Let's create a language!

[BokaBB]

wzchem5's work is probably not too suitable for a modern language (it sounds like caveman's language).
I would like SVO order.
The rest others should decide. At the end,I want this to be a combined project where everyone has left something.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

This is intended. The pronounciation <-> meaning mapping is to a large extent arbitrary, but pronounciations that do mimic natural sounds related to the meaning are slightly better than those that do not. So a rational approach would be to maximize the resemblance between the pronounciation and a natural sound that is related to its meaning.

Some language evolution happened,however.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Ok then
think = resheo
and wzkchem5 we're both on Mars!

[BokaBB]

Rig-Shine
Rigeo-infinitive
Rigen-present tense
Be rigeo-past tense
Be-was,were
Rigao-future tense
Mi rigeo-potential
Mi-would
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[wzkchem5]

Ok then
think = resheo
and wzkchem5 we're both on Mars!

Greetings, my Martian friend!

[Moosey]

ok but seriously we need to figure out what our phonetics, orthography, and phonotactics are

[Saka]

Holy cruds, this thread has 3 pages already?

I think we should define the phonotactics and allowed diphthongs as well.
It looks to be (C)(C)V(C)(C) so far, I think...

as for diphthongs, I cant be bothered right now to list all used so far... maybe just allow all? And what's the phonemic inventory and orthography???

Ill make a doc tomorrow

[BokaBB]

I don't understand that last about Mars.
Am I too subjective and selfish?I won't be if you think I am.
Rige-Sun
Lem-Earth
Nu-Moon
Ot-Mercury
Sau-Morning Venus
Det-Evening Venus
Vena-Venus collectively
Kom-Mars
Ope-Jupiter
Dab-Saturn
Uran-Uranus
Nept-Neptune
Plut-Pluto
Rigep-Star
-p or - ep - something similar to
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Moosey]

Holy cruds, this thread has 3 pages already?

I think we should define the phonotactics and allowed diphthongs as well.
It looks to be (C)(C)V(C)(C) so far, I think...

as for diphthongs, I cant be bothered right now to list all used so far... maybe just allow all? And what's the phonemic inventory and orthography???

Ill make a doc tomorrow

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please can we figure out phonotactics and phonemes and orthographi

[BokaBB]

Holy cruds, this thread has 3 pages already?

I think we should define the phonotactics and allowed diphthongs as well.
It looks to be (C)(C)V(C)(C) so far, I think...

as for diphthongs, I cant be bothered right now to list all used so far... maybe just allow all? And what's the phonemic inventory and orthography???

Ill make a doc tomorrow

We used no diphtongs so far.
Can you contribute some vocabulary,please?
Me and my friend are almost constantly active and the language quickly grew.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Moosey]

Can you contribute some vocabulary,please?

This project won't work unless we figure out phonemes, orthography, phonotactics, and so forth before making up a bunch of vocabulary.

[BokaBB]

Can you contribute some vocabulary,please?

This project won't work unless we figure out phonemes, orthography, phonotactics, and so forth before making up a bunch of vocabulary.

Reshen.
Resheo-to understand
Resh-thought,also brain
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Can you contribute some vocabulary,please?

This project won't work unless we figure out phonemes, orthography, phonotactics, and so forth before making up a bunch of vocabulary.

Ok so how should we make long vowels?

[BokaBB]

I don't think we need short and long vowels since we already made words without long/short difference.
I am not sure about the additional letters.
The orthography is clear I think.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Ok then
think = resheo
and wzkchem5 we're both on Mars!

Wait I'd said that -ad makes a verb out of a noun so to think is reshadeo.
Edit: I don't know how we missed this but how are we supposed to make stuff plural?

[BokaBB]

Ok then
think = resheo
and wzkchem5 we're both on Mars!

Wait I'd said that -ad makes a verb out of a noun so to think is reshadeo.

We replaced -ad with -eo. I don't think -ad sounds pleasant and I want the language to sound so.
Am I subjective?I won't be anymore if I am.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Ok then
think = resheo
and wzkchem5 we're both on Mars!

Wait I'd said that -ad makes a verb out of a noun so to think is reshadeo.

We replaced -ad with -eo. I don't think -ad sounds pleasant and I want the language to sound so.
Am I subjective?I won't be anymore if I am.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I'm okay with -eo being infinitive but I still think we need a suffix to make a noun a verb.

[Moosey]

The orthography is clear I think.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

????????????? You don't even define pronunciation, so the orthography is completely unclear

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Hey Moosey yeah we do need to figure out phonemes, orthography, phonotactics. Let me ask you something though: what number base should the language use?

[BokaBB]

Wait I'd said that -ad makes a verb out of a noun so to think is reshadeo.

We replaced -ad with -eo. I don't think -ad sounds pleasant and I want the language to sound so.
Am I subjective?I won't be anymore if I am.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I'm okay with -eo being infinitive but I still think we need a suffix to make a noun a verb.

-eo does the same job.
I will allow you to create the plural suffix.Please try to have continuity with the way the language sounds.
Everything is read phonetically,for an example a is not read ey but a.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I will allow you to create the plural suffix.Please try to have continuity with the way the language sounds.
Everything is read phonetically,for an example a is not read ey but a.

-ral for plural

What about ay? Is there any way to get a long a or any other long vowel?

[BokaBB]

I will allow you to create the plural suffix.Please try to have continuity with the way the language sounds.
Everything is read phonetically,for an example a is not read ey but a.

-ral for plural

What about ay? Is there any way to get a long a or any other long vowel?

We already added a lot of vocabulary and that may be tricky to change all words to variants with long or short vowels. Making long vowels rare is also not a good idea I think.
Do you accept -al as a suffix if the word ends with a consonant?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

So
long a = ey
long e = iy
long i = ay
long o = ow
long u = yuw

[BokaBB]

So
long a = ey
long e = iy
long i = ay
long o = ow
long u = yuw

No,you misunderstood. I will think if we will apply these.
A is pronounced as IPA a.
I as IPA i (English I is IPA a).
And so on.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

Complete orthography(I will think about some diphtongs,it will take time):
A:as a in a(article)
B:as b in beagle
C:as c in cinnabar
D:as d in donkey
E:as e in elephant
F:as f in flute
G:as g in gold
H:as h in hat
I:as i in Italy
J:absent
K:as k in king
L:as l in lion
M:as m in Mars
N:as n in now
Ng:as ng in gong
O:as o in orphan
P:as p in peak
Q: absent
R:as r in road
S:as s in Sun
Sh:as sh in shot
T:as t in time
U:as u in ukulele
V:as v in vase
W:absent
X:absent
Y:as y in you
Z:as z in zone
Zh:as Serbian Ж or as zh in Zhang(might remove it though)
This is how I planned and what is called phonetical. I might change something. Feel free to propose changes.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Complete orthography(I will think about some diphtongs,it will take time):
A:as a in a(article)
B:as b in beagle
C:as c in cinnabar
D:as d in donkey
E:as e in elephant
F:as f in flute
G:as g in gold
H:as h in hat
I:as i in Italy
J:absent
K:as k in king
L:as l in lion
M:as m in Mars
N:as n in now
Ng:as ng in gong
O:as o in orphan
P:as p in peak
Q: absent
R:as r in road
S:as s in Sun
Sh:as sh in shot
T:as t in time
U:as u in ukulele
V:as v in vase
W:absent
X:absent
Y:as y in you
Z:as z in zone
Zh:as Serbian Ж or as zh in Zhang(might remove it though)
This is how I planned and what is called phonetical. I might change something. Feel free to propose changes.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Some questions:

Why are some sounds omitted?
Is the last sound ch as in cheese?
Other than diphthongs are these the only sounds?
Is c always pronounced like in cinnbar?
Is there a way to make a short u?

Also, I think the diphthongs should be au, ai, oi, ao, oa, and ei.