Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by velcrorex » December 17th, 2016, 9:01 pm

Here's a p7 spark which can also rephase a blinker. I think this is new; apologies if it isn't.

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x = 41, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
18bobo2bo13bobo$17bob5o2b2o2b2ob2obob2o$b3o13bo8bobo2bob2obo$14b2obob
2ob4o2b2o6bo$14bobobobobo2bobo2b7ob2o$16bo3bo2bobob2obo7bo$4b2o8bo4b2o
b4obo2b2o3b2obo$4o2bo7b2obobo5bob2o4b2o2bob2o$3ob2obob4obo5b5obo6bobob
obo$5bobobo2bobob4o4bobob4obobobo2bo$5bobob2obob2o4b2o4b2o4bob2obob2o$
4b2o2bo2bobo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo5bo$3bo2bobo2bo2bob2o5bo2bob2o3bob2obo$3b
2o2bo4b2o10b2o6b2obobo5$18bobo2bo13bobo$17bob5o2b2o2b2ob2obob2o$17bo8b
obo2bob2obo$14b2obob2ob4o2b2o6bo$14bobobobobo2bobo2b7ob2o$16bo3bo2bobo
b2obo7bo$4b2o8bo4b2ob4obo2b2o3b2obo$4o2bo7b2obobo5bob2o4b2o2bob2o$3ob
2obob4obo5b5obo6bobobobo$5bobobo2bobob4o4bobob4obobobo2bo$5bobob2obob
2o4b2o4b2o4bob2obob2o$4b2o2bo2bobo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo5bo$3bo2bobo2bo2bob
2o5bo2bob2o3bob2obo$3b2o2bo4b2o10b2o6b2obobo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 18th, 2016, 1:01 am

velcrorex wrote:Here's a p7 spark which can also rephase a blinker. I think this is new; apologies if it isn't.
Hmm, I've never seen it before! Nice sparker, and I think it may complement the pipsquirter :)
Edit: I just realized there's a completely different one that works similarly to yours in jslife:

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x = 23, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo2$6bo$9bo3bo$7bo2bobo2bo$6b3obobob3o$6bobobobobobo$6b2o2bobo
2b2o2$2b3o3bo5bo3b3o$b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$2b2o2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b2o$o7bo5bo7b
o$b4o3bo5bo3b4o2$b4o3bo5bo3b4o$o7bo5bo7bo$2b2o2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b2o$b2obo
3bo5bo3bob2o$2b3o3bo5bo3b3o2$6b2o2bobo2b2o$6bobobobobobo$6b3obobob3o$
7bo2bobo2bo$9bo3bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by rahul25 » December 18th, 2016, 1:12 am

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
$b2obo$bo3b2o$2bo$4bo$2bo$bo3b2o$b2obo!



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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by drc » December 18th, 2016, 1:34 am

rahul25 wrote:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
$b2obo$bo3b2o$2bo$4bo$2bo$bo3b2o$b2obo!


Please, please, PLEASE, PPLLEEAASSEE check jslife for rotors before you post something.

Plus p2 oscillators aren't of interest at this point.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by PHPBB12345 » December 18th, 2016, 1:55 am

Scorbie wrote:Edit2: Here's a weak p14 sparker as a bonus:

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x = 26, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
12b2ob4ob2o$11bob8obo$11bobobo2bobobo$9b3obo2b2o2bob3o$8bo4bo2b2o2bo4b
o$9b3obo6bob3o$11bob2o4b2obo$12b10o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo$11bo3bo2bo3bo$9b3o
3bo2bo3b3o$8bo5bo4bo5bo$9b3o3bo2bo3b3o$11bo3bo2bo3bo$15bo2bo$15bo2bo$
12b10o$11bob2o4b2obo$9b3obo6bob3o$8bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$9b3obo2b2o2bob3o$
11bobobo2bobobo$11bob8obo$12b2ob4ob2o2$2b2o5b2o$2b2o5b2o$14b3o$16b3o$
2bo7bo3b3o$2b2o5b2o$2b2obobob2o$bo2b2ob2o2bo$ob2obobob2obo$bobobobobob
o$4bo3bo!

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x = 274, y = 286, rule = B3/S23
12b2ob4ob2o$11bob8obo$11bobobo2bobobo$9b3obo2b2o2bob3o$8bo4bo2b2o2bo4b
o$9b3obo6bob3o$11bob2o4b2obo$12b10o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo$11bo3bo2bo3bo$9b3o
3bo2bo3b3o$8bo5bo4bo5bo$9b3o3bo2bo3b3o$11bo3bo2bo3bo$15bo2bo$15bo2bo$
12b10o$11bob2o4b2obo$9b3obo6bob3o$8bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$9b3obo2b2o2bob3o$
11bobobo2bobobo$11bob8obo$12b2ob4ob2o$27b2o$2b2o5b2o16b2o$2b2o5b2o$14b
3o$16b3o2b2o4b2o$2bo7bo3b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo$2b2o5b2o9bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$2b2obo
bob2o10b2o4b2o2bo2bo$bo2b2ob2o2bo23bo$ob2obobob2obo17bo4bo$bobobobobob
o9b2o13bo$4bo3bo12b2o8bo3bo$33b2o$29b2o$28bo3bo8b2o$27bo13b2o$28bo4bo$
28bo$29bo2bo2b2o4b2o$30bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$34bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$35b2o4b2o2bo2bo
$49bo$44bo4bo$35b2o13bo$35b2o8bo3bo$47b2o$43b2o$42bo3bo8b2o$41bo13b2o$
42bo4bo$42bo$43bo2bo2b2o4b2o$44bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$48bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$49b2o4b
2o2bo2bo$63bo$58bo4bo$49b2o13bo$49b2o8bo3bo$61b2o$57b2o$56bo3bo8b2o$
55bo13b2o$56bo4bo$56bo$57bo2bo2b2o4b2o$58bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$62bo2bo2bo2bo
3bo$63b2o4b2o2bo2bo$77bo$72bo4bo$63b2o13bo$63b2o8bo3bo$75b2o$71b2o$70b
o3bo8b2o$69bo13b2o$70bo4bo$70bo$71bo2bo2b2o4b2o$72bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$76bo
2bo2bo2bo3bo$77b2o4b2o2bo2bo$91bo$86bo4bo$77b2o13bo$77b2o8bo3bo$89b2o$
85b2o$84bo3bo8b2o$83bo13b2o$84bo4bo$84bo$85bo2bo2b2o4b2o$86bo3bo2bo2bo
2bo$90bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$91b2o4b2o2bo2bo$105bo$100bo4bo$91b2o13bo$91b2o8bo
3bo$103b2o$99b2o$98bo3bo8b2o$97bo13b2o$98bo4bo$98bo$99bo2bo2b2o4b2o$
100bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$104bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$105b2o4b2o2bo2bo$119bo$114bo4bo$
105b2o13bo$105b2o8bo3bo$117b2o$113b2o$112bo3bo8b2o$111bo13b2o$112bo4bo
$112bo$113bo2bo2b2o4b2o$114bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$118bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$119b2o4b2o
2bo2bo$133bo$128bo4bo$119b2o13bo$119b2o8bo3bo$131b2o$127b2o$126bo3bo8b
2o$125bo13b2o$126bo4bo$126bo$127bo2bo2b2o4b2o$128bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$132bo
2bo2bo2bo3bo$133b2o4b2o2bo2bo$147bo$142bo4bo$133b2o13bo$133b2o8bo3bo$
145b2o$141b2o$140bo3bo8b2o$139bo13b2o$140bo4bo$140bo$141bo2bo2b2o4b2o$
142bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$146bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$147b2o4b2o2bo2bo$161bo$156bo4bo$
147b2o13bo$147b2o8bo3bo$159b2o$155b2o$154bo3bo8b2o$153bo13b2o$154bo4bo
$154bo$155bo2bo2b2o4b2o$156bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$160bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$161b2o4b2o
2bo2bo$175bo$170bo4bo$161b2o13bo$161b2o8bo3bo$173b2o$169b2o$168bo3bo8b
2o$167bo13b2o$168bo4bo$168bo$169bo2bo2b2o4b2o$170bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$174bo
2bo2bo2bo3bo$175b2o4b2o2bo2bo$189bo$184bo4bo$175b2o13bo$175b2o8bo3bo$
187b2o$183b2o$182bo3bo8b2o$181bo13b2o$182bo4bo$182bo$183bo2bo2b2o4b2o$
184bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$188bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$189b2o4b2o2bo2bo$203bo$198bo4bo$
189b2o13bo$189b2o8bo3bo$201b2o$197b2o$196bo3bo8b2o$195bo13b2o$196bo4bo
$196bo$197bo2bo2b2o4b2o$198bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$202bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$203b2o4b2o
2bo2bo$217bo$212bo4bo$203b2o13bo$203b2o8bo3bo$215b2o$211b2o$210bo3bo8b
2o$209bo13b2o$210bo4bo$210bo$211bo2bo2b2o4b2o$212bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$216bo
2bo2bo2bo3bo$217b2o4b2o2bo2bo$231bo$226bo4bo$217b2o13bo$217b2o8bo3bo$
229b2o$225b2o$224bo3bo8b2o$223bo13b2o$224bo4bo$224bo$225bo2bo2b2o4b2o$
226bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$230bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$231b2o4b2o2bo2bo$245bo$240bo4bo$
231b2o13bo$231b2o8bo3bo$243b2o$239b2o$238bo3bo8b2o12bo3bo$237bo13b2o9b
obobobobobo$238bo4bo17bob2obobob2obo$238bo23bo2b2ob2o2bo$239bo2bo2b2o
4b2o10b2obobob2o$240bo3bo2bo2bo2bo9b2o5b2o$244bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o3bo7bo$
245b2o4b2o2b3o$257b3o$263b2o5b2o$245b2o16b2o5b2o$245b2o$252b2ob4ob2o$
251bob8obo$251bobobo2bobobo$249b3obo2b2o2bob3o$248bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$249b
3obo6bob3o$251bob2o4b2obo$252b10o$255bo2bo$255bo2bo$251bo3bo2bo3bo$
249b3o3bo2bo3b3o$248bo5bo4bo5bo$249b3o3bo2bo3b3o$251bo3bo2bo3bo$255bo
2bo$255bo2bo$252b10o$251bob2o4b2obo$249b3obo6bob3o$248bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$
249b3obo2b2o2bob3o$251bobobo2bobobo$251bob8obo$252b2ob4ob2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 18th, 2016, 2:29 am

@PHPBB12345 yeah, I posted that yesterday.
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Saka » December 19th, 2016, 6:20 am

(Sorry)
Ok, I compiled dr but I need some help in learning how to use it.
Here's the input, I have no idea where I got this... please someone break it down? My copy of the dr documentation is very messy for some reason.

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c50
h15
w15
rot90symm
v127 1
d2 36 36 44 44
r36 36
444344o.4
....o.o.4
oooo.oo.4
4.o...o.3
4o.....o4
3.o...o.4
4.oo.oooo
4.o.o....
4.o443444!
d0 37 36 37 39
d0 38 36 38 38
d0 p39 37
skipstable
skipfizzle
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
(Check gen 2)

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 20th, 2016, 12:13 am

Saka wrote:My copy of the dr documentation is very messy for some reason.
Hmm... If you have your files named something like dr.documentation.txt, then you probably got one from mine...
I don't remember the details, and I recommend you to read the docs. They aren't there for no reason and it does help.
Here are the cell notations AFAIK.
Stable background state / state modified for searching
. OFF / OFF
o ON / ON
0 ON / OFF
1 OFF / ON
? UNKNOWN / UNKNOWN
(Below: modified by sokwe)
2, 3, 4 cells are the same as 0 1 ? (I am not sure) but makes the program to not check the stability for that cell.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by dvgrn » December 20th, 2016, 5:17 pm

Saka wrote:My copy of the dr documentation is very messy for some reason.
I haven't gone back and looked at dr documentation, so this is just a quick crackpot theory: are you opening a .txt file using Windows Notepad, by any chance? Unix-style line endings aren't supported by the old standard Notepad, so everything ends up on one line.

Most other text editors are halfway decent and can handle Windows, Linux, or Mac line separator characters.

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 20th, 2016, 7:17 pm

dvgrn wrote:
Saka wrote:My copy of the dr documentation is very messy for some reason.
I haven't gone back and looked at dr documentation, so this is just a quick crackpot theory: are you opening a .txt file using Windows Notepad, by any chance? Unix-style line endings aren't supported by the old standard Notepad, so everything ends up on one line.

Most other text editors are halfway decent and can handle Windows, Linux, or Mac line separator characters.
@Saka You can use wordpad (which exists on every Windows machine out of the box) if you are in this situation.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 20th, 2016, 9:07 pm

Here's a p6 by phaseshifting a p5, but unfortunately it doesn't work in other applications it can be used...

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
15bo$14bobo$14bobo$7b2ob2ob2obob2obo$8bobo3bobobob2o$3b2o2bo3b4obo$4bo
3b3o3bo2bo$3bo7b2o3b2o3bobo$3b2o5bo9bob2o$6b2o2b4o6bo$b5obo7bob2obob2o
$o9b2o2b2obobobobo$b6o4bo5bobobo$3bobo3bo7bo3bobo$5bobobo5bo4b6o$3bobo
bobob2o2b2o9bo$3b2obob2obo7bob5o$6bo6b4o2b2o$3b2obo9bo5b2o$3bobo3b2o3b
2o7bo$9bo2bo3b3o3bo$10bob4o3bo2b2o$5b2obobobo3bobo$5bob2obob2ob2ob2o$
10bobo$10bobo$11bo!
Edit: And here's a p12:

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
10bobo$9bob2o$9bo3b2o$7b2ob2o3bo$8bobo2b2obo$8bo2bo4bo$6bob2obobo2b2o$
4b3o2bobob3o4bo$3bo3bobobo5b4o$2bobo2bobobob5o3b2o$2bobob2obo9b2o2bo$
2o12b5obobo$bobob5o12b2o$o2b2o9bob2obobo$b2o3b5obobobo2bobo$3b4o5bobob
o3bo$3bo4b3obobo2b3o$6b2o2bobob2obo$7bo4bo2bo$7bob2o2bobo$8bo3b2ob2o$
9b2o3bo$11b2obo$11bobo!
The agar that led me to find these:

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x = 89, y = 89, rule = B3/S23:T89,89
3bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo$2bo6b3o2b2obobo
bo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo$2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b
2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o$o9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o
2b2obobo$b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo$5bobobo
b2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bo
bobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo$3bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo
5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$2bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobo
bo$bo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bo$bob2o2b3o6bo
5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobo$bobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o
6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2o$bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobo
bob2o2b3o6bo$o9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo$6b3o
2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo$2o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo
5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2bo$7bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o
2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$2o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo
5bobo2b2o$2bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$o2b2o
bobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b2o$o5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo
6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo
5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo$4bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o
2bobo$2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobo$obo9bo5bo
9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obo$o2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobo
bo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bo$7bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b
2obobobo9bo5bo$3b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo$
5bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$4bo5bo9bobobob
2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9b
obobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o$bobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo
9bo5bo9bo$2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o$3bobo2b
4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo$2bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5b
obo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo$bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o
6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo$b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob
2o$9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$4o2bobo5bo6b
3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo$4bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bo
bo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o
2bobo5bo$2bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$bo5bo
9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$o5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo
5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bo$ob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2ob
obobo9bo5bo9bobo$obobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2o
$obo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo$9bobobob2o2b3o6b
o5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$5b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o
2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo$o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bob
obob2o2b2o$6bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$o2bo
bo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b3o$bobobob2o2b3o6bo5b
obo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo
5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o$5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o
2b3o6bo$4bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo$3bo6b3o
2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo$o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo
5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobobo$bo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bo
bo5bo6b3o2b2obobo$2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bo
bo$6bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$2b3o2b2obobo
bo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo$4bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b
2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$3bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo
6b3o2b2obobobo$obo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o$ob
ob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bo$obobobo9bo5bo9bobo
bob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2bo$2bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9b
o5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo$bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobo
bo9bo$o6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo$3o6bo5bobo
2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o$8bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bob
o2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$3o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b
3o6bo5bobo2bo$3bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$
2o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6bo$bo5bobo2b4o2bo
bo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$o5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o
2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b
4o2bobo$b2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobo$bobo9bo
5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obo$bo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2o
bobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bo$8bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b
3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo$4b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo
5bo$6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o$5bo5bo9bobo
bob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo$2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo
5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o$obobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2o
bobobo9bo5bo$b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo5bobo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o$4bo
bo2b4o2bobo5bo6b3o2b2obobobo9bo5bo9bobobob2o2b3o6bo!
I'm quite surprised to see that the p12 stabilization is much smaller. It looks pretty possible to stabilize the whole agar if you surround the p12s at the outside.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by A for awesome » January 8th, 2017, 10:36 pm

This 26-bit p3 isn't listed on pentadecathlon.com. Is it known?

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
6bo$4b3o$3bo$3bobobo$2o6b2obo$2bob2o6b2o$6bobobo$10bo$7b3o$7bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by BlinkerSpawn » February 21st, 2017, 1:07 am

rahul25 wrote:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
$3b2o$2bobo$bo$b2o2bo$4b2o!

I'm trying to make p2 , but it seems impossible, anyone would like to help ?
WLS can find a way.
It's pretty ugly though, even after manual reduction.

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x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
12b3o$16b2o$9bob3o3bo$5b2obo3b2ob3o2bo$4bobobo2bo2bo2b4o$3bo4b2obo2bo$
3b2o2bobo2b2ob2o2b2o$6b2ob2obo2b2obo2bo$3b3o3bo2bobobo2b2o$2bo2b4o2bo
2bo2bobo$7bo4b2o3bo2bo$2bob2o3bo4b3o2b2o$ob2o2b3obo3bo$ob2o2bo3bo$o3b
2o2b2ob2o$3bo2b2o3bo$bobo2b3o2bo$b4o4b2o$4bo2bo$4bobob2obo$3b2obobob2o
$7bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Kazyan » February 21st, 2017, 3:03 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:WLS can find a way.
It's pretty ugly though, even after manual reduction.

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x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
12b3o$16b2o$9bob3o3bo$5b2obo3b2ob3o2bo$4bobobo2bo2bo2b4o$3bo4b2obo2bo$
3b2o2bobo2b2ob2o2b2o$6b2ob2obo2b2obo2bo$3b3o3bo2bobobo2b2o$2bo2b4o2bo
2bo2bobo$7bo4b2o3bo2bo$2bob2o3bo4b3o2b2o$ob2o2b3obo3bo$ob2o2bo3bo$o3b
2o2b2ob2o$3bo2b2o3bo$bobo2b3o2bo$b4o4b2o$4bo2bo$4bobob2obo$3b2obobob2o
$7bo!

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A$7.A2.A$7.A2.A$5.2C4.2A$4.C.C.2A.A$3.C4.2A.A$3.2C2.C2.A$.2A3.2C2.
A.A$A3.2A5.2A$A3.2A$.2A3.2A$3.3A2.A$3.A3.2A!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Saka » February 21st, 2017, 3:36 am

Is this known?

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3bo2bob2o$3bo2bobo$2obo2bobo$2o6b2o$3b4o$4b3ob2o$8bo$8bobo$9b2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by BlinkerSpawn » February 21st, 2017, 8:23 am

Reduced:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3bo2bob2o$3bo2bobo$2obo2bobo$2o6b2o$3b4obo$4b3o2bo$8b2o!
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Post by 83bismuth38 » March 3rd, 2017, 10:04 pm

If your familiar with winlifesearch, I set it to a 20x20 grid and set the oscillator period to 19. approx 2 billion calculations so far and from what I can tell, it's nowhere close yet. wish me luck, at this rate, it will last a good day or so. :lol:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Saka » March 3rd, 2017, 10:56 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:If your familiar with winlifesearch, I set it to a 20x20 grid and set the oscillator period to 19. approx 2 billion calculations so far and from what I can tell, it's nowhere close yet. wish me luck, at this rate, it will last a good day or so. :lol:
I doubt it will only take a day. I spent a week or so just trying to find this 2c/5 spaceship with normal WLS.

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x = 33, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
11bo9bo$11bo7b3o5b3o$7b2obo8bo5b2o$8bob2o6bo2bob2obob2o$4b2obo5bo4b2o
2bobobo$b4o4b2ob4o3b4ob2o2b2o$2ob3o4b2o6bo2bo2bo4bo$b2o9b3obo4b3o8bo$
14b2ob3ob2obo6b2o$23bo6bo$14b2ob3ob2obo6b2o$b2o9b3obo4b3o8bo$2ob3o4b2o
6bo2bo2bo4bo$b4o4b2ob4o3b4ob2o2b2o$4b2obo5bo4b2o2bobobo$8bob2o6bo2bob
2obob2o$7b2obo8bo5b2o$11bo7b3o5b3o$11bo9bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by dvgrn » March 4th, 2017, 12:11 am

Saka wrote:
83bismuth38 wrote:If your familiar with winlifesearch, I set it to a 20x20 grid and set the oscillator period to 19. approx 2 billion calculations so far and from what I can tell, it's nowhere close yet. wish me luck, at this rate, it will last a good day or so. :lol:
I doubt it will only take a day. I spent a week or so just trying to find this 2c/5 spaceship with normal WLS...
Well, 33x19 divided by two (due to the symmetry) is almost as big as 20x20 -- but 2c/5 is period 5, so the period 19 search really has to look through four times as many unknown bits.

That doesn't mean that the 20x20 search will take just four times as long, though -- as you add more unknown cells, searches take exponentially longer. Unless you get really incredibly lucky, this search will still be going in a trillion trillion trillion years (assuming you have AC power for that long).

Let's say for every two unknown cells you add, the search takes twice as long. I don't know if that's anywhere near right, it depends on the rule and on the search algorithm to some extent, but it's something like that -- a good enough guess for this purpose, as you'll see. The general idea is, WLS has to try pretty much the whole previous search twice, once with the first new unknown cell ON and once with it OFF -- and maybe the other unknown cell is forced either ON or OFF by the search conditions.

-- Okay, so 33x19x5 generations divided by two is a bit over 1500 unknown cells. By Saka's testimony, it takes more than a week to search that. Let's be really optimistic and say that's a ten-day search.

This 20x20x19 search is 7600 unknown cells -- about five times as many. But the five-times statistic doesn't even matter! What matters is that it's about 7600 - 1500 = about 6000 cells more.

The guess above was that for every two cells you add, the total search time doubles. Three thousand doublings, 2^3000, times ten days, is... kind of a big number. I think it's 904 digits long, or say an even 900 digits if you count in centuries. That's so big that a trillion trillion trillion doesn't even begin to describe it.

So it doesn't really matter if the search time only doubles with every three cells you add, or every ten -- you still have way too many unknown cells in that search. You'd only get a result if period-19 oscillators are really really common, so that WLS runs into one pretty much everywhere it looks -- and we kind of know from Catagolue soup searches that that isn't the case.

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by Gamedziner » March 4th, 2017, 7:50 am

dvgrn wrote:I think it's 904 digits long
According to Bing, it is 903 digits long.

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by dvgrn » March 4th, 2017, 8:50 am

Gamedziner wrote:
dvgrn wrote:I think it's 904 digits long
According to Bing, it is 903 digits long.
Did you include the multiplication by 10? It's 2^(6000/2) times however long the 1500-unknown-cell search takes.

When a time estimate is over 900 digits long, though, it's probably just time to try a different search -- seeing as a time estimate with only a six-digit number of days would still be comfortably longer than anyone's likely lifespan.

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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by velcrorex » March 4th, 2017, 7:12 pm

Adding to what others have already said: It's often best to do a small search first, to both know how long that takes and rule out small patterns. Then do a slightly larger search. This way, you don't miss any smaller pattern that you could find more quickly, and you don't start a search that will not finish in your lifetime or the lifetime of our galaxy.
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by muzik » March 5th, 2017, 8:15 am

Built by hand and absolutely terrible:

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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$bo2bo2bo$2b5o2$9o$o3bo3bo$b2o3b2o$3b3o$b2o3b2o$o2b2o3bo$o2b2o
3bo$b2o3b2o$3b3o$b2o3b2o$o3bo3bo$9o2$2b5o$bo2bo2bo$b2o3b2o!
manually reduced:

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo$b2o3b2o$3b3o$b2o3b2o$o2b2o3bo$o2b2o3bo$b2o3b2o$3b3o$
b2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo$b2o3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discoveries Thread

Post by BlinkerSpawn » March 5th, 2017, 9:00 am

muzik wrote:Built by hand...
Reduced further, even smaller than the variant from DRH-oscillators.rle (!):

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3bo3b2o$3b3o2bo$b2o3b2o$o2b2o$o2b2o$b2o3b2o$3b3o2bo$3bo3b2o!
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Post by 83bismuth38 » March 5th, 2017, 1:38 pm

I did do small searches first. well, smallER... 54 billion calculations so far. should I stop? i'm gonna say yes.

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!
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