Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

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Sphenocorona
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » December 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am

Here, have some weird, useless conduits:

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x = 122, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
3.2D3.3D5.D4.4D2.4D2.3D16.2D3.3D3.D2.4D2.4D2.D2.D8.3D5.D4.D2.4D2.4D2.
D2.D$2.D2.D2.D2.D2.D.D.D5.D5.D2.D2.D14.D2.D2.D2.D2.D5.D5.D2.D2.D8.D2.
D2.D.D.D2.D5.D5.D2.D2.D$2.D2.D2.D2.D3.3D6.D5.D2.D2.D14.D2.D2.D2.D2.D
5.D5.D2.D2.D8.D2.D3.3D3.D5.D5.D2.D2.D$2.D2.D2.3D3.2D.2D4.D5.D3.3D15.D
2.D2.3D3.D2.4D2.4D2.4D8.3D3.2D.2D2.D2.4D2.4D2.4D$2.D2.D2.D2.D3.3D4.D
5.D4.D2.D14.D2.D2.D2.D2.D2.D5.D5.D2.D8.D2.D3.3D3.D2.D5.D5.D2.D$2.D.D
3.D2.D2.D.D.D3.D4.D5.D2.D14.D.D3.D2.D2.D2.D5.D5.D2.D8.D2.D2.D.D.D2.D
2.D5.D5.D2.D$3.D.D2.3D5.D5.D4.D5.D2.D15.D.D2.3D3.D2.4D2.4D2.D2.D2.4D
2.3D5.D4.D2.4D2.4D2.D2.D9$83.2A.2A$84.A.A$79.2A.A5.A.2A$78.A.A.2A3.2A
.A.A$77.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$77.7AB.B7A$66.2A13.3B.B.3B13.2A$67.A11.3AB.
3B.B3A11.A$66.A11.A.BA3BA3BAB.A11.A$66.2A2.2A6.2A3.BABAB3.2A6.2A2.2A$
17.3B49.A.A11.BABAB11.A.A$15.6B11.2A30.4A.A13.2BA2B13.A.4A$15.6B7.2A
2.A.A28.A3.A.2A12.2B.2B12.2A.A3.A$.2A10.10B5.A.A.A2.A27.2A3.3B10.9B
10.3B3.2A$A2.A2.2A4.11B6.BA.AB2A22.2A5.2B2.5B.B3.13B3.B.5B2.2B5.2A$.
2A2.A.A4.12B5.2ABA25.A2.4A3B.33B.3B4A2.A$3.2A.B4.14B4.3BA.2A23.A.A2.A
6BC27BC6BA2.A.A$3.A2.2B.21B.BABA2.A20.2A2.2A6BCBC25BCBC6B2A2.2A$2A.A.
22B2A2B.BA2.2A22.A.A.B.5BC7B3D7B3D7BC5B.B.A.A$A2.A.2A18B.A2BA2B28.A2.
A5.12BD7BD12B5.A2.A$2.2A.2A12BC7B2A2B.BA2.2A23.2A6.5B.B2.2B3D2BC2B3D
2B2.B.5B6.2A$6.2B.2B.6B3C9B.BABA2.A30.3B8.5B3C5B8.3B$13.4B5CB6.3BA.2A
28.A2.A.2A8.4B5C4B8.2A.A2.A$12.4B2C3B2C6.2ABA31.4A.A8.4B2C3B2C4B8.A.
4A$11.12B6.BA.AB2A33.A.A7.13B7.A.A$11.11B6.A.A.A2.A30.2A2.2A9.9B9.2A
2.2A$10.12B6.2A2.A.A31.A14.9B14.A$10.11B11.2A33.A16.3B16.A$12.5B.3B
45.2A16.3B16.2A$12.BD3B2.B65.B$13.3D$14.D!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by JP21 » December 23rd, 2020, 1:49 am

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x = 5, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o$o$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo
$2bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$4bo$4bo$4bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » December 23rd, 2020, 12:56 pm

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x = 12, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o3$3b6ob2o$3b6ob2o$10b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o$
3b2ob6o$3b2ob6o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 23rd, 2020, 1:34 pm

wwei23 wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:56 pm

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x = 12, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o3$3b6ob2o$3b6ob2o$10b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o5b2o$3b2o$
3b2ob6o$3b2ob6o!

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x = 16, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6ob2o$6ob2o$7b2o$2o5b2o$2o5b2o$2o5b2o$2o$2ob6o$2ob6o4$7b6ob2o$7b6ob2o
$14b2o$7b2o5b2o$7b2o5b2o$7b2o5b2o$7b2o$7b2ob6o$7b2ob6o!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » December 23rd, 2020, 9:59 pm

Killer toad, not particularly useful here, but might be useful somewhere else. Still pretty interesting.

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x = 12, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
bo$o2bo$o2bo$2bo8bo$9b3o$10bo!
EDIT: Just for fun :P

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x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3o$b3o2$5b2obo8bo2b2o$6b3o7bobo2bo$7bo8bobobo$15b2obob2o$14bo3bo3bo$
14bo4bobobo$14bo3b2o3bo$14bo4bob2o$14bo3bo$15b2obob5o$16bobo2bo2bo$7b
2o7bo2bo$7b2o8b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 23rd, 2020, 10:10 pm

wwei23 wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 9:59 pm
Just for fun :P
It might be feasible to turn a B-sequence into an edgeshot century sequence through perturbing the back by perturbing an R-sequence in a certain way.
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bubblegum » December 23rd, 2020, 10:15 pm

wwei23 wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 9:59 pm
EDIT: Just for fun :P

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x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3o$b3o2$5b2obo8bo2b2o$6b3o7bobo2bo$7bo8bobobo$15b2obob2o$14bo3bo3bo$
14bo4bobobo$14bo3b2o3bo$14bo4bob2o$14bo3bo$15b2obob5o$16bobo2bo2bo$7b
2o7bo2bo$7b2o8b2o!
+1 BTS, -1 periodicity constraint

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x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
3o$b3o2$5b2obo$6b3o$7bo5$14b2o$12bo2bo$12b3o2$7b2o3b2obob2o$7b2o4bob2o
bo$13bo$12b2o!
Each day is a hidden opportunity, a frozen waterfall that's waiting to be realised, and one that I'll probably be ignoring
sonata wrote:
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conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » December 23rd, 2020, 10:33 pm

BTS memory bit. Good luck reading (or writing) it though.

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x = 42, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o26$9b2o21bo$10b2o18b3o$9b2o2b2o15bo6b2o$9bo3b2o15bo4bo2bo$35b
3o2$35b2obob2o$36bob2obo$36bo$10b2o23b2o$10bo$11bo$10b2o10$9b2o$10b2o$
9bo10$3o$2bo$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 24th, 2020, 12:46 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 10:33 pm
BTS memory bit. Good luck reading (or writing) it though.
That should yield glider syntheses for xs21_g6p2c88cz11wdb and xs22_4aik5jzw4701156. Unfortunately, I can't submit glider syntheses to Catagolue. Can you please submit them? (You only need to submit the conversion step and the block deletion if you use a B-heptomino instead of creating a Herschel directly because Catagolue already has glider syntheses for the BTS and BTF.)



Edit: I shall make it convenient for you.

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x = 130, y = 129, rule = B3/S23
113bo$9bo102bo$8bo103b3o$8b3o4$107b2o$107b2o$25b2o98b2o$23bo2bo95b2o2b
o$23b3o95bo2b2o$4b2o116bo$3bobo17b2obob2o93b2obob2o$5bo18bob2obo94bob
2obo$24bo99bo$23b2o98b2o10$2o$b2o$o72$113bo$9bo102bo$8bo103b3o$8b3o4$
107b2o$107b2o$25b2o98b2o$23bo2bo95b2o2bo$23b3o95bo2b2o$4b2o116bo$3bob
o17b2obo96b2obo$5bo18bob3o95bob3o$24bo4bo94bo4bo$23b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o10$
2o$b2o$o!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bubblegum » December 24th, 2020, 1:16 am

MathAndCode wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 12:46 am
That should yield glider syntheses for xs21_g6p2c88cz11wdb and xs22_4aik5jzw4701156. Unfortunately, I can't submit glider syntheses to Catagolue. Can you please submit them? (You only need to submit the conversion step and the block deletion if you use a B-heptomino instead of creating a Herschel directly because Catagolue already has glider syntheses for the BTS and BTF.)
Casually noting a component, and I believe Catagolue may know how to delete blocks already.

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x = 33, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bo$8b3o4$28bo$26b3o$25bo$23bo2bo$23b4o$4b2o$3bobo17b2o$5bo18bo$23b
o$23b2o10$2o$b2o$o!
Each day is a hidden opportunity, a frozen waterfall that's waiting to be realised, and one that I'll probably be ignoring
sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Ian07 » December 24th, 2020, 1:03 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 12:46 am
Unfortunately, I can't submit glider syntheses to Catagolue.
What exactly do you mean by this? Are you unable to access the site itself, or does it just give an error when submitting synths?

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Ian07 wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 1:03 pm
What exactly do you mean by this? Are you unable to access the site itself, or does it just give an error when submitting synths?
I've tried to submit syntheses at multiple points in the past. The site doesn't give me an error message, but when I look at Catagolue, even weeks later, the syntheses that I have submitted have not shown up.
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bubblegum » December 24th, 2020, 6:35 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm
I've tried to submit syntheses at multiple points in the past. The site doesn't give me an error message, but when I look at Catagolue, even weeks later, the syntheses that I have submitted have not shown up.
Make sure that the syntheses are cheaper (or some other definition of better Catagolue understands) than the ones shown and that your browser isn't loading a cached copy.
Each day is a hidden opportunity, a frozen waterfall that's waiting to be realised, and one that I'll probably be ignoring
sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 24th, 2020, 7:01 pm

bubblegum wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 6:35 pm
Make sure that the syntheses are cheaper (or some other definition of better Catagolue understands) than the ones shown and that your browser isn't loading a cached copy.
I made sure that my syntheses were either better than the synthesis that Catagolue showed or for an object that Catagolue did not yet have a synthesis for, and I don't recall caching being a problem for me before.
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 24th, 2020, 8:32 pm

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
10.2D$4.2A5.2D$4.2A5.D$10.2C$10.2C$3.A4.3C$2.A.A4.C$3.A13.2A$3A14.A.A
$A18.A$9.A3.2A4.2A$8.A.A2.2A$8.2A!

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x = 22, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
13.D$12.3D$11.2D.D2$2A$2A$18.2A$18.A.A$11.C8.A$11.2C7.2A$9.3C$9.2C4$8.
2A$9.A$6.3A$6.A!

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x = 160, y = 140, rule = LifeHistory
37.2A$37.A.A$39.A4.2A$35.4A.2A2.A2.A$35.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$38.A.A.A.A$39.2A
.A.A$43.A2$29.2A$30.A7.2A$30.A.A5.2A$31.2A7$41.2A$41.A$42.3A$44.A15$3.
2A$4.A$2.A$2.5A14.2A$7.A13.A$4.3A12.A.A66.A$3.A15.2A65.3A$3.4A78.A$.2A
3.A3.2A73.2A$A2.3A4.2A$2A.A108.2A$3.A89.2A17.A.A$3.2A89.A19.A4.2A$94.
A.2A12.4A.2A2.A2.A$86.2A4.3A2.A12.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$11.2A73.2A3.A3.2A16.A
.A.A.A$12.A78.4A19.2A.A.A$9.3A65.2A15.A23.A$9.A66.A.A12.3A$76.A13.A13.
2A$75.2A14.5A9.A7.2A$95.A9.A.A5.2A$93.A12.2A$93.2A6$116.2A$116.A$117.
3A$119.A7$87.A62.A$87.3A58.3A$90.A56.A$77.2A10.2A56.2A$73.A4.A$49.3D19.
3A4.A.A19.2A$50.D19.A8.2A19.A54.2A$48.3D19.2A26.A.A55.A$98.2A56.A.2A$
148.2A4.3A2.A$148.2A3.A3.2A$153.4A$98.2A39.2A15.A$98.A.A37.A.A12.3A$100.
A37.A13.A$94.2A4.2A35.2A14.5A$94.A.A60.A$50.2A44.A58.A$50.2A44.2A57.2A
2$47.A$46.A.A16.C$45.A2.A16.2C$46.2A15.3C$63.2C4$62.2A8.2A$63.A4.A3.2A
$60.3A4.A.A$60.A5.A.A$66.A$65.2A8$107.A$107.3A$110.A$109.2A7$119.2A$112.
2A5.A.A$112.2A7.A$121.2A2$108.A$107.A.A.2A$107.A.A.A.A$104.2A.A.A.A.A
2.A$104.A2.A2.2A.4A$106.2A4.A$112.A.A$113.2A!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » December 24th, 2020, 11:44 pm

P8 honeyfarm hassler stator reductions. Got the number of stator cells all the way down to zero.

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x = 31, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
7bo2bo$11bo$12b2o$6bob2o6bo$6bo2bo3bo$5bo3bob3o$4bo11bo$7b3obo3bo$7bo
3bo2bo8b2ob2obo$4bo6b2obo7b2o2b2ob2o$7b2o21bo$9bo12b2o$10bo2bo8b2o5b2o
$29b2o$14b3o5bo$13bo3bo4b2ob2o2b2o$12bo5bo4bob2ob2o$12bo5bo$b2ob2obo4b
o5bo$2o2b2ob2o4bo3bo$8bo5b3o$2o$2o5b2o8bo2bo$7b2o12bo$o21b2o$2ob2o2b2o
7bob2o6bo$bob2ob2o8bo2bo3bo$15bo3bob3o$14bo11bo$17b3obo3bo$17bo3bo2bo$
14bo6b2obo$17b2o$19bo$20bo2bo!
EDIT: This fires gliders in a glide-symmetric-looking way, but it's not actually glide-symmetric.

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x = 21, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
7b3ob3o$6bo2bobo2bo$5bo3bobo3bo$5bo9bo$7bo5bo$4bobo7bobo$3b2obob2ob2ob
ob2o$2bobobo2bobo2bobobo$b2obo4bobo4bob2o$o3bob2obobob2obo3bo$4bob3o3b
3obo$2o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o$4b2o9b2o$4bo11bo$3bobo9bobo$2bo15bo$4bo11bo$b
2obo11bob2o$o3b2o9b2o3bo$bo2bo11bo2bo$6b2o5b2o$3b2obo7bob2o$6bob2ob2ob
o$6bob2ob2obo$5bo3bobo3bo$7bo5bo$5bo9bo$6bob2ob2obo$3b2obob2ob2obob2o$
3b2o2b3ob3o2b2o$4bob2o5b2obo$b2o2bo9bo2b2o$b2obob2o5b2obob2o$o2bobo9bo
bo2bo$bob3o9b3obo$4bo11bo$2b2o13b2o$6bo7bo$6b2o5b2o$8bo3bo2$4b2ob2o3b
2ob2o$2b2obo9bob2o$2bo4bo5bo4bo$4bo3bo3bo3bo$b2obob2o5b2obob2o$b4ob4ob
4ob4o$2o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o$4b2o9b2o$4bo11bo$4b13o$3b2o2b7o2b2o$9b3o$9b
3o$9b3o2$8b2ob2o$b3o14bo$bo2bo2bobobobo3b3o$bo15bob2o$bo3bo4bo3bo3b3o$
bo3bobo5b2o3b3o$bo6bo3bo5b3o$2bobo4b3o6b2o!
Edit 2: The symmetric toaster still lives!

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x = 29, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$13b3o2$14bo$13bobo$13bobo$14bo3$13b3o$13b3o$14bo$5b2o6bobo6b2o$
4b4obo2bobobo2bob4o$3bob6obobobob6obo$b3o8b2ob2o8b3o$o3bo3bo2bo5bo2bo
3bo3bo$2ob2o2b2obo7bob2o2b2ob2o$bobo4b2o9b2o4bobo$bo2b3ob3ob2ob2ob3ob
3o2bo$2b2o2bob2o2b2ob2o2b2obo2b2o$4b2o2bo2bo5bo2bo2b2o$4bo19bo$5bo5bo
5bo5bo$2b3o6b2o3b2o6b3o$2bo5bob3o3b3obo5bo$8bo3bo3bo3bo$7bob4o3b4obo$
8bo2bo5bo2bo$3bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$3b4obo2bo5bo2bob4o$8bo2bo5bo2bo$3b4o
bo11bob4o$3bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$7bobob2o3b2obobo$5bobobo9bobobo$4bobobo
2b2o3b2o2bobobo$4bobobob2o5b2obobobo$5bo2bo11bo2bo$8b2o3b3o3b2o$12b5o$
11bob3obo$9b3o5b3o$8bo3bo3bo3bo$8b5obob5o$14bo$10b3obob3o$9bo4bo4bo$8b
obo2b3o2bobo$8bobo7bobo$5b2obo3b5o3bob2o$5b2obobobobobobobob2o$9b2ob2o
b2ob2o$12bo3bo$9b3o5b3o$9bo2b5o2bo$11bo5bo$12b5o$14bo!
Edit 3: Not bad.

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x = 29, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$13b3o2$14bo$13bobo$13bobo$14bo2$14bo$14bo3$10b9o$8b2o2bobobo2b
2o$3b2o19b2o$b3ob3o6bo6b3ob3o$o6b3o2bobobo2b3o6bo$2ob5ob2obo3bob2ob5ob
2o$bobo2b2o13b2o2bobo$bo2bob2o2b2obobob2o2b2obo2bo$2b2o4b3o2bobo2b3o4b
2o$4b5o11b5o$4bobobo2b2o3b2o2bobobo$5bo17bo$2b3o5b3o3b3o5b3o$2bo5b2o9b
2o5bo$7bo3b3ob3o3bo$7bobob3ob3obobo$8bo3bo3bo3bo$3bo2bobobobo3bobobobo
2bo$3b4obo2bo5bo2bob4o$8bobo7bobo$3b4obobo7bobob4o$3bo2bobob2o5b2obobo
2bo$7bobobo5bobobo$5bobobob2o3b2obobobo$4bobobo3bo3bo3bobobo$4bobobobo
b2ob2obobobobo$5bo2bobob2ob2obobo2bo$8b2o9b2o2$11b2obob2o$9b3obobob3o$
8bo11bo$8b5obob5o$12b2ob2o$10b2obobob2o$9bo2bo3bo2bo$8bobo2b3o2bobo$8b
o2b2o3b2o2bo$5b2obo3b2ob2o3bob2o$5b2obobo7bobob2o$9b2obobobob2o$12bo3b
o$9b3o5b3o$9bo2b5o2bo$11bo5bo$12b5o$14bo!
Edit 4: Paperclip!

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x = 4, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o7$3o$o2bo$2b2o!
Edit 5: Transparent block:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.2A5$2D$2D4.3A$6.A2.A$8.2A!
Edit 6: If you remove the block after it forms, you get a catalytic blinker.
Edit 7: Flip-flop:

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x = 54, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo48bo$obo47bobo$bo49bo3$3o47b3o$o2bo46bo2bo$bobo47bobo$2bo49bo!
Edit 8: How far away are those beehives?

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x = 23, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2o19b2o$obo18bo$b2o16bobo$19b2o$7b3o$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo!
Butterfly and teardrop for reference:

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
22bo$21bobo$21bobo$22bo7$22bo$21bobo$21bobo$22bo2$22bo$21bobo$21bobo$
22bo3$b2o8b2o3b2o$o2bo6bo2bobo2bo$b2o8b2o3b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 25th, 2020, 6:05 pm

Here's a useless I→C.

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$11.A$9.A.A$5.2A2.2A$5.2A3$5.2C$6.2C$5.D.C$4.4DC$6.2D2$2.2A$.A.A
$.A$2A!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » December 25th, 2020, 9:13 pm

The P18 honey farm hassler works in two different positionings.

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x = 48, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
13bo29bo$11b3o27b3o$10bo29bo$b2o7b2o4b2o13b2o7b2o4b2o$2bo13bo15bo13bo$
2bobo3bo5bobo15bobo3bo5bobo$3b2o2bobo4b2o17b2o2bobo4b2o$6bo3bo25bo3bo$
6bo3bo25bo3bo$6bo3bo25bo3bo$7bobo27bobo$8bo29bo7$9bo30bo$8bobo28bobo$
7bo3bo26bo3bo$7bo3bo26bo3bo$7bo3bo26bo3bo$2b2o4bobo2b2o18b2o4bobo2b2o$
bobo5bo3bobo16bobo5bo3bobo$bo13bo16bo13bo$2o4b2o7b2o14b2o4b2o7b2o$7bo
30bo$4b3o28b3o$4bo30bo!
Edit: Wait that's a list tag not a code tag oops
Edit 2: Weird eater interaction:

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o4bo$8bo$4b3o2$4bobo$4bobo$3bob2o$2bo2bobo$2bo!
Edit 3: Actually put in the RLE this time.
Edit 4: Another weird interaction:

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x = 28, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$14bo$11bo$11bo3bo$11bo3b4o$13bo2$13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo
3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b
2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o
10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o
2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2bob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bo7b6o7bo2bo$
b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$5bob6o2b6obo$4bob2o4bo2bo4b2obo$4bo6bo4bo6bo$b2obo3b
5o2b5o3bob2o$b2obob2obo2bo2bo2bob2obob2o$5bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo$6bobo10b
obo$4bobobobo6bobobobo$4b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » December 26th, 2020, 5:09 pm

wwei23 wrote:
December 25th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Edit 4: Another weird interaction:

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x = 28, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$14bo$11bo$11bo3bo$11bo3b4o$13bo2$13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo
3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b
2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o
10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o
2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2bob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bo7b6o7bo2bo$
b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$5bob6o2b6obo$4bob2o4bo2bo4b2obo$4bo6bo4bo6bo$b2obo3b
5o2b5o3bob2o$b2obob2obo2bo2bo2bob2obob2o$5bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo$6bobo10b
obo$4bobobobo6bobobobo$4b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o!
That suggests another form of caterer on Merzenich's p31 with a smaller bounding box (24x28 vs 24x31) and same population (60):

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
7b2obo2bob2o$2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o$2o5bobo4bobo5b2o$8bo6bo6$8bo6bo$2o5bob
o4bobo5b2o$2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o$7b2obo2bob2o6$12bo$7b4o3bo$10bo3bo$14bo$
11bo$12b2o!
As well as another form of caterer on figure eight with a smaller bounding box (17x11 vs 20x10) and same population (24):

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x = 15, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
10b3o$14bo$4b2o3bo4bo$2bob2o7bo$bo8b2o$4bo5bo$2obo6bo$2o8bo!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Ian07 » December 26th, 2020, 8:11 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 7:01 pm
I made sure that my syntheses were either better than the synthesis that Catagolue showed or for an object that Catagolue did not yet have a synthesis for, and I don't recall caching being a problem for me before.
What are you trying to submit, exactly? If it's the p2700 crystallization-and-decay oscillator, that's one of the ones where Catagolue just doesn't parse it properly because it's too large. I've submitted an issue report to Shinjuku, which appears to currently be the only way to update certain large-object syntheses.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 26th, 2020, 8:19 pm

Ian07 wrote:
December 26th, 2020, 8:11 pm
What are you trying to submit, exactly? If it's the p2700 crystallization-and-decay oscillator, that's one of the ones where Catagolue just doesn't parse it properly because it's too large. I've submitted an issue report to Shinjuku, which appears to currently be the only way to update certain large-object syntheses.
That's only one example. Another examples include that I managed to reduce the glider cost for the period-184 glider gun by synthesizing one of the fishhooks with the two-glider synthesis and a kickback reaction instead of the four-glider pond-based mechanism, and I submitted three-glider syntheses for the ship and tub that had two stages instead of one.
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by breaden » December 26th, 2020, 11:07 pm

This 9 cell Methuselah (lets call it "claw") takes exactly 1999 generations till boredom.

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
3o$3bo$bo2bo$2b3o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 26th, 2020, 11:18 pm

breaden wrote:
December 26th, 2020, 11:07 pm
This 9 cell Methuselah (lets call it "claw") takes exactly 1999 generations till boredom.

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
3o$3bo$bo2bo$2b3o!
Here's a nine-cell parent, making the lifetime exactly two thousand.

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2bobo$o$bobo$4b2o$3b2o!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by breaden » December 26th, 2020, 11:37 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 26th, 2020, 11:18 pm
Here's a nine-cell parent, making the lifetime exactly two thousand.

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2bobo$o$bobo$4b2o$3b2o!
densed it a little bit:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o$bob2o$3b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » December 27th, 2020, 12:03 am

breaden wrote:
December 26th, 2020, 11:37 pm
densed it a little bit:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o$bob2o$3b2o!
I found an eight-cell parent.

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo$b2o$3bo$o2b2o!


Edit: Here are two more.

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x = 21, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
o14b2o$bo$2b2o13b2o$4bo11bo2bo$bo2b2o13b2o!


Another edit: Here are two more eight-cell parents.

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x = 20, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
o14bo$o14bo$2o13b2o$2bo14bobo$bob2o11bobo!
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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