Nice. They even get rid of the first natural glider. I checked the conduit list and saw that there weren't any conduits that converted a dove into something besides a glider (which is why I was looking for such conduits), but I just remembered that it only lists stable conduits, so what we found may not be new. I'm sorry if I turn out to have wasted your time.Extrementhusiast wrote: ↑November 4th, 2020, 6:27 pmAlthough they use a different spark, P4 and P6 oscillators that suffice are in jslife:

P5 didn't have any working examples, so I found something myself:

By the way, do I have a particular knack for finding Herschel sequences that did not come from B sequences twenty generations earlier, or are there other conduits like this that were already known? The page dependent conduit says that Fx158 is the only conduit that doesn't make the Herschel from its standard great-grandparent, but it could be inaccurate or outdated.

MathAndCode wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2020, 5:49 pmAlso, I saw the Herschel's grandchild in the ash.Here is the Herschel isolated.Code: Select all

`x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 2o$b2o$bo3$9b2o$9bo$10b3o$12bo! #C [[ PASTEMODE COPY ]] #C [[ PASTET 29 PASTE b! 6 -2 ]]`

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`x = 17, y = 11, rule = B3/S23 15b2o$2o13b2o$b2o$bo3$9b2o$9b2o2$6b2o$6b2o! #C [[ PASTEMODE COPY ]] #C [[ PASTET 29 PASTE b! 6 -1 ]]`

MathAndCode wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 4:05 pmI was wrong.MathAndCode wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 3:41 pmI doubt that it would be possible to get a conduit out of this (although that's what I thought last time).Code: Select all

`x = 19, y = 13, rule = TripleB3S23 17.2G$17.2G5$12.2G$11.2G$12.G2$.G$G.G$AGD! #C [[ PASTEMODE COPY ]] #C [[ RLE empty 4.$4.! ]] #C [[ PASTET 30 ]] #C [[ PASTE empty -1 10 ]]`

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`x = 36, y = 31, rule = B3/S23 2o$bo$bobo$2b2o2$9bo15b2o$9b3o13bo$10bo15bo$25b2o2$32b2o$32bo$33bo$32b2o2$19bo2bo9b2o$17b2o4b2o6bobo$19bo2bo9bo$22b2ob2o6b3o$24b2ob2o6bo$22bo2bo$20b3o3b3o$22bo$22b2obo$23bo2bo$26bo$23bo2bo$24b2o2b2o$28bobo$30bo$30b2o!`

Another edit: I somehow made a Herschel going in the opposite direction (although it's definitely useless unless, at the very least, someone finds a more compact V-sparker).Code: Select all

`x = 45, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory 2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A12.3D$17.D$15.3D8$18.C15.2A$18.3C13.A$19.C15.A$34.2A2$41.2A$41.A$42.A$41.2A2$28.A2.A9.2A$26.2A4.2A6.A.A$16.3D.D7.A2.A9.A$17.3D11.2A.2A6.3A$17.3D13.2A.2A6.A$31.A2.A$29.3A3.3A$31.A$17.2A12.2A.A$17.2A13.A2.A$35.A$32.A2.A$33.2A2.2A$37.A.A$39.A$39.2A!`

MathAndCode wrote: ↑October 25th, 2020, 7:41 pmI was wondering what common but not extensively searched methuselahs to search for conduits for, so I tried seeing how this played out.To my surprise, it makes two Hershcels minus their first natural gliders, which I had been wondering about ways to make a while back. I decided to look for predecessors, and after finding 3b2o$b2obo$ob2o$2o. I continued looking for predecessors and found this instead.Code: Select all

`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 3o$o2bo$bo2bo$2b3o!`

I then tried to find paperclip predecessors with less than ten cells based on this, and while I did not find any, I did find this.Code: Select all

`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 2b3o$3b2o$2o$3o!`

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`x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23 bo$bobo$3bo$4bo$2o2bo$bo$2bo!`

Edit: I just found this when I was trying to remember a partial ∏-to-LOM conduit.Code: Select all

`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 bo$bo$ob3o$bo!`

MathAndCode wrote: ↑November 4th, 2020, 12:02 pmLook at the boat (or rather, what becomes of the boat) starting at generation 128.Code: Select all

`x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 14b2o$14bo$bo10bobo$obo9b2o$2o5$14b2o$8bo5b2o$7b3o$7bo!`

Edit: I just realized that it's not just some random collision of a glider with a boat and block but rather a wing plus block reaction, so it doesn't seem so useless now.

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```
x = 17, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7b3o$6bo$6b2o3$3b2o$2bob2o$2bo4bo$3b2o4bo$4bo3bo3$b2o4b2o3$bo3bo$o4b2o$2bo4bo$4b2obo$5b2o3$2b2o$3bo$3o$o5$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4bo$4b2o4$8b3o4b2o$10bo4b2o$8b3o7$6bo$5bobo$5b2o!
```

Edit: This looks significantly harder.

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```
x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$bo2bo$o2bo$3o5$9b2o$9b2o!
#C [[ PASTET 57 PASTE o! -9 0 ]]
#C [[ T 59 PAUSE 0.5 ]]
```