31c/240 caterpillar working notes

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 1:28 pm

codeholic wrote:Dave, have you tried to feed this seed to the compiler you wrote for the replicator?
I'll get around to that shortly -- shouldn't take too long to find a construction for three blocks.
dvgrn wrote:At some point I might attempt a set of forward and backward rakes with 62 cells between the pairs. This one is ten cells too narrow -- 54:92:54:104:54.
62 cells is too far apart for the 2H climber reaction to work. Any spacing from 54 to 59 will work fine -- but odd spacings turn out to cause trouble for the kickback reaction that suppresses output gliders at the edges. It's perfectly possible to mix odd and even spacings, but there doesn't seem to be any particularly good reason to do that.

So I went back to the original spacing of 58, but kept the block trails aligned. The simplest design I could come up with is a set of six trails with 58:100:58:100:58 spacing. Here's the rephaser:

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#C 58:100:58:100:58 31c/240 +9 (or -22) rephaser
x = 384, y = 427, rule = B3/S23
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$327b
3o$328bo$326b3o6$9b3o42b3o105b2o56b2o148b3o$10b2o41bo2bo105b2o56b2o
147bo2bo$8bo3b2o39b2obo312b2obo$2b2o4bobob2o50b2o252b2o60b2o$2b2o3b2o
3b2o50b2o252b2o8b2o50b2o$8b2o318b2o3$64bo315bo$62bobo313bobo$63b2o252b
o61b2o$316bobo$315bo3bo$13b2o300bo3bo$2o64b2o251bo62b2o$2o64b2o248b3o
63b2o$366b2o$365bobo$367bo3$21b2o$4b2o14b2o40b2o256b2o56b2o$4b2o16bo
39b2o256b2o56b2o8$164b3o$161b2o2b4o50bobo$161b5obobo48bo2bob2o$160bo6b
2o49bo2bob2o$12b2o40b2o104b3o2b6o51b2obo102b2o40b2o$12b2o40b2o104bob2o
bobob2o45bo5b4o102b2o40b2o$167bo2bo43b2o$162b2o2b4o44bo6b2o$214b3obob
2o3bo$178b2o40b5o$178bo2bo39bo$153b2o23b3o$149bob2o2b2o15b2o$148bo2bo
5b2o$148bo4b2o69b2o80b2o$149b3obo4bo4bo60b2o79bobo$151bob2o4bo147bo$
111bo41b2o2bo2bo2bo$112b2o43bo$81b2o28b2o44bobo$80b2o76bo$82bo57bo$4b
2o56b2o75bo22b2o56b2o44bo53b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o75b3o20b2o56b2o44bobo51b
2o56b2o$266b2o2$247bo$248b2o$247b2o7$170b2o40b2o$170b2o40b2o10$191bo$
192b2o$191b2o3$186bo$186bobo$4b2o56b2o98b2o22b2o32b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$170b2o40b2o$170b2o40b2o17$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o!
Shifting the Herschel pair two ticks forward on the left track or the right track will liberate a backward glider on that side. The block trails are symmetrical and reasonably well aligned, so either forward or backward glider streams can pass through the blocks on nine different lanes.

There are a lot of ways for output gliders from these backward rakes to interact with each other, and also with fading debris from the Herschel climbers and from block annihilations in each trail. Can anyone see a way to put together a forward rake with less than twelve block trails?

If the LWSSes are constructed with slow salvos, the spaceship only needs one forward rake on each side, I think -- and it may be possible to avoid forward rakes altogether, with the right helix design. Wouldn't it be possible to set up a stream of LWSSes that keeps a glider, or several gliders, bouncing back and forth at the front of the spaceship? That reaction could produce both the initial target blocks for later slow-salvo synthesis of the LWSSes, and a forward glider to be split and reflected into more forward gliders to build the block trails.

If that worked out, the spaceship might only need the above six block trails. If forward rakes turn out to be worth the extra trails, then we'll need twelve trails (unless I'm forgetting something else) -- at least until someone comes up with a better idea than this for a forward rake:

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#C 58:100:58:100:58 : 312 : 58:100:58:100:58 forward rake
x = 1083, y = 1268, rule = B3/S23
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o18$55b2o$54b3o$54bo2bo
$54b2ob2o$54b2ob2o$53b2ob2o$54bo273bo$12bo42b3o269b3o$11b3o42bo269bo2b
o$10b2obo312b2o$13b2o312bo$13b2o314b2o$13b2o147b2o56b2o105b4o359b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10bo151b2o56b2o104bo2bo41b2o317b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o316bo40bo2bo$2b2o7bobo50b2o252b2o51bo8b2o$2b2o7bo2bo
39b2o8b2o252b2o7bobo38bo2bo8b2o$12b2o40b2o272b2o38b2o2bo$66bo311bo$65b
obo302b3o3bobo$64bo312b2o$65bo3bo$2bo62bo4bo246bo$2o69bo244bobo$2o314b
obo$66bo250b2o$2bo11b2o53bo246b3o63b2o$2o11b2o367b2o$15bo6$4b2o56b2o
256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o7$161b2o57bo$160b2obo55b4o467b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$161bobo50bo7bo467b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
158bo5bo48bo3bo3b3o$157bo3bob2o48b5o3b4o$12b2o40b2o101bobob2o51bo6bo3b
o102b2o40b2o$12b2o40b2o158b3o2bobo106b2o40b2o$171bo45bobobob2o$171bo
46bo3bo$171bo2$203b3o$204bo$74b2o128bo$73b2o128b3o$75bo82b2o64b2o$158b
2o64bo2bo2bo194bo$226bo3bo195b2o$226b4o195b2o$229bo$229bo$228bo39bo$
227b2o39bobo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o46b2o50b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$118bo125bobo$119b2o124b2o$118b2o125bo2$133bo$132bo$132b3o$690b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$170b2o40b
2o$170b2o40b2o3$323b3o$322bo2bo$322bo3bo$321bo2b3o$54b3o265b4o44b3o$
53bo3bo311bo3bo$58bo315bo$326bobo$53b2o3bo268b2o40b2o3bo$55b3o131bo
137bo43b3o$188bo$12bo175b3o$11b3o$10b2o2bo$10bo3bo147b2o34bo21b2o$10bo
bo149b2o35b2o19b2o$198b2o$2b2o7b2ob2o48b2o314b2o$2b2o9bo40b2o8b2o262b
2o40b2o8b2o$54b2o272b2o40b2o3$66bo315bo$3bo61b3o313b3o306b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$b2o61b2ob2o303b2o6b2ob2o305b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$2b2o59bo307bobo5bo$62bo4bob2o302bo4bo4bob2o$62bo4bobo100b2o40b2o
164bo4bobo$2o61bo4bo101b2o40b2o165bo4bo$2o13b2o$14b2o$16bo5$4b2o56b2o
256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o7$162b2o$160bo$158bo3bo$158bobo2bo59bo
$162b2o53bo5bo$12b2o40b2o101b2o57bo5b3o103b2o40b2o$12b2o40b2o101bo7bo
2bo47bobo109b2o40b2o$171bo44b2o4b3o$162bo8bo39b3o9bo$158bobobo8bo140b
2o$161b4o3bo142bobo376b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$158bo3bo150bo376b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$159bobo2$75b2o$74b2o82b2o64b2o$76bo81b2o64b
2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o105bo$4b2o56b2o53bo44b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o106b2o$118b2o365b2o$117b2o2$134bo$133bo126bo$133b3o124bobo$260b2o2$
253bo$254b2o$253b2o$170b2o40b2o$170b2o40b2o4$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o11$197bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o34b2o20b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o33b2o21b2o98b2o56b2o3$180bo$180bobo$180b2o
7$170b2o40b2o$170b2o40b2o4$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o10$545bo$546b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o165b2o$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o12$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o8$
605bo$606b2o$605b2o2$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o12$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
17$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o17$690b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o156b2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2obo54b2o$1006bo2b2o$
1006bo2b5o$750bo255bobo3bo$749bobo254b3o2bobo52bo$748bo4b2o251b3o2bobo
51b3o$667bo24b2o49bo5bobobobo255bobo6b2o47b3o$668b2o19bo4bo48b2o8bob2o
256bo6b4o34b2o6bo2bobo$667b2o14b2o4bo5bo40bo2bo2bobo10b3o260b2o3b2o28b
o5b2o$682bo2bo3bob2ob2o34b3o3bo3bo14b3o259bob3ob3o21b2o4b2o2bobo12b2o$
678bo4bob2o15b4o30bo2b2o14bo2bo239b2o16b2obo27bo4bo2b4obo11b2o$677bo5b
obo6bo8b2ob2o37b3o8b3ob2o233bo4bo19bo28bo2b3o4b3o12bobo$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o297b3o2b3o7bo7b2o2bo2bo22bo3bo8b3o8b3ob2o233bo5bo47b7o
3b2obo11b3o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o302bo10bo7bo3b3o23bo2bo2bo4bo
bo10bo2bo234b3ob3ob2o49b2o4b2o12b3o$694b2o6bo2bo2bo24bo3bo4b2o251bob3o
b2o2b2o45b2o5bo11bo$693bo12bobo45b3o8bo229bo4b3o4bo62b2o8bobo$694b2o
10b2o58b2o236bobo74b2o$765b2o234bob3o75bo$1002bo$985bo93b3o$984bo96bo$
690b2o56b2o234b3o19b2o56b2o14bo$690b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o8$848b2o56b2o$
848b2o56b2o3$698b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$698b2o9bo30b2o272b2o40b2o$710b2o$
709b2o2$1041bo$724bo315bo$724bobo313b3o$724b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o654bo$1035b2o$1034b2o2$1019b3o$
1021bo$1020bo$899bo$690b2o56b2o148bobo105b2o56b2o$690b2o56b2o147bo3bo
104b2o56b2o$898bo2bo$898bo2bo$899bobo3$856bo$855b3o$854bo2b2o$854bo3bo
$855b2obo$846b2o9b2o49b2o$698b2o40b2o104b2o50b2o8b2o104b2o40b2o$698b2o
40b2o156b2o114b2o40b2o4$846bobo61bo$846b2o61b3o$847bo60b2o2bo$907b2o2b
3o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o526b3o3bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o464b2o$844b2o64bo$959b3o$961bo$960bo4$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$690b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$856b2o40b2o$856b2o40b2o2$1010bo$
1009b3o$1008bo2b2o$1007b4obo$741bo265bo4bo44bo$740b3o265b2o2bo43b3o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o360b4o265b2o45b4o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$1014bo$740b4o268bobo41b4o$740b4o269b2o41b4o$742bo315bo$697b3o$
696bo2bo$696bo3bo$695b2o2bo148b2o56b2o$697bo150b2o56b2o$698b2o$688b2o
8b3o49b2o314b2o$688b2o8b3o39b2o8b2o262b2o40b2o8b2o$740b2o272b2o40b2o3$
751b3o313b3o$688bo61bo3bo311bo3bo$687bo62b2ob2o303b2o6b2ob2o$687b3o59b
2ob2obo303b2o4b2ob2obo$748b2o5b2o301bo5b2o5b2o$748b2o3bob2o307b2o3bob
2o$686b2o66bo315bo$686b2o12b3o$700bo$701bo5$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o310b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o
256b2o56b2o8$847b3o$847bo$845bobobo$843b3o2b2o$698b2o40b2o101b2o57bo5b
3o103b2o40b2o$698b2o40b2o101b2o56b2o111b2o40b2o$898bo3b2o4b3o$847bo8b
3o39bo9b3o$898bo99b2o$845bo153b2o$846bo151bo3$760b3o$760bo83b2o64b2o$
761bo82b2o64b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o54bo43b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$805bo$803b3o3$819bobo125bo$819b2o124b2o$820bo125b2o2$940bo$941bo$
939b3o$856b2o40b2o$856b2o40b2o16$884bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
310b2o56b2o98b2o35bo20b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b
2o56b2o98b2o33b3o20b2o98b2o56b2o3$867bo$865b2o$866b2o7$856b2o40b2o$
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 3:02 pm

The smallest 31c/240 helix with one output glider I could find consists of 5 lightweight spaceships. I built it out of curiosity yesterday.

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x = 38, y = 316, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18bobo$12b3o3bo$11bo2bo$14bo$14bo$11bobo3$6b3o$5bo2bo$8bo$8bo$5b
obo3$2bo$b3o$2obo$3o$b2o20$28b3o$27bo2bo$30bo$30bo$27bobo5b3o$34bo2bo$
37bo$37bo$34bobo43$12b3o$11bo2bo$14bo$14bo$11bobo3$6b3o$5bo2bo$8bo$8bo
$5bobo3$2bo$b3o$2obo$3o$b2o20$28b3o$27bo2bo$30bo$30bo$27bobo5b3o$34bo
2bo$37bo$37bo$34bobo43$12b3o$11bo2bo$14bo$14bo$11bobo3$6b3o$5bo2bo$8bo
$8bo$5bobo3$2bo$b3o$2obo$3o$b2o20$28b3o$27bo2bo$30bo$30bo$27bobo5b3o$
34bo2bo$37bo$37bo$34bobo43$12b3o$11bo2bo$14bo$14bo$11bobo3$6b3o$5bo2bo
$8bo$8bo$5bobo3$2bo$b3o$2obo$3o$b2o20$28b3o$27bo2bo$30bo$30bo$27bobo5b
3o$34bo2bo$37bo$37bo$34bobo!
But hopefully, it won't be needed. How about launching forward gliders also with slow salvos?
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 4:05 pm

dvgrn wrote:Shouldn't take too long to find a construction for three blocks.
Here's a sixteen-glider construction:

m-3,-1:E-9 E-1 O11 O-13 O5 O23 E-29 E-13 E-15 E-41 E-11 E-25 E-23 E23 E27 E11

Quite possibly it can be done in fifteen or less, but that will take some serious searching. This was just picked out by hand from the truncated block-move table. I made a version of the table that's sorted by the dx, dy between the two output blocks, so it's easy to build two blocks at once -- but I haven't figured out exactly how to explain this trick to the compiler yet...!

Here's a trial run for the slow-salvo construction -- looks like it will work great. The real slow salvo will arrive much slower -- won't we need about fifteen rephasers between rakes, on average? But I don't see any technical problems yet.

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x = 2703, y = 2853, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o89$61bo$62bo$60b3o57$143bo$144bo$142b3o30$121bo$122bo$120b3o
57$203bo$204bo$202b3o30$181bo$182bo$180b3o25$295bo$296bo$294b3o30$263b
o$264bo$262b3o30$241bo$242bo$240b3o25$355bo$356bo$354b3o30$323bo$324bo
$322b3o25$468bo$469bo$467b3o3$301bo$302bo$300b3o25$415bo$416bo$414b3o
30$383bo$384bo$382b3o25$528bo$529bo$527b3o30$475bo$476bo$474b3o25$619b
o$620bo$618b3o3$443bo$444bo$442b3o25$588bo$589bo$587b3o30$535bo$536bo$
534b3o25$679bo$680bo$678b3o30$648bo$649bo$647b3o25$762bo$763bo$761b3o
3$595bo$596bo$594b3o25$739bo$740bo$738b3o30$708bo$709bo$707b3o25$822bo
$823bo$821b3o30$799bo$800bo$798b3o25$927bo$928bo$926b3o3$768bo$769bo$
767b3o25$882bo$883bo$881b3o30$859bo$860bo$858b3o25$987bo$988bo$986b3o
30$942bo$943bo$941b3o25$1064bo$1065bo$1063b3o3$919bo$920bo$918b3o25$
1047bo$1048bo$1046b3o30$1002bo$1003bo$1001b3o25$1124bo$1125bo$1123b3o
30$1107bo$1108bo$1106b3o25$1213bo$1214bo$1212b3o3$1062bo$1063bo$1061b
3o25$1184bo$1185bo$1183b3o30$1167bo$1168bo$1166b3o25$1273bo$1274bo$
1272b3o30$1244bo$1245bo$1243b3o25$1371bo$1372bo$1370b3o3$1227bo$1228bo
$1226b3o25$1333bo$1334bo$1332b3o30$1304bo$1305bo$1303b3o25$1431bo$
1432bo$1430b3o30$1393bo$1394bo$1392b3o25$1494bo$1495b2o$1494b2o3$1364b
o$1365bo$1363b3o25$1491bo$1492bo$1490b3o30$1453bo$1454bo$1452b3o25$
1554bo$1555b2o$1554b2o30$1551bo$1552bo$1550b3o25$1653bo$1654b2o$1653b
2o3$1513bo$1514bo$1512b3o25$1614bo$1615b2o$1614b2o30$1611bo$1612bo$
1610b3o25$1713bo$1714b2o$1713b2o30$1674bo$1675b2o$1674b2o25$1812bo$
1813b2o$1812b2o3$1671bo$1672bo$1670b3o25$1773bo$1774b2o$1773b2o30$
1734bo$1735b2o$1734b2o25$1872bo$1873b2o$1872b2o30$1833bo$1834b2o$1833b
2o25$1950bo$1951b2o$1950b2o3$1794bo$1795b2o$1794b2o25$1932bo$1933b2o$
1932b2o30$1893bo$1894b2o$1893b2o25$2010bo$2011b2o$2010b2o30$1992bo$
1993b2o$1992b2o25$2107bo$2108bo$2106b3o3$1953bo$1954b2o$1953b2o25$
2070bo$2071b2o$2070b2o30$2052bo$2053b2o$2052b2o25$2167bo$2168bo$2166b
3o30$2130bo$2131b2o$2130b2o25$2261bo$2262bo$2260b3o3$2112bo$2113b2o$
2112b2o25$2227bo$2228bo$2226b3o30$2190bo$2191b2o$2190b2o25$2321bo$
2322bo$2320b3o30$2287bo$2288bo$2286b3o30$2250bo$2251b2o$2250b2o25$
2381bo$2382bo$2380b3o30$2347bo$2348bo$2346b3o57$2441bo$2442bo$2440b3o
30$2407bo$2408bo$2406b3o14$2576b2o$2576b2o42$2501bo$2502bo$2500b3o89$
2561bo$2562bo$2560b3o20$2701b2o$2701b2o30$2701b2o$2701b2o30$2701b2o$
2701b2o30$2701b2o$2701b2o30$2701b2o$2701b2o!

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 4:58 pm

codeholic wrote:How about launching forward gliders also with slow salvos?
It's even easier to produce a forward glider stream with kicking back a backward glider stream by another backward glider stream coming from the other caterpillar unit.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 5:24 pm

codeholic wrote:
codeholic wrote:How about launching forward gliders also with slow salvos?
It's even easier to produce a forward glider stream with kicking back a backwarWid glider stream by another backward glider stream coming from the other caterpillar unit.
Will there even have to be a second caterpillar unit, though? Seems to me we're close to being able to get away with building just one caterpillar unit with six block trails. Both left- and right-firing backward rakes can run on the same six trails.

How about a 31c/240 *WSS helix that produces backward gliders instead of forward ones? It looks like it will be a good bit easier to construct the front of the spaceship if the construction gliders don't have to dodge already-constructed blocks in the block trails. At width 58, the simple two-glider recipes for the lead block in a block trail always has to pass through the corresponding block 62 cells down in the other trail in the pair.

I don't think any workable width, 54 to 59, will avoid that problem. Building with backward gliders would certainly do the trick. Otherwise we might need a three-glider recipe with a wide offset. Or is there a better idea that I'm missing here?

[Too many possibilities! I think I'd better work on drawing some better diagrams.]

EDIT: Here's what the front of the spaceship could look like, if a 31c/240 *WSS helix for backward glider streams is not too expensive. Lots of possible timing variations here, of course:

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x = 1485, y = 1245, rule = B3/S23
349bo$350b2o$349b2o$1484bo$1482b2o$296bo1186b2o$297b2o$296b2o$1421bo$
1419b2o$201bo1218b2o$202b2o$201b2o$1316bo$1314b2o$148bo1166b2o$149b2o$
148b2o$1253bo$1251b2o$53bo1198b2o$54b2o$53b2o$1148bo$1146b2o$o1146b2o$
b2o$2o$1085bo$1083b2o$1084b2o61$409bo$410b2o$409b2o$1424bo$1422b2o$
356bo1066b2o$357b2o$356b2o$1361bo$1359b2o$261bo1098b2o$262b2o$261b2o$
1256bo$1254b2o$208bo1046b2o$209b2o$208b2o$1193bo$1191b2o$113bo1078b2o$
114b2o$113b2o$1088bo$1086b2o$60bo1026b2o$61b2o$60b2o$1025bo$1023b2o$
1024b2o61$469bo$470b2o$469b2o$1364bo$1362b2o$416bo946b2o$417b2o$416b2o
$1301bo$1299b2o$321bo978b2o$322b2o$321b2o$1196bo$1194b2o$268bo926b2o$
269b2o$268b2o$1133bo$1131b2o$173bo958b2o$174b2o$173b2o$1028bo$1026b2o$
120bo906b2o$121b2o$120b2o$965bo$963b2o$964b2o61$529bo$530b2o$529b2o$
1304bo$1302b2o$476bo826b2o$477b2o$476b2o$1241bo$1239b2o$381bo858b2o$
382b2o$381b2o$1136bo$1134b2o$328bo806b2o$329b2o$328b2o$1073bo$1071b2o$
233bo838b2o$234b2o$233b2o$968bo$966b2o$180bo786b2o$181b2o$180b2o$905bo
$903b2o$904b2o61$589bo$590b2o$589b2o$1244bo$1242b2o$536bo706b2o$537b2o
$536b2o$1181bo$1179b2o$441bo738b2o$442b2o$441b2o$1076bo$1074b2o$388bo
686b2o$389b2o$388b2o$1013bo$1011b2o$293bo718b2o$294b2o$293b2o$908bo$
906b2o$240bo666b2o$241b2o$240b2o$845bo$843b2o$844b2o61$649bo$650b2o$
649b2o$1184bo$1182b2o$596bo586b2o$597b2o$596b2o$1121bo$1119b2o$501bo
618b2o$502b2o$501b2o$1016bo$1014b2o$448bo566b2o$449b2o$448b2o$953bo$
951b2o$353bo598b2o$354b2o$353b2o$848bo$846b2o$300bo546b2o$301b2o$300b
2o$785bo$783b2o$784b2o61$709bo$710b2o$709b2o$1124bo$1122b2o$656bo466b
2o$657b2o$656b2o$1061bo$1059b2o$561bo498b2o$562b2o$561b2o$956bo$954b2o
$508bo446b2o$509b2o$508b2o$893bo$891b2o$413bo478b2o$414b2o$413b2o$788b
o$786b2o$360bo426b2o$361b2o$360b2o$725bo$723b2o$724b2o61$769bo$770b2o$
769b2o$1064bo$1062b2o$716bo346b2o$717b2o$716b2o$1001bo$999b2o$621bo
378b2o$622b2o$621b2o$896bo$894b2o$568bo326b2o$569b2o$568b2o$833bo$831b
2o$473bo358b2o$474b2o$473b2o$728bo$726b2o$420bo306b2o$421b2o$420b2o$
665bo$663b2o$664b2o61$829bo$830b2o$829b2o$1004bo$1002b2o$776bo226b2o$
777b2o$776b2o$941bo$939b2o$681bo258b2o$682b2o$681b2o$836bo$834b2o$628b
o206b2o$629b2o$628b2o$773bo$771b2o$533bo238b2o$534b2o$533b2o$668bo$
666b2o$480bo186b2o$481b2o$480b2o$605bo$603b2o$604b2o61$889bo$890b2o$
889b2o$944bo$942b2o$836bo106b2o$837b2o$836b2o$881bo$879b2o$741bo138b2o
$742b2o$741b2o$776bo$774b2o$688bo86b2o$689b2o$688b2o$713bo$711b2o$593b
o118b2o$594b2o$593b2o$608bo$606b2o$540bo66b2o$541b2o$540b2o$545bo$543b
2o$544b2o31$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o26$605bo315bo$606bo315bo$604bo2bo312bo2bo2$701b2o56b2o$541b5o53b
2o5bo94b2o56b2o154b2o5bo$540b2obobo52b3o313b3o$539bo3bo54b2o3bo257b3o
50b2o3bo$538b3ob2o53b2o5b2o258bo48b2o5b2o$539b2ob2o5b2o47b2o4bo259b2o
48b2o4bo$541bo2bo3b3o42bo7b2o254b3o3b3o43bo7b2o$541b4o3bo2bo41bo10b2o
251bo3bo4bo42bo10b2o$540bob2obo2b3o42bo263bo3bo47bo$540b3o2bo3b2o310bo
b4o$540b3obo318b2obo$863b3o3$539b2o64b2o248b2o64b2o$539b2o64b2o248b2o
64b2o7$543b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o8$634bo66b2o56b2o$
635bo65b2o56b2o$633b3o252b2o$889b2o$551b2o40b2o272b2o19bo20b2o$551b2o
40b2o228bo43b2o40b2o$821b2o$576b3o180b2o61b2o$576bo182b2o$577bo124b3o
54bo$701bo3b2o51bo9bo$700b4ob2o3b2o30b3o12b2o8b3o$699b2o2b3o3bo2bo29b
4o10b5o5bo3bo$700bobo6bo2bo28b2o2b2o5b3obobobo4b3ob2o$701b2o5b2ob2o29b
2obo6b5obo7b3o$709b2o31b3o10b2o4bo3bobo$743bo12bo4bo4bo$757bo4bo$761bo
$760bo$578bo$579bo$543b2o32b3o21b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$563bo315bo$561b2o314b2o$562b2o314b2o2$714bo$715bo
188bo$713b3o112b2o72bobo$829b2o72b2o$828bo$743bo$551b2o40b2o114b2o30b
2o8b2o114b2o40b2o$551b2o40b2o41b3o70b2o31b2o7b2o114b2o40b2o$636bo$637b
o15$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$
709b2o40b2o$709b2o40b2o17$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o30$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$543b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 5:54 pm

It seems to me that having two caterpillar units is still a simpler and more efficient approach, because it makes forward rakes so cheap, and because even forward rakes are much cheaper than spaceships.

I estimate, that about 3 lightweight spaceships and at most 11 forward gliders will be required for building all 6 block trails per one caterpillar unit.

Lightweight spaceships collide with a forward glider, producing two gliders, a forward and a backward one, moving in the opposite lateral direction, and leaving some junk on the side of the spaceship lane to be used as a slow salvo target later.

Two initial gliders collide with other 2 forward gliders, producing two Herschel trails. Other four trails can be produced by running Herschels on the initial 2-Herschel track and colliding their gliders with other forward gliders. Since it may be not possible to use both gliders produced by Herschels, only one glider of two can be actually used for building the trail, and the other one might have to be shot down, and that would require other 8 gliders.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 6:01 pm

dvgrn wrote:EDIT: Here's what the front of the spaceship could look like, if a 31c/240 *WSS helix for backward glider streams is not too expensive. Lots of possible timing variations here, of course:
Assuming, that it is quite improbable to build a traditional burning helix with less than 5 spaceships, and there must be fanout devices consisting of at least 2 spaceships for each additional glider, plus another 2 spaceship stream for turning the glider when switching to the other side, this design would result in about 5 + 2*5 + 2*6 + 2 = 29 spaceship streams, as I estimate.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 6:35 pm

codeholic wrote:Assuming, that it is quite improbable to build a traditional burning helix with less than 5 spaceships, and there must be fanout devices consisting of at least 2 spaceships for each additional glider, plus another 2 spaceship stream for turning the glider when switching to the other side, this design would result in about 5 + 2*5 + 2*6 + 2 = 29 spaceship streams, as I estimate.
I'd actually be happy with a separate 5-LWSS helix for each backward glider -- total of 30 LWSS streams on each side. That would keep the design relatively simple, just re-using the same slow-salvo recipes over and over again on both sides, with different block-move salvos between them.

I think the spaceship would be fairly narrow compared with Calcyman's Catamaran Caterpillar design. Even with 60 LWSS streams, it might still win the bounding-box competition, if nothing else.

A full six-trail spaceship would basically have one very long row of rephasers. Whenever the right phase goes by and it's time to let out another slow-salvo glider on the left or right side, the Herschel pair on that side of the rephaser can be advanced two ticks to let a glider stream out.

There could be as many as 30 rephasers needed between successive rake outputs. But rephasers can be packed very close together, especially compared to Caterpillar-type *WSS construction units made up of adjacent forward and backward rakes.

-- It depends on what exactly we want to optimize, I guess. It looked to me like there might be fewer technical problems to solve here, so the six-trail spaceship might get done quicker even if it's technically suboptimal. But it's all kind of speculative until a decent backward-glider-shooting helix shows up.
codeholic wrote:I estimate, that about 3 lightweight spaceships and at most 11 forward gliders will be required for building all 6 block trails per one caterpillar unit.
Maybe it's time to build a candidate front end for the two-unit Catamaran, then, and start solving the various block-trail construction problems in detail. Can always hook up the LWSS fire-hoses later...!

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 6:41 pm

codeholic wrote:Lightweight spaceships collide with a forward glider, producing two gliders, a forward and a backward one, moving in the opposite lateral direction, and leaving some junk on the side of the spaceship lane to be used as a slow salvo target later.
I've just thought that it may not work, if we don't find a way to shoot forward gliders close enough.

Anyway, a fallback approach would be to generate these initial two gliders independently, that would result in 4 lightweight spaceships and 12 forward gliders per caterpillar unit.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 6:43 pm

dvgrn wrote:Catamaran
I thought about the same name. I like it.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 7:14 pm

Just built a trial pattern with 31 rephasers. It runs slowly on this bounded grid; Hashlife should be able to do much better with the full spaceship:

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[M2] (golly 2.6)
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12 438 791 835 882
I believe that means that, on average, it will take a spaceship length of 1250 cells or so to align each new backward rake. Could maybe cut that down a bit eventually by optimizing the construction recipes... also, the rephasers can be squashed another 60 ticks closer together or so -- it shouldn't really be a problem having them out of phase with each other.

But I won't worry about either of those details for now. I've dug up a somewhat improved slow synthesis for the LWSS seed, but the cleanup is still pretty awkward... more coming along sometime.

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 7:48 pm

I've found a suitable reaction for the front, that produces one of the two initial gliders and a slow salvo target at the same time.

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x = 192, y = 281, rule = B3/S23
181b2o$180bobo$182bo3$179b3o$178bo2bo$181bo$181bo$178bobo9bo$189b3o$
188b2obo$188b3o$189b2o16$121b2o$120bobo$122bo27$61b2o$60bobo$62bo27$b
2o$obo$2bo5$179b3o$178bo2bo$181bo$181bo$178bobo9bo$189b3o$188b2obo$
188b3o$189b2o81$179b3o$178bo2bo$181bo$181bo$178bobo9bo$189b3o$188b2obo
$188b3o$189b2o81$179b3o$178bo2bo$181bo$181bo$178bobo9bo$189b3o$188b2ob
o$188b3o$189b2o!
EDIT: Another one:

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x = 197, y = 286, rule = B3/S23
186b3o$181b2o3bo2bo$180bobo3bo$182bo3bo$187bobo10$194bo$193b3o$193bob
2o$194b3o$194b2o12$121b2o$120bobo$122bo27$61b2o$60bobo$62bo27$b2o$obo
183b3o$2bo183bo2bo$186bo$186bo$187bobo10$194bo$193b3o$193bob2o$194b3o$
194b2o71$186b3o$186bo2bo$186bo$186bo$187bobo10$194bo$193b3o$193bob2o$
194b3o$194b2o71$186b3o$186bo2bo$186bo$186bo$187bobo10$194bo$193b3o$
193bob2o$194b3o$194b2o!
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 8:01 pm

As for the other initial glider, it should be a clean reaction, and there are much more options to choose from:

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x = 420, y = 1025, rule = B3/S23
b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99b
o10$8b3o97b3o97b3o7b3o87b3o97b3o$7bo2bo96bo2bo96bo2bo7bo2bo85bo2bo96bo
2bo$10bo99bo99bo7bo91bo99bo$10bo99bo99bo7bo91bo99bo$7bobo97bobo97bobo
9bobo85bobo97bobo8bo$417b3o$416b2obo$416b3o$417b2o$120bo$119b3o$119bob
2o$120b3o$120b2o$13b3o296b3o$12bo2bo296bo2bo$15bo296bo$15bo296bo$12bob
o298bobo70$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo
99bo99bo99bo5$313b3o97b3o$312bo2bo96bo2bo$315bo99bo$315bo99bo$219bo92b
obo97bobo$8b3o9bo87b3o97b3o7b3o$7bo2bo8b3o85bo2bo96bo2bo6b2obo85b3o$
10bo7b2obo88bo9bo89bo6b3o85bo2bo$10bo7b3o89bo8b3o88bo7b2o88bo106bo$7bo
bo9b2o86bobo8b2obo85bobo98bo105b3o$118b3o184bobo105b2obo$119b2o292b3o$
414b2o81$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo
99bo99bo99bo3$414bo$413b3o$413bob2o$13b3o97b3o298b3o$12bo2bo96bo2bo97b
3o97b3o98b2o$15bo99bo96bo2bo96bo2bo$15bo99bo99bo99bo$12bobo97bobo91bo
8bo99bo$205b3o4bobo97bobo$205bob2o$206b3o$206b2o$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo300bo$
8bo299b3o$9bobo96b3o197bob2o$108bo2bo197b3o97b3o$108bo200b2o97bo2bo$
108bo302bo$109bobo299bo$408bobo74$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97b
obo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99bo3$14bo$13b3o98bo99bo$13bob2o96b3o
97b3o$14b3o96bob2o96bob2o97bo99bo$14b2o98b3o97b3o96b3o97b3o$114b2o98b
2o97bob2o96bob2o$314b3o97b3o$314b2o98b2o3$14bo101b3o$13b3o100bo2bo297b
o$12b2obo100bo299b3o$12b3o101bo298b2obo$13b2o102bobo295b3o$315bo100b2o
$314b3o$314bob2o$315b3o$315b2o3$208b3o$208bo2bo$208bo$208bo$209bobo69$
b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99b
o5$214b3o$14bo198bo2bo$13b3o98bo101bo$13bob2o96b3o100bo$14b3o96bob2o
96bobo$14b2o98b3o90bo99bo103bo$114b2o90b3o97b3o5b3o93b3o$206bob2o96bob
2o3bo2bo93bob2o$207b3o97b3o6bo94b3o$207b2o98b2o7bo94b2o$313bobo$114b3o
$19bo93bo2bo$18b3o95bo299b3o$17b2obo95bo298bo2bo$17b3o93bobo302bo$18b
2o398bo$415bobo76$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$
2bo99bo99bo99bo99bo8$17bo296bo$16b3o294b3o$11bo4bob2o91bo98bo102bob2o
95bo$10b3o4b3o90b3o96b3o102b3o94b3o$10bob2o3b2o91bob2o95bob2o95bo5b2o
95bob2o$11b3o97b3o96b3o94b3o102b3o$11b2o98b2o97b2o95bob2o101b2o$308b3o
$308b2o5$221b3o$221bo2bo180b3o$221bo182bo2bo$221bo185bo$222bobo182bo$
404bobo$110bo$109b3o$109bob2o$110b3o$110b2o67$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$
obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99bo10$12bo99bo99bo99bo99bo
$11b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$11bob2o96bob2o96bob2o96bob2o96bob2o$12b3o
97b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$12b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o7$106bo198b3o$105b3o197b
o2bo$105bob2o97bo98bo99b3o$5b3o98b3o96b3o97bo99bo2bo$4bo2bo98b2o97bob
2o97bobo96bo$7bo198b3o196bo$7bo198b2o198bobo$4bobo70$b2o98b2o98b2o98b
2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99bo4$413b3o$413bo
2bo$413bo$413bo$414bobo2$12bo99bo99bo99bo$11b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$11bob2o
96bob2o96bob2o96bob2o$12b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$12b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o6$106bo
$105b3o$104b2obo98bo$104b3o98b3o$105b2o97b2obo98bo105b3o$5b3o196b3o98b
3o103bo2bo$5bo2bo196b2o97b2obo106bo$5bo298b3o107bo$5bo299b2o104bobo$6b
obo69$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo
99bo99bo4$13b3o$13bo2bo$13bo$13bo$14bobo396b3o$413bo2bo$107b3o96b3o97b
3o104bo$107bo2bo95bo2bo96bo2bo103bo$107bo98bo99bo107bobo$107bo98bo99bo
$108bobo96bobo97bobo$14bo389b3o$13b3o387bo2bo$13bob2o389bo$14b3o185b3o
201bo$14b2o186bo2bo197bobo$202bo$202bo101b3o$101b3o99bobo98bo2bo$100bo
2bo200bo$103bo200bo$103bo201bobo$100bobo72$b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o$obo
97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$2bo99bo99bo99bo99bo5$14bo$13b3o$12b2obo98bo
99bo99bo99bo$12b3o98b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$13b2o97b2obo96b2obo96b2obo96b2o
bo$112b3o97b3o97b3o97b3o$113b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o2$13b3o$13bo2bo390bo$13b
o392b3o$13bo97b3o291b2obo$14bobo94bo2bo100b3o187b3o$111bo103bo2bo187b
2o$111bo103bo$112bobo100bo$216bobo$311b3o$311bo2bo$311bo$311bo$312bobo
72$b2o98b2o$obo97bobo$2bo99bo7$14bo$13b3o$12b2obo$12b3o95bo$13b2o94b3o
$108b2obo$108b3o$109b2o$10bo$9b3o$8b2obo$8b3o93bo$9b2o92b3o$102b2obo$
102b3o$103b2o!
Not all of them will work with slow salvo synthesis though, because some spaceships are too close to each other.

EDIT: That's it, just four lightweight spaceships (per caterpillar) for the front. The rest can be done by colliding gliders from forward rakes with gliders from Herschels.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 8:40 pm

codeholic wrote:That's it, just four lightweight spaceships (per caterpillar) for the front. The rest can be done by colliding gliders from forward rakes with gliders from Herschels.
I'll take your word for it -- I'm not clear on some of the timing issues yet, especially with the closer-spaced 180-degree reflections, but it certainly looks doable.

The next problem is probably to build a complete slow-salvo LWSS rake, so I'll put a script together for that. Here's a 10-glider recipe for the LWSS seed:

backward-LWSS:E9 E1 E-15 E11 E-31 E-17 E-19 E-45 E-15 E-29

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x = 205, y = 219, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o18$15bo$13bobo$14b2o18$50bo$48bobo$49b2o18$57bo$55bobo$56b
2o18$76bo$74bobo$75b2o18$103bo$101bobo$102b2o54$138bo$136bobo$137b2o
18$171bo$169bobo$170b2o18$183bo$181bobo$182b2o18$199bo$197bobo3b2o$
198b2o3b2o!
That's without any cleanup gliders, though. The leftover blinkers are particularly annoying. There seem to be hardly any lucky shots that can take out two or more junk objects at once.

It's probably not a good idea to end up with just a block as the leftover still life, because there are only two likely branches of the search tree from a block (the honeyfarms). Pi explosions are messy, and also wider than 31 cells -- theoretically they might be made to work anyway, but it's probably not worth investigating much.

I experimented a little with incorporating push reactions as part of the cleanup. Here's an example of the kind of thing that might possibly be useful:

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x = 137, y = 125, rule = B3/S23
11bobo$12b2o$12bo8$obo$b2o$bo8$47bobo$48b2o$48bo2$33bobo$34b2o$34bo$
18bobo$19b2o$19bo41$86bo$87bo$85b3o6$113bo$93bo20bo$94bo17b3o$92b3o11$
102bo$103bo$101b3o$128b3o5$110b3o2$114bo$114bo$114bo7$135b2o$135b2o2$
132b2o$132b2o7$133bo$132bobo$133b2o!
However, I haven't experimented with running this mod 31 -- some of the intermediate stages may be too wide.

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 8:41 pm

codeholic wrote:As for the other initial glider, it should be a clean reaction, and there are much more options to choose from:
I've just realized, that an additional slow salvo target won't interfere with anything and even might be handy, because one wouldn't need to move a single target around yet one more time. So clean reactions are probably of no use anyway.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 10th, 2014, 8:51 pm

dvgrn wrote:Here's a 10-glider recipe for the LWSS seed:

backward-LWSS:E9 E1 E-15 E11 E-31 E-17 E-19 E-45 E-15 E-29
I'm afraid this synthesis interferes with itself when used on the production line.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 10th, 2014, 9:13 pm

codeholic wrote:
dvgrn wrote:Here's a 10-glider recipe for the LWSS seed:

backward-LWSS:E9 E1 E-15 E11 E-31 E-17 E-19 E-45 E-15 E-29
I'm afraid this synthesis interferes with itself when used on the production line.
Bother, so it does. The problem doesn't look fixable, so I guess I'll stick with the previous 12-glider recipe for now:

backward-LWSS-12G:E-9 E-1 O11 O-13 O5 O23 E-29 E-13 E-15 E-41 E-11 E-25

This is a fairly contrived construction, so I'm definitely interested in doing an exhaustive Glue-like search at some point, to come up with cheaper options. There are probably LWSS edge-shooter seeds out there with half this many gliders.

EDIT: Just started looking into the cheapest slow-salvo synthesis for a forward glider, but it depends on what junk we're starting with. For example, if the right orientation of boat is left over from a dirty reaction at the front of the spaceship, that might be all that's needed.

If we have to start from a block, the most likely candidate might be this one, from my proposed slow-elbow collection:

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x = 32, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$3o$o$bo13$10bo8bo$9b2o7b2o$9bobo6bobo5$30bo$29b2o$29bobo!
If the target needs to be re-used, the final cleanup glider can be replaced by combinations of two gliders to get back to honeyfarms in four possible locations.

In the same thread as the above, you posted a backward HWSS edge-shooting constellation with just two objects (!) I'll check and see how easy it is to construct with a slow salvo:

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x = 76, y = 107, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o57$70b2o$70bo$73bo$72b2o11$75bo$75bo$75bo15$70b2o$62bo7bo$
60bobo10bo$61b2o9b2o11$75bo$75bo$75bo!

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 11th, 2014, 5:28 am

codeholic wrote:
codeholic wrote:How about launching forward gliders also with slow salvos?
It's even easier to produce a forward glider stream with kicking back a backward glider stream by another backward glider stream coming from the other caterpillar unit.
I've realized, that it won't work. The kicked-back glider stream won't be able to overtake the location, where the original backward glider stream was produced. So building a forward rake with slow salvo is still relevant.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 11th, 2014, 6:39 am

dvgrn wrote:I'll check and see how easy [the backward HWSS edge-shooter] is to construct with a slow salvo.
13 gliders can technically do the construction mod 31, but it's not quite good enough yet, this time because of interference higher up --

backward-HWSS:E9 O1 O17 E17 E45 E25 E35 E29 E25 E35 E25 O17 O19

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x = 1892, y = 1914, rule = LifeHistory
A$.2A$2A89$60.A$61.2A$60.2A57$151.A$152.2A$151.2A89$211.A$212.2A$211.
2A57$298.A$299.A$297.3A89$358.A$359.A$357.3A57$443.A$444.A$442.3A89$
503.A$504.A$502.3A57$598.A$599.A$597.3A89$658.A$659.A$657.3A57$746.A$
747.A$745.3A89$806.A$807.A$805.3A57$893.A$894.A$892.3A89$953.A$954.A$
952.3A57$1048.A$1049.A$1047.3A89$1108.A$1109.A$1107.3A57$1188.A$1189.
A$1187.3A89$1248.A$1249.A$1247.3A57$1352.A$1353.A$1351.3A89$1412.A$
1413.A$1411.3A57$1501.A$1502.2A$1501.2A89$1561.A$1562.2A$1561.2A57$
1659.A$1660.2A$1659.2A89$1719.A$1720.2A$1719.2A57$1805.BA$1804.B.BA$
1805.3A48$1890.2E$1890.2E30$1890.2E$1890.2E9$1865.BA$1864.B.BA$1865.
3A19$1890.2E$1890.2E!
I'm not sure yet how much more expensive it will be to keep all the intermediate targets safely behind the HWSS lane. But since LWSSes can already be made to work, I won't waste much more time on HWSSes for now.

There's no leftover junk to push to the next construction site in the above recipe, anyway. But maybe that's less of an issue if it's easy to generate targets up at the top where the *WSSes are used...?

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 11th, 2014, 8:42 am

codeholic wrote:I've realized, that it won't work. The kicked-back glider stream won't be able to overtake the location, where the original backward glider stream was produced. So building a forward rake with slow salvo is still relevant.
I think I see what you mean. Without the slow-salvo method, you can't get forward glider streams at the front of the Catamaran between the two units -- only outside, and far away from the block trails (proportional to the distance between the two units and the length of the front part that's producing forward gliders).

Couldn't you add extra backward rakes, though? Multiple kickbacks could effectively bring a forward glider stream up the middle to a point where it could be useful. Wouldn't want to do it for too many streams simultaneously, but for just a few streams it might be workable.

--------------------------------------

I'll see if I can find a way to put together a complete forward rake that doesn't need a target coming in from higher up -- there are a couple of interesting options to investigate. But will it be reasonably easy to generate a line of target junk at the front?

If the second caterpillar unit can't produce interior forward glider streams, is there still a good reason to stick with the Catamaran design? I'm still a bit worried about synchronization problems, particularly the details of getting gliders from the first Herschel-pair track to line up correctly with gliders from elsewhere, to produce blocks in exactly the right places to complete the other four blinker trails. This part, in particular:
codeholic wrote:Two initial gliders collide with other 2 forward gliders, producing two Herschel trails. Other four trails can be produced by running Herschels on the initial 2-Herschel track and colliding their gliders with other forward gliders. Since it may be not possible to use both gliders produced by Herschels, only one glider of two can be actually used for building the trail, and the other one might have to be shot down, and that would require other 8 gliders.
Might it not also be necessary to send extra Herschel pairs up the first track, to re-align the block trails to get gliders out on lanes that can be used for block constructions? That would mean shooting down a lot more gliders, or coming up with some controllably explosive junk to line the track with, which could absorb several gliders without generating any new ones.

But as you add more forward glider streams to solve more glider emission problems, the single-unit spaceship with twelve backward-glider helixes starts looking awfully easy by comparison...!

Probably it makes more sense to redesign the block trails based on what turns out to be easily buildable. The 58:100:58:100:58 aligned-block design can be adjusted in all kinds of ways if necessary. Quite possibly the block trails can even be re-aligned after they've been built -- here's width 53 going to width 61, for example:

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x = 63, y = 255, rule = LifeHistory
53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.
2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$
53.2C11$2C$2C18$53.2C$53.2C11$2C$2C10$60.3A$61.A$59.3A10$7.3A$8.A$6.
3A!
And neighboring block trails can conveniently absorb extra glider streams while getting moved (1,-2) or (2,-1), of course. But I'm not particularly looking forward to the idea of getting those kinds of re-alignment tricks to work in practice.

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 11th, 2014, 9:54 am

dvgrn wrote:Couldn't you add extra backward rakes, though? Multiple kickbacks could effectively bring a forward glider stream up the middle to a point where it could be useful. Wouldn't want to do it for too many streams simultaneously, but for just a few streams it might be workable.
Argh, no, obviously that will just add a new backward rake that the forward stream can't get past. In other words, forward gliders will always have to cross to the outside below the first backward rake.

Here's a visualization aid -- I obviously needed it, even if nobody else did:

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x = 1416, y = 2618, rule = B3/S23
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$56b2o104b2o
56b2o$55bob2o103b2o56b2o100b3o$6b3o46bob3o262b3o$6bo2bo44b3o7b2o254b2o
59bo$6b2o47bob3o4b2o252b2o4bo48b2o6bo$2b3o2bo317bo47bo$bo3bobo3bo305bo
9bo45b3o4bobo$bo5bo3bo305bo2bobo3bobo40b3o8bobo$2b2obobo3bo317bo51bo$
6bob2o2bo309bo6bo$9bo2bo309bo$8bo2bo43b2o267bo3bo$9b2o314b2o$54b3o$2o
53bo10b2o248b2o64b2o$2o64b2o248b2o64b2o7$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b
2o256b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o3$28bo$27b2o$27bobo2$162b2o56b2o$162b2o56b2o3$12b2o40b2o272b2o
40b2o$12b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$161b2o119bo$153b2o6bobo117bo$153bo2b2o3bob
o56bo60b3o$156bob2ob2o4b2o51bo8bo$161b2obobob2o6b4o37b3obo5b2obo$104bo
bo44bo2b2obobo2bo5b2ob3ob2o3bo35bo2b2o6b5o$105b2o45bo2b3o5bo4bo6bo3b2o
25b3o6b5obo5b2o2b2o$105bo47b3obo7bo2bo7b2o30bo4b3o13bo2bo$157bo8bobo
39bo4b2o14bobo$146bo8b3o9bo8b3o25bob2o22bo$146bobo26b2o26b2o11b3o3bo$
146b2o73bo$222bo4$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$88bo$87b2o249bo$87bobo247bo$337b3o3$48bobo314bo$49b2o315b2o$49bo
315b2o2$54b2o114b2o30bo9b2o114b2o40b2o$54b2o114b2o30bobo7b2o114b2o40b
2o$202b2o3$184bobo$185b2o$185bo11$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o11$170b2o40b2o$170b2o40b2o17$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o29$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o14$1351b3o$1350bo2bo$1350bo3bo$1349bo$1083bo264b2ob3o
45b2o$1081b6o262bo48b3o$1081b2o2b2o262b2o3bo43bo2bo$1350bo47b2ob2o$
1085bo312b2ob2o$1081b2o2bo311b2ob2o$1040bo40b2o3bo268bobo40bo$1039b3o
43bo270b2o41b3o$1038bo2bo41bobo270bo43bo$1038b2o44bo$1039bo$4b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o661b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o659b4o147b2o
56b2o$1038bo2bo148b2o56b2o$1040bo$1030b2o60b2o314b2o$1030b2o7bobo40b2o
10bo261b2o40b2o8b2o$1040b2o40b2o8b3o261b2o40b2o$1094bo315bo$1092bo2bo
313bobo$1408bo$1092bobo306b2o6bo3bo$1029bo370bobo6bo4bo$1028bobo371bo
12bo$1028bobo$1029b2o379bo$1028b3o382bo8$1032b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$1032b
2o56b2o256b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o809b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o808b2obo$1189bobo$1186bo5bo$1185bo3bob2o$1040b2o40b2o
101bobob2o52b2o111b2o40b2o$1040b2o40b2o157b2o2bo110b2o40b2o$1199bo42bo
b2o5bo$1199bo39b2o3bo6bo89b2o$1199bo51bo88bobo$1342bo5$1186b2o64b2o$
1186b2o64b2o5$980bo$980bobo$980b2o50b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$1146bobo$1147b2o$1147bo$1161bo$1160bo126b
o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o780b3o124bobo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o907b2o2$1282bo$1283b2o$1198b2o40b2o40b2o$1198b2o40b2o17$1032b2o
56b2o98b2o34bo21b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o35b2o19b2o98b2o56b2o$
1226b2o3$1207bo$1207bobo$1207b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o4$1198b2o40b2o$1198b2o40b2o17$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o18$920bo$920bobo$920b2o2$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o22$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$381bo$377bo4b2o$377bo3b3o$
382b2o$162b2o56b2o160bo$57bo104b2o56b2o154b2o3b2o$57b2o317bo4b2o$57bob
o4b2o257bo51bo4b2o$7bo50b2o4b2o256b3o50bo5bo$5b2ob2o43b2o267b4o49b2o2b
obo$5b2ob2o47bo261b2obo3b2o51bob2o$b3ob2obobo42bobob3o257b2o2b2o46b3o
7bob2o$8bob2o41bo4b2o259bo2bobo3bo$7b2o2bo42b2o2b2o262bo4bo$8b3o42b2ob
2o265bob2o$53b2ob2o267b2o$55bo2$2o64b2o248b2o64b2o$2o64b2o248b2o64b2o
2$860bo$860bobo$860b2o3$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o652b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o5$29b2o$
28b2o$30bo131b2o56b2o188bo$162b2o56b2o189b2o$410b2o2$12b2o40b2o272b2o
40b2o$12b2o40b2o227bo44b2o40b2o$166bo116bobo$161b3o2bo53b2o61b2o$161bo
bo2bo54bo$103bo49b5o3bo3bo$104b2o51b2o3b5o11bo41bo5bo2bo$103b2o48b4o6b
2obobob4o4bo40bo6bo2bo$154bo11b2ob2ob2o3bobo24bo13b2o4bo5bo$148bo6b2o
12bo3bo3bo24b2ob2o6b2o3bo5bobob2o$147bo7b2o11b3o6b3o23bo2bo6b2o2bob2ob
obo4bo$147b3o24b2o2b2o24b2o11bobob8o$172b3o4b2o37b9o$172b2obo3b2o44bo$
176b3ob2o$177b4o$178b2o2$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o652b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$339bo$339bobo$89b2o248b2o$88b2o$47bo42bo$48b2o313bobo$47b2o
315b2o$364bo$204bo$203bo$54b2o114b2o31b3o6b2o114b2o40b2o$54b2o114b2o
40b2o114b2o40b2o2$183bo$184b2o$183b2o12$326bo$162b2o56b2o104bo$59b2o
101b2o56b2o104bo48b2o655b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$59b3o313b3o654b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10bo45b2o2b2o2b2o252b2o7bo2bo41b2o2b2o2b2o$
11b2o42b3o6b2o252b2o3bobo2b2o41b3o6b2o$54bo3bo264b2o3bo41bo3bo$6b3o45b
3o267bo45b3o$b3o3bo2bo42bo4bo310bo4bo$8b3o42b2ob2o311b2ob2o$9bo43bo3bo
311bo3bo$54b3o313b3o3$170b2o40b2o$2o64b2o102b2o40b2o102b2o64b2o$2o64b
2o248b2o64b2o7$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$800bo$357b2o
441bobo$356bobo441b2o$358bo3$30b2o$29b2o131b2o56b2o$31bo130b2o56b2o
810b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$12b
2o40b2o165b2o105b2o40b2o$12b2o40b2o164bo4b3o100b2o40b2o$165bo50bo3bobo
4b2o$164b2o49b3o3b2o2bo3bo240bo$102bo52b2o6bo2bo46b2o2bo9b2o242b2o$
103b2o50bo4b2obo44bo4b3o254b2o$102b2o49bo7bo3bo36b3o3bobo5bo13b2o$153b
o2bo3bobobobo5bo4b3o28bob2ob4o12bo2bo$149bo6b2obo6bo4b2o5b2o37bo11bobo
$148bo5bobo6b3o4b2o5b2o34b2ob2o9bo2b2o43bo$148b3o5bo7b2o5bobo3bobo32b
2o2bo8b3o2b2o43bobo$172b2o4b4o31b3o9bo49b2o$173bo3bo2b2o32bo10bobo$
177bob2o45b2o10bo$177b3o59b2o$238b2o3$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o75b2o21b2o56b2o$296bobo$298bo3$46bo43b2o$47b2o40b2o$
46b2o43bo2$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$14b2o314b2o700b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$17bo315bo$12bo3bo37b2o114b2o40b2o114bo3bo$12bobo39b
2o114b2o40b2o114bobo$182bo$183b2o$182b2o3$195bo$195bobo$195b2o9$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$170b2o40b2o$
170b2o40b2o17$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o360bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o360bobo$740b2o8$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$530bo$531b2o$530b2o15$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o18$680bo$680bobo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
300b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$590bo$591b2o$590b2o17$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o16$620bo$620bobo$620b2o2$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$650bo381b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$651b2o379b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$650b2o19$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o14$560bo$560bobo$560b2o4$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$710bo$711b2o$
710b2o320b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o5$770bo$771b2o$770b2o2$1032b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$830bo$831b2o$830b2o4$556b2o474b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$555b2o475b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$557bo19$
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$616b2o$
615b2o$617bo414b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
5$676b2o$675b2o$677bo2$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o20$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$890bo$891b2o$736b2o152b2o$735b2o$737bo4$1032b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$1349bo$1348bo3bo$
1348b2o$1345b3o2bo2bo3b3o$1087bo257bo2b3o4bo3b2o$1086bobo256bo6bo2bobo
2b2o41bo$1085b2ob2o256b2o2b2o2bo5bo41b3o$1086bob2o258b2o5bo2b2o41bo2bo
$1083b2o2b3o265bo44b3o2b2o$1088bo312bo2b3o$1087bo314b2o2b2o$1086b2o
317b3o$1036b3o52b2o309b4obo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o656bo54b2o
309b2o2b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o656b3o51b2o256b2o55b2o$796b2o
292bo257b2o$795b2o240bo$797bo239b3o358bo$1039b3o39bo315bo$1039b2o40bob
o313b3o$1081b2o2$1361bo$1190b2o56b2o112b2o$1190b2o56b2o111b2o2$1029bo$
1029bo10b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o6b3o$1040b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o8bo$1028bobo
376bo$1028bobo14$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o476b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o475b2o175b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$857bo174b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o8$
1245bo$1245bo$1246bo99b3o$1195b2o48b2o3b2o96bo$1040b2o40b2o111b3o44b5o
3b2o95bo8b2o40b2o$1040b2o40b2o110b2o2bo42bobo112b2o40b2o$1193b3o44b2ob
2o$1187b3o4b3o43bo2bo$1195bo43b2ob2o$1240bobo$1241bo4$1186b2o64b2o$
1186b2o64b2o4$916b2o$915b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o537bo32bo$4b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o571b2o79b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$950b2o
80b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$975bo$974bo$974b3o3$1152bo$1153b2o131b
3o$1152b2o134bo$1287bo$1155bo$1155bobo40b2o40b2o$1155b2o41b2o40b2o16$
4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o810b2o56b2o
103b3o$1087bobo100b2o56b2o153bobo$1086bo315bo$1039bo43bob3obo2b2o252b
2o8b2o41bob3obo2b2o$1039bo43bo2bo5b2o252b2o3bo3b3o41bo2bo5b2o$1035bo
46bo268bobo2b2o40bo$1030bo3b3o44b3obo145bobo117b2o44b3obo$1030bo3bo3bo
42bo150b2o163bo$1030bo5bobo41b3ob3o145bo163b3ob3o$1036b3o42bo3bo311bo
3bo$1082b3o117bo195b3o$1083bo117bo197bo$1201b3o$1198b2o40b2o$1028b2o
64b2o102b2o40b2o102b2o64b2o$1028b2o64b2o248b2o64b2o7$1032b2o56b2o256b
2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o2$1385b2o$1386b2o$1385bo3$4b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o677b3o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o677bo132b2o56b2o$
1058bo131b2o56b2o3$1040b2o40b2o165bo4bo101b2o40b2o$1040b2o40b2o164bobo
3b3o99b2o40b2o$1192b2o49b3o2bobo2bob2o$1192b3o47b2obo3b2o3bo2bo$1131bo
51b2o5b2obo47bo3bo10bo$1132bo49b3o3b2o2bo38bo5bo3bob2o$1130b3o49bo8b3o
12bo24bo3b2ob3o3bo13b2o$1184b2o2b2o4bo4b2o4bobo23bo6b2o2b4o11bo2bo$
1184b2o8bo3bobo39bo4bo10b2ob2o$1176bobo5bo6bo2bo3bo6bo34b6o9b3o2bo43bo
$1176b2o5bo7bobo4b2obo3bo34bo3b2o7bobo2b2o42b2o$1177bo23b2o2bo3bo30bo
2bo8b2obo47b2o$1200b2o3bo35b3o9bobo$1204b2o3bo44b2o11bo$1205bob2o59bo$
1206bo59b3o3$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
75b2o21b2o56b2o$1326b2o$1325bo3$1075bo41b3o$1076bo40bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o694b3o41bo$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$1043b2o314b2o
$1041bo40b2o114b2o40b2o115bo$1041bo40b2o114b2o40b2o115bo$1211bo$1212bo
$1210b3o3$1224bo$1222b2o$1223b2o9$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o4$1198b2o40b2o$1198b2o40b2o17$1032b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$1032b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o7$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$4b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o!
Ignore the bad interactions after T=7000 -- the point is just that the forward stream successfully makes it past the original backward rake. But now there's a new backward rake that's still out of reach -- might as well just cross to the outside without the extra kickbacks.

-- Lots of other ideas to try, though. For example, might it be possible to build three-glider LWSSes in the middle of the Catamaran, and then collide the LWSS stream with junk at the front of the spaceship and end up with a forward glider stream again? What would the junk have to look like?

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 11th, 2014, 10:05 am

dvgrn wrote:But as you add more forward glider streams to solve more glider emission problems, the single-unit spaceship with twelve backward-glider helixes starts looking awfully easy by comparison...!
Probably you're right. Though it's less elegant, it starts to seem to me, that it easier to assemble.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by dvgrn » January 11th, 2014, 11:28 am

codeholic wrote:
dvgrn wrote:But as you add more forward glider streams to solve more glider emission problems, the single-unit spaceship with twelve backward-glider helixes starts looking awfully easy by comparison...!
Probably you're right. Though it's less elegant, it starts to seem to me, that it easier to assemble.
If we do scrap the Catamaran in favor of a single-hulled vessel, the next question is how many block trails there should be in the single hull.

Once we drop the idea of building trails incrementally starting from a single pair, it might be worth considering making the next jump up from six trails to twelve. This would make forward glider streams trivial again, without worrying about constructing them with slow salvos:

EDIT:I didn't really need this many rephasers, I think -- just got lazy copy-and-pasting the backrake.

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x = 1267, y = 2240, rule = B3/S23
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obo$5b2o19b3o$3bo3bo19bo44b2o248b2o64b2o$bo5bo64b2o248b2o64b2o$bobob2o
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3bo$41b2o129b2o553b2o129b2o$41bo125bo559bo125bo$167bo5bo679bo5bo$33bo
134bo4bo175bo369bo134bo4bo175bo$10b2o20bo35b2o98b3o55b2o98b2o20bo35b2o
310b2o20bo35b2o98b3o55b2o98b2o20bo35b2o$10b2o20b3o33b2o156b2o98b2o20b
3o33b2o310b2o20b3o33b2o156b2o98b2o20b3o33b2o3$176bobo187bo495bobo187bo
$177b2o188b2o494b2o188b2o$177bo188b2o495bo188b2o2$213bo685bo$212bo685b
o$212b3o683b3o3$18b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o71b3o40b2o40b2o326b2o40b2o114b2o
40b2o71b3o40b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o73bo40b2o40b2o326b2o40b2o
114b2o40b2o73bo40b2o40b2o$292bo685bo2$108bo685bo$107b2o684b2o$107bobo
683bobo12$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$
176b2o40b2o642b2o40b2o$176b2o40b2o642b2o40b2o17$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$1210bobo$1211b2o$1211bo26$10b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o30$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o310b2o55b3o98b2o56b2o97b3o57bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o310b2o50b2o3bo2b2o96b2o56b2o97bo57b2obo$694b3o50bo3bob2o254bobobo49b
3o2bo3bo$696bo51bob4obo2bo248b3o2b2o52bo5bo$691bo5bob2obo45bo4b3ob2o
248b2o58bobob2o$690bo6b2o3b2o45bobobobob2o248b2o55bo4bobobo$690bobo10b
2o44bo3bobobo307b3obobobo$691bo5bo2b2o49b2o3bo254bo8b3o44b2o3bo$694b3o
5b2o5bo28bo$698bo2bo6b3o27bo270bo44bo$698bo11bo2b3o21b3o270bo42b3o$
686b2o20b2o342bobobo$685bob2ob2o6b2o7bo344bobobo$684b2o2b2ob2o6b2o36b
3o313b3o19b2o$685bo6bobo8bo2bo31bo19b2o248b2o44bo19bo3bo$686b4ob2ob2o
7bobo32bo19bo2b2obo243b2o64bo5bo$687bo5b2o64bob3obo309b2obobo$688b2obo
bo9b2o57bo313bo4bo$759bo6bo309bo4bo$676bobo80bo2bobo311bo4bo$676b2o84b
o314b3o$677bo83b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o23bo232b2o56b2o$
780bo482b2o$778b3o482b2o3$983bobo$983b2o$984bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o468b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468b2o56b2o3$704b2o
40b2o272b2o40b2o$704b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o5$1033bo$1033b2o$723bo308bobo$
724bo183b3o$722b3o183bobo$906bo3bo297bo$906bob2o2bo295b2o$724bo181bo3b
o128bobo165bobo$722b2o184b2o129b2o$723b2o189bo125bo$859b2o2bo44bo5bo$
858b2o48bo4bo134bo$696b2o56b2o103b2o50b3o98b2o35bo20b2o$696b2o56b2o
256b2o33b3o20b2o$859b2o2b2o398b2o$858bo404b2o$861b4o38bobo$859bo2bo40b
2o$904bo3$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o3$704b2o40b2o102b3o9b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$704b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o114b2o
40b2o$850b3o$851b2o$973bo$973b2o$972bobo3$1148bo$1148b2o$1147bobo3$
758bo$759bo$757bo2bo2$854b2o56b2o$694b5o53b2o5bo94b2o56b2o96b5o53bobo$
693b2obobo52b3o255b2obobo49bo4bo2b2o189b2o$692bo3bo54b2o3bo251bo3bo50b
2o6bobo189b2o$691b3ob2o53b2o5b2o248b3ob2o49b2o4bo2bob2o$692b2ob2o5b2o
47b2o4bo250b2ob2o5b2o42b2o9b2o$694bo2bo3b3o42bo7b2o254bo2bo3b3o43b5obo
b2o$694b4o3bo2bo41bo10b2o251b4o3bo2bo43bo2bo$693bob2obo2b3o42bo262bob
2obo2b3o44bo2bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o307b3o2bo3b2o305b3o2bo3b
2o35bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o307b3obo311b3obo39bo2bo22b2o$
1053b3o$1053b3o20bo$862b2o40b2o179bo$692b2o64b2o102b2o40b2o102b2o65b2o
3bo4bo$692b2o64b2o248b2o64bobo5bobo$1074b2o4bobo$1074b2o4b2o$1075b3o2b
o$1075b3o$1088bo$1088b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o15bobo$696b2o56b2o256b
2o56b2o3$616bobo$616b2o366bobo$617bo366b2o$985bo2$787bo66b2o56b2o$788b
o65b2o56b2o$786b3o474b2o$1263b2o$704b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$704b2o40b2o
272b2o40b2o2$729b3o$729bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o344bo124b3o$
10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468bo3b2o$853b4ob2o3b2o167bo$852b2o2b3o
3bo2bo166b2o$853bobo6bo2bo165bobo$854b2o5b2ob2o$862b2o44b3o$908bo2bo
128bobo$907bo3bo128b2o$912bo115bo12bo$908b3ob2o114b2o$731bo180bo114bob
o17bo$732bo174bo3b2o135bo$696b2o32b3o21b2o98b2o55bo100b2o32b3o21b2o$
696b2o56b2o98b2o156b2o56b2o2$716bo187bobo$714b2o188b2o$715b2o188bo2$
867bo$868bo$866b3o2$1263b2o$1263b2o$704b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$
704b2o40b2o41b3o70b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$789bo$790bo2$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o586bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o586b2o$971bobo5$968bo$
968b2o$967bobo4$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o10$1263b2o$1263b2o$862b2o40b2o$862b2o40b2o4$10b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o4$908bo$908b2o$907bobo6$
696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$556bob
o$556b2o$557bo7$1263b2o$1263b2o6$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$848bo$848b2o$847bobo8$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o10$1263b2o$1263b2o6$10b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o402bo$788b2o$787b
obo10$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
10$1263b2o$1263b2o5$728bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o342b2o$10b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o341bobo12$496bobo197b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$496b2o198b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$497bo9$1263b2o$1263b2o3$
668bo$668b2o$667bobo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o12$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o10$1263b2o$1263b2o$608bo$608b2o$607bobo3$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o10$548bo714b2o$548b2o713b2o$
547bobo5$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
10$436bobo$436b2o$437bo258b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o8$488bo$488b2o$487bobo773b2o$1263b2o6$10b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$428bo$428b2o$427bobo$60b3o
$61bo1201b2o$61b3o1199b2o5$333b3o43bo$17b3o148b2o56b2o104bo2bo43bo$17b
o2bo147b2o56b2o104bo3bo42bo$17bob2o312b4o$8b2o60b2o252b2o9bo39bo2bo7b
2o$8b2o50b2o8b2o252b2o50b2o2bobo3b2o$60b2o315bo3b2o$381bo2$9bo315bo$9b
obo312bo$9b2o61bo251b3o$71bobo$70bo3bo$70bo3bo621b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$6b2o62bo251b2o64b2o306b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$6b2o63b3o
248b2o64b2o$22b2o$22bobo$22bo4$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o256b2o
56b2o$1263b2o$1263b2o6$223b3o$168bobo50b4o2b2o$165b2obo2bo48bobob5o$
165b2obo2bo49b2o6bo$18b2o40b2o102bob2o51b6o2b3o104b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o
102b4o5bo45b2obobob2obo104b2o40b2o$174b2o43bo2bo$167b2o6bo44b4o2b2o$
164bo3b2obob3o$165b5o40b2o$168bo39bo2bo$209b3o23b2o$216b2o15b2o2b2obo$
231b2o5bo2bo454b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$82b2o80b2o69b2o4bo454b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$82bobo79b2o60bo4bo4bob3o$82bo147bo4b2obo$
226bo2bo2bo2b2o$232bo43bobo$230bobo43b2o$231bo45bo$249bo$10b2o56b2o53b
o44b2o56b2o22bo75b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o51bobo44b2o56b2o20b3o75b2o56b2o$
122b2o1139b2o$1263b2o$142bo$140b2o$141b2o7$176b2o40b2o$176b2o40b2o8$
696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$198bo$
196b2o$197b2o2$72b2o$203bo$201bobo$9b3o156b2o32b2o22b2o97b3o$7b2obobo
52bobo100b2o56b2o95b2obobo54bo$7b2o3bo310b2o3bo48b2o4b5o875b2o$5bo4bo
56bo3bo249bo4bo49bobo5b2o877b2o$5bo5bo52bo5b3o248bo5bo$5bo5bo3bobo46b
3o3b3o248bo5bo3bobo45b4ob2o2bo$11bo3bo2bo51b3o254bo3bo2bo41bo2b4o3b2o$
7bo4bobo3bo40b3o261bo4bobo3bo46bo$7bo4bo2bo2bo304bo4bo2bo2bo$6bo5bo2bo
bo304bo5bo2bobo$7bob2o312bob2o40bo2bo$8bo315bo41bo3bo$367bobo$176b2o
40b2o148bo20b2o$6b2o64b2o102b2o40b2o102b2o65b2o7b2o$6b2o64b2o248b2o64b
obo6bo$387bo2bo3bob2o$393b2o$391bo2b2o$389bobo$390bo2$10b2o56b2o256b2o
56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o4$298bo$298bobo$298b2o2$168b2o56b2o$100bobo65b2o
56b2o$101b2o1160b2o$101bo1161b2o$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o272b
2o40b2o$44bo$43b2o$43bobo124bo$169b4o$167bo5bo$166bo3bo6b2o167b2o$166b
o5b2o2bo2bo165bobo$166b2obobo4bo2b2o166bo$168b2o5bo2b2o43bo$175b4o43b
3o$221b2o2bo128bo$225b2o127bobo$222b3ob2o126b2o$223bo2b2o$222b3o$44bob
o178b2o133bobo$10b2o33b2o21b2o98b2o55b2o99b2o33b2o21b2o310b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o33bo22b2o98b2o156b2o33bo22b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o2$29bo188bo$28bo189bobo$28b3o187b2o3$180bobo$181b2o$
181bo$1263b2o$1263b2o$18b2o40b2o42bo71b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o
41b2o71b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$103bobo3$286b2o$285bobo$287bo11$10b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o310b2o50bo4b2obo97b2o56b2o156b2o$748b2o3bo2b2o$693b3o52b5o
3b2o254b2o$691b6o3b2o50bo2bobo254b2obob3o$690bo2bobob2ob3o46bobobobobo
248bo6b3ob2obo$690bobobo2bobo3b2o44b3obobobo248bo6b2o2bob2o50b2o$691bo
2b2ob2ob3o2bo45b2o3bo250bo3b2o4bo2bo45b2o2bo2bo$694b2o3bo2b2o307b3o2bo
bo5b3o38b3o2bo7b2o$687bo11b2o7b3o3bo22b3o271bobo4bo5bobo3bo34b3ob2o4bo
3b2o$686bo3bo8b2o8bo4bo311bo3bo24b2o3bobo2b3ob4o2bobo2bo$691bo7bo8bo5b
o21bo3bo261b3o9b2o8b2o4bo23b3o3bo2bobo9b4ob2o181b2o$685bob2o9b2obo6bo
27bo3bo259b2o4b3o5b3o7bo30bo3bo7bo8bo3bo182b2o$176b2o40b2o465b2ob3obo
7bo4b2o52bo240b2ob3o2b2o4b3o41b2o7bo8b2obo$176b2o40b2o465bo6b3o8bo33b
3o18bo241b2o8b2o8bo45bo10b2o6bo$686bob2obo2bo8b3o52bo2bo240b3o2b2o2bo
8bo34b4o6bo20b2o$687bob2o3bo9bo54b3ob3o236bo4bo3bo7bo40bo3bo20b2o$689b
o3bo10bo55bo3b2o238bo3b3o45b4o$690bobo10bo55b3o2b3o291bo$760bobobo227b
o$761b2o229bobo$762bo229b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o22bo233b
2o56b2o$779b2o$778b2o6$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468b2o56b2o$10b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468b2o56b2o3$704b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$704b2o40b
2o272b2o40b2o3$1048bo$1048bobo$1048b2o$1263b2o$722bo540b2o$723b2o313bo
bo$722b2o315b2o$738b2o299bo$737b2o$723bo15bo$723bobo$723b2o$858b3o$
858bo$696b2o56b2o102b3o151b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o$859bo45bo$
859b3o41b2ob2o$861b3o39b2ob2o$861b2o41bob3o$903b3o3$10bo57b3o97b2o56b
2o156b3o$9bob2o57bo97b2o56b2o158bo$9bo3bo2b3o49bobobo311bobobo$9bo5bo
52b2o2b3o309b2o2b3o460bo62b2o$9b2obobo58b2o248b3o5bo57b2o313b2o40b2o
103bo10b2o40b2o8b2o104b2o40b2o$8bobobo4bo55b2o256b2o56b2o313b2o40b2o
114b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$8bobobob3o306b3o4b2o3bo514bobo$9bo3b2o44b3o8bo
252b3o9bo39b3o8bo463bobo$335bo$27bo44bo315bo$26b3o42bo315bo527b2o$25bo
bobo884bo348b2o$25bobobo883bo2bo346b2o$5b2o19b3o769b2o114bobo$3bo3bo
19bo44b2o248b2o64b2o407b2o116b2o$bo5bo64b2o248b2o64b2o409bo115b2o$bobo
b2o$o4bo$o4bo$o4bo$2b3o2$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o156b2o56b2o97b3o$
10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o55bo100b2o56b2o95b2obobo54bo$747b2o4b5o251b
2o3bo48b2o4b5o$746bobo5b2o251bo4bo49bobo5b2o$691bo4bo310bo5bo$689b3o3b
obo51b4ob2o2bo248bo5bo3bobo45b4ob2o2bo$96bobo590b2obo2bobo2b3o43bo2b4o
3b2o255bo3bo2bo41bo2b4o3b2o$97b2o589bo2bo3b2o3bob2o47bo257bo4bobo3bo
46bo$97bo591bo10bo3bo304bo4bo2bo2bo$168b2o56b2o473b2obo3bo5bo293bo5bo
2bobo$168b2o56b2o65bo392b2o13bo3b3ob2o3bo22bo2bo268bob2o40bo2bo$292bo
392bo2bo11b4o2b2o6bo21bo3bo269bo41bo3bo$292b3o390b2ob2o10bo4bo31bobo
313bobo$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o307bo2b3o9b6o32bo20b2o101b2o40b2o148bo20b
2o$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o308b2o2bobo7b2o3bo53b2o7b2o92b2o40b2o102b2o65b
2o7b2o$351b3o336bob2o8bo2bo52bobo6bo240b2o64bobo6bo$353bo336bobo9b3o
52bo2bo3bob2o305bo2bo3bob2o$352bo337b2o71b2o314b2o$227bo533bo2b2o311bo
2b2o$48bo168bo8b2obo529bobo313bobo$47b2o166b3o7bo2b3o529bo315bo186b2o$
47bobo164bo3bo2bo2b5ob2o913bo117b2o$171b3o40bo4b3o5b2obo465b2o56b2o21b
o234b2o56b2o74b2o$171bobo40b2obob3o2b6o466b2o56b2o22b2o232b2o56b2o73b
2o$171bo3bo40bo3b2o3b4o548b2o$169bo2b2obo$40bobo128bo3bo$41b2o129b2o
810bo$41bo125bo816bobo$167bo5bo810b2o$33bo134bo4bo175bo$10b2o20bo35b2o
98b3o55b2o98b2o20bo35b2o468b2o56b2o$10b2o20b3o33b2o156b2o98b2o20b3o33b
2o468b2o56b2o3$176bobo187bo337b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$177b2o188b2o335b2o
40b2o272b2o40b2o$177bo188b2o2$213bo$212bo$212b3o$721bo310b2o$722b2o
307bobo$18b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o71b3o40b2o40b2o343b2o310bo$18b2o40b2o114b
2o40b2o73bo40b2o40b2o531bo$292bo615b3o$724bo14b2o166b2o2bo128bo$108bo
615bobo11b2o171b2o127bobo$107b2o615b2o14bo167b3ob2o126b2o$107bobo751bo
bo45bo2b2o$860bo2bo44b3o352b2o$859b2o3bo46b2o133bobo214b2o$696b2o56b2o
108bo46b2o99b2o33b2o21b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o33bo22b2o$859b3o2bo$863b2o
39bo$860b3o41bobo$860b3o41b2o4$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$852b2o$704b2o40b2o104b2o8b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$
704b2o40b2o104bo9b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$851bo$851b2o$851b3o$852b2o118b2o$
847bo123bobo$973bo2$176b2o40b2o$176b2o40b2o579b2o$798b2o$800bo4$1263b
2o$1263b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o8$10bo57b3o97b2o56b2o156b3o$9bob2o57bo97b2o56b2o158bo$9bo3bo2b3o
49bobobo311bobobo$9bo5bo52b2o2b3o309b2o2b3o$9b2obobo58b2o248b3o5bo57b
2o471b2o40b2o$8bobobo4bo55b2o256b2o56b2o471b2o40b2o$8bobobob3o306b3o4b
2o3bo$9bo3b2o44b3o8bo252b3o9bo39b3o8bo$335bo$27bo44bo315bo$26b3o42bo
315bo$25bobobo$25bobobo$5b2o19b3o$3bo3bo19bo44b2o248b2o64b2o$bo5bo64b
2o248b2o64b2o$bobob2o$o4bo$o4bo$o4bo1199bo$2b3o1201b2o55b2o$1205b2o56b
2o$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o256b
2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o5$96bobo$97b2o$97bo$168b2o56b2o$
168b2o56b2o65bo$292bo$292b3o$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b
2o$351b3o$353bo$352bo$227bo$48bo168bo8b2obo$47b2o166b3o7bo2b3o$47bobo
164bo3bo2bo2b5ob2o$171b3o40bo4b3o5b2obo$171bobo40b2obob3o2b6o$171bo3bo
40bo3b2o3b4o$169bo2b2obo$40bobo128bo3bo$41b2o129b2o$41bo125bo$167bo5bo
1089b2o$33bo134bo4bo175bo913b2o$10b2o20bo35b2o98b3o55b2o98b2o20bo35b2o
310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o20b3o33b2o156b2o98b2o20b3o33b2o
310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o3$176bobo187bo$177b2o188b2o$177bo188b2o
2$213bo$212bo$212b3o3$18b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o71b3o40b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o
114b2o40b2o73bo40b2o40b2o$292bo2$108bo$107b2o$107bobo10$1263b2o$1263b
2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o55b3o98b2o56b2o97b3o57bo$10b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o50b2o3bo2b2o96b2o56b2o97bo57b2obo$694b
3o50bo3bob2o254bobobo49b3o2bo3bo$696bo51bob4obo2bo248b3o2b2o52bo5bo$
691bo5bob2obo45bo4b3ob2o248b2o58bobob2o$690bo6b2o3b2o45bobobobob2o248b
2o55bo4bobobo$690bobo10b2o44bo3bobobo307b3obobobo$691bo5bo2b2o49b2o3bo
254bo8b3o44b2o3bo$694b3o5b2o5bo28bo$698bo2bo6b3o27bo270bo44bo$698bo11b
o2b3o21b3o270bo42b3o$686b2o20b2o342bobobo$685bob2ob2o6b2o7bo344bobobo$
176b2o40b2o464b2o2b2ob2o6b2o36b3o313b3o19b2o$176b2o40b2o465bo6bobo8bo
2bo31bo19b2o248b2o44bo19bo3bo$686b4ob2ob2o7bobo32bo19bo2b2obo243b2o64b
o5bo$687bo5b2o64bob3obo309b2obobo$688b2obobo9b2o57bo313bo4bo$759bo6bo
309bo4bo$676bobo80bo2bobo311bo4bo$676b2o84bo314b3o186bo$677bo83b2o503b
o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o194bo$696b2o56b2o23bo232b2o56b2o$780bo$778b3o
3$983bobo$983b2o278b2o$984bo278b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468b
2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468b2o56b2o3$704b2o40b2o272b2o
40b2o$704b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o5$1033bo$1033b2o$723bo308bobo$724bo183b3o$
722b3o183bobo$906bo3bo297bo$906bob2o2bo295b2o$724bo181bo3bo128bobo165b
obo$722b2o184b2o129b2o$723b2o189bo125bo$859b2o2bo44bo5bo351bo$858b2o
48bo4bo134bo217bo$696b2o56b2o103b2o50b3o98b2o35bo20b2o194bo$696b2o56b
2o256b2o33b3o20b2o$859b2o2b2o$858bo$861b4o38bobo$859bo2bo40b2o$904bo$
1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o3$704b2o40b2o102b3o9b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$704b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o
114b2o40b2o$850b3o$851b2o$973bo$973b2o$972bobo3$1148bo$1148b2o$1147bob
o3$758bo$759bo$757bo2bo505bo$1266bo$854b2o56b2o352bo$694b5o53b2o5bo94b
2o56b2o96b5o53bobo$693b2obobo52b3o255b2obobo49bo4bo2b2o$692bo3bo54b2o
3bo251bo3bo50b2o6bobo$691b3ob2o53b2o5b2o248b3ob2o49b2o4bo2bob2o$692b2o
b2o5b2o47b2o4bo250b2ob2o5b2o42b2o9b2o$694bo2bo3b3o42bo7b2o254bo2bo3b3o
43b5obob2o$694b4o3bo2bo41bo10b2o251b4o3bo2bo43bo2bo195b2o$693bob2obo2b
3o42bo262bob2obo2b3o44bo2bo195b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o307b3o
2bo3b2o305b3o2bo3b2o35bo$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o307b3obo311b3ob
o39bo2bo22b2o$1053b3o$1053b3o20bo$862b2o40b2o179bo$692b2o64b2o102b2o
40b2o102b2o65b2o3bo4bo$692b2o64b2o248b2o64bobo5bobo$1074b2o4bobo$1074b
2o4b2o$1075b3o2bo$1075b3o$1088bo$1088b2o$696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o15bobo$
696b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o3$616bobo$616b2o366bobo$617bo366b2o$985bo280bo$
1266bo$787bo66b2o56b2o352bo$788bo65b2o56b2o$786b3o2$704b2o40b2o272b2o
40b2o$704b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o2$729b3o531b2o$729bo533b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o344bo124b3o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o468bo3b2o$
853b4ob2o3b2o167bo$852b2o2b3o3bo2bo166b2o$853bobo6bo2bo165bobo$854b2o
5b2ob2o$862b2o44b3o$908bo2bo128bobo$907bo3bo128b2o$912bo115bo12bo$908b
3ob2o114b2o$731bo180bo114bobo17bo$732bo174bo3b2o135bo$696b2o32b3o21b2o
98b2o55bo100b2o32b3o21b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o156b2o56b2o2$716bo187bobo$
714b2o188b2o$715b2o188bo2$867bo398bo$868bo397bo$866b3o397bo4$704b2o40b
2o114b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$704b2o40b2o41b3o70b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$789bo$
790bo472b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o586bo$10b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o586b2o$971bobo5$968bo$968b2o$967bobo4$696b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$1266b
o4$862b2o40b2o$862b2o40b2o2$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o4$908bo$908b2o$907bobo6$696b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$556bobo$556b2o$
557bo3$1266bo$1266bo$1266bo7$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$848bo$848b2o$847bobo8$696b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$
1266bo7$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o402bo$788b2o$787bobo10$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$1266bo7$1263b2o$728bo
534b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o342b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o341bobo12$496bobo197b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$496b2o198b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$497bo5$1266bo$1266bo$1266bo6$668bo$668b2o593b2o
$667bobo593b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o12$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$1266bo4$608bo$608b2o$607bobo$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$696b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$
1266bo2$548bo$548b2o$547bobo3$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o10$436bobo$436b2o$437bo258b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo$1266bo$
488bo777bo$488b2o$487bobo5$1263b2o$1263b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o12$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$428bo837bo$428b2o836bo$427bobo836bo$
60b3o$61bo$61b3o4$1263b2o$333b3o43bo883b2o$17b3o148b2o56b2o104bo2bo43b
o$17bo2bo147b2o56b2o104bo3bo42bo$17bob2o312b4o$8b2o60b2o252b2o9bo39bo
2bo7b2o$8b2o50b2o8b2o252b2o50b2o2bobo3b2o$60b2o315bo3b2o$381bo2$9bo
315bo$9bobo312bo$9b2o61bo251b3o$71bobo$70bo3bo$70bo3bo621b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o98b2o56b2o$6b2o62bo251b2o64b2o306b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$6b
2o63b3o248b2o64b2o$22b2o$22bobo$22bo2$1266bo$1266bo$10b2o56b2o256b2o
56b2o880bo$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o6$1263b2o$1263b2o$223b3o$168bobo50b4o
2b2o$165b2obo2bo48bobob5o$165b2obo2bo49b2o6bo$18b2o40b2o102bob2o51b6o
2b3o104b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o102b4o5bo45b2obobob2obo104b2o40b2o$174b2o43b
o2bo$167b2o6bo44b4o2b2o$164bo3b2obob3o$165b5o40b2o$168bo39bo2bo$209b3o
23b2o$216b2o15b2o2b2obo$231b2o5bo2bo454b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
82b2o80b2o69b2o4bo454b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$82bobo79b2o60bo4bo4b
ob3o$82bo147bo4b2obo$226bo2bo2bo2b2o$232bo43bobo$230bobo43b2o$231bo45b
o988bo$249bo1016bo$10b2o56b2o53bo44b2o56b2o22bo75b2o56b2o880bo$10b2o
56b2o51bobo44b2o56b2o20b3o75b2o56b2o$122b2o2$142bo$140b2o$141b2o$1263b
2o$1263b2o5$176b2o40b2o$176b2o40b2o8$696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$
696b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$198bo$196b2o$197b2o2$72b2o$203bo1062bo
$201bobo1062bo$9b3o156b2o32b2o22b2o97b3o938bo$7b2obobo52bobo100b2o56b
2o95b2obobo54bo$7b2o3bo310b2o3bo48b2o4b5o$5bo4bo56bo3bo249bo4bo49bobo
5b2o$5bo5bo52bo5b3o248bo5bo$5bo5bo3bobo46b3o3b3o248bo5bo3bobo45b4ob2o
2bo$11bo3bo2bo51b3o254bo3bo2bo41bo2b4o3b2o$7bo4bobo3bo40b3o261bo4bobo
3bo46bo881b2o$7bo4bo2bo2bo304bo4bo2bo2bo928b2o$6bo5bo2bobo304bo5bo2bob
o$7bob2o312bob2o40bo2bo$8bo315bo41bo3bo$367bobo$176b2o40b2o148bo20b2o$
6b2o64b2o102b2o40b2o102b2o65b2o7b2o$6b2o64b2o248b2o64bobo6bo$387bo2bo
3bob2o$393b2o$391bo2b2o$389bobo$390bo2$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o56b2o256b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o
56b2o4$298bo$298bobo$298b2o966bo$1266bo$168b2o56b2o1038bo$100bobo65b2o
56b2o$101b2o$101bo$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$18b2o40b2o272b2o40b2o$44bo$
43b2o1218b2o$43bobo124bo1092b2o$169b4o$167bo5bo$166bo3bo6b2o167b2o$
166bo5b2o2bo2bo165bobo$166b2obobo4bo2b2o166bo$168b2o5bo2b2o43bo$175b4o
43b3o$221b2o2bo128bo$225b2o127bobo$222b3ob2o126b2o$223bo2b2o$222b3o$
44bobo178b2o133bobo$10b2o33b2o21b2o98b2o55b2o99b2o33b2o21b2o310b2o56b
2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$10b2o33bo22b2o98b2o156b2o33bo22b2o310b2o56b2o
98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o2$29bo188bo$28bo189bobo$28b3o187b2o2$1266bo$180bob
o1083bo$181b2o1083bo$181bo3$18b2o40b2o42bo71b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$18b2o
40b2o41b2o71b2o40b2o114b2o40b2o$103bobo$1263b2o$1263b2o$286b2o$285bobo
$287bo11$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o
$10b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o310b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o6$1266bo
$1266bo$1266bo4$176b2o40b2o$176b2o40b2o2$1263b2o$1263b2o!
Twelve block trails would mean 24 hypothetical backward-glider helices. But as shown above, instead of using slow salvos, it becomes possible to build LWSS seeds directly -- or anything that's constructible by Gemini construction arms, as long as it's repeatable mod 31.

Rephasing will still be needed to hit the right spacetime coordinates with synchronized forward and backward streams, though, so I'm not entirely sure whether two 90-degree slow salvos will build an LWSS in a shorter total spaceship length, as opposed to a single slow salvo plus starting junk.

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Another crazy idea: might we be able to slow-salvo construct a useful seed using forward rakes, and skip the upward LWSS streams entirely? For example, does it work to build and trigger 90-degree LWSS seeds ahead of the spaceship, and crash the LWSSes together to make the block trails? Maybe horizontal *WSSes meeting reversed forward glider streams from the other side? Seems like something along those lines ought to work.

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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 11th, 2014, 12:06 pm

dvgrn wrote:Once we drop the idea of building trails incrementally starting from a single pair, it might be worth considering making the next jump up from six trails to twelve. This would make forward glider streams trivial again, without worrying about constructing them with slow salvos:
If we don't pursue the catamaran (that's a pity, it would make a good name for the spaceship ;)), then I don't see a need to have forward rakes at all. Constructing stuff with slow salvos is tedious, but certain. And it is not even clear, if bidirectional synthesis would repay almost double amount of spaceships to be built.
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Re: 31c/240 caterpillar working notes

Post by codeholic » January 11th, 2014, 1:27 pm

dvgrn wrote:Another crazy idea: might we be able to slow-salvo construct a useful seed using forward rakes, and skip the upward LWSS streams entirely? For example, does it work to build and trigger 90-degree LWSS seeds ahead of the spaceship, and crash the LWSSes together to make the block trails? Maybe horizontal *WSSes meeting reversed forward glider streams from the other side? Seems like something along those lines ought to work.
Did you mean something like

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x = 715, y = 370, rule = B3/S23
712bo$712bobo$712b2o27$625bo$625bobo$625b2o48$475bo$475bobo$475b2o10$
652bo$652bobo$652b2o15$388bo$388bobo$388b2o10$565bo$565bobo$565b2o36$
238bo$238bobo$238b2o10$415bo$415bobo$415b2o10$592bo$592bobo$592b2o3$
151bo$151bobo$151b2o10$328bo$328bobo$328b2o10$505bo$505bobo$505b2o29$o
2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o4$178bo$178bobo$178b2o10$355bo$355bobo$355b2o7$100bo$
99bobo$100b2o$120bo2bo408bo$124bo407bobo$120bo3bo407b2o$121b4o14$268bo
$268bobo$268b2o9$100bo57bo$99bobo55bobo285bo$100b2o56b2o285bobo$240bo
2bo201b2o$244bo$240bo3bo$241b4o25$100bo57bo99bo57bo$99bobo55bobo97bobo
55bobo$100b2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$360bo2bo$364bo$360bo3bo$361b4o25$100bo57b
o99bo57bo99bo57bo$99bobo55bobo97bobo55bobo97bobo55bobo$100b2o56b2o98b
2o56b2o98b2o56b2o$480bo2bo$484bo$480bo3bo$481b4o!
This may be useful to almost halve the number of spaceships to build, but still it can be done without forward rakes. One just needs a glider + spaceship salvo reaction that produces a LWSS in the orthogonal direction. I think it will take 3-4 spaceships.

By the way, as you may know, boats can also be used as trails (but no other single spartan objects, I did an exhaustive gencols search).

EDIT: I doubt that one can skip LWSS streams entirely, because even slow salvo contruction with forward rakes needs some target to be shot at.
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