Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 27th, 2021, 2:36 pm

EvinZL wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 11:37 am
Doing a p6 weld to supply both of these sparks seems more likely:
I'm not sure about that. Such a solution would imply a p6 bouncer with better clearance, and the bouncer has been around long enough that we'd probably know of any improvements for that period if they existed. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 27th, 2021, 3:16 pm

Just slightly over an hour after the p12, here's a p16 supported by other p16s:

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x = 37, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
10b2o3b2o$6bo3b2o3b2o$5bobo$2o3bo2bo$2o6bob5o$4bo2b3obo4b2o$4bobo2bobo
bo4bo$4bo9bo2bo$2o2b3o7b3o$2o2bo8b2o$5b2o8bo2b2o$3b3o7b3o2b2o$2bo2bo9b
o$bo4bobobo2bobo13b2o$2b2o4bob3o2bo12bo2bo$5b5obo6b2o11b2o$11bo2bo3b2o
5bo5b3o$12bobo9bobo3bo2bo$3b2o3b2o3bo11b2o3b3o$3b2o3b2o$16bo8b2o3b3o$
16bobo5bobo3bo2bo$16b3o6bo5b3o$6b2o23b2o$5bo2bo19bo2bo$4b2o23b2o$3b3o
5bo6b3o$3bo2bo3bobo5bobo$4b3o3b2o8bo$27b2o3b2o$4b3o3b2o11bo3b2o3b2o$3b
o2bo3bobo9bobo$3b3o5bo5b2o3bo2bo$4b2o11b2o6bob5o$5bo2bo12bo2b3obo4b2o$
6b2o13bobo2bobobo4bo$21bo9bo2bo$17b2o2b3o7b3o$17b2o2bo8b2o$22b2o8bo2b
2o$20b3o7b3o2b2o$19bo2bo9bo$18bo4bobobo2bobo$19b2o4bob3o2bo$22b5obo6b
2o$28bo2bo3b2o$29bobo$20b2o3b2o3bo$20b2o3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by EvinZL » July 27th, 2021, 3:35 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 2:36 pm
EvinZL wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 11:37 am
Doing a p6 weld to supply both of these sparks seems more likely:
I'm not sure about that. Such a solution would imply a p6 bouncer with better clearance, and the bouncer has been around long enough that we'd probably know of any improvements for that period if they existed. Of course, I could be wrong.
I disagree on that one. There isn't a reasonable definition of "clearance" for which a solution implies a higher clearance solution (bounding box isn't necessarily smaller, and the boat replacement spark is part of the same osc. The fact that the bouncer has been around long enough implying it is thoroughly searched is completely incorrect, e.g. p4 bouncer.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 27th, 2021, 5:37 pm

EvinZL wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 3:35 pm
The fact that the bouncer has been around long enough implying it is thoroughly searched is completely incorrect, e.g. p4 bouncer.
Part of my point is that p6 would be one of the "easy" periods, small enough to be searchable but large enough to have enough clearance.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » July 27th, 2021, 6:26 pm

wwei47 wrote:
July 26th, 2021, 9:18 pm
This is very close!

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x = 26, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
6b2o12b2o$3bo2bo2bob6obo2bo2bo$2bobobob2obo4bob2obobobo$3bo2bo2bobo4bo
bo2bo2bo$6b2o12b2o$10b2ob2ob2o$9bobo4bobo$8bobo6bobo$9bo8bo2$9bo8bo$8b
obo6bobo$9bobo4bobo$10b2ob2ob2o$6b2o12b2o$3bo2bo2bobo4bobo2bo2bo$2bobo
bob2obo4bob2obobobo$3bo2bo2bob6obo2bo2bo$6b2o12b2o3$o4b2o5b2o3b2o4bo$
3o2bo5bo6bo2b3o$3bobo5bobo4bobo$2bo2b2o5bo4b2o2bo$2bobo2b2o6b2o2bobo$
3bobob10obobo$5bobob6obobo$4bo3bob4obo3bo$4b2obobo4bobob2o$5bobob2o2b
2obobo$2bo2bobo2bo2bo2bobo2bo$bobobo2b2o4b2o2bobobo$2b2obobobo4bobobob
2o$4bobo2b6o2bobo$4bo14bo$2b2ob4obo2bob4ob2o$3bobo4bo2bo4bobo$3bobo2bo
bo2bobo2bobo$4bo4bo4bo4bo$8bo6bo$7b2o6b2o$7bo8bo!
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x = 26, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
6b2o12b2o$3bo2bo2bob6obo2bo2bo$2bobobob2obo4bob2obobobo$3bo2bo2bobo4bo
bo2bo2bo$6b2o12b2o$10b2ob2ob2o$9bobo4bobo$8bobo6bobo$9bo8bo2$9bo8bo$8b
obo6bobo$9bobo4bobo$10b2ob2ob2o$6b2o12b2o$3bo2bo2bobo4bobo2bo2bo$2bobo
bob2obo4bob2obobobo$3bo2bo2bob6obo2bo2bo$6b2o12b2o3$o4b2o5b2o3b2o4bo$
3o2bo5bo6bo2b3o$3bobo5bobo4bobo$2bo2b2o5bo4b2o2bo$2bobo2b2o6b2o2bobo$
3bobob10obobo$5bobob6obobo$4bo3bob4obo3bo$4b2obobo4bobob2o$5bobob2o2b
2obobo$2bo2bobo2bo2bo2bobo2bo$bobobo2b2o4b2o2bobobo$2b2obobobo4bobobob
2o$4bobo2b6o2bobo$4bo14bo$2b2ob4obo2bob4ob2o$3bobo4bo2bo4bobo$3bobo2bo
bo2bobo2bobo$4bo4bo4bo4bo$8bo6bo$7b2o6b2o$6bo10bo$7bo8bo$8bo6bo$4b2o3b
2o2b2o3b2o$bo2bo2bobob2obobo2bo2bo$obobob2obo4bob2obobobo$bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo$4b2o3bo4bo3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Kazyan » July 27th, 2021, 8:10 pm

Given that it has now become reasonable to make bespoke oscillators for specific interactions, I've been giving some thought to the idea of a universal, low-period block keeper or blinker keeper. Such an oscillator would have a sparking area that is suppressed by a block or blinker, which, when removed, would be recreated.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 27th, 2021, 9:23 pm

Kazyan wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 8:10 pm
Given that it has now become reasonable to make bespoke oscillators for specific interactions, I've been giving some thought to the idea of a universal, low-period block keeper or blinker keeper. Such an oscillator would have a sparking area that is suppressed by a block or blinker, which, when removed, would be recreated.
You need a base keeping reaction first, though. I tried to find one, but the only result of interest so far is that a pond and two blinkers make the front part of a copperhead, which might reduce the synthesis.

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o2$b6o$b2o2b2o$2o4b2o!
I'll keep searching.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Kazyan » July 27th, 2021, 10:52 pm

Unrelatedly, here's a partial for a p14 hassler:

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x = 12, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o8b2o$bo8bo$bob2o2b2obo$2bobo2bobo4$3bob2obo$3b6o$4b4o3$2bobo2bobo$bo
b2o2b2obo$bo8bo$2o8b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » July 28th, 2021, 5:54 am

This is a reduction(?) of the long-known p3 implementation of a periodic TL-push by Noam Elkies.
This is known territory (p14 tl hassler by Karel Suhajda) but still thought the idea was interesting:

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x = 14, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bobo2b2o$2bobobobo$b2obob2o$4b2o$b2obo2bob2o$2b8o$o8b2o$8ob3o$7b
2o$4o2b2o2bo$o2bob2o3bo$5bo2bo$5bobo$4b2ob2o3b2o$11b3o$4b2ob2o3b2o$5bo
bo$5bo2bo$o2bob2o3bo$4o2b2o2bo$7b2o$8ob3o$o8b2o$2b8o$b2obo2bob2o$4b2o$
b2obob2o$2bobobobo$2bobo2b2o$3b2o!
Now looking at it, it doesn't look much smaller than the original form

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x = 20, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo$5bob4o$2b2obo5bob2o$2bobob3o2bobo$4bobo2bobobo$2bo2b2o4bo2b2o$
2bo2bobobo6bo$3bobob5ob3o$bobob2o7b2o$obobo6bobo$obo2b2o2bobobo$bobobo
2bob2ob2o3bo$3bobob2o9b2o$bobobo2bob2ob2o3bo$obo2b2o2bobobo$obobo6bobo
$bobob2o7b2o$3bobob5ob3o$2bo2bobobo6bo$2bo2b2o4bo2b2o$4bobo2bobobo$2bo
bob3o2bobo$2b2obo5bob2o$5bob4o$5b2obo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 28th, 2021, 5:23 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 27th, 2021, 1:57 pm
p12 complete, can probably be reduced

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x = 47, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
22bob2ob2o$22b2obobobo$25bo3b3o$20b5ob2o4bo$20bo3bo3b5o$22bobobobo$21b
2o3bobo2b2o$27b3o2bo$21b2o2bo3b3o$20bo2bobobo$20b2obo5b3o6b2o$21bo4b3o
3bo5bobo$21bob2ob2ob3o9bo$12b2o8bo16b2obob2o$11bobo12bo2bo5b2obo3b2obo
$11bobob2o10bo5b3o2b2obo$12bobobo16b2o3b2o2b3o$14bo10b2o3bo2bo10bo$13b
o2bo7bobo6bo6b4o$b2o10bo6bo3bo2bobo3bo5bobo2b3o$o2bo2b2o5bo3bo2b2o3b2o
2bo3bo5b2o2bo2bo$3o2bobo5bo3bobo2bo3bo6bo10b2o$3b4o6bo6bobo7bo2bo$2bo
10bo2bo3b2o10bo$2b3o2b2o3b2o16bobobo$5bob2o2b3o5bo10b2obobo$bob2o3bob
2o5bo2bo12bobo$b2obob2o16bo8b2o$5bo9b3ob2ob2obo$6bobo5bo3b3o4bo$7b2o6b
3o5bob2o$19bobobo2bo$15b3o3bo2b2o$14bo2b3o$14b2o2bobo3b2o$18bobobobo$
14b5o3bo3bo$14bo4b2ob5o$15b3o3bo$17bobobob2o$18b2ob2obo!
It can be reduced using p6 sparkers:

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x = 43, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
24bo$24b3o$21bo5bo$21b6obo$26bobo$21b3o4b2o$21bo3b3o$22bo4bo4bo$5bo3b
2o15bo4bobo4bo$bo2bobobo2bo13bo5bobo2b3o$b4obob2obo18b2obobo$6bo4b2o
10b2o3bo4bo2b3o$b2ob2ob4o3bo7bobo6b3obo2bo$o2bobobobobo6bo3bo2bobo6b2o
$2o2bo2bo3bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo3bo2bo2b2o$7b2o6bobo2bo3bo6bobobobobo2bo$
4bo2bob3o6bobo7bo3b4ob2ob2o$4b3o2bo4bo3b2o10b2o4bo$7bobob2o18bob2obob
4o$4b3o2bobo5bo13bo2bobobo2bo$4bo4bobo4bo15b2o3bo$10bo4bo4bo$15b3o3bo$
13b2o4b3o$14bobo$14bob6o$15bo5bo$16b3o$18bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by 83bismuth38 » July 29th, 2021, 12:18 am

while wls-ing it up, finding p3s (as i do), i stumbled upon this partial:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2bobobo$2bobo2bo$4bo$3bo2$4b3o!
it's new but can't be stabilized in 22 bits or less, but it can stabilize itself:

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x = 62, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3o$2bob2obo2bo$5b3o2bo$5bo4bo2bobobobo$12bobo2bob3o$5b2o7bo5b4obo$6bo
6bo11bob3o$6bo16bo5bob2obo2bo$14b3o6b2o7b3o2bo$23b2o7bo4bo2bobobobo$
24b2o13bobo2bob3o$32b2o7bo5b4obo$33bo6bo11bob3o$33bo16bo5bob2obo$41b3o
6b2o7b3o$50b2o7bo$51b2o$59b2o$60bo$60bo!
even better though, it has two ends, so naturally:

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
34bo$3o31bo$2bob2obo2bo22b2o$5b3o2bo$5bo4bo2bobobobo13bo$12bobo2bob3o
7bob3o$5b2o7bo5b4obob3o2bo$6bo6bo11bo6b2o$6bo16bo$14b3o6b2o$6b2o3bo11b
2o6b3o$9b3o12b2o$6bob3o19bo$6bo21bo2bo$5b2o19bo2b2o$5b2o19bo4bo$4b2o
20bo$30b2o$4b2o$9bo20b2o$4bo4bo19b2o$5b2o2bo19b2o$4bo2bo21bo$5bo19b3ob
o$10b2o12b3o$2b3o6b2o11bo3b2o$11b2o6b3o$12bo16bo$2b2o6bo11bo6bo$3bo2b
3obob4o5bo7b2o$2b3obo7b3obo2bobo$2bo13bobobobo2bo4bo$25bo2b3o$b2o22bo
2bob2obo$bo31b3o$bo!
anything with that L can stabilize it:

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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5b2o$5b2o$5bo$b3obo$3o$o3b2o2$5bo5bo$5bo5bo$5b2o3b2o2$b3o2b2ob2o
2b3o$3bobobobobobo$5b2o3b2o2$5b2o3b2o$3bobobobobobo$b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$5b
2o3b2o$5bo5bo$5bo5bo!
as i was writing, this, wwei found a stabilization on caterer! here:

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x = 10, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5b2o$5b2o$5bo$b3obo$3o$o3b2o2$4bo$2bo3b4o$2bo3bo$2bo$5bo$3b2o!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » July 29th, 2021, 1:32 pm

I'm running a few p5 searches, not necessarily useful.
I might edit this post if I get to find anything.

As a start here's a smaller p5 dot fountain, not sure if known

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x = 21, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
10bo2$7bo5bo$10bo$2b2ob3obobob3ob2o$2bo7bo7bo$3bobo2b2ob2o2bobo$3o4b3o
b3o4b3o$o7b2ob2o7bo$5b2o7b2o$6bo3bo3bo$4bobobo3bobobo$8bo3bo$4b3ob5ob
3o3$5bo9bo$2bo2b5ob5o2bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$5b3obobob3o$4bo3bobobo3bo$4b2o
2bo3bo2b2o$7b2o3b2o!
Edit: thanks wwei for letting me know this is called a regular fountain, not a superfountain (I messed up fountain with volcano)

Edit: Here's a somewhat cursed p5, don't think this is worth anything

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x = 14, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$2obo5bo$o8bo$b2o6bo$2bob4o$o2bob2o2bo$5o3bo$9bo$2b2o3b2o$2bo6bo$
3b3o3b2o$5b2o2b2o$3b2o$3bo3bo$4b5o$b3o5bo$bo2b6o$4bobobobo$5bo2bob3o$
2b3o3b2o3bo$2bo8b2o$7bob2o$7b2obo!
Edit: Here's a relative of the p5 heavyweight volcano with more clearance but that is one row longer

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x = 22, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
10b2o2$7bo6bo$2b2o2bo8bo2b2o$o2b4o3b2o3b4o2bo$2o3b5o2b5o3b2o$9b4o$8bo
4bo$b2o3bobo4bobo3b2o$bobobob2o4b2obobobo$3b3o10b3o$2bo2bo2bo4bo2bo2bo
$2bo3bo8bo3bo$obobo2bo6bo2bobobo$2o2b2obo6bob2o2b2o$4bo2bob4obo2bo$6bo
2bo2bo2bo$7b2o4b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » July 30th, 2021, 9:45 am

I've put together a stamp collection of "well-known" (having LifeWiki articles or appeared in some Catagolue soup) oscillators, one of each of the 43 temporal symmetry types, preferably not having mod 1. Feel free to make this even more interesting.

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x = 409, y = 241, rule = B3/S23
34b2o298b2o$35bo25b2o8b2o33bo37b2o189bo$35bobo9b2o12b2o7bo33b3o37bobo
188bobo$14b3o19b2o9bo25bo29bo39bo4bo5bo178b2obobo$12bo32bobo21b2obo30b
2o39bobob2o2b2ob2o18bo156bobobobo$12bo4bo22bo4b2o22b2o49bobo2bo18bo3bo
7bo17bobo48bo75b2o6b2o20bobo2bo2b2o36bo$13bo25bob2o50b3o24b3obob2o25bo
bo17bobobo46bo2bo23bo48bobo6bobo18bo5bo4bo13b3o18bobo$15b2o22bo3bo50bo
24bo6bo46bo3bo17bo8bo16bo2bo2bo22bobo47bo10bo17bo7b4o12bo21bobobo$16bo
23b2obo57bo18bo5b2o16bo7b3o15b2obobobob2o13bob3o2b3obo14bobobobob2o19b
obobo43b2obo10bob2o13bo12b3o8bobobo18bo3bo17b2o$16bo19b2o4bo57b3o40b3o
7bo16bobo5bobo14bo2bo2bo2bo16bo2bo2bo18bo2bo3bo2bo17bo4bo17b2obobo2b2o
2bobob2o12bo5bo5b2o2bo9bo2bo3bo12b2o2bo2b2o14bo2bo$16bo18bobo30b2o49b
2o5bo46b5o20bo2bo22bo5bo14bobob2ob2obobo14b2ob4ob2o18bobobo2bobobo14bo
bo3bobo3bobo10bo5b2obo11bo4bo4bo12bo4bo$35bo9b2o19bob2o21b2o27bo6bo14b
obo30bo49b5o16bo2bo3bo2bo17bo4bo20bobobo2bobobo11bo2b2o5bo5bo11bob2o5b
o10bobob2ob2obobo10bo6bo$34b2o9bobo17bo26bo26b2obob3o14bo7bo3bo95bobob
o43b2obobo2b2o2bobob2o8b3o12bo12bo3bo2bo13bo4bo4bo11bo6bo$47bo20bo7b2o
11b3o29bo2bobo14b2ob2o2b2obobo73bo22bobo44b2obo10bob2o11b4o7bo17bobobo
13b2o2bo2b2o13bo4bo$47b2o17b2o8b2o11bo53bo5bo4bo71bobo22bo48bo10bo13bo
4bo5bo21bo16bo3bo16bo2bo$151bobo73bo72bobo6bobo14b2o2bo2bobo18b3o18bob
obo17b2o$152b2o147b2o6b2o17bobobobo41bobo$328bobob2o43bo$329bobo$331bo
$331b2o6$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6$
18bo40b2o15b2o$18bo40b2o15b2o$18bo16b2o189bo17b2o11b2o$17b2o16b2o189bo
bo15b2o11b2o$15bo209bobo15bo2bo9bo2bo$14bo4bo73bo133bo16bobo9bobo92b2o
3b4o$14bo23b2o52bob2o58bo196b2o2bo4bo$16b3o20b2o8b2o23bo21b2o26b2o16b
3o7bobo70bo6bo10b3o11b3o45b2o42b2obo2bo3bobo$49b2o22bobo17b2o29bobo20b
o4bobo38b2o4b2o4b2o14b2obobo3b2o11bo2bo9bo2bo44bo2bo41b3o4bo3bobo$73bo
bo19b3o21bo4bob2o15b2obob2o42bo2bobo4bobo2bo13b2o2bobo4b2o8bo2bo11bo2b
o43b4o21b2ob2o28bo$40bobo31bo43b2o5bo20bo4b2o18bo5bo15b2o10b2o19bobo2b
o11b2o13b2o42bobo2bobo18bob2o2bo27bo$9b2o3b2o23bo3bo26bo31b3o12bo2bo
27bo4bo16bobo3bobo16b2o6b2o22bo73bo8bo17b2o4bo15b2o7bo2bo$9b2o2bobo2b
2o18bo3bo23b2obobo20b2ob3o2b2o15b3o25bo4bobo17bo2bobo2bo14b2o2b6o2b2o
9bo4b2o20b2o13b2o41bo8bo18bo3bo15bo2bo7b2o$13b3o2b2o17bo3bo23bo6bo15b
7o50bobo4bo19bo3bo15bo2bo8bo2bo8bobo2bobo2b2o14bo2bo11bo2bo41bobo2bobo
18bo4b2o14bo$38bobo23bo6bo25b7o23b3o14bo4bo22b2ob2o16b2o10b2o8bobo4b2o
2b2o15bo2bo9bo2bo44b4o20bo2b2obo14bo$65bobob2o19b2o2b3ob2o26bo2bo15b2o
4bo65bo25b3o11b3o44bo2bo21b2ob2o15bobo3bo4b3o$30b2o34bo20b3o31bo5b2o
19b2obob2o150b2o43bobo3bo2bob2o$10b3o17b2o8b2o20bo56b2obo4bo15bobo4bo
71bo21bobo9bobo92bo4bo2b2o$14bo26b2o18bobo30b3o23bobo20bobo7b3o64b2o
21bo2bo9bo2bo92b4o3b2o$9bo4bo46bobo33b2o22b2o20bo78b2o20b2o11b2o$13bo
48bo31b2o125bo22b2o11b2o$10b2o32b2o50b2obo$10bo33b2o52bo$10bo$10bo2$
59b2o15b2o$59b2o15b2o8$14bo$14bobo23bo$2b2o11bobo21bobo$2b2o11bo2bo3b
2o12b2o2bo2b2o$15bobo4b2o12bob2o4bo45b2o10b2o93bo4bo$14bobo21b2ob2o47b
2o10b2o91b2ob4ob2o17b2o$14bo21bo4b2obo152bo4bo19b2o$36b2o2bo2b2o45bo
12bo66bo7bo$39bobo47bobo10bobo64bobo5bobo$40bo48bo2bo8bo2bo65bo7bo44bo
$90bo2bo6bo2bo94bo4bo18b3o$198bo4bo17bo2bo$90bo2bo3bo2bo2bo67bo5bo19bo
4bo12b2o5b2o$90b2o4bobo3b2o67bo5bo20bobo14b2o$99bo70bobo3bobo19bobo$
98bo72bo5bo50b2o$95bo75bo5bo42b2o5bob2o2b2o$94bo103bobo20bo5bobo3b2o$
90b2o3bobo4b2o94bobo21b2o4bo$90bo2bo2bo3bo2bo93bo4bo20bo$198bo4bo$43bo
46bo2bo6bo2bo94bo4bo$41b2obo44bo2bo8bo2bo65bo7bo$15bobo21bo4bo44bobo
10bobo64bobo5bobo46b2o$14bo23b3o49bo12bo66bo7bo47b2o$9b2o2bo4bo178bo4b
o$9b2obo2bob2o21b3o47b2o10b2o91b2ob4ob2o$13b2o21bo4bo48b2o10b2o93bo4bo
$36bob2o$37bo16$108bo$11b2o5b2o87bobo$11bo7bo78b2o7bobo$8b2obo7bob2o
75b2o6b2ob3o$8bo2b2o5b2o2bo89bo$9b2o6bo2b2o84b2ob3o$11b3o4b2o86b2obo$
11bo4bo2bo77b2o$12b7o79b2o$97b2o$14b3o$13bo3bo$13b2ob2o$109b2o$109b2o
5$81b2o$81b2o4$93b2o$92b2o$13b2o78b2o$13b2ob2o64bob2o$18bo61b3ob2o$13b
2o64bo$13bo66b3ob2o6b2o$11bo2bo3b2o62bobo7b2o$11bo3b5o62bobo$11bo71bo
13$14b2o$8bob2obobo$8b2obobo$12b2o2$14bo4b2o$13bo3bo2bo$13bo4b2o$14bob
o$18b2o$19bo$18bo$18b2o8$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo11$7bo$7b3o$10bo9b2o$9b2o9bo$18bobo$12b2o4b2o$11bo2bo$
14bo$11bo2bo$13bo2$7b2o$6bobo$6bo9b2o$5b2o9bo$17b3o$19bo12$9b2o3b2o$8b
o7bo$11bobo$9b2o3b2o4$23b3o$22b3o$15bo$2b3o9b3o$3b3o$22b3o$23b3o2$3b3o
$2b3o9b3o$15bo3$12b2o3b2o$14bobo$11bo7bo$12b2o3b2o!
Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 30th, 2021, 11:42 am

Here's a p20:

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x = 33, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
17b2o4b2o$16bobo4bobo$16bo8bo$13b2obo8bob2o$14bobo2bo2bo2bobo$13bo2bob
ob2obobo2bo$13bobo2bob2obo2bobo$11b3ob2obo4bob2ob3o$10bo7bo4bo7bo$10bo
2b5o6b5o2bo$9b2obo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bob2o$10bob2o2b3o4b3o2b2obo$10bo5bo8b
o5bo$11b3o3b2o4b2o3b3o$13bo4b6o4bo5$2b2ob2o11bo7b2ob2o$2bo15b2o10bo$3b
2o2bo9bo2bo4bo2b2o$4b3o6b2o3bobo5b3o$4b3o5bobo3b2o6b3o$3b2o2bo4bo2bo9b
o2b2o$2bo10b2o15bo$2b2ob2o7bo11b2ob2o5$4bo4b6o4bo$2b3o3b2o4b2o3b3o$bo
5bo8bo5bo$bob2o2b3o4b3o2b2obo$2obo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bob2o$bo2b5o6b5o2bo$b
o7bo4bo7bo$2b3ob2obo4bob2ob3o$4bobo2bob2obo2bobo$4bo2bobob2obobo2bo$5b
obo2bo2bo2bobo$4b2obo8bob2o$7bo8bo$7bobo4bobo$8b2o4b2o!
And partials:

p18

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x = 22, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
7bob2o4b2obo$7b2o2bo2bo2b2o$5b2o3bo4bo3b2o$4bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$5b3obobo2b
obob3o$7bobob4obobo$9bo2b2o2bo$10b2o2b2o3$8b2o6b2o$8bobo4bobo$9b2o4b2o
$12b2o$7b5o2b5o$6bo12bo$7b3o6b3o$10bo4bo$7b3ob4ob3o$6bo2bo6bo2bo$6b2o
10b2o$10bo4bo$12b2o2$10b2o$9b3o$7bobo2bo$9b2obo$10b2o2$10b2o$9bob2o$9b
o2bobo$10b3o$10b2o2$8b2o$6bo4bo$2b2o10b2o$2bo2bo6bo2bo$3b3ob4ob3o$6bo
4bo$3b3o6b3o$2bo12bo$3b5o2b5o$8b2o$5b2o4b2o$4bobo4bobo$4b2o6b2o3$6b2o
2b2o$5bo2b2o2bo$3bobob4obobo$b3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo
3b2o$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$3bob2o4b2obo!
probably impossible, but p19 in two almost identical ways

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x = 38, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
9bo25bo2$7b3obo21b3obo$7bo3bo21bo3bo5$o3bo20bo3bo$ob3o20bob3o2$2bo24bo!
p20; spark needs to be p20

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x = 25, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$22bobo$19b2obobo$14bo4bobobo$21bo$14b2o3bo2bo$12b2o2bo5bo$b2o12b
2obo3bo$obo8bo6bo3bo$obob2o4bo11bo$bobobo3bo9bo2bo$3bo17bo$2bo2bo9bo3b
obobo$2bo11bo4b2obobo$2bo3bo6bo8bobo$2bo3bob2o12b2o$2bo5bo2b2o$2bo2bo
3b2o$3bo$bobobo4bo$obob2o$obo$b2o!
p30

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x = 22, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2b2o5$3bo$b2ob2o2$o5bo2$2obob2o6$9bo2$7b2o4bo$2b2o3b2o3b3o$2b2o7b
o$11bobo$8b2o2b2o$8bobo$10bo7b2o$7b3o3b2o3b2o$8bo4b2o2$12bo6$15b2obob
2o2$15bo5bo2$16b2ob2o$18bo5$18b2o$18b2o!
p35 (my program doesn't search for banana sparks; what happened is that it tried to domino spark a domino spark, but 3 cells works just as well as 4)

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bo$8b3o2bo$7bo3bo$6b6o$7b2o4$6b2o$3b6o$3bo3bo$bo2b3o$bo$o!
p36

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x = 61, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$2bobo10bo3b2o$2o2b2o8bobobobo$bobo6b2o2bobobo$o2b3o4bobobobo
b2o$obo3bo5bobobo3bo4b2o$bob3ob2o4b2o5bo$3bo10bo5bo5b2o$3bo10bo5bo3bo
3bo28bo$bob3ob2o4b2o5bo8bo26bobo$obo3bo5bobobo3bo2bo4bo11b2o3bo10bobo$
o2b3o4bobobobob2o4b2o14bobobobo8b2o2b2o$bobo6b2o2bobobo23bobobo2b2o6bo
bo$2o2b2o8bobobobo14b2o4b2obobobobo4b3o2bo$2bobo10bo3b2o11bo4bo2bo3bob
obo5bo3bobo$2bobo26bo8bo5b2o4b2ob3obo$3bo28bo3bo3bo5bo10bo$33b2o5bo5bo
10bo$40bo5b2o4b2ob3obo$32b2o6bo3bobobo5bo3bobo$41b2obobobobo4b3o2bo$
42bobobo2b2o6bobo$40bobobobo8b2o2b2o$40b2o3bo10bobo$56bobo$57bo!
p42

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x = 45, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o20b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o20b2o5b2o4$4bobo26bobo2$b3o3b3o7b6o7b3o3b3o$o
9bo5bo6bo5bo9bo$3o5b3o4bo8bo4b3o5b3o$bo7bo6bo6bo6bo7bo$17b6o2$b2o5b2o
20b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o20b2o5b2o$17bo3b2o$16bobobo2bo$14bobobo3bo$17bob2obo
9$22bob2obo$22bo3bobobo$21bo2bobobo$22b2o3bo$6b2o5b2o20b2o5b2o$6b2o5b
2o20b2o5b2o2$22b6o$6bo7bo6bo6bo6bo7bo$5b3o5b3o4bo8bo4b3o5b3o$5bo9bo5bo
6bo5bo9bo$6b3o3b3o7b6o7b3o3b3o2$9bobo26bobo4$6b2o5b2o20b2o5b2o$6b2o5b
2o20b2o5b2o!
p60; spark needs to be p60

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x = 30, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
16bo9bo$25b3o$14b2o8b2ob2o$13bo2bo6b3ob3o$14bobo6b3ob3o$14b3o6b3ob3o$
12bo10b3ob3o$11bobo10b2ob2o$11bobo11b3o$12bo13bo$3bo13bo$2b3o11bobo$b
2ob2o10bobo$3ob3o10bo$3ob3o6b3o$3ob3o6bobo$3ob3o6bo2bo$b2ob2o8b2o$2b3o
$3bo9bo!
p84; the sacrificial blocks need to become something non-sacrificial, and it emits (other) blocks that interfere with the p21s

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x = 61, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
15bo6b2o$14bobo6bo$6bo8bo7bob2o3b2o$5b2ob2obo12bobo4bo$4b2o3bob4o11bob
3o$6bobo6bo9b2obo$9b2o$12bo4bobo$12bobo4bo$21b2o$3bob2o9bo6bobo$b3obo
11b4obo3b2o$o4bobo12bob2ob2o$2o3b2obo7bo8bo$8bo6bobo$8b2o6bo5$31b3o$
30bo2bo$30bo3bo$29bo3bo2b2o$23b2o2bobobobo2b2o$23b2o2bo3bo$26bo3bo$27b
o2bo$27b3o5$44bo6b2o$43bobo6bo$35bo8bo7bob2o3b2o$34b2ob2obo12bobo4bo$
33b2o3bob4o11bob3o$35bobo6bo9b2obo$38b2o$41bo4bobo$41bobo4bo$50b2o$32b
ob2o9bo6bobo$30b3obo11b4obo3b2o$29bo4bobo12bob2ob2o$29b2o3b2obo7bo8bo$
37bo6bobo$37b2o6bo!
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Extrementhusiast » July 30th, 2021, 12:36 pm

muzik wrote:
July 25th, 2021, 1:50 pm
The famed T-nosed P7, can it be constructed?

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RLE
Surprisingly small:

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2ob2ob2o$4bobobo3bo$4bobo2b2o$5bobobob4o$7bo3bo2bo$7b2obo$4bo3bo$4bo
3b2obo$2bo5bob2o$3o2bo$2bo5bob2o$4bo3b2obo$4bo3bo$7b2obo$7bo3bo2bo$5bo
bobob4o$4bobo2b2o$4bobobo3bo$5b2ob2ob2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 30th, 2021, 12:43 pm

Is there any advantage of this over the pipsquirter?

EDIT: another one, this time a p36

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x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
31bo$30bo2bo$30bo2bo$30bo2bo$28bo3bob3o$28b4obo$26b2o4bo4bo$27bob2obob
3o$23b3obob2obo$22bo4bo4b2o$26bob4o$23b3obo3bo$26bo2bo$26bo2bo$26bo2bo
9b2o3bo$28bo9bo2bobobo2bo$38bob2obob4o$37b2obo2bo$37bo4bob2ob2o$37b2o
3bobobo2bo$27bo9b2obobo2bo2b2o$27b3o7b2obobo$10bo9bobo5bo8b2obobo2bo$
4bo4bobo8bo2bo13bo2bo2b3o$4b3o2bobo10bo14b2obobo$7bobob2o14bo10bobo2b
3o$4b3o2bo2bo13bo2bo8bobo4bo$4bo2bobob2o8bo5bobo9bo$7bobob2o7b3o$2o2bo
2bobob2o9bo$o2bobobo3b2o$b2ob2obo4bo$6bo2bob2o$b4obob2obo$bo2bobobo2bo
9bo$5bo3b2o9bo2bo$20bo2bo$20bo2bo$18bo3bob3o$18b4obo$16b2o4bo4bo$17bob
2obob3o$13b3obob2obo$12bo4bo4b2o$16bob4o$13b3obo3bo$16bo2bo$16bo2bo$
16bo2bo$18bo!
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Freywa » July 30th, 2021, 1:15 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 12:36 pm
Surprisingly small:

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2ob2ob2o$4bobobo3bo$4bobo2b2o$5bobobob4o$7bo3bo2bo$7b2obo$4bo3bo$4bo
3b2obo$2bo5bob2o$3o2bo$2bo5bob2o$4bo3b2obo$4bo3bo$7b2obo$7bo3bo2bo$5bo
bobob4o$4bobo2b2o$4bobobo3bo$5b2ob2ob2o!
Now what uses would this new sparker have?
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 30th, 2021, 1:36 pm

Freywa wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 1:15 pm
Now what uses would this new sparker have?
I agree. Every T-nose-specific interaction that I tried destroyed the sparker.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 30th, 2021, 1:45 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 1:36 pm
Freywa wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 1:15 pm
Now what uses would this new sparker have?
I agree. Every T-nose-specific interaction that I tried destroyed the sparker.
This interacts twice in two different ways, only being destroyed the third time. Of course, the period is incompatible, even if it were to be stabilized.

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x = 37, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2ob2ob2o17b2ob2ob2o$2bo3bobobo15bobobo3bo$4b2o2bobo15bobo2b2o$4obobo
bo17bobobob4o$o2bo3bo21bo3bo2bo$4bob2o21b2obo$6bo3bo6b3o6bo3bo$3bob2o
3bo5bo3bo5bo3b2obo$3b2obo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bob2o$9bo2b3obo3bob3o2bo$3b2obo
5bo4b3o4bo5bob2o$3bob2o3bo15bo3b2obo$6bo3bo15bo3bo$4bob2o21b2obo$o2bo
3bo21bo3bo2bo$4obobobo17bobobob4o$4b2o2bobo15bobo2b2o$2bo3bobobo15bobo
bo3bo$2b2ob2ob2o17b2ob2ob2o!
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 30th, 2021, 2:04 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 1:45 pm
This interacts twice in two different ways, only being destroyed the third time. Of course, the period is incompatible, even if it were to be stabilized.
Yes, but it's not T-nose-specific. The first time, anything with a one-bit-edge that simply dies, such as a dot spark, pipsquirted domino spark, or duoplet works, and a pipsquirted domino spark also works the second time.

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x = 16, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7b3o2$2o4bo3bo$o2bo2bo3bo2bobo$3bo2bo3bo2bobo$3bo2bo3bo2bobo$bo4bo3bo
2$7b3o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 30th, 2021, 9:18 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 11:42 am
Here's a p20
hotdogPi wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 12:43 pm
another one, this time a p36
Both of these can be reduced using p4 domino sparkers:

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x = 99, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
86bo$85b2o$84b2o$83bo$82bob4o$81bobo4bo$80b2obob2obo2b2o$79b2o2bob2obo
b2o$83bo4bobo$84b4obo$88bo$12b2o4b2o4b2o60b2o$11bo2bobo4bobo2bo58b2o7b
2o$11b3o10b3o58bo8bobo$14b2o6b2o67b2obobo$13bo2b6o2bo66bobobo$13b2o8b
2o41b2o25bo$66b2o24bo2bo$92bo$64b6o13b2o7bo$2o25b2o34bo2bo3bo11b2obo6b
o4b2o$o2b3o9b3o5b3o2bo34b2o3b2o12b2obo6bo4b2o$b2o12b2obo7b2o40bo15bo7b
o$6bo4bo4bobo3bo43bobo24bobo$6bo3bobo4bo4bo43bobo24bobo$b2o7bob2o12b2o
41bo7bo15bo$o2b3o5b3o9b3o2bo34b2o4bo6bob2o12b2o3b2o$2o25b2o34b2o4bo6bo
b2o11bo3bo2bo$69bo7b2o13b6o$69bo$66bo2bo24b2o$4b2o8b2o52bo25b2o$4bo2b
6o2bo50bobobo$5b2o6b2o50bobob2o$2b3o10b3o47bobo8bo$2bo2bobo4bobo2bo48b
2o7b2o$3b2o4b2o4b2o57b2o$73bo$72bob4o$71bobo4bo$70b2obob2obo2b2o$69b2o
2bob2obob2o$73bo4bobo$74b4obo$78bo$76b2o$75b2o$75bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » July 30th, 2021, 11:47 pm

Has anyone thought of making a p44 pentadecathlon hassler before? I didn't see one in jslife.

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x = 472, y = 316, rule = B3/S23
104b2o6b2o244b2o6b2o$104b2o6b2o244b2o6b2o6$105bo6bo246bo6bo$88b2o14b3o
4b3o14b2o212b2o14b3o4b3o14b2o$87bobo13bo2b2o2b2o2bo13bobo210bobo13bo2b
2o2b2o2bo13bobo$87bobob2o9b4obo2bob4o9b2obobo210bobob2o9b4obo2bob4o9b
2obobo$88bobobo10b5o2b5o10bobobo212bobobo10b5o2b5o10bobobo$90bo15b2o2b
2o15bo216bo15b2o2b2o15bo$89bo2bo32bo2bo214bo2bo32bo2bo$89bo10b2o14b2o
10bo214bo10b2o14b2o10bo$89bo3bo5b3ob3o6b3ob3o5bo3bo214bo3bo5b3ob3o6b3o
b3o5bo3bo$89bo3bo6b2o14b2o6bo3bo214bo3bo6b2o14b2o6bo3bo$89bo38bo214bo
38bo$89bo2bo13b2o2b2o13bo2bo214bo2bo13b2o2b2o13bo2bo$90bo12b5o2b5o12bo
216bo12b5o2b5o12bo$88bobobo9b4obo2bob4o9bobobo212bobobo9b4obo2bob4o9bo
bobo$87bobob2o10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10b2obobo210bobob2o10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10b2obo
bo$87bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo210bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo$88b2o15bo6bo15b2o212b2o
15bo6bo15b2o4$102b2o264b2o$103bo264bo$100b3o266b3o$100bo12bo6bobo226bo
bo6bo12bo$109b2o3bo6bobo224bobo6bo3b2o$105b2o16bo224bo16b2o$105b2o2bo
4bo8b2o222b2o8bo4bo2b2o$110b2o2bo2bo236bo2bo2b2o$113b6o234b6o$113bobob
2o234b2obobo$107b2o254b2o$106bobo6bo240bo6bobo$106bo8bo240bo8bo$105b2o
258b2o6$123bo224bo$124bo222bo$122b3o222b3o9$134bo202bo$135bo200bo$133b
3o200b3o9$145bo180bo$146bo178bo$144b3o178b3o9$156bo158bo$157bo156bo$
155b3o156b3o9$167bo136bo$168bo134bo$166b3o134b3o9$178bo114bo$179bo112b
o$177b3o112b3o6$17b2o6b2o418b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o418b2o6b2o$231b2o6b2o$
189bo41b2o6b2o41bo$190bo90bo$188b3o90b3o3$b2o38b2o386b2o38b2o$obo14b3o
4b3o14bobo384bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo$obob2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2obobo171b2o38b
2o171bobob2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2obobo$bobobo10bo3bo2bo3bo10bobobo171bobo
14b3o4b3o14bobo171bobobo10bo3bo2bo3bo10bobobo$3bo17b2o17bo173bobob2o
11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2obobo173bo17b2o17bo$2b2o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b2o173bobo
bo10bo3bo2bo3bo10bobobo173b2o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b2o$b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b
3o157bo16bo17b2o17bo16bo157b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o$b3o8bo4bo8bo4bo8b3o158b
o14b2o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b2o14bo158b3o8bo4bo8bo4bo8b3o$b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo
8b3o156b3o13b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o13b3o156b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o$b3o10b2o3b
2o2b2o3b2o10b3o172b3o8bo4bo8bo4bo8b3o172b3o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b3o$2b2o
17b2o17b2o173b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o173b2o17b2o17b2o$3bo12bo3bo2bo3bo12bo
174b3o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b3o174bo12bo3bo2bo3bo12bo$bobobo11bo2bo2bo2bo
11bobobo173b2o17b2o17b2o173bobobo11bo2bo2bo2bo11bobobo$obob2o11b3o4b3o
11b2obobo173bo12bo3bo2bo3bo12bo173bobob2o11b3o4b3o11b2obobo$obo38bobo
171bobobo11bo2bo2bo2bo11bobobo171bobo38bobo$b2o38b2o172b2obobo10b3o4b
3o10bobob2o172b2o38b2o$218bobo30bobo$211bo6b2o32b2o6bo$212bo46bo$15b2o
10bo3bo178b3o46b3o178bo3bo10b2o$16bo10bo416bo10bo$13b3o16bo193bo3bo10b
o3bo193bo16b3o$13bo14bo3bob2o194bo10bo194b2obo3bo14bo$18b2o3bob2o7bobo
398bobo7b2obo3b2o$18b2o3bo3bo8bo188bo3bo12bo3bo188bo8bo3bo3b2o$23bo4bo
7b2o186bo6b2obo2bob2o6bo186b2o7bo4bo$24b2o5b2o191bo5bo3bo2bo3bo5bo191b
2o5b2o$26bo3bo193bo4bo4bo2bo4bo4bo193bo3bo$26bo3bo191bo2b2o5b2o4b2o5b
2o2bo191bo3bo$27b3o193bo3bo3bo8bo3bo3bo193b3o$221b3o3bo3bo8bo3bo3b3o$
39b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o11b3o10b3o11b2o20b2o20b2o
20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o$36b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob
2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o36b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b
2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o$36b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o
17b5o17b5o17b5o38b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o$37b3o19b
3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o40b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b
3o19b3o19b3o2$23bob2o202bo12bo202b2obo$21b3ob2o201b3o10b3o201b2ob3o$
20bo206b2ob2o8b2ob2o206bo$21b3ob2o199b3ob3o6b3ob3o199b2ob3o$23bobo200b
3ob3o6b3ob3o200bobo$23bobo200b3ob3o6b3ob3o200bobo$21b3ob2o199b3ob3o6b
3ob3o199b2ob3o$20bo206b2ob2o8b2ob2o206bo$21b3ob2o201b3o10b3o201b2ob3o$
23bob2o202bo12bo202b2obo2$37b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b
3o40b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o$36b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o
17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o38b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o
$36b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3o
b2o36b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b
2ob3o$39b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o11b3o10b3o11b2o20b
2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o$221b3o3bo3bo8bo3bo3b3o$27b3o193b
o3bo3bo8bo3bo3bo193b3o$26bo3bo191bo2b2o5b2o4b2o5b2o2bo191bo3bo$26bo3bo
193bo4bo4bo2bo4bo4bo193bo3bo$24b2o5b2o191bo5bo3bo2bo3bo5bo191b2o5b2o$
23bo4bo7b2o186bo6b2obo2bob2o6bo186b2o7bo4bo$18b2o3bo3bo8bo188bo3bo12bo
3bo188bo8bo3bo3b2o$18b2o3bob2o7bobo398bobo7b2obo3b2o$13bo14bo3bob2o
194bo10bo194b2obo3bo14bo$13b3o16bo193bo3bo10bo3bo193bo16b3o$16bo10bo
416bo10bo$15b2o10bo3bo178b3o46b3o178bo3bo10b2o$212bo46bo$211bo6b2o32b
2o6bo$218bobo30bobo$b2o38b2o172b2obobo10b3o4b3o10bobob2o172b2o38b2o$ob
o38bobo171bobobo11bo2bo2bo2bo11bobobo171bobo38bobo$obob2o11b3o4b3o11b
2obobo173bo12bo3bo2bo3bo12bo173bobob2o11b3o4b3o11b2obobo$bobobo11bo2bo
2bo2bo11bobobo173b2o17b2o17b2o173bobobo11bo2bo2bo2bo11bobobo$3bo12bo3b
o2bo3bo12bo174b3o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b3o174bo12bo3bo2bo3bo12bo$2b2o17b
2o17b2o173b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o173b2o17b2o17b2o$b3o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b
3o172b3o8bo4bo8bo4bo8b3o172b3o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b3o$b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b
3o156b3o13b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o13b3o156b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o$b3o8bo4bo8bo
4bo8b3o158bo14b2o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o10b2o14bo158b3o8bo4bo8bo4bo8b3o$b3o
8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o157bo16bo17b2o17bo16bo157b3o8bo5bo6bo5bo8b3o$2b2o10b2o
3b2o2b2o3b2o10b2o173bobobo10bo3bo2bo3bo10bobobo173b2o10b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o
10b2o$3bo17b2o17bo173bobob2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2obobo173bo17b2o17bo$bobob
o10bo3bo2bo3bo10bobobo171bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo171bobobo10bo3bo2bo3bo10bo
bobo$obob2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2obobo171b2o38b2o171bobob2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b
2obobo$obo14b3o4b3o14bobo384bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo$b2o38b2o386b2o38b2o3$
188b3o90b3o$190bo90bo$189bo41b2o6b2o41bo$231b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o418b2o6b
2o$17b2o6b2o418b2o6b2o6$177b3o112b3o$179bo112bo$178bo114bo9$166b3o134b
3o$168bo134bo$167bo136bo9$155b3o156b3o$157bo156bo$156bo158bo9$144b3o
178b3o$146bo178bo$145bo180bo9$133b3o200b3o$135bo200bo$134bo202bo9$122b
3o222b3o$124bo222bo$123bo224bo6$105b2o258b2o$106bo8bo240bo8bo$106bobo
6bo240bo6bobo$107b2o254b2o$113bobob2o234b2obobo$113b6o234b6o$110b2o2bo
2bo236bo2bo2b2o$105b2o2bo4bo8b2o222b2o8bo4bo2b2o$105b2o16bo224bo16b2o$
109b2o3bo6bobo224bobo6bo3b2o$100bo12bo6bobo226bobo6bo12bo$100b3o266b3o
$103bo264bo$102b2o264b2o4$88b2o15bo6bo15b2o212b2o15bo6bo15b2o$87bobo
14b3o4b3o14bobo210bobo14b3o4b3o14bobo$87bobob2o10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10b2obob
o210bobob2o10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10b2obobo$88bobobo9b4obo2bob4o9bobobo212bobo
bo9b4obo2bob4o9bobobo$90bo12b5o2b5o12bo216bo12b5o2b5o12bo$89bo2bo13b2o
2b2o13bo2bo214bo2bo13b2o2b2o13bo2bo$89bo38bo214bo38bo$89bo3bo6b2o14b2o
6bo3bo214bo3bo6b2o14b2o6bo3bo$89bo3bo5b3ob3o6b3ob3o5bo3bo214bo3bo5b3ob
3o6b3ob3o5bo3bo$89bo10b2o14b2o10bo214bo10b2o14b2o10bo$89bo2bo32bo2bo
214bo2bo32bo2bo$90bo15b2o2b2o15bo216bo15b2o2b2o15bo$88bobobo10b5o2b5o
10bobobo212bobobo10b5o2b5o10bobobo$87bobob2o9b4obo2bob4o9b2obobo210bob
ob2o9b4obo2bob4o9b2obobo$87bobo13bo2b2o2b2o2bo13bobo210bobo13bo2b2o2b
2o2bo13bobo$88b2o14b3o4b3o14b2o212b2o14b3o4b3o14b2o$105bo6bo246bo6bo6$
104b2o6b2o244b2o6b2o$104b2o6b2o244b2o6b2o!
It probably can be improved.



Edit: Yes indeed.

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x = 268, y = 106, rule = B3/S23
17b2o6b2o214b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o214b2o6b2o5$129b2o6b2o$129b2o6b2o$b2o38b
2o182b2o38b2o$obo38bobo180bobo38bobo$obob2o3bobo20bobo3b2obobo180bobob
2o3bobo20bobo3b2obobo$bobobo3bo2bo18bo2bo3bobobo182bobobo3bo2bo18bo2bo
3bobobo$3bo5bo24bo5bo186bo5bo24bo5bo$2b2o5b2o22b2o5b2o184b2o5b2o22b2o
5b2o$b3o6b2o7bob2obo7b2o6b3o70b2o38b2o70b3o6b2o7bob2obo7b2o6b3o$b3o9bo
bo2b2ob2ob2o2bobo9b3o69bobo15bo6bo15bobo69b3o9bobo2b2ob2ob2o2bobo9b3o$
b3o10bo4bob2obo4bo10b3o69bobob2o11b3o4b3o11b2obobo69b3o10bo4bob2obo4bo
10b3o$b3o36b3o70bobobo10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10bobobo70b3o36b3o$2b2o36b2o73bo
12b3obo2bob3o12bo73b2o36b2o$3bo36bo73bo2bo8b2obob2o2b2obob2o8bo2bo73bo
36bo$bobobo32bobobo71bo10bo2bo10bo2bo10bo71bobobo32bobobo$obob2o32b2ob
obo70bo3bo5b6o8b6o5bo3bo70bobob2o32b2obobo$obo26bo11bobo70bo3bo6bo2bo
10bo2bo6bo3bo70bobo11bo26bobo$b2o25bob2o9b2o71bo11b2obob2o2b2obob2o11b
o71b2o9b2obo25b2o$32bo81bo2bo10b3obo2bob3o10bo2bo81bo$28b2o85bo12bo2b
2o2b2o2bo12bo85b2o$30b3o80bobobo11b3o4b3o11bobobo80b3o$15b2o7bo88b2obo
bo11bo6bo11bobob2o88bo7b2o$16bo11bo87bobo30bobo87bo11bo$13b3o13bo86b2o
32b2o86bo13b3o$13bo10b2o2bo5b2o196b2o5bo2b2o10bo$18b2o3bo4bo5bobo194bo
bo5bo4bo3b2o$18b2o2b2o2b2o8bo87bo18bo87bo8b2o2b2o2b2o$23b2o11b2o86bo2b
2o10b2o2bo86b2o11b2o$125b4o10b4o$124b2o16b2o$124b3o14b3o$123bob3o2b2o
4b2o2b3obo$122b3obobob3o2b3obobob3o$31b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o2b2o2bo2b
2o4b2o2bo2b2o2b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o$28b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o
16b3ob2o2bo5bo6bo5bo2b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o$28b5o17b5o
17b5o17b5o17b5o4b5o8b5o4b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o$29b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o
19b3o6b3o10b3o6b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o$127bo12bo$23bob2o214b2obo$21b3o
b2o214b2ob3o$20bo226bo$21b3ob2o214b2ob3o$23bobo101bo12bo101bobo$23bobo
100bobo10bobo100bobo$24bo100bo3bo8bo3bo100bo$125bo3bo8bo3bo$125bo3bo8b
o3bo$125bo3bo8bo3bo$125bo3bo8bo3bo$24bo100bo3bo8bo3bo100bo$23bobo100bo
bo10bobo100bobo$23bobo101bo12bo101bobo$21b3ob2o214b2ob3o$20bo226bo$21b
3ob2o214b2ob3o$23bob2o214b2obo$127bo12bo$29b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o6b3o
10b3o6b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o$28b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o17b5o4b5o8b5o4b5o17b
5o17b5o17b5o17b5o$28b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o16b3ob2o2bo5bo6bo5bo
2b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o16b2ob3o$31b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o2b2o
2bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o2b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o$122b3obobob3o2b3obobob3o$
123bob3o2b2o4b2o2b3obo$124b3o14b3o$124b2o16b2o$125b4o10b4o$23b2o11b2o
86bo2b2o10b2o2bo86b2o11b2o$18b2o2b2o2b2o8bo87bo18bo87bo8b2o2b2o2b2o$
18b2o3bo4bo5bobo194bobo5bo4bo3b2o$13bo10b2o2bo5b2o196b2o5bo2b2o10bo$
13b3o13bo86b2o32b2o86bo13b3o$16bo11bo87bobo30bobo87bo11bo$15b2o7bo88b
2obobo11bo6bo11bobob2o88bo7b2o$30b3o80bobobo11b3o4b3o11bobobo80b3o$28b
2o85bo12bo2b2o2b2o2bo12bo85b2o$32bo81bo2bo10b3obo2bob3o10bo2bo81bo$b2o
25bob2o9b2o71bo11b2obob2o2b2obob2o11bo71b2o9b2obo25b2o$obo26bo11bobo
70bo3bo6bo2bo10bo2bo6bo3bo70bobo11bo26bobo$obob2o32b2obobo70bo3bo5b6o
8b6o5bo3bo70bobob2o32b2obobo$bobobo32bobobo71bo10bo2bo10bo2bo10bo71bob
obo32bobobo$3bo36bo73bo2bo8b2obob2o2b2obob2o8bo2bo73bo36bo$2b2o36b2o
73bo12b3obo2bob3o12bo73b2o36b2o$b3o36b3o70bobobo10bo2b2o2b2o2bo10bobob
o70b3o36b3o$b3o10bo4bob2obo4bo10b3o69bobob2o11b3o4b3o11b2obobo69b3o10b
o4bob2obo4bo10b3o$b3o9bobo2b2ob2ob2o2bobo9b3o69bobo15bo6bo15bobo69b3o
9bobo2b2ob2ob2o2bobo9b3o$b3o6b2o7bob2obo7b2o6b3o70b2o38b2o70b3o6b2o7bo
b2obo7b2o6b3o$2b2o5b2o22b2o5b2o184b2o5b2o22b2o5b2o$3bo5bo24bo5bo186bo
5bo24bo5bo$bobobo3bo2bo18bo2bo3bobobo182bobobo3bo2bo18bo2bo3bobobo$obo
b2o3bobo20bobo3b2obobo180bobob2o3bobo20bobo3b2obobo$obo38bobo180bobo
38bobo$b2o38b2o182b2o38b2o$129b2o6b2o$129b2o6b2o5$17b2o6b2o214b2o6b2o$
17b2o6b2o214b2o6b2o!
Can it be improved further?
I am tentatively considering myself back.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 31st, 2021, 1:17 am

MathAndCode wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 11:47 pm
Has anyone thought of making a p44 pentadecathlon hassler before? I didn't see one in jslife....

Can it be improved further?
It can be supported by Jason's p44:

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x = 88, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
12b2o60b2o$5b2o6bo60bo6b2o$6bo6bob2o22b2o6b2o22b2obo6bo$2o2bo7b2o2bo
22bo8bo22bo2b2o7bo2b2o$o3b2o5bo2b2o21bobo8bobo21b2o2bo5b2o3bo$b3o2bo3b
o2b2o18b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o18b2o2bo3bo2b3o$3bobobo2bobo2bo17b2o18b2o17bo2b
obo2bobobo$3bob2obobobo2bo56bo2bobobob2obo$7b2o5b2o56b2o5b2o$4b2o2b2o
2bob2o16b3o4b2o6b2o4b3o16b2obo2b2o2b2o$3b3o9bo7b2o7bo2bo2bo2bo4bo2bo2b
o2bo7b2o7bo9b3o$13b3o6b3o11bobo2bo4bo2bobo11b3o6b3o$2bobo7bo2bo4b2o2b
2o6bo2bo2bo2bo4bo2bo2bo2bo6b2o2b2o4bo2bo7bobo$2b2o5bo2bo19b3o4b2o6b2o
4b3o19bo2bo5b2o$8bobobo2bo56bo2bobobo$2b2o5bo2bo19b3o18b3o19bo2bo5b2o$
2bobo7bo2bo4b2o2b2o6bo2bo16bo2bo6b2o2b2o4bo2bo7bobo$13b3o6b3o11bo14bo
11b3o6b3o$3b3o9bo7b2o7bo2bo16bo2bo7b2o7bo9b3o$4b2o2b2o2bob2o16b3o18b3o
16b2obo2b2o2b2o$7b2o5b2o56b2o5b2o$3bob2obobobo2bo56bo2bobobob2obo$3bob
obo2bobo2bo17b2o18b2o17bo2bobo2bobobo$b3o2bo3bo2b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o2bo
3bo2b3o$o3b2o5bo2b2o56b2o2bo5b2o3bo$2o2bo7b2o2bo54bo2b2o7bo2b2o$6bo6bo
b2o54b2obo6bo$5b2o6bo60bo6b2o$12b2o60b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » July 31st, 2021, 4:24 pm

reduced form of one of my co-discovered ones

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x = 25, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
ob2ob2ob2obo$2obob2obob2o2$4b4o$2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo2bobobo$2bob2obobo$b
o2bo2bob2o$bo2bob2o$6bo$6bo$3bo2bo$3b3o$b2obo3bobo$o2b2o2b3obo$ob3o3bo
bo6bo$bo6b3o4b3o$9bo4bo$9bo4b2o4b2o$20bo$8b3o7bobo$18b2o$6b2o$6bo8b2o$
6bo3bo3bo2bo$7b2obo3bobo2$8bobo3bob2o$7bo2bo3bo3bo$8b2o8bo$17b2o$5b2o$
4bobo7b3o$4bo$3b2o4b2o4bo$10bo4bo$7b3o4b3o6bo$7bo6bobo3b3obo$13bob3o2b
2o2bo$14bobo3bob2o$19b3o$18bo2bo$18bo$18bo$17b2obo2bo$14b2obo2bo2bo$
15bobob2obo$13bobobo2bobobo$13b2o2bo2bo2b2o$17b4o2$13b2obob2obob2o$13b
ob2ob2ob2obo!
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by muzik » July 31st, 2021, 5:05 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
July 30th, 2021, 12:43 pm
Is there any advantage of this over the pipsquirter?
Population, I assume?

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