Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Hunting » February 11th, 2020, 5:53 am

JP21 wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 4:01 am
Freywa wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 1:44 am
The new p16 is interesting in that it combines a caterer-like spark and a thumb spark into one:

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x = 25, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
2.C14.D$.BA2B11.BA2B$.2BA2BA9.ABA3B$DBA2BABA7.C2BA4B$.2B5AB7.7BA$.2B
2A5B6.A4BABAB$.2BAB3A2B6.B2ABA3BA$.4BAB2A7.BA2BAB2A$2BA5B7.2BAB2A2B$.
BA4B9.2A4B$.BA2B11.4B$2.B14.B!
As to whether it will have any use like a Rich's p16, that remains to be seen.
JP21 wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 7:13 pm
Ian07 wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 5:17 pm

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to reduce any other low periods using this, as the spark is too close to avoid destroying the oscillator. p240 can be easily done using a pentadecathlon, but it looks like the p48, p80, p96, and p144 pages won't need updating unless I'm missing something. Either way, massive congrats to Rob Liston!
You are definitely missing something.

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x = 49, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
39bo$38bobo$39bo$34bo$32bob2obob2o$32bob4o2$35b3o$7bo28b5o$6bobo30bo$
7bo8b2o$2bo9b3o2bo11b2o16b2o$ob2obob2o6b2o13bo7b2o7bo$ob4o5bo18bobo3bo
4bo3bobo$11bo19b2o2bo6bo2b2o$3b3o9b2o17bo8bo$4b5o3b3o2bo16bo8bo$7bo8b
2o16bo8bo$31b2o2bo6bo2b2o$30bobo3bo4bo3bobo$30bo7b2o7bo$29b2o16b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » February 11th, 2020, 7:12 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 4:49 am
I guess this counts as a new P48:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$11bo2b2o$10bo4bo$10bo4bo$15bo$9b2obobo$9b2ob2o$2b2o$4bob2o6b3o$o
2bo2b2o$obo$bo2$b2o$b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » February 11th, 2020, 10:26 am

b3s23/C4_4 contains an xp10 entry, where the only object with one occurence is

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
bo$b3o8b2o$4bo4bo2bo$7b3o2bo$2b5o2bobo$3bo2bo2bo$3bo4b2o$4b2o4bo$4bo2bo2bo$2b
obo2b5o$bo2b3o$bo2bo4bo$2o8b3o$12bo!
#C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 3 AUTOSTART GPS 8 ]]
Any synthesis?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 11th, 2020, 10:27 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 10:26 am
b3s23/C4_4 contains an xp10 entry, where the only object with one occurence is

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
bo$b3o8b2o$4bo4bo2bo$7b3o2bo$2b5o2bobo$3bo2bo2bo$3bo4b2o$4b2o4bo$4bo2bo2bo$2b
obo2b5o$bo2b3o$bo2bo4bo$2o8b3o$12bo!
#C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 3 ]]
Any synthesis?
It looks cool but nothing too special.
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Moosey » February 11th, 2020, 4:05 pm

Um, JP21...
Generally new high-period oscs are something special, since they're nontrivial.
Particularly seminatural ones
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hkoenig » February 11th, 2020, 4:12 pm

The oscillator is known, found by Merzenich years ago. My records for large oscillators aren't organized enough to say if a construction is known. A quick search didn't find one.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Extrementhusiast » February 12th, 2020, 3:35 pm

dr turned up this P10 and P20, among a few other less-useful finds:

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x = 55, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
7b2o38b2o$7b2o38b2o2$7b4o36b4o$6bo4bo34bo4bo$6bob2obo25b2o7bob2obo$7bo
bobob2o21bo2bo2b2o3bobobob2o$8b2obob2o22b2o2bobo4b2obob2o$o8bobo27b2o
8bobo$3o7b2o27bo10b2o$3bo32b2obo2bo$2b2o3b2o4bo22bo2bobobobob2o$6bobo
3bobo23b2obobob2obo$6bo5bob3o24bobo$o2bob2o4b2o4bo23bob5o2b2o$4obo7bob
2o25bo4bo3bo$5bo5b3obo27b4o3bo$2b2obob2obo4bo33bo$2bob2obob2ob3o30b5ob
o$6bo4b2o32bo4bobo$6bob2o37bo2bobo$7b2ob3o33b2o3bo$12bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Layz Boi » February 12th, 2020, 4:10 pm

Kazyan wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:29 pm
A for Awesome noticed that rliston's G1 searching turned up something new today: this new p16 oscillator.

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 8 ]]
x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$2bo2b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$6bo$2obobo$2ob2o2$5b3o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 12th, 2020, 6:59 pm

Layz Boi wrote:
February 12th, 2020, 4:10 pm
Kazyan wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:29 pm
A for Awesome noticed that rliston's G1 searching turned up something new today: this new p16 oscillator.

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 8 ]]
x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$2bo2b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$6bo$2obobo$2ob2o2$5b3o!
Nominated CGOL pattern of the year!
Congrats to the new p16 oscillator and your 69th post!
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » February 14th, 2020, 1:34 pm

new?

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
9bo10bo$8bobo2b2o4bobo$8bobo3bo4bobo$6b2obob3o4b2o2b2o$5bobobobo4bo3bo
bo$4bo2bobo6bob3o2bo$3bo3bobo11bobo$3b4o2b3o5bob2obo$b2o6b2o3bo2bo2bo$
o2b6obobobo2bo2bo$b2o4b3o2bo4bob2obo$3b2o2bo13bobo$3bo5b2o5bob3o2bo$bo
bo12bo3bobo$b2o5b2o8b2o2b2o$19bobo$4b2o6b2o5bobo$7b4o9bo$3bobo6bobo$b
3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$3bob2o4b2ob
o!
My favourite oscillator of all time

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
7bo2$3b2o5b2o$b2o4bo4b2o$5b2ob2o$bobo7bobo$bo2bobobobo2bo$5obobob5o$o
4bo3bo4bo$b3obobobob3o$3bob2obo2bo$8bobo$8b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 14th, 2020, 10:12 pm

Gustone wrote:
February 14th, 2020, 1:34 pm
new?

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
9bo10bo$8bobo2b2o4bobo$8bobo3bo4bobo$6b2obob3o4b2o2b2o$5bobobobo4bo3bo
bo$4bo2bobo6bob3o2bo$3bo3bobo11bobo$3b4o2b3o5bob2obo$b2o6b2o3bo2bo2bo$
o2b6obobobo2bo2bo$b2o4b3o2bo4bob2obo$3b2o2bo13bobo$3bo5b2o5bob3o2bo$bo
bo12bo3bobo$b2o5b2o8b2o2b2o$19bobo$4b2o6b2o5bobo$7b4o9bo$3bobo6bobo$b
3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$3bob2o4b2ob
o!
It's not a new period but I think it's a new P72 oscillator type.
Edit: Oh, you also changed the period of the p20 oscillator.
Edit 2: I think it should be on wiki.
Last edited by JP21 on March 4th, 2020, 5:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 17th, 2020, 5:14 am

Is there any period 7 domino sparker? (NOT THE PIPSQUIRTER)
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wildmyron » February 17th, 2020, 11:22 am

JP21 wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 5:14 am
Is there any period 7 domino sparker? (NOT THE PIPSQUIRTER)
See row C in the pattern at the end of this post: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 764#p64764
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 17th, 2020, 7:20 pm

wildmyron wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 11:22 am
JP21 wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 5:14 am
Is there any period 7 domino sparker? (NOT THE PIPSQUIRTER)
See row C in the pattern at the end of this post: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 764#p64764
Well, those are the most lowest clearance ones I have ever seen in a day.
At least 3/4 of them cam support a head:

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x = 92, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
8b3o33b3o32b3o$8b3o33b3o32b3o$9bo35bo34bo2$8b2o34b2o33b2o$4b2o6b2o28b
6o22bo6b6o6b2o$3bo10bo26b8o20bobo4b8o4bo2bo$3bobo6bobo25bo8bo19bobo3bo
8bo3bob2o$b3obobo2bobob3o20bob2o8b2obo15b2ob2ob2o8b2ob2obo$o4b2ob2ob2o
4bo18bob2ob8ob2obo14bo4b2ob8ob2o4bo$b3obo6bob3o15b2obo2bo3b6o3bo2bob2o
11bobobo3b6o3bobob2o$3bo4b2o4bo18bobob2o5b2o5b2obobo9b3o4bo5b2o5bo$4bo
3b2o3bo18bo2bo18bo2bo7bo3b3o16b4o$5bo6bo19bobo2bo14bo2b3o8bobo2bobo12b
obo2bo$6b6o19b2ob3o16b2o10b2ob2o2b2o11bobo2bo$3bo2b6o2bo17bo4b2o6bo5b
2o2bo29bo2b2o$b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o15bob2o4bo3bobo2bo4b2o28b2o$o5b2o2b2o5bo
15bobobobobobobo2bobobobo$b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o19b2obob2o2bob2o2b2o2bo$3bo2b
6o2bo23bobo4bo2bo5b2o$6b6o26bobo5b2o$5bo6bo26bo$4bo3b2o3bo$3bo4b2o4bo$
b3obo6bob3o$o4b2ob2ob2o4bo$b3obobo2bobob3o$3bobo6bobo$3bo10bo$4b2o6b2o
$8b2o2$9bo$8b3o$8b3o!
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 18th, 2020, 12:29 am

wildmyron wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 11:22 am
JP21 wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 5:14 am
Is there any period 7 domino sparker? (NOT THE PIPSQUIRTER)
See row C in the pattern at the end of this post: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 764#p64764
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 21st, 2020, 6:03 am

Does this have a name:

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$2obob2obo$bobo3bobo$bobo4b2o$2ob2o$bobo4b2o$bobo3bobo$2obob2obo$4b
o!
It has a tiny spark:

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4b3o2$4b2obo$2obo4bo$bobobo3bo$bobo3b3o$2ob2o$bobo3b3o$bobobo3bo$2obo
4bo$4b2obo2$4b3o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Ian07 » February 21st, 2020, 7:15 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 6:03 am
Does this have a name:

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RLE
Looks to me just like a stator variant of candlefrobra.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by muzik » February 21st, 2020, 12:27 pm

Any hope of hassling this to create a p28?

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o2b2o$2b3o$o2b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » February 22nd, 2020, 6:32 am

muzik wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 12:27 pm
Any hope of hassling this to create a p28?
No; the evolution intrudes into the region where a sparker would have to be applied.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Hunting » February 22nd, 2020, 8:34 am

Freywa wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:32 am
muzik wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 12:27 pm
Any hope of hassling this to create a p28?
No; the evolution intrudes into the region where a sparker would have to be applied.
It would work if we have a super-twodotspark-fountain.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » February 22nd, 2020, 8:39 am

Hunting wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 8:34 am
Freywa wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:32 am
muzik wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 12:27 pm
Any hope of hassling this to create a p28?
No; the evolution intrudes into the region where a sparker would have to be applied.
It would work if we have a super-twodotspark-fountain.
Yeah but it isn't easy to find one.
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by HartmutHolzwart » February 25th, 2020, 7:44 am

AGreason wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 3:14 pm
Scorbie wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 5:46 am
AGreason & WildMyron's agar
A note on attribution - I found the p6 and p8 agars (via SAT solver), and noted
AGreason wrote:both the p6 and this one (the p8 moreso) give the impression of a background with vertically-propagating disturbances, which may be suggestive of a way to make arbitrary even-period phoenix agars
blinkerspawn noticed that those vertically-propagating disturbances were, in fact, behaving according to a XOR rule and the pattern overall was a stripe oscillator XORed with a simple background pattern (Scorbie noted that said background was, in fact, tiled barberpoles), and then a variety of people (myself, blinkerspawn, wildmyron, scorbie, possibly others) have been expanding on that since.
Could someone update the article on phoenixes in Lifewiki accordingly? Can some of these made finite?

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » March 2nd, 2020, 12:30 am

While looking through the D4_+2 census, I noticed this p5 LWSS emulator:

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bo3bo$2bobobobo$bo2bobo2bo$bobobobobo$2obo3bob2o$o2b2ob2o2bo$bo7bo$bo7bo$o2b
2ob2o2bo$2obo3bob2o$bobobobobo$bo2bobo2bo$2bobobobo$3bo3bo!
Does it have any use?
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » March 2nd, 2020, 4:21 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
March 2nd, 2020, 12:30 am
While looking through the D4_+2 census, I noticed this p5 LWSS emulator:

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bo3bo$2bobobobo$bo2bobo2bo$bobobobobo$2obo3bob2o$o2b2ob2o2bo$bo7bo$bo7bo$o2b
2ob2o2bo$2obo3bob2o$bobobobobo$bo2bobo2bo$2bobobobo$3bo3bo!
Does it have any use?
It is just a stator variant of the Toaster

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » March 6th, 2020, 11:06 pm

Where is the newer version??? https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/P55_pre-pulsar_hassler

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x = 43, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
8bo25bo$7bobo23bobo$8bo25bo$13bo15bo$6b5o2b3o11b3o2b5o$5bo4bo5bo9bo5bo
4bo$4bo2bo7b2o9b2o7bo2bo$bo2bob2o27b2obo2bo$obobo5bo21bo5bobobo$bo2bo
4bobo19bobo4bo2bo$4b2o2bo2bo6bo5bo6bo2bo2b2o$9b2o6b3o3b3o6b2o4$9b2o21b
2o$4b2o2bo2bo19bo2bo2b2o$bo2bo4bobo19bobo4bo2bo$obobo5bo21bo5bobobo$bo
2bob2o27b2obo2bo$4bo2bo27bo2bo$5bo4bo3b2o11b2o3bo4bo$6b5o4bo11bo4b5o$
13bobobo7bobobo$8bo3bobob2o7b2obobo3bo$7bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$8bo4b2o
13b2o4bo!

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