Let's create a good language!

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Wait, did we decide on alphabet yet? I think we can choose wisely here without the BokaBB hammer.

Probably simple Latin, maybe a superset of it, depending on what sounds we need. Do you want another alphabet?

[Hunting]

Wait, did we decide on alphabet yet? I think we can choose wisely here without the BokaBB hammer.

Probably simple Latin, maybe a superset of it, depending on what sounds we need. Do you want another alphabet?

Personally, neutral but slightly towards simple Latin. What do you think? Can you translate the Komal - dag belsan also?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Personally, neutral but slightly towards simple Latin. What do you think?

I can easily switch keyboards to type ç, ğ, ı, ö, ü, and ş, so I don't really have a problem with any of those characters, but others might. If we consider a superset, we should first ask others.

Can you translate the Komal - dag belsan also?

I could try, but It might take me a while.

[wwei23]

Sorry if I'm annoying anyone, but I'm just doing what I said I'd do.

Please call others to back here and reconcile with me.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

I'll see what I can do.

[fluffykitty]

We would need some way of representing /ɟʝɣ/.

I mean, how would adding /b/ cause this? Would we need to have a voiced counterpart for all consonants?

Having consonants that are not part of regular series would make sandhi stuff more awkward.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

I have a keyboard that can type hatted letters, like ĉ, ĝ, ĵ, and ŝ.

[fluffykitty]

I can do ŵêŷûîôâŝĝĥĵẑĉn̂m̂ and a bunch of other stuff. I don't think we should use accented characters though.

[Hunting]

I don't think we should use accented characters though.

So do we settle on simple Latin?

[Moosey]

oh no subjective title

I don't think we should use accented characters though.

So do we settle on simple Latin?

+1

anyway hast this fonotatix? (also without a google sheet to dump all this in this is not gonna work out )

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Yep, simple latin is fine.

Phonotactics:
consonant clusters no longer than three?
/h/ only at onset?

[Moosey]

Yep, simple latin is fine.

Phonotactics:
consonant clusters no longer than three?
/h/ only at onset?

how about phonology? That sounds good otherwise

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

how about phonology? That sounds good otherwise

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[Moosey]

not bad

[fluffykitty]

I don't think we should use accented characters though.

So do we settle on simple Latin?

If by that you mean /ptck/ <ptck> /fsçx/ <fshx> /mnlwj/ <mnlwj> /ŋ/ <ng> (when not followed by /k/) <n> (otherwise) /aeiou/ <aeiou> then probably

anyway hast this fonotatix? (also without a google sheet to dump all this in this is not gonna work out )

*hath. Also, I propose any single consonant or /pf/ /ts/ /cç/ /kx/ in onsets and codas, (stop or fricative)+/l/ or (fricative or nasal)+/w/ in onsets only, and nasal+homorganic stop in codas only. A syllable ending with an affricate cannot be followed by a stop or fricative, and nasals followed by stops assimilate. [ɲ] exists as a phone, but only when followed by /c/ and in that case it doesn't contrast with other nasals.

[Hunting]

Yep, simple latin is fine.

Phonotactics:
consonant clusters no longer than three?
/h/ only at onset?

I'd like to forbid all consonant clusters at once. So we only have CVCVCVCVCVCVC stuff.

[fluffykitty]

Phonotactics:
consonant clusters no longer than three?
/h/ only at onset?

I didn't think we had an /h/ in this language. <h> is /ç/ in my proposal.

I'd like to forbid all consonant clusters at once. So we only have CVCVCVCVCVCVC stuff.

That doesn't sound very interesting to me.

[Moosey]

Phonotactics:
consonant clusters no longer than three?
/h/ only at onset?

I didn't think we had an /h/ in this language. <h> is /ç/ in my proposal.

I'd like to forbid all consonant clusters at once. So we only have CVCVCVCVCVCVC stuff.

That doesn't sound very interesting to me.

agree
forbidding consonant clusters makes langs super dull imo

[fluffykitty]

I think a maximal cluster in my proposal would be /amptle/. Also, I would add coda nasal+homorganic fricative (bringing the max cluster to /antsŋwi/ and friends), and remove coda /wj/ since we already have diphthongs for those.

[Hunting]

I think a maximal cluster in my proposal would be /amptle/. Also, I would add coda nasal+homorganic fricative (bringing the max cluster to /antsŋwi/ and friends), and remove coda /wj/ since we already have diphthongs for those.

So what are the concats allowed till now?

[fluffykitty]

What do you mean by "concat"? If you mean "consonant cluster", then any valid coda cluster followed by any valid onset cluster, except /pf/ and friends followed by a stop or a nasal followed by a non-matching stop. Here's a complete list, if you're curious:

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p
t
c
k
f
s
ç
x
m
n
ŋ
w
l
j
pf
ts
cç
kx
pl
tl
cl
kl
fl
sl
çl
xl
fw
sw
çw
xw
mw
nw
ŋw
pp
pt
pc
pk
pf
ps
pç
px
pm
pn
pŋ
pw
pl
pj
ppf
pts
pcç
pkx
ppl
ptl
pcl
pkl
pfl
psl
pçl
pxl
pfw
psw
pçw
pxw
pmw
pnw
pŋw
tp
tt
tc
tk
tf
ts
tç
tx
tm
tn
tŋ
tw
tl
tj
tpf
tts
tcç
tkx
tpl
ttl
tcl
tkl
tfl
tsl
tçl
txl
tfw
tsw
tçw
txw
tmw
tnw
tŋw
cp
ct
cc
ck
cf
cs
cç
cx
cm
cn
cŋ
cw
cl
cj
cpf
cts
ccç
ckx
cpl
ctl
ccl
ckl
cfl
csl
cçl
cxl
cfw
csw
cçw
cxw
cmw
cnw
cŋw
kp
kt
kc
kk
kf
ks
kç
kx
km
kn
kŋ
kw
kl
kj
kpf
kts
kcç
kkx
kpl
ktl
kcl
kkl
kfl
ksl
kçl
kxl
kfw
ksw
kçw
kxw
kmw
knw
kŋw
fp
ft
fc
fk
ff
fs
fç
fx
fm
fn
fŋ
fw
fl
fj
fpf
fts
fcç
fkx
fpl
ftl
fcl
fkl
ffl
fsl
fçl
fxl
ffw
fsw
fçw
fxw
fmw
fnw
fŋw
sp
st
sc
sk
sf
ss
sç
sx
sm
sn
sŋ
sw
sl
sj
spf
sts
scç
skx
spl
stl
scl
skl
sfl
ssl
sçl
sxl
sfw
ssw
sçw
sxw
smw
snw
sŋw
çp
çt
çc
çk
çf
çs
çç
çx
çm
çn
çŋ
çw
çl
çj
çpf
çts
çcç
çkx
çpl
çtl
çcl
çkl
çfl
çsl
ççl
çxl
çfw
çsw
ççw
çxw
çmw
çnw
çŋw
xp
xt
xc
xk
xf
xs
xç
xx
xm
xn
xŋ
xw
xl
xj
xpf
xts
xcç
xkx
xpl
xtl
xcl
xkl
xfl
xsl
xçl
xxl
xfw
xsw
xçw
xxw
xmw
xnw
xŋw
mp
mf
ms
mç
mx
mm
mn
mŋ
mw
ml
mj
mpf
mpl
mfl
msl
mçl
mxl
mfw
msw
mçw
mxw
mmw
mnw
mŋw
nt
nf
ns
nç
nx
nm
nn
nŋ
nw
nl
nj
nts
ntl
nfl
nsl
nçl
nxl
nfw
nsw
nçw
nxw
nmw
nnw
nŋw
ŋk
ŋf
ŋs
ŋç
ŋx
ŋm
ŋn
ŋŋ
ŋw
ŋl
ŋj
ŋkx
ŋkl
ŋfl
ŋsl
ŋçl
ŋxl
ŋfw
ŋsw
ŋçw
ŋxw
ŋmw
ŋnw
ŋŋw
lp
lt
lc
lk
lf
ls
lç
lx
lm
ln
lŋ
lw
ll
lj
lpf
lts
lcç
lkx
lpl
ltl
lcl
lkl
lfl
lsl
lçl
lxl
lfw
lsw
lçw
lxw
lmw
lnw
lŋw
pff
pfs
pfç
pfx
pfm
pfn
pfŋ
pfw
pfl
pfj
pffl
pfsl
pfçl
pfxl
pffw
pfsw
pfçw
pfxw
pfmw
pfnw
pfŋw
tsf
tss
tsç
tsx
tsm
tsn
tsŋ
tsw
tsl
tsj
tsfl
tssl
tsçl
tsxl
tsfw
tssw
tsçw
tsxw
tsmw
tsnw
tsŋw
cçf
cçs
cçç
cçx
cçm
cçn
cçŋ
cçw
cçl
cçj
cçfl
cçsl
cççl
cçxl
cçfw
cçsw
cççw
cçxw
cçmw
cçnw
cçŋw
kxf
kxs
kxç
kxx
kxm
kxn
kxŋ
kxw
kxl
kxj
kxfl
kxsl
kxçl
kxxl
kxfw
kxsw
kxçw
kxxw
kxmw
kxnw
kxŋw
mpp
mpt
mpc
mpk
mpf
mps
mpç
mpx
mpm
mpn
mpŋ
mpw
mpl
mpj
mppf
mpts
mpcç
mpkx
mppl
mptl
mpcl
mpkl
mpfl
mpsl
mpçl
mpxl
mpfw
mpsw
mpçw
mpxw
mpmw
mpnw
mpŋw
ntp
ntt
ntc
ntk
ntf
nts
ntç
ntx
ntm
ntn
ntŋ
ntw
ntl
ntj
ntpf
ntts
ntcç
ntkx
ntpl
nttl
ntcl
ntkl
ntfl
ntsl
ntçl
ntxl
ntfw
ntsw
ntçw
ntxw
ntmw
ntnw
ntŋw
ɲcp
ɲct
ɲcc
ɲck
ɲcf
ɲcs
ɲcç
ɲcx
ɲcm
ɲcn
ɲcŋ
ɲcw
ɲcl
ɲcj
ɲcpf
ɲcts
ɲccç
ɲckx
ɲcpl
ɲctl
ɲccl
ɲckl
ɲcfl
ɲcsl
ɲcçl
ɲcxl
ɲcfw
ɲcsw
ɲcçw
ɲcxw
ɲcmw
ɲcnw
ɲcŋw
ŋkp
ŋkt
ŋkc
ŋkk
ŋkf
ŋks
ŋkç
ŋkx
ŋkm
ŋkn
ŋkŋ
ŋkw
ŋkl
ŋkj
ŋkpf
ŋkts
ŋkcç
ŋkkx
ŋkpl
ŋktl
ŋkcl
ŋkkl
ŋkfl
ŋksl
ŋkçl
ŋkxl
ŋkfw
ŋksw
ŋkçw
ŋkxw
ŋkmw
ŋknw
ŋkŋw
mpff
mpfs
mpfç
mpfx
mpfm
mpfn
mpfŋ
mpfw
mpfl
mpfj
mpffl
mpfsl
mpfçl
mpfxl
mpffw
mpfsw
mpfçw
mpfxw
mpfmw
mpfnw
mpfŋw
ntsf
ntss
ntsç
ntsx
ntsm
ntsn
ntsŋ
ntsw
ntsl
ntsj
ntsfl
ntssl
ntsçl
ntsxl
ntsfw
ntssw
ntsçw
ntsxw
ntsmw
ntsnw
ntsŋw
ɲcçf
ɲcçs
ɲcçç
ɲcçx
ɲcçm
ɲcçn
ɲcçŋ
ɲcçw
ɲcçl
ɲcçj
ɲcçfl
ɲcçsl
ɲcççl
ɲcçxl
ɲcçfw
ɲcçsw
ɲcççw
ɲcçxw
ɲcçmw
ɲcçnw
ɲcçŋw
ŋkxf
ŋkxs
ŋkxç
ŋkxx
ŋkxm
ŋkxn
ŋkxŋ
ŋkxw
ŋkxl
ŋkxj
ŋkxfl
ŋkxsl
ŋkxçl
ŋkxxl
ŋkxfw
ŋkxsw
ŋkxçw
ŋkxxw
ŋkxmw
ŋkxnw
ŋkxŋw

[Schiaparelliorbust]

What do you mean by "concat"? If you mean "consonant cluster", then any valid coda cluster followed by any valid onset cluster, except /pf/ and friends followed by a stop or a nasal followed by a non-matching stop. Here's a complete list, if you're curious:

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p
t
c
k
f
s
ç
x
m
n
ŋ
w
l
j
pf
ts
cç
kx
pl
tl
cl
kl
fl
sl
çl
xl
fw
sw
çw
xw
mw
nw
ŋw
pp
pt
pc
pk
pf
ps
pç
px
pm
pn
pŋ
pw
pl
pj
ppf
pts
pcç
pkx
ppl
ptl
pcl
pkl
pfl
psl
pçl
pxl
pfw
psw
pçw
pxw
pmw
pnw
pŋw
tp
tt
tc
tk
tf
ts
tç
tx
tm
tn
tŋ
tw
tl
tj
tpf
tts
tcç
tkx
tpl
ttl
tcl
tkl
tfl
tsl
tçl
txl
tfw
tsw
tçw
txw
tmw
tnw
tŋw
cp
ct
cc
ck
cf
cs
cç
cx
cm
cn
cŋ
cw
cl
cj
cpf
cts
ccç
ckx
cpl
ctl
ccl
ckl
cfl
csl
cçl
cxl
cfw
csw
cçw
cxw
cmw
cnw
cŋw
kp
kt
kc
kk
kf
ks
kç
kx
km
kn
kŋ
kw
kl
kj
kpf
kts
kcç
kkx
kpl
ktl
kcl
kkl
kfl
ksl
kçl
kxl
kfw
ksw
kçw
kxw
kmw
knw
kŋw
fp
ft
fc
fk
ff
fs
fç
fx
fm
fn
fŋ
fw
fl
fj
fpf
fts
fcç
fkx
fpl
ftl
fcl
fkl
ffl
fsl
fçl
fxl
ffw
fsw
fçw
fxw
fmw
fnw
fŋw
sp
st
sc
sk
sf
ss
sç
sx
sm
sn
sŋ
sw
sl
sj
spf
sts
scç
skx
spl
stl
scl
skl
sfl
ssl
sçl
sxl
sfw
ssw
sçw
sxw
smw
snw
sŋw
çp
çt
çc
çk
çf
çs
çç
çx
çm
çn
çŋ
çw
çl
çj
çpf
çts
çcç
çkx
çpl
çtl
çcl
çkl
çfl
çsl
ççl
çxl
çfw
çsw
ççw
çxw
çmw
çnw
çŋw
xp
xt
xc
xk
xf
xs
xç
xx
xm
xn
xŋ
xw
xl
xj
xpf
xts
xcç
xkx
xpl
xtl
xcl
xkl
xfl
xsl
xçl
xxl
xfw
xsw
xçw
xxw
xmw
xnw
xŋw
mp
mf
ms
mç
mx
mm
mn
mŋ
mw
ml
mj
mpf
mpl
mfl
msl
mçl
mxl
mfw
msw
mçw
mxw
mmw
mnw
mŋw
nt
nf
ns
nç
nx
nm
nn
nŋ
nw
nl
nj
nts
ntl
nfl
nsl
nçl
nxl
nfw
nsw
nçw
nxw
nmw
nnw
nŋw
ŋk
ŋf
ŋs
ŋç
ŋx
ŋm
ŋn
ŋŋ
ŋw
ŋl
ŋj
ŋkx
ŋkl
ŋfl
ŋsl
ŋçl
ŋxl
ŋfw
ŋsw
ŋçw
ŋxw
ŋmw
ŋnw
ŋŋw
lp
lt
lc
lk
lf
ls
lç
lx
lm
ln
lŋ
lw
ll
lj
lpf
lts
lcç
lkx
lpl
ltl
lcl
lkl
lfl
lsl
lçl
lxl
lfw
lsw
lçw
lxw
lmw
lnw
lŋw
pff
pfs
pfç
pfx
pfm
pfn
pfŋ
pfw
pfl
pfj
pffl
pfsl
pfçl
pfxl
pffw
pfsw
pfçw
pfxw
pfmw
pfnw
pfŋw
tsf
tss
tsç
tsx
tsm
tsn
tsŋ
tsw
tsl
tsj
tsfl
tssl
tsçl
tsxl
tsfw
tssw
tsçw
tsxw
tsmw
tsnw
tsŋw
cçf
cçs
cçç
cçx
cçm
cçn
cçŋ
cçw
cçl
cçj
cçfl
cçsl
cççl
cçxl
cçfw
cçsw
cççw
cçxw
cçmw
cçnw
cçŋw
kxf
kxs
kxç
kxx
kxm
kxn
kxŋ
kxw
kxl
kxj
kxfl
kxsl
kxçl
kxxl
kxfw
kxsw
kxçw
kxxw
kxmw
kxnw
kxŋw
mpp
mpt
mpc
mpk
mpf
mps
mpç
mpx
mpm
mpn
mpŋ
mpw
mpl
mpj
mppf
mpts
mpcç
mpkx
mppl
mptl
mpcl
mpkl
mpfl
mpsl
mpçl
mpxl
mpfw
mpsw
mpçw
mpxw
mpmw
mpnw
mpŋw
ntp
ntt
ntc
ntk
ntf
nts
ntç
ntx
ntm
ntn
ntŋ
ntw
ntl
ntj
ntpf
ntts
ntcç
ntkx
ntpl
nttl
ntcl
ntkl
ntfl
ntsl
ntçl
ntxl
ntfw
ntsw
ntçw
ntxw
ntmw
ntnw
ntŋw
ɲcp
ɲct
ɲcc
ɲck
ɲcf
ɲcs
ɲcç
ɲcx
ɲcm
ɲcn
ɲcŋ
ɲcw
ɲcl
ɲcj
ɲcpf
ɲcts
ɲccç
ɲckx
ɲcpl
ɲctl
ɲccl
ɲckl
ɲcfl
ɲcsl
ɲcçl
ɲcxl
ɲcfw
ɲcsw
ɲcçw
ɲcxw
ɲcmw
ɲcnw
ɲcŋw
ŋkp
ŋkt
ŋkc
ŋkk
ŋkf
ŋks
ŋkç
ŋkx
ŋkm
ŋkn
ŋkŋ
ŋkw
ŋkl
ŋkj
ŋkpf
ŋkts
ŋkcç
ŋkkx
ŋkpl
ŋktl
ŋkcl
ŋkkl
ŋkfl
ŋksl
ŋkçl
ŋkxl
ŋkfw
ŋksw
ŋkçw
ŋkxw
ŋkmw
ŋknw
ŋkŋw
mpff
mpfs
mpfç
mpfx
mpfm
mpfn
mpfŋ
mpfw
mpfl
mpfj
mpffl
mpfsl
mpfçl
mpfxl
mpffw
mpfsw
mpfçw
mpfxw
mpfmw
mpfnw
mpfŋw
ntsf
ntss
ntsç
ntsx
ntsm
ntsn
ntsŋ
ntsw
ntsl
ntsj
ntsfl
ntssl
ntsçl
ntsxl
ntsfw
ntssw
ntsçw
ntsxw
ntsmw
ntsnw
ntsŋw
ɲcçf
ɲcçs
ɲcçç
ɲcçx
ɲcçm
ɲcçn
ɲcçŋ
ɲcçw
ɲcçl
ɲcçj
ɲcçfl
ɲcçsl
ɲcççl
ɲcçxl
ɲcçfw
ɲcçsw
ɲcççw
ɲcçxw
ɲcçmw
ɲcçnw
ɲcçŋw
ŋkxf
ŋkxs
ŋkxç
ŋkxx
ŋkxm
ŋkxn
ŋkxŋ
ŋkxw
ŋkxl
ŋkxj
ŋkxfl
ŋkxsl
ŋkxçl
ŋkxxl
ŋkxfw
ŋkxsw
ŋkxçw
ŋkxxw
ŋkxmw
ŋkxnw
ŋkxŋw

What is this a complete list of exactly? Sorry, I'm having trouble keeping track. I think concat means concatenation.

[Hunting]

What do you mean by "concat"? If you mean "consonant cluster", then any valid coda cluster followed by any valid onset cluster, except /pf/ and friends followed by a stop or a nasal followed by a non-matching stop. Here's a complete list, if you're curious:

Code: Select all

p
t
c
k
f
s
ç
x
m
n
ŋ
w
l
j
pf
ts
cç
kx
pl
tl
cl
kl
fl
sl
çl
xl
fw
sw
çw
xw
mw
nw
ŋw
pp
pt
pc
pk
pf
ps
pç
px
pm
pn
pŋ
pw
pl
pj
ppf
pts
pcç
pkx
ppl
ptl
pcl
pkl
pfl
psl
pçl
pxl
pfw
psw
pçw
pxw
pmw
pnw
pŋw
tp
tt
tc
tk
tf
ts
tç
tx
tm
tn
tŋ
tw
tl
tj
tpf
tts
tcç
tkx
tpl
ttl
tcl
tkl
tfl
tsl
tçl
txl
tfw
tsw
tçw
txw
tmw
tnw
tŋw
cp
ct
cc
ck
cf
cs
cç
cx
cm
cn
cŋ
cw
cl
cj
cpf
cts
ccç
ckx
cpl
ctl
ccl
ckl
cfl
csl
cçl
cxl
cfw
csw
cçw
cxw
cmw
cnw
cŋw
kp
kt
kc
kk
kf
ks
kç
kx
km
kn
kŋ
kw
kl
kj
kpf
kts
kcç
kkx
kpl
ktl
kcl
kkl
kfl
ksl
kçl
kxl
kfw
ksw
kçw
kxw
kmw
knw
kŋw
fp
ft
fc
fk
ff
fs
fç
fx
fm
fn
fŋ
fw
fl
fj
fpf
fts
fcç
fkx
fpl
ftl
fcl
fkl
ffl
fsl
fçl
fxl
ffw
fsw
fçw
fxw
fmw
fnw
fŋw
sp
st
sc
sk
sf
ss
sç
sx
sm
sn
sŋ
sw
sl
sj
spf
sts
scç
skx
spl
stl
scl
skl
sfl
ssl
sçl
sxl
sfw
ssw
sçw
sxw
smw
snw
sŋw
çp
çt
çc
çk
çf
çs
çç
çx
çm
çn
çŋ
çw
çl
çj
çpf
çts
çcç
çkx
çpl
çtl
çcl
çkl
çfl
çsl
ççl
çxl
çfw
çsw
ççw
çxw
çmw
çnw
çŋw
xp
xt
xc
xk
xf
xs
xç
xx
xm
xn
xŋ
xw
xl
xj
xpf
xts
xcç
xkx
xpl
xtl
xcl
xkl
xfl
xsl
xçl
xxl
xfw
xsw
xçw
xxw
xmw
xnw
xŋw
mp
mf
ms
mç
mx
mm
mn
mŋ
mw
ml
mj
mpf
mpl
mfl
msl
mçl
mxl
mfw
msw
mçw
mxw
mmw
mnw
mŋw
nt
nf
ns
nç
nx
nm
nn
nŋ
nw
nl
nj
nts
ntl
nfl
nsl
nçl
nxl
nfw
nsw
nçw
nxw
nmw
nnw
nŋw
ŋk
ŋf
ŋs
ŋç
ŋx
ŋm
ŋn
ŋŋ
ŋw
ŋl
ŋj
ŋkx
ŋkl
ŋfl
ŋsl
ŋçl
ŋxl
ŋfw
ŋsw
ŋçw
ŋxw
ŋmw
ŋnw
ŋŋw
lp
lt
lc
lk
lf
ls
lç
lx
lm
ln
lŋ
lw
ll
lj
lpf
lts
lcç
lkx
lpl
ltl
lcl
lkl
lfl
lsl
lçl
lxl
lfw
lsw
lçw
lxw
lmw
lnw
lŋw
pff
pfs
pfç
pfx
pfm
pfn
pfŋ
pfw
pfl
pfj
pffl
pfsl
pfçl
pfxl
pffw
pfsw
pfçw
pfxw
pfmw
pfnw
pfŋw
tsf
tss
tsç
tsx
tsm
tsn
tsŋ
tsw
tsl
tsj
tsfl
tssl
tsçl
tsxl
tsfw
tssw
tsçw
tsxw
tsmw
tsnw
tsŋw
cçf
cçs
cçç
cçx
cçm
cçn
cçŋ
cçw
cçl
cçj
cçfl
cçsl
cççl
cçxl
cçfw
cçsw
cççw
cçxw
cçmw
cçnw
cçŋw
kxf
kxs
kxç
kxx
kxm
kxn
kxŋ
kxw
kxl
kxj
kxfl
kxsl
kxçl
kxxl
kxfw
kxsw
kxçw
kxxw
kxmw
kxnw
kxŋw
mpp
mpt
mpc
mpk
mpf
mps
mpç
mpx
mpm
mpn
mpŋ
mpw
mpl
mpj
mppf
mpts
mpcç
mpkx
mppl
mptl
mpcl
mpkl
mpfl
mpsl
mpçl
mpxl
mpfw
mpsw
mpçw
mpxw
mpmw
mpnw
mpŋw
ntp
ntt
ntc
ntk
ntf
nts
ntç
ntx
ntm
ntn
ntŋ
ntw
ntl
ntj
ntpf
ntts
ntcç
ntkx
ntpl
nttl
ntcl
ntkl
ntfl
ntsl
ntçl
ntxl
ntfw
ntsw
ntçw
ntxw
ntmw
ntnw
ntŋw
ɲcp
ɲct
ɲcc
ɲck
ɲcf
ɲcs
ɲcç
ɲcx
ɲcm
ɲcn
ɲcŋ
ɲcw
ɲcl
ɲcj
ɲcpf
ɲcts
ɲccç
ɲckx
ɲcpl
ɲctl
ɲccl
ɲckl
ɲcfl
ɲcsl
ɲcçl
ɲcxl
ɲcfw
ɲcsw
ɲcçw
ɲcxw
ɲcmw
ɲcnw
ɲcŋw
ŋkp
ŋkt
ŋkc
ŋkk
ŋkf
ŋks
ŋkç
ŋkx
ŋkm
ŋkn
ŋkŋ
ŋkw
ŋkl
ŋkj
ŋkpf
ŋkts
ŋkcç
ŋkkx
ŋkpl
ŋktl
ŋkcl
ŋkkl
ŋkfl
ŋksl
ŋkçl
ŋkxl
ŋkfw
ŋksw
ŋkçw
ŋkxw
ŋkmw
ŋknw
ŋkŋw
mpff
mpfs
mpfç
mpfx
mpfm
mpfn
mpfŋ
mpfw
mpfl
mpfj
mpffl
mpfsl
mpfçl
mpfxl
mpffw
mpfsw
mpfçw
mpfxw
mpfmw
mpfnw
mpfŋw
ntsf
ntss
ntsç
ntsx
ntsm
ntsn
ntsŋ
ntsw
ntsl
ntsj
ntsfl
ntssl
ntsçl
ntsxl
ntsfw
ntssw
ntsçw
ntsxw
ntsmw
ntsnw
ntsŋw
ɲcçf
ɲcçs
ɲcçç
ɲcçx
ɲcçm
ɲcçn
ɲcçŋ
ɲcçw
ɲcçl
ɲcçj
ɲcçfl
ɲcçsl
ɲcççl
ɲcçxl
ɲcçfw
ɲcçsw
ɲcççw
ɲcçxw
ɲcçmw
ɲcçnw
ɲcçŋw
ŋkxf
ŋkxs
ŋkxç
ŋkxx
ŋkxm
ŋkxn
ŋkxŋ
ŋkxw
ŋkxl
ŋkxj
ŋkxfl
ŋkxsl
ŋkxçl
ŋkxxl
ŋkxfw
ŋkxsw
ŋkxçw
ŋkxxw
ŋkxmw
ŋkxnw
ŋkxŋw

What is this a complete list of exactly? Sorry, I'm having trouble keeping track. I think concat means concatenation

Yes, I mean concatenation.

[fluffykitty]

Yes, I mean concatenation.

I'm still not sure what that's supposed to mean in that context.

Anyway, reposting the complete description of the current phonology/phonotactics/orthography (AFAICT):
Sounds are /aeiouy/ /ptck/ /fsçx/ /mnŋ/ /lwj/. Legal diphthongs are /ai/ /ei/ /oi/ /au/ /eu/.
/ŋ/ is written as <ng> when not followed by /k/ and <n> otherwise. /ç/ is written with <h>, and everything else is written with its IPA character.
Syllable onsets can be:

• Any single consonant
• Any affricate
• Stop or fricative followed by /l/
• Fricative or nasal followed by /w/

Syllable codas can be:

• Any single consonant other than /w/ or /j/
• Nasal followed by matching stop or fricative (this can produce [ɲ] but only non-contrastively)

Restrictions on inter-syllable clusters:

• Affricates cannot be followed by stops
• Nasals followed by stops must match the stop ([ɲ] appears again)

Syllable nuclei can be any vowel or diphthong.
Does everyone support this? Other possible ideas are allowing (potentially non-matching) fricative+stop clusters in the coda as well, and permitting /l/ as a syllable nucleus.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Anyway, reposting the complete description of the current phonology/phonotactics/orthography (AFAICT):
Sounds are /aeiouy/ /ptck/ /fsçx/ /mnŋ/ /lwj/. Legal diphthongs are /ai/ /ei/ /oi/ /au/ /eu/.
/ŋ/ is written as <ng> when not followed by /k/ and <n> otherwise. /ç/ is written with <h>, and everything else is written with its IPA character.
Syllable onsets can be:

• Any single consonant
• Any affricate
• Stop or fricative followed by /l/
• Fricative or nasal followed by /w/

Syllable codas can be:

• Any single consonant other than /w/ or /j/
• Nasal followed by matching stop or fricative (this can produce [ɲ] but only non-contrastively)

What do you mean by matching stop and non-contrastively? I don't see anything called stop on the Wikipedia pulmonic consonant chart.

Restrictions on inter-syllable clusters:

• Affricates cannot be followed by stops
• Nasals followed by stops must match the stop ([ɲ] appears again)

Syllable nuclei can be any vowel or diphthong.
Does everyone support this? Other possible ideas are allowing (potentially non-matching) fricative+stop clusters in the coda as well, and permitting /l/ as a syllable nucleus.

What do you mean by inter-syllable cluster? Can you please give an example?

Also, are we sure we aren't going to have any rhotics? I'm not insisting on them or anything, just making sure. Also, should we have /ʃ/, /t̠ʃ/, /ʒ/, or /d̠ʒ/?

[fluffykitty]

What do you mean by matching stop and non-contrastively? I don't see anything called stop on the Wikipedia pulmonic consonant chart.

Matching=homorganic (/mp/ /nt/ /ɲc/ /ŋg/) and stop=plosive.

What do you mean by inter-syllable cluster? Can you please give an example?

Also, are we sure we aren't going to have any rhotics? I'm not insisting on them or anything, just making sure. Also, should we have /ʃ/, /t̠ʃ/,/dʒ/, or /d̠ʒ/?

By inter-syllable cluster I mean a cluster involving a coda and an onset (eg "a*nt*i"), and I didn't include a rhotic in my proposal because there's a lot of them and I didn't want to choose. I don't think a constrastive postalveolar stop would be a good idea, but /ʃ/ should work. The only problems with that are that it might mess up the sandhi system (although that might already have problems with the lack of phonemic /ɲ/) and that we don't have a Latin letter for it (<q> is free, but that would probably look really weird).