bo75b
o76b2o\$537bo72bo814b3o154bo67b2o150bo598bo450bo148bo298b2o3bo225b2o
298bo218b3o1876b2o295b2o73b2o78bo\$1652bo525bobo221bo523bo378b2o225b2o
296bo2098bobo293bobo73bobo\$300b2o73b2o1801b2o220b3o298b3o75b3o144b2o
222b2o152bobo224bo\$301b2o73b2o1050b2o749bo523bo75bo145bobo223b2o3301bo
\$300bo74bo1051bobo1272bo77bo369bo3302b2o\$1429bo606bo363b2o4051bobo\$
2035b2o363bobo3598b2o\$2035bobo362bo3599b2o\$6002bo4\$6076bo\$6076b2o\$
6075bobo\$2626bo\$226bo2400bo\$227bo2397b3o\$225b3o2402bo\$2630b2o\$2629bobo
\$225b2o\$226b2o\$225bo!``````
So the 2bo\$2ob2o\$2bo! ancestor of the TL is in the wrong orientation and gets mixed up with the completed pentadecathla.

The two-glider interchange and all of the above three-glider variants also fail to work for an additional reason. The two gliders would interfere with the pentadecathlon-making gliders. The following shows this and also the pre-TL wrong-orientation problem:

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``````x = 28, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
24bo\$23bo\$23b3o3\$21b2o\$2o18bobo\$b2o19bo4bo\$o4bo5b2o2b2o8b2o\$5bobo2bobo
2bobo8b2o\$5b2o5bo2bo3\$2b3o\$4bo\$3bo!``````
... So ten gliders is minimal as far as I'm concerned, anyway!

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 2nd, 2019, 10:12 am
1583-tick C4_4 diehard:

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``````x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oboobobbobboooobbobbbboboboobooo\$
oobooobooboooobbobooooobobbbboob\$
ooboobbbbbbbooobbbbobobbooobobbo\$
bbooboooboboooooobbobbbooboooooo\$
obbobbooboboboobooboboboboobboob\$
oboooooboooobboboobboboooboboboo\$
bboboboobbooboobbbobobobboooobbb\$
oooobobbbbbooobobobooobbboboobob\$
bbbooobboobbobbobbbbbobobbobbboo\$
oobbboobbooooooooboboboobbooobbb\$
boobobboobbobobooobbbbobboobbbob\$
bobbbooobobobooooboooooboooooboo\$
boooobbobbboobboobbobbooobbboooo\$
bobbbbobboboboobbooboooboobooooo\$
obbboobobbobboooooobobobbooooobo\$
bobooobbboooobooooboooooobbbobbb\$
bbbobbboooooobooooboooobbbooobob\$
obooooobboboboooooobbobboboobbbo\$
ooooobooboooboobboobobobbobbbbob\$
oooobbbooobbobboobboobbbobboooob\$
ooboooooboooooboooobobobooobbbob\$
bobbboobbobbbbooobobobboobboboob\$
bbbooobbooboboboooooooobboobbboo\$
oobbbobbobobbbbbobbobboobbooobbb\$
boboobobbbooobobobooobbbbboboooo\$
bbboooobbobobobbbooboobboobobobb\$
oobobobooobobboobobboooobooooobo\$
boobbooboboboboobooboboboobbobbo\$
ooooooboobbbobbooooooboboooboobb\$
obbobooobbobobbbbooobbbbbbbooboo\$
boobbbbobooooobobboooobooboooboo\$
oooboobobobbbbobboooobbobboboobo!``````
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... f3b5bbfb4a (carybe, 2019-02-26)

Trivial p14:

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``````x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobbbboobbobbbbobbbbobboobbbboo\$
oooooobbooboobbobbooboobboooooo\$
bobbbboooobbbbooobbbboooobbbbob\$
bobbobooobbbobooobobbbooobobbob\$
boboobbooobooooboooobooobboobob\$
bobbbboobooobbobobboooboobbbbob\$
oboobobobbooboobooboobboboboobo\$
obooooooboboobbbbbooboboooooobo\$
boooobbbbbbobbobobbobbbbbboooob\$
booboobobbobobbbbbobobbobooboob\$
obbbboobbooboobobooboobboobbbbo\$
bobbooooobbbobbbbbobbbooooobbob\$
boboobboboooobbobboooobobboobob\$
bbbbobobbbobbbbbbbbbobbbobobbbb\$
bbooooobobbbbbobobbbbbobooooobb\$
oooobbbbbbobobbbbbobobbbbbboooo\$
bbooooobobbbbbobobbbbbobooooobb\$
bbbbobobbbobbbbbbbbbobbbobobbbb\$
boboobboboooobbobboooobobboobob\$
bobbooooobbbobbbbbobbbooooobbob\$
obbbboobbooboobobooboobboobbbbo\$
booboobobbobobbbbbobobbobooboob\$
boooobbbbbbobbobobbobbbbbboooob\$
obooooooboboobbbbbooboboooooobo\$
oboobobobbooboobooboobboboboobo\$
bobbbboobooobbobobboooboobbbbob\$
boboobbooobooooboooobooobboobob\$
bobbobooobbbobooobobbbooobobbob\$
bobbbboooobbbbooobbbboooobbbbob\$
oooooobbooboobbobbooboobboooooo\$
oobbbboobbobbbbobbbbobboobbbboo!``````
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 42d6684830 (Apple Bottom, 2019-02-26)

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 10:18 am
xp120 in C1, found by benetnasch85:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
ooobobbooboboobo\$
oobbobbbbbbbbboo\$
obobbobobboobobb\$
bbbbooobbbooooob\$
ooooooboobbbbobb\$
bobbbobobbooobbb\$
bbboooboboobbobo\$
bbobbbbobbbobbbo\$
ooooboboooobbbbb\$
oobobobboboooooo\$
obbboboobobbbbob\$
booobbobooboboob\$
bobobbbboobooboo\$
bbbobbobobobobbo\$
bbbobooobbbboooo\$
ooobooobooobbbbb!``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 10:15 pm
100% guarantee a synthesis could be made from this:

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``````x = 1565, y = 1550, rule = B3/S23
b2o\$o2bo\$b2o9\$11b3o\$11bo\$12bo126\$143b3o\$143bo\$144bo126\$258b3o\$258bo\$
259bo126\$399b3o\$399bo\$400bo126\$517b2o\$516b2o\$518bo126\$658b2o\$657b2o\$
659bo126\$783b2o\$782b2o\$784bo126\$905b2o\$904b2o\$906bo126\$1042b3o\$1042bo\$
1043bo126\$1145b3o\$1145bo\$1146bo126\$1297b3o\$1297bo\$1298bo126\$1439b3o\$
1439bo\$1440bo126\$1563b2o\$1562b2o\$1564bo!
``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 10:47 pm
testitemqlstudop wrote:xp120 in C1, found by benetnasch85:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
ooobobbooboboobo\$
oobbobbbbbbbbboo\$
obobbobobboobobb\$
bbbbooobbbooooob\$
ooooooboobbbbobb\$
bobbbobobbooobbb\$
bbboooboboobbobo\$
bbobbbbobbbobbbo\$
ooooboboooobbbbb\$
oobobobboboooooo\$
obbboboobobbbbob\$
booobbobooboboob\$
bobobbbboobooboo\$
bbbobbobobobobbo\$
bbbobooobbbboooo\$
ooobooobooobbbbb!``````
And calcyman's prediction comes true! (I can't find the Catagolue page he posted it on, sadly.)
EDIT: I love how the synthesis of the figure eight is catalysed by the pentadecathlon.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 10:58 pm
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: And calcyman's prediction comes true! (I can't find the Catagolue page he posted it on, sadly.)
EDIT: I love how the synthesis of the figure eight is catalysed by the pentadecathlon.
I have a feeling you might be thinking of codeholic's old post in this thread:
codeholic (on 2015-08-27) wrote:I bet it's going to be figure 8 on pentadecathlon, i. e. period 120.
Funnily enough, he also correctly predicted that p24 would be the next to show up:
codeholic (on 2015-04-23) wrote: If you're talking about asymmetric soups, then I would bet it's going to be period 24, namely a figure eight on pulsar.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 5th, 2019, 8:17 pm
41172-generation C4_4 methuselah:

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``````x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
2b3ob2o2bo3b2o6b3ob3obo\$ob2o3bobo2b2o2bo2b3obo2b2obo\$b2o2bo2bobo5bob3o
bo3b2ob3o\$o2bo3bobo5bo3bobobobob2ob2o\$4ob2ob4obo2b4obo2bobo4bo\$3obob4o
b2ob7o6bobo\$3bo2b2o2b2obobob2ob8o3bo\$o3bob2o3bob3o3bo3b4obob2o\$2obo2b
6obo4b3ob2o2b2obo\$obo3bob3o2b6o2b3o2b3obo\$bob2obo2bo2b2o2bobo3b2obobob
obo\$b2o2b2obo2bob4o3bo2b5o\$b5ob2o3bo2b5obo4bo3bo\$2bob3ob3obob3o3b6obo
2bo\$4b3o2bo2bobo2b2obobobobo4bo\$b2ob2o3b5o4b3obob3obo2bo\$o2bob3obob3o
4b5o3b2ob2o\$o4bobobobob2o2bobo2bo2b3o\$bo2bob6o3b3obob3ob3obo\$bo3bo4bob
5o2bo3b2ob5o\$4b5o2bo3b4obo2bob2o2b2o\$obobobob2o3bobo2b2o2bo2bob2obo\$bo
b3o2b3o2b6o2b3obo3bobo\$2bob2o2b2ob3o4bob6o2bob2o\$2obob4o3bo3b3obo3b2ob
o3bo\$o3b8ob2obobob2o2b2o2bo\$2bobo6b7ob2ob4obob3o\$o4bobo2bob4o2bob4ob2o
b4o\$2ob2obobobobo3bo5bobo3bo2bo\$3ob2o3bob3obo5bobo2bo2b2o\$2bob2o2bob3o
2bo2b2o2bobo3b2obo\$bob3ob3o6b2o3bo2b2ob3o!
``````
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... b99d39f77a (carybe, 2019-02-28)

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 4:22 pm
This soup beats the C1 diehard record by a mere two generations:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obobobbooooobooo\$
bbooobbooboboobo\$
obobobboobboboob\$
obbbbbbbbboboobo\$
oooobbbboobbbobo\$
bbobooooobbbbbob\$
bboobbbobbbobbbo\$
bboboobobobbboob\$
oboooobobboobbob\$
ooobbbbbbobobbbb\$
bbbbbooboobboobb\$
obobobooboobbboo\$
bbbbbbobboooboob\$
bbbobboooboooboo\$
oboboooobobboobo\$
boooobbobooooboo!``````
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 16a4ebe5cc (Rob Liston, 2019-03-06)

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 6:08 pm
codeholic wrote:Griddle and block with 6 gliders (looks like a significant improvement, if the wiki page is up-to-date): ...
Matthias posted that same exact synthesis on 2014-11-08.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 6:12 pm
mniemiec wrote:
codeholic wrote:Griddle and block with 6 gliders (looks like a significant improvement, if the wiki page is up-to-date): ...
Matthias posted that same exact synthesis on 2014-11-08.
Actually, codeholic posted that synthesis on October 6, 2014, the day of the post you are quoting. I think you were accidentally on page 1.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 6:45 pm
AforAmpere wrote:Actually, codeholic posted that synthesis on October 6, 2014, the day of the post you are quoting. I think you were accidentally on page 1.
Oops! This was very odd. I usually check my "view your posts" page, and open all changed pages on their last pages, but somehow, today, I opened all of them on their first pages. I had noticed the error on all the other topics, but not this one.

Also, this points out that my attribution notation for this synthesis was incorrect (and as a result, almost two dozen other related syntheses as well). Thanks for the correction!

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 10th, 2019, 9:42 pm
Remarkably common in C1, synthesis might be called for:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obobbboooobboooo\$
ooobbooobbobbooo\$
bbbbooobobbooobb\$
ooobbboobbbbbobb\$
obbboboobobbbooo\$
booooooboobbobob\$
boooobbbbbbbbbob\$
boobooobboobobbb\$
bbbobobooboooboo\$
oobbboooboooooob\$
ooobbbbbbboboooo\$
bbobobbbbbboboob\$
obobbbbbbbbbbobb\$
obooobobobboobob\$
obbooobooooboobo\$
bbbbbbobboooobob!``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 10th, 2019, 10:36 pm
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Remarkably common in C1, synthesis might be called for:

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``rle``
For such an unusual still life, it's got a seed that's both relatively simple and clean:

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``````x = 12, y = 23, rule = Life
5bo\$4bobo\$5b2o7\$bo\$bo\$2o\$o4b2o3b2o\$o3b3o3b2o\$5b2o7\$6b2o\$6b2o!
``````
Generation 34 is probably much easier, though.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 11th, 2019, 3:38 am
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Remarkably common in C1, synthesis might be called for: ...
BlinkerSpawn wrote:For such an unusual still life, it's got a seed that's both relatively
simple and clean: ...
Here is a 15-glider synthesis. The 5-glider LOM can likely be improved; unfortunately, most LOM predecessors I've seen (and all I have listed) form the LOM in a way that is not usable here.

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``````x = 144, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
122bo\$bobo117bo\$boo18bo29bo69b3o\$bbo17bobo27bobo34b3o27b3o\$20boo28boo\$
3o8bo\$bbo4bobbo25bobo\$bo3bobobb3o24boo\$6boo29bo\$\$44bo\$8bo16bo19bo9bo\$
7boo16boo16b3o9boo\$7bobo15boo28boo\$26bo29bo3\$63boo\$47b3o7bo4boo11boobb
oo24boobboo24boobboo\$39boo8bo7boo5bo10boobboo24boobboo24boobboo\$40boo
6bo7bobo\$39bo35b8o22b8o22b8o\$75bo3bo3bo4boo15bo3bo3bo4boo15bo3bo3bo\$
76boo3b3o4boo16boo3b3o4boo16boo3b3o\$48b3o27b3o27b3o27b3o\$50bo27bobbo
26bobbo8b3o15bobbo\$49bo29boo28boo9bo18boo\$51b3o67bo\$51bo\$52bo!
``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 3:19 pm
Soup on the right ties the record for longest-lasting C1 diehard:

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``````x = 52, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obobo2b5ob3o21b4obo4bo3bo\$2b3o2b2obob2obo24b3obobo4bo\$obobo2b2o2bob2o
21b2o2b6o2b2o\$o9bob2obo26b2ob2o2bobo\$4o4b2o3bobo20bo2bo2b7o\$2bob5o5bo
21b8o2bobo\$2b2o3bo3bo3bo24bob2o3b3o\$2bob2obobo3b2o21b4ob2o3b4obo\$ob4ob
o2b2o2bo22b2o2bo3bobo2bo\$3o6bobo24bob3ob2ob6o\$5b2ob2o2b2o23b3ob2obo3b
2o\$obobob2ob2o3b2o22b2obo2bobob2o\$6bo2b3ob2o22bobo2bob2obob3o\$3bo2b3ob
3ob2o20b3ob5o2bo2b2o\$obob4obo2b2obo20bob7ob2ob2o\$b4o2bob4ob2o27b3obob
3o!``````
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... a7361cec38 (@th222, 2019-03-21)

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 5:20 pm
New p96 Corderpuffer in D2_x:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbboboobobbboooo\$
bboobbbooobobbbo\$
oboobbboobobobbo\$
oobbobbobbbbbobo\$
boooobbbbbobbbob\$
bobbooboobbobobb\$
booobbboobbbbbob\$
bbbbobboboobbooo\$
obobobboooobooob\$
obbbooobbbbbbbbo\$
obbbobobbbobbbbo\$
boooboooobooobbb\$
obboobbbbobobooo\$
bbobobboboboboob\$
obbbobbbboooobbb\$
oobobooobbbboobb!``````
Can't find the discoverer — Catagolue's /attribute doesn't seem to be working for higher symmetries at the moment.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 4:39 am
It's most likely that /attribute can't find the discoverer because the haul in which it was discovered has already been auto-deleted - this is quite possible, as carybe was (up until a few hours ago) submitting hauls fast enough they get auto-deleted in less than 12 hours. This also means it is extremely likely the discoverer was carybe.

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 24th, 2019, 5:07 am
Do 10x10 soups count as "natural"?

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xq4_27dee6zw4eb776/b3s23

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``````x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
o2b3ob3o\$6o2b2o\$3b2o2b2o\$bo2bo2b3o\$bo3b3o\$bo7bo\$2ob2o2b2o\$b2o3bob2o\$b
2o3bo\$b2ob3o2bo!
``````

Re: Soup search results

Posted: March 24th, 2019, 7:51 am
testitemqlstudop wrote:Do 10x10 soups count as "natural"?

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xq4_27dee6zw4eb776/b3s23

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``````x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
o2b3ob3o\$6o2b2o\$3b2o2b2o\$bo2bo2b3o\$bo3b3o\$bo7bo\$2ob2o2b2o\$b2o3bob2o\$b
2o3bo\$b2ob3o2bo!
``````
No-one except for you knows how to convert a seed string into a 10x10 soup.