Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by iNoMed » July 9th, 2021, 7:52 am

88P25 is no longer the smallest oscillator of its period... Say hello to "83P25", the new smallest period-25 oscillator!

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x = 21, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
18bo$b2o13b3o$o2bo2b2o7bo$b2o2bobo7b2o$3b2o$3bo$2obo9bo$o2bob2o5b2o4b
2o$2b2obo7bo4b2o4$2b2obo7bo$o2bob2o5b2o$2obo9bo$3bo13b2o$3b2o12bobo$b
2o2bobo11bo$o2bo2b2o2b2o7b2o$b2o8bo$5bob4o$5b2obo!
I had discovered this by ripping the eater-pair "14-tick, 3-cell shift" catalyst from 134P25 (While browsing the LifeWiki on a whim) before I somehow decided to replace the entire 14-tick shift mechanism within the 96-cell P5-supported period-25 pre-pulsar shuttle (stabilised by a pair of siamese-bookends to avoid unwanted interactions with a nearby Bellman 1 catalyst) to obtain a 92-cell period-25 oscillator. Replacing the aforementioned siamese-bookends with siamese-snakes helped reduce the minimum population by another two cells. After that, I went and swapped in the block+eater mechanism from the original 96-cell period-25 PPS... and huzzah, a period-25 oscillator with a minimum population of 83 cells!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 9th, 2021, 3:44 pm

I'm now doing sparks on both the top and bottom. Here's a p100 honey farm hassler using four 55P10s:

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x = 39, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
8b2o11b2o$9bo11bo$8bo13bo$8b2o5bo5b2o$11b2obobob2o$6b5obobobobob5o$5bo
4bo3bobo3bo4bo6bo$6b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o6bobo$8bo5bobo5bo8bobo$30b2obob2o
bo$9bo3bo3bo3bo8bo2bobob2o$11bo7bo11bobo$31bo2bo$19b2o12b2o$18bob2o9bo
$31b4o$18bobo14bo$18bobo10b4o$18bobo10bo$18bobob3o8b2o$19b3o9bo2bo$18b
o2bo9bobo$19bo4bo5bo2bobob2o$6bo13bo2bo6b2obob2obo$5bobo12b3o8bobo$5bo
bo8b3o12bobo$ob2obob2o6bo2bo13bo$2obobo2bo5bo4bo$5bobo9bo2bo$4bo2bo9b
3o$4b2o8b3obobo$7bo10bobo$4b4o10bobo$3bo14bobo$4b4o$7bo9b2obo$4b2o12b
2o$4bo2bo$5bobo11bo7bo$2obobo2bo8bo3bo3bo3bo$ob2obob2o$5bobo8bo5bobo5b
o$5bobo6b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o$6bo6bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo$14b5obobobobob5o$19b2o
bobob2o$16b2o5bo5b2o$16bo13bo$17bo11bo$16b2o11b2o!
Unrelated: maybe someone can turn this into a p72 gun?

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x = 223, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
212b2o$15b2o$15b2o197b2o$213bo2bo$114bo99bobo$28b2o83b3o95b2o2bo$27bob
o82bobobo93b3o$13b3o13bo82bo3bo97bo$12bo3bo93b2o5b2o93b3o$11bo5bo88bo
2bo4bo4bo93bo4b2o$11bo5bo88bob3o2bobo2b3o97b2o$11bo5bo91bo4bo4bo$12bo
3bo93b2o5b2o$13b3o96bo3bo103b2o$112b2o100bo6b2o$214b2o4bo$209bo4b2o$
116b2o89b2o6bo$14b3o96bo3bo90b2o$13bo3bo93b2o5b2o$12bo5bo91bo4bo4bo$
12bo5bo90b3o2bobo2b3obo86b2o$12bo5bo91bo4bo4bo2bo86b2o4bo$13bo3bo93b2o
5b2o95b3o$o13b3o96bo3bo97bo$obo110bobobo99b3o$2o112b3o97bo2b2o$115bo
97bobo$213bo2bo$13b2o199b2o$13b2o$216b2o!
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 9th, 2021, 8:52 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 3:44 pm
Here's a p100 honey farm hassler using four 55P10s:
Nice! Two of the p10s can be replaced by p5s here are the smallest forms by population and bounding box that I could find using known components (shown in their respective minimal phases):

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x = 105, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
17b2o3b2o$17b2o3b2o2$80b2o5bo5b2o$13b2o2b3ob3o2b2o52bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$
13bo2bo7bo2bo53b4o2bo2b4o$14bobo7bobo57bo5bo3b3o$15bo4bo4bo6bo48b4o5b
3o4bo$16b3o3b3o6bobo47bo3b5o3b4obo$18bobobo8bobo48bo2bobobo2bo3bobo$
19b3o8b2obob2o44b2o9b2o4b2o$29bo3bobo2bo48bo10bo2bo2bo$30b4o3b2o48bo
11bob4o$31bo2bo64bo$32b3o66b2o$31bo67bo2bo$31b4o64b3o$35bo$19bo11b4o
64b3o$18b2o11bo53b2o12bo2bo$18bo3b3o7b3o50bobo13b2o$22b3o6bo2bo50b3o
11bo$30b4o3b2o46bo2bo10bob4o$29bo3bobo2bo31b2o14b2o10bo2bo2bo$6bo23b2o
bob2o33bo4b2o21b2o$5bobo23bobo37b3o2bo22bobo$5bobo23bobo39bobo22bo2b3o
$2b2obob2o23bo42b2o21b2o4bo$o2bobo3bo60bo2bo2bo10b2o14b2o$2o3b4o61b4ob
o10bo2bo$4bo2bo6b3o58bo11b3o$4b3o7b3o3bo51b2o13bobo$7bo11b2o51bo2bo12b
2o$4b4o11bo53b3o$3bo$4b4o65b3o$7bo64bo2bo$4b3o65b2o$4bo2bo67bo$2o3b4o
61b4obo11bo$o2bobo3bo60bo2bo2bo10bo$2b2obob2o8b3o55b2o4b2o9b2o$5bobo8b
obobo55bobo3bo2bobobo2bo$5bobo6b3o3b3o53bob4o3b5o3bo$6bo6bo4bo4bo53bo
4b3o5b4o$12bobo7bobo53b3o3bo5bo$11bo2bo7bo2bo55b4o2bo2b4o$11b2o2b3ob3o
2b2o54bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$80b2o5bo5b2o2$15b2o3b2o$15b2o3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » July 9th, 2021, 11:16 pm

Might as well just show these reductions:

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x = 79, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
20bo4b2o35bo4b2o8b2o$15b2obo3bobo2bo4bo24b2obo3bobo2bo2b2o4bo$15bo9b3o
3bobo23bo9b3o2bo2b3o$16b2o5b2o6bobo24b2o5b2o6bobo$13b3o2b5o2bo4b2obob
2o18b3o2b5o2bo4b2o$13bo2bo7b2o4bo2bobo2bo16bo2bo7b2o4bo2bo2bo$14b2o15b
obo3b2o17b2o15bob4o$31bo2bo38bo$33b2o40b2o$31bo41bo2bo$31b4o38b3o$35bo
$31b4o38b3o$17b2o12bo27b2o12bo2bo$17bobo13b2o24bobo13b2o$17b3o11bo2bo
24b3o11bo$17bo2bo10bobo3b2o20bo2bo10bob4o$18b2o10bo2bobo2bo5b2o14b2o
10bo2bo2bo$6bo23b2obob2o7bo4b2o21b2o$5bobo23bobo11b3o2bo22bobo$5bobo
23bobo13bobo22bo2b3o$2b2obob2o23bo16b2o21b2o4bo$o2bobo2bo10b2o23bo2bo
2bo10b2o14b2o$2o3bobo10bo2bo22b4obo10bo2bo$4bo2bo11b3o27bo11b3o$4b2o
13bobo24b2o13bobo$7bo12b2o24bo2bo12b2o$4b4o39b3o$3bo$4b4o39b3o$7bo38bo
2bo$4b2o40b2o$4bo2bo41bo$2o3bobo15b2o19b4obo15b2o$o2bobo2bo4b2o7bo2bo
18bo2bo2bo4b2o7bo2bo$2b2obob2o4bo2b5o2b3o23b2o4bo2b5o2b3o$5bobo6b2o5b
2o24bobo6b2o5b2o$5bobo3b3o9bo21b3o2bo2b3o9bo$6bo4bo2bobo3bob2o20bo4b2o
2bo2bobo3bob2o$12b2o4bo25b2o8b2o4bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 10th, 2021, 4:09 pm

One of the self-restoring reactions I found earlier actually works with Berger's p30. Unfortunately, this doesn't multiply the period. There is a period-doubling mechanism with beacons that works no matter how long it takes, but it only works if it's an odd number.

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x = 116, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16b2o75b2o$93b2o5$16b3o$93b3o$16bobo$15b5o73bobo$14b2o3b2o71b5o$
14b2o3b2o70b2o3b2o$91b2o3b2o$23b2o$17bo5b2o78b2o$18b2o83b3o$93bobo9b2o
bo5b2o$11b2o7bo72bo6bo4bo2bo5b2o$10b3o7bo2b2o74bo5b2obo$7bob2o5bo5bo2b
o68bo4bo3b3o$2o5bo2bo8bo3b2o71b2o5b2o$2o5bob2o5b2o$10b3o26b2o54bo$11b
2o26b3o52bobo3b2o$34b2o5b2obo5b2o42bobo3b2o$27b2o3bo8bo2bo5b2o25b2o16b
o$26bo2bo5bo5b2obo31b3o$27b2o2bo7b3o24b2o5bob2o5b2o$31bo7b2o25b2o5bo2b
o8bo3b2o$73bob2o5bo5bo2bo$32b2o42b3o7bo2b2o$27b2o5bo42b2o7bo$27b2o$84b
2o$31b2o3b2o45bo5b2o$31b2o3b2o51b2o$32b5o$33bobo44b2o3b2o$80b2o3b2o$
33b3o45b5o$82bobo2$82b3o3$34b2o$34b2o2$82b2o$82b2o!
p34 partial (The top and bottom just require a single dot; the reason why it's shown the way it is is because it's a generation early.

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x = 23, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$6b7o$8b3o3$9b3o2$8bobobo$8b2ob2o$2bo3b2o5b2o$4bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$4bob
o2bobo2bobo$4bo2bo2bo2bo2bo5bo$6b2o5b2o5b3o$8b2ob2o6bo$8bobobo6b2o$9b
3o2$11b3o$2b2o6bobobo$3bo6b2ob2o$3o5b2o5b2o$o5bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$6bobo2bob
o2bobo$6bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$8b2o5b2o3bo$10b2ob2o$10bobobo2$11b3o3$12b3o$10b
7o$12b3o!
Here's an interesting one. It's a p152 partial. The top/bottom sparks are placed 13 generations after the left/right sparks (or blocks, as I describe below). It creates two Herschels, and the FNGs hit each others' first blocks, creating the honey farms that restart the reaction. 152 = 2×2×2×19. P8 sparkers don't work on the left and right (they do on the top and bottom, but I can't find any good ones). We obviously know of no p19s or p38s. A block does work, but only temporarily. So what I did is use one of the temporary blocks from my p76 pi-heptomino hassler. The problem with this is that it doesn't give enough room for the Herschel to emit its FNG.

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x = 167, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$6b2obo2bo92b2o$7bobob2o88b2obo2bo$7bobobo90bobob2o$6b2obob2o89bo
bo$5bo3bo5bo85b2obob2o$4bob2obo4b2o84bo3bo4b2o$4bobo4b5o53b2o28bob3obo
bo3bo$3b2o2b2o60bobo27bobo5b2obo53b2o$4bobo2bo56b2obobo26b2ob3o3b3o54b
obo$4bob3o3b3o51bobobo28bobo2bo3bo52b2obobo$5bo62bo30bob3o4bo52bobobo$
6bo61b2o30bo7bo23bo30bo$5b2o61b3o30bo60bo2bo$b2o29bob3o13bo17b3o29b2o
31b3o26bo$obo9b2o17b3o3bo10bo2b2o2b2o11b3o25b2o35bobo14bo11bo3bo$obob
2o5bo2bo15bo3bob2o10b2o5b2o11b3o24bobo9b2o6b3o15bobo15b2o9bo3bo$bobobo
5bobo12b2o2b4o7bo6b2o2bo2b2o11b2o25bobob2o5bo2bo4bo3bo10b4obo11bo2bo2b
o9bo$3bo8bo7b2o4b2obo3bo4bo3bob2o4b2o7bo8bo27bobobo5bob3o8bo6b2o3b3o
12bob2o2bo9bo2bo$2b2o11b2o2bo2b2o6bo7b4o2b2o12bobo5bobobo27bo8bob2o7bo
8bobo2bobo8bo7b2obo8bo$b3o11b2o5b2o10b2obo3bo15bo2bo5b2obobo24bo2bo9bo
2b2obo12b3o3b2o6bo8b3obo5bobobo$b3o11b2o2b2o2bo10bo3b3o17b2o9bobo27bo
9bo2bo2bo11bob4o10bo3bo4bo2bo5b2obobo$b3o17bo13b3obo29b2o24bo3bo9b2o
15bobo15b3o6b2o9bobo$b3o61b2o28bo3bo11bo14bobo35b2o$2b2o61bo33bo26b3o
31b2o$3bo62bo29bo2bo60bo$bobobo51b3o3b3obo30bo30bo23bo7bo$obob2o56bo2b
obo28bobobo52bo4b3obo$obo60b2o2b2o26bobob2o52bo3bo2bobo$b2o53b5o4bobo
27bobo54b3o3b3ob2o$56b2o4bob2obo28b2o53bob2o5bobo$56bo5bo3bo83bo3bobob
3obo$59b2obob2o85b2o4bo3bo$60bobobo89b2obob2o$59b2obobo92bobo$59bo2bob
2o88b2obobo$60b2o92bo2bob2o$155b2o50$34bo2$35b3o$35bobo$35bobo$31b4obo
$28b2o3b3o$29bobo2bobo$30b3o3b2o$29bob4o$28bobo$28bobo$28b3o2$31bo!

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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 12th, 2021, 12:16 am

Here's an alternate form of the p25 pre-pulsar shuttle using the original 11-generation push found by Jason Summers with the large sparkers replaced by Elkies' p5:

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x = 16, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
3b2ob2o$4bobobo$4bo2b2o$bob2o6bo$bo3b7o$bob2o2bo$2bobo5b4o$o9bo2bo$bo
2$5bo$2o3b2o6b2o$2o3bo8b2o4$2o3bo8b2o$2o3b2o6b2o$5bo2$bo$o9bo2bo$2bobo
5b4o$bob2o2bo$bo3b7o$bob2o6bo$4bo2b2o$4bobobo$3b2ob2o!
Despite being very compact, the bounding box is still 2 cells larger than iNoMed's variant.
wwei47 wrote:
July 8th, 2021, 12:31 am
Almost half a trillion iterations in, I noticed that this JLS partial has an eater 2-looking thing going on inside of it.

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
4b2o10b2o$4bo2b2ob2ob2o2bo$5b3obo2bob3o2$bo3b4o4b4o3bo$obobo4b4o4bobob
o$b2obob3o4b3obob2o$3bobo4b2o4bobo$3bobob8obobo$2b2o2bo8bo2b2o$4bobob
2o2b2obobo$4bobob2o2b2obobo$5bo10bo$10b2o$9bo2bo$8b2o2b2o$7bo6bo$9b4o$
6bo8bo$7bo2b2o2bo$6b2o2b2o2b2o$6b2o6b2o$7bo6bo!
Ultimately, won't this only find alternate backends to the already known sparker? I would think that to find any new sparker you would need to set up the front end of the search to make the head of 104P9 impossible (e.g., by forcing more clearance). Is there a problem that needs a p9 domino spark that isn't already solved by the three domino sparkers we already have? I've personally always wanted a p9 dot sparker that can support the following p36 pentadecathlon hassler:

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x = 24, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
bo20bo$bo5b2o6b2o5bo$3o2bo4bo2bo4bo2b3o$3o2bo4bo2bo4bo2b3o$3o2bo4bo2bo
4bo2b3o$bo5b2o6b2o5bo$bo20bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » July 12th, 2021, 1:05 am

Sokwe wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 12:16 am
Ultimately, won't this only find alternate backends to the already known sparker? I would think that to find any new sparker you would need to set up the front end of the search to make the head of 104P9 impossible (e.g., by forcing more clearance).
I am curious if another backend even exists.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » July 12th, 2021, 2:59 am

This P88 oscillator throws off massive sparks.

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x = 29, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
3b2o19b2o$3bobo17bobo$5bo6b2ob2o6bo$5b3o2bo2bobo2bo2b3o$3b2o4b2obo3bob
2o4b2o$bo2bob2ob2o7b2ob2obo2bo$b2o2bobo13bobo2b2o$6bobo11bobo$7b3o4bo
4b3o$9bo3bobo3bo$5b3o6bo6b3o$4bo19bo$o2bo2b2obo2b5o2bob2o2bo2bo$4obo5b
o5bo5bob4o$4b2o2b2obo5bob2o2b2o$2bobob7obob7obobo$2b2o21b2o4$10b2o5b2o
$10bo2bobo2bo$9bo3bobo3bo$10bo7bo$11bobobobo$10bo7bo$8bo3b2ob2o3bo$12b
o3bo$b2o5bo3b2ob2o3bo5b2o$2bo23bo$2bobo19bobo$3b2o5bo2bobo2bo5b2o$10b
3o3b3o!
Here is a P88 herschel factory.

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x = 111, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o6bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo28b2o$o3b2o5bo3bo14b
2o26bo2bo$b3o2bo3bob2o44b3o$3bobobo2bobo2bo51b2o$5bo2bo4bob2o41b3o5bob
o$11bo4bo10bo12bobo15bo2bo4bo6bo$3bob5o3bo2bo11bo7b2o7b3o12b2o3b2o4b3o
$3bobo10bo4b2o5b2o6bobo4b2o2bo22bo5b2o$5bo7bob2o5bobo4b2o10b4ob2o22b2o
4bobo$2bo9bo2bo7b2o3b2o13b3o32bo$2b2o5bo2b2o14bo49b2o$8bobob2o27bo13bo
bo$2b2o5bo2b2o14bo12b2o10b3o2bo5b3o42bo$2bo9bo2bo7b2o3b2o11bobo9bo4bo
5b3o41bobo$5bo7bob2o5bobo4b2o12bo5b3ob2o9bo2b2o39bobo$3bobo10bo4b2o5b
2o6bobo3bo6b2o4b3o6b2ob2o40bo$3bob5o3bo2bo11bo7b2o26b4obo11b2o15bo$11b
o4bo10bo17b2o12b3obo3b2o12b2o15bobo$5bo2bo4bob2o28bobo15bo2b2o30b3o$3b
obobo2bobo2bo31bo16bo35bo$b3o2bo3bob2o33b2o$o3b2o5bo3bo14b2o$2o2bo7b2o
2bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o38b2o4b2o$5b2o6bo14bo30b2o8b2o5bo$12b2o45b2o12b
3o$73bo$63b2o$63bo$64b3o$66bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by yujh » July 12th, 2021, 6:10 am

I'll just throw a gun here before anyone:

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x = 60, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o6bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o$b
3o2bo3bo2b2o$3bobobo2bobo2bo$3bob2obobobo2bo$7b2o5b2o10bobo$4b2o2b2o2b
ob2o6bo13b2o11bo$3b3o9bo4b2obobo5b2o3b2o9b3o$13b3o4bo3bo7bo11bo2bobo$
2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo$2b2o5bo2bo8b2obobobo2bo26bo$8bobobo2bo22b
o5bo12bobo$2b2o5bo2bo8b2obobobo2bo6bo5bo12bobo$2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo5bo
4bo14bo$13b3o4bo3bo7bo8bo$3b3o9bo4b2obobo5b2o3b2o$4b2o2b2o2bob2o6bo13b
2o$7b2o5b2o10bobo16b2o$3bob2obobobo2bo29bobo$3bobobo2bobo2bo31bo$b3o2b
o3bo2b2o32b2o$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$5b2o6b
o14bo$12b2o!
I think 196 is minpop:

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x = 60, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o6bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$o3b2o5bo3bo14b2o$b3o
2bo3bob2o$3bobobo2bobo2bo$5bo2bo4bob2o15bobo$11bo4bo15bo3bo$3bob5o3bo
2bo14b2o3b2o$3bobo10bo6bo7b2o3b2o$5bo7bob2o4b2ob2o6bob2o10bo$2bo9bo2b
o7bo23b3o$2b2o5bo2b2o36bob2o4bo$8bobob2o34bo4bo3bobo$2b2o5bo2b2o36b3o
4bobo$2bo9bo2bo7bo34bo$5bo7bob2o4b2ob2o$3bobo10bo6bo$3bob5o3bo2bo$11b
o4bo28b2o$5bo2bo4bob2o28bobo$3bobobo2bobo2bo31bo$b3o2bo3bob2o33b2o$o3b
2o5bo3bo14b2o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$5b2o6bo14bo$12b2o!
Rule modifier

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by C28 » July 12th, 2021, 7:14 am

yujh wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 6:10 am
I'll just throw a gun here before anyone:

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x = 60, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o6bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o$b
3o2bo3bo2b2o$3bobobo2bobo2bo$3bob2obobobo2bo$7b2o5b2o10bobo$4b2o2b2o2b
ob2o6bo13b2o11bo$3b3o9bo4b2obobo5b2o3b2o9b3o$13b3o4bo3bo7bo11bo2bobo$
2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo$2b2o5bo2bo8b2obobobo2bo26bo$8bobobo2bo22b
o5bo12bobo$2b2o5bo2bo8b2obobobo2bo6bo5bo12bobo$2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo5bo
4bo14bo$13b3o4bo3bo7bo8bo$3b3o9bo4b2obobo5b2o3b2o$4b2o2b2o2bob2o6bo13b
2o$7b2o5b2o10bobo16b2o$3bob2obobobo2bo29bobo$3bobobo2bobo2bo31bo$b3o2b
o3bo2b2o32b2o$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o$5b2o6b
o14bo$12b2o!
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bibunsekibun » July 12th, 2021, 7:25 am

P88 Block Hassler

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x = 108, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$5b2o6bo14bo65b2o$6bo6bob2o11b3o48bo14bo6b2o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo45b
3o11b2obo6bo$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o44bo14bo2b2o7bo2b2o$b3o2bo3bo2b2o61b2o
14b2o2bo5b2o3bo$3bobobo2bobo2bo77b2o2bo3bo2b3o$3bob2obobobo2bo76bo2bob
o2bobobo$7b2o5b2o10bobo63bo2bobobob2obo$4b2o2b2o2bob2o6bo56bobo10b2o5b
2o$3b3o9bo4b2obobo5b2o25bo11b2o13bo6b2obo2b2o2b2o$13b3o4bo3bo7bo25b3o
9b2o3b2o5bobob2o4bo9b3o$2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo25bobo14bo7bo3bo4b3o$2b2o5b
o2bo8b2obobobo2bo28bo14bo3b3o10bo2bo7bobo$8bobobo2bo60bo2bobobob2o8bo
2bo5b2o$2b2o5bo2bo8b2obobobo2bo21b2o37bo2bobobo$2bobo7bo2bo10b3o3bo20b
2o21bo2bobobob2o8bo2bo5b2o$13b3o4bo3bo7bo27bo14bo3b3o10bo2bo7bobo$3b3o
9bo4b2obobo5b2o25bobo14bo7bo3bo4b3o$4b2o2b2o2bob2o6bo35b3o9b2o3b2o5bob
ob2o4bo9b3o$7b2o5b2o10bobo29bo11b2o13bo6b2obo2b2o2b2o$3bob2obobobo2bo
63bobo10b2o5b2o$3bobobo2bobo2bo76bo2bobobob2obo$b3o2bo3bo2b2o77bo2bobo
2bobobo$o3b2o5bo2b2o14b2o61b2o2bo3bo2b3o$2o2bo7b2o2bo14bo44b2o14b2o2bo
5b2o3bo$6bo6bob2o11b3o45bo14bo2b2o7bo2b2o$5b2o6bo14bo48b3o11b2obo6bo$
12b2o65bo14bo6b2o$94b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » July 12th, 2021, 7:56 am

yujh wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 6:10 am
I'll just throw a gun here before anyone...
I think 196 is minpop...
It's a nice find by Entity Valkyrie, but unfortunately p88 already has a gun with smaller bounding box and lower population (164).

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Kazyan » July 12th, 2021, 8:15 am

dvgrn wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 7:56 am
It's a nice find by Entity Valkyrie, but unfortunately p88 already has a gun with smaller bounding box and lower population (164).
Given how very not-picky this mechanism is, I'm actually optimistic that it can reduce at least one p44 gun multiple, even if it's only a little. It just calls for some good old fashioned catalyst searching.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » July 12th, 2021, 9:07 am

Kazyan wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 8:15 am
dvgrn wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 7:56 am
yujh wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 6:10 am
I'll just throw a gun here before anyone...
I think 196 is minpop...
It's a nice find by Entity Valkyrie, but unfortunately p88 already has a gun with smaller bounding box and lower population (164).
Given how very not-picky this mechanism is, I'm actually optimistic that it can reduce at least one p44 gun multiple, even if it's only a little. It just calls for some good old fashioned catalyst searching.
I posted this P88 here due to its massive spark (not because of guns, and that is why I didn't post it in the guns thread). Adding catalysts (such as blocks or eater 1s) can change the spark, but I'm not sure which guns can be reduced this way.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » July 12th, 2021, 9:15 am

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#N 91P51
x = 25, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o5bo$11bo4b2obo$6bob2obo2b2o3bo$6b2obob2o3bo2bob2o$9bo5bo2b2obo2bo
$o8b2ob2o3bo5b2o$3o10bobob2o$3bo5b2obo2b2o3bo$2bo6b2obobo3b2obo$3bo9bo
2b2o3bo$6b2o6b2obo3b2o$6b2o2$7b2o$7b2o$11bo$4b2o6bo$5bo5bo$2b3o7b3o$2b
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 12th, 2021, 9:43 am

Not a period multiplier (the left and right sparkers are already period 24), but here's a p24 honey farm hassler:

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x = 65, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
25b2o7b2o$6b2o17bo2b2ob2o2bo$5bobo18b2obobob2o$5bo21bobobobo$ob2ob2o4b
2o9bo4bob3obo$2obo2bo3bobo8bobo4b5o$5bo4b2o9bo$7b2obo11bo2bo$4bo2bo3b
2o10bo2bo$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o3b3o$6b2o4bo2b3o12bo$4bo2b3o2bo2bobo12bo$4bo
2bo3b2o2b3o39b2o$7b2obo46bobo$5bo4b2o7bo39bo$2obo2bo3bobo3bo5bo5b3o11b
o9b2o4b2ob2obo$ob2ob2o4b2o3bo10bo3bo9bobo8bobo3bo2bob2o$5bo12bo4bo2bo
5bo10bo9b2o4bo$5bo12bo4bobo3bo3bo5bo2bo11bob2o$ob2ob2o4b2o3bo8bo2bobo
2bo4bo2bo10b2o3bo2bo$2obo2bo3bobo3bo5bo2bo3bo3bo5b2o11bo2b3o2bo$5bo4b
2o7bo6bo5bo14b3o2bo4b2o$7b2obo16bo3bo15bobo2bo2b3o2bo$4bo2bo3b2o2b3o
10b3o3b3o10b3o2b2o3bo2bo$4bo2b3o2bo2bobo15bo3bo16bob2o$6b2o4bo2b3o14bo
5bo6bo7b2o4bo$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o5bo3bo3bo2bo5bo3bobo3bo2bob2o$4bo2bo3b2o
10bo2bo4bo2bobo2bo8bo3b2o4b2ob2obo$7b2obo11bo2bo5bo3bo3bobo4bo12bo$5bo
4b2o9bo10bo5bo2bo4bo12bo$2obo2bo3bobo8bobo9bo3bo10bo3b2o4b2ob2obo$ob2o
b2o4b2o9bo11b3o5bo5bo3bobo3bo2bob2o$5bo39bo7b2o4bo$5bobo46bob2o$6b2o
39b3o2b2o3bo2bo$34bo12bobo2bo2b3o2bo$34bo12b3o2bo4b2o$33b3o3b2o11bo2b
3o2bo$38bo2bo10b2o3bo2bo$39bo2bo11bob2o$43bo9b2o4bo$32b5o4bobo8bobo3bo
2bob2o$31bob3obo4bo9b2o4b2ob2obo$31bobobobo21bo$30b2obobob2o18bobo$29b
o2b2ob2o2bo17b2o$29b2o7b2o!
As well as this reaction that I posted with p30s two days ago:

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x = 58, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bobo$5bo$ob2ob2o4b2o9bo$2obo2bo3bobo8bobo$5bo4b2o9bo$7b2obo11bo
2bo$4bo2bo3b2o10bo2bo$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o$6b2o4bo2b3o$4bo2b3o2bo2bobo32b2o
$4bo2bo3b2o2b3o32bobo$7b2obo15b2o24bo$5bo4b2o7bo6b2o7bo9b2o4b2ob2obo$
2obo2bo3bobo3bo5bo11bobo8bobo3bo2bob2o$ob2ob2o4b2o3bo19bo9b2o4bo$5bo
12bo4bo8bo2bo11bob2o$5bo12bo4bo2b2o3bo2bo10b2o3bo2bo$ob2ob2o4b2o3bo8bo
2bo3b2o11bo2b3o2bo$2obo2bo3bobo3bo5bo3b2o12b3o2bo4b2o$5bo4b2o7bo20bobo
2bo2b3o2bo$7b2obo29b3o2b2o3bo2bo$4bo2bo3b2o2b3o29bob2o$4bo2b3o2bo2bobo
20bo7b2o4bo$6b2o4bo2b3o12b2o3bo5bo3bobo3bo2bob2o$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o3bo2bo
8bo3b2o4b2ob2obo$4bo2bo3b2o10bo2bo3b2o2bo4bo12bo$7b2obo11bo2bo8bo4bo
12bo$5bo4b2o9bo19bo3b2o4b2ob2obo$2obo2bo3bobo8bobo11bo5bo3bobo3bo2bob
2o$ob2ob2o4b2o9bo7b2o6bo7b2o4bo$5bo24b2o15bob2o$5bobo32b3o2b2o3bo2bo$
6b2o32bobo2bo2b3o2bo$40b3o2bo4b2o$32b2o11bo2b3o2bo$31bo2bo10b2o3bo2bo$
32bo2bo11bob2o$36bo9b2o4bo$34bobo8bobo3bo2bob2o$35bo9b2o4b2ob2obo$52bo
$50bobo$50b2o!
Now for the partials:

p48 shuttle

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x = 52, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
3b2o3b2o$3b2o3b2o3bo$12bobo$6b3ob4o4b2o$6b4o8b2o$2bo2bo6bobo$bobo3bo2b
obo2b2o$2b2ob2o6bob2o$3bo11b2ob2o$3bo2bo8bo2b2o$2o2bo8bo2bo$2ob2o11bo$
3b2obo6b2ob2o6bo$3b2o2bobo2bo3bobo4b3o$5bobo6bo2bo5b4o$2o8b4o13bo7b2o
3b2o$2o4b4ob3o10bo2b2o6b2o3b2o$5bobo15bobob3o15b2o$6bo3b2o3b2o7bo2b2o
15bo2bo2b2o$10b2o3b2o10bo7b3o7bobo2b2o$22b5o7bo2bo3b2o3b2o$23b3o8bobo
4b2o$24bo10bo$50b2o$24b2o11b2o6b2o3b2o$32b2o3b2o6b2o$32b2o$48bo$41b2o
4bobo$36b2o3b2o3bo2bo$32b2o2bobo7b3o$32b2o2bo2bo$37b2o$42b2o3b2o$42b2o
3b2o!
Yes, I know we have a whole bunch of p46s already

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x = 28, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$5bob2ob2obo$5b2obobobo$11bo4bo8bo$17b2o4b3o$22bo$15b2o5b2o$
14b3o$ob2o10bobo$2obo7bo2b2o5b2o$11bo2bo2bo3b2o$11bo2b2o2bo$11b2o2bobo
$11bo$15bo$10b2o3bo$10bob2o$10bobo11$11b3o$10bo3bo$9bo5bo$9bo5bo$9bo5b
o$7bo2bo3bo$11b3o9$14b3o$13bo3bo2bo$12bo5bo$12bo5bo$12bo5bo$13bo3bo$
14b3o11$15bobo$14b2obo$12bo3b2o$12bo$16bo$10bobo2b2o$9bo2b2o2bo$5b2o3b
o2bo2bo$5b2o5b2o2bo7bob2o$11bobo10b2obo$11b3o$4b2o5b2o$5bo$2b3o4b2o$2b
o8bo4bo$15bobobob2o$14bob2ob2obo$14bo$13b2o!
p62 gun partial (no, Merzenich's p31 doesn't work unless I missed something)

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x = 219, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
bo$2o$obo3$209b2o2$208b2o3bo$207b2o4bo$208b2o$9b3o97b3o$8bo3bo95bo3bo
103b3o$7bo5bo93bo5bo99b2o3bo$7bo5bo91bobo5bo94b2o3b2obo$7bo5bo93bo5bo
94b3o2bo2bo$8bo3bo95bo3bo94bo2bo2b2obo$9b3o97b3o95bob2o3bobo$207bo2bo
3bo2bo$13b3o97b3o92bobo3b2obo$12bo3bo95bo3bo91bob2o2bo2bo$11bo5bo93bo
5bo90bo2bo2b3o$11bo5bo93bo5bobo88bob2o3b2o$11bo5bo93bo5bo88bo3b2o$12bo
3bo95bo3bo89b3o$13b3o97b3o$215b2o$211bo4b2o$211bo3b2o2$214b2o3$22bobo$
23b2o$23bo!
p72

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x = 40, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
3b2o9b2o2b2o9b2o$4bo9bo4bo9bo$3bo11bo2bo11bo$3b2o9b2o2b2o9b2o$4bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo$b3ob9ob4ob9ob3o$o2bo3bobobo3bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo$2o30b2o$6b2o
3b2o8b2o3b2o2$4b2ob2ob2ob2o4b2ob2ob2ob2o$3bo5bo5bo2bo5bo5bo$3b2obo5bob
2o2b2obo5bob2o2$9bo14bo2$16b2o$15bo2bo$9bobo4b2o4bobo$10bo12bo$10bo12b
o2$5b2o20b2o$5bobo18bobo$6b2o18b2o4$18b2o$19b2o$15bob2obo$13bo2bo4bo$
12bob6ob2o$12bo6bo3bo$12bo6bo3bo$10bo10b3o$10bo18bo$16b3o10bo$16bo3bo
6bo$16bo3bo6bo$17b2ob6obo$18bo4bo2bo$19bob2obo$19b2o$20b2o4$12b2o18b2o
$11bobo18bobo$11b2o20b2o2$16bo12bo$16bo12bo$15bobo4b2o4bobo$21bo2bo$
22b2o2$15bo14bo2$9b2obo5bob2o2b2obo5bob2o$9bo5bo5bo2bo5bo5bo$10b2ob2ob
2ob2o4b2ob2ob2ob2o2$12b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$6b2o30b2o$6bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo3bo
bobo3bo2bo$7b3ob9ob4ob9ob3o$10bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$9b2o9b2o2b2o9b2o$9bo
11bo2bo11bo$10bo9bo4bo9bo$9b2o9b2o2b2o9b2o!
unrelated p72; once we get a p36 domino sparker, it will be completable

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x = 218, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
199b2o2$102bo98b2o9b2o$101b3o4b2o90bo2b2o7b3o$101b2obo3b2o93b2o8b2o$2b
3o95b2o2b2o7bo88b3o8b2o$bo3bo95b4o8bo2bo81b2o$o5bo94b3o8bobobo80bo2bo$
o5bo104bobo82b5o$o5bob3o100b3o81b5o3b2o10b2o$bo3bobo3bo88bo11bo82bo2bo
4b2o3b2o4bo2bo$2b3obo5bo86b3o94b2o10b2o3b5o$6bo5bo86bobo110b5o$6bo5bo
83bobobo8b3o100bo2bo$7bo3bo84bo2bo8b4o101b2o$8b3o88bo7b2o2b2o85b2o8b3o
$103b2o3bob2o86b2o8b2o$103b2o4b3o86b3o7b2o2bo$110bo88b2o9b2o2$212b2o!
p64

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x = 214, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
203b2o2$105bo98bo$103bob2o95bob2ob3o$106b3o92bo6b2o$99b2o3bobobo92bo2b
2obo2bo$2b3o93bob8o101bo$bo3bo91b4ob7o95bobob2o$o5bo89b2o9bobo95b2o4b
3o$o5bo87bo2b2o3bo4bo2bo91bobo$o5bo87bo2b2ob3o8bo91bo$bo3bo92b3o11bo$
2b3o2b3o88b2o12b2o$6bo3bo88bo11b3o$5bo5bo88bo8b3ob2o2bo90bo$5bo5bo89bo
2bo4bo3b2o2bo89bobo$5bo5bo90bobo9b2o82b3o4b2o$6bo3bo92b7ob4o87b2obobo$
7b3o94b8obo88bo$103bobobo3b2o88bo2bob2o2bo$103b3o96b2o6bo$105b2obo93b
3ob2obo$106bo100bo2$207b2o!
yet another p25

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x = 41, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
16b2o2$6b2o9bo$5bo2bo7bobo$o2bo2bobo7bobo$5obob2o6b2o$6b2o3bo$2b3o2b2o
$bobo2bobo3bo7b3o$bob2o2b2o11bo12bo2b2o$2bo3b2o3bo8b2o2bobo5bobo2bo$3b
2obob2o5bo6b5o5bobobo$4bobobo5b5o6bo5b2obob2o$3bo2bobo5bobo2b2o8bo3b2o
3bo$3b2o2bo12bo11b2o2b2obo$18b3o7bo3bobo2bobo$32b2o2b3o$29bo3b2o$23b2o
6b2obob5o$22bobo7bobo2bo2bo$22bobo7bo2bo$23bo9b2o2$23b2o!
p196 flipper; just need a p14 (or p28) domino sparker

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x = 217, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
199b2o$102bo$101bo5b2o92bo$8b3o95bo2bo91bo4b2o$7bo3bo90bo6bo91b3o$6bo
5bo84bo5bo5bo92b2o2bo$6bo5bo80bo2bobo5bo95bo4bo$6bo5bo80bob2ob2o5b3o
89bobo5bo2bobo$7bo3bo84bobo97b4o3bo4b2o3bo$8b3o86bo98bo2bobobo9bobo$2b
3o110bo81bobo9bobobo2bo$bo3bo108bobo82bo3b2o4bo3b4o$o5bo98b3o5b2ob2obo
82bobo2bo5bobo$o5bo101bo5bobo2bo87bo4bo$o5bo96bo5bo5bo90bo2b2o$bo3bo
97bo6bo98b3o$2b3o98bo2bo98b2o4bo$104b2o5bo99bo$110bo$212b2o!
p200; needs a p10 or higher domino sparker

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x = 215, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
202b2o2$199bo3bo$199bo2bo2b2o$199bo2b2ob2o$202bob3o$96bob2o98b5o2bo$8b
3o84bo4b4o2b2o90b2o2bobo$7bo3bo84bo3bo3bo2b2o90bo7bobo$6bo5bo76bo9b5o
2b3o92b2o2bobo3bo$6bo5bo76bo2b2o4bo2bo4b2o7b2o83b2o3bobob2o$6bo5bo78bo
2bo3bobo5bobo6b2o82b2o5bo$7bo3bo80b2o4bob2o3bo3bo5bobo81b2o$8b3o92bo5b
o6b2o$2b3o90b2o6bo5bo$bo3bo89bobo5bo3bo3b2obo4b2o91b2o$o5bo89b2o6bobo
5bobo3bo2bo84bo5b2o$o5bo89b2o7b2o4bo2bo4b2o2bo78b2obobo3b2o$o5bo97b3o
2b5o9bo77bo3bobo2b2o$bo3bo98b2o2bo3bo3bo86bobo7bo$2b3o100b2o2b4o4bo90b
obo2b2o$113b2obo90bo2b5o$206b3obo$206b2ob2o2bo$206b2o2bo2bo$209bo3bo2$
209b2o!
Because of what I'm doing, I'm probably going to be on honey farm hasslers for several weeks.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » July 12th, 2021, 11:06 am

JP21 wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 9:15 am

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#N 91P51
x = 25, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o5bo$11bo4b2obo$6bob2obo2b2o3bo$6b2obob2o3bo2bob2o$9bo5bo2b2obo2bo
$o8b2ob2o3bo5b2o$3o10bobob2o$3bo5b2obo2b2o3bo$2bo6b2obobo3b2obo$3bo9bo
2b2o3bo$6b2o6b2obo3b2o$6b2o2$7b2o$7b2o$11bo$4b2o6bo$5bo5bo$2b3o7b3o$2b
o11bo!
Why didn't you post that in my thread for easier reference?
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » July 12th, 2021, 11:31 am

Freywa wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 11:06 am
Why didn't you post that in my thread for easier reference?
Well, I've seen the thread just before posting that.
But I quickly decided to post it here. It almost wasn't even noticed so I will consider posting there instead next time in case I find another "smallest oscillator of it's period".

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 12th, 2021, 7:24 pm

JP21 wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 9:15 am

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#N 91P51
x = 25, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o5bo$11bo4b2obo$6bob2obo2b2o3bo$6b2obob2o3bo2bob2o$9bo5bo2b2obo2bo
$o8b2ob2o3bo5b2o$3o10bobob2o$3bo5b2obo2b2o3bo$2bo6b2obobo3b2obo$3bo9bo
2b2o3bo$6b2o6b2obo3b2o$6b2o2$7b2o$7b2o$11bo$4b2o6bo$5bo5bo$2b3o7b3o$2b
o11bo!
Nice reduction! The stator can actually be reduced by one more cell:

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x = 25, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o5bo$11bo4b2obo$6bob2obo2b2o3bo$6b2obob2o3bo2bob2o$9bo5bo2b2obo2bo
$o8b2ob2o3bo5b2o$3o10bobob2o$3bo5b2obo2b2o3bo$2bo6b2obobo3b3o$3bo9bo2b
2o$6b2o6b2o2bo$6b2o9b2o2$7b2o$7b2o$11bo$4b2o6bo$5bo5bo$2b3o7b3o$2bo11b
o!
Noam Elkies called the original p3 eater "cheater2", and I think we should adopt that naming for the wiki pages. So the p51 can be "Honey thieves on p3 cheater2", and we won't have to create a new page each time we find a new variant.
JP21 wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 11:31 am
Freywa wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 11:06 am
Why didn't you post that in my thread for easier reference?
Well, I've seen the thread just before posting that.
But I quickly decided to post it here. It almost wasn't even noticed so I will consider posting there instead next time in case I find another "smallest oscillator of it's period".
This is one of those cases where you can post the discovery in two different threads. Also, the reason it might not have been noticed is that you didn't give much of a description for it. For example, you could have written "new smallest p51 oscillator" in your post. In fact, rule 5(b) states that you're supposed to include a description with patterns posted outside the sandbox:
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Readers of your post should have a rough idea of what to expect when they open your RLE in LifeViewer or copy it into another program. Outside of the Sandbox forum, at least briefly describe (or quote another post that describes) what pattern(s) you're posting. Descriptions also make it much easier to find patterns by searching the forums.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » July 12th, 2021, 8:19 pm

Sokwe wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 7:24 pm
"cheater2"
Huh, is that actually what it's called? apgoucher calls it a treater2 here:
calcyman wrote:
September 12th, 2014, 9:17 am
I can manage a non-trivial p51 using Stephen Silver's treater2:

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x = 26, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15b2o2$13b4o$12bo4bo4b2o$13bo2bo6bo$10b3obobo4bo$9bo3bo6bob4o$o
8b2ob2o2bo3bobo2bo$3o10bobo2b3obo$3bo5b2obo2bo$2b2o5b2obobo4b2o2b2o$
13bob6o4bo$6b3o5bo4b2ob4o$5bo3bo5b3o$4bo5bo6b2obob2o$5bo3bo10bobo$6b3o
8b2obobo$17b2ob2o$4b2o5b2o$5bo5bo$2b3o7b3o$2bo11bo!
(and yes, this is just the same honey-thieves-on-p3-eater combination, but larger and with a slightly different mechanism.)

not that either name makes much sense to me, apart from the eater2 bit, or that i actually hear a difference between the two when audiated
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » July 12th, 2021, 9:07 pm

While trying to figure out a synthesis component, I noticed that this might lead to some drifter-y oscillator stuff.

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x = 23, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
13.2B.2A3B$.A11.BAB.A2B$A.A10.BAB.A.B$.A.A11.A.ABA$2.A.A9.2A.A.3A$3.A
.A7.A2.2A4.A$4.A.A3.2A2.A4.3A$5.A.A.A2.2A.4A$6.A3.2A2.A4.A$13.A2.2A.A
$14.2A.2A!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 13th, 2021, 2:07 am

bubblegum wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 8:19 pm
Sokwe wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 7:24 pm
"cheater2"
Huh, is that actually what it's called?
Noam Elkies discovered the p3 eater2 variant on July 24, 2000. It's original purpose was to construct a p39 oscillator with some p39 cells, which Elkies described as "arguably nontrivial" in an email titled "p39, and other cheats". The next day he started using the term "cheater2" to refer to this p3 eater.

I don't know where the attribution to Stephen Silver comes from. It may be erroneous.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 13th, 2021, 11:57 am

p96 honey farm shuttle

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x = 36, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$12bobo4b2o$12bobob2o2bo$13bobobobo$15bobob2o$14b2o2bo2bo$13bobo
4bobo$13b2o2b2obo2bo$17b3o2b2o2$19bo$7b2o9b2o$6bo2bo7b2o$6b3o2b8o$9b2o
17b3o$8bo18b2obo$8b2obo4bo9bo2b2o$13b2o10b6o3bo$26bo2b2o2bobo$27b3o3b
2o2$27b3o3b2o$26bo2b2o2bobo$16b3o6b6o3bo$15bo3bo6bo2b2o$5b3o6bo5bo6b2o
bo$5bob2o5bo5bo7b3o$5b2o2bo4bo5bo$bo3b6o4bo3bo$obo2b2o2bo6b3o$b2o3b3o
2$b2o3b3o$obo2b2o2bo$bo3b6o10b2o$5b2o2bo9bo4bob2o$5bob2o18bo$5b3o17b2o
$17b8o2b3o$17b2o7bo2bo$16b2o9b2o$16bo2$12b2o2b3o$12bo2bob2o2b2o$13bobo
4bobo$14bo2bo2b2o$15b2obobo$16bobobobo$15bo2b2obobo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o!
More partials:

p42

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x = 22, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
6bo2bo$4b8o$6b4o4$5b3o$4bo3bo$3bo5bo$obo3bo3bo3b3o$2bo2bobo2bo2bo3bo$
2bo3bo3bobo5bo$3bo5bobo3bo3bo$4bo3bo2bo2bobo2bo$5b3o3bo3bo3bobo$12bo5b
o$13bo3bo$14b3o4$12b4o$10b8o$12bo2bo!
p47

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x = 216, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
209bo$103bo$2b3o97b3o103b2o$bo3bo95b5o101bobo$o5bo93b2o3b2o99b2o$o5bo
90bob3o3b3o99bobo$o5bo90bo2b2o3b2o101b2o$bo3bo95b5o108b2o$2b3o97b3o6bo
102b2o$10b3o90bo6b3o86b2o$9bo3bo95b5o85b2o$8bo5bo93b2o3b2o2bo87b2o$8bo
5bo92b3o3b3obo87bobo$8bo5bo93b2o3b2o92b2o$9bo3bo95b5o91bobo$10b3o97b3o
92b2o$111bo$206bo!
p66

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x = 46, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7b3o$6bo$6b2o3$3o$2o2bo$3ob2o$2b2ob2o14b2o$5bo$4bo12bo3bo23bo$16bo
4bo21b3o$16bo4bo20bo$18bo23b2o$5bo$4bo14b3o$3b2ob2o10bob2o14b3o$4b2ob
3o9b2o15b2o2bo$5bo2b2o15b2o9b3ob2o$7b3o14b2obo10b2ob2o$24b3o14bo$40bo$
2b2o23bo$3bo20bo4bo$3o21bo4bo$o23bo3bo12bo$40bo$23b2o14b2ob2o$40b2ob3o
$41bo2b2o$43b3o3$38b2o$39bo$36b3o$36bo!
p86

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x = 215, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
99b2o99b2o$96bobo13b2o$96bo2b2o7b2o4bo86bo$2b3o93bobo5b2o6bo84b2obo$bo
3bo92b2o2b3obo92bo2bo$o5bo91bo2b5o7bo85bo2bo3bo$o5bo98b3ob3o89b2o2b2o$
o5bo92b3o3b4o92b2o4bo$bo3bo3b3o87b3o9bo2bo85b2o2b2ob2o$2b3o3bo3bo86bo
2bo9b3o90b2ob2o2b2o$7bo5bo91b4o3b3o91bo4b2o$7bo5bo88b3ob3o98b2o2b2o$7b
o5bo86bo7b5o2bo91bo3bo2bo$8bo3bo94bob3o2b2o95bo2bo$9b3o87bo6b2o5bobo
95bob2o$99bo4b2o7b2o2bo94bo$100b2o13bobo$113b2o97b2o!

Once we find a p23 sparker, we have a p115:

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x = 221, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
210b2o$210b2o2$10bo196bo$9bobo$9bobo96b3o97b2ob2o$10bo88b2o107b2ob2o$
99b2o5bo5bo98bo$2b3o94bo6bo5bo87bo4b3o3bo$bo3bo92b2o6bo5b4o83b3o9b2o$o
5bo89b4o14b3o81bo3bo6b5o$o5bo89bo3bo7b3o2bo2bo3bo75bob3ob2o4bo2bob2o$o
5bo93b2o12bo3bobo73b4o13bob3o$bo3bo3b3o86bob2o10b2o3b2o74bo10bo3b2obo
4b5o$2b3o3bo3bo82b2o3b2o10b2obo77b5o4bob2o3bo10bo$7bo5bo79bobo3bo12b2o
84b3obo13b4o$7bo5bo79bo3bo2bo2b3o7bo3bo81b2obo2bo4b2ob3obo$7bo5bo83b3o
14b4o82b5o6bo3bo$8bo3bo85b4o5bo6b2o85b2o9b3o$9b3o89bo5bo6bo87bo3b3o4bo
$101bo5bo5b2o87bo$3bo109b2o86b2ob2o$2bobo98b3o95b2ob2o$2bobo$3bo202bo
2$202b2o$202b2o!
p176

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x = 214, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
202b2o2$203bo$201b2obobo$203bob3o$9b3o90b3o96b3obo2bo$8bo3bo85bo2bo3bo
95b2o4b2o$7bo5bo86bo5bo99bo$7bo5bo86bo5bo93bo3b3o4bo$2b3o2bo5bo86bo5bo
2b3o91b4o5b2o$bo3bo2bo3bo88bo3bo2bo3bo87b2o10b2o$o5bo2b3o90b3o2bo5bo
86b2o5b4o$o5bo100bo5bo88bo4b3o3bo$o5bo100bo5bo93bo$bo3bo102bo3bo2bo89b
2o4b2o$2b3o104b3o93bo2bob3o$206b3obo$207bobob2o$210bo2$210b2o!
p200

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x = 64, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
8b2o4b2o$8bobo2bobo$10bo2bo$9b2o2b2o$8b3o2b3o$b4o5bo2bo$ob2obo$2o2b2o
5bo$2o2b2o$ob2obo3b3o$b4o4bobo$9b3o10$30b2o2$30bo17b2o4b2o$10b3o17bo
17bobo2bobo$10bobo7b2o9b2o17bo2bo$10b3o7b2o10bo5b2o9b2o2b2o$24b3o4bobo
3bo2bo7b3o2b3o$32bo5b2o10bo2bo5b4o$31b2o25bob2obo$10bo19bo27b2o2b2o$
10bo19bo27b2o2b2o$10bo42bo4bob2obo$53bo5b4o$6b3o3b3o38bo2$10bo38b3o3b
3o$b4o5bo$ob2obo4bo42bo$2o2b2o27bo19bo$2o2b2o27bo19bo$ob2obo25b2o$b4o
5bo2bo10b2o5bo$8b3o2b3o7bo2bo3bobo4b3o$9b2o2b2o9b2o5bo10b2o7b3o$10bo2b
o17b2o9b2o7bobo$8bobo2bobo17bo17b3o$8b2o4b2o17bo2$32b2o10$52b3o$52bobo
4b4o$52b3o3bob2obo$58b2o2b2o$52bo5b2o2b2o$58bob2obo$50bo2bo5b4o$48b3o
2b3o$49b2o2b2o$50bo2bo$48bobo2bobo$48b2o4b2o!
A periodic restoring reaction, but not very accessible

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x = 65, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo56bo$2bobo10bo3b2o39bobo$2o2b2o8bobobobo23b2o3bo10bobo$bobo6b
2o2bobobo10b2o13bobobobo8b2o2b2o$o2b3o4bobobobob2o26bobobo2b2o6bobo$ob
o3bo5bobobo2bo9bo15b2obobobobo4b3o2bo$bob3obo4bo2b2ob2o8bobo14bo2bobob
o5bo3bobo$3bo3b2o6b2ob2o8bobo14b2ob2o2bo4bob3obo$3bo3b2o6b2ob2o9bo5bo
9b2ob2o6b2o3bo$bob3obo4bo2b2ob2o14bobo8b2ob2o6b2o3bo$obo3bo5bobobo2bo
14bobo8b2ob2o2bo4bob3obo$o2b3o4bobobobob2o15bo9bo2bobobo5bo3bobo$bobo
6b2o2bobobo26b2obobobobo4b3o2bo$2o2b2o8bobobobo13b2o10bobobo2b2o6bobo$
2bobo10bo3b2o23bobobobo8b2o2b2o$2bobo39b2o3bo10bobo$3bo56bobo$61bo!
I'm putting my gun partials in the gun discussion thread.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » July 13th, 2021, 12:02 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 13th, 2021, 11:57 am
p42
That's P52.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 13th, 2021, 7:29 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 13th, 2021, 11:57 am
p96 honey farm shuttle
Great! The sparkers can be replaced with blockers and figure eights, giving a 63-cell form:

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x = 22, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2b2obo$6bo$3bo$4bob2o$6b2o11b2o$19b2o2$20bo$19bobo$18bo2bo$17bo2b
o2$10b2o5bo2bo$9bo2bo6b2o$10b2o$12bo$b2o8bo$bo2bo6bo2$bo2bo$o2bo$obo$b
o2$b2o$b2o11b2o$14b2obo$18bo$15bo$16bob2o$18b2o!
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