goldenratio wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2020, 5:04 pm

Crossposting this reduced add-Silver's p5 component from the discord (reaction by me, workable synthesis by Kazyan): ...

Extrementhusiast wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2020, 10:41 pm

Here are the eleven six-glider versions that I found: ...

These are great! They save 5 gliders over the previous 11-glider converters. So far, I've found 67 syntheses that this improves, 6 that it does not, and 1 that it improves half of (i.e. there are two Silver's P5s on the same side, and either one can be added the new way, but after that, the other one cannot) (see below). I have 98 more to examine; of these, it looks like there are 10 that it will work for half of.

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```
x = 110, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
83boo18boo$83bobo17bobo$88boo18boo$oo6bo39bo37boobo16boobo$o7b3o8boo
18boo6bobo9boo18boo4boo12boo4boo$bobbo6bo7bo19bo8bobo8bo19bo19bo$3boo
5bo9bobbo16bobbo6bo9bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$3bo3bobo12boo18boo5bo12boo18b
oo3boo13boo3boo$bbo4boo13bo3bo15bo3bobo13bo3bo15bo3bobbo12bo3bobbo$bb
oo17bo4b3o12bo4boo13bo4b3o12bo4bobo12bo4bobbo$21boo6bo11boo18boo6bo11b
oo4bo13boo4boo$28bo39bo$25bobo39bo$25boo37bobo$64boo14$13boo$12bobo$8b
oo$8boboo$11boo$oo$o$bobbo4boo$3boo4bo$3bo3bobo$bbo4boo$bboo!
```

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑September 4th, 2020, 7:52 pm

Does anyone have a idea of how to synthesize these? (Both are Silver's P5 based) ...

I created a 24-glider synthesis of the first one on 2019-11-15. Sadly, the new 6-glider converters don't work. For the second one, I haven't been able to simultaneously insert the Z while adding the two Silver's P5s in this (trans+trans) version, nor the other two (cis+trans and cis+cis) versions obtained by flipping the orientation of or both of the Silver's P5s.

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```
x = 110, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
66bo$67boo$54bo11boo$55bo$53b3o14bo$37bo26bo3boo$36bo20boo4bobo3boo$
19bo13boob3o19boobbobbo$o18bobo10bobo22bo5boo$boo3bo12boo13bo59boo$oo
bbobo87bo$5boo78bo9bobbo$18bobo15boo8boo18boo8boo6bo12boo7boo$4bo6boo
5boo17bo3boo4bo10bo8bo3boo4bo6b3o10bo3boobbobo$4boo5boo6bo16bo4boo3bo
11boo6bo4boo3bo19bo5bo$3bobo30boo8boo9bobo6boo8boo18boo8bo$17boo86b4o$
17bobobboo83bobo$3boo12bo3boo26bo58boo$bbobo18bo25bobo27boo4bo$4bo40b
3oboo27bobbo3bobo$47bo25boo3bobo4boo$46bo25bobo4bo$74bo14boo$88boo$76b
oo12bo$76bobo$76bo12$4boo28boo$4bo29bo$5bobbo26bobbo$7boo28boo27boo$7b
o3boo24bo3boo23bo4boo$6bo4boo23bo4boo24bo3boo$6boo7boo19boo7boo8boo10b
oo6boo8boo$14boo28boo10bo8bobbo5boo10bo$15boo28boo5bobbo8bo10boo5bobbo
$14boo7boo19boo6boo10boo8boo6boo$18boo4bo23boo3bo24boo3bo$18boo3bo24b
oo4bo23boo4bo$22boo29boo28boo$22bobbo$26bo$25boo!
```

Ian07 wrote: ↑September 4th, 2020, 4:45 pm

This synthesis from Mark Niemiec's site is invalid due to gliders crossing paths - anyone wanna try to fix it? ... This is similarly problematic: ...

The first can easily be fixed by rotating the traffic light generator. The second one looks like it will need more work.

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```
x = 130, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
6bobo4bobo$7boo5boo$7bo6bo$$40bo$38boo$29bo9boo$29bobo$4bobo22boo$5boo
$5bo60bobo4bobo$67boo5boo$67bo6bo$$80bo$78boo$69bo9boo38b3o$7bo61bobo$
8bo55bobobboo$6b3o56boo13b3o40bobo$65bo14bo40b3ob3o$81bo38bo7bo$120bo
bb3obbo$60boo25boo30boobo3boboo$61boo23boo34bo3bo$60bo27bo30boobo3bo$
71b3o46bobb3o$67bo5bo42bo3bo$68bo3bo6bo36bo4b3o$40b3o23b3o9boo36bo6bo$
40bo19boo16bobo$41bo19boo$60bo7boo$oo45boo20boo$boo43boo20bo$o47bo$11b
3o60bo$13bo59boo$12bo26bo33bobo$38boo$oo36bobo$boo$o7boo$9boo$8bo$$34b
o$33boo$33bobo!
```