Looks like this is known as yl1152_2016_06_24 now.Apple Bottom wrote:A new zz_LINEAR in B3/S23/C1:
Soup search results
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Re: Soup search results
I'm assuming all zz items in b3s23/C1 eventually get manually converted to yl ones?
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Re: Soup search results
Yes, or at least those that are, in fact, lineargrowth patterns.muzik wrote:I'm assuming all zz items in b3s23/C1 eventually get manually converted to yl ones?
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Re: Soup search results
Can't wait until our first (real) zz_QUADRATIC.
Would there then be a new "yq" category for quadratic patterns?
Would there then be a new "yq" category for quadratic patterns?
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Re: Soup search results
A heart on two beehives finally appeared in an asymmetric soup
http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 3823/b3s23
which leads to the following synthesis from 13 gliders:
Unfortunately, I'm embarrassed to say, I can't seem to find any beehivetotub converters, which could turn this into heart on two tubs, the smallest heart variant, and the only known period 5 oscillator (that I am aware of) up to 26 bits without a synthesis, other than 17 versions of Elkies's P5, and several versions of Silver's P5.
http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 3823/b3s23
which leads to the following synthesis from 13 gliders:
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x = 173, y = 96, rule = B3/S23
12bo$13boo$12boo$$18bobo$18boo$19bo$16bo24boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$16b
oo23boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$15bobo33boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$51boo28boo
28boo28boo28boo8$91b3o8bo18b3o8bo18b3o8bo$62bo39bo29bo29bo$60bobo26bo
5bo6bo16bo5bo6bo16bo5bo6bo$57boobboo26bo5bo23bo5bo23bo5bo$56bobo14boo
14bo5bobb3o3b3o12bo5bobb3o3b3o12bo5bobb3o3b3o$58bo13boo$74bo16b3o8bo
18b3o8bo18b3o8bo$102bo29bo29bo$70boo30bo29bo29bo$71boo82boo$70bo53boo
28bobbo$123bobo29boo$125bo$127boo$127bobo$127bo10$117bobo$118boo$118bo
$90bo29bo$41boo47bo6bo22bo6bo29bo$41boo47bo5bobo21bo5bobo27bobo$51boo
43bobo27bobo27bobo$51boo33b3o8bo18b3o8bo29bo$$95b5o25b5o25b5o$94bo5bo
23bo5bo23bo5bo$90boobbobbo22boobbobbo22boobbobbo$89bobboboboboo19bobbo
boboboo19bobboboboboo$90boobbobbo22boobbobbo22boobbobbo$94bobbo26bobbo
26bobbo$31b3o8bo52bo29bo29bo$42bo$29bo5bo6bo$29bo5bo$29bo5bobb3o3b3o$$
31b3o8bo$42bo$42bo$35boo9bo$34bobbo7boo$35boo8bobo18$74b3o$74bo$75bo4$
bo$boo$obo!
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Re: Soup search results
Second natural yl2304, from a haul of @th222's:
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbbobobooobboooo$
oobbobbbobbobbbo$
boboobooooooobbb$
bobobobobboobobb$
bobboobbbbobbbbo$
bbobbbobbobobbob$
bobbboooboobobbo$
ooboooobobobbboo$
bbobboboboboooob$
ooobbbbobbooboob$
bobobobobboboooo$
ooobbboobbbbbobb$
bboobobbboobbobb$
oboobobbobbooobo$
oboboobbbobbboob$
bbobbbooooobbobo!
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Re: Soup search results
Rpentomino to two (usable, unhindered) Herschels... but destroys circuit in doing so:
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x = 30, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
2.D16.2A$D.D15.A2.A$3D16.2A$D3$20.A$20.2A$19.2A3$23.2A$23.A$24.3A$26.
A$27.3D$27.D$26.3D!
Re: Soup search results
11 gliders:mniemiec wrote:A heart on two beehives finally appeared in an asymmetric soup
http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 3823/b3s23
which leads to the following synthesis from 13 gliders:Code: Select all
x = 173, y = 96, rule = B3/S23 12bo$13boo$12boo$$18bobo$18boo$19bo$16bo24boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$16b oo23boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$15bobo33boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$51boo28boo 28boo28boo28boo8$91b3o8bo18b3o8bo18b3o8bo$62bo39bo29bo29bo$60bobo26bo 5bo6bo16bo5bo6bo16bo5bo6bo$57boobboo26bo5bo23bo5bo23bo5bo$56bobo14boo 14bo5bobb3o3b3o12bo5bobb3o3b3o12bo5bobb3o3b3o$58bo13boo$74bo16b3o8bo 18b3o8bo18b3o8bo$102bo29bo29bo$70boo30bo29bo29bo$71boo82boo$70bo53boo 28bobbo$123bobo29boo$125bo$127boo$127bobo$127bo10$117bobo$118boo$118bo $90bo29bo$41boo47bo6bo22bo6bo29bo$41boo47bo5bobo21bo5bobo27bobo$51boo 43bobo27bobo27bobo$51boo33b3o8bo18b3o8bo29bo$$95b5o25b5o25b5o$94bo5bo 23bo5bo23bo5bo$90boobbobbo22boobbobbo22boobbobbo$89bobboboboboo19bobbo boboboo19bobboboboboo$90boobbobbo22boobbobbo22boobbobbo$94bobbo26bobbo 26bobbo$31b3o8bo52bo29bo29bo$42bo$29bo5bo6bo$29bo5bo$29bo5bobb3o3b3o$$ 31b3o8bo$42bo$42bo$35boo9bo$34bobbo7boo$35boo8bobo18$74b3o$74bo$75bo4$ bo$boo$obo!
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x = 170, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo$119bo$38bo78b3o$36bobo$37b2o56bobo$40b2o39b2o12b2o22b3o5bo39bo$
39bobo39b2o13bo29bobo37bobo$6bo34bo51bo23bo8bobo37bobo$b2ob2o38bo39bo
7b2o23bo9bo39bo$obo2b2o36bobo37bobob3o2bobo22bo$2bo40b2o38b2o2bo37b5o
35b5o$88bo35bo4bo34bo4bo$120b2o2bo2b3o30b2o2bo2b3o$119bo2bobobobo30bo
2bobobobo$120b2o2bob2o32b2o2bob2o$124b3o37b3o5$83b2o33b2o$82b2o33bo2bo
$84bo32bobo$118bo$75bo39b2o$75b2o37bobo$74bobo39bo!
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)n [sigma(n)+tau(n)n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
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Re: Soup search results
I found two methods, both for eight gliders. This one proceeds via boat:mniemiec wrote:Unfortunately, I'm embarrassed to say, I can't seem to find any beehivetotub converters, which could turn this into heart on two tubs, the smallest heart variant, and the only known period 5 oscillator (that I am aware of) up to 26 bits without a synthesis, other than 17 versions of Elkies's P5, and several versions of Silver's P5.
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x = 62, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
7b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o11b2o3b2o$7bo2bo2bo4bo18bo2bo2bo11bo2bo2bo$8b5o4bo20b
5o13b5o$17b3o$10bo29bo17bo$9bobo27bobo15bobo$bo7bobo28b2o16bo$2bo7bo$
3o12bo6b2o$14bo6b2o11b2o3b3o$14b3o6bo10b2o3bo$5b2o33bo$4bobo30b2o$6bo
8b3o18bobo$15bo22bo$16bo!
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x = 68, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
31bo$17b2o3b2o6bo13b2o3b2o10b2o3b2o$8bo8bo2bo2bo6b3o11bo2bo2bo10bo2bo
2bo$9bo8b5o22b5o12b5o$bo5b3o$2bo17bo18b2o6bo16bo$3o3bo12bobo18b2o4bobo
14bobo$6b2o11bobo17bo3bobo2bo15bo$5bobo12bo22b2o3bobo$49b2o3$46b3o$48b
o$47bo2$13bo$13b2o$12bobo3b3o$20bo$19bo!
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Re: Soup search results
Is this known?
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x = 41, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
38bo$38bobo$38b2o$31bo$30b2o$30bobo2$28b2o$16bo10bobo$9bo4bobo12bo$10b
2o3b2o$9b2o9$15b2o$14bobo$16bo4$24b2o$24bobo$24bo8$2o$b2o$o!
Re: Soup search results
I figured that a boat would be the likely avenue, but I could never quite find a way that would make a clean boat predecessor.Extrementhusiast wrote:I found two methods, both for eight gliders. This one proceeds via boat: ... And this one proceeds via integral w/very long hook: ...
It is definitely new to me.BlinkerSpawn wrote:Is this known? ...
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Re: Soup search results
Predecessor for a large, unnamed, period 2 oscillator.
I couldn't find a synthesis from this, but maybe somebody else can.
EDIT:
Here is a 9glider synthesis of block on cuphook with preblock.
This is better than the previous record of 12 gliders
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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobo$10bobo$11bo2$9b2obo$10b3o$11bo2$5bo$b2o2b2o$o2bo2b2o$b2o2b
2o!
EDIT:
Here is a 9glider synthesis of block on cuphook with preblock.
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x = 24, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
8bo$2bobob2o$3b2o2b2o$3bo2$9bo$10bo$8b3o$12bobo$5bo6b2o$3bobo7bo$4b2o$
b2o19bo$obo18bo$2bo18b3o2$15b2o2b2o$16b2obobo$15bo3bo!
Re: Soup search results
Did you find this from a soup? If so, could you please post a link to it? B heptominos are easy to synthesize, but they and their predecessors tend to move rapidly forward, so it's not easy to make one in a position where a beehive could be brought in behind it.Goldtiger997 wrote:Predecessor for a large, unnamed, period 2 oscillator. ... I couldn't find a synthesis from this, but maybe somebody else can.
This soup: http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 7345/b3s23 leads to a different synthesis from 16 gliders:
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x = 105, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
6bo$7bo$5b3obbo70bo$10bobo31b3o27b3o3bo$10boo3bo64b3o$15bobo24bo5bo23b
o5bo$15boo25bo5bo23bo5bo$42bo5bo23bo5bo$8bo$9boo33b3o27b3o$8boo6bobo$
3bo12boo$4boo11bo$3boo$39boo28boo28boo$38bobbo26bobbo26bobbo$38bobo27b
obo27bobo$19bo16booboobbo22booboobbo22booboobbo$oo15boo16bobbobboobo
20bobbobboobo20bobbobboobo$boo15boo15boboobbobbo20boboobbobbo20boboobb
obbo$o35bobbooboo22bobbooboo22bobbooboo$39bobo27bobo27bobo$38bobbo26bo
bbo26bobbo$39boo28boo28boo$15boo$bbo11boo$bboo12bo$bobo6boo$9boo22b3o
27b3o$11bo$31bo5bo23bo5bo$3boo26bo5bo23bo5bo$bbobo26bo5bo23bo5bo$4bo3b
oo47b3o$7bobo23b3o23bo3b3o$9bobb3o43bo$12bo$13bo!
Nice! It will take me a while to figure out how many other related syntheses this will improve.Goldtiger997 wrote:Here is a 9glider synthesis of block on cuphook with preblock. ...
EDIT: This can be reduced by one glider:
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x = 127, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
57bo$57bobo$57boo$$37bo19bo$36bobo17bobo$37bo19bo$$107bo$105boo$106boo
$10boo25boo18boo18boo18boo$6boobbobo24boo18boo18boo18boo8bo$5bobobbo
95boo15boo$7bo93bo4bobo14bo$101bobo16boobo$101boo17bobboboo$123boboo$
99boo22bo$98boo21bobo$100bo20boo$$33bo19bo19bo19bo$32bobo17bobo17bobo
17bobo$33bo19bo19bo19bo13$bo$boo$obo!
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Re: Soup search results
Calcyman found another new natural double switch engine  also the first natural yl576:
And a natural quadpoleonquadpole as well:
This one's formed from a quadpoleonship.
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obobbbboboobbbob$
oooboboobooooboo$
booobbbbobbobooo$
boobbbbooooboooo$
boboobooobobboob$
obooobobbbboobbb$
oobbbbbbobooobbb$
bbobooobobbbbooo$
obooboobbboobooo$
boobbobbobbobbbo$
oboooobbooobbooo$
bbbbboobboobbboo$
obbbboboooboobob$
ooboobooobbobooo$
obbbboboooobooob$
obbbbobbobboobbo!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
oobobobbooboobbo$
oobbbboooooobobb$
boobboooboobobbb$
bobbboobboobooob$
oobbobobbooobbbo$
boobbboobobobboo$
bbooobboobbobobo$
oooboobbbooobobo$
bbbobboooooboobo$
boboboboobbobbbo$
bbboooobboobbbbb$
oboboboobbbbobbo$
obbboboooboboobb$
bobbobbbooboboob$
obbooooboboobboo$
obooboobobbobboo!
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Re: Soup search results
Specifically transquadpoleonquadpole. We've already seen a cisquadpoleonquadpole (which differ in terms of the relative phases of the constituent quadpoles).
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Re: Soup search results
Another 2 glider can be reduced at an early stage. Full synthesis:Extrementhusiast wrote:Twoglider reduction of that component:mniemiec wrote:Here is a 11glider synthesis for one of the two unknown 18bit 1beaconlike P2s from a predecessor from a soup. Half an hour after finding this, I found a way to make an converter (based on predecessors from many soups that use the same mechanism) that also makes this from 11 gliders, and gives the other unknown one from 14 gliders:Code: Select all
RLE
. . .Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 10bo$10bobo$obo7b2o$b2o4bo$bo6b2o$7b2o10$8bo2b2o$8b4obo$13bo$10b3o$10b o!
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x = 109, y = 87, rule = B3/S23
85bo$85bobo$75bobo7b2o$76b2o4bo$76bo6b2o$82b2o$41bo$39bobo$40b2o4$40bo
bo$40b2o59b2ob2o$41bo60bobo$63bo2b2o15bo2b2o14bo4bo$42b2o19b4obo14b4ob
o14b4obo$43b2o23bo19bo19bo$42bo22b3o17b3o17b3o$65bo19bo19bo2$45b3o$45b
o$46bo38$85bo$85bobo$53bo21bobo7b2o$53bobo20b2o4bo$53b2o21bo6b2o$82b2o
3$2bo$obo$b2o$6bo32bobo$6bobo31b2o$6b2o16b2o14bo3b2o55b2ob2o$23bo2bo
16bo2bo55bobo$24b2o18b2o17bo2b2o15bo2b2o14bo4bo$63b4obo14b4obo14b4obo$
68bo19bo19bo$65bobo17bobo17bobo$65b2o18b2o18b2o3$48b2o$37b2o8b2o$36bob
o10bo$38bo!
Re: Soup search results
Rich Holmes discovered a new p16 using apgsearch
Object: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0ck8/b3s23
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... c55d8d4edc
Object: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0ck8/b3s23
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... c55d8d4edc
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Re: Soup search results
That's awesome! And only two cells larger than Achim's p16. It can interact slightly with a snake:codeholic wrote:Rich Holmes discovered a new p16 using apgsearch
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x = 11, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o2$4bo$2b2obo$2bo3bo$o5bo$o5bo2bo$o7bobo$2b4o2b2o2$2b
4o2b2o$o7bobo$o5bo2bo$o5bo$2bo3bo$2b2obo$4bo!
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Re: Soup search results
That p16 is sparkier than the 4th of July fireworks a few hours ago. Congrats to Rich Holmes! Certainly, that can be put to use.
EDIT: And, as its first application, a reduction of the p48 gun:
EDIT: And, as its first application, a reduction of the p48 gun:
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x = 47, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
17b2o11b2o14bo$16bo2bo9bo2bo$16bobo3b2ob2o3bobo$14b2o2bobo7bobo2b2o$
15bobobo4bo4bobobo$14bo2b2o2b7o2b2o2bo$14b2o5bobobobo5b2o$23bobo$5bo2b
2o9b3o5b3o$4bobo2bo2bo5bobobo3bobobo$4bob2obobobo4b2o2b5o2b2o$3b2obo2b
obo2bo$3bo2bob2o2bo$4b3obobo3b3o$6b2obo5b2o$2bobo2bobo3bo2bo6bo$2b2o2b
2obob2o2b3o4bobo15b2o$8b2obo3b2o4bo3bo13bo2bo$2b5o4bo10bobo17b2o$bo4bo
b3o12bo4b2o6bo5b3o$bob2obobo6b2o11bobo4bobo3bo2bo$2obo2bo6b4o13bo5b2o
3b3o$bobobobo5b2o2bo8bo3b2o$bobob2obo2bo7b3o5bo8b2o3b3o$2ob2o2b2o3b4o
9b3o7bobo3bo2bo$3bo2b3o2bo2b2o3bobo14bo5b3o$3bobob2o5bo5bo21b2o$2b2obo
2b2obo2bo24bo2bo$4bo3b2o2bo2bo16bo7b2o$4bobo7bo18bo$3b2ob2o10b3o10b3o$
16b7o$9b2o2bo2b2obob2o2bo2b2o$9bo4b4o3b4o4bo$10b4o11b4o$14b2o7b2o$10b
5obo2bo2bob5o$9bo6b7o6bo$10b3obo9bob3o$12b2obob2ob2obob2o$14b2obo3bob
2o19bo$14bo2bo3bo2bo20bo$15b2o5b2o19b3o!
Tanner Jacobi
Re: Soup search results
It works in 16 rules:
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B38/S02378
4bo$2b2obo$2bo3bo$o5bo$o5bo2bo$o7bobo$2b4o2b2o2$2b4o2b2o$o7bobo$o5bo2b
o$o5bo$2bo3bo$2b2obo$4bo!
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Re: Soup search results
Awesome! Rich's p16, then?codeholic wrote:Rich Holmes discovered a new p16 using apgsearch
Object: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0ck8/b3s23
Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... c55d8d4edc
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Re: Soup search results
Whoa, congrats!! I think the searcher for the new p15 should be known as well?
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Re: Soup search results
Stubby LifeWiki article: Rich's p16.Apple Bottom wrote:Awesome! Rich's p16, then?
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Re: Soup search results
Heh. "Rich Holmes discovered"? I was asleep when apgsearch found this and woke up to find it'd been logged, tweeted, retweeted, reported here, used to make a smaller gun, deemed awesome, and written up on the wiki.
Re: Soup search results
Still your discovery. Unless you want it to be named something else.
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