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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bubblegum » October 25th, 2020, 5:42 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 5:34 pm
wwei23 wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 3:59 pm
Pi eater

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
6.A.A$6.A.A$6.3A$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A4.A.A$6.2A.A$9.A$9.2A!
The hook with tail isn't necessary for an alternative parent.

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.A$4.AD.DA$5.CAC$5.DAD$2.2A2.D$.A.A$.A$2A!
That doesn't form the pi descendant at the same location though.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 25th, 2020, 6:40 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 5:42 pm
That doesn't form the pi descendant at the same location though.
Whoops. I must have missed that.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » October 26th, 2020, 11:34 pm

An unusual Eater 2 recovery.

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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bob2o$13bo$12bobo$11bo2bo$11bobo$11b
2o5$11b2o$11b2o!
EDIT: I tried to stabilize one of MathAndCode's conduits. The buckaroo doesn't fit here, but if it did...

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x = 25, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
6.2D$6.2D8$7.D$6.3D$5.5D$4.2D3.2D2.D$12.3D$12.D3A$13.ABA$6.3A3.A2BA$6.
3A2.A3BAB2A$10.3A2BAB2A$4.2A4.A5BAB$5.A3.4BABDA$2.3A4.3BAB2DA6.2A$2.A
6.3BC2DBA6.2A$10.2BC2B$11.A3B$13.B4$14.2A$14.2A!


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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 11:17 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 11:34 pm
An unusual Eater 2 recovery.

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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bob2o$13bo$12bobo$11bo2bo$11bobo$11b
2o5$11b2o$11b2o!
What is that intermediate between the two times that the eater 2 functions? Its development looks familiar, but I don't know its name.
wwei23 wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 11:34 pm

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x = 25, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
6.2D$6.2D8$7.D$6.3D$5.5D$4.2D3.2D2.D$12.3D$12.D3A$13.ABA$6.3A3.A2BA$6.
3A2.A3BAB2A$10.3A2BAB2A$4.2A4.A5BAB$5.A3.4BABDA$2.3A4.3BAB2DA6.2A$2.A
6.3BC2DBA6.2A$10.2BC2B$11.A3B$13.B4$14.2A$14.2A!

That's an interesting find; I wouldn't have thought of it. I suspect that there is probably a catalyst that can replace the block because the interaction is glancing, quick, and relatively simple.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by bubblegum » October 27th, 2020, 12:11 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 11:17 am
wwei23 wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 11:34 pm

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x = 25, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
6.2D$6.2D8$7.D$6.3D$5.5D$4.2D3.2D2.D$12.3D$12.D3A$13.ABA$6.3A3.A2BA$6.
3A2.A3BAB2A$10.3A2BAB2A$4.2A4.A5BAB$5.A3.4BABDA$2.3A4.3BAB2DA6.2A$2.A
6.3BC2DBA6.2A$10.2BC2B$11.A3B$13.B4$14.2A$14.2A!

That's an interesting find; I wouldn't have thought of it. I suspect that there is probably a catalyst that can replace the block because the interaction is glancing, quick, and relatively simple.
Am I the only one who can not understand a cell or word of this?
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » October 27th, 2020, 12:21 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 12:11 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 11:17 am
wwei23 wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 11:34 pm

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x = 25, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
6.2D$6.2D8$7.D$6.3D$5.5D$4.2D3.2D2.D$12.3D$12.D3A$13.ABA$6.3A3.A2BA$6.
3A2.A3BAB2A$10.3A2BAB2A$4.2A4.A5BAB$5.A3.4BABDA$2.3A4.3BAB2DA6.2A$2.A
6.3BC2DBA6.2A$10.2BC2B$11.A3B$13.B4$14.2A$14.2A!

That's an interesting find; I wouldn't have thought of it. I suspect that there is probably a catalyst that can replace the block because the interaction is glancing, quick, and relatively simple.
Am I the only one who can not understand a cell or word of this?
I can't either. The blocks seem to be perfectly fine catalysts. The eater is the one that gets destroyed. And why are there red cells to be filled when they are never filled?
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 12:58 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 12:21 pm
I can't either. The blocks seem to be perfectly fine catalysts. The eater is the one that gets destroyed. And why are there red cells to be filled when they are never filled?
Whoops. I should have clarified that I was referring to a block used in what I originally found.

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x = 18, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.D$5.3D$5.D2$2E$2E3$8.C$7.2C7.2A$5.3C8.2A$5.C6$7.2A$7.2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Kazyan » October 27th, 2020, 2:01 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 12:58 pm
Whoops. I should have clarified that I was referring to a block used in what I originally found.

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x = 18, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.D$5.3D$5.D2$2E$2E3$8.C$7.2C7.2A$5.3C8.2A$5.C6$7.2A$7.2A!
I put this reaction through Bellman with the indeterminate cells being just outside of the reaction envelope...

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#S max-active 9
#S repair-interval 40
#S stable-interval 4
#S max-live 500
#S first-encounter 15
#S last-encounter 19
#P 0 0
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...and the program essentially told me to go sit in the corner and think about what I've done. I could bump the search depth up to max-active 12, but I am almost certain that it would be a waste days of computing power.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 3:38 pm

Kazyan wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 2:01 pm
I put this reaction through Bellman with the indeterminate cells being just outside of the reaction envelope...



...and the program essentially told me to go sit in the corner and think about what I've done. I could bump the search depth up to max-active 12, but I am almost certain that it would be a waste days of computing power.
How in the future can I have a better idea of how promising partial conduits are? I thought that that partial was very promising, but apparently, I cannot judge partials well yet.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » October 27th, 2020, 7:34 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 3:38 pm
I thought that that partial was very promising, but apparently, I cannot judge partials well yet.
As far as I know, there's no real way to tell. You just have to try and complete it, and find out for yourself.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 8:27 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 7:34 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 3:38 pm
I thought that that partial was very promising, but apparently, I cannot judge partials well yet.
As far as I know, there's no real way to tell. You just have to try and complete it, and find out for yourself.
I guess that you have a point, although there are ways to gauge how promising it is.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Kazyan » October 27th, 2020, 9:03 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 3:38 pm
How in the future can I have a better idea of how promising partial conduits are? I thought that that partial was very promising, but apparently, I cannot judge partials well yet.
If there had been plenty of room around the sacrificial block, there would have been much more of a chance. Ultimately, though, an unfortunate truth about catalysis is that we don't have the technology to design bespoke ones--and I'm skeptical that they can easily exist within the confines of a this chaotic cellular automaton. Bellman can't search deep enough to make sure.

I've stated a criterion for bait restoration before, and I stand by it: bait that is consumed slightly messily in the form of a small area of activity around it, with plenty of space outside of the other parts of the reaction envelope. Then you can try to finesse it a bit, but only a bit.

The best partials don't result in a specific output at all, but instead apply an unusual arrangement of catalysts to move the reaction somewhere well-separated from them. Then you apply even more catalysts. You could consider starting from an intermediate of, for example, HRx334R:

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x = 43, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
.D3.D.4D9.3D3.3D5.D2.4D$.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D3.2D2.D3.D$.D3.D.D3.D.D
3.D5.D5.D2.D.D2.D3.D$.5D.4D3.D.D4.2D4.2D2.D2.D2.4D$.D3.D.D2.D4.D7.D5.
D.5D.D2.D$.D3.D.D3.D2.D.D2.D3.D.D3.D4.D2.D3.D$.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D
5.D2.D3.D10$19.A.2A.2A$17.3A.A3.A$16.A5.2A$B16.A.2A.A.4A$2B14.2A.2A.A
.A2.A$3B4.2A12.2BA3B$4B4.A12.B.3B$.4B3.A.AB7.6B$2.4B3.2AB.3B3.7B$3.4B
4.16B15.B$4.4B3.17B13.2B$5.4B3.16B12.3B$6.4B.17B11.4B$7.21B10.4B$7.
22B8.4B$7.2BC20B6.4B$6.3BCBC4B.12B6.4B$7.2B3C4B2.11B5.4B$6.5BC4B2.11B
4.4B$5.12B2.11B2.4B$4.4B6.21B$4.3B8.19B$2.4B10.17B$2.2A13.17B$3.A13.
17B$3A14.16B2A$A17.15B2A$16.18B$14.A.2A14B$12.3AB2AB2.11B9.2A$11.A4.B
5.10B9.A$12.3A.2A5.9B3.B2.BA.A$14.A.A7.13B.B2A$14.A.A6.16B$15.A7.16B$
21.18B$20.18B$19.19B2.2A$19.17B4.A$17.2AB.15B.BA.A$16.A.AB2.B.12B.B2A
$16.A8.14B$15.2A8.13B$26.BD10B$25.3D10B$25.BD12B$24.15B$25.13B$25.12B
$27.8B$28.6B$30.2B!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 9:11 pm

Kazyan wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 9:03 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 3:38 pm
How in the future can I have a better idea of how promising partial conduits are? I thought that that partial was very promising, but apparently, I cannot judge partials well yet.
If there had been plenty of room around the sacrificial block, there would have been much more of a chance. Ultimately, though, an unfortunate truth about catalysis is that we don't have the technology to design bespoke ones--and I'm skeptical that they can easily exist within the confines of a this chaotic cellular automaton. Bellman can't search deep enough to make sure.

I've stated a criterion for bait restoration before, and I stand by it: bait that is consumed slightly messily in the form of a small area of activity around it, with plenty of space outside of the other parts of the reaction envelope. Then you can try to finesse it a bit, but only a bit.
I just figured that since the interaction was brief, the block was just outside the edge of the reaction envelope (besides, of course, the block being destroyed, but the reaction did not later go back over that area), and the block did not seem to interact in a highly specific way, there would probably be a replacement catalyst.

By the way, which active region do you recommend would be the most useful for me to search for catalysts for? If I remember correctly, you recommended that I search for R−B converters because many converters made an R-pentomino facing the wrong way, but I've found several convertors for that, so can you think of anything else?



Edit: Actually, I misremembered what happened. I'll probably look for convertors accepting the seven-cell diehard.



Another edit: Here's a way to convert it to a blockade that's probably useless due to clearance.

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x = 12, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
10bo$4b2o$5bo3b3o10$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Kazyan » October 27th, 2020, 10:13 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 9:11 pm
I just figured that since the interaction was brief, the block was just outside the edge of the reaction envelope (besides, of course, the block being destroyed, but the reaction did not later go back over that area), and the block did not seem to interact in a highly specific way, there would probably be a replacement catalyst.

By the way, which active region do you recommend would be the most useful for me to search for catalysts for? If I remember correctly, you recommended that I search for R−B converters because many converters made an R-pentomino facing the wrong way, but I've found several convertors for that, so can you think of anything else?
The block does have those properties you describe. I think it comes down tot he shape of the possible catalyst that could replace the block, given the reaction envelope--if you look at the Bellman input file, you'll see that the business end of the block doesn't have much question-mark territory around it.

As for active regions to search catalysts for, perhaps one half of a LoM explosion. It tends to split apart around generation 20.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 27th, 2020, 10:24 pm

Kazyan wrote:
October 27th, 2020, 10:13 pm
As for active regions to search catalysts for, perhaps one half of a LoM explosion. It tends to split apart around generation 20.
Thank you for the recommendation. I'll start looking now.



Edit: Here's an R.

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
A7B$A7B$.A2BA3B$.AB2A2BA$.2A2BDCA$2.ABABCD$3.3AD$3.3A3$4.2A$4.2A!


Another edit: Deleting one half early enough will cause the other half to become a dove, but I'm not sure how to do that.



Yet another edit: Does anyone know how to get rid of the block?

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = DoubleB3S23
11.2C$12.2C$13.2C7$2.2A$3.A$3A3.2C$A6.C$4.3C$4.C!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 28th, 2020, 4:37 am

Is this F258 known (with a non-silent k):

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x = 169, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
35b2o107b2o$13bo21bobo84bo21bobo$13b3o21bo84b3o21bo$16bo20b2o86bo20b2o
$15b2o11b2o94b2o11b2o$28bobo106bobo$29bo108bo3$40b2o15bo91b2o15bo$40b
2o15bo91b2o15bo$57b3o106b3o$59bo108bo5$159b2o$160bo$157b3o$157bo$34bo$
34b3o$37bo$36b2o$2o107b2o$bo108bo$bobo106bobo$2b2o16b2o89b2o16b2o$20b
2o107b2o2$46b2o$39b2o5bobo106b2o$20b2o17b2o7bo80b2o24bo$20b2o26b2o79b
2o26bo$2bo108bo25b2o14b5o$2bobo30bo75bobo24bo13bo$2b3o29bobob2o71b3o
24bobo12b3o$4bo29bobobobo72bo25b2o15bo$31b2obobobobo2bo109b4o$20bo10bo
2bo2b2ob4o85bo18b2o3bo3b2o$19bobo11b2o4bo88bobo17b2o4b3o2bo$20bo18bobo
87bo4bo21bob2o$40b2o90b3o21bo$131bo23b2o$131b2o$10b2o107b2o$9bobo106bo
bo26b2o$9bo108bo28bo$8b2o107b2o29b3o$150bo2$121b2o$120bobo5b2o$120bo7b
2o$119b2o2$133bo$129b2obobo$128bobobobo$125bo2bobobobob2o$125b4ob2o2bo
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 28th, 2020, 11:34 am

A fishhook can eat a shillelagh in the place that one would likely least expect it.

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o2$4b2o$4bo2b2o$5b2obo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by googoIpIex » October 28th, 2020, 1:46 pm

if anyone finds a climber that burns pulsars, we're set!

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x = 14, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$7bo2bo$10bo$3o3bo3bo$2bo3bo3bo$bo8bo$7bobo8$11b3o$10bo2bo$13bo$
13bo$10bobo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 28th, 2020, 2:01 pm

This is frustratingly close but does not appear to be completabe.

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bobo$2b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$2b2o7bo$bobo$bo$2o!
#C [[ RLE dot o! ]]
#C [[ PASTET 18 ]]
#C [[ PASTE dot 9 2 ]]
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by PC101 » October 28th, 2020, 2:22 pm

googoIpIex wrote:
October 28th, 2020, 1:46 pm
if anyone finds a climber that burns pulsars, we're set!

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x = 14, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$7bo2bo$10bo$3o3bo3bo$2bo3bo3bo$bo8bo$7bobo8$11b3o$10bo2bo$13bo$
13bo$10bobo!
An extremely dirty climber:

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x = 93, y = 652, rule = B3/S23
8bo5bo$8bo5bo$8b2o3b2o2$4b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$6bobobobobobo$8b2o3b2o2$8b2o3b
2o$6bobobobobobo$4b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$8b2o3b2o$8bo5bo$8bo5bo13$10b3o3b3o2$
8bo4bobo4bo$8bo4bobo4bo$8bo4bobo4bo$10b3o3b3o2$10b3o3b3o$8bo4bobo4bo$
8bo4bobo4bo$8bo4bobo4bo2$10b3o3b3o14$13b2o5b2o$14b2o3b2o$11bo2bobobobo
2bo$11b3ob2ob2ob3o$12bobobobobobo$13b3o3b3o2$13b3o3b3o$12bobobobobobo$
11b3ob2ob2ob3o$11bo2bobobobo2bo$14b2o3b2o$13b2o5b2o13$17bo5bo$17bo5bo$
17b2o3b2o2$13b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$15bobobobobobo$17b2o3b2o2$17b2o3b2o$15bobo
bobobobo$13b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$17b2o3b2o$17bo5bo$17bo5bo13$19b3o3b3o2$17bo
4bobo4bo$17bo4bobo4bo$17bo4bobo4bo$19b3o3b3o2$19b3o3b3o$17bo4bobo4bo$
17bo4bobo4bo$17bo4bobo4bo2$19b3o3b3o14$22b2o5b2o$23b2o3b2o$20bo2bobobo
bo2bo$20b3ob2ob2ob3o$21bobobobobobo$22b3o3b3o2$22b3o3b3o$21bobobobobob
o$20b3ob2ob2ob3o$20bo2bobobobo2bo$23b2o3b2o$22b2o5b2o13$26bo5bo$26bo5b
o$26b2o3b2o2$22b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$24bobobobobobo$26b2o3b2o2$26b2o3b2o$24bo
bobobobobo$22b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$26b2o3b2o$26bo5bo$26bo5bo13$28b3o3b3o2$
26bo4bobo4bo$26bo4bobo4bo$26bo4bobo4bo$28b3o3b3o2$28b3o3b3o$26bo4bobo
4bo$26bo4bobo4bo$26bo4bobo4bo2$28b3o3b3o14$31b2o5b2o$32b2o3b2o$29bo2bo
bobobo2bo$29b3ob2ob2ob3o$30bobobobobobo$31b3o3b3o2$31b3o3b3o$30bobobob
obobo$29b3ob2ob2ob3o$29bo2bobobobo2bo$32b2o3b2o$31b2o5b2o13$35bo5bo$
35bo5bo$35b2o3b2o2$31b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$33bobobobobobo$35b2o3b2o2$35b2o3b
2o$33bobobobobobo$31b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$35b2o3b2o$35bo5bo$35bo5bo13$37b3o
3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o$35bo
4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o14$40b2o5b2o$41b2o3b2o$
38bo2bobobobo2bo$38b3ob2ob2ob3o$39bobobobobobo$40b3o3b3o2$40b3o3b3o$
39bobobobobobo$38b3ob2ob2ob3o$38bo2bobobobo2bo$41b2o3b2o$40b2o5b2o13$
44bo5bo$44bo5bo$44b2o3b2o2$40b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$42bobobobobobo$44b2o3b2o2$
44b2o3b2o$42bobobobobobo$40b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$44b2o3b2o$44bo5bo$44bo5bo
13$46b3o3b3o2$44bo4bobo4bo$44bo4bobo4bo$44bo4bobo4bo$46b3o3b3o2$46b3o
3b3o$44bo4bobo4bo$44bo4bobo4bo$44bo4bobo4bo2$46b3o3b3o14$49b2o5b2o$50b
2o3b2o$47bo2bobobobo2bo$47b3ob2ob2ob3o$48bobobobobobo$49b3o3b3o2$49b3o
3b3o$48bobobobobobo$47b3ob2ob2ob3o$47bo2bobobobo2bo$50b2o3b2o$49b2o5b
2o13$53bo5bo$53bo5bo$53b2o3b2o2$49b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$51bobobobobobo$53b2o
3b2o2$53b2o3b2o$51bobobobobobo$49b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$53b2o3b2o$53bo5bo$53b
o5bo13$55b3o3b3o2$53bo4bobo4bo$53bo4bobo4bo$53bo4bobo4bo$55b3o3b3o2$
55b3o3b3o$53bo4bobo4bo$53bo4bobo4bo$53bo4bobo4bo2$55b3o3b3o14$58b2o5b
2o$59b2o3b2o$56bo2bobobobo2bo$56b3ob2ob2ob3o$57bobobobobobo$58b3o3b3o
2$58b3o3b3o$57bobobobobobo$56b3ob2ob2ob3o$56bo2bobobobo2bo$59b2o3b2o$
58b2o5b2o13$62bo5bo$62bo5bo$62b2o3b2o2$58b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$60bobobobobobo
$62b2o3b2o2$62b2o3b2o$60bobobobobobo$58b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$62b2o3b2o$62bo
5bo$62bo5bo13$64b3o3b3o2$62bo4bobo4bo$62bo4bobo4bo$62bo4bobo4bo$64b3o
3b3o2$64b3o3b3o$62bo4bobo4bo$62bo4bobo4bo$62bo4bobo4bo2$64b3o3b3o14$
67b2o5b2o$68b2o3b2o$65bo2bobobobo2bo$65b3ob2ob2ob3o$66bobobobobobo$67b
3o3b3o2$67b3o3b3o$66bobobobobobo$65b3ob2ob2ob3o$65bo2bobobobo2bo$68b2o
3b2o$67b2o5b2o13$71bo5bo$71bo5bo$71b2o3b2o2$67b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$69bobobob
obobo$71b2o3b2o2$71b2o3b2o$69bobobobobobo$67b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$71b2o3b2o$
71bo5bo$71bo5bo13$73b3o3b3o2$71bo4bobo4bo$71bo4bobo4bo$71bo4bobo4bo$
73b3o3b3o2$73b3o3b3o$71bo4bobo4bo$71bo4bobo4bo$71bo4bobo4bo2$73b3o3b3o
14$76b2o5b2o$77b2o3b2o$74bo2bobobobo2bo$74b3ob2ob2ob3o$75bobobobobobo$
76b3o3b3o2$76b3o3b3o$75bobobobobobo$74b3ob2ob2ob3o$74bo2bobobobo2bo$
77b2o3b2o$76b2o5b2o13$80bo5bo$80bo5bo$80b2o3b2o2$76b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$78bo
bobobobobo$80b2o3b2o2$80b2o3b2o$78bobobobobobo$76b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$80b2o
3b2o$80bo5bo$80bo5bo7$82b3o$83bo$81b3o!
Some experimenting:

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x = 607, y = 288, rule = B3/S23
3o$2bo$bo33$67b3o$69bo$68bo33$134b3o$136bo$135bo33$201b3o$203bo$202bo
30$276b3o82b3o$275bo2bo81bo2bo$278bo84bo$268b3o3bo3bo74b3o3bo3bo$270bo
3bo3bo76bo3bo3bo$269bo8bo75bo8bo237b3o$275bobo82bobo237bo2bo$603bo$
593b3o3bo3bo$595bo3bo3bo$594bo8bo$600bobo3$279b3o82b3o9bo$278bo2bo81bo
2bo8b3o$281bo84bo7b2obo$281bo84bo7b3o$278bobo82bobo8b3o$374b3o227b3o$
375b2o226bo2bo$274b3o82b3o244bo$274bo2bo81bo2bo243bo$274bo84bo243bobo$
274bo3bo80bo3bo$274bo84bo$275bobo82bobo2$379bo$378b3o8b3o$377b2obo8bo
2bo$275b3o99b3o9bo$274bo2bo100b2o9bo3bo$277bo111bo3bo$273bo3bo111bo$
273bo3bo96bo15bobo$277bo95b3o$274bobo96bob2o$374b3o$374b3o$374b2o3$
392b3o9bo$392bo2bo7b3o$278b3o111bo10bob2o$277bo2bo111bo11b3o$280bo112b
obo8b3o$280bo123b3o$277bobo124b2o$387b3o$386bo2bo$273b3o113bo$273bo2bo
108bo3bo$273bo115bo$273bo3bo108bobo$273bo$274bobo130bo$406b3o8b3o$406b
ob2o6bo2bo$407b3o9bo$407b2o6bo3bo$274b3o138bo3bo$273bo2bo142bo$276bo
125bo13bobo$272bo3bo124b3o$272bo3bo123b2obo$276bo123b3o$273bobo124b3o$
401b2o3$420b3o$419bo2bo$422bo$422bo$277b3o139bobo$276bo2bo$279bo$279bo
135b3o$276bobo136bo2bo$415bo$415bo3bo$272b3o140bo$272bo2bo140bobo$272b
o$272bo3bo$272bo$273bobo5$273b3o$272bo2bo$275bo$271bo3bo$271bo3bo$275b
o$272bobo8$276b3o$275bo2bo$278bo$278bo$275bobo3$271b3o$271bo2bo$271bo$
271bo3bo$271bo$272bobo5$272b3o$271bo2bo$274bo$270bo3bo$270bo3bo$274bo$
271bobo8$275b3o$274bo2bo$277bo$277bo$274bobo3$270b3o$270bo2bo$270bo$
270bo3bo$270bo$271bobo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by googoIpIex » October 28th, 2020, 2:32 pm

or a paperclip burning climber:

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x = 26, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
9$8b2o4b3o$7bobo4bo2bo$9bo4bo$14bo3bo$14bo3bo$14bo$15bobo5$16bo$15b3o$
14b2obo$14b3o$15b2o7$18b3o$18bo2bo$18bo$18bo$19bobo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei23 » October 28th, 2020, 2:44 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 28th, 2020, 2:01 pm
This is frustratingly close but does not appear to be completabe.
A figure 8 will do. Now to remove the block somehow.

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x = 14, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o2$o3bo$o4bo$2bobobo$3bobobo$4bo4bo$5bo3bo2$6b2o4$12b2o$11b2o$3b2o
7bo$2bobo$2bo$b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 28th, 2020, 2:58 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 28th, 2020, 2:44 pm
A figure 8 will do. Now to remove the block somehow.

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x = 14, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o2$o3bo$o4bo$2bobobo$3bobobo$4bo4bo$5bo3bo2$6b2o4$12b2o$11b2o$3b2o
7bo$2bobo$2bo$b2o!
Nice find. I wouldn't have thought of that.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by 83bismuth38 » October 28th, 2020, 8:22 pm

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o2$b4ob2o$o3bob2o$bo2bo$b2obo$3bob2o$bobo2bo$bo2bo$4o!
a bit of p3 that i can't seem to complete without making a huge mess.
also,

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
3.BA$3.2AB$2.3B$.A.AB.C$BABA.C.C$.A.A.C2DC$2.BAB.2D$.2B3.CDC$.ABA3.C$
2.A!
I noticed that this highlighted bit of my p3 is a unique stabilization of that p3 piece. i couldn't find any other oscillator the stabilizes it exactly like this.
Lightning Fast Edit:
the people on the conwaylife discord used some completely normal magic on that first one and yeah

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3bo$b3o$o3b2o$bo2bobo$b2obobo$3bobo$bobo$bo2bo$4obo$5bo$5bob2o$4b2ob2o
!
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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!
No football of any dui mauris said that.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 28th, 2020, 8:35 pm

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x = 27, y = 16, rule = B3S23
26bo$25b2o$24b2o$25b2o9$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!
Look at the number of on cells in a row in generations 83 and 84.
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