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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei47 » May 20th, 2021, 6:38 pm

The switch engine can't get in :(

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x = 13, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobo$o$bo2bo$3b3o5$11b2o$12bo$9b3o$9bo$10b2o$11bo$10bo$10b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bibunsekibun » May 21st, 2021, 6:07 pm

c/8 Partial

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$4bo2$3b3o$bobo2$3o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » May 21st, 2021, 6:39 pm

This makes a fishhook.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
o10b2o$3o9bo$3bo8bob2o$2b2o9bobo5$19b2o$19b2o$bo$bobo$b3o$3bo17$8b2o$
8b2o5$13b2o$9b2o2b2o$8bobo$8bo$7b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by EvinZL » May 21st, 2021, 8:29 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
May 21st, 2021, 6:39 pm
This makes a fishhook.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
o10b2o$3o9bo$3bo8bob2o$2b2o9bobo5$19b2o$19b2o$bo$bobo$b3o$3bo17$8b2o$
8b2o5$13b2o$9b2o2b2o$8bobo$8bo$7b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » May 21st, 2021, 9:02 pm

I tried to post a blocker in the pattern modification game, but it was too late.

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = TripleLife
.2F$.2F2$8.F$F.2F.FDF$F.F5.F$.F$.2F$.2F$.2F!
I also found a pure glider generator

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = TripleLife
.2F$.2F3$F.2F$F.F6.2F$.F7.F$.2F6.F$.2F7.F$.2F!
Another pure glider generator:

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x = 21, y = 14, rule = LifeSuper
6.2A$6.2A2$16.A$15.A$.2C12.A4.A$2.C12.5A$C$2C2$15.5A$15.A4.A$15.A$16.
A!

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » May 22nd, 2021, 1:17 am

An odd-symmetric pair of converging gliders (ie. about to make a bi-block) can be catalyzed by a beehive into making another beehive, which I thought was kind of neat even if it's mostly pointless:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bo2bo$9b2o5$b2o7b2o$obo7bobo$2bo7bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bibunsekibun » May 22nd, 2021, 10:01 pm

Teardrop Pusher

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o4$5b3o$5bo2bo2bo$5bo5bo$6bo3b2o2$2o6bo$2o4b3o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by cgoler2 » May 24th, 2021, 8:37 am

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x = 4, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2obo$b3o$2bo6$2b2o$b2o$2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by ihatecorderships » May 24th, 2021, 12:15 pm

Glider-blinker mess:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = LifeSuper
9.M$9.M$9.M6$3M$2.M$.M!
Funny how the B's FNG cleans up the debris of the Herschel.

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = LifeSuper
13.D$12.3D$11.2D2.D9$C$C.C$3C$2.C12.2M$15.2M!
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Post by GUYTU6J » May 24th, 2021, 12:31 pm

ihatecorderships wrote:
May 24th, 2021, 12:15 pm
...
Funny how the B's FNG cleans up the debris of the Herschel.

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = LifeSuper
13.D$12.3D$11.2D2.D9$C$C.C$3C$2.C12.2M$15.2M!
That's the basis of the periodic conduit Lx73, so it could be useful. Not sure why we don't have a stable HLx73H yet...

EDIT: 1/2 LoM + block + boat = beehive + G3 glider pair

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2bo$3bo2bo$3bob2o2bo$3b2o3b2o$4bobobo$5b3o$5b3o$2o11bo$2o10bobo$
12b2o!
EDIT2: a p4 hassler I (re)discovered:

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2o4b2o$o2bobo4bobo2bo$3o10b3o$3b2o6b2o$2bo2b6o2bo$2b2o8b2o3$8b2o$
8bobo$7b3o$7bobo$8bo2$9b2o$4b2obo4bob2o$4bo10bo$5b2o6b2o$2b3o2b6o2b3o$
2bo2bo8bo2bo$3b2o10b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by hotdogPi » May 26th, 2021, 1:37 pm

I don't know why my program found this as a solution (if it reaches three cells behind the spark, it discards it since it is assumed that the active region would hit the sparker), but it's a cool reaction nonetheless:

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
6b2o9b2o2$7bo9bo$6bobo7bobo$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7b2o7b2o$o2b2o15b2o2bo$obo2bo
13bo2bobo$3bobo13bobo$4bo15bo6$4bo15bo$3bobo13bobo$obo2bo13bo2bobo$o2b
2o15b2o2bo$7b2o7b2o$6bo2bo5bo2bo$6bobo7bobo$7bo9bo2$6b2o9b2o!
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei47 » May 26th, 2021, 1:44 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
May 26th, 2021, 1:37 pm
if it reaches three cells behind the spark, it discards it since it is assumed that the active region would hit the sparker
Be careful. There is a phase in 104P9 where one can draw in a spark 3 cells behind the domino spark and it won't interact with the 104P9. It's likely not possible to actually get the spark there, but my point is that sparkers might have that much fallback.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by EvinZL » May 26th, 2021, 2:01 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
May 26th, 2021, 1:37 pm
I don't know why my program found this as a solution (if it reaches three cells behind the spark, it discards it since it is assumed that the active region would hit the sparker), but it's a cool reaction nonetheless:

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
6b2o9b2o2$7bo9bo$6bobo7bobo$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7b2o7b2o$o2b2o15b2o2bo$obo2bo
13bo2bobo$3bobo13bobo$4bo15bo6$4bo15bo$3bobo13bobo$obo2bo13bo2bobo$o2b
2o15b2o2bo$7b2o7b2o$6bo2bo5bo2bo$6bobo7bobo$7bo9bo2$6b2o9b2o!
(zoom out before playing it)
Its not entirely useless, since it could be possible to perturb its sparks to respark the loaves

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bibunsekibun » May 26th, 2021, 5:10 pm

P30+ Partial

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o2$7b2o$7b2o3$3b2o6b2o$2bo2bo4bo2bo$2bobo6bobo$o2bo3b
2o3bo2bo$7b2o2$4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » May 26th, 2021, 9:05 pm

bibunsekibun wrote:
May 26th, 2021, 5:10 pm
P30+ Partial

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o2$7b2o$7b2o3$3b2o6b2o$2bo2bo4bo2bo$2bobo6bobo$o2bo3b
2o3bo2bo$7b2o2$4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o!
P88:

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x = 111, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
17b2o6b2o57b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o57b2o6b2o$39b2o29b2o$37bo2bo29bo2bo$37b2o
33b2o$37b3o31b3o$39bo13bo3bo13bo$b2o37b2o10bobobobo10b2o37b2o$obo49bob
obobo49bobo$obob2o26b2o5b2o9b2obobobob2o9b2o5b2o26b2obobo$bobobo26b2o
16bo2bo3bo2bo16b2o26bobobo$3bo35bo12bob3obo12bo35bo$bo2bo46b2obobob2o
46bo2bo$4bo32b3o10bo2bo3bo2bo10b3o32bo$o3bo9bo3b2ob2ob2o12b3o10bob2ob
2obo10b3o12b2ob2ob2o3bo9bo3bo$o3bo9bo3b2o4b2o2bobo19b2obo3bob2o19bobo
2b2o4b2o3bo9bo3bo$4bo4b3o6b2ob2ob2o3b2o7b2o11bo3bo3bo11b2o7b2o3b2ob2ob
2o6b3o4bo$bo2bo4bobo17b2o20bo3bo3bo20b2o17bobo4bo2bo$3bo4b2o28bo12bob
2ob2obo12bo28b2o4bo$bobobo2b2o29bo12bo5bo12bo29b2o2bobobo$obob2o4bo27b
2o10b2o7b2o10b2o27bo4b2obobo$obo34b3o31b3o34bobo$b2o26b2o6bo12bo2bo3bo
2bo12bo6b2o26b2o$29b3o3b3o12bo2bo3bo2bo12b3o3b3o$28bob2o6b2o11bo3bo3bo
11b2o6b2obo$29b2obo5b2o13b2ob2o13b2o5bob2o$29b3o22bobo22b3o$15b2o14bo
21b2ob2o21bo14b2o$16bo35b2o3b2o35bo$13b3o12b2o22bo5bo22b2o12b3o$13bo
10bo3b2o4b2o39b2o4b2o3bo10bo$18b2o2b2ob2obo5bobo14bobo3bobo14bobo5bob
2ob2o2b2o$18b2o2bo4bo8bo13bo3bobo3bo13bo8bo4bo2b2o$22b3o11b2o12bo3bobo
3bo12b2o11b3o2$51b3o3b3o3$53b2o$29b5o17bo3bo21b5o$28bo4bo16bo4bo21bo4b
o$33bo21bo21bo$28bo3bo17bo3bo23bo3bo$30bo21bo27bo$23bob2o57b2obo$21b3o
b2o17bo8b2o11bo17b2ob3o$20bo22bobo6bo2bo9bobo22bo$21b3ob2o4bo2b7o2bo2b
o6bobo8bo2bo2b2obob2o2bo4b2ob3o$23bobo5b4ob3ob4o3bo6bo8bo3b4ob3ob4o5bo
bo$23bobo3b2o13b4o2b2o7b2o2b4o13b2o3bobo$24bo3bo3b5ob5o8bo7bo8b3obobob
3o3bo3bo$29b3o3b2ob2o3b8o9b8obo2bobo2bob3o$31bobo7bobo23bob2o5b2obo$
32b3o5b3o2b2o2b2o9b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o$29bo5b2ob2o6bo2b2o9b2o2bo6bo3bo5bo$
29b5o7b5o19b7o3b7o$34bobobobo29bo5bo$31b2o9b2o23b2o9b2o$31bob2o5b2obo
23bo11bo$28b2obobobo3bobobob2o17b2obobo2bobo2bobob2o$28bo2bo4bobo4bo2b
o17bo2bob4ob4obo2bo$30bob3obobob3obo21bobo3bobo3bobo$26b5o3bobobobo3b
5o13b5o3bobobobo3b5o$26bo4b4obobob4o4bo13bo4b3o2bobo2b3o4bo$27bo2bo3bo
bobobo3bo2bo15bo2bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo2bo$26b2o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b2o13b2o2b3o3b
obo3b3o2b2o$36bobo31bobobobo$30b3o3bobo3b3o21b3o3bobo3b3o$29bo2bobobob
obobo2bo19bo2bobobobobobo2bo$29b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o19b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o$
34bo5bo29bo5bo$33bo7bo2$32bo9bo25bo9bo$67b3o7b3o$30b3obo5bob3o21bob3o
5b3obo$29bob2o9b2obo19bo3bo7bo3bo$29b2obo9bob2o18bo3bo9bo3bo$27bob3o
11b3obo15b3obo11bob3o$64b3o13b3o$29bo15bo19bo15bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei47 » May 27th, 2021, 9:01 pm

There is an extraordinarily nice way to eat the gliders of this P24 gun on a torus.

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x = 40, y = 31, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
3b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o4b2ob2o$3bo4bobo3b2o3b2o3bobob2o$4b3obo5bobobobo5bo$6b
obo2bo11bo2bo$9bo15bo$3bobo7bob2ob2obo$b3ob3o5bo2bobo2bo$o7bo4b3o3b3o
7b2o3bo$bob6o19bo2bobobo2bo$b2o4bo20bob2obob4o$3bo3b2o18b2o4bo$2bobo2b
obo10bo4bo3b4ob2ob2o$3bo2bo13bo7bobobobobo2bo$6bo3bo2b2o9bo3bo3bo2bo2b
2o$6bo3bo2b2o9bo6b2o$6bo6bo14b3obo2bo$6bo2bo11bo3bo4bo2b3o$7bo14bo4b2o
bobo$5bobobo10b3o5bobo2b3o$4bobob2o18bobo4bo$4bobo6b5o11bo$5b2o4b3obob
3o$10bo4bo4bo6bo$10bob2o2bob2obo6bo$11bo2b2o3bobo4b3o$12b2o2bo2bob2o$
14bo4bobo2bo$14b4ob2o2b2o$18bo14bo$16bobo15bo$16b2o14b3o!
EDIT: B+Pond=Block+Bipond

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bo2bo$5bo2bo$6b2o5$bo$3o$ob2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bibunsekibun » May 29th, 2021, 6:45 pm

Loaf transport reaction

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$8b2o2$5bo$4b3o$4b3o3$b2o$o2bo$obo$bo$4bo$3b3o$2b2ob2o$3b3o$4bo$7b
2o$7b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by ihatecorderships » June 1st, 2021, 9:06 pm

Utterly useless p2 billard table whose stator is four shillelaghs.

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2A5.2A$A2.2A.A.A$.2A.A.A$4.A2.A$.2A3.2A$.A2.A$2.A.A.2A$A.A.2A2.A$2A5.
2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » June 1st, 2021, 9:50 pm

ihatecorderships wrote:
June 1st, 2021, 9:06 pm
Utterly useless p2 billard table whose stator is four shillelaghs.
It also works with snakes. That version is known as snake pit.



Edit: Here's a useless fishhook→cap reaction.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by pcallahan » June 2nd, 2021, 8:51 pm

Just playing around with gencols.

Two gliders hit a loaf. The loaf comes back and sends one glider 90° but also leaves a lot of junk. There might be an easy way to suppress the lower two blocks.

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x = 22, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o6$9bo$10b2o$9b2o2$19b2o$18bo2bo$18bobo$19bo!
Loaf is restored, this time without any gliders. Still, a lot of junk. Even more useless than above.

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x = 27, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o19$21bo$19bobo$20b2o7$24b2o$23bo2bo$24bobo$25bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Jormungant » June 3rd, 2021, 7:48 am

Not sure if this lom interaction was investigated:

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x = 25, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2$9.2A$8.A.A$5.B2.BA$4.5B$.B2.6B$.2A.6B$ABA2.5B$ABA2.5B$2A3.5B2A$.6B
2.A2BA2.2A$9.ABAB3.A2.A$10.A4B.A.A.A$12.B2A.A2.A$12.BAB.A$10.A4.A$10.
5A2$12.A$11.A.A$12.A!
Came accross this while trying to fix the timed 2g-to-g, but I did not manage to fix it fully:

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x = 52, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
3$3.A$4.A$2.3A6$11.A$12.2A$11.2A2$21.2A$20.A2.A$20.A.A$21.A6$27.4B$
27.5B$28.4B2A$31.A2BA2.2A$31.ABAB3.A2.A$15.3B14.A4B.A.A.A$15.4B15.B2A
.A2.A$15.3B16.BAB.A$15.3B14.A4.A$15.2B15.5A2$15.2B17.A$8.2A5.2A16.A.A
$9.A5.A18.A$6.3A7.3A$6.A11.A!
It seems it does the same interaction as the following, but without the need for a clock:

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#N P124 lumps of muck hassler
#O Dean Hickerson
#C Discovered July 31, 1994
#C https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/P124_lumps_of_muck_hassler
#C https://www.conwaylife.com/patterns/p124lumpsofmuckhassler.rle
x = 39, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
20bo$14b2o3bobo3b2o$13bobo4bo4bobo$13bo13bo$10b2obo13bob2o$10b2obobob
7obobob2o$13bobo9bobo$13bobo9bobo$14bo3bobobo3bo$32bo$32bobo$31bobo$
33bo$3bo$3b3o$6bo30b2o$5b2o30b2o3$13b3o$11b2o2bo$2o9bo2b2o16b2o$2o9b3o
18bo$17bo15b3o$16bobo16bo$5bo12b2o$5bobo$4bobo$6bo$12bo11bo$11bobo3b3o
3bobo$11bob4o3b4obo$8b2obo13bob2o$8b2ob2o2b2o3b2o2b2ob2o$11bo13bo$11bo
bo4bo4bobo$12b2o3bobo3b2o$18bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by hotdogPi » June 3rd, 2021, 8:51 am

It appears to work equally well without the boat.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

S: SKOP
G: gun

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Jormungant » June 3rd, 2021, 10:12 am

hotdogPi wrote:
June 3rd, 2021, 8:51 am
It appears to work equally well without the boat.
I see, then I guess that was already investigated fully then...

Anyways... Fixed!

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x = 56, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
6$24.4B.4B$6.A17.8B7.2A$7.A16.7B7.B2AB4.A$5.3A15.10B.3B2.2B3.3A$22.
18B3.A$22.20B.2A$22.23B$22.21B$22.22B$14.A7.21B$15.2A5.22B$14.2A6.22B
$22.23B$22.2B2A18B$22.BA2BA19B$22.BABA20B$22.2BA20B$22.18B2.2B$22.17B
2.2B$22.16B2.B2AB$22.6B.7B5.2A$22.6B.7B$22.5B3.4B$30.5B$31.4B2A$34.A
2BA2.2A$34.ABAB3.A2.A$18.3B14.A4B.A.A.A$18.4B15.B2A.A2.A$18.3B16.BAB.
A$18.3B14.A4.A$18.2B15.5A2$18.2B17.A$11.2A5.2A16.A.A$12.A5.A18.A$9.3A
7.3A$9.A11.A!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bibunsekibun » June 4th, 2021, 4:57 am

Table on Table

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3bo5bo$3b2o3b2o$3bo5bo5$bo9bo$obo7bobo$2o9b2o!
Edit:6c/30 Reaction

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3bo5bo$2b3o3b3o6$b2o7b2o$obo7bobo$2o9b2o!
sorry I can only speak Japanese, English is made by machine translation
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by HartmutHolzwart » June 4th, 2021, 5:41 am

Isn‘t that basically the same reaction as in the PPS ships?
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Pre-p ... paceship

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